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Thursday, 03.02.2011.

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"State secretary is murder suspect"

An Albanian language daily published in Priština is writing today that Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović is "a murder suspect".

Izvor: B92

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Basta!

pre 13 godina

Quod erat demonstrandum!

If only you would have understood the quotation... But you still don't get it, do you? First you made a public call to ignore me (first they ignore you), then you tried to ridicule me (then they laugh at you) and now you are being aggressive and rude (then they fight you …). You are so predictable. One only has to push the right button and you jump…

Jovan

pre 13 godina

wow, Basta, now you´re picking up pace, aren´t you? =)

...by quoting Gandhi you won´t make your point any better, my dear k-albanian friend.

Gandhi was a man of peace, ...some albanians are obsessed with violence. not only killing each other in clan-conflicts, or as a result of some outdated "kanun",

they throw stones at children and women, when not escorted by men,

they are poisoning non-albanian neighbour´s cattle in order to take away his livelihood,

you are using the most stupid propaganda methods in order to present yourself as a victim, since some of your socalled spin-doctors have told you that as a victim, you can make claims for foreign territory.

that´s all so cheapish, ...and you dare to quote Gandhi???

he would start spinning in his grave, if he knew who is quoting him.

that alone shows that you have no clue what you are writing about!

but that´s good, actually, since it convinces me even more that you are going to fail with your little freak creation on our territory!

as long as you are forced to use lies and fabrications, you are weak.

and that means, that you won´t win.

Serbia will win. and with Serbia, all those decent Albanians who are not fanatics, will win too.

but you will be just another frustrated dreamer.

lili

pre 13 godina

these accusations were known from the beginning.
for peace seeks,unmik and kosovo politicians choose to ignore them,and even take a decision to forbid any publication of these ,even when people did testify publikly.Now that you chose to come back to these past time,we too choose to testify with names and data for what serbs have done.
the war is not over ,of course!

Basta!

pre 13 godina

and what´s best, ..you still haven´t realized that you make yourself look quite foolish by doing so.
by the way, was this article above also a threat for you? =)
if so, go see the doctor!
(Jovan, 5 February 2011, 20:05)
***
'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.'
Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

Jovan

pre 13 godina

@Basta:

not only do you not know what propaganda is and what´s not, now you´re even portraying yourself here as a victim of a threat! =)

no, my dear, long enough have you k-albanians whined in the media and even when the camera´s were off, ...and long enough it had worked.

but now, I am afraid you will have to look for another method of spreading your propaganda!

calling everything that comes from Serbia or any serbian individual "an open threat" is qutie cheap, actually.

and what´s best, ..you still haven´t realized that you make yourself look quite foolish by doing so.

by the way, was this article above also a threat for you? =)

if so, go see the doctor!

kebekos

pre 13 godina

As for you Albanians who repetedly state that B92 only publishes propoganda, thats totally false, why would it Publish this article?
(John, 4 February 2011 20:22)

Because they are interested in your comments and not mine.

John

pre 13 godina

I was thinking, and I thought of a proposal for Serbia to recognise Kosovo as independent, however it would affect not only the Borders of Serbia, but also of Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro.

1. Thaci, Ceku and Other KLA Commanders are extradicted to the hague
2. Serbian Enclaves and Holy Sights (eg. Kosovo Polje, Granica) remain the territory of the Republic of Serbia.
3. Extra KFOR troops are sent into Kosovo; among them are a small number of Serbian troops to protect any Serbs remaining in parts of Kosovo that do not remain part of Serbia and any monuments that remain within Kosovo's borders
4. Republika Srpska, and the Other region of BIH that is majority Serb, scedes into the Republic of Serbia
5. Bosniak inhabited areas of Serbia and parts of Montenegro are sceded into Bosnia and Herzegovina
6. The Small Serbian majority region in Croatia scedes into Serbia, the Small Croatian Majority region in Serbia scedes into Croatia
7. The regions of Montenegro that voted against Independence/where the majority of the population declare as Serbs scede into Serbia
8. A small region in Serbia east of Kosovo scedes into Kosovo
9. Kosovo Albanian Authorities achknowledge war crimes and that Racak was hoaxed
10. All Human rights granted to any Serbs remaining in Kosovo.

Heres the map I put together
http://img815.imageshack.us/f/blakans.jpg/


Of course not everyone would be pleased with this; Chiefly Montenegro who would lose a huge portion of its territory and and gain none, and secondly Bosnia, which would lose a large part of its territory and gain little. However, if long lasting Balkans stability is wanted then this is a good option as it divides the former Yugoslavia on ethnic, and not Tito's lines. Its also Kosovo's only hope of gaining international recognition and UN membership

Note: I left out changes with Slavic Macedonia-Albania, Slovenia-Croatia and Bosnia-Croatia because i'm not sure of the current situation in those regions.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

Sorry Jovan, hasn’t convinced me. But thanks for the effort anyway. Perhaps you should have listened to your own advice:
'as for "Basta"
my dear friends, do not fall for those cheap attempts by some of our k-albanian friends to post provocations under foreign nick-names (Jovan, 3 February 2011, 13:57)'

Btw: 'enjoy you yellow-papers in down-town pristina as long as you can! the day will come that you will be quite upset about reality. that´s an opinion, by the way... =)' No, wrong again, that is an open threat.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

wow. basta! you made me smile! thanks for your great attention, though! =)

but, unfortunately I have to tell you that you too, do not seem to know the difference between the usual k-albanian wishful thinking in here and news from Serbia.

not to speak about what I write as my opinion here, and what you do not seem to realize.

well, let´s make it easier for you. I write my opinion. got it?

ok.

now, what you write, be it about mass graves, or "serbian occupation" that is just ( quite stupid ) propaganda.


Serbia will prevail, that´s neither wishful thinking nor propaganda... it´s a simple truth. a certainty.
but you are free to call that propaganda, if you wish to do so. it doesn´t really change anything...

but what changed my view of you was watching you post a definition of "propaganda" here and in the same moment not being able do realize the difference between ... but, who do I tell this... it´s senseless though.

enjoy you yellow-papers in down-town pristina as long as you can!
the day will come that you will be quite upset about reality.
that´s an opinion, by the way... =)

John

pre 13 godina

What the Pristina daily fails to mention is that the claims were investigated by UNMIK and they found that they had no basis. As for you Albanians who repetedly state that B92 only publishes propoganda, thats totally false, why would it Publish this article?

ben

pre 13 godina

It is time that the 15,000 innocent civilians gat some justice: the names of their murderers are known and they must face the justice.

There are still 2,000 K-Albanians missing their killers are known - they must face justice.

The French KFOR must also give some credible answers about why allowing the ehtnic cleansing of the north Mitrovica from over 11,000 Albanians??? Anothet Srebrenica???

How many kidneys have been stolen and sold to these 2,000 missing and 15,000 killed only god knows; but Marty shoudl investigate that as well.

The new investigation if it is international must include ALL crimes commited in Kosova.

See for Oli there are names and surnames of the dead persons; in the Marty/Del Ponte's fanatzy book there is not even a single name.

This is huge difference that only blind racist cannot see.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

everything you say is propaganda, but not everything what comes from Serbia is propaganda.
if you do not know the difference, I feel sympathy for you.
(Jovan, 4 February 2011, 14:07)
***
To make it easier for everyone, here is an example:

Serrbia will prrevail, just a question of time.
(Jovan, 3 February 2011 13:57)

You see, that's what propaganda* looks like.

*Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

"Thanks, for confirmation that nything that comes from Serbia regarding Kosova, it is a poore propaganda.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 10:52)"

isn´t it funny though? this kid is calling himself "kosova-usa", but he´s not capable of writing his comments in a way that others could understand what he actually wants to say! in english, of course.

well, I have understood what you wanted to say, my dear k-albanian friend. but unfortunately you don´t seem to know the meaning of the term "propaganda".

check it, and then read my comment again.

everything you say is propaganda, but not everything what comes from Serbia is propaganda.

if you do not know the difference, I feel sympathy for you.

Dave

pre 13 godina

I excitedly ran out today and bought all the British papers. After all, this is a big story - a senior Serb official in the Kosovo ministry accused of war crimes should be on all the front pages (together with an abject apology to the Albos that we could ever for a moment have suspected them of any wrongdoing).

And... not a mention. Nothing. Asgjë. ништа. Could it be that the media in this great "friend of Kosova" thinks that the story is a clumsy fiction, conjured up in desperation to deflect attention from allegations made by the rather more credible Council of Europe?

I do believe it could be!

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Who was the author of this story? Walt Disney?
(Marko, 3 February 2011 15:56)

Almost.... your "lovely" UNMIK was the one. Now it is time to write hundreds of articles of this proven massacre. However, I somehow believe that the passion for this is very much limited among them who love unproven reports.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

I was waiting for that kind of counter-propaganda, and I am astonished how long it took them to invent something like that.

it might be that they are so frustrated and angry that they were not able to come up earlier with that nonsense.

and... it´s not difficult to figure out who is standing behind this Pristina-paper...


someone´s getting nervous I guess. =)
(Jovan, 3 February 2011 14:00)

Thanks, for confirmation that nything that comes from Serbia regarding Kosova, it is a poore propaganda.

Je¿ Galaktyki Gwiezdnyh Wojen

pre 13 godina

"marked Ivanović and former police chief in the north Dragan Delibašić as "chief suspects in the murder of Nderim Ajeti and Neriman Dzaku".

They forgot, he not only killed Neriman Dzaku but also Count Dooku.

Here is the proof:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Prime suspect....not looking good for Serbia.

Sooner or later he'll have to face a judge in Pristina. Guess EU just found another precondition for Serbia. Mladic, recognize Kosovo, and oli now.

Stefan

pre 13 godina

Even if the organ trafficking was proved to be true ( ridiculous) , this will never equal the crimes committed in Vukovar,Srebrenica and Kosovo by Serbian army, police, paramilitary with the benediction of the orthodox church. Images of walking skeletons in concentration camps will forever stay vivid in people’s memory. The bombardments against Dubrovnik (World heritage), the siege of Sarajevo, the snipers shooting from the hills surrounding the city, the carnage at the Sarajevo market will never be forgotten.
This is real and it did not happened 100 years ago, but just a decade ago. So please don’t act like nothing happened and try to put an equal sign between a state’s well prepared aggression against all its neighbors with the benediction of the “academy of science” and the “holy orthodox church” of Serbia, and the guerrilla fight for survival of KLA and other light armed groups. There is more out there than just reading of cheap propaganda and biased comments in a daily basis. I do read sometimes the articles and comments just to see if there is any improvement in the people’s judgments, but unfortunately I see the same kind of comments which are not contributing in any way to ease the relations between Serb and Albanian civilians. In the contrary the comments are full of hatred. So long my friends

The Flying Dutchman

pre 13 godina

@Peggy
You should be ashamed for making fun of one of the greatest human tragedys of the Kosovo-war. 47 Albanians civilians were brutally slaughtered by the Serb forces and thrown into a ditch like if they were animals. Your comment and those of your compatriots prove once again why Kosova should be independent and why there is no way back. As long as Serbs refuse to be confronted with their past, their will never be peace and reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians. 

As for the accusations against Ivanovic, some commentators tend to forget that they come from an UNMIK-report which "Koha Ditore" has in it's posession and is reporting about it. Trying to portray this as "Albanian propaganda" is just a way to deny this horrible crime, as you always do. Imagain what the reactions would have been if the report talked about an Albanian being accused of something like this.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

@Nikshala:

well, I´ve read it myself, my dear friend, but...the article is about "Koha Ditore" SAYING that it is contained in UNMIK-reports...

Koha Ditore can say a lot, actually.

you can say that KiM is independent as well, I can say that Elvis Presley is still alive, playing poker with J.F.K. and Adolf H. in a secret US- space-station on the dark side of the moon...

everybody can say everything...

I think, you got my point.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

The Albanians for so long have been playing the pretend innocent victim fake tears in front of the camera don't really know how to react to the organ trade. I suppose this is some sought of attempt?Iight surprised to hear of Albanians being driven murdered ect ect sounds a lot like 98/99, maybe they will fake another Racak in nth mitrovica? Kill some Serbs. Take their organs and then dump them in a whole... Let's face the west is loosing there patience with the K Albs, what were they thinking back in 99? 12 years on they are harvesting the seeds of 99... To all you K Albs, the deaths of a few uck soldiers does not = genocide! Of course there is collaretell damage in all wars, but does not include removing organs. Thanking u so from a very hot and humid Sydney!
(Aussie Of Sydney, 3 February 2011 22:08) Seems like this story really hurts to most of but those family who lost someone you cannot and no one cant ignore and those family's have papers of OWNERSHIPS of they houses this is not just talk or a story as Dick Marty has wrote but happen in the thousands of living eyes...and albanians they will never be in same CUP as serbs are know for they well doing when it comes to the WAR CRIMES...

Aussie Of Sydney

pre 13 godina

The Albanians for so long have been playing the pretend innocent victim fake tears in front of the camera don't really know how to react to the organ trade. I suppose this is some sought of attempt?Iight surprised to hear of Albanians being driven murdered ect ect sounds a lot like 98/99, maybe they will fake another Racak in nth mitrovica? Kill some Serbs. Take their organs and then dump them in a whole... Let's face the west is loosing there patience with the K Albs, what were they thinking back in 99? 12 years on they are harvesting the seeds of 99... To all you K Albs, the deaths of a few uck soldiers does not = genocide! Of course there is collaretell damage in all wars, but does not include removing organs. Thanking u so from a very hot and humid Sydney!

Olli

pre 13 godina

Well, let's learn more about this case. If these people were killed there's a perpetrator somewhere. If they were killed there's someone somewhere who knows something.

The first word belongs to UNMIK.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Desperation is eating the uck terrorists. This paper should write fantasies for hollywood movies.
(Ratko, 3 February 2011 15:16)
=============================

I'm sure it already is.
Angelina Jolie will star in them no doubt.
The title will be "Serbian minister's Racak massacre".

Free consultation

pre 13 godina

"State secretary is murder suspect"

All suspects of crimes should be investigated by proper authorities and if incriminating evidence is found they should be arrested and stand trial,which is the norm in all civilized societies. Does anybody here see or have a problem with that?
If anybody does,let me know which part of my comment you didn't understand as I'll be checking in for your questions.

tani

pre 13 godina

OUCH... This must hurt, ehh?? So you have criminals in your gov.: Tadic must have known this.So Tadic is coopereting with murders and war criminals and they are in his gov.. What make Tadic so different from Thaci. They both are supposed to know everithing about their collaborators. Well at least according to Dick Marty.. So a unmik report when is against albanians is true, when it is against serbs is untrue? What about the mackatica case is someone interested to make justice there? Are the serbian prosecutors interested in making justice or do we need an indipendent body to investigete these crimes,too??

bganon

pre 13 godina

PRN you mean Thaci accepted former Milosevic cronies in his bed - not too patriotic really?

Extradition? Oh dear, you let yourself down, I thought you claimed that North and South Kosovo are the same country...

But seriously if he is guilty I don't have a problem in seeing him sent down. I don't know him, but to be honest he doesn't strike me as that type, but who knows?

Remember its not the act of an idividual that is important, its the (re)actions of society that is important. I call for the rule of law and justice for everybody.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Kosovo will want his extradition ASAP!
(PRN, 3 February 2011 16:01)
--
ROFL!!! This is the funniest thing I've heard in a while. He lives in Kosovo so how do you extradite someone to a province they already live in?

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

HAHAHAHA - this propaganda is hilarious. How come CNN did not report this story in 2000? Where was christiane amanpour? HAHAHA - what a joke! Just face it - your phoney "state" is finished.

TITO

pre 13 godina

This poor try for some propaganda points is not working for you dear Albos is it.
Anyway, we forgive you and urge you to spend more time in building viable economy then wasting your time in chit chat and hate speach.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"State secretary is murder suspect"

I was wondering why he left Thaci's bed and went to Tadic. He must have noticed that investigation in that criminal case may be unavoidable.

Kosovo will want his extradition ASAP!

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

Crimial idictments must be issued for these gangster serb's who hide behind their uniforms in the lawless, gun ridden, war criminal haven called North Mitrovica.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Jovan,

this is coming from your friends UNMIK. Koha Ditore is just reporting this....but you are right they are quite late - 10 years too late!

Milos Obilic

pre 13 godina

Brilliant! As you say, it's taken them a few months to make up a story, but they got their in the end. And doesn't Vetton Surroi still own Koha? I remember him when he used to be a journalist.

One things for sure, I don't think this is going to make the front page of the Washington Post. Nice try but no cigar, albo brothers.

BNS

pre 13 godina

"11 years after the "massacre", writes Koha Ditore, "no one has been convicted for the murder of ten and wounding of 25 people"."
--------
Wow, B92. 10 dead, 5 wounded, 11500 expelled and it's not a massacre? We need to appoint a special tribunal, like that in Lebanon, to investigate this. At least the crime happened, we know it

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I was waiting for that kind of counter-propaganda, and I am astonished how long it took them to invent something like that.

it might be that they are so frustrated and angry that they were not able to come up earlier with that nonsense.

and... it´s not difficult to figure out who is standing behind this Pristina-paper...


someone´s getting nervous I guess. =)

Pejoni

pre 13 godina

Read my fellow Serbian neighbors and learn smth about Kosovo, this happend after the war as you so much like to consider yourself to be the only victim.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Jovan,

this is coming from your friends UNMIK. Koha Ditore is just reporting this....but you are right they are quite late - 10 years too late!

PRN

pre 13 godina

"State secretary is murder suspect"

I was wondering why he left Thaci's bed and went to Tadic. He must have noticed that investigation in that criminal case may be unavoidable.

Kosovo will want his extradition ASAP!

Pejoni

pre 13 godina

Read my fellow Serbian neighbors and learn smth about Kosovo, this happend after the war as you so much like to consider yourself to be the only victim.

Milos Obilic

pre 13 godina

Brilliant! As you say, it's taken them a few months to make up a story, but they got their in the end. And doesn't Vetton Surroi still own Koha? I remember him when he used to be a journalist.

One things for sure, I don't think this is going to make the front page of the Washington Post. Nice try but no cigar, albo brothers.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

HAHAHAHA - this propaganda is hilarious. How come CNN did not report this story in 2000? Where was christiane amanpour? HAHAHA - what a joke! Just face it - your phoney "state" is finished.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I was waiting for that kind of counter-propaganda, and I am astonished how long it took them to invent something like that.

it might be that they are so frustrated and angry that they were not able to come up earlier with that nonsense.

and... it´s not difficult to figure out who is standing behind this Pristina-paper...


someone´s getting nervous I guess. =)

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Kosovo will want his extradition ASAP!
(PRN, 3 February 2011 16:01)
--
ROFL!!! This is the funniest thing I've heard in a while. He lives in Kosovo so how do you extradite someone to a province they already live in?

BNS

pre 13 godina

"11 years after the "massacre", writes Koha Ditore, "no one has been convicted for the murder of ten and wounding of 25 people"."
--------
Wow, B92. 10 dead, 5 wounded, 11500 expelled and it's not a massacre? We need to appoint a special tribunal, like that in Lebanon, to investigate this. At least the crime happened, we know it

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

Crimial idictments must be issued for these gangster serb's who hide behind their uniforms in the lawless, gun ridden, war criminal haven called North Mitrovica.

bganon

pre 13 godina

PRN you mean Thaci accepted former Milosevic cronies in his bed - not too patriotic really?

Extradition? Oh dear, you let yourself down, I thought you claimed that North and South Kosovo are the same country...

But seriously if he is guilty I don't have a problem in seeing him sent down. I don't know him, but to be honest he doesn't strike me as that type, but who knows?

Remember its not the act of an idividual that is important, its the (re)actions of society that is important. I call for the rule of law and justice for everybody.

tani

pre 13 godina

OUCH... This must hurt, ehh?? So you have criminals in your gov.: Tadic must have known this.So Tadic is coopereting with murders and war criminals and they are in his gov.. What make Tadic so different from Thaci. They both are supposed to know everithing about their collaborators. Well at least according to Dick Marty.. So a unmik report when is against albanians is true, when it is against serbs is untrue? What about the mackatica case is someone interested to make justice there? Are the serbian prosecutors interested in making justice or do we need an indipendent body to investigete these crimes,too??

TITO

pre 13 godina

This poor try for some propaganda points is not working for you dear Albos is it.
Anyway, we forgive you and urge you to spend more time in building viable economy then wasting your time in chit chat and hate speach.

Aussie Of Sydney

pre 13 godina

The Albanians for so long have been playing the pretend innocent victim fake tears in front of the camera don't really know how to react to the organ trade. I suppose this is some sought of attempt?Iight surprised to hear of Albanians being driven murdered ect ect sounds a lot like 98/99, maybe they will fake another Racak in nth mitrovica? Kill some Serbs. Take their organs and then dump them in a whole... Let's face the west is loosing there patience with the K Albs, what were they thinking back in 99? 12 years on they are harvesting the seeds of 99... To all you K Albs, the deaths of a few uck soldiers does not = genocide! Of course there is collaretell damage in all wars, but does not include removing organs. Thanking u so from a very hot and humid Sydney!

Basta!

pre 13 godina

everything you say is propaganda, but not everything what comes from Serbia is propaganda.
if you do not know the difference, I feel sympathy for you.
(Jovan, 4 February 2011, 14:07)
***
To make it easier for everyone, here is an example:

Serrbia will prrevail, just a question of time.
(Jovan, 3 February 2011 13:57)

You see, that's what propaganda* looks like.

*Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.

Free consultation

pre 13 godina

"State secretary is murder suspect"

All suspects of crimes should be investigated by proper authorities and if incriminating evidence is found they should be arrested and stand trial,which is the norm in all civilized societies. Does anybody here see or have a problem with that?
If anybody does,let me know which part of my comment you didn't understand as I'll be checking in for your questions.

The Flying Dutchman

pre 13 godina

@Peggy
You should be ashamed for making fun of one of the greatest human tragedys of the Kosovo-war. 47 Albanians civilians were brutally slaughtered by the Serb forces and thrown into a ditch like if they were animals. Your comment and those of your compatriots prove once again why Kosova should be independent and why there is no way back. As long as Serbs refuse to be confronted with their past, their will never be peace and reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians. 

As for the accusations against Ivanovic, some commentators tend to forget that they come from an UNMIK-report which "Koha Ditore" has in it's posession and is reporting about it. Trying to portray this as "Albanian propaganda" is just a way to deny this horrible crime, as you always do. Imagain what the reactions would have been if the report talked about an Albanian being accused of something like this.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

Sorry Jovan, hasn’t convinced me. But thanks for the effort anyway. Perhaps you should have listened to your own advice:
'as for "Basta"
my dear friends, do not fall for those cheap attempts by some of our k-albanian friends to post provocations under foreign nick-names (Jovan, 3 February 2011, 13:57)'

Btw: 'enjoy you yellow-papers in down-town pristina as long as you can! the day will come that you will be quite upset about reality. that´s an opinion, by the way... =)' No, wrong again, that is an open threat.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Desperation is eating the uck terrorists. This paper should write fantasies for hollywood movies.
(Ratko, 3 February 2011 15:16)
=============================

I'm sure it already is.
Angelina Jolie will star in them no doubt.
The title will be "Serbian minister's Racak massacre".

Basta!

pre 13 godina

and what´s best, ..you still haven´t realized that you make yourself look quite foolish by doing so.
by the way, was this article above also a threat for you? =)
if so, go see the doctor!
(Jovan, 5 February 2011, 20:05)
***
'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.'
Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Prime suspect....not looking good for Serbia.

Sooner or later he'll have to face a judge in Pristina. Guess EU just found another precondition for Serbia. Mladic, recognize Kosovo, and oli now.

Stefan

pre 13 godina

Even if the organ trafficking was proved to be true ( ridiculous) , this will never equal the crimes committed in Vukovar,Srebrenica and Kosovo by Serbian army, police, paramilitary with the benediction of the orthodox church. Images of walking skeletons in concentration camps will forever stay vivid in people’s memory. The bombardments against Dubrovnik (World heritage), the siege of Sarajevo, the snipers shooting from the hills surrounding the city, the carnage at the Sarajevo market will never be forgotten.
This is real and it did not happened 100 years ago, but just a decade ago. So please don’t act like nothing happened and try to put an equal sign between a state’s well prepared aggression against all its neighbors with the benediction of the “academy of science” and the “holy orthodox church” of Serbia, and the guerrilla fight for survival of KLA and other light armed groups. There is more out there than just reading of cheap propaganda and biased comments in a daily basis. I do read sometimes the articles and comments just to see if there is any improvement in the people’s judgments, but unfortunately I see the same kind of comments which are not contributing in any way to ease the relations between Serb and Albanian civilians. In the contrary the comments are full of hatred. So long my friends

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

I was waiting for that kind of counter-propaganda, and I am astonished how long it took them to invent something like that.

it might be that they are so frustrated and angry that they were not able to come up earlier with that nonsense.

and... it´s not difficult to figure out who is standing behind this Pristina-paper...


someone´s getting nervous I guess. =)
(Jovan, 3 February 2011 14:00)

Thanks, for confirmation that nything that comes from Serbia regarding Kosova, it is a poore propaganda.

ben

pre 13 godina

It is time that the 15,000 innocent civilians gat some justice: the names of their murderers are known and they must face the justice.

There are still 2,000 K-Albanians missing their killers are known - they must face justice.

The French KFOR must also give some credible answers about why allowing the ehtnic cleansing of the north Mitrovica from over 11,000 Albanians??? Anothet Srebrenica???

How many kidneys have been stolen and sold to these 2,000 missing and 15,000 killed only god knows; but Marty shoudl investigate that as well.

The new investigation if it is international must include ALL crimes commited in Kosova.

See for Oli there are names and surnames of the dead persons; in the Marty/Del Ponte's fanatzy book there is not even a single name.

This is huge difference that only blind racist cannot see.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

Quod erat demonstrandum!

If only you would have understood the quotation... But you still don't get it, do you? First you made a public call to ignore me (first they ignore you), then you tried to ridicule me (then they laugh at you) and now you are being aggressive and rude (then they fight you …). You are so predictable. One only has to push the right button and you jump…

Olli

pre 13 godina

Well, let's learn more about this case. If these people were killed there's a perpetrator somewhere. If they were killed there's someone somewhere who knows something.

The first word belongs to UNMIK.

Je¿ Galaktyki Gwiezdnyh Wojen

pre 13 godina

"marked Ivanović and former police chief in the north Dragan Delibašić as "chief suspects in the murder of Nderim Ajeti and Neriman Dzaku".

They forgot, he not only killed Neriman Dzaku but also Count Dooku.

Here is the proof:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Who was the author of this story? Walt Disney?
(Marko, 3 February 2011 15:56)

Almost.... your "lovely" UNMIK was the one. Now it is time to write hundreds of articles of this proven massacre. However, I somehow believe that the passion for this is very much limited among them who love unproven reports.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

@Nikshala:

well, I´ve read it myself, my dear friend, but...the article is about "Koha Ditore" SAYING that it is contained in UNMIK-reports...

Koha Ditore can say a lot, actually.

you can say that KiM is independent as well, I can say that Elvis Presley is still alive, playing poker with J.F.K. and Adolf H. in a secret US- space-station on the dark side of the moon...

everybody can say everything...

I think, you got my point.

John

pre 13 godina

What the Pristina daily fails to mention is that the claims were investigated by UNMIK and they found that they had no basis. As for you Albanians who repetedly state that B92 only publishes propoganda, thats totally false, why would it Publish this article?

lili

pre 13 godina

these accusations were known from the beginning.
for peace seeks,unmik and kosovo politicians choose to ignore them,and even take a decision to forbid any publication of these ,even when people did testify publikly.Now that you chose to come back to these past time,we too choose to testify with names and data for what serbs have done.
the war is not over ,of course!

kebekos

pre 13 godina

As for you Albanians who repetedly state that B92 only publishes propoganda, thats totally false, why would it Publish this article?
(John, 4 February 2011 20:22)

Because they are interested in your comments and not mine.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

The Albanians for so long have been playing the pretend innocent victim fake tears in front of the camera don't really know how to react to the organ trade. I suppose this is some sought of attempt?Iight surprised to hear of Albanians being driven murdered ect ect sounds a lot like 98/99, maybe they will fake another Racak in nth mitrovica? Kill some Serbs. Take their organs and then dump them in a whole... Let's face the west is loosing there patience with the K Albs, what were they thinking back in 99? 12 years on they are harvesting the seeds of 99... To all you K Albs, the deaths of a few uck soldiers does not = genocide! Of course there is collaretell damage in all wars, but does not include removing organs. Thanking u so from a very hot and humid Sydney!
(Aussie Of Sydney, 3 February 2011 22:08) Seems like this story really hurts to most of but those family who lost someone you cannot and no one cant ignore and those family's have papers of OWNERSHIPS of they houses this is not just talk or a story as Dick Marty has wrote but happen in the thousands of living eyes...and albanians they will never be in same CUP as serbs are know for they well doing when it comes to the WAR CRIMES...

Dave

pre 13 godina

I excitedly ran out today and bought all the British papers. After all, this is a big story - a senior Serb official in the Kosovo ministry accused of war crimes should be on all the front pages (together with an abject apology to the Albos that we could ever for a moment have suspected them of any wrongdoing).

And... not a mention. Nothing. Asgjë. ништа. Could it be that the media in this great "friend of Kosova" thinks that the story is a clumsy fiction, conjured up in desperation to deflect attention from allegations made by the rather more credible Council of Europe?

I do believe it could be!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

"Thanks, for confirmation that nything that comes from Serbia regarding Kosova, it is a poore propaganda.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 10:52)"

isn´t it funny though? this kid is calling himself "kosova-usa", but he´s not capable of writing his comments in a way that others could understand what he actually wants to say! in english, of course.

well, I have understood what you wanted to say, my dear k-albanian friend. but unfortunately you don´t seem to know the meaning of the term "propaganda".

check it, and then read my comment again.

everything you say is propaganda, but not everything what comes from Serbia is propaganda.

if you do not know the difference, I feel sympathy for you.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

wow. basta! you made me smile! thanks for your great attention, though! =)

but, unfortunately I have to tell you that you too, do not seem to know the difference between the usual k-albanian wishful thinking in here and news from Serbia.

not to speak about what I write as my opinion here, and what you do not seem to realize.

well, let´s make it easier for you. I write my opinion. got it?

ok.

now, what you write, be it about mass graves, or "serbian occupation" that is just ( quite stupid ) propaganda.


Serbia will prevail, that´s neither wishful thinking nor propaganda... it´s a simple truth. a certainty.
but you are free to call that propaganda, if you wish to do so. it doesn´t really change anything...

but what changed my view of you was watching you post a definition of "propaganda" here and in the same moment not being able do realize the difference between ... but, who do I tell this... it´s senseless though.

enjoy you yellow-papers in down-town pristina as long as you can!
the day will come that you will be quite upset about reality.
that´s an opinion, by the way... =)

Jovan

pre 13 godina

wow, Basta, now you´re picking up pace, aren´t you? =)

...by quoting Gandhi you won´t make your point any better, my dear k-albanian friend.

Gandhi was a man of peace, ...some albanians are obsessed with violence. not only killing each other in clan-conflicts, or as a result of some outdated "kanun",

they throw stones at children and women, when not escorted by men,

they are poisoning non-albanian neighbour´s cattle in order to take away his livelihood,

you are using the most stupid propaganda methods in order to present yourself as a victim, since some of your socalled spin-doctors have told you that as a victim, you can make claims for foreign territory.

that´s all so cheapish, ...and you dare to quote Gandhi???

he would start spinning in his grave, if he knew who is quoting him.

that alone shows that you have no clue what you are writing about!

but that´s good, actually, since it convinces me even more that you are going to fail with your little freak creation on our territory!

as long as you are forced to use lies and fabrications, you are weak.

and that means, that you won´t win.

Serbia will win. and with Serbia, all those decent Albanians who are not fanatics, will win too.

but you will be just another frustrated dreamer.

John

pre 13 godina

I was thinking, and I thought of a proposal for Serbia to recognise Kosovo as independent, however it would affect not only the Borders of Serbia, but also of Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro.

1. Thaci, Ceku and Other KLA Commanders are extradicted to the hague
2. Serbian Enclaves and Holy Sights (eg. Kosovo Polje, Granica) remain the territory of the Republic of Serbia.
3. Extra KFOR troops are sent into Kosovo; among them are a small number of Serbian troops to protect any Serbs remaining in parts of Kosovo that do not remain part of Serbia and any monuments that remain within Kosovo's borders
4. Republika Srpska, and the Other region of BIH that is majority Serb, scedes into the Republic of Serbia
5. Bosniak inhabited areas of Serbia and parts of Montenegro are sceded into Bosnia and Herzegovina
6. The Small Serbian majority region in Croatia scedes into Serbia, the Small Croatian Majority region in Serbia scedes into Croatia
7. The regions of Montenegro that voted against Independence/where the majority of the population declare as Serbs scede into Serbia
8. A small region in Serbia east of Kosovo scedes into Kosovo
9. Kosovo Albanian Authorities achknowledge war crimes and that Racak was hoaxed
10. All Human rights granted to any Serbs remaining in Kosovo.

Heres the map I put together
http://img815.imageshack.us/f/blakans.jpg/


Of course not everyone would be pleased with this; Chiefly Montenegro who would lose a huge portion of its territory and and gain none, and secondly Bosnia, which would lose a large part of its territory and gain little. However, if long lasting Balkans stability is wanted then this is a good option as it divides the former Yugoslavia on ethnic, and not Tito's lines. Its also Kosovo's only hope of gaining international recognition and UN membership

Note: I left out changes with Slavic Macedonia-Albania, Slovenia-Croatia and Bosnia-Croatia because i'm not sure of the current situation in those regions.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

@Basta:

not only do you not know what propaganda is and what´s not, now you´re even portraying yourself here as a victim of a threat! =)

no, my dear, long enough have you k-albanians whined in the media and even when the camera´s were off, ...and long enough it had worked.

but now, I am afraid you will have to look for another method of spreading your propaganda!

calling everything that comes from Serbia or any serbian individual "an open threat" is qutie cheap, actually.

and what´s best, ..you still haven´t realized that you make yourself look quite foolish by doing so.

by the way, was this article above also a threat for you? =)

if so, go see the doctor!

Milos Obilic

pre 13 godina

Brilliant! As you say, it's taken them a few months to make up a story, but they got their in the end. And doesn't Vetton Surroi still own Koha? I remember him when he used to be a journalist.

One things for sure, I don't think this is going to make the front page of the Washington Post. Nice try but no cigar, albo brothers.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

I was waiting for that kind of counter-propaganda, and I am astonished how long it took them to invent something like that.

it might be that they are so frustrated and angry that they were not able to come up earlier with that nonsense.

and... it´s not difficult to figure out who is standing behind this Pristina-paper...


someone´s getting nervous I guess. =)

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Kosovo will want his extradition ASAP!
(PRN, 3 February 2011 16:01)
--
ROFL!!! This is the funniest thing I've heard in a while. He lives in Kosovo so how do you extradite someone to a province they already live in?

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

HAHAHAHA - this propaganda is hilarious. How come CNN did not report this story in 2000? Where was christiane amanpour? HAHAHA - what a joke! Just face it - your phoney "state" is finished.

TITO

pre 13 godina

This poor try for some propaganda points is not working for you dear Albos is it.
Anyway, we forgive you and urge you to spend more time in building viable economy then wasting your time in chit chat and hate speach.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"State secretary is murder suspect"

I was wondering why he left Thaci's bed and went to Tadic. He must have noticed that investigation in that criminal case may be unavoidable.

Kosovo will want his extradition ASAP!

Pejoni

pre 13 godina

Read my fellow Serbian neighbors and learn smth about Kosovo, this happend after the war as you so much like to consider yourself to be the only victim.

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

Crimial idictments must be issued for these gangster serb's who hide behind their uniforms in the lawless, gun ridden, war criminal haven called North Mitrovica.

bganon

pre 13 godina

PRN you mean Thaci accepted former Milosevic cronies in his bed - not too patriotic really?

Extradition? Oh dear, you let yourself down, I thought you claimed that North and South Kosovo are the same country...

But seriously if he is guilty I don't have a problem in seeing him sent down. I don't know him, but to be honest he doesn't strike me as that type, but who knows?

Remember its not the act of an idividual that is important, its the (re)actions of society that is important. I call for the rule of law and justice for everybody.

BNS

pre 13 godina

"11 years after the "massacre", writes Koha Ditore, "no one has been convicted for the murder of ten and wounding of 25 people"."
--------
Wow, B92. 10 dead, 5 wounded, 11500 expelled and it's not a massacre? We need to appoint a special tribunal, like that in Lebanon, to investigate this. At least the crime happened, we know it

nikshala

pre 13 godina

Jovan,

this is coming from your friends UNMIK. Koha Ditore is just reporting this....but you are right they are quite late - 10 years too late!

Aussie Of Sydney

pre 13 godina

The Albanians for so long have been playing the pretend innocent victim fake tears in front of the camera don't really know how to react to the organ trade. I suppose this is some sought of attempt?Iight surprised to hear of Albanians being driven murdered ect ect sounds a lot like 98/99, maybe they will fake another Racak in nth mitrovica? Kill some Serbs. Take their organs and then dump them in a whole... Let's face the west is loosing there patience with the K Albs, what were they thinking back in 99? 12 years on they are harvesting the seeds of 99... To all you K Albs, the deaths of a few uck soldiers does not = genocide! Of course there is collaretell damage in all wars, but does not include removing organs. Thanking u so from a very hot and humid Sydney!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

@Basta:

not only do you not know what propaganda is and what´s not, now you´re even portraying yourself here as a victim of a threat! =)

no, my dear, long enough have you k-albanians whined in the media and even when the camera´s were off, ...and long enough it had worked.

but now, I am afraid you will have to look for another method of spreading your propaganda!

calling everything that comes from Serbia or any serbian individual "an open threat" is qutie cheap, actually.

and what´s best, ..you still haven´t realized that you make yourself look quite foolish by doing so.

by the way, was this article above also a threat for you? =)

if so, go see the doctor!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

wow. basta! you made me smile! thanks for your great attention, though! =)

but, unfortunately I have to tell you that you too, do not seem to know the difference between the usual k-albanian wishful thinking in here and news from Serbia.

not to speak about what I write as my opinion here, and what you do not seem to realize.

well, let´s make it easier for you. I write my opinion. got it?

ok.

now, what you write, be it about mass graves, or "serbian occupation" that is just ( quite stupid ) propaganda.


Serbia will prevail, that´s neither wishful thinking nor propaganda... it´s a simple truth. a certainty.
but you are free to call that propaganda, if you wish to do so. it doesn´t really change anything...

but what changed my view of you was watching you post a definition of "propaganda" here and in the same moment not being able do realize the difference between ... but, who do I tell this... it´s senseless though.

enjoy you yellow-papers in down-town pristina as long as you can!
the day will come that you will be quite upset about reality.
that´s an opinion, by the way... =)

tani

pre 13 godina

OUCH... This must hurt, ehh?? So you have criminals in your gov.: Tadic must have known this.So Tadic is coopereting with murders and war criminals and they are in his gov.. What make Tadic so different from Thaci. They both are supposed to know everithing about their collaborators. Well at least according to Dick Marty.. So a unmik report when is against albanians is true, when it is against serbs is untrue? What about the mackatica case is someone interested to make justice there? Are the serbian prosecutors interested in making justice or do we need an indipendent body to investigete these crimes,too??

Jovan

pre 13 godina

"Thanks, for confirmation that nything that comes from Serbia regarding Kosova, it is a poore propaganda.
(Kosova-USA, 4 February 2011 10:52)"

isn´t it funny though? this kid is calling himself "kosova-usa", but he´s not capable of writing his comments in a way that others could understand what he actually wants to say! in english, of course.

well, I have understood what you wanted to say, my dear k-albanian friend. but unfortunately you don´t seem to know the meaning of the term "propaganda".

check it, and then read my comment again.

everything you say is propaganda, but not everything what comes from Serbia is propaganda.

if you do not know the difference, I feel sympathy for you.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

wow, Basta, now you´re picking up pace, aren´t you? =)

...by quoting Gandhi you won´t make your point any better, my dear k-albanian friend.

Gandhi was a man of peace, ...some albanians are obsessed with violence. not only killing each other in clan-conflicts, or as a result of some outdated "kanun",

they throw stones at children and women, when not escorted by men,

they are poisoning non-albanian neighbour´s cattle in order to take away his livelihood,

you are using the most stupid propaganda methods in order to present yourself as a victim, since some of your socalled spin-doctors have told you that as a victim, you can make claims for foreign territory.

that´s all so cheapish, ...and you dare to quote Gandhi???

he would start spinning in his grave, if he knew who is quoting him.

that alone shows that you have no clue what you are writing about!

but that´s good, actually, since it convinces me even more that you are going to fail with your little freak creation on our territory!

as long as you are forced to use lies and fabrications, you are weak.

and that means, that you won´t win.

Serbia will win. and with Serbia, all those decent Albanians who are not fanatics, will win too.

but you will be just another frustrated dreamer.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

The Albanians for so long have been playing the pretend innocent victim fake tears in front of the camera don't really know how to react to the organ trade. I suppose this is some sought of attempt?Iight surprised to hear of Albanians being driven murdered ect ect sounds a lot like 98/99, maybe they will fake another Racak in nth mitrovica? Kill some Serbs. Take their organs and then dump them in a whole... Let's face the west is loosing there patience with the K Albs, what were they thinking back in 99? 12 years on they are harvesting the seeds of 99... To all you K Albs, the deaths of a few uck soldiers does not = genocide! Of course there is collaretell damage in all wars, but does not include removing organs. Thanking u so from a very hot and humid Sydney!
(Aussie Of Sydney, 3 February 2011 22:08) Seems like this story really hurts to most of but those family who lost someone you cannot and no one cant ignore and those family's have papers of OWNERSHIPS of they houses this is not just talk or a story as Dick Marty has wrote but happen in the thousands of living eyes...and albanians they will never be in same CUP as serbs are know for they well doing when it comes to the WAR CRIMES...

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Desperation is eating the uck terrorists. This paper should write fantasies for hollywood movies.
(Ratko, 3 February 2011 15:16)
=============================

I'm sure it already is.
Angelina Jolie will star in them no doubt.
The title will be "Serbian minister's Racak massacre".

Jovan

pre 13 godina

@Nikshala:

well, I´ve read it myself, my dear friend, but...the article is about "Koha Ditore" SAYING that it is contained in UNMIK-reports...

Koha Ditore can say a lot, actually.

you can say that KiM is independent as well, I can say that Elvis Presley is still alive, playing poker with J.F.K. and Adolf H. in a secret US- space-station on the dark side of the moon...

everybody can say everything...

I think, you got my point.

The Flying Dutchman

pre 13 godina

@Peggy
You should be ashamed for making fun of one of the greatest human tragedys of the Kosovo-war. 47 Albanians civilians were brutally slaughtered by the Serb forces and thrown into a ditch like if they were animals. Your comment and those of your compatriots prove once again why Kosova should be independent and why there is no way back. As long as Serbs refuse to be confronted with their past, their will never be peace and reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians. 

As for the accusations against Ivanovic, some commentators tend to forget that they come from an UNMIK-report which "Koha Ditore" has in it's posession and is reporting about it. Trying to portray this as "Albanian propaganda" is just a way to deny this horrible crime, as you always do. Imagain what the reactions would have been if the report talked about an Albanian being accused of something like this.

John

pre 13 godina

I was thinking, and I thought of a proposal for Serbia to recognise Kosovo as independent, however it would affect not only the Borders of Serbia, but also of Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro.

1. Thaci, Ceku and Other KLA Commanders are extradicted to the hague
2. Serbian Enclaves and Holy Sights (eg. Kosovo Polje, Granica) remain the territory of the Republic of Serbia.
3. Extra KFOR troops are sent into Kosovo; among them are a small number of Serbian troops to protect any Serbs remaining in parts of Kosovo that do not remain part of Serbia and any monuments that remain within Kosovo's borders
4. Republika Srpska, and the Other region of BIH that is majority Serb, scedes into the Republic of Serbia
5. Bosniak inhabited areas of Serbia and parts of Montenegro are sceded into Bosnia and Herzegovina
6. The Small Serbian majority region in Croatia scedes into Serbia, the Small Croatian Majority region in Serbia scedes into Croatia
7. The regions of Montenegro that voted against Independence/where the majority of the population declare as Serbs scede into Serbia
8. A small region in Serbia east of Kosovo scedes into Kosovo
9. Kosovo Albanian Authorities achknowledge war crimes and that Racak was hoaxed
10. All Human rights granted to any Serbs remaining in Kosovo.

Heres the map I put together
http://img815.imageshack.us/f/blakans.jpg/


Of course not everyone would be pleased with this; Chiefly Montenegro who would lose a huge portion of its territory and and gain none, and secondly Bosnia, which would lose a large part of its territory and gain little. However, if long lasting Balkans stability is wanted then this is a good option as it divides the former Yugoslavia on ethnic, and not Tito's lines. Its also Kosovo's only hope of gaining international recognition and UN membership

Note: I left out changes with Slavic Macedonia-Albania, Slovenia-Croatia and Bosnia-Croatia because i'm not sure of the current situation in those regions.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Prime suspect....not looking good for Serbia.

Sooner or later he'll have to face a judge in Pristina. Guess EU just found another precondition for Serbia. Mladic, recognize Kosovo, and oli now.

John

pre 13 godina

What the Pristina daily fails to mention is that the claims were investigated by UNMIK and they found that they had no basis. As for you Albanians who repetedly state that B92 only publishes propoganda, thats totally false, why would it Publish this article?

Je¿ Galaktyki Gwiezdnyh Wojen

pre 13 godina

"marked Ivanović and former police chief in the north Dragan Delibašić as "chief suspects in the murder of Nderim Ajeti and Neriman Dzaku".

They forgot, he not only killed Neriman Dzaku but also Count Dooku.

Here is the proof:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku

Stefan

pre 13 godina

Even if the organ trafficking was proved to be true ( ridiculous) , this will never equal the crimes committed in Vukovar,Srebrenica and Kosovo by Serbian army, police, paramilitary with the benediction of the orthodox church. Images of walking skeletons in concentration camps will forever stay vivid in people’s memory. The bombardments against Dubrovnik (World heritage), the siege of Sarajevo, the snipers shooting from the hills surrounding the city, the carnage at the Sarajevo market will never be forgotten.
This is real and it did not happened 100 years ago, but just a decade ago. So please don’t act like nothing happened and try to put an equal sign between a state’s well prepared aggression against all its neighbors with the benediction of the “academy of science” and the “holy orthodox church” of Serbia, and the guerrilla fight for survival of KLA and other light armed groups. There is more out there than just reading of cheap propaganda and biased comments in a daily basis. I do read sometimes the articles and comments just to see if there is any improvement in the people’s judgments, but unfortunately I see the same kind of comments which are not contributing in any way to ease the relations between Serb and Albanian civilians. In the contrary the comments are full of hatred. So long my friends

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

I was waiting for that kind of counter-propaganda, and I am astonished how long it took them to invent something like that.

it might be that they are so frustrated and angry that they were not able to come up earlier with that nonsense.

and... it´s not difficult to figure out who is standing behind this Pristina-paper...


someone´s getting nervous I guess. =)
(Jovan, 3 February 2011 14:00)

Thanks, for confirmation that nything that comes from Serbia regarding Kosova, it is a poore propaganda.

Dave

pre 13 godina

I excitedly ran out today and bought all the British papers. After all, this is a big story - a senior Serb official in the Kosovo ministry accused of war crimes should be on all the front pages (together with an abject apology to the Albos that we could ever for a moment have suspected them of any wrongdoing).

And... not a mention. Nothing. Asgjë. ништа. Could it be that the media in this great "friend of Kosova" thinks that the story is a clumsy fiction, conjured up in desperation to deflect attention from allegations made by the rather more credible Council of Europe?

I do believe it could be!

ben

pre 13 godina

It is time that the 15,000 innocent civilians gat some justice: the names of their murderers are known and they must face the justice.

There are still 2,000 K-Albanians missing their killers are known - they must face justice.

The French KFOR must also give some credible answers about why allowing the ehtnic cleansing of the north Mitrovica from over 11,000 Albanians??? Anothet Srebrenica???

How many kidneys have been stolen and sold to these 2,000 missing and 15,000 killed only god knows; but Marty shoudl investigate that as well.

The new investigation if it is international must include ALL crimes commited in Kosova.

See for Oli there are names and surnames of the dead persons; in the Marty/Del Ponte's fanatzy book there is not even a single name.

This is huge difference that only blind racist cannot see.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Who was the author of this story? Walt Disney?
(Marko, 3 February 2011 15:56)

Almost.... your "lovely" UNMIK was the one. Now it is time to write hundreds of articles of this proven massacre. However, I somehow believe that the passion for this is very much limited among them who love unproven reports.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

everything you say is propaganda, but not everything what comes from Serbia is propaganda.
if you do not know the difference, I feel sympathy for you.
(Jovan, 4 February 2011, 14:07)
***
To make it easier for everyone, here is an example:

Serrbia will prrevail, just a question of time.
(Jovan, 3 February 2011 13:57)

You see, that's what propaganda* looks like.

*Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.

Olli

pre 13 godina

Well, let's learn more about this case. If these people were killed there's a perpetrator somewhere. If they were killed there's someone somewhere who knows something.

The first word belongs to UNMIK.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

Sorry Jovan, hasn’t convinced me. But thanks for the effort anyway. Perhaps you should have listened to your own advice:
'as for "Basta"
my dear friends, do not fall for those cheap attempts by some of our k-albanian friends to post provocations under foreign nick-names (Jovan, 3 February 2011, 13:57)'

Btw: 'enjoy you yellow-papers in down-town pristina as long as you can! the day will come that you will be quite upset about reality. that´s an opinion, by the way... =)' No, wrong again, that is an open threat.

lili

pre 13 godina

these accusations were known from the beginning.
for peace seeks,unmik and kosovo politicians choose to ignore them,and even take a decision to forbid any publication of these ,even when people did testify publikly.Now that you chose to come back to these past time,we too choose to testify with names and data for what serbs have done.
the war is not over ,of course!

Free consultation

pre 13 godina

"State secretary is murder suspect"

All suspects of crimes should be investigated by proper authorities and if incriminating evidence is found they should be arrested and stand trial,which is the norm in all civilized societies. Does anybody here see or have a problem with that?
If anybody does,let me know which part of my comment you didn't understand as I'll be checking in for your questions.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

Quod erat demonstrandum!

If only you would have understood the quotation... But you still don't get it, do you? First you made a public call to ignore me (first they ignore you), then you tried to ridicule me (then they laugh at you) and now you are being aggressive and rude (then they fight you …). You are so predictable. One only has to push the right button and you jump…

kebekos

pre 13 godina

As for you Albanians who repetedly state that B92 only publishes propoganda, thats totally false, why would it Publish this article?
(John, 4 February 2011 20:22)

Because they are interested in your comments and not mine.

Basta!

pre 13 godina

and what´s best, ..you still haven´t realized that you make yourself look quite foolish by doing so.
by the way, was this article above also a threat for you? =)
if so, go see the doctor!
(Jovan, 5 February 2011, 20:05)
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