"More than 2 million Serbs in region"

It seems like Sreckovic has abandon Serbs in Kosova.
As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.
(Kosova-USA, 11 February 2011 10:26)

No, Kosovo is Serbia according to UN1244, and this is about Serbians living outside Serbia, so Kosovo Serbs are not included. About the Serbs in Albania your number seems to be more close to the truth than 30,000: Some sources in Wikipedia estimate their number "a few hundreds".

"As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.
(Kosova-USA, 11 February 2011 10:26)"

You can't blame the Albanian Serbs. They are probably scared stiff about keeping their body organs intact!

It seems like Sreckovic has abandon Serbs in Kosova.

As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.

K-USA,

I'm sure you know how to count from an early age, but to Albania I somewhat doubt you've visited in detail, or know much about. If this census is accurate in Albania, you will see the Greeks, Macedonians, Serbs/Montenegrins Albanized Romas and others eating up a far larger chunk of the demographic pie than the 2% claimed by Tyranny (aka Tirana). I would not be surprised to see at least 10-15% Greek and another 5-7% other minorities this time. Further the religious mix, Islam, Catholic and Orthodox - who do you think is the Orthodox mix - shielded under the Albanian Orthodox Church? Greeks mostly. First hand confirmation also comes from the Albanian Greek diaspora here in Toronto, who I know quite a few of. This census will be watched closely to see accuracy. The Tirana regime is afraid of this, because they know more rights will be demanded by minorities - culturual, political, religious etc., which will weaken the state.

I think there are alot more Serbs in Bosnia than 1.1 Mil.

CG & Cro has well over 200k

These figures don’t add up.

I can’t find figures for Serbs in Bulgaria, but they probably number fewer than 10,000. Wiki numbers Serbs in Hungary at 7,350. If we add these figures to those in the article, then we have 1.6 million Serbs who live in countries neighbouring Serbia.

The total given in the article is 2.12 million, which is 512,000 more than my calculation.

I suspect that these numbers have been manipulated. The number of Serbs in Republika Srpska (Bosnia) is probably far greater than 1.1 million. Unfortunately we are not allowed to know the population of Serbs, Croats and Moslems in Bosnia because the Moslems refuse to allow the Census to ask this question.

In Bosnia, political roles and government grants are distributed according to population statistics. In the last Census held in 1991, Moslems numbered 44% of Bosnia’s population. Since 1991, hundreds of thousands of Moslems have left the country; over the same period hundreds of thousands of Serbs, who were expelled from Croatia, have settled in Bosnia. Bosnian Croats have also left Bosnia en-mass. The population balance in Bosnia has changes radically since 1991.

Were a new Census undertaken today, then the Bosnian Serbs would probably number 1.6 million and account for the single largest population in the country, perhaps even an overall majority.

"I'm sure you know how to count from an early age, but to Albania I somewhat doubt you've visited in detail, or know much about. If this census is accurate in Albania, you will see the Greeks, Macedonians, Serbs/Montenegrins Albanized Romas and others eating up a far larger chunk of the demographic pie than the 2% claimed by Tyranny (aka Tirana). I would not be surprised to see at least 10-15% Greek and another 5-7% other minorities this time. Further the religious mix, Islam, Catholic and Orthodox - who do you think is the Orthodox mix - shielded under the Albanian Orthodox Church? Greeks mostly. First hand confirmation also comes from the Albanian Greek diaspora here in Toronto, who I know quite a few of. This census will be watched closely to see accuracy. The Tirana regime is afraid of this, because they know more rights will be demanded by minorities - culturual, political, religious etc., which will weaken the state."


Man, we will give you how many minorities as you and Greeks want, especially when your predictions come from Greek diaspora in Canada. We had recently a dispute with a kind of Greek untranationalist consul who declared that all minorities in a region in Albania are Greeks, including the Macedonians living there :). Not to forget so called "greeks of pensions" who have declared themselves Greeks based on docs issued by churches in Greece. Of course we are watching carefully every move.....

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> [link]#facts
(Zoran, 11 February 2011 12:45)

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda? Good enough for you now?

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/5050584.stm#facts

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> [link]#facts
(Zoran, 11 February 2011 12:45)

To be exact:
"Population: 9.9 million (UN, 2010, includes Kosovo; UN mission estimates Kosovo population as circa 2 million)"

It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.

bottom line is that serbs have a huge footprint in the balkans unlike any other. if we stay informed and unified we will be a special political force in the balkans for many years to come.

There are apparently over 70,000 Serbs in Britain according to the "Serbian Council of Great Britain".
http://www.serbiancouncil.org.uk/

I wonder if this figure includes Aleksandar Kolarov, Branislav Ivanovic, Nenad Milijas, Nemanja Vidic, Milan Jovanovic and Nikola Zigic? haha

Endri,

Usually when a Consul makes a comment like that there is a true reason to, especially from Greece, who have every right to morally be attached to their fith and kin in Epirus.

It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.
(Top, 11 February 2011 13:44)
--


Not according to your fellow serb Darko. You guys have to make up your mind once and for all.

Regj. Popullsisë, 1 Prill 2011
48 Ditë 17 Orë 14 Minuta 10 Sekonda

Kosovo's Census, 1 April 2011

48 Days, 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 10 seconds




That's how long it is until the census begins (as I write this comment) in Kosovo.


This article and this "official" is all kinds of FAIL!





Thanks,

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> [link]#facts
(Zoran, 11 February 2011 12:45)

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda? Good enough for you now?
(Ian, UK, 11 February 2011 19:57)


Some people have no shame on contradicting themselvs day in, day out.

"Usually when a Consul makes a comment like that there is a true reason to, especially from Greece, who have every right to morally be attached to their fith and kin in Epirus."


Shots in the air don't make you more provocative than you are. The next day Greek ambassador in Albania declared that the consul speaks for himself not on behalf of Greek governments. Your comments are void as always.

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda? Good enough for you now?
(Ian, UK, 11 February 2011 19:57)

Still BBC is evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda!

What this has to do with number of Serbs?

The Tirana regime is afraid of this, because they know more rights will be demanded by minorities - culturual, political, religious etc., which will weaken the state.
(Dragan, Toronto, 11 February 2011 14:09)

This is not correct. Tirana is worried that Greece, playing it's sleek card will take advantage of unfavorable economic position of Albanians to make them declare themselves as greeks. Thousand of Albanians have to change their names in Greece to get a job, and other thousands in Albania get a pension from Greece if they simply declare themselves "greeks". Most abuse this declaration, to get a hefty 200-300 euro pension a month.

There is one thing that says it all though. The minority's right political party in Albania, which is led by Greek minority and supported by most other minorities, has never, ever won over 3.5% of total popular vote, in the last 20 yrs, in any shape or form.

If Albanian pop is 15% greeks, and 7-8% other minorities, why they never vote for this party, considering 1) the assumption that they are repressed by Tirana regime, and 2) the strong ehtnic affiliations pattern that we see in the Balkans. Do Hungarians in Serbia vote for Serbian parties en masse, or Serbs in Croatia or Bosnia for non-Serbia parties? Of course not. Why would they do such, in Albania, .... I am sure they do it cuz they feel represed. How laughable.

Endri,

True democracy garners many important tenents, including many freedoms (many that Tirana and Pristina do not enspouse); yours on the contrary is merely a figment of your imagination - a shallow opinion on minorities - one that doesn't carry any intellectual weight or reasoning in a civilized world.

"True democracy garners many important tenents, including many freedoms (many that Tirana and Pristina do not enspouse); yours on the contrary is merely a figment of your imagination - a shallow opinion on minorities - one that doesn't carry any intellectual weight or reasoning in a civilized world."

You lectures about democracy can be useful for your compatriots but not for me or us Albanians. We have no problem with minorities neither have they with us. We are against manipulations and playing dirty games with minority's card such as in case of that consul.

But the way how you twist the words and topic makes you less credible than you are. The point was the position of Greek government and the personal opinion of Greek consul which you took for granted as the stand of Greek government.

The last, are you sure that a Serb can give lectures on democracy!!!! We have read continuously reports here on how satisfied are minorities in Serbia, especially Bosnian and Hungarians. Let alone Albanians which thanks to good can not be affected anymore by your "marvelous" democracy. Words are cheep, so are yours.

Hopefully people in Macedonia finally come out and support their roots by acknowledging it via the census. True figures are between 100,000 - 150,000 Serbs in Macedonia.

so you have 2 mil serbs in diaspora better say in regional countries which you have to protect them... by all meens

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda?...
(Ian, UK, 11 February 2011 19:57)
--
You are right in your thoughts Ian but it doesn't mean they get everything wrong.
==
It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.
(Top, 11 February 2011 13:44)
--
I was referring to this statement in the article:
--
Srećković specified that the ministry's estimates show that about 2,120,000 Serbs, which is more than a quarter of Serbia's population, live in regional countries...
--
If Serbia's population is 10 million then 2.12 million is not more than a quarter of Serbia's population as state. It is less than a quarter and more than a fifth.

Endri,

You and your trolls daily inspire us all here with your lack of intelligence, arrogrance and extreme ignorance. As for Serbian minorities - count me as a mostly Serbian and mixtures of Vojvodina Slovak and Hungarian. Regarding treatment of minorities, which you have no clue about - look at the Vojvodina system more in depth and go visit there - rather than rag and whine conmtinuously about things you have no knowledge of. Have you ever been to Vojvodina? I doubt it. Well maybe looking at the services available everywhere in Serbian, Hungarian, Slovak, Rusyn and Romanian is one example. Official documents and the constitution. How about the churches. There are tonnes of Catholic, Orthodox, Reformed, Lutheran, Evangelical etc. How about schools in their native languages ie. Hungarian, Slovak, Romanian etc. How about the vast Radio / TV programs and newsprints in minority languages...check Radio Televizija Vojvodina for starters. How about the folklore dances etc. Then again, in the former YU census and the Serbian census - Serbia - always counted their peoples under what they declared themselves to be.
Then lets talk about minorities in power ie. Bojan Pajtic is half Serb/Hungarian and Rasim Ljajic is Bosniak. Give me some shinning examples of democracy in Tirana and Pristina as well, don't want to steal the red carpet from under your golden feet. Personally though, I have never seen such wide spread attempts at assimilation anywhere, as in the case of Albania. So tell us all about the Tirana and Pristina regimes that you know so much about and their vast levels of accomodations they give to their minorities within the democratic principles that they shower themselves under the cloak of. Give us shinning examples of intelligence please, and stop humouring us with drivel.

"Shots in the air don't make you more provocative than you are. The next day Greek ambassador in Albania declared that the consul speaks for himself not on behalf of Greek governments. Your comments are void as always.
(Endri, 12 February 2011 18:57)"

This is from Greek Foreign Ministry


http://www.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/100211_AH1659.htm

Ms. Bibe: Mr. Spokesman, I think you will have learned of the statements of the Greek Consul in Korce. I would like to learn whether Athens agrees with these statements are not. What has been done to defuse this crisis?

Mr. Delavekouras: Essentially, we have monitored a very large debate in the Albanian press regarding certain statements. Because I don’t want there to be any misunderstandings, and we need to be clear on this and Greece is clear on this: we see the Greek national minority in Albania as a bridge of friendship between the two peoples. Full respect for their rights and the implementation of the relevant commitments and obligations of the Albanian side are a barometer in our bilateral relations as well as a criterion for Albania’s European course.

The issues being faced by the Greek national minority are dealt with by our country in modern terms of the protection of minority rights and based on the relevant international obligations and commitments of Albania – particularly within the framework of Albania’s European course. This includes respect for and protection of the rights of the minority throughout Albanian territory and not exclusively in areas that have been designated as minority zones.

We see the census that is scheduled to be carried out this year in Albania as a tool, first of all, for the Albanian state itself; an invaluable tool. The census needs to be carried out in accordance with international standards, both as regards the drawing up of the questionnaire as well as how the census itself is carried out, as a necessary step towards comprehensive political protection of the rights of minorities. In parallel, I repeat, it is also an obligation Albania has to the European Union, on its European course.

Greek-Albanian relations are of strategic importance to us. They are relations in which we have proved that we will stand by Albania as it takes steps towards the European Union, towards this vital aspiration of the Albanian people that Greece supports. We shouldn’t look for opportunities to blow situations out of proportion in order to create an impression. Our cooperation is ongoing. The talks, the meetings and the dialogue is ongoing, and that is how it should be seen. It is important that the Albanian side, too, perceive the Greek national minority as the bridge of friendship and cooperation that I mentioned.

It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.
(Top, 11 February 2011 13:44)
Still wonder why a non-Serb population would want independence from Serbia?? I think that statement can sum up most everything that dominates this forum.

Serbia has a population of 9 157 000 according to some latest estimates:
Central Serbia: 5 350 000
Vojvodina: 1 953 000
Kosovo - Metohija: 1 850 000
RS: 9 157 000

Major cities: Estimate 2010

Belgrade: 1 670 000
Novi Sad: 382 000
Pristina: 370 000
Nis: 260 000
Kragujevac:180 000
Subotica: 120 000
Leskovac: 110 000
Prizren: 110 000
Kraljevo: 100 000

“You and your trolls daily inspire us all here with your lack of intelligence, arrogance and extreme ignorance. “

I have always believed that your fake conscience of superiority has been the source of many problems in Balkans in addition to the problems for yourself. I don’t know any significant source which has labeled Serbs with bright intelligence or people without arrogance and ignorance. I don’t care whether you have any or nothing of them. Your attitude towards other people is very well known in terms of high level of superiority against underdeveloped nations of Balkans. You call lack of intelligence when we put the finger there where it hurt most or extreme ignorance when I mention a real situation which is not promoted by your Serb -state country.

As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.
(Kosova-USA, 11 February 2011 10:26)

I think they have in there list Sali Berishovic, his wife Liri(Slobodanka) Berishovic, Ilir Metovic and co.

It seems like Sreckovic has abandon Serbs in Kosova.

As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/5050584.stm#facts

It seems like Sreckovic has abandon Serbs in Kosova.
As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.
(Kosova-USA, 11 February 2011 10:26)

No, Kosovo is Serbia according to UN1244, and this is about Serbians living outside Serbia, so Kosovo Serbs are not included. About the Serbs in Albania your number seems to be more close to the truth than 30,000: Some sources in Wikipedia estimate their number "a few hundreds".

K-USA,

I'm sure you know how to count from an early age, but to Albania I somewhat doubt you've visited in detail, or know much about. If this census is accurate in Albania, you will see the Greeks, Macedonians, Serbs/Montenegrins Albanized Romas and others eating up a far larger chunk of the demographic pie than the 2% claimed by Tyranny (aka Tirana). I would not be surprised to see at least 10-15% Greek and another 5-7% other minorities this time. Further the religious mix, Islam, Catholic and Orthodox - who do you think is the Orthodox mix - shielded under the Albanian Orthodox Church? Greeks mostly. First hand confirmation also comes from the Albanian Greek diaspora here in Toronto, who I know quite a few of. This census will be watched closely to see accuracy. The Tirana regime is afraid of this, because they know more rights will be demanded by minorities - culturual, political, religious etc., which will weaken the state.

These figures don’t add up.

I can’t find figures for Serbs in Bulgaria, but they probably number fewer than 10,000. Wiki numbers Serbs in Hungary at 7,350. If we add these figures to those in the article, then we have 1.6 million Serbs who live in countries neighbouring Serbia.

The total given in the article is 2.12 million, which is 512,000 more than my calculation.

I suspect that these numbers have been manipulated. The number of Serbs in Republika Srpska (Bosnia) is probably far greater than 1.1 million. Unfortunately we are not allowed to know the population of Serbs, Croats and Moslems in Bosnia because the Moslems refuse to allow the Census to ask this question.

In Bosnia, political roles and government grants are distributed according to population statistics. In the last Census held in 1991, Moslems numbered 44% of Bosnia’s population. Since 1991, hundreds of thousands of Moslems have left the country; over the same period hundreds of thousands of Serbs, who were expelled from Croatia, have settled in Bosnia. Bosnian Croats have also left Bosnia en-mass. The population balance in Bosnia has changes radically since 1991.

Were a new Census undertaken today, then the Bosnian Serbs would probably number 1.6 million and account for the single largest population in the country, perhaps even an overall majority.

"I'm sure you know how to count from an early age, but to Albania I somewhat doubt you've visited in detail, or know much about. If this census is accurate in Albania, you will see the Greeks, Macedonians, Serbs/Montenegrins Albanized Romas and others eating up a far larger chunk of the demographic pie than the 2% claimed by Tyranny (aka Tirana). I would not be surprised to see at least 10-15% Greek and another 5-7% other minorities this time. Further the religious mix, Islam, Catholic and Orthodox - who do you think is the Orthodox mix - shielded under the Albanian Orthodox Church? Greeks mostly. First hand confirmation also comes from the Albanian Greek diaspora here in Toronto, who I know quite a few of. This census will be watched closely to see accuracy. The Tirana regime is afraid of this, because they know more rights will be demanded by minorities - culturual, political, religious etc., which will weaken the state."


Man, we will give you how many minorities as you and Greeks want, especially when your predictions come from Greek diaspora in Canada. We had recently a dispute with a kind of Greek untranationalist consul who declared that all minorities in a region in Albania are Greeks, including the Macedonians living there :). Not to forget so called "greeks of pensions" who have declared themselves Greeks based on docs issued by churches in Greece. Of course we are watching carefully every move.....

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> [link]#facts
(Zoran, 11 February 2011 12:45)

To be exact:
"Population: 9.9 million (UN, 2010, includes Kosovo; UN mission estimates Kosovo population as circa 2 million)"

It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.

I think there are alot more Serbs in Bosnia than 1.1 Mil.

CG & Cro has well over 200k

Regj. Popullsisë, 1 Prill 2011
48 Ditë 17 Orë 14 Minuta 10 Sekonda

Kosovo's Census, 1 April 2011

48 Days, 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 10 seconds




That's how long it is until the census begins (as I write this comment) in Kosovo.


This article and this "official" is all kinds of FAIL!





Thanks,

so you have 2 mil serbs in diaspora better say in regional countries which you have to protect them... by all meens

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> [link]#facts
(Zoran, 11 February 2011 12:45)

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda? Good enough for you now?
(Ian, UK, 11 February 2011 19:57)


Some people have no shame on contradicting themselvs day in, day out.

It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.
(Top, 11 February 2011 13:44)
--


Not according to your fellow serb Darko. You guys have to make up your mind once and for all.

bottom line is that serbs have a huge footprint in the balkans unlike any other. if we stay informed and unified we will be a special political force in the balkans for many years to come.

Serbia has a population of about 10 million people. Source BBC/UN -> [link]#facts
(Zoran, 11 February 2011 12:45)

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda? Good enough for you now?

"As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.
(Kosova-USA, 11 February 2011 10:26)"

You can't blame the Albanian Serbs. They are probably scared stiff about keeping their body organs intact!

The Tirana regime is afraid of this, because they know more rights will be demanded by minorities - culturual, political, religious etc., which will weaken the state.
(Dragan, Toronto, 11 February 2011 14:09)

This is not correct. Tirana is worried that Greece, playing it's sleek card will take advantage of unfavorable economic position of Albanians to make them declare themselves as greeks. Thousand of Albanians have to change their names in Greece to get a job, and other thousands in Albania get a pension from Greece if they simply declare themselves "greeks". Most abuse this declaration, to get a hefty 200-300 euro pension a month.

There is one thing that says it all though. The minority's right political party in Albania, which is led by Greek minority and supported by most other minorities, has never, ever won over 3.5% of total popular vote, in the last 20 yrs, in any shape or form.

If Albanian pop is 15% greeks, and 7-8% other minorities, why they never vote for this party, considering 1) the assumption that they are repressed by Tirana regime, and 2) the strong ehtnic affiliations pattern that we see in the Balkans. Do Hungarians in Serbia vote for Serbian parties en masse, or Serbs in Croatia or Bosnia for non-Serbia parties? Of course not. Why would they do such, in Albania, .... I am sure they do it cuz they feel represed. How laughable.

There are apparently over 70,000 Serbs in Britain according to the "Serbian Council of Great Britain".
http://www.serbiancouncil.org.uk/

I wonder if this figure includes Aleksandar Kolarov, Branislav Ivanovic, Nenad Milijas, Nemanja Vidic, Milan Jovanovic and Nikola Zigic? haha

"Usually when a Consul makes a comment like that there is a true reason to, especially from Greece, who have every right to morally be attached to their fith and kin in Epirus."


Shots in the air don't make you more provocative than you are. The next day Greek ambassador in Albania declared that the consul speaks for himself not on behalf of Greek governments. Your comments are void as always.

As for 30 G Serbs in Albania, he must be kidding himself with that figure. Lucky if he finds 100 Albanian Serbs claiming their Serbian heritage.
(Kosova-USA, 11 February 2011 10:26)

I think they have in there list Sali Berishovic, his wife Liri(Slobodanka) Berishovic, Ilir Metovic and co.

Endri,

True democracy garners many important tenents, including many freedoms (many that Tirana and Pristina do not enspouse); yours on the contrary is merely a figment of your imagination - a shallow opinion on minorities - one that doesn't carry any intellectual weight or reasoning in a civilized world.

"True democracy garners many important tenents, including many freedoms (many that Tirana and Pristina do not enspouse); yours on the contrary is merely a figment of your imagination - a shallow opinion on minorities - one that doesn't carry any intellectual weight or reasoning in a civilized world."

You lectures about democracy can be useful for your compatriots but not for me or us Albanians. We have no problem with minorities neither have they with us. We are against manipulations and playing dirty games with minority's card such as in case of that consul.

But the way how you twist the words and topic makes you less credible than you are. The point was the position of Greek government and the personal opinion of Greek consul which you took for granted as the stand of Greek government.

The last, are you sure that a Serb can give lectures on democracy!!!! We have read continuously reports here on how satisfied are minorities in Serbia, especially Bosnian and Hungarians. Let alone Albanians which thanks to good can not be affected anymore by your "marvelous" democracy. Words are cheep, so are yours.

Hopefully people in Macedonia finally come out and support their roots by acknowledging it via the census. True figures are between 100,000 - 150,000 Serbs in Macedonia.

It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.
(Top, 11 February 2011 13:44)
Still wonder why a non-Serb population would want independence from Serbia?? I think that statement can sum up most everything that dominates this forum.

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda?...
(Ian, UK, 11 February 2011 19:57)
--
You are right in your thoughts Ian but it doesn't mean they get everything wrong.
==
It's about Serbs, not Serbian citizens.
(Top, 11 February 2011 13:44)
--
I was referring to this statement in the article:
--
Srećković specified that the ministry's estimates show that about 2,120,000 Serbs, which is more than a quarter of Serbia's population, live in regional countries...
--
If Serbia's population is 10 million then 2.12 million is not more than a quarter of Serbia's population as state. It is less than a quarter and more than a fifth.

Serbia has a population of 9 157 000 according to some latest estimates:
Central Serbia: 5 350 000
Vojvodina: 1 953 000
Kosovo - Metohija: 1 850 000
RS: 9 157 000

Major cities: Estimate 2010

Belgrade: 1 670 000
Novi Sad: 382 000
Pristina: 370 000
Nis: 260 000
Kragujevac:180 000
Subotica: 120 000
Leskovac: 110 000
Prizren: 110 000
Kraljevo: 100 000

Endri,

Usually when a Consul makes a comment like that there is a true reason to, especially from Greece, who have every right to morally be attached to their fith and kin in Epirus.

I thought the BBC was evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda? Good enough for you now?
(Ian, UK, 11 February 2011 19:57)

Still BBC is evil, biased and full of Western Propaganda!

What this has to do with number of Serbs?

Endri,

You and your trolls daily inspire us all here with your lack of intelligence, arrogrance and extreme ignorance. As for Serbian minorities - count me as a mostly Serbian and mixtures of Vojvodina Slovak and Hungarian. Regarding treatment of minorities, which you have no clue about - look at the Vojvodina system more in depth and go visit there - rather than rag and whine conmtinuously about things you have no knowledge of. Have you ever been to Vojvodina? I doubt it. Well maybe looking at the services available everywhere in Serbian, Hungarian, Slovak, Rusyn and Romanian is one example. Official documents and the constitution. How about the churches. There are tonnes of Catholic, Orthodox, Reformed, Lutheran, Evangelical etc. How about schools in their native languages ie. Hungarian, Slovak, Romanian etc. How about the vast Radio / TV programs and newsprints in minority languages...check Radio Televizija Vojvodina for starters. How about the folklore dances etc. Then again, in the former YU census and the Serbian census - Serbia - always counted their peoples under what they declared themselves to be.
Then lets talk about minorities in power ie. Bojan Pajtic is half Serb/Hungarian and Rasim Ljajic is Bosniak. Give me some shinning examples of democracy in Tirana and Pristina as well, don't want to steal the red carpet from under your golden feet. Personally though, I have never seen such wide spread attempts at assimilation anywhere, as in the case of Albania. So tell us all about the Tirana and Pristina regimes that you know so much about and their vast levels of accomodations they give to their minorities within the democratic principles that they shower themselves under the cloak of. Give us shinning examples of intelligence please, and stop humouring us with drivel.

"Shots in the air don't make you more provocative than you are. The next day Greek ambassador in Albania declared that the consul speaks for himself not on behalf of Greek governments. Your comments are void as always.
(Endri, 12 February 2011 18:57)"

This is from Greek Foreign Ministry


http://www.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/100211_AH1659.htm

Ms. Bibe: Mr. Spokesman, I think you will have learned of the statements of the Greek Consul in Korce. I would like to learn whether Athens agrees with these statements are not. What has been done to defuse this crisis?

Mr. Delavekouras: Essentially, we have monitored a very large debate in the Albanian press regarding certain statements. Because I don’t want there to be any misunderstandings, and we need to be clear on this and Greece is clear on this: we see the Greek national minority in Albania as a bridge of friendship between the two peoples. Full respect for their rights and the implementation of the relevant commitments and obligations of the Albanian side are a barometer in our bilateral relations as well as a criterion for Albania’s European course.

The issues being faced by the Greek national minority are dealt with by our country in modern terms of the protection of minority rights and based on the relevant international obligations and commitments of Albania – particularly within the framework of Albania’s European course. This includes respect for and protection of the rights of the minority throughout Albanian territory and not exclusively in areas that have been designated as minority zones.

We see the census that is scheduled to be carried out this year in Albania as a tool, first of all, for the Albanian state itself; an invaluable tool. The census needs to be carried out in accordance with international standards, both as regards the drawing up of the questionnaire as well as how the census itself is carried out, as a necessary step towards comprehensive political protection of the rights of minorities. In parallel, I repeat, it is also an obligation Albania has to the European Union, on its European course.

Greek-Albanian relations are of strategic importance to us. They are relations in which we have proved that we will stand by Albania as it takes steps towards the European Union, towards this vital aspiration of the Albanian people that Greece supports. We shouldn’t look for opportunities to blow situations out of proportion in order to create an impression. Our cooperation is ongoing. The talks, the meetings and the dialogue is ongoing, and that is how it should be seen. It is important that the Albanian side, too, perceive the Greek national minority as the bridge of friendship and cooperation that I mentioned.

“You and your trolls daily inspire us all here with your lack of intelligence, arrogance and extreme ignorance. “

I have always believed that your fake conscience of superiority has been the source of many problems in Balkans in addition to the problems for yourself. I don’t know any significant source which has labeled Serbs with bright intelligence or people without arrogance and ignorance. I don’t care whether you have any or nothing of them. Your attitude towards other people is very well known in terms of high level of superiority against underdeveloped nations of Balkans. You call lack of intelligence when we put the finger there where it hurt most or extreme ignorance when I mention a real situation which is not promoted by your Serb -state country.