Albanian PM furious at CoE rapporteur

Berisha has his own problems in Albania to deal with before dealing with another country's problems and trying to make anyone who disagrees with Berisha's view point as an anti-Albanian. Albania should never have allowed its territory to be used for KLA bases during the war if it wanted to keep its hands clean of a terrorist organization's crimes. Marty hit the nail on the head with his remarks.

“We have no reason to fear an investigation. On the contrary, we are very interested in bringing the truth about Kosovo to the international public,”

Everyone can visit Prizren and take pictures of destroyed Serbian houses and churches. It's all out there just as you walk up the hill to the fortress.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?

Sali has actually gone from sounding ridiculously funny to uncomfortably pathetic. Even Thaci has toned down the rhetoric of late. Berisha's attitude of shoot anyone that doesn't agree with me has only distanced himself from international support. Ex-Communists like him who continue to hold on to power 20 years after their time passed do nothing to improve the image of the country they control.

These replies were easy to predict, of course. So is my reply, too: you guys mean that one crime justifies the other, right? Not the first time I see such reply.

This is THE Balkan mentality - you just demonstrated it. And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 22:17)

Ataman, you say that our replies were predictable.
For starters, what response did you expect from us… Was it something like:… “it’s ok, you slaughter us, kill us, destroy us, try everything possible in the face of the earth to wipe us out and we’ll sit and greet you with our arms opened”. It seems that you have read too many fairy tales Ataman.. you know ..“and they lived happily ever after”. Ataman, even in fairy tales the tyrant is destroyed. Our tyrant is still at large trying everything to hinder every progress we try to make.

Then you say that we support eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth revenge.
Believe you me Ataman, after what Serbs have done to us (since 1912) if that was the case there would not be a single Serb left in Kosovo.

So Ataman, please spare me your “Freudian” analysis.

When you have lived as an Albanian in Kosovo under Serbian occupation for a day (a single day will do) Ataman, then we can talk.

Until then don’t give me your tourist view of life in Kosovo.
Ataman, Jews still search for Nazis for their crimes.
Does that make them wrong?
No Ataman. Same here, if you have Albanian blood in your hands you are not welcomed and you’ll face justice.
And yes Ataman, Serbian Orthodox church has Albanian blood up to their elbows (I say this as you referred to Prizren).
Funny enough, Serbian Church is the only one that does. Ataman, did you ever see Albanian Muslim/Catholic/Orthodox clerics bless a tank or a weapon that is aimed to kill people?
Until Serbian Church calls for war, she will be targeted.
The day that the Serbian church becomes a church and not a Political entity that entices hatred, she will be left alone.
Was this response predictable Ataman?

I agree with Tomorr. We need decent Albanians and decent Serbs to work together for the future of our children. People want jobs, an education for their kids. A life free of corruption and violence. Why shouldn't ordinary decent folk in the Balkans live like everybody else in Europe. Scratch the surface and we're all the same.

“We have no reason to fear an investigation. On the contrary, we are very interested in bringing the truth about Kosovo to the international public,”

Everyone can visit Prizren and take pictures of destroyed Serbian houses and churches. It's all out there just as you walk up the hill to the fortress.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 16:59)

I guess you should have visited Kosovo Albanian villages in 1999 Ataman.
Then you would have seen how the destruction looks like.
Pity you did not decide to visit Kosovo as a tourist then.
Only then you could compare the two.
Don’t judge one without seeing the other one Ataman.

This response is purely insane. If you have the feelings you do - your place is either in a madman asylum or in a jail.
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I am really impressed. Whenever I think your comments can't get worse you always manage to surprise me... There is only one valid opinion here on this forum and that is yours. You are certainly a chosen one.

Your agenda is not clear, but I can assure you that the more desperately you try to be protective towards everything Albanian - the less you achieve of your goal.
(Ataman, 28 January 2011 13:20)

And what would that goal be Ataman?
The only person I see here trying to achieve any goals is you Ataman.
You come from thousands of kilometres away and try to preach about the things you may have heard about.
You have been half a dozen times in Kosovo in the last 10 years and you think you have the authority to write history books!
You believe yourself to be some kind of messiah who has to be listened to.
You write as if you are above the rest and when you are taken down a peg or two, you complain as a child whose toy has been taken away.
No Ataman, I am not going to talk to you about the thousands of 3 year old nieces because you are oblivious to the reality that existed here, and honestly I know that you would not care less about any Albanian victim.
Do you really believe that I expect you to fell sorry for them?
No Ataman, you might try to hide your true biasness with “Freudian” analogies but you are very easy to read.
You justify every act of terror done against us (and never condemn it), however you are the first one to comment on anything anti Albanian.

Pure BS. ☺
(Ataman, 28 January 2011 16:59)

Funny enough Ataman, that is the first thing that comes to my mind every time I read one of you “enciphered” comments.
What do you use, a 1024 or a 2048 RSA key pairs in the enciphering process?
You should use a stronger prime Ataman: these weak keys you’re using are doing you no favour.
So I guess, you are trying to convince me that you are actually completely unbiased.
And all those cynical and sick remarks of yours about us, our culture, our pride, our mothers and sisters and our heroes were just funny (and highly intellectual) jokes that we Albanians (the peasants) did not get, right?

Trying to sell seaman a fish Ataman?

Berisha said that the "anti-Albanian propaganda had started in Serbia under Slobodan Milošević"....What a jerk, this statement coming from the Balkans' Pinochet. I just don't understand why Albanians keep re-electing criminals like himself and Thaci to office. Just keep up the entertaining rhetoric, Sali, your days are numbered also.

Does anyone take this man seriously anymore. Doesn't he realise he's fast becoming an international laughing stock a'la Berlusconi. I suggest he concentrate more on solving the political disaster in his own backyard, than attempting to help his brethren in 'Kosova.' With friends like him you really don't need enemies.

Sali Berisha is the strongest politician I have ever seen.
This guy is how to say a diplomat,a real one.
I personally think,Marty's story is an Ado story(movie,horror but nothing more than a story.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 16:59)

I beg your pardon?
Have you or any "your kind of tourist" ever counted some of thousands Albanian homes and villages burned to the ground?
Have you ever count any of mass graves filled with K-Albanian victims?

What a despicable comment, crying for some churches while thousands of K-Albanian civilians were burned alive.

Berisha, your time is long past. You belong in the former Balkan dictator dust bin, with the likes of Milosevic, Tudjman, and Izetbegovic. I hope Albanian citizens will wake up soon, and sweep your corrupt rear end into that trash heap you belong in.

"These insults are not only vulgar, but are also political abuse of the report for the purpose of solving domestic problems Berisha is facing in Albania," Marty told BBC.

Not more to say about this nonsense. Funny politicians that these Albanians elect - Thaci is not anything better..

Berisha is obviously quite disturbed about these accusations, as well he should be - he was involved in this most heinous crime. Hence his ferocious rebuke of Marty's correct and damning report. The closer we get to the truth, the more "foaming at the mouth" reaction we will see from all those who partook in this monstrosity. They thought they could get away with it, but the hounds of hell will be loosed upon them... sooner or later. And that, is guaranteed!

These replies were easy to predict, of course. So is my reply, too: you guys mean that one crime justifies the other, right? Not the first time I see such reply.

This is THE Balkan mentality - you just demonstrated it. And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 22:17)

I beg your pardon again?
Where do you ever saw me or anyone else justify any crime. Explaining an action does not mean justifying. Explaining why 100K Serbs left Kosova after, almost a million, first expelled, Albanians were returning home ,does not mean jusfifying. Explaining why orthodox churches were burned after thousands K-Albanians bodies were found dead and hundreds of thousands homes, villages livestock were burned, does not mean justifying. But you have got to be insane not to see this order of reality.

You know, I understand many Serbs here, even those with the hottest temper, because the matter in question is very sensitive to both our people, but what is the most irritating to read in here are your arguments over who has the right in this conflict, and those jokes of your, those autistic jokes that no one understands. All of us, Serbs and Albanians, have an interest to this subject, it affects directly or indirectly our lives and our existence or even simply our dignity.
But to you this is a game, which you seem to play day after day to spice your boring programing world in which you live in.

and you Albanians are of course the descendants of the illyrians..., rhight? =)


(Jovan, 28 January 2011 12:35)

correction man: we are not descendants of Illyrians WE ARE Illyrians = i lirë = free man.

WE ARE FREE FROM THE SERBIAN OCCUPATION we are: free man = illyrian = i lirë.

Albania should never have allowed its territory to be used for KLA bases during the war if it wanted to keep its hands clean of a terrorist organization's crimes. Marty hit the nail on the head with his remarks.
(American Eagle, 27 January 2011 16:02)

You hit the nail on the head, these so called KLA heroes were hiding in Albania, completely cleaned out of Kosovo-Metohija even with all the indescriminate bombs from NATO. They didn't have the balls to fight in Kosovo so hid in Albania like rats.

KFOR and NATO than allows these rats into Kosovo and they start with wreaking havoc to not only Serbian civlians but Albanian, Gypsy as well as the few Croatians who basically left when the NATo bombing began.

The biggest mobster Thaci is the head of the European protectorate Kosovo while the other KLA terrorists are also involved in the government in some capacity.

Big heroes hiding behind NATO,EU, Holbrook, Half Bright, Blair Clinton and the Albanian civilian population.

Even Kurti would be a far better choice as leader as at least his hands are not stained of blood.

And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 22:17)
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No distortion of historical facts today? That's a real shame because I find your 'findings' always entertaining...

Meanwhile in Priština, New Kosovo Alliance (AKR) assistant leader Ibrahim Makoli urged Kosovo officials to delay talks with Belgrade until the justice system responds to all of the allegations in Marty's report, which PACE adopted along with an accompanying resolution.


FINALLY someone has some common sense.

@Serbs,
just because you don't agree with 3 statements that he's made doesn't make him a "laughing stock". What he is saying is realistic and logical..not like the clowns in Bg.







Thanks,

Typical Berisha slander. It uses the same rhetoric against opposition. This guy is doing more damage to the Albanian cause buy confronting in this way. Not very diplomatic. When will we ever learn!? I dont really believe most of the things Marty says but this is not a way to behave. We need to use arguments to deal with this situation. Lets not ruin our image more than it already is.

@ miri Where is your prove!!!??
How many Serbs are there left in Kosovo??
Almost NON!
How many Serbs left kosovo:? Up to half a million or more in the last 100years.
At the same time albs grew x4!
And you are talking about burned Albanian villages and thousands of dead
Yea right its because of Albanian thugs (KLA) that Serbs/roma left and thousands died including albs.
I would believe you if we could find in Kosovo 100% Serbian villages.....
look at the map I can only see 100% Albanian villages and places in South Kosovo, so Don't play the victim any more cause youre Not!

I guess you should have visited Kosovo Albanian villages in 1999 Ataman.
Then you would have seen how the destruction looks like.
Pity you did not decide to visit Kosovo as a tourist then.
Only then you could compare the two.
Don’t judge one without seeing the other one Ataman.
(Gjergj Fishta, 27 January 2011 18:04)

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I beg your pardon?
Have you or any "your kind of tourist" ever counted some of thousands Albanian homes and villages burned to the ground?
Have you ever count any of mass graves filled with K-Albanian victims?

What a despicable comment, crying for some churches while thousands of K-Albanian civilians were burned alive.
(miri, 27 January 2011 17:53)

These replies were easy to predict, of course. So is my reply, too: you guys mean that one crime justifies the other, right? Not the first time I see such reply.

This is THE Balkan mentality - you just demonstrated it. And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.

@Jugoslavija
but if the kla having a few bases in albania allows you to draw such conclusions...

Using YOUR logic. what does it say about serbia proper, that remained untouched in all the DECADES of violence. Yet happily and safely exported its violence everywhere else. At least until Until nato came along and serbia suffered a sudden outbreak of the 'letsstopfighting" virus.

will you tell us what conclusion you come to using your established logic?

Yeah thought not.

as it is Jugoslavija, as you insist the kla were hiding out in albania, Are you confirming that the only purpose of those imported serb forces was to Expel and murder Civilians... Right?

dear Ben, you seem to be upset, otherwise there would be no reason to "scream" ( write in big letters ).

well, you are free to dream, my dear k-albanian friend.

you are free to dream, but what you call occupation, is actually the only right and justified situation. of course you don´t like that, since you are a supporter of terrorists and organ-traffickers.

but, your dream, like every dream at all, will end some day.

and you will have to rethink your definition of "free man".

history seems not to be your strongest point.

(Jovan, 28 January 2011 22:20)

capital letters stand for highliting

"“We have no reason to fear an investigation. On the contrary, we are very interested in bringing the truth about Kosovo to the international public,”

Everyone can visit Prizren and take pictures of destroyed Serbian houses and churches. It's all out there just as you walk up the hill to the fortress.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?
Ataman"

-- Do you recall the rapes, killings, destruction and utter misery that Serbs caused in Kosovo in 1999?

How low do you have to stoop to compare that with damaged 'property'????????

It takes a lot of 'character' to come clean on this forum as you have.
Objections????

@Gjergi:

since Kosovo is serbian not only by name, for over 1000 years now, ... talking about serbian occupation is quite laughable.

perhaps you want to express your anti-serb, greater albanian conviction, but, ...there is nothing you can do about it.

even the name of that region in southern Serbia is serbian.

you don´t even have an own name for KiM, all those funny inventions like kosovaah, dardania etc. are just a perfect display of the lack of own cultural and historical presence.

but, of course, this is all just serbian propaganda, right? ...and you Albanians are of course the descendants of the illyrians..., rhight? =)


you are entertaining us very well. thanks for that!

I´d say that it should be clear for every intelligent Albanian that Mr.Berisha is a shame for his country.

I mean, calling others racist, even without any reason at all, is so ...stupid.

if it were a racial thing, okay, but ...this is about organised crime and bestialic behaviour of a terrorist movement that has been supported by the US and their allies.

so, while he allows his own people to be shot at in the streets of Tirana... he has nothing smarter to do than to make statements like that above?

do they not have any other man over there in Albania, someone who´s smarter than that?

as for miri, who is writing about Ataman´s comment in a way as if he was the ultimate immoral person at all.

I can remember how she ( or he ) wrote about "russian prostitutes", and it was even published here, B92-censors were quite tolerant in regard to cheapish or let´s say vulgar comments.

nevertheless, this dentist is a funny person though.

In a nutshell: you come to B92 (compare: what do you see on Newkosova Report) to spread the hatred and justify any crime you commit by some events in the past. And what events and when - you allow only your interpretation.

Your agenda is not clear, but I can assure you that the more desperately you try to be protective towards everything Albanian - the less you achieve of your goal.

I am really impressed.
(Basta!, 28 January 2011 13:30)

Same here. I don't see any argument, only blind hate and few Albanians being over-protective. This is what the article was about after all - you just demoed it. If this is what consumes "your" people day and night - it's a sorry state. I wasn't in Kosovo that many times but I can tell, this is luckily untypical. For few trollers: good luck finding excuses for own crimes...

Sali who ?? Totally insignificant person for us !

Was this response predictable Ataman?
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 January 2011 11:07)

This response is purely insane. If you have the feelings you do - your place is either in a madman asylum or in a jail.

With this response you have no room in Europe and no right to statehood. You are busy justifying any crime, full of self-pity and primitive tribalism. And of course you conveniently forgot about the plundered Serb homes around the churches. Both thumbs down - but unfortunately you probably do not understand, why.

I expect that the next story will be a 3-year old niece who was killed by a savage Serbian neanderthal. Save it for yourself, please, I already heard a few and as for neanderthal - there were abundant on both sides and Albanians started the quarrel.

You justify every act of terror done against us (and never condemn it), however you are the first one to comment on anything anti Albanian.
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 January 2011 14:08)

Pure BS. ☺

Should I pull for you the old B92 pages which prove the opposite? Easy: Bytyqi comes first. So much about "never".

Sadly for scum like Berisha, Thaci and the ilk, the truth coming out is worse than anything wikileaks could muster about them. In the end, the truth will prevail and hopefully justice will be served - and these scumbags will have their day answering for the crimes they have committed.

but, of course, this is all just serbian propaganda, right? ...and you Albanians are of course the descendants of the illyrians..., rhight? =)


Serbia sends a spy (rasuli burovich) to show an insane theory, explaning on Albanian culture/ origins,

I read rasuli's theory, is it any wounder why no credible encyclopedia/ historian accepts his theory?


except for those freaks of nature at thehistoryof(slav)macedonia.com

That is serbian propaganda


Proud to be Illyrian descendent.

How is it at all racist?

Those specifically mentioned happen to be Albanian, but not every Albanian is like that.

This is just another weak attempt to get his people all emotionally amped for no reason.

well, ben, I don´t know where you have heard that capital letters "stand for highlighting" ... or wether you have ever heard of the term " netiquette "...

but, you made me smile though...

as I´ve said it: you are free to dream, but every dream comes to an end...

Sali Berisha is the strongest politician I have ever seen.
This guy is how to say a diplomat,a real one.
I personally think,Marty's story is an Ado story(movie,horror but nothing more than a story.

“We have no reason to fear an investigation. On the contrary, we are very interested in bringing the truth about Kosovo to the international public,”

Everyone can visit Prizren and take pictures of destroyed Serbian houses and churches. It's all out there just as you walk up the hill to the fortress.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?

Was this response predictable Ataman?
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 January 2011 11:07)

This response is purely insane. If you have the feelings you do - your place is either in a madman asylum or in a jail.

With this response you have no room in Europe and no right to statehood. You are busy justifying any crime, full of self-pity and primitive tribalism. And of course you conveniently forgot about the plundered Serb homes around the churches. Both thumbs down - but unfortunately you probably do not understand, why.

I expect that the next story will be a 3-year old niece who was killed by a savage Serbian neanderthal. Save it for yourself, please, I already heard a few and as for neanderthal - there were abundant on both sides and Albanians started the quarrel.

I am really impressed.
(Basta!, 28 January 2011 13:30)

Same here. I don't see any argument, only blind hate and few Albanians being over-protective. This is what the article was about after all - you just demoed it. If this is what consumes "your" people day and night - it's a sorry state. I wasn't in Kosovo that many times but I can tell, this is luckily untypical. For few trollers: good luck finding excuses for own crimes...

Berisha has his own problems in Albania to deal with before dealing with another country's problems and trying to make anyone who disagrees with Berisha's view point as an anti-Albanian. Albania should never have allowed its territory to be used for KLA bases during the war if it wanted to keep its hands clean of a terrorist organization's crimes. Marty hit the nail on the head with his remarks.

Meanwhile in Priština, New Kosovo Alliance (AKR) assistant leader Ibrahim Makoli urged Kosovo officials to delay talks with Belgrade until the justice system responds to all of the allegations in Marty's report, which PACE adopted along with an accompanying resolution.


FINALLY someone has some common sense.

@Serbs,
just because you don't agree with 3 statements that he's made doesn't make him a "laughing stock". What he is saying is realistic and logical..not like the clowns in Bg.







Thanks,

You justify every act of terror done against us (and never condemn it), however you are the first one to comment on anything anti Albanian.
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 January 2011 14:08)

Pure BS. ☺

Should I pull for you the old B92 pages which prove the opposite? Easy: Bytyqi comes first. So much about "never".

“We have no reason to fear an investigation. On the contrary, we are very interested in bringing the truth about Kosovo to the international public,”

Everyone can visit Prizren and take pictures of destroyed Serbian houses and churches. It's all out there just as you walk up the hill to the fortress.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 16:59)

I guess you should have visited Kosovo Albanian villages in 1999 Ataman.
Then you would have seen how the destruction looks like.
Pity you did not decide to visit Kosovo as a tourist then.
Only then you could compare the two.
Don’t judge one without seeing the other one Ataman.

In a nutshell: you come to B92 (compare: what do you see on Newkosova Report) to spread the hatred and justify any crime you commit by some events in the past. And what events and when - you allow only your interpretation.

Your agenda is not clear, but I can assure you that the more desperately you try to be protective towards everything Albanian - the less you achieve of your goal.

Does anyone take this man seriously anymore. Doesn't he realise he's fast becoming an international laughing stock a'la Berlusconi. I suggest he concentrate more on solving the political disaster in his own backyard, than attempting to help his brethren in 'Kosova.' With friends like him you really don't need enemies.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 16:59)

I beg your pardon?
Have you or any "your kind of tourist" ever counted some of thousands Albanian homes and villages burned to the ground?
Have you ever count any of mass graves filled with K-Albanian victims?

What a despicable comment, crying for some churches while thousands of K-Albanian civilians were burned alive.

I guess you should have visited Kosovo Albanian villages in 1999 Ataman.
Then you would have seen how the destruction looks like.
Pity you did not decide to visit Kosovo as a tourist then.
Only then you could compare the two.
Don’t judge one without seeing the other one Ataman.
(Gjergj Fishta, 27 January 2011 18:04)

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I beg your pardon?
Have you or any "your kind of tourist" ever counted some of thousands Albanian homes and villages burned to the ground?
Have you ever count any of mass graves filled with K-Albanian victims?

What a despicable comment, crying for some churches while thousands of K-Albanian civilians were burned alive.
(miri, 27 January 2011 17:53)

These replies were easy to predict, of course. So is my reply, too: you guys mean that one crime justifies the other, right? Not the first time I see such reply.

This is THE Balkan mentality - you just demonstrated it. And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.

@Gjergi:

since Kosovo is serbian not only by name, for over 1000 years now, ... talking about serbian occupation is quite laughable.

perhaps you want to express your anti-serb, greater albanian conviction, but, ...there is nothing you can do about it.

even the name of that region in southern Serbia is serbian.

you don´t even have an own name for KiM, all those funny inventions like kosovaah, dardania etc. are just a perfect display of the lack of own cultural and historical presence.

but, of course, this is all just serbian propaganda, right? ...and you Albanians are of course the descendants of the illyrians..., rhight? =)


you are entertaining us very well. thanks for that!

Berisha said that the "anti-Albanian propaganda had started in Serbia under Slobodan Milošević"....What a jerk, this statement coming from the Balkans' Pinochet. I just don't understand why Albanians keep re-electing criminals like himself and Thaci to office. Just keep up the entertaining rhetoric, Sali, your days are numbered also.

Albania should never have allowed its territory to be used for KLA bases during the war if it wanted to keep its hands clean of a terrorist organization's crimes. Marty hit the nail on the head with his remarks.
(American Eagle, 27 January 2011 16:02)

You hit the nail on the head, these so called KLA heroes were hiding in Albania, completely cleaned out of Kosovo-Metohija even with all the indescriminate bombs from NATO. They didn't have the balls to fight in Kosovo so hid in Albania like rats.

KFOR and NATO than allows these rats into Kosovo and they start with wreaking havoc to not only Serbian civlians but Albanian, Gypsy as well as the few Croatians who basically left when the NATo bombing began.

The biggest mobster Thaci is the head of the European protectorate Kosovo while the other KLA terrorists are also involved in the government in some capacity.

Big heroes hiding behind NATO,EU, Holbrook, Half Bright, Blair Clinton and the Albanian civilian population.

Even Kurti would be a far better choice as leader as at least his hands are not stained of blood.

These replies were easy to predict, of course. So is my reply, too: you guys mean that one crime justifies the other, right? Not the first time I see such reply.

This is THE Balkan mentality - you just demonstrated it. And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 22:17)

Ataman, you say that our replies were predictable.
For starters, what response did you expect from us… Was it something like:… “it’s ok, you slaughter us, kill us, destroy us, try everything possible in the face of the earth to wipe us out and we’ll sit and greet you with our arms opened”. It seems that you have read too many fairy tales Ataman.. you know ..“and they lived happily ever after”. Ataman, even in fairy tales the tyrant is destroyed. Our tyrant is still at large trying everything to hinder every progress we try to make.

Then you say that we support eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth revenge.
Believe you me Ataman, after what Serbs have done to us (since 1912) if that was the case there would not be a single Serb left in Kosovo.

So Ataman, please spare me your “Freudian” analysis.

When you have lived as an Albanian in Kosovo under Serbian occupation for a day (a single day will do) Ataman, then we can talk.

Until then don’t give me your tourist view of life in Kosovo.
Ataman, Jews still search for Nazis for their crimes.
Does that make them wrong?
No Ataman. Same here, if you have Albanian blood in your hands you are not welcomed and you’ll face justice.
And yes Ataman, Serbian Orthodox church has Albanian blood up to their elbows (I say this as you referred to Prizren).
Funny enough, Serbian Church is the only one that does. Ataman, did you ever see Albanian Muslim/Catholic/Orthodox clerics bless a tank or a weapon that is aimed to kill people?
Until Serbian Church calls for war, she will be targeted.
The day that the Serbian church becomes a church and not a Political entity that entices hatred, she will be left alone.
Was this response predictable Ataman?

@ miri Where is your prove!!!??
How many Serbs are there left in Kosovo??
Almost NON!
How many Serbs left kosovo:? Up to half a million or more in the last 100years.
At the same time albs grew x4!
And you are talking about burned Albanian villages and thousands of dead
Yea right its because of Albanian thugs (KLA) that Serbs/roma left and thousands died including albs.
I would believe you if we could find in Kosovo 100% Serbian villages.....
look at the map I can only see 100% Albanian villages and places in South Kosovo, so Don't play the victim any more cause youre Not!

"These insults are not only vulgar, but are also political abuse of the report for the purpose of solving domestic problems Berisha is facing in Albania," Marty told BBC.

Not more to say about this nonsense. Funny politicians that these Albanians elect - Thaci is not anything better..

Sali has actually gone from sounding ridiculously funny to uncomfortably pathetic. Even Thaci has toned down the rhetoric of late. Berisha's attitude of shoot anyone that doesn't agree with me has only distanced himself from international support. Ex-Communists like him who continue to hold on to power 20 years after their time passed do nothing to improve the image of the country they control.

Typical Berisha slander. It uses the same rhetoric against opposition. This guy is doing more damage to the Albanian cause buy confronting in this way. Not very diplomatic. When will we ever learn!? I dont really believe most of the things Marty says but this is not a way to behave. We need to use arguments to deal with this situation. Lets not ruin our image more than it already is.

@Jugoslavija
but if the kla having a few bases in albania allows you to draw such conclusions...

Using YOUR logic. what does it say about serbia proper, that remained untouched in all the DECADES of violence. Yet happily and safely exported its violence everywhere else. At least until Until nato came along and serbia suffered a sudden outbreak of the 'letsstopfighting" virus.

will you tell us what conclusion you come to using your established logic?

Yeah thought not.

as it is Jugoslavija, as you insist the kla were hiding out in albania, Are you confirming that the only purpose of those imported serb forces was to Expel and murder Civilians... Right?

Berisha, your time is long past. You belong in the former Balkan dictator dust bin, with the likes of Milosevic, Tudjman, and Izetbegovic. I hope Albanian citizens will wake up soon, and sweep your corrupt rear end into that trash heap you belong in.

Berisha is obviously quite disturbed about these accusations, as well he should be - he was involved in this most heinous crime. Hence his ferocious rebuke of Marty's correct and damning report. The closer we get to the truth, the more "foaming at the mouth" reaction we will see from all those who partook in this monstrosity. They thought they could get away with it, but the hounds of hell will be loosed upon them... sooner or later. And that, is guaranteed!

dear Ben, you seem to be upset, otherwise there would be no reason to "scream" ( write in big letters ).

well, you are free to dream, my dear k-albanian friend.

you are free to dream, but what you call occupation, is actually the only right and justified situation. of course you don´t like that, since you are a supporter of terrorists and organ-traffickers.

but, your dream, like every dream at all, will end some day.

and you will have to rethink your definition of "free man".

history seems not to be your strongest point.

and you Albanians are of course the descendants of the illyrians..., rhight? =)


(Jovan, 28 January 2011 12:35)

correction man: we are not descendants of Illyrians WE ARE Illyrians = i lirë = free man.

WE ARE FREE FROM THE SERBIAN OCCUPATION we are: free man = illyrian = i lirë.

I´d say that it should be clear for every intelligent Albanian that Mr.Berisha is a shame for his country.

I mean, calling others racist, even without any reason at all, is so ...stupid.

if it were a racial thing, okay, but ...this is about organised crime and bestialic behaviour of a terrorist movement that has been supported by the US and their allies.

so, while he allows his own people to be shot at in the streets of Tirana... he has nothing smarter to do than to make statements like that above?

do they not have any other man over there in Albania, someone who´s smarter than that?

as for miri, who is writing about Ataman´s comment in a way as if he was the ultimate immoral person at all.

I can remember how she ( or he ) wrote about "russian prostitutes", and it was even published here, B92-censors were quite tolerant in regard to cheapish or let´s say vulgar comments.

nevertheless, this dentist is a funny person though.

Your agenda is not clear, but I can assure you that the more desperately you try to be protective towards everything Albanian - the less you achieve of your goal.
(Ataman, 28 January 2011 13:20)

And what would that goal be Ataman?
The only person I see here trying to achieve any goals is you Ataman.
You come from thousands of kilometres away and try to preach about the things you may have heard about.
You have been half a dozen times in Kosovo in the last 10 years and you think you have the authority to write history books!
You believe yourself to be some kind of messiah who has to be listened to.
You write as if you are above the rest and when you are taken down a peg or two, you complain as a child whose toy has been taken away.
No Ataman, I am not going to talk to you about the thousands of 3 year old nieces because you are oblivious to the reality that existed here, and honestly I know that you would not care less about any Albanian victim.
Do you really believe that I expect you to fell sorry for them?
No Ataman, you might try to hide your true biasness with “Freudian” analogies but you are very easy to read.
You justify every act of terror done against us (and never condemn it), however you are the first one to comment on anything anti Albanian.

These replies were easy to predict, of course. So is my reply, too: you guys mean that one crime justifies the other, right? Not the first time I see such reply.

This is THE Balkan mentality - you just demonstrated it. And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 22:17)

I beg your pardon again?
Where do you ever saw me or anyone else justify any crime. Explaining an action does not mean justifying. Explaining why 100K Serbs left Kosova after, almost a million, first expelled, Albanians were returning home ,does not mean jusfifying. Explaining why orthodox churches were burned after thousands K-Albanians bodies were found dead and hundreds of thousands homes, villages livestock were burned, does not mean justifying. But you have got to be insane not to see this order of reality.

You know, I understand many Serbs here, even those with the hottest temper, because the matter in question is very sensitive to both our people, but what is the most irritating to read in here are your arguments over who has the right in this conflict, and those jokes of your, those autistic jokes that no one understands. All of us, Serbs and Albanians, have an interest to this subject, it affects directly or indirectly our lives and our existence or even simply our dignity.
But to you this is a game, which you seem to play day after day to spice your boring programing world in which you live in.

Pure BS. ☺
(Ataman, 28 January 2011 16:59)

Funny enough Ataman, that is the first thing that comes to my mind every time I read one of you “enciphered” comments.
What do you use, a 1024 or a 2048 RSA key pairs in the enciphering process?
You should use a stronger prime Ataman: these weak keys you’re using are doing you no favour.
So I guess, you are trying to convince me that you are actually completely unbiased.
And all those cynical and sick remarks of yours about us, our culture, our pride, our mothers and sisters and our heroes were just funny (and highly intellectual) jokes that we Albanians (the peasants) did not get, right?

Trying to sell seaman a fish Ataman?

"“We have no reason to fear an investigation. On the contrary, we are very interested in bringing the truth about Kosovo to the international public,”

Everyone can visit Prizren and take pictures of destroyed Serbian houses and churches. It's all out there just as you walk up the hill to the fortress.

This is the truth about Kosovo any tourist can see. Objections?
Ataman"

-- Do you recall the rapes, killings, destruction and utter misery that Serbs caused in Kosovo in 1999?

How low do you have to stoop to compare that with damaged 'property'????????

It takes a lot of 'character' to come clean on this forum as you have.
Objections????

Sali who ?? Totally insignificant person for us !

This response is purely insane. If you have the feelings you do - your place is either in a madman asylum or in a jail.
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I am really impressed. Whenever I think your comments can't get worse you always manage to surprise me... There is only one valid opinion here on this forum and that is yours. You are certainly a chosen one.

Sadly for scum like Berisha, Thaci and the ilk, the truth coming out is worse than anything wikileaks could muster about them. In the end, the truth will prevail and hopefully justice will be served - and these scumbags will have their day answering for the crimes they have committed.

And I am not even going into details about to what degree your assessment of Serbian-induced destruction is true.
(Ataman, 27 January 2011 22:17)
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No distortion of historical facts today? That's a real shame because I find your 'findings' always entertaining...

(Jovan, 28 January 2011 22:20)

capital letters stand for highliting

How is it at all racist?

Those specifically mentioned happen to be Albanian, but not every Albanian is like that.

This is just another weak attempt to get his people all emotionally amped for no reason.

I agree with Tomorr. We need decent Albanians and decent Serbs to work together for the future of our children. People want jobs, an education for their kids. A life free of corruption and violence. Why shouldn't ordinary decent folk in the Balkans live like everybody else in Europe. Scratch the surface and we're all the same.

well, ben, I don´t know where you have heard that capital letters "stand for highlighting" ... or wether you have ever heard of the term " netiquette "...

but, you made me smile though...

as I´ve said it: you are free to dream, but every dream comes to an end...

but, of course, this is all just serbian propaganda, right? ...and you Albanians are of course the descendants of the illyrians..., rhight? =)


Serbia sends a spy (rasuli burovich) to show an insane theory, explaning on Albanian culture/ origins,

I read rasuli's theory, is it any wounder why no credible encyclopedia/ historian accepts his theory?


except for those freaks of nature at thehistoryof(slav)macedonia.com

That is serbian propaganda


Proud to be Illyrian descendent.