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Saturday, 29.01.2011.

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Marty, EULEX discuss witness protection

Council of Europe (CoE) Rapporteur Dick Marty is negotiating witness protection guarantees with EULEX, it has been confirmed.

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pss

pre 13 godina

(John, 1 February 2011 19:14)
Pure evil? I hope for you the best life possible, but I am afraid that even in a totally different land you are doomed to a dismal future.

John

pre 13 godina

If you peruse my comments since being on this site you will see that these are not my words nor my thoughts!
I do not condemn the people of Serbia as a whole, and I wish no ill will against any, however, I do think the people of Kosovo deserve independence from Serbia.
As far as Thaci's connection to organized crime, probably true, but is not Milosevic's own family in exile hiding from warrants steming from their involvement in the so called cigarette mafia.
Involvement in a huge organ harvesting scheme in Kosovo and Albania? Was it thought of-I don't know, was it possible to carry out-absolutely no.
(pss, 1 February 2011 14:49)

You are either brainwashed, ignorant, seriously misguided or pure evil if you think that Kosovo deserves independence from Serbia, the evidence that organ trafficking took place is overwhelming. Of course it was possible to carry out, and the fact that foriegn nationals have been arrested for organ trafficking in the same region shows that it can carried out. And its clear to anyone that the Albanians had far more rights in 1999 then the Serbs do now (eg, freedom of movement, basic needs such as water), Albanian schools even teach the students to hate Serbs, not dissimilar to the Nazi's teachings on the Jews. No other government in Europe currently has any policy like that

pss

pre 13 godina

@ Those numbers most certainly did, why do you think nearly 3 times as many Albanians have been prosecuted/issued arrest warrants for War Crimes in the Kosovo war then Serbs. Serbian forces didnt decapitate KLA fighters, chop out unborn babies from their mothers stomachs or kidnap and kill soley for the sale of organs, even Dr Mengele would be discusted by that, let alone me.

In what court system is this??
According to 100% of the Serbian posters here the Hague is a "NATO" court that only prosecutes Serbians.
If you are speaking of the Serbian court system you have just answered why.
You say the Albanian claims are propaganda, the Albanians say your claims are propaganda. I base my opinion on direct conversations I had with victims of the war, and facts that are not denied by either side. Like the closing of Albanian schools and closing of state factories that employed Albanians in Kosovo during the 90's.
All the atrocities you mention, I have heard as being committed by Serbs to the Albanians. So which do I believe? Some of each side.

If you peruse my comments since being on this site you will see that these are not my words nor my thoughts!
I do not condemn the people of Serbia as a whole, and I wish no ill will against any, however, I do think the people of Kosovo deserve independence from Serbia.
As far as Thaci's connection to organized crime, probably true, but is not Milosevic's own family in exile hiding from warrants steming from their involvement in the so called cigarette mafia.
Involvement in a huge organ harvesting scheme in Kosovo and Albania? Was it thought of-I don't know, was it possible to carry out-absolutely no.

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

No need for witness protection in Kosova. Serbian spy's will die the death of a traitor, either as drunken bums on the street or by their own hand, this is the destiny of a self-hating turncoat who's word is bought and sold like the cheapest of commodities.

John

pre 13 godina

1. I knew you were referring to me as being ignorant, but you know that is a typical reaction of your side in that in the absence of concrete arguments you result to personal attacks and try to beat down your opponent. But that only makes you feel good, it matters not to me.

Give me any intellectual argument and we'll win it, I only called you ignorant after you refused to believe the examples used and brushed it off as propoganda, despite the evidence. If you want to go back to the more traditional "The Dick; You Serbitches should kill yourself" ect, then feel free, but it wont solve anything.

2. Not Albanian by blood or marriage and my opinion comes from research from both sides(had no preformed opinion prior to 2006), and I do not think all Albanians are saints, but I do think that a lot of what happened was a reaction to an action.

@ What do you mean reaction to an action?
Yugoslav troops were only sent into the province after hundreds if not thousands of attacks on Kosovo's Serbs

3. Were there probable war crimes committed by Albanians yes I am sure there were. Do they even come close to the numbers of those committed by the Serbians, definitely not.

@ Those numbers most certainly did, why do you think nearly 3 times as many Albanians have been prosecuted/issued arrest warrants for War Crimes in the Kosovo war then Serbs. Serbian forces didnt decapitate KLA fighters, chop out unborn babies from their mothers stomachs or kidnap and kill soley for the sale of organs, even Dr Mengele would be discusted by that, let alone me.

4. I have not lied about anything, I choose to use my initials and not my name but that is irrelavant.

@ You suggested I put in a false name so that I would look like a better liar showing that you believe lying to be a part of everyday life. I however, do not lie.

5. You on the other hand were raised from birth to hate the Albanians, Your views are one sided and skewed, to you they may represent the truth but if you cannot see the viewpoint from the other side, why do you criticize those who do not see yours?

@ I was not taught to hate the Albanians, I lived alongside Albanians until 1999, and I'm now living in a Western nation (New Zealand) where any media Kosovo related is Pro-Albanian. However, anyone who has seen both sides of the story will notice a disturbing trend; that it was built by propogdanda eg: the non existant Racak Massacre, Operation Horseshoe ect, and they can prove it too.

You have done a lot of work to develop your website and I commend you on the dedication, but in the end it just comes down to one view of a situation based on personal prejudices and emotion.
(pss, 31 January 2011 15:25)

pss

pre 13 godina

(John, 31 January 2011 01:11)
1. I knew you were referring to me as being ignorant, but you know that is a typical reaction of your side in that in the absence of concrete arguments you result to personal attacks and try to beat down your opponent. But that only makes you feel good, it matters not to me.
2. Not Albanian by blood or marriage and my opinion comes from research from both sides(had no preformed opinion prior to 2006), and I do not think all Albanians are saints, but I do think that a lot of what happened was a reaction to an action.
3. Were there probable war crimes committed by Albanians yes I am sure there were. Do they even come close to the numbers of those committed by the Serbians, definitely not.
4. I have not lied about anything, I choose to use my initials and not my name but that is irrelavant.
5. You on the other hand were raised from birth to hate the Albanians, Your views are one sided and skewed, to you they may represent the truth but if you cannot see the viewpoint from the other side, why do you criticize those who do not see yours?
You have done a lot of work to develop your website and I commend you on the dedication, but in the end it just comes down to one view of a situation based on personal prejudices and emotion.

John

pre 13 godina

John, you guage by votes here, how many of those 57 were self done? What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics. My Albanian is limited, I know good morning, thank you, etc, never learned ignorance but I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda. I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was, and liveing 4000 miles away would it really matter?
(pss, 30 January 2011 22:39)

@How many of those 57 were self done? A grand total of Zero

@What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics? Such as yourself?

B92 is a moderate media source within Serbia, which unlike some of the others; doesnt post one sided stories. If you want to read some nationalistic comments, theres a small minority of nationalistic posters on Serbianna.

@I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda

And there rest my case; more ignorance. I was informing you of your ignorance and its not without good reason. You and the other Albanian posters continue to believe that you were innocent victims, no matter how much evidence is thrown in your direction proving otherwise, you refuse to believe very credible pieces of information (Eg. Dick Marty's report) and somehow believe in laughable examples of propoganda from your own side (Eg. Thaci's claim that there is an anti independence network run by the KGB and Putin).

@I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was

You suggested that I lie and put in several false names, I however, unlike you, do not lie, it ruins credibility.

pss

pre 13 godina

That must be the case when you have 57 up signs and 6 negatives (the negatives coming from the usual Albanian propoganda posters).

I dont need to put in a false name because unlike you, I dont see a need to lie.

Tell me; how do you say 'Ignorance' in Albanian
(John, 30 January 2011 21:37)
John, John, you guage by votes here, how many of those 57 were self done? What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics. My Albanian is limited, I know good morning, thank you, etc, never learned ignorance but I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda. I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was, and liveing 4000 miles away would it really matter?

John

pre 13 godina

Interesting little site you put together but kind of the same typical propaganda you see every day.
There is enough there to reassure the nationalists that they are right in their hatred of the Albanians and that innocent Serbia was targeted by the corrupt west. But nothing there that would convince anyone else.
At least you could have mixed it up a little and show things "by" Frank, George or Ralph instead of making it a one man show of postings "by John"
Oh and the request for donations is a good touch too.
(pss, 30 January 2011 15:40)

That must be the case when you have 57 up signs and 6 negatives (the negatives coming from the usual Albanian propoganda posters).

I dont need to put in a false name because unlike you, I dont see a need to lie.

Tell me; how do you say 'Ignorance' in Albanian

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)


You keep talking about McDonald, and I keep asking you where is the beef. Once again A-.... , where is the beef?

pss

pre 13 godina

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)
Recommend (+3)Poor comment (-
Interesting little site you put together but kind of the same typical propaganda you see every day.
There is enough there to reassure the nationalists that they are right in their hatred of the Albanians and that innocent Serbia was targeted by the corrupt west. But nothing there that would convince anyone else.
At least you could have mixed it up a little and show things "by" Frank, George or Ralph instead of making it a one man show of postings "by John"
Oh and the request for donations is a good touch too.

Rob

pre 13 godina

'Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed.'
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)

John, you have been misinformed. The following is a statement about the Haradinaj trial from the ICTY, 16 April 2008.

'Meantime, allow me to revisit the particular issue of witness protection that has been systematically misrepresented in Serbia. Contrary to the misinformation placed in the public realm by Serbian officials, allegations that witnesses who testified in this case were killed are simply untrue. The Trial Chamber clearly stated that the proceedings were held in an atmosphere where witnesses felt unsafe. To extrapolate from that assessment that numerous witnesses were killed is bogus and inaccurate.'

Hope that clears it up for you :)

John

pre 13 godina

The end is near for this 'person,' he no longer talks about 'organ trafficking,' in fact he almost stopped an interview when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.
(boooomerang, 29 January 2011 16:05)

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Big deal, still nothing else that Carla has not said in the fiction.
It just proves how foolish some people are who feed them-selfs the poison they prepare for others.
============================

Amazing how the world is eager to investigate "fiction".
Looks like only Albanians are calling this report fiction and the rest of the world finds it credible enough. How did this happen?

pss

pre 13 godina

Dont hold your breath:
[link]
(Higherduke, 29 January 2011 15:34)
If one researched they could find an opinion to support any position in the world. Your position is baseless, no one has given up on the independent Kosovo, even if some leaders fall. And that is an "if". Serbia will never have the cahnce to scourge Kosovo again.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.
(boooomerang, 29 January 2011 16:05)

Don't worry, Mr Marty will come up with what is needed in due time, when he will have obtained the necessary guarantees that the witnesses will be not wipe out like we have seen before.
It is also certainly not your criminal gang's insults that will stop him to do his jog professionaly like he always did.
Just keep on spitting on him, who is expecting anyway to have a civilized behaviour coming out of this messy place !

Drownanotherday

pre 13 godina

Dont hold your breath:
[link]
(Higherduke
Global Research, January 24, 2011
Nova Srpska Politicka Misao - 2011-01-10

Big deal, still nothing else that Carla has not said in the fiction.
It just proves how foolish some people are who feed them-selfs the poison they prepare for others.

as for the artcle:
Maybe marty wants to protect a plant, give it a name a background story feelings and obviously a way so he can keep the "investigator" "job" money, but still continue profiting on bliss of ignorance.

Great idea

pre 13 godina

PM Thaqi, BAN THE BIGOTS please.
(Murray, 29 January 2011 15:30)

How would you go about banning almost the entire province? Give the man some ideas, don't just leave him "hanging"

boooomerang

pre 13 godina

The end is near for this 'person,' he no longer talks about 'organ trafficking,' in fact he almost stopped an interview when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.

pss

pre 13 godina

People laughed at me before the mission started when I said that EULEX would end up a de facto branch of MUP. A year later it was obvious even to many Albanians. Now it's plain as day, so Kostunica's hysteric anti-EULEX rants about how co-operation meant 'capitulation' were empty.
(highduke, 29 January 2011 13:12)
Your still missing the boat by a long shot! But hey if you and the nationalists are happy believing in your fantasies, great, keeps you pacified and out of the way.

highduke

pre 13 godina

People laughed at me before the mission started when I said that EULEX would end up a de facto branch of MUP. A year later it was obvious even to many Albanians. Now it's plain as day, so Kostunica's hysteric anti-EULEX rants about how co-operation meant 'capitulation' were empty.

John

pre 13 godina

The end is near for this 'person,' he no longer talks about 'organ trafficking,' in fact he almost stopped an interview when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.
(boooomerang, 29 January 2011 16:05)

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.
(boooomerang, 29 January 2011 16:05)

Don't worry, Mr Marty will come up with what is needed in due time, when he will have obtained the necessary guarantees that the witnesses will be not wipe out like we have seen before.
It is also certainly not your criminal gang's insults that will stop him to do his jog professionaly like he always did.
Just keep on spitting on him, who is expecting anyway to have a civilized behaviour coming out of this messy place !

highduke

pre 13 godina

People laughed at me before the mission started when I said that EULEX would end up a de facto branch of MUP. A year later it was obvious even to many Albanians. Now it's plain as day, so Kostunica's hysteric anti-EULEX rants about how co-operation meant 'capitulation' were empty.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Big deal, still nothing else that Carla has not said in the fiction.
It just proves how foolish some people are who feed them-selfs the poison they prepare for others.
============================

Amazing how the world is eager to investigate "fiction".
Looks like only Albanians are calling this report fiction and the rest of the world finds it credible enough. How did this happen?

pss

pre 13 godina

People laughed at me before the mission started when I said that EULEX would end up a de facto branch of MUP. A year later it was obvious even to many Albanians. Now it's plain as day, so Kostunica's hysteric anti-EULEX rants about how co-operation meant 'capitulation' were empty.
(highduke, 29 January 2011 13:12)
Your still missing the boat by a long shot! But hey if you and the nationalists are happy believing in your fantasies, great, keeps you pacified and out of the way.

boooomerang

pre 13 godina

The end is near for this 'person,' he no longer talks about 'organ trafficking,' in fact he almost stopped an interview when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.

pss

pre 13 godina

Dont hold your breath:
[link]
(Higherduke, 29 January 2011 15:34)
If one researched they could find an opinion to support any position in the world. Your position is baseless, no one has given up on the independent Kosovo, even if some leaders fall. And that is an "if". Serbia will never have the cahnce to scourge Kosovo again.

Drownanotherday

pre 13 godina

Dont hold your breath:
[link]
(Higherduke
Global Research, January 24, 2011
Nova Srpska Politicka Misao - 2011-01-10

Big deal, still nothing else that Carla has not said in the fiction.
It just proves how foolish some people are who feed them-selfs the poison they prepare for others.

as for the artcle:
Maybe marty wants to protect a plant, give it a name a background story feelings and obviously a way so he can keep the "investigator" "job" money, but still continue profiting on bliss of ignorance.

John

pre 13 godina

Interesting little site you put together but kind of the same typical propaganda you see every day.
There is enough there to reassure the nationalists that they are right in their hatred of the Albanians and that innocent Serbia was targeted by the corrupt west. But nothing there that would convince anyone else.
At least you could have mixed it up a little and show things "by" Frank, George or Ralph instead of making it a one man show of postings "by John"
Oh and the request for donations is a good touch too.
(pss, 30 January 2011 15:40)

That must be the case when you have 57 up signs and 6 negatives (the negatives coming from the usual Albanian propoganda posters).

I dont need to put in a false name because unlike you, I dont see a need to lie.

Tell me; how do you say 'Ignorance' in Albanian

pss

pre 13 godina

That must be the case when you have 57 up signs and 6 negatives (the negatives coming from the usual Albanian propoganda posters).

I dont need to put in a false name because unlike you, I dont see a need to lie.

Tell me; how do you say 'Ignorance' in Albanian
(John, 30 January 2011 21:37)
John, John, you guage by votes here, how many of those 57 were self done? What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics. My Albanian is limited, I know good morning, thank you, etc, never learned ignorance but I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda. I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was, and liveing 4000 miles away would it really matter?

Great idea

pre 13 godina

PM Thaqi, BAN THE BIGOTS please.
(Murray, 29 January 2011 15:30)

How would you go about banning almost the entire province? Give the man some ideas, don't just leave him "hanging"

Rob

pre 13 godina

'Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed.'
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)

John, you have been misinformed. The following is a statement about the Haradinaj trial from the ICTY, 16 April 2008.

'Meantime, allow me to revisit the particular issue of witness protection that has been systematically misrepresented in Serbia. Contrary to the misinformation placed in the public realm by Serbian officials, allegations that witnesses who testified in this case were killed are simply untrue. The Trial Chamber clearly stated that the proceedings were held in an atmosphere where witnesses felt unsafe. To extrapolate from that assessment that numerous witnesses were killed is bogus and inaccurate.'

Hope that clears it up for you :)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)


You keep talking about McDonald, and I keep asking you where is the beef. Once again A-.... , where is the beef?

John

pre 13 godina

John, you guage by votes here, how many of those 57 were self done? What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics. My Albanian is limited, I know good morning, thank you, etc, never learned ignorance but I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda. I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was, and liveing 4000 miles away would it really matter?
(pss, 30 January 2011 22:39)

@How many of those 57 were self done? A grand total of Zero

@What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics? Such as yourself?

B92 is a moderate media source within Serbia, which unlike some of the others; doesnt post one sided stories. If you want to read some nationalistic comments, theres a small minority of nationalistic posters on Serbianna.

@I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda

And there rest my case; more ignorance. I was informing you of your ignorance and its not without good reason. You and the other Albanian posters continue to believe that you were innocent victims, no matter how much evidence is thrown in your direction proving otherwise, you refuse to believe very credible pieces of information (Eg. Dick Marty's report) and somehow believe in laughable examples of propoganda from your own side (Eg. Thaci's claim that there is an anti independence network run by the KGB and Putin).

@I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was

You suggested that I lie and put in several false names, I however, unlike you, do not lie, it ruins credibility.

pss

pre 13 godina

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)
Recommend (+3)Poor comment (-
Interesting little site you put together but kind of the same typical propaganda you see every day.
There is enough there to reassure the nationalists that they are right in their hatred of the Albanians and that innocent Serbia was targeted by the corrupt west. But nothing there that would convince anyone else.
At least you could have mixed it up a little and show things "by" Frank, George or Ralph instead of making it a one man show of postings "by John"
Oh and the request for donations is a good touch too.

pss

pre 13 godina

@ Those numbers most certainly did, why do you think nearly 3 times as many Albanians have been prosecuted/issued arrest warrants for War Crimes in the Kosovo war then Serbs. Serbian forces didnt decapitate KLA fighters, chop out unborn babies from their mothers stomachs or kidnap and kill soley for the sale of organs, even Dr Mengele would be discusted by that, let alone me.

In what court system is this??
According to 100% of the Serbian posters here the Hague is a "NATO" court that only prosecutes Serbians.
If you are speaking of the Serbian court system you have just answered why.
You say the Albanian claims are propaganda, the Albanians say your claims are propaganda. I base my opinion on direct conversations I had with victims of the war, and facts that are not denied by either side. Like the closing of Albanian schools and closing of state factories that employed Albanians in Kosovo during the 90's.
All the atrocities you mention, I have heard as being committed by Serbs to the Albanians. So which do I believe? Some of each side.

If you peruse my comments since being on this site you will see that these are not my words nor my thoughts!
I do not condemn the people of Serbia as a whole, and I wish no ill will against any, however, I do think the people of Kosovo deserve independence from Serbia.
As far as Thaci's connection to organized crime, probably true, but is not Milosevic's own family in exile hiding from warrants steming from their involvement in the so called cigarette mafia.
Involvement in a huge organ harvesting scheme in Kosovo and Albania? Was it thought of-I don't know, was it possible to carry out-absolutely no.

pss

pre 13 godina

(John, 31 January 2011 01:11)
1. I knew you were referring to me as being ignorant, but you know that is a typical reaction of your side in that in the absence of concrete arguments you result to personal attacks and try to beat down your opponent. But that only makes you feel good, it matters not to me.
2. Not Albanian by blood or marriage and my opinion comes from research from both sides(had no preformed opinion prior to 2006), and I do not think all Albanians are saints, but I do think that a lot of what happened was a reaction to an action.
3. Were there probable war crimes committed by Albanians yes I am sure there were. Do they even come close to the numbers of those committed by the Serbians, definitely not.
4. I have not lied about anything, I choose to use my initials and not my name but that is irrelavant.
5. You on the other hand were raised from birth to hate the Albanians, Your views are one sided and skewed, to you they may represent the truth but if you cannot see the viewpoint from the other side, why do you criticize those who do not see yours?
You have done a lot of work to develop your website and I commend you on the dedication, but in the end it just comes down to one view of a situation based on personal prejudices and emotion.

John

pre 13 godina

1. I knew you were referring to me as being ignorant, but you know that is a typical reaction of your side in that in the absence of concrete arguments you result to personal attacks and try to beat down your opponent. But that only makes you feel good, it matters not to me.

Give me any intellectual argument and we'll win it, I only called you ignorant after you refused to believe the examples used and brushed it off as propoganda, despite the evidence. If you want to go back to the more traditional "The Dick; You Serbitches should kill yourself" ect, then feel free, but it wont solve anything.

2. Not Albanian by blood or marriage and my opinion comes from research from both sides(had no preformed opinion prior to 2006), and I do not think all Albanians are saints, but I do think that a lot of what happened was a reaction to an action.

@ What do you mean reaction to an action?
Yugoslav troops were only sent into the province after hundreds if not thousands of attacks on Kosovo's Serbs

3. Were there probable war crimes committed by Albanians yes I am sure there were. Do they even come close to the numbers of those committed by the Serbians, definitely not.

@ Those numbers most certainly did, why do you think nearly 3 times as many Albanians have been prosecuted/issued arrest warrants for War Crimes in the Kosovo war then Serbs. Serbian forces didnt decapitate KLA fighters, chop out unborn babies from their mothers stomachs or kidnap and kill soley for the sale of organs, even Dr Mengele would be discusted by that, let alone me.

4. I have not lied about anything, I choose to use my initials and not my name but that is irrelavant.

@ You suggested I put in a false name so that I would look like a better liar showing that you believe lying to be a part of everyday life. I however, do not lie.

5. You on the other hand were raised from birth to hate the Albanians, Your views are one sided and skewed, to you they may represent the truth but if you cannot see the viewpoint from the other side, why do you criticize those who do not see yours?

@ I was not taught to hate the Albanians, I lived alongside Albanians until 1999, and I'm now living in a Western nation (New Zealand) where any media Kosovo related is Pro-Albanian. However, anyone who has seen both sides of the story will notice a disturbing trend; that it was built by propogdanda eg: the non existant Racak Massacre, Operation Horseshoe ect, and they can prove it too.

You have done a lot of work to develop your website and I commend you on the dedication, but in the end it just comes down to one view of a situation based on personal prejudices and emotion.
(pss, 31 January 2011 15:25)

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

No need for witness protection in Kosova. Serbian spy's will die the death of a traitor, either as drunken bums on the street or by their own hand, this is the destiny of a self-hating turncoat who's word is bought and sold like the cheapest of commodities.

John

pre 13 godina

If you peruse my comments since being on this site you will see that these are not my words nor my thoughts!
I do not condemn the people of Serbia as a whole, and I wish no ill will against any, however, I do think the people of Kosovo deserve independence from Serbia.
As far as Thaci's connection to organized crime, probably true, but is not Milosevic's own family in exile hiding from warrants steming from their involvement in the so called cigarette mafia.
Involvement in a huge organ harvesting scheme in Kosovo and Albania? Was it thought of-I don't know, was it possible to carry out-absolutely no.
(pss, 1 February 2011 14:49)

You are either brainwashed, ignorant, seriously misguided or pure evil if you think that Kosovo deserves independence from Serbia, the evidence that organ trafficking took place is overwhelming. Of course it was possible to carry out, and the fact that foriegn nationals have been arrested for organ trafficking in the same region shows that it can carried out. And its clear to anyone that the Albanians had far more rights in 1999 then the Serbs do now (eg, freedom of movement, basic needs such as water), Albanian schools even teach the students to hate Serbs, not dissimilar to the Nazi's teachings on the Jews. No other government in Europe currently has any policy like that

pss

pre 13 godina

(John, 1 February 2011 19:14)
Pure evil? I hope for you the best life possible, but I am afraid that even in a totally different land you are doomed to a dismal future.

boooomerang

pre 13 godina

The end is near for this 'person,' he no longer talks about 'organ trafficking,' in fact he almost stopped an interview when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.

highduke

pre 13 godina

People laughed at me before the mission started when I said that EULEX would end up a de facto branch of MUP. A year later it was obvious even to many Albanians. Now it's plain as day, so Kostunica's hysteric anti-EULEX rants about how co-operation meant 'capitulation' were empty.

pss

pre 13 godina

Dont hold your breath:
[link]
(Higherduke, 29 January 2011 15:34)
If one researched they could find an opinion to support any position in the world. Your position is baseless, no one has given up on the independent Kosovo, even if some leaders fall. And that is an "if". Serbia will never have the cahnce to scourge Kosovo again.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)


You keep talking about McDonald, and I keep asking you where is the beef. Once again A-.... , where is the beef?

pss

pre 13 godina

People laughed at me before the mission started when I said that EULEX would end up a de facto branch of MUP. A year later it was obvious even to many Albanians. Now it's plain as day, so Kostunica's hysteric anti-EULEX rants about how co-operation meant 'capitulation' were empty.
(highduke, 29 January 2011 13:12)
Your still missing the boat by a long shot! But hey if you and the nationalists are happy believing in your fantasies, great, keeps you pacified and out of the way.

Drownanotherday

pre 13 godina

Dont hold your breath:
[link]
(Higherduke
Global Research, January 24, 2011
Nova Srpska Politicka Misao - 2011-01-10

Big deal, still nothing else that Carla has not said in the fiction.
It just proves how foolish some people are who feed them-selfs the poison they prepare for others.

as for the artcle:
Maybe marty wants to protect a plant, give it a name a background story feelings and obviously a way so he can keep the "investigator" "job" money, but still continue profiting on bliss of ignorance.

pss

pre 13 godina

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)
Recommend (+3)Poor comment (-
Interesting little site you put together but kind of the same typical propaganda you see every day.
There is enough there to reassure the nationalists that they are right in their hatred of the Albanians and that innocent Serbia was targeted by the corrupt west. But nothing there that would convince anyone else.
At least you could have mixed it up a little and show things "by" Frank, George or Ralph instead of making it a one man show of postings "by John"
Oh and the request for donations is a good touch too.

pss

pre 13 godina

That must be the case when you have 57 up signs and 6 negatives (the negatives coming from the usual Albanian propoganda posters).

I dont need to put in a false name because unlike you, I dont see a need to lie.

Tell me; how do you say 'Ignorance' in Albanian
(John, 30 January 2011 21:37)
John, John, you guage by votes here, how many of those 57 were self done? What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics. My Albanian is limited, I know good morning, thank you, etc, never learned ignorance but I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda. I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was, and liveing 4000 miles away would it really matter?

Great idea

pre 13 godina

PM Thaqi, BAN THE BIGOTS please.
(Murray, 29 January 2011 15:30)

How would you go about banning almost the entire province? Give the man some ideas, don't just leave him "hanging"

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.
(boooomerang, 29 January 2011 16:05)

Don't worry, Mr Marty will come up with what is needed in due time, when he will have obtained the necessary guarantees that the witnesses will be not wipe out like we have seen before.
It is also certainly not your criminal gang's insults that will stop him to do his jog professionaly like he always did.
Just keep on spitting on him, who is expecting anyway to have a civilized behaviour coming out of this messy place !

John

pre 13 godina

The end is near for this 'person,' he no longer talks about 'organ trafficking,' in fact he almost stopped an interview when asked. he has no witness and those "inteligence reports" don't talk about it. Now he talks about corruption in Kosova etc etc.
(boooomerang, 29 January 2011 16:05)

Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed. If you really still believe that Organ trafficking didnt take place in Kosovo and Metohija I suggest you look at some of the videos, articles and Photograph on kosovometohija.com

Rob

pre 13 godina

'Theres a reason you dont get to hear the names of the witnesses and that is because in the Hardinaj trial, 10 were killed.'
(John, 30 January 2011 11:33)

John, you have been misinformed. The following is a statement about the Haradinaj trial from the ICTY, 16 April 2008.

'Meantime, allow me to revisit the particular issue of witness protection that has been systematically misrepresented in Serbia. Contrary to the misinformation placed in the public realm by Serbian officials, allegations that witnesses who testified in this case were killed are simply untrue. The Trial Chamber clearly stated that the proceedings were held in an atmosphere where witnesses felt unsafe. To extrapolate from that assessment that numerous witnesses were killed is bogus and inaccurate.'

Hope that clears it up for you :)

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Big deal, still nothing else that Carla has not said in the fiction.
It just proves how foolish some people are who feed them-selfs the poison they prepare for others.
============================

Amazing how the world is eager to investigate "fiction".
Looks like only Albanians are calling this report fiction and the rest of the world finds it credible enough. How did this happen?

John

pre 13 godina

Interesting little site you put together but kind of the same typical propaganda you see every day.
There is enough there to reassure the nationalists that they are right in their hatred of the Albanians and that innocent Serbia was targeted by the corrupt west. But nothing there that would convince anyone else.
At least you could have mixed it up a little and show things "by" Frank, George or Ralph instead of making it a one man show of postings "by John"
Oh and the request for donations is a good touch too.
(pss, 30 January 2011 15:40)

That must be the case when you have 57 up signs and 6 negatives (the negatives coming from the usual Albanian propoganda posters).

I dont need to put in a false name because unlike you, I dont see a need to lie.

Tell me; how do you say 'Ignorance' in Albanian

John

pre 13 godina

John, you guage by votes here, how many of those 57 were self done? What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics. My Albanian is limited, I know good morning, thank you, etc, never learned ignorance but I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda. I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was, and liveing 4000 miles away would it really matter?
(pss, 30 January 2011 22:39)

@How many of those 57 were self done? A grand total of Zero

@What do you expect from a site dominated by nationalist fanatics? Such as yourself?

B92 is a moderate media source within Serbia, which unlike some of the others; doesnt post one sided stories. If you want to read some nationalistic comments, theres a small minority of nationalistic posters on Serbianna.

@I didnt call your attempts ignorant only baseless propaganda

And there rest my case; more ignorance. I was informing you of your ignorance and its not without good reason. You and the other Albanian posters continue to believe that you were innocent victims, no matter how much evidence is thrown in your direction proving otherwise, you refuse to believe very credible pieces of information (Eg. Dick Marty's report) and somehow believe in laughable examples of propoganda from your own side (Eg. Thaci's claim that there is an anti independence network run by the KGB and Putin).

@I could give you my first name too but would you be able to tell who I was

You suggested that I lie and put in several false names, I however, unlike you, do not lie, it ruins credibility.

Dibrani

pre 13 godina

No need for witness protection in Kosova. Serbian spy's will die the death of a traitor, either as drunken bums on the street or by their own hand, this is the destiny of a self-hating turncoat who's word is bought and sold like the cheapest of commodities.

pss

pre 13 godina

(John, 31 January 2011 01:11)
1. I knew you were referring to me as being ignorant, but you know that is a typical reaction of your side in that in the absence of concrete arguments you result to personal attacks and try to beat down your opponent. But that only makes you feel good, it matters not to me.
2. Not Albanian by blood or marriage and my opinion comes from research from both sides(had no preformed opinion prior to 2006), and I do not think all Albanians are saints, but I do think that a lot of what happened was a reaction to an action.
3. Were there probable war crimes committed by Albanians yes I am sure there were. Do they even come close to the numbers of those committed by the Serbians, definitely not.
4. I have not lied about anything, I choose to use my initials and not my name but that is irrelavant.
5. You on the other hand were raised from birth to hate the Albanians, Your views are one sided and skewed, to you they may represent the truth but if you cannot see the viewpoint from the other side, why do you criticize those who do not see yours?
You have done a lot of work to develop your website and I commend you on the dedication, but in the end it just comes down to one view of a situation based on personal prejudices and emotion.

John

pre 13 godina

1. I knew you were referring to me as being ignorant, but you know that is a typical reaction of your side in that in the absence of concrete arguments you result to personal attacks and try to beat down your opponent. But that only makes you feel good, it matters not to me.

Give me any intellectual argument and we'll win it, I only called you ignorant after you refused to believe the examples used and brushed it off as propoganda, despite the evidence. If you want to go back to the more traditional "The Dick; You Serbitches should kill yourself" ect, then feel free, but it wont solve anything.

2. Not Albanian by blood or marriage and my opinion comes from research from both sides(had no preformed opinion prior to 2006), and I do not think all Albanians are saints, but I do think that a lot of what happened was a reaction to an action.

@ What do you mean reaction to an action?
Yugoslav troops were only sent into the province after hundreds if not thousands of attacks on Kosovo's Serbs

3. Were there probable war crimes committed by Albanians yes I am sure there were. Do they even come close to the numbers of those committed by the Serbians, definitely not.

@ Those numbers most certainly did, why do you think nearly 3 times as many Albanians have been prosecuted/issued arrest warrants for War Crimes in the Kosovo war then Serbs. Serbian forces didnt decapitate KLA fighters, chop out unborn babies from their mothers stomachs or kidnap and kill soley for the sale of organs, even Dr Mengele would be discusted by that, let alone me.

4. I have not lied about anything, I choose to use my initials and not my name but that is irrelavant.

@ You suggested I put in a false name so that I would look like a better liar showing that you believe lying to be a part of everyday life. I however, do not lie.

5. You on the other hand were raised from birth to hate the Albanians, Your views are one sided and skewed, to you they may represent the truth but if you cannot see the viewpoint from the other side, why do you criticize those who do not see yours?

@ I was not taught to hate the Albanians, I lived alongside Albanians until 1999, and I'm now living in a Western nation (New Zealand) where any media Kosovo related is Pro-Albanian. However, anyone who has seen both sides of the story will notice a disturbing trend; that it was built by propogdanda eg: the non existant Racak Massacre, Operation Horseshoe ect, and they can prove it too.

You have done a lot of work to develop your website and I commend you on the dedication, but in the end it just comes down to one view of a situation based on personal prejudices and emotion.
(pss, 31 January 2011 15:25)

pss

pre 13 godina

@ Those numbers most certainly did, why do you think nearly 3 times as many Albanians have been prosecuted/issued arrest warrants for War Crimes in the Kosovo war then Serbs. Serbian forces didnt decapitate KLA fighters, chop out unborn babies from their mothers stomachs or kidnap and kill soley for the sale of organs, even Dr Mengele would be discusted by that, let alone me.

In what court system is this??
According to 100% of the Serbian posters here the Hague is a "NATO" court that only prosecutes Serbians.
If you are speaking of the Serbian court system you have just answered why.
You say the Albanian claims are propaganda, the Albanians say your claims are propaganda. I base my opinion on direct conversations I had with victims of the war, and facts that are not denied by either side. Like the closing of Albanian schools and closing of state factories that employed Albanians in Kosovo during the 90's.
All the atrocities you mention, I have heard as being committed by Serbs to the Albanians. So which do I believe? Some of each side.

If you peruse my comments since being on this site you will see that these are not my words nor my thoughts!
I do not condemn the people of Serbia as a whole, and I wish no ill will against any, however, I do think the people of Kosovo deserve independence from Serbia.
As far as Thaci's connection to organized crime, probably true, but is not Milosevic's own family in exile hiding from warrants steming from their involvement in the so called cigarette mafia.
Involvement in a huge organ harvesting scheme in Kosovo and Albania? Was it thought of-I don't know, was it possible to carry out-absolutely no.

John

pre 13 godina

If you peruse my comments since being on this site you will see that these are not my words nor my thoughts!
I do not condemn the people of Serbia as a whole, and I wish no ill will against any, however, I do think the people of Kosovo deserve independence from Serbia.
As far as Thaci's connection to organized crime, probably true, but is not Milosevic's own family in exile hiding from warrants steming from their involvement in the so called cigarette mafia.
Involvement in a huge organ harvesting scheme in Kosovo and Albania? Was it thought of-I don't know, was it possible to carry out-absolutely no.
(pss, 1 February 2011 14:49)

You are either brainwashed, ignorant, seriously misguided or pure evil if you think that Kosovo deserves independence from Serbia, the evidence that organ trafficking took place is overwhelming. Of course it was possible to carry out, and the fact that foriegn nationals have been arrested for organ trafficking in the same region shows that it can carried out. And its clear to anyone that the Albanians had far more rights in 1999 then the Serbs do now (eg, freedom of movement, basic needs such as water), Albanian schools even teach the students to hate Serbs, not dissimilar to the Nazi's teachings on the Jews. No other government in Europe currently has any policy like that

pss

pre 13 godina

(John, 1 February 2011 19:14)
Pure evil? I hope for you the best life possible, but I am afraid that even in a totally different land you are doomed to a dismal future.