Swiss MPs back Marty, seek probe

All excuses will be removed very soon, and then show the evidence or pay the price for the lies.
(IOP, 2 February 2011 10:22)
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Do you people know anything beside threats?
Everyone has decided that his is worth investigating again (first one resulted in evidence being destroyed) and here you are so sure it's all lies and someone is going to punish them all. Who is going to punish them all?

Are you so confident that all evidence was destroyed the first time and there is nothing more to find?

Poor KiM Albanians. Many remind me of kids in the back seat of a car repeating "Are we there yet, are we there yet?" while having no idea where they are on the map.

"Where's the evidence, where's the evidence?" while having no idea of an investigation process. All in due time my friends, it will come out but a bit of patience first.

I can see that Marty knows the game well and he will not put his two year investigation at risk of being sabotaged by a group of goons. Lets get the witnesses under protection ASAP and form an independent investigative team that has loyalty to truth and justice instead of geopolitical goals.

We Serbians have been through this process many times. We know pretty much all investigations were biased against us for the past 20 years and this is finally coming out. Now KiM Albanians are getting a taste of their own medicine but they don't seem to like it? Hmmm.....

Anyway, lets hope next will be NATO and Western leaders such as Clinton, Bush and Bliar under investigation. We also know they are war criminals of the worst kind. However, I have a feeling they'll try to hide under their immunity.

This the answer to some k trolls pretending that Mr Marty was rejected and abandoned back home ! Mrs Calmy Rey was the one that hurried to recon Kosovo and most probably she has some more informations that Mr Marty is, for obvious reasons, not ready to make public !!

Mr/Ms Tung, just be patient, and allow the investigative and judicial processes to unfold (in the KLA organ-harvesting allegations), before you cry for evidence, now.! There are quite a few more issues to address before any sort of evidence to Marty's findings can be presented. You cannot be that dumb, not to understand that witnesses must be guaranteed safety in all respects first, before they can be brought forward to testify. They, are the evidence. I understand that this KLA organ-harvesting matter is a horrible black eye to Albanians and "Kosova" everywhere, but be patient and allow justice to unfold. If the KLA and Thaci are clean, Albanians will have redemption, if the KLA was in deed guilty of these heinous crimes, then their image, and the ones that supported them, will be forever viewed as filthy and despicable.

Boring!

Everybody and I mean everybody (not only country and institutions but also independant organisations, ...) are requesting investigation.

Until today we haven't seen proof or any evidence even when asked several times to Mr Dick M. for providing these evidences.

I have no problem that if this has happened that the involved people are brought before justice if these crimes have been commited.

2 things however:

1. Moderate Serbs have been indoctrinated by this daily articles in the Serb media that if you would ask them if the Albanians/illyriers are guilty. They would all say yes. And this without any proof.


2. You Serbs want to use this so-called organ-trafficing for easing your own consience for the horrible and unnumerous crimes you have commited all over the Balkans.

Tung

Poor Switzerland, they will get such a black eye on this. Not to mention US and EU all over them (already are pissed about tax cheaters)

All excuses will be removed very soon, and then show the evidence or pay the price for the lies.

Thanx Switzerland. I'm sure the huge Albanian population you imptorted and inadvertently trained on your freedom-loving soil will be heart-brolen. Consider your support of Serbia to be your REDEMPTION

"Poor KiM Albanians."

No need to patronize. Kosovo has more class, thats why they want the evidence.
If you cant provide it, you are just being a jealous old lady that just yaps.

Innocent until proven guilty.
Change my mind with facts .

"Many remind me of kids in the back seat of a car repeating "Are we there yet, are we there yet?" while having no idea where they are on the map. "

What are you talking about? We know were we are, exactly were we left of with Carlas fiction book.I hope you know Rambo and the Brasilian teledramas are fake


"Where's the evidence, where's the evidence?"

So were is it?

"while having no idea of an investigation process."

Right, at least pick up a book before you become another sheeple.

"All in due time my friends, it will come out but a bit of patience first."


"I can see' that Marty knows the game well and he will not put his two year investigation at risk of being sabotaged by a group of goons."

Great opinion, opinion, opinion useless.

"Lets get the witnesses under protection ASAP and form an independent investigative team that has loyalty to truth and justice instead of geopolitical goals."

Oh the hero Serb, using words as loyalty and justice, independent and team.

ICJ was great for that, than the usual "victim" bs followed.

"We know pretty much all investigations were biased against us for the past 20 years and this is finally coming out."

Still waiting for 2 highly wanted war criminals...

"Now KiM Albanians are getting a taste of their own medicine"

What are you on about here??

"but they don't seem to like it? Hmmm....."

"Anyway, lets hope"
"We also know"
"I have a feeling"

Dont you see you are brainwashing yourself?

Who of both is more credible?
(Top, 2 February 2011 18:29)

Don't ask such a difficult question... do you expect people with head in the sand to answer ? hummmm

Let's make a simple example. There are two Chinese men. One of them has a proven track record in finding out about secret illegal activities that have been hidden by highest state officials and nobody was believing that it could have happened in the beginning. The other one has a track record of being involved in drug dealing, money laundry, weapon smuggling.

Who of both is more credible?

Dont you see you are brainwashing yourself?
(Drownanotherday, 2 February 2011 16:57)
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OK Drownanotherday, you win. You took my comment and mutilated it bit by bit.

The thing is though, if I agreed with you then we would both be wrong.

"Oh the hero Serb, using words as loyalty and justice, independent and team."

@drown...

you seem to be upset, my dear k-albanian friend.

well, justice is a nice word, isn´t it?

it´s intersting that some k-albanians are feeling the need for ironical remarks here..

while some mislead kiddies in southern Serbia still see Mr.Touchy as a hero.

you should really keep that in mind, before getting ironic... since it is the socalled KLA, formerly known as terrorists, that is under the suspicion of having butchered humans in order to sell their organs...what is so disgusting that ...irony should be the last thing on this planet for you to reach out for.

seems like somenone still has not grasped the implications of this crime.

well, we will see.

Let's make a simple example. There are two Chinese men. One of them has a proven track record in finding out about secret illegal activities that have been hidden by highest state officials and nobody was believing that it could have happened in the beginning. The other one has a track record of being involved in drug dealing, money laundry, weapon smuggling.

Who of both is more credible?
(Top, 2 February 2011 18:29)

I don't trust any Chinese. But since you like chinese analogies I have this analogy for you:
There are two Chinese citizens, one is a Han the other Tibetian. The Han Chinese come to Tibetian's home and robs hims of his possessions. Then the Han and his millions other fellow Hans routinely take over Tibetians' jobs trying to establish a Han Majority in Tibet. the Tibetian revolt but are crushed with impunity by the Central Chinese Government which happens to be Han and the Han dominated army.
Do the Tibetians deserve independence?

Thanks.

Do the Tibetians deserve independence?
(Zoti, 3 February 2011 00:01)

I think they do. But what does independence have to do with investigations in a crime case?

Who of both is more credible?
(Top, 2 February 2011 18:29)

Wrong question, wrong analogy :). You are assuming one has to believe to either one or the other. The real issue is that if one chinese man says something that must be proved, it does not matter how more credible or not he is than the other chinese. It is for the judges to decide whose version is more credible. If the version of the first chinese man, the one with the proven record, ever gains enough credibility to go in court that is. You, as a spectator a bit obsessed with the second chinese man can believe whatever you want though :). Me, as another spectator, am waiting this out :).

I don't trust any Chinese. But since you like chinese analogies I have this analogy for you:
There are two Chinese citizens, one is a Han the other Tibetian. The Han Chinese come to Tibetian's home and robs hims of his possessions. Then the Han and his millions other fellow Hans routinely take over Tibetians' jobs trying to establish a Han Majority in Tibet. the Tibetian revolt but are crushed with impunity by the Central Chinese Government which happens to be Han and the Han dominated army.
Do the Tibetians deserve independence?

Thanks.
(Zoti, 3 February 2011 00:01)

Ok now for Kosovo, there are 2 types of people in Kosovo; Non Albanians and Albanians, the non Albanians have lived there since the 7th Century, small amounts of albanians turned up in the 14th century, then in WW2 the SS Skandeberg runs through non Albanian towns killing everyone in its path, after thousands are killed and most of the rest flee the Albanians gain the majority in the region, Those who fled are not allowed to return to their spiritual homeland. In the 1980s Albanians begin attacks against non Albanians, causing more to flee, eventually the Govt is forced to send troops in to deal with the problem , suddenly tales of 500,000 Albanians being killed by the army hits the western media, so they bomb, after thats over the final body count is 3000, nearly all of them soldiers and racak is found to be a hoax, at this point the Albanians begin kidnapping hundreds of non Albanians and even taking the organs of some for sale. The remaining non Albanians are put in ghettos not dissimilar to the ones the jews of ww2 had to endure. And all trace of the 1300 year presence in the province is destroyed. The prime minister is the head of this

Does Kosovo deserve to be a state?

Boring!

Everybody and I mean everybody (not only country and institutions but also independant organisations, ...) are requesting investigation.

Until today we haven't seen proof or any evidence even when asked several times to Mr Dick M. for providing these evidences.

I have no problem that if this has happened that the involved people are brought before justice if these crimes have been commited.

2 things however:

1. Moderate Serbs have been indoctrinated by this daily articles in the Serb media that if you would ask them if the Albanians/illyriers are guilty. They would all say yes. And this without any proof.


2. You Serbs want to use this so-called organ-trafficing for easing your own consience for the horrible and unnumerous crimes you have commited all over the Balkans.

Tung

Poor Switzerland, they will get such a black eye on this. Not to mention US and EU all over them (already are pissed about tax cheaters)

All excuses will be removed very soon, and then show the evidence or pay the price for the lies.

"Poor KiM Albanians."

No need to patronize. Kosovo has more class, thats why they want the evidence.
If you cant provide it, you are just being a jealous old lady that just yaps.

Innocent until proven guilty.
Change my mind with facts .

"Many remind me of kids in the back seat of a car repeating "Are we there yet, are we there yet?" while having no idea where they are on the map. "

What are you talking about? We know were we are, exactly were we left of with Carlas fiction book.I hope you know Rambo and the Brasilian teledramas are fake


"Where's the evidence, where's the evidence?"

So were is it?

"while having no idea of an investigation process."

Right, at least pick up a book before you become another sheeple.

"All in due time my friends, it will come out but a bit of patience first."


"I can see' that Marty knows the game well and he will not put his two year investigation at risk of being sabotaged by a group of goons."

Great opinion, opinion, opinion useless.

"Lets get the witnesses under protection ASAP and form an independent investigative team that has loyalty to truth and justice instead of geopolitical goals."

Oh the hero Serb, using words as loyalty and justice, independent and team.

ICJ was great for that, than the usual "victim" bs followed.

"We know pretty much all investigations were biased against us for the past 20 years and this is finally coming out."

Still waiting for 2 highly wanted war criminals...

"Now KiM Albanians are getting a taste of their own medicine"

What are you on about here??

"but they don't seem to like it? Hmmm....."

"Anyway, lets hope"
"We also know"
"I have a feeling"

Dont you see you are brainwashing yourself?

Poor KiM Albanians. Many remind me of kids in the back seat of a car repeating "Are we there yet, are we there yet?" while having no idea where they are on the map.

"Where's the evidence, where's the evidence?" while having no idea of an investigation process. All in due time my friends, it will come out but a bit of patience first.

I can see that Marty knows the game well and he will not put his two year investigation at risk of being sabotaged by a group of goons. Lets get the witnesses under protection ASAP and form an independent investigative team that has loyalty to truth and justice instead of geopolitical goals.

We Serbians have been through this process many times. We know pretty much all investigations were biased against us for the past 20 years and this is finally coming out. Now KiM Albanians are getting a taste of their own medicine but they don't seem to like it? Hmmm.....

Anyway, lets hope next will be NATO and Western leaders such as Clinton, Bush and Bliar under investigation. We also know they are war criminals of the worst kind. However, I have a feeling they'll try to hide under their immunity.

This the answer to some k trolls pretending that Mr Marty was rejected and abandoned back home ! Mrs Calmy Rey was the one that hurried to recon Kosovo and most probably she has some more informations that Mr Marty is, for obvious reasons, not ready to make public !!

Thanx Switzerland. I'm sure the huge Albanian population you imptorted and inadvertently trained on your freedom-loving soil will be heart-brolen. Consider your support of Serbia to be your REDEMPTION

Mr/Ms Tung, just be patient, and allow the investigative and judicial processes to unfold (in the KLA organ-harvesting allegations), before you cry for evidence, now.! There are quite a few more issues to address before any sort of evidence to Marty's findings can be presented. You cannot be that dumb, not to understand that witnesses must be guaranteed safety in all respects first, before they can be brought forward to testify. They, are the evidence. I understand that this KLA organ-harvesting matter is a horrible black eye to Albanians and "Kosova" everywhere, but be patient and allow justice to unfold. If the KLA and Thaci are clean, Albanians will have redemption, if the KLA was in deed guilty of these heinous crimes, then their image, and the ones that supported them, will be forever viewed as filthy and despicable.

Let's make a simple example. There are two Chinese men. One of them has a proven track record in finding out about secret illegal activities that have been hidden by highest state officials and nobody was believing that it could have happened in the beginning. The other one has a track record of being involved in drug dealing, money laundry, weapon smuggling.

Who of both is more credible?

Who of both is more credible?
(Top, 2 February 2011 18:29)

Don't ask such a difficult question... do you expect people with head in the sand to answer ? hummmm

Let's make a simple example. There are two Chinese men. One of them has a proven track record in finding out about secret illegal activities that have been hidden by highest state officials and nobody was believing that it could have happened in the beginning. The other one has a track record of being involved in drug dealing, money laundry, weapon smuggling.

Who of both is more credible?
(Top, 2 February 2011 18:29)

I don't trust any Chinese. But since you like chinese analogies I have this analogy for you:
There are two Chinese citizens, one is a Han the other Tibetian. The Han Chinese come to Tibetian's home and robs hims of his possessions. Then the Han and his millions other fellow Hans routinely take over Tibetians' jobs trying to establish a Han Majority in Tibet. the Tibetian revolt but are crushed with impunity by the Central Chinese Government which happens to be Han and the Han dominated army.
Do the Tibetians deserve independence?

Thanks.

All excuses will be removed very soon, and then show the evidence or pay the price for the lies.
(IOP, 2 February 2011 10:22)
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Do you people know anything beside threats?
Everyone has decided that his is worth investigating again (first one resulted in evidence being destroyed) and here you are so sure it's all lies and someone is going to punish them all. Who is going to punish them all?

Are you so confident that all evidence was destroyed the first time and there is nothing more to find?

Dont you see you are brainwashing yourself?
(Drownanotherday, 2 February 2011 16:57)
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OK Drownanotherday, you win. You took my comment and mutilated it bit by bit.

The thing is though, if I agreed with you then we would both be wrong.

"Oh the hero Serb, using words as loyalty and justice, independent and team."

@drown...

you seem to be upset, my dear k-albanian friend.

well, justice is a nice word, isn´t it?

it´s intersting that some k-albanians are feeling the need for ironical remarks here..

while some mislead kiddies in southern Serbia still see Mr.Touchy as a hero.

you should really keep that in mind, before getting ironic... since it is the socalled KLA, formerly known as terrorists, that is under the suspicion of having butchered humans in order to sell their organs...what is so disgusting that ...irony should be the last thing on this planet for you to reach out for.

seems like somenone still has not grasped the implications of this crime.

well, we will see.

Do the Tibetians deserve independence?
(Zoti, 3 February 2011 00:01)

I think they do. But what does independence have to do with investigations in a crime case?

Who of both is more credible?
(Top, 2 February 2011 18:29)

Wrong question, wrong analogy :). You are assuming one has to believe to either one or the other. The real issue is that if one chinese man says something that must be proved, it does not matter how more credible or not he is than the other chinese. It is for the judges to decide whose version is more credible. If the version of the first chinese man, the one with the proven record, ever gains enough credibility to go in court that is. You, as a spectator a bit obsessed with the second chinese man can believe whatever you want though :). Me, as another spectator, am waiting this out :).

I don't trust any Chinese. But since you like chinese analogies I have this analogy for you:
There are two Chinese citizens, one is a Han the other Tibetian. The Han Chinese come to Tibetian's home and robs hims of his possessions. Then the Han and his millions other fellow Hans routinely take over Tibetians' jobs trying to establish a Han Majority in Tibet. the Tibetian revolt but are crushed with impunity by the Central Chinese Government which happens to be Han and the Han dominated army.
Do the Tibetians deserve independence?

Thanks.
(Zoti, 3 February 2011 00:01)

Ok now for Kosovo, there are 2 types of people in Kosovo; Non Albanians and Albanians, the non Albanians have lived there since the 7th Century, small amounts of albanians turned up in the 14th century, then in WW2 the SS Skandeberg runs through non Albanian towns killing everyone in its path, after thousands are killed and most of the rest flee the Albanians gain the majority in the region, Those who fled are not allowed to return to their spiritual homeland. In the 1980s Albanians begin attacks against non Albanians, causing more to flee, eventually the Govt is forced to send troops in to deal with the problem , suddenly tales of 500,000 Albanians being killed by the army hits the western media, so they bomb, after thats over the final body count is 3000, nearly all of them soldiers and racak is found to be a hoax, at this point the Albanians begin kidnapping hundreds of non Albanians and even taking the organs of some for sale. The remaining non Albanians are put in ghettos not dissimilar to the ones the jews of ww2 had to endure. And all trace of the 1300 year presence in the province is destroyed. The prime minister is the head of this

Does Kosovo deserve to be a state?