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Friday, 04.02.2011.

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"Independent investigation, no special court"

Interior Minister Ivica Dačić says he commented on the Kosovo organ trafficking during his current visit to the U.S.

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John

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)

There were 5 investigations (ICYT, UMNIK, Serbian War Crimes Prosecutor, BBC, Dick Marty) The ICYT investigation found plenty of evidence that organ trafficking happened (both physical evidence and witeness statements), but no individuals who took part. Del Ponte noted that the Albanian authorities prevented further inquiries into the matter.

The evidence found by the UNMIK investigation was described as "tantalising but inconclusive", and it was left to the local Kosovo Albanian authorities, who are of course, ex KLA's.

The BBC investigation presented many witness statements from both survivors and KLAs.

The ongoing Serbian War Crimes investigation found much evidence proving that Organ trafficking took place, that Hardinaj had a part and that there was someone above him (suspected to be Thaci).

The Marty investigation found the money trail, and that the Drenica group, headed by Hashim Thaci was responsible.

There is also the ongoing EULEX investigation who had preliminary findings only after a week.

doodah

pre 13 godina

They found plenty but some bright spark at Hague decided to destroy it all.
Why are you still pretending you haven't heard about that?
(Peggy, 5 February 2011 10:12)
Don't even try your propaganda bs, You and the world know that "all" the evidence destroyed was photographed and consisted only of some discarded medical supplies found at a dumpsite and provided no proof except to those like yourself who are desperate to believe it.
And to you the fact that there was a 1999 is proof positive that it occurred.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)
=====================

They found plenty but some bright spark at Hague decided to destroy it all.
Why are you still pretending you haven't heard about that?

Predrag

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)


RUBBISH!
What complete and utter BS!

Firstly, the previous investigations did not turn up “Zilch”
They were inconclusive, and were not officially closed!
Secondly, the previous investigations were half hearted to say the very least!
They were stalled by the albanians on EVERY occasion!
At one stage the Talbanians even refused to co-operate at all and
Prevented investigators from entering the country!

They have a history of Organ trafficking and it is totally clear that these crimes were committed!

The sooner Thaci and his murderous cronies are behind bars the better!

John

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)

You just achknowledged that Organ Trafficking took place.

Top

pre 13 godina

I thought you read the link Kate posted?

"Turks, Russians, Moldovans and Kazakhs were allegedly lured to Pristina with false promises of payments for their kidneys."
(Zoran, 4 February 2011 15:14)

But that link was about the Medicus Clinic Organ transplantion crime case, and not the organ harvesting crime case. ???

Top

pre 13 godina

"Now that would be believable that Russia had organized a organ harvesting operation using Serbs, far more believable than the Albanian story. "
(pss, 4 February 2011 13:55)

A drug consumer from, let's say, France has not 'organized' the drug trafficing. Just like organ receivers haven't 'organized' the illegal transplantion crimes. They are consumers. Another thing is that, usually, states don't organizes those crimes. Even in case of Kosovo it hasn't been the state, but a group of criminals. Well, in that special Kosovo case, the gang leaders play politicians, too, which is unusual for normal states.

KU

pre 13 godina

I wonder if mentioning Russia to American diplomats is a wise move from Dacic, after wikileaks showed us what american diplomats think of Russia.

Also, I would not call it "during the Thursday meeting with U.S. officials in Washington". I would call it "over bacon and eggs with U.S. officials in Washington"

The yearly breakfast of champions in Washington is so misused by our little politicians in their home countries. Two years ago it was Berisha's turn to boast about his big meetings:

http://www.km.gov.al/foto/1233859000-lajmBiden.jpg

People in Albania reacted to that picture by noticing the contrast between Berisha's yellow teeth and Biden's super-shiny teeth. They were ashamed. At which point, Berisha's side published naked pictures of the leader of the opposition in a nudist beach in France. Must say, politics in Albania is less boring than Serbia. It is also a shame Dacic is all alone and far away in that picture, not hugging anybody important and smiling, we could have compare teeth colors.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)
--
I thought you read the link Kate posted?

"Turks, Russians, Moldovans and Kazakhs were allegedly lured to Pristina with false promises of payments for their kidneys."

"The organs were transplanted to wealthy patients from Canada, Germany, Poland and Israel who paid up to €90,000, or $122,000."

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)


wow, who would have thought Rusians walking down the street with Serbian organs? This is what I call ; blood brothers.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

This investigation should have been carried out 10 years ago!

WAY too little, WAY too late!!
Pathetic!
(Predrag, 4 February 2011 11:25)


There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.

Mendo

pre 13 godina

Hopefully we get over this fabricated lies as soon as possible so we can move on.

By the way Oman recognised Kosovo today so one more less on Serbias side, slowely but surely. Very good start of the 2011 for Kosovo when it comes to recognitions.

pss

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)
Now that would be believable that Russia had organized a organ harvesting operation using Serbs, far more believable than the Albanian story. Because I doubt that a plane from Albania could easily land in Russia without a lot of red tape, unless it was organized in Russia. This investigation could prove enlightening.

Top

pre 13 godina

Why Russia???
Ops, that is where these lies have their orgin of fabrication along with Serbia.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 10:41)

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?

Predrag

pre 13 godina

More blah, blah, blah!
The politicians are talking BS and dragging their heels, whilst the Snake(Thaci)and his gang of murderers are cleaning up the evidence of their crimes and arranging "accidents" for any potential witnesses!

This investigation should have been carried out 10 years ago!

WAY too little, WAY too late!!
Pathetic!

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

According to Dačić, "EULEX would need to have much greater jurisdiction to carry out such an investigation, since it implies that an investigation needs to be conducted not only in Serbia and its southern province, but also in other countries, such as Albania, Turkey, Israel and Russia".


Why Russia???
Ops, that is where these lies have their orgin of fabrication along with Serbia.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)
=====================

They found plenty but some bright spark at Hague decided to destroy it all.
Why are you still pretending you haven't heard about that?

Predrag

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)


RUBBISH!
What complete and utter BS!

Firstly, the previous investigations did not turn up “Zilch”
They were inconclusive, and were not officially closed!
Secondly, the previous investigations were half hearted to say the very least!
They were stalled by the albanians on EVERY occasion!
At one stage the Talbanians even refused to co-operate at all and
Prevented investigators from entering the country!

They have a history of Organ trafficking and it is totally clear that these crimes were committed!

The sooner Thaci and his murderous cronies are behind bars the better!

Predrag

pre 13 godina

More blah, blah, blah!
The politicians are talking BS and dragging their heels, whilst the Snake(Thaci)and his gang of murderers are cleaning up the evidence of their crimes and arranging "accidents" for any potential witnesses!

This investigation should have been carried out 10 years ago!

WAY too little, WAY too late!!
Pathetic!

Top

pre 13 godina

Why Russia???
Ops, that is where these lies have their orgin of fabrication along with Serbia.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 10:41)

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

According to Dačić, "EULEX would need to have much greater jurisdiction to carry out such an investigation, since it implies that an investigation needs to be conducted not only in Serbia and its southern province, but also in other countries, such as Albania, Turkey, Israel and Russia".


Why Russia???
Ops, that is where these lies have their orgin of fabrication along with Serbia.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

This investigation should have been carried out 10 years ago!

WAY too little, WAY too late!!
Pathetic!
(Predrag, 4 February 2011 11:25)


There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)
--
I thought you read the link Kate posted?

"Turks, Russians, Moldovans and Kazakhs were allegedly lured to Pristina with false promises of payments for their kidneys."

"The organs were transplanted to wealthy patients from Canada, Germany, Poland and Israel who paid up to €90,000, or $122,000."

Mendo

pre 13 godina

Hopefully we get over this fabricated lies as soon as possible so we can move on.

By the way Oman recognised Kosovo today so one more less on Serbias side, slowely but surely. Very good start of the 2011 for Kosovo when it comes to recognitions.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)


wow, who would have thought Rusians walking down the street with Serbian organs? This is what I call ; blood brothers.

pss

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)
Now that would be believable that Russia had organized a organ harvesting operation using Serbs, far more believable than the Albanian story. Because I doubt that a plane from Albania could easily land in Russia without a lot of red tape, unless it was organized in Russia. This investigation could prove enlightening.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Now that would be believable that Russia had organized a organ harvesting operation using Serbs, far more believable than the Albanian story. "
(pss, 4 February 2011 13:55)

A drug consumer from, let's say, France has not 'organized' the drug trafficing. Just like organ receivers haven't 'organized' the illegal transplantion crimes. They are consumers. Another thing is that, usually, states don't organizes those crimes. Even in case of Kosovo it hasn't been the state, but a group of criminals. Well, in that special Kosovo case, the gang leaders play politicians, too, which is unusual for normal states.

KU

pre 13 godina

I wonder if mentioning Russia to American diplomats is a wise move from Dacic, after wikileaks showed us what american diplomats think of Russia.

Also, I would not call it "during the Thursday meeting with U.S. officials in Washington". I would call it "over bacon and eggs with U.S. officials in Washington"

The yearly breakfast of champions in Washington is so misused by our little politicians in their home countries. Two years ago it was Berisha's turn to boast about his big meetings:

http://www.km.gov.al/foto/1233859000-lajmBiden.jpg

People in Albania reacted to that picture by noticing the contrast between Berisha's yellow teeth and Biden's super-shiny teeth. They were ashamed. At which point, Berisha's side published naked pictures of the leader of the opposition in a nudist beach in France. Must say, politics in Albania is less boring than Serbia. It is also a shame Dacic is all alone and far away in that picture, not hugging anybody important and smiling, we could have compare teeth colors.

John

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)

There were 5 investigations (ICYT, UMNIK, Serbian War Crimes Prosecutor, BBC, Dick Marty) The ICYT investigation found plenty of evidence that organ trafficking happened (both physical evidence and witeness statements), but no individuals who took part. Del Ponte noted that the Albanian authorities prevented further inquiries into the matter.

The evidence found by the UNMIK investigation was described as "tantalising but inconclusive", and it was left to the local Kosovo Albanian authorities, who are of course, ex KLA's.

The BBC investigation presented many witness statements from both survivors and KLAs.

The ongoing Serbian War Crimes investigation found much evidence proving that Organ trafficking took place, that Hardinaj had a part and that there was someone above him (suspected to be Thaci).

The Marty investigation found the money trail, and that the Drenica group, headed by Hashim Thaci was responsible.

There is also the ongoing EULEX investigation who had preliminary findings only after a week.

Top

pre 13 godina

I thought you read the link Kate posted?

"Turks, Russians, Moldovans and Kazakhs were allegedly lured to Pristina with false promises of payments for their kidneys."
(Zoran, 4 February 2011 15:14)

But that link was about the Medicus Clinic Organ transplantion crime case, and not the organ harvesting crime case. ???

John

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)

You just achknowledged that Organ Trafficking took place.

doodah

pre 13 godina

They found plenty but some bright spark at Hague decided to destroy it all.
Why are you still pretending you haven't heard about that?
(Peggy, 5 February 2011 10:12)
Don't even try your propaganda bs, You and the world know that "all" the evidence destroyed was photographed and consisted only of some discarded medical supplies found at a dumpsite and provided no proof except to those like yourself who are desperate to believe it.
And to you the fact that there was a 1999 is proof positive that it occurred.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

According to Dačić, "EULEX would need to have much greater jurisdiction to carry out such an investigation, since it implies that an investigation needs to be conducted not only in Serbia and its southern province, but also in other countries, such as Albania, Turkey, Israel and Russia".


Why Russia???
Ops, that is where these lies have their orgin of fabrication along with Serbia.

Mendo

pre 13 godina

Hopefully we get over this fabricated lies as soon as possible so we can move on.

By the way Oman recognised Kosovo today so one more less on Serbias side, slowely but surely. Very good start of the 2011 for Kosovo when it comes to recognitions.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

This investigation should have been carried out 10 years ago!

WAY too little, WAY too late!!
Pathetic!
(Predrag, 4 February 2011 11:25)


There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)


wow, who would have thought Rusians walking down the street with Serbian organs? This is what I call ; blood brothers.

Top

pre 13 godina

Why Russia???
Ops, that is where these lies have their orgin of fabrication along with Serbia.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 10:41)

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?

pss

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)
Now that would be believable that Russia had organized a organ harvesting operation using Serbs, far more believable than the Albanian story. Because I doubt that a plane from Albania could easily land in Russia without a lot of red tape, unless it was organized in Russia. This investigation could prove enlightening.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)
--
I thought you read the link Kate posted?

"Turks, Russians, Moldovans and Kazakhs were allegedly lured to Pristina with false promises of payments for their kidneys."

"The organs were transplanted to wealthy patients from Canada, Germany, Poland and Israel who paid up to €90,000, or $122,000."

Predrag

pre 13 godina

More blah, blah, blah!
The politicians are talking BS and dragging their heels, whilst the Snake(Thaci)and his gang of murderers are cleaning up the evidence of their crimes and arranging "accidents" for any potential witnesses!

This investigation should have been carried out 10 years ago!

WAY too little, WAY too late!!
Pathetic!

doodah

pre 13 godina

They found plenty but some bright spark at Hague decided to destroy it all.
Why are you still pretending you haven't heard about that?
(Peggy, 5 February 2011 10:12)
Don't even try your propaganda bs, You and the world know that "all" the evidence destroyed was photographed and consisted only of some discarded medical supplies found at a dumpsite and provided no proof except to those like yourself who are desperate to believe it.
And to you the fact that there was a 1999 is proof positive that it occurred.

Top

pre 13 godina

I thought you read the link Kate posted?

"Turks, Russians, Moldovans and Kazakhs were allegedly lured to Pristina with false promises of payments for their kidneys."
(Zoran, 4 February 2011 15:14)

But that link was about the Medicus Clinic Organ transplantion crime case, and not the organ harvesting crime case. ???

Top

pre 13 godina

"Now that would be believable that Russia had organized a organ harvesting operation using Serbs, far more believable than the Albanian story. "
(pss, 4 February 2011 13:55)

A drug consumer from, let's say, France has not 'organized' the drug trafficing. Just like organ receivers haven't 'organized' the illegal transplantion crimes. They are consumers. Another thing is that, usually, states don't organizes those crimes. Even in case of Kosovo it hasn't been the state, but a group of criminals. Well, in that special Kosovo case, the gang leaders play politicians, too, which is unusual for normal states.

John

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)

There were 5 investigations (ICYT, UMNIK, Serbian War Crimes Prosecutor, BBC, Dick Marty) The ICYT investigation found plenty of evidence that organ trafficking happened (both physical evidence and witeness statements), but no individuals who took part. Del Ponte noted that the Albanian authorities prevented further inquiries into the matter.

The evidence found by the UNMIK investigation was described as "tantalising but inconclusive", and it was left to the local Kosovo Albanian authorities, who are of course, ex KLA's.

The BBC investigation presented many witness statements from both survivors and KLAs.

The ongoing Serbian War Crimes investigation found much evidence proving that Organ trafficking took place, that Hardinaj had a part and that there was someone above him (suspected to be Thaci).

The Marty investigation found the money trail, and that the Drenica group, headed by Hashim Thaci was responsible.

There is also the ongoing EULEX investigation who had preliminary findings only after a week.

KU

pre 13 godina

I wonder if mentioning Russia to American diplomats is a wise move from Dacic, after wikileaks showed us what american diplomats think of Russia.

Also, I would not call it "during the Thursday meeting with U.S. officials in Washington". I would call it "over bacon and eggs with U.S. officials in Washington"

The yearly breakfast of champions in Washington is so misused by our little politicians in their home countries. Two years ago it was Berisha's turn to boast about his big meetings:

http://www.km.gov.al/foto/1233859000-lajmBiden.jpg

People in Albania reacted to that picture by noticing the contrast between Berisha's yellow teeth and Biden's super-shiny teeth. They were ashamed. At which point, Berisha's side published naked pictures of the leader of the opposition in a nudist beach in France. Must say, politics in Albania is less boring than Serbia. It is also a shame Dacic is all alone and far away in that picture, not hugging anybody important and smiling, we could have compare teeth colors.

John

pre 13 godina

Not exactly! More like some of the possible organ receivers came from Russia?
(Top, 4 February 2011 12:49)

You just achknowledged that Organ Trafficking took place.

Predrag

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)


RUBBISH!
What complete and utter BS!

Firstly, the previous investigations did not turn up “Zilch”
They were inconclusive, and were not officially closed!
Secondly, the previous investigations were half hearted to say the very least!
They were stalled by the albanians on EVERY occasion!
At one stage the Talbanians even refused to co-operate at all and
Prevented investigators from entering the country!

They have a history of Organ trafficking and it is totally clear that these crimes were committed!

The sooner Thaci and his murderous cronies are behind bars the better!

Peggy

pre 13 godina

There were two investigation done already by ICTY and UNMIK, and zilch results at the end.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 13:56)
=====================

They found plenty but some bright spark at Hague decided to destroy it all.
Why are you still pretending you haven't heard about that?