Marty: EULEX powerless, ad hoc structure needed

Unfortunately there won't be any evidence in the organ harvesting case. Kosovo is a big mafia territory and anyone who opends his or her mouth will end up dead. Besides, the West will make sure any possible evidence won't come out, just like they have already. They will do what they have to do to protect their personel in Kosovo. Status quo is more important then the truth.
Until albanians come to terms with the evils their so called leaders are guilty of there won't be any peace any time soon.

He is absolutely right!

I so admire this man for facing personal insults and threats and still doing his job properly. For ensuring that witnesses will be properly protected because he knows otherwise there will be no case.

Also for sticking with it, and not just handing things over into a file that would be buried for good.

Thank goodness for people like Dick Marty who cut through all the crap.

Eulex are and have been part of the problem not the solution.

NEXT STEP: take it to the U.N where our solid majority will get us a mandated investigation. It's all been planned in Moscow since 2008. Enjoy the show called Re-integration With Serbia

Wow you Kos Albanians are so angry.

I know he is doing a lot of damage, but wouldn't it be better to take on board some of his criticisms, whilst rejecting others?

Trust me it won't help to get angry, actually it will make matters worse. In the eyes of the world you will look crazy (as Serbs appeared in the 90's when they raged against certain officials / media). At the same time this anger may rub off onto the Kos Albanian political class, wrong policies / things said to important internationals.

Negotiations have not been concluded yet, far from it. You cannot afford to make enemies and provoke.

I have to say that Marty is right - EULEX will not be able to conduct a good enough investigation. I too have read some of the intelligence / media reports. Protection of witnesses is woefully inadequate and EULEX is a force on the ground that needs to maintain the support of the Kosovo Albanian population.

It would therefore be better for an impartial investigation to be conducted. Lets not be silly about that its not a case of getting Russian or Serbs on the investigation - all that is necessary is to bring non partisan investigators whose only interest is getting to the bottom of the allegations.

Dick Marty looks like the right man for the job. Lets get witness protection in place and watch the evidence come flooding in.

It seems many K-Albanians have had enough of the poor situation in KiM and are ready to reveal the evils going on there. Brave people ready to make a change for good. These people need to be praised.

What you're saying old man is that you want someone els who have never been in Kosovo, knows nothing about the country or what took place beside your lies and want them to find evidence that doesnt exist? You looked for years, UNMIK did since Vojislav Sesalj first started spreading nationalistic rumors and EULEX as of today has NOTHING do work on, how about you give them a hand what to start looking for. Why do you keep avoiding them, they have send you TWO letters asking you to provide any kind of evidence, in respons you instead attack EULEX because you have absolutely nothing to back up your claims. You are a sad old man trying to make a name in the expense of the victims.

This liar & fraud will eksposed by EU and eulex. After then, true justice be served openly an publikly. He was pay for brutal lies

OK for you only Serbia or Russia are capable of conducting a "credible" investigation.

Is this statement an answer to EULEX who said many times and also repeated yesterday: Marty needs to provide credible evidence in order for us to start an investigation? Just a thought....

You know CoE is a political organ they can adopt a resolution to investigate the UFO crimes in Jupiter

but

EULEX or any court have to work based on CONCRETE, tangible EVIDENCES - which you ARE NOT PROVIDING.

Bottom line:

- Marty & Co form the Serbian propaganda machinery will keep this fairy tale alive with their lies on Serbian press

- The rest of the civilized world will demand PROOFS, tangible proofs that go beyond any reasonable doubt.

The naives and the lovers of the conspiracy theories will support the first group

The rational human beings will support the second.

Marty is so "right on" in his views and statements, that I am surprised he is not from the Balkans. He knows 100% how the justice system has operated in Kosovo, and must do all he can to set up an impartial investigation, and court, outside of any Balkan country.

Immediate term, Serbia will feel Kosova's and EU's wrath like with the car tags. This will backfire badly.
(Nasiri, 27 January 2011 16:05)
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Hmmm, why did all EU member representatives at the CoE vote in favour of the report? If they were upset with Serbia I would have expected them to vote against and pressure Serbia to remove it off the agenda. Simple fact, MI6, BND, FBI already know about these "lies" and as far as I can see they are not objecting to such allegations.

It doesn't seem to be backfiring at all. Looks like you guys are just thinking wishfully and continue to remain in denial. Don't worry, it will be your own people - KiM Albanians who will reveal the truth to all of these lies. Of course you guys will call them traitors but it doesn't mean they are lying. They are in fact very very brave people who are sick and tired of living in a mafia entity.

As an albanian, I hope that an independent ad hoc structure as Marty suggested is set up - as long as it does not consistute any serbs or russians investigators but only unbiased personnel. I also hope that EULEX can accomodate any suggestions that Marty has on how they can improve so that they can conduct a proper investigation.

And when both of these bodies come back with nothing, I expect Marty and CoE to make a public apology to Kosovo and pay for the damage they have caused.

Personally, I think this fool has achieved the political goals he set out to do and he knows he has no evidence and he is preparing the public for the fact that the investigation will come back with nothing - this way he can say 'I told you EU / Eulex could not conduct a proper investigation'. In the meantime serbs will continue to believe that organs were removed from serbs even if every investigating body in the world comes back with nothing.

Reluctantly I have to admit that this has been a PR disaster for Kosovo and it is job done for Marty and serbian prosecution.

He is absolutely right!

I so admire this man for facing personal insults and threats and still doing his job properly. For ensuring that witnesses will be properly protected because he knows otherwise there will be no case.

Also for sticking with it, and not just handing things over into a file that would be buried for good.

Thank goodness for people like Dick Marty who cut through all the crap.
(kate, 27 January 2011 10:51)
2 days ago the PACE passed a resolution based on Marty's report in which he outlined that Eulex should be given the support and funding needed to to investigate these allegations and that Albania and Kosovo be compelled to cooperate.
In less than 2 days he is saying EULEX is not the agency that should be given the investigation--kidn of flippant don't you think. What has happened in these 2 days?? For those who immediately jump on the Gardetto report about Witness protection, this report was released in July, 5 months before Marty's report.
EU and UN would be the only organizations with any type of authority to authorize such an investigation and Marty knows this, EU has their group in place and not likely to finance another operation to run paralell. UNSC is not likely to pass anything that cuts into the effectiveness of the EULEX mission.
So what could be his motivation, simple, to set the groundwork for claims that an investigation that counters his report was ineffective.
As far as your respect, by now, everyone knows the only requirement to attain that is to be anti-Albanian.

DICK MARTY is at last is feeling hot as the inevitable embarrassment is LOOMING. He appears to have ONLY artificial gossips and Serbian paid 'witnesses' that were promised by Serbian governemnt 2 things:

1. Money €100,000-€200,000 in exchange for declaring an orchastrated lie designed by Serbian Prosecutors

2. Never to reveal the name

Kosovo Intelligence Agency caught 3 Serbian spies (documented with videos as evidence)....

I think Marty is feeling the heat and knows that EULEX would LAUGH when they see Marty's "evidence". However, Dick Marty must pay his bill too.

I CAN'T wait to see Marty's "evidence" and have a laugh at it. Serbia is feeling bad too as they will be caught that they were the main sponsors of this fairy-tale story

Interesting times ahead

Ben, and others, just allow the EU judicial system, hopefully unbiased, to do its work. Marty is an investigator, not a prosecutor, so evidence will be presented by a prosecutor in a court of law, and if there is enough credible evidence, there will be a trail. So please, stop with all the Albanian conspiracy theories, and allow justice to do its work. If the KLA, and Albanian, leaders are innocent, they should not lose a moments sleep. The scope of Marty's findings, and sources are too huge, for the accusations to be fabricated. If they are, it will be a great day for Albanians, if the findings are proven true, it will be giant black eye, and a hell of a job for the US/EU to clean up.

Nikshala, when I started reading your comment, I thought to myself, here is an intelligent, level-headed Albanian, that knows what is right for his people but, reading on, you could not help yourself but fall back into the victimized, conspiracy-fighting poor Albanian. Allow the EU judicial system do its work, and the truth will prevail. The investigative findings by Marty are huge, and extremely serious, it would be near impossible to fabricate them. As for Eulex, you must know that they have near zero capacity to protect any witnesses. Why would you object to an impartial court being set up elsewhere but Kosovo? Marty is not from Kosovo, and he apparently knows quite well what went on there during the conflicts in his findings.

Why this guy don't ask to join the team of investigators himself,so he can see closer those "proves"

How do you say "ignorance" in Albanian?

Could he now be saying this because, EULEX has thrown the ball back in his court by requesting that he release his evidence. Is this smokescreen to cover that he has no evidence to release???
If he is interested in justice he will release this info. If not he will come up with reasons not to release it.

No, I think EULEX is the most capable of investigating this. They are the most informed, the most qualified. They have been working on the ground for years now,know how things work, relations between politicians, people and so on. They know the context. The worry about witnesses is legitimate but that is easily taken care of. Relocate them. There have been cases like this in the past. But the first thing Marty must do is let EULEX know the names of the witnesses. I was skeptical with those who were saying that Marty is biased, gave the man the benefit of the doubt but if he does not even want EULEX to investigate, a branch of the same EU in whose parliament he sits, there is something wrong.

Dick Marty has to tell new lies to cover old lies.
(ivan, 27 January 2011 16:59)

Do you have any concrete evidence of that?

dick marty is a clown. he has no evidence eu/us/ks/al/eulex asked him now more than 10 times to provide evidence but he has provided zero evidence because no evidence exist so this resolution is meaningless.

"It seems many K-Albanians have had enough of the poor situation in KiM and are ready to reveal the evils going on there."

When you have anything new from Carla fiction, than your kind of Serb will be taken seriously. Till now all the "news" from there sounds like an ugly teen girl that nobody wants to take to the prom kinda bs.

"Brave people ready to make a change for good. These"

Romans Byzintine Ottomans and Serbs out, brave indeed. ;)
They deserve a medal, amiright?

I wonder if our friendly Kosvoarian-conspiracy-theorists on this board, the ones who claim Marty's report is a Serbian based propaganda, one in which Serbia paid false witnesses, etc would care to look into the actual evidence from OSCE from 1999 prior to NATO's relenless bombardment of Serbia, regarding the facts and reality on the ground? As it states in these reports, there was no Serbian, or Yugoslavian sponsored ethnic cleansing anywhere near the figures used (made up) to justify NATO's actions. This is a body from Europe that was tasked to take very detailed accounts of what was actually happening, and it seems that Kosovo's war was purely based on propaganda.
Now perhaps it is these same propagandists from then that are now claiming Marty's propaganda using their powers propagan-dar to smell a fake.
Seems the shoe fit much better on the other foot didn't it?
To those calling for proof, evidence I wonder who you think you are? Are you part of the potential jury? Are you heads of state concerned with this issue at a geo-political level? Are you in any which way in the chain of information? If you are, you will get all the information availible before the rest of you that aren't. Thats how things tend to work. Important people know things before dregs and trolls and everyday dirt farmers.
And it is also possible to negate these acusations with evidence (unlike most of our theorist's beliefs). The list of missing persons from Kosovo is public and can be aquired. From that point, find every single person on that list that is alive and scratch them off. Then find all the bodies that have been buried (someone knows where those are too -- unless the diggers are now dead too) and exhume those bodies. Do dental, or other medical tests to determine who it is and how they perished. If the death was a legitamate death of war then check that person off the list. Once the list is empty then you've vindicated your stance. Take matters into your own hands, find some of those missing Serbians, and bring them back to their families, or let their families know of the fates that befell the fallen.
May all of the fallen souls (Albanian, Serbian, Roma, Bosnia, Montenegrin, Macedonian, Croatian, Slovenian, and any other group that wishes to be specifically singled out as seperate) rest in peace, and may the living ones try to find peace too.

dick marty is a clown. he has no evidence eu/us/ks/al/eulex asked him now more than 10 times to provide evidence but he has provided zero evidence because no evidence exist so this resolution is meaningless.

Dick Marty has to tell new lies to cover old lies.

No, I think EULEX is the most capable of investigating this. They are the most informed, the most qualified. They have been working on the ground for years now,know how things work, relations between politicians, people and so on. They know the context. The worry about witnesses is legitimate but that is easily taken care of. Relocate them. There have been cases like this in the past. But the first thing Marty must do is let EULEX know the names of the witnesses. I was skeptical with those who were saying that Marty is biased, gave the man the benefit of the doubt but if he does not even want EULEX to investigate, a branch of the same EU in whose parliament he sits, there is something wrong.
(KU, 27 January 2011 15:34)


I agree with you KU, but first there has to be a victim/s in order to investigate the crime. Why Serbs and Marty are talking about witnessess only, and no mention of victims. Marty should provide specific names of victims first, and than investigators have to look for prepetrators. If there is no victim, there is no crime.

A view from a member of the Czech non-profit organization Friends of Serbs in Kosovo. My dear Serbian friends, be strong in your just and righteous fight for your country. We are devoted supporters to your cause. I know Kosovo very well, I have visited with my colleagues a number of Serbian enclaves, villages and towns: Gračanica, Velika Hoča, Orahovac, Novake, Brezovica, Žač, Osojane, Kosovska Mitrovica, etc. Everywhere in this places, I have met brave, friendly and helpfulness people. I am not a Christian, but in Kosovo I have realized what really does it mean to be a Christian. Not only that. Now I know what does it mean to be a WHOLE MAN. Such people I have met in Kosovo.
Let me talk more concretely. In this time, the main interest of our organization is to collect money for a trip of Serbian children from Kosovo to visit the Czech Republic. It is our business. But, why I am talking about? You are not alone.

Contemporary revevations show, that you were right. Czech people keep fingers crossed for you. Hold on!

From my reading of what Albanians (and others who demand evidence at the time being) understand about criminal investigation I must conclude that the Albanian criminal investigation is something different from general European crime investigation process.

Here is how European crime investigators describe their work:

"A criminal investigation refers to the process of collecting information (or evidence) about a crime in order to:
1. determine if a crime has been committed;
2. identify the perpetrator;
3. apprehend the perpetrator; and
4. provide evidence to support a conviction in court.

"If the first three objectives are successfully attained, then the crime can be said to be solved. The major problem in conducting a criminal investigation is that not only is there potentially massive amounts of information available, but the relevance of the information is often unknown, the information is often incomplete, and the information is often inaccurate.

"Further, to be useful in proving guilt in court (where beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard), the evidence must have certain other qualities, and certain rules and procedures must be followed in collecting the evidence."

Dick Marty has said a number of times that it isn't he who can carry the evidence to court. He has no powers to do that. He only can raise believable concerns that a crime has been perpetrated.

In case he anyway chooses to reveal concrete bits of his findings (for example names of eyewitnesses), this happens only to a strictly limited audience. That audience doesn't consist of us, neither of normal members of Council of Europe (CoE), or of general EULEX staff.

Do I have to make any clearer?

Nikshala,
extremely bad for Kosova but it will be even worse for Serbia bc they started the lies and EU /EULEX is not happy. Dick's lies will also start to be ripped apart by people very soon, with Switzerland leading the way.

Eventually once true justice is served, the world will learn why, and that Dick Marty maliciously lied. With 'Shala' for last name, you know exactly what's going to happen.

Immediate term, Serbia will feel Kosova's and EU's wrath like with the car tags. This will backfire badly.

Dick Marty is a clown and I cannot wait to contribute to a SUE DICK MARTY FUND for damaging our Kosovar image and honor.

You're day is coming....you will face justice liar.

Mark my words.


Thanks,

why did all EU member representatives at the CoE vote in favour of the report?
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Read the report. Even Albania (through Rusmaili) voted to INVESTIGATE it and invited them in Albania. If someone says this may have happened, who can be against investigation? The Dick Marty said Thaci etc are guilty for it, but on report said it may have happened. He thinks he's so smart

Any 'ad hoc' prosecutor will be given powers to investigate ALL war crimes, in Kosova AND Serbia since all victims are equal and Albanians are missing 5 times as many as Serbs. Does Serbia really want that? After a week Dick M will run out of excuses

Dick Marty has to tell new lies to cover old lies.
(ivan, 27 January 2011 16:59)

Do you have any concrete evidence of that?
(John, 27 January 2011 22:31)
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Exactly. They are always screaming for evidence but fail miserably to produce anything to back up what they claim.
Just one link showing Dick Marty to be a liar would be sufficient.
Instead, this very credible man has earned his reputation by being just that, credible.

A view from a member of the Czech non-profit organization Friends of Serbs in Kosovo. My dear Serbian friends, be strong in your just and righteous fight for your country. We are devoted supporters to your cause. I know Kosovo very well, I have visited with my colleagues a number of Serbian enclaves, villages and towns: Gračanica, Velika Hoča, Orahovac, Novake, Brezovica, Žač, Osojane, Kosovska Mitrovica, etc. Everywhere in this places, I have met brave, friendly and helpfulness people. I am not a Christian, but in Kosovo I have realized what really does it mean to be a Christian. Not only that. Now I know what does it mean to be a WHOLE MAN. Such people I have met in Kosovo.
Let me talk more concretely. In this time, the main interest of our organization is to collect money for a trip of Serbian children from Kosovo to visit the Czech Republic. It is our business. But, why I am talking about? You are not alone.

Contemporary revevations show, that you were right. Czech people keep fingers crossed for you. Hold on!
(Karel Hyka, 28 January 2011 02:11)

Deep respect to you, Karel. I am not religious either, but every time I am in Kosovo I am becoming closer and closer to the idea to convert to Pravoslavy, if not for other reason, just to show my support for the suffering.

Thanks for your job!

doesn't consist of us, neither of normal members of Council of Europe (CoE), or of general EULEX staff.

Do I have to make any clearer?
(Olli, 27 January 2011 22:12)

thanks Olli, very good description how "our system" works, but frankly you are loosing your time with the kind of low level k-trolls posting here. They are so blind that they would miss an elephant in front of their nose.
I have always admired Mr Marty for his work and I know that, as always, his work will prevail and the truth, whatever it is, will surface.

"Marty should provide specific names of victims first, and than investigators have to look for prepetrators. If there is no victim, there is no crime."
(Agim Kelmendi, 27 January 2011 17:27)

The names of disappeared Serbs are known I believe. In the link that you (I think it was you?) posted from the human rights watch web site few days ago, among hundreds of Kosovo Albanian civilians killed and disappeared are also names of some Serb civilians killed or disappeared. This is not news. Serbs know, Albanians know, EU knows, everybody knows that there were Serb civilians killed as well. And investigations on that must happen (as investigations on killed and disappeared Albanians must happen too, not with the pace of 3-4 people a year as Serbia is doing just to have an alibi). It will not be hard for Marty to submit a list of their names as possible victims of organ trade.

The real news is the allegations of organ trade and allegations of involvement of Thaci and those around him with that. For which apparently, according to Marty, there are witnesses who cannot speak with EULEX because they will be killed.

The news of today (if we believe Blic of course) that Marty does not want EULEX to work on this is really stunning. Marty is a member of a political body of the EU, PACE. Trying to interfere with a judicial body of the EU, EULEX. First he says "it is not my job to investigate, I just put all the pieces of information together". Ok, good job. Now he says to EULEX "it is not your job to investigate either". You know who else is doing something like that these days? Sali Berisha in Albania. And Berlusconi in Italy. They say "judges are corrupt, prosecution is not able to do its job". Marty is in collision course with the basic principles on which EU is founded. I believe everything he does from now on should be associated with PACE. If I were in government in Kosovo (oops, there is no government in Kosovo yet), I would ask PACE, if Marty's position (that EULEX cannot do the job European tax payers (including Ron, the Swiss, Kate and others) are paying for) on EULEX is PACE's position too. Ultimately he is undermining the authority of EULEX, something we have seen only the Serbian government does.

Let's suppose there is some other group set up only for this case. let's call it LEXEU. What would they do better? They WOULD ask EULEX support. Wouldn't EULEX be in a difficult position inside Kosovo anyway, since it is cooperating with LEXEU? Also, they too WOULD ask Marty for the witness names. Let's suppose MARTY gave LEXEU the names of the witnesses. Then what? Would LEXEU be better in protecting them? How and Why? All the arguments that EULEX cannot do its job will not go away with the creation of another group.
The alternative, giving Belgrade and Pristina this job is not feasible either in my opinion.

NEXT STEP: take it to the U.N where our solid majority will get us a mandated investigation. It's all been planned in Moscow since 2008. Enjoy the show called Re-integration With Serbia
(highduke, 27 January 2011 17:03)
And how many times have you condemned the so-called "NATO-court" the ICTY at the Hague, and who set that up? oh yeah it was the UN, right
Instead of re-integration with Serbia I think you will see total disintegration of any Serbia-Kosovo relationship.

P.S.
While Marty says EULEX is useless, Jeremic says the following in Africa (according to B92's article):
“In the interest of sustainable peace and reconciliation in the Balkans, on behalf of the Republic of Serbia, I ask the member states of the African Union to support the prompt carrying out of a full and independent criminal investigation of these charges-one that is both internationally mandated and internationally accountable, with ultimate reporting obligations to a single authority,” he said."

For Jeremic they are not allegations, they are already charges. But the most interesting stuff is the "independent" bit. Bet you EULEX is not independent. But it must be "both internationally mandated and internationally accountable, with ultimate reporting obligations to a single authority"

What does this mean? Next will come the request of involving the UN into this. Is it going to be the ICTY in Hague or something different? ICTY is bad too according to Marty, because they "destroyed evidence", and besides their mandate will expire soon, so no, the request/suggestion coming from Marty/Jeremic or somebody else might be for a totally new structure of the UN to investigate these "charges". Which, contrary to EULEX and ICTY will be able to do this job because, because, because... none knows. It is really starting to look like instead of wanting a speedy solution and investigations, Marty/Jeremic are just trying to delay them. Hope I am wrong though.

dick said that: "...there is a danger that the whole story could go no further than...I do not think EULEX, the way it is forced to operate today and the way it is organized" So, nothing from the dick's report.

I am becoming closer and closer to the idea to convert to Pravoslavy, if not for other reason, just to show my support for the suffering.

(Ataman, 28 January 2011 15:27)

and when you visit Gaza or West Bank you are close to convert to Islam i presume.

Are you paid to ridiculase yourslf or you jut like it???

Thanks you made my day man. :)

(Olli, 27 January 2011 22:12)

Olli Eulex said it clearly:

In order for us to start an investigation we need some concrete proof/s.

It is not that any claim will be investigated as then we would need more investigators than citizens (as one citizen can make more than one crime). Thus only the crimes that have happened for real (for e.g. there is a dead body) or any other concrete evidence will be investigated.

Imagine how it would be if I would say: investigate on Olly as he might have robbed the bank- he lives there close. And then tomorrow investigate on Olli since he might have robbed the old ladies pension. And so on - the investigative personnel should be on my service to persecute you as much as I want?????

Finally, it was EULEX that asked for proofs in order for them to be able to start investigation.

What have Albanians to do with the EULEX requests??? Why are you sarcastic with Albanians for the EULEXs request???

Or perhaps love pointing finger on Albanians??

I am sorry but I cannot make it any clearer than this.

Do I have to make any clearer?
(Olli, 27 January 2011 22:12)

Olli, you can repeat 100 times the same. Even if some of them understand - they won't ever admit because it's not why they are here. There is largely two groups. I do not want to talk about the group/1 which largely corresponds to Albanians in the "real world". The group/2 is here to intimidate Serbian or pro-Serbian posters and hammer them into the ground no matter what. Some of them not even living in Central Europe - but in the "West" or even over the ocean.

As "Rote" from Russia recently wrote: the best would be probably just ignore them - they would disappear if not being addressed. Unfortunately this is not possible to execute perfectly because some "Serbs" would lose patience and jump the gun, feeding a troll.

I am thinking the second-best is to follow: "if you have to feed a troll - feed him with food he can't digest" principe. Constant mocking is certainly what they can't digest. Here comes that "je¿" thing as an example but it's by far not perfect. I am also using it in lieu of "smileys", to bad B92 does not have "real" smileys - somewhat they may think to introduce. Would change a lot, IMO - for better. At least, Unicode knows a few:

☺, ☻, ☹

but the current font used is probably to small to see them.

Do you have any concrete evidence of that?
(John, 27 January 2011 22:31)

There is Dick who has received two requests to provide evidence.

"All the arguments that EULEX cannot do its job will not go away with the creation of another group. "
(KU, 27 January 2011 20:34)
Why not? The proble is: EULEX is operating and located in Kosovo. As soon as some EULEX members are starting to investigate, they are in a similar danger as the witnesses in Kosovo. Probably King Thaci would even publish a 'EULEX investigator list', so that the witch hunt can start.

"Why not? The proble is: EULEX is operating and located in Kosovo. As soon as some EULEX members are starting to investigate, they are in a similar danger as the witnesses in Kosovo. Probably King Thaci would even publish a 'EULEX investigator list', so that the witch hunt can start."
(Top, 28 January 2011 15:29)

Did you read this:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/pressroom.php?yyyy=2011&mm=01&nav_id=72340

And this:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=01&dd=28&nav_id=72398

I just did and realized all this talk is pointless. COE says that EULEX must conduct the investigations. If Marty's declarations on EULEX correspond to truth (you never know with Daily Blic), then he is going against the document he himself supported, signed and voted for. the document of a European body.

Claiming that EULEX is in danger because it investigates therefore it should not investigate defeats the whole purpose of EULEX. That is why they are there, to investigate. Aren't they always in danger then? Besides, EULEX has demonstrated that it can deal with people in high up positions. The investigation of the transportation minister for example. Nothing bad happened to EULEX members.

Third option is that this is all a charade. Marty already gave the names of the people he said he spoke with to EULEX but we do not know about it, of course.

book revenue will only take you so far, ask your protege in Argentina, lack of substance will be your downfall.

dick marty is a clown. he has no evidence eu/us/ks/al/eulex asked him now more than 10 times to provide evidence but he has provided zero evidence because no evidence exist so this resolution is meaningless.
(mijari, 27 January 2011 12:02)

The evidence is there, but theres a reason why he isnt showing it to you, firstly there is physical evidence, previous physical evidence was mysteriously destroyed, then there are the dozens of (predominantly Albanian witnesses),after what happened to the witnesses at the Hardinaj trial, I very much doubt that they'll reveal them in the short term.

i dont know how to call you a sir or a joker by the way you are very funny.

This liar & fraud will eksposed by EU and eulex. After then, true justice be served openly an publikly. He was pay for brutal lies

OK for you only Serbia or Russia are capable of conducting a "credible" investigation.

Is this statement an answer to EULEX who said many times and also repeated yesterday: Marty needs to provide credible evidence in order for us to start an investigation? Just a thought....

You know CoE is a political organ they can adopt a resolution to investigate the UFO crimes in Jupiter

but

EULEX or any court have to work based on CONCRETE, tangible EVIDENCES - which you ARE NOT PROVIDING.

Bottom line:

- Marty & Co form the Serbian propaganda machinery will keep this fairy tale alive with their lies on Serbian press

- The rest of the civilized world will demand PROOFS, tangible proofs that go beyond any reasonable doubt.

The naives and the lovers of the conspiracy theories will support the first group

The rational human beings will support the second.

What you're saying old man is that you want someone els who have never been in Kosovo, knows nothing about the country or what took place beside your lies and want them to find evidence that doesnt exist? You looked for years, UNMIK did since Vojislav Sesalj first started spreading nationalistic rumors and EULEX as of today has NOTHING do work on, how about you give them a hand what to start looking for. Why do you keep avoiding them, they have send you TWO letters asking you to provide any kind of evidence, in respons you instead attack EULEX because you have absolutely nothing to back up your claims. You are a sad old man trying to make a name in the expense of the victims.

dick marty is a clown. he has no evidence eu/us/ks/al/eulex asked him now more than 10 times to provide evidence but he has provided zero evidence because no evidence exist so this resolution is meaningless.

dick marty is a clown. he has no evidence eu/us/ks/al/eulex asked him now more than 10 times to provide evidence but he has provided zero evidence because no evidence exist so this resolution is meaningless.

Dick Marty has to tell new lies to cover old lies.

No, I think EULEX is the most capable of investigating this. They are the most informed, the most qualified. They have been working on the ground for years now,know how things work, relations between politicians, people and so on. They know the context. The worry about witnesses is legitimate but that is easily taken care of. Relocate them. There have been cases like this in the past. But the first thing Marty must do is let EULEX know the names of the witnesses. I was skeptical with those who were saying that Marty is biased, gave the man the benefit of the doubt but if he does not even want EULEX to investigate, a branch of the same EU in whose parliament he sits, there is something wrong.
(KU, 27 January 2011 15:34)


I agree with you KU, but first there has to be a victim/s in order to investigate the crime. Why Serbs and Marty are talking about witnessess only, and no mention of victims. Marty should provide specific names of victims first, and than investigators have to look for prepetrators. If there is no victim, there is no crime.

He is absolutely right!

I so admire this man for facing personal insults and threats and still doing his job properly. For ensuring that witnesses will be properly protected because he knows otherwise there will be no case.

Also for sticking with it, and not just handing things over into a file that would be buried for good.

Thank goodness for people like Dick Marty who cut through all the crap.

Why this guy don't ask to join the team of investigators himself,so he can see closer those "proves"

Could he now be saying this because, EULEX has thrown the ball back in his court by requesting that he release his evidence. Is this smokescreen to cover that he has no evidence to release???
If he is interested in justice he will release this info. If not he will come up with reasons not to release it.

Nikshala,
extremely bad for Kosova but it will be even worse for Serbia bc they started the lies and EU /EULEX is not happy. Dick's lies will also start to be ripped apart by people very soon, with Switzerland leading the way.

Eventually once true justice is served, the world will learn why, and that Dick Marty maliciously lied. With 'Shala' for last name, you know exactly what's going to happen.

Immediate term, Serbia will feel Kosova's and EU's wrath like with the car tags. This will backfire badly.

DICK MARTY is at last is feeling hot as the inevitable embarrassment is LOOMING. He appears to have ONLY artificial gossips and Serbian paid 'witnesses' that were promised by Serbian governemnt 2 things:

1. Money €100,000-€200,000 in exchange for declaring an orchastrated lie designed by Serbian Prosecutors

2. Never to reveal the name

Kosovo Intelligence Agency caught 3 Serbian spies (documented with videos as evidence)....

I think Marty is feeling the heat and knows that EULEX would LAUGH when they see Marty's "evidence". However, Dick Marty must pay his bill too.

I CAN'T wait to see Marty's "evidence" and have a laugh at it. Serbia is feeling bad too as they will be caught that they were the main sponsors of this fairy-tale story

Interesting times ahead

Dick Marty is a clown and I cannot wait to contribute to a SUE DICK MARTY FUND for damaging our Kosovar image and honor.

You're day is coming....you will face justice liar.

Mark my words.


Thanks,

Unfortunately there won't be any evidence in the organ harvesting case. Kosovo is a big mafia territory and anyone who opends his or her mouth will end up dead. Besides, the West will make sure any possible evidence won't come out, just like they have already. They will do what they have to do to protect their personel in Kosovo. Status quo is more important then the truth.
Until albanians come to terms with the evils their so called leaders are guilty of there won't be any peace any time soon.

He is absolutely right!

I so admire this man for facing personal insults and threats and still doing his job properly. For ensuring that witnesses will be properly protected because he knows otherwise there will be no case.

Also for sticking with it, and not just handing things over into a file that would be buried for good.

Thank goodness for people like Dick Marty who cut through all the crap.
(kate, 27 January 2011 10:51)
2 days ago the PACE passed a resolution based on Marty's report in which he outlined that Eulex should be given the support and funding needed to to investigate these allegations and that Albania and Kosovo be compelled to cooperate.
In less than 2 days he is saying EULEX is not the agency that should be given the investigation--kidn of flippant don't you think. What has happened in these 2 days?? For those who immediately jump on the Gardetto report about Witness protection, this report was released in July, 5 months before Marty's report.
EU and UN would be the only organizations with any type of authority to authorize such an investigation and Marty knows this, EU has their group in place and not likely to finance another operation to run paralell. UNSC is not likely to pass anything that cuts into the effectiveness of the EULEX mission.
So what could be his motivation, simple, to set the groundwork for claims that an investigation that counters his report was ineffective.
As far as your respect, by now, everyone knows the only requirement to attain that is to be anti-Albanian.

As an albanian, I hope that an independent ad hoc structure as Marty suggested is set up - as long as it does not consistute any serbs or russians investigators but only unbiased personnel. I also hope that EULEX can accomodate any suggestions that Marty has on how they can improve so that they can conduct a proper investigation.

And when both of these bodies come back with nothing, I expect Marty and CoE to make a public apology to Kosovo and pay for the damage they have caused.

Personally, I think this fool has achieved the political goals he set out to do and he knows he has no evidence and he is preparing the public for the fact that the investigation will come back with nothing - this way he can say 'I told you EU / Eulex could not conduct a proper investigation'. In the meantime serbs will continue to believe that organs were removed from serbs even if every investigating body in the world comes back with nothing.

Reluctantly I have to admit that this has been a PR disaster for Kosovo and it is job done for Marty and serbian prosecution.

Dick Marty looks like the right man for the job. Lets get witness protection in place and watch the evidence come flooding in.

It seems many K-Albanians have had enough of the poor situation in KiM and are ready to reveal the evils going on there. Brave people ready to make a change for good. These people need to be praised.

why did all EU member representatives at the CoE vote in favour of the report?
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Read the report. Even Albania (through Rusmaili) voted to INVESTIGATE it and invited them in Albania. If someone says this may have happened, who can be against investigation? The Dick Marty said Thaci etc are guilty for it, but on report said it may have happened. He thinks he's so smart

Any 'ad hoc' prosecutor will be given powers to investigate ALL war crimes, in Kosova AND Serbia since all victims are equal and Albanians are missing 5 times as many as Serbs. Does Serbia really want that? After a week Dick M will run out of excuses

"It seems many K-Albanians have had enough of the poor situation in KiM and are ready to reveal the evils going on there."

When you have anything new from Carla fiction, than your kind of Serb will be taken seriously. Till now all the "news" from there sounds like an ugly teen girl that nobody wants to take to the prom kinda bs.

"Brave people ready to make a change for good. These"

Romans Byzintine Ottomans and Serbs out, brave indeed. ;)
They deserve a medal, amiright?

NEXT STEP: take it to the U.N where our solid majority will get us a mandated investigation. It's all been planned in Moscow since 2008. Enjoy the show called Re-integration With Serbia

No, I think EULEX is the most capable of investigating this. They are the most informed, the most qualified. They have been working on the ground for years now,know how things work, relations between politicians, people and so on. They know the context. The worry about witnesses is legitimate but that is easily taken care of. Relocate them. There have been cases like this in the past. But the first thing Marty must do is let EULEX know the names of the witnesses. I was skeptical with those who were saying that Marty is biased, gave the man the benefit of the doubt but if he does not even want EULEX to investigate, a branch of the same EU in whose parliament he sits, there is something wrong.

Wow you Kos Albanians are so angry.

I know he is doing a lot of damage, but wouldn't it be better to take on board some of his criticisms, whilst rejecting others?

Trust me it won't help to get angry, actually it will make matters worse. In the eyes of the world you will look crazy (as Serbs appeared in the 90's when they raged against certain officials / media). At the same time this anger may rub off onto the Kos Albanian political class, wrong policies / things said to important internationals.

Negotiations have not been concluded yet, far from it. You cannot afford to make enemies and provoke.

I have to say that Marty is right - EULEX will not be able to conduct a good enough investigation. I too have read some of the intelligence / media reports. Protection of witnesses is woefully inadequate and EULEX is a force on the ground that needs to maintain the support of the Kosovo Albanian population.

It would therefore be better for an impartial investigation to be conducted. Lets not be silly about that its not a case of getting Russian or Serbs on the investigation - all that is necessary is to bring non partisan investigators whose only interest is getting to the bottom of the allegations.

Immediate term, Serbia will feel Kosova's and EU's wrath like with the car tags. This will backfire badly.
(Nasiri, 27 January 2011 16:05)
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Hmmm, why did all EU member representatives at the CoE vote in favour of the report? If they were upset with Serbia I would have expected them to vote against and pressure Serbia to remove it off the agenda. Simple fact, MI6, BND, FBI already know about these "lies" and as far as I can see they are not objecting to such allegations.

It doesn't seem to be backfiring at all. Looks like you guys are just thinking wishfully and continue to remain in denial. Don't worry, it will be your own people - KiM Albanians who will reveal the truth to all of these lies. Of course you guys will call them traitors but it doesn't mean they are lying. They are in fact very very brave people who are sick and tired of living in a mafia entity.

dick said that: "...there is a danger that the whole story could go no further than...I do not think EULEX, the way it is forced to operate today and the way it is organized" So, nothing from the dick's report.

Do you have any concrete evidence of that?
(John, 27 January 2011 22:31)

There is Dick who has received two requests to provide evidence.

"Marty should provide specific names of victims first, and than investigators have to look for prepetrators. If there is no victim, there is no crime."
(Agim Kelmendi, 27 January 2011 17:27)

The names of disappeared Serbs are known I believe. In the link that you (I think it was you?) posted from the human rights watch web site few days ago, among hundreds of Kosovo Albanian civilians killed and disappeared are also names of some Serb civilians killed or disappeared. This is not news. Serbs know, Albanians know, EU knows, everybody knows that there were Serb civilians killed as well. And investigations on that must happen (as investigations on killed and disappeared Albanians must happen too, not with the pace of 3-4 people a year as Serbia is doing just to have an alibi). It will not be hard for Marty to submit a list of their names as possible victims of organ trade.

The real news is the allegations of organ trade and allegations of involvement of Thaci and those around him with that. For which apparently, according to Marty, there are witnesses who cannot speak with EULEX because they will be killed.

The news of today (if we believe Blic of course) that Marty does not want EULEX to work on this is really stunning. Marty is a member of a political body of the EU, PACE. Trying to interfere with a judicial body of the EU, EULEX. First he says "it is not my job to investigate, I just put all the pieces of information together". Ok, good job. Now he says to EULEX "it is not your job to investigate either". You know who else is doing something like that these days? Sali Berisha in Albania. And Berlusconi in Italy. They say "judges are corrupt, prosecution is not able to do its job". Marty is in collision course with the basic principles on which EU is founded. I believe everything he does from now on should be associated with PACE. If I were in government in Kosovo (oops, there is no government in Kosovo yet), I would ask PACE, if Marty's position (that EULEX cannot do the job European tax payers (including Ron, the Swiss, Kate and others) are paying for) on EULEX is PACE's position too. Ultimately he is undermining the authority of EULEX, something we have seen only the Serbian government does.

Let's suppose there is some other group set up only for this case. let's call it LEXEU. What would they do better? They WOULD ask EULEX support. Wouldn't EULEX be in a difficult position inside Kosovo anyway, since it is cooperating with LEXEU? Also, they too WOULD ask Marty for the witness names. Let's suppose MARTY gave LEXEU the names of the witnesses. Then what? Would LEXEU be better in protecting them? How and Why? All the arguments that EULEX cannot do its job will not go away with the creation of another group.
The alternative, giving Belgrade and Pristina this job is not feasible either in my opinion.

(Olli, 27 January 2011 22:12)

Olli Eulex said it clearly:

In order for us to start an investigation we need some concrete proof/s.

It is not that any claim will be investigated as then we would need more investigators than citizens (as one citizen can make more than one crime). Thus only the crimes that have happened for real (for e.g. there is a dead body) or any other concrete evidence will be investigated.

Imagine how it would be if I would say: investigate on Olly as he might have robbed the bank- he lives there close. And then tomorrow investigate on Olli since he might have robbed the old ladies pension. And so on - the investigative personnel should be on my service to persecute you as much as I want?????

Finally, it was EULEX that asked for proofs in order for them to be able to start investigation.

What have Albanians to do with the EULEX requests??? Why are you sarcastic with Albanians for the EULEXs request???

Or perhaps love pointing finger on Albanians??

I am sorry but I cannot make it any clearer than this.

A view from a member of the Czech non-profit organization Friends of Serbs in Kosovo. My dear Serbian friends, be strong in your just and righteous fight for your country. We are devoted supporters to your cause. I know Kosovo very well, I have visited with my colleagues a number of Serbian enclaves, villages and towns: Gračanica, Velika Hoča, Orahovac, Novake, Brezovica, Žač, Osojane, Kosovska Mitrovica, etc. Everywhere in this places, I have met brave, friendly and helpfulness people. I am not a Christian, but in Kosovo I have realized what really does it mean to be a Christian. Not only that. Now I know what does it mean to be a WHOLE MAN. Such people I have met in Kosovo.
Let me talk more concretely. In this time, the main interest of our organization is to collect money for a trip of Serbian children from Kosovo to visit the Czech Republic. It is our business. But, why I am talking about? You are not alone.

Contemporary revevations show, that you were right. Czech people keep fingers crossed for you. Hold on!

Nikshala, when I started reading your comment, I thought to myself, here is an intelligent, level-headed Albanian, that knows what is right for his people but, reading on, you could not help yourself but fall back into the victimized, conspiracy-fighting poor Albanian. Allow the EU judicial system do its work, and the truth will prevail. The investigative findings by Marty are huge, and extremely serious, it would be near impossible to fabricate them. As for Eulex, you must know that they have near zero capacity to protect any witnesses. Why would you object to an impartial court being set up elsewhere but Kosovo? Marty is not from Kosovo, and he apparently knows quite well what went on there during the conflicts in his findings.

I wonder if our friendly Kosvoarian-conspiracy-theorists on this board, the ones who claim Marty's report is a Serbian based propaganda, one in which Serbia paid false witnesses, etc would care to look into the actual evidence from OSCE from 1999 prior to NATO's relenless bombardment of Serbia, regarding the facts and reality on the ground? As it states in these reports, there was no Serbian, or Yugoslavian sponsored ethnic cleansing anywhere near the figures used (made up) to justify NATO's actions. This is a body from Europe that was tasked to take very detailed accounts of what was actually happening, and it seems that Kosovo's war was purely based on propaganda.
Now perhaps it is these same propagandists from then that are now claiming Marty's propaganda using their powers propagan-dar to smell a fake.
Seems the shoe fit much better on the other foot didn't it?
To those calling for proof, evidence I wonder who you think you are? Are you part of the potential jury? Are you heads of state concerned with this issue at a geo-political level? Are you in any which way in the chain of information? If you are, you will get all the information availible before the rest of you that aren't. Thats how things tend to work. Important people know things before dregs and trolls and everyday dirt farmers.
And it is also possible to negate these acusations with evidence (unlike most of our theorist's beliefs). The list of missing persons from Kosovo is public and can be aquired. From that point, find every single person on that list that is alive and scratch them off. Then find all the bodies that have been buried (someone knows where those are too -- unless the diggers are now dead too) and exhume those bodies. Do dental, or other medical tests to determine who it is and how they perished. If the death was a legitamate death of war then check that person off the list. Once the list is empty then you've vindicated your stance. Take matters into your own hands, find some of those missing Serbians, and bring them back to their families, or let their families know of the fates that befell the fallen.
May all of the fallen souls (Albanian, Serbian, Roma, Bosnia, Montenegrin, Macedonian, Croatian, Slovenian, and any other group that wishes to be specifically singled out as seperate) rest in peace, and may the living ones try to find peace too.

NEXT STEP: take it to the U.N where our solid majority will get us a mandated investigation. It's all been planned in Moscow since 2008. Enjoy the show called Re-integration With Serbia
(highduke, 27 January 2011 17:03)
And how many times have you condemned the so-called "NATO-court" the ICTY at the Hague, and who set that up? oh yeah it was the UN, right
Instead of re-integration with Serbia I think you will see total disintegration of any Serbia-Kosovo relationship.

Marty is so "right on" in his views and statements, that I am surprised he is not from the Balkans. He knows 100% how the justice system has operated in Kosovo, and must do all he can to set up an impartial investigation, and court, outside of any Balkan country.

How do you say "ignorance" in Albanian?

From my reading of what Albanians (and others who demand evidence at the time being) understand about criminal investigation I must conclude that the Albanian criminal investigation is something different from general European crime investigation process.

Here is how European crime investigators describe their work:

"A criminal investigation refers to the process of collecting information (or evidence) about a crime in order to:
1. determine if a crime has been committed;
2. identify the perpetrator;
3. apprehend the perpetrator; and
4. provide evidence to support a conviction in court.

"If the first three objectives are successfully attained, then the crime can be said to be solved. The major problem in conducting a criminal investigation is that not only is there potentially massive amounts of information available, but the relevance of the information is often unknown, the information is often incomplete, and the information is often inaccurate.

"Further, to be useful in proving guilt in court (where beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard), the evidence must have certain other qualities, and certain rules and procedures must be followed in collecting the evidence."

Dick Marty has said a number of times that it isn't he who can carry the evidence to court. He has no powers to do that. He only can raise believable concerns that a crime has been perpetrated.

In case he anyway chooses to reveal concrete bits of his findings (for example names of eyewitnesses), this happens only to a strictly limited audience. That audience doesn't consist of us, neither of normal members of Council of Europe (CoE), or of general EULEX staff.

Do I have to make any clearer?

Eulex are and have been part of the problem not the solution.

Ben, and others, just allow the EU judicial system, hopefully unbiased, to do its work. Marty is an investigator, not a prosecutor, so evidence will be presented by a prosecutor in a court of law, and if there is enough credible evidence, there will be a trail. So please, stop with all the Albanian conspiracy theories, and allow justice to do its work. If the KLA, and Albanian, leaders are innocent, they should not lose a moments sleep. The scope of Marty's findings, and sources are too huge, for the accusations to be fabricated. If they are, it will be a great day for Albanians, if the findings are proven true, it will be giant black eye, and a hell of a job for the US/EU to clean up.

Dick Marty has to tell new lies to cover old lies.
(ivan, 27 January 2011 16:59)

Do you have any concrete evidence of that?

doesn't consist of us, neither of normal members of Council of Europe (CoE), or of general EULEX staff.

Do I have to make any clearer?
(Olli, 27 January 2011 22:12)

thanks Olli, very good description how "our system" works, but frankly you are loosing your time with the kind of low level k-trolls posting here. They are so blind that they would miss an elephant in front of their nose.
I have always admired Mr Marty for his work and I know that, as always, his work will prevail and the truth, whatever it is, will surface.

P.S.
While Marty says EULEX is useless, Jeremic says the following in Africa (according to B92's article):
“In the interest of sustainable peace and reconciliation in the Balkans, on behalf of the Republic of Serbia, I ask the member states of the African Union to support the prompt carrying out of a full and independent criminal investigation of these charges-one that is both internationally mandated and internationally accountable, with ultimate reporting obligations to a single authority,” he said."

For Jeremic they are not allegations, they are already charges. But the most interesting stuff is the "independent" bit. Bet you EULEX is not independent. But it must be "both internationally mandated and internationally accountable, with ultimate reporting obligations to a single authority"

What does this mean? Next will come the request of involving the UN into this. Is it going to be the ICTY in Hague or something different? ICTY is bad too according to Marty, because they "destroyed evidence", and besides their mandate will expire soon, so no, the request/suggestion coming from Marty/Jeremic or somebody else might be for a totally new structure of the UN to investigate these "charges". Which, contrary to EULEX and ICTY will be able to do this job because, because, because... none knows. It is really starting to look like instead of wanting a speedy solution and investigations, Marty/Jeremic are just trying to delay them. Hope I am wrong though.

Dick Marty has to tell new lies to cover old lies.
(ivan, 27 January 2011 16:59)

Do you have any concrete evidence of that?
(John, 27 January 2011 22:31)
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Exactly. They are always screaming for evidence but fail miserably to produce anything to back up what they claim.
Just one link showing Dick Marty to be a liar would be sufficient.
Instead, this very credible man has earned his reputation by being just that, credible.

Do I have to make any clearer?
(Olli, 27 January 2011 22:12)

Olli, you can repeat 100 times the same. Even if some of them understand - they won't ever admit because it's not why they are here. There is largely two groups. I do not want to talk about the group/1 which largely corresponds to Albanians in the "real world". The group/2 is here to intimidate Serbian or pro-Serbian posters and hammer them into the ground no matter what. Some of them not even living in Central Europe - but in the "West" or even over the ocean.

As "Rote" from Russia recently wrote: the best would be probably just ignore them - they would disappear if not being addressed. Unfortunately this is not possible to execute perfectly because some "Serbs" would lose patience and jump the gun, feeding a troll.

I am thinking the second-best is to follow: "if you have to feed a troll - feed him with food he can't digest" principe. Constant mocking is certainly what they can't digest. Here comes that "je¿" thing as an example but it's by far not perfect. I am also using it in lieu of "smileys", to bad B92 does not have "real" smileys - somewhat they may think to introduce. Would change a lot, IMO - for better. At least, Unicode knows a few:

☺, ☻, ☹

but the current font used is probably to small to see them.

A view from a member of the Czech non-profit organization Friends of Serbs in Kosovo. My dear Serbian friends, be strong in your just and righteous fight for your country. We are devoted supporters to your cause. I know Kosovo very well, I have visited with my colleagues a number of Serbian enclaves, villages and towns: Gračanica, Velika Hoča, Orahovac, Novake, Brezovica, Žač, Osojane, Kosovska Mitrovica, etc. Everywhere in this places, I have met brave, friendly and helpfulness people. I am not a Christian, but in Kosovo I have realized what really does it mean to be a Christian. Not only that. Now I know what does it mean to be a WHOLE MAN. Such people I have met in Kosovo.
Let me talk more concretely. In this time, the main interest of our organization is to collect money for a trip of Serbian children from Kosovo to visit the Czech Republic. It is our business. But, why I am talking about? You are not alone.

Contemporary revevations show, that you were right. Czech people keep fingers crossed for you. Hold on!
(Karel Hyka, 28 January 2011 02:11)

Deep respect to you, Karel. I am not religious either, but every time I am in Kosovo I am becoming closer and closer to the idea to convert to Pravoslavy, if not for other reason, just to show my support for the suffering.

Thanks for your job!

"All the arguments that EULEX cannot do its job will not go away with the creation of another group. "
(KU, 27 January 2011 20:34)
Why not? The proble is: EULEX is operating and located in Kosovo. As soon as some EULEX members are starting to investigate, they are in a similar danger as the witnesses in Kosovo. Probably King Thaci would even publish a 'EULEX investigator list', so that the witch hunt can start.

book revenue will only take you so far, ask your protege in Argentina, lack of substance will be your downfall.

I am becoming closer and closer to the idea to convert to Pravoslavy, if not for other reason, just to show my support for the suffering.

(Ataman, 28 January 2011 15:27)

and when you visit Gaza or West Bank you are close to convert to Islam i presume.

Are you paid to ridiculase yourslf or you jut like it???

Thanks you made my day man. :)

i dont know how to call you a sir or a joker by the way you are very funny.

"Why not? The proble is: EULEX is operating and located in Kosovo. As soon as some EULEX members are starting to investigate, they are in a similar danger as the witnesses in Kosovo. Probably King Thaci would even publish a 'EULEX investigator list', so that the witch hunt can start."
(Top, 28 January 2011 15:29)

Did you read this:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/pressroom.php?yyyy=2011&mm=01&nav_id=72340

And this:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=01&dd=28&nav_id=72398

I just did and realized all this talk is pointless. COE says that EULEX must conduct the investigations. If Marty's declarations on EULEX correspond to truth (you never know with Daily Blic), then he is going against the document he himself supported, signed and voted for. the document of a European body.

Claiming that EULEX is in danger because it investigates therefore it should not investigate defeats the whole purpose of EULEX. That is why they are there, to investigate. Aren't they always in danger then? Besides, EULEX has demonstrated that it can deal with people in high up positions. The investigation of the transportation minister for example. Nothing bad happened to EULEX members.

Third option is that this is all a charade. Marty already gave the names of the people he said he spoke with to EULEX but we do not know about it, of course.

dick marty is a clown. he has no evidence eu/us/ks/al/eulex asked him now more than 10 times to provide evidence but he has provided zero evidence because no evidence exist so this resolution is meaningless.
(mijari, 27 January 2011 12:02)

The evidence is there, but theres a reason why he isnt showing it to you, firstly there is physical evidence, previous physical evidence was mysteriously destroyed, then there are the dozens of (predominantly Albanian witnesses),after what happened to the witnesses at the Hardinaj trial, I very much doubt that they'll reveal them in the short term.