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Monday, 24.01.2011.

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Marty says his report "hit raw nerve"

Dick Marty says that his report on Kosovo human organ trafficking caused such a stir "because it is credible, and hit a raw nerve".

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Zoti

pre 13 godina

"It is no pleasure to be accused of being a liar and a Nazi," he said, referring to statements made by Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister and former KLA leader Hashim Thaci.

I see calling him Nazi must have hit a "raw never" with Mr. Marty. Why is that I wonder. You said the allegations against Thaci are true because they hit a raw nerve too.

miri

pre 13 godina

Another way of putting this is that the truth hurts. I am not sure though what any investigation would prove, since politicians in Tirana and Pristina have had ample time to disperse of evidence.
(Peter Sudyka, 25 January 2011 13:54)

So you are doomed then! It's that what you are saying that all this is just a big BS?

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

Another way of putting this is that the truth hurts. I am not sure though what any investigation would prove, since politicians in Tirana and Pristina have had ample time to disperse of evidence.

sj

pre 13 godina

(KOSO, 24 January 2011 23:14)
Perhaps you should buy the latest edition of the UK Guardian newspaper and you might be enlightened for once in your life. Even the Brits are now talking about the fact that NATO and the US knew of the banditry of Albanians in the Balkans at leats a decade before 1999.
Nice combination the US and their human rights-loving Albanians.

(European, 24 January 2011 23:06)
I have no idea what Serbia has to worry about because the so called Stealth technology is more propaganda than reality. In 1999, after several stealth fighters were shot down by the Serbs these US superior aircraft were only used as background during press briefings.
We start wars to stop thieves stealing our property.

(Agim Kelmendi, 24 January 2011 18:51)
Well Abdul, perhaps you would like that military tribunal looking after your moslem brothers that the freedom loving, democratic hugging, justice at arms length from government, the US of A currently exists.

concerned

pre 13 godina

More and more interesting reading by the day. To think NATO has know about this all along. What a mess.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Rocky

pre 13 godina

Marty says his report "hit raw nerve ??
--??
Dick Marty If you could change the chanel, you probably would. If you could put the book back on the shelf and select another, you'd be at the library by now. It would seem, through that you are locked in to a situation, a stete of affairs or a set of commitments. You can unlock yourself, of course, but not without HUGE CONSEQUENCES.

Milan

pre 13 godina

“Wow, Leonidas, this is from 1999, and well known accusations. And in any way says ZERO about 'organ trafficking'
(RLNYA9, 24 January 2011 22:34)”

Date of the article: Monday 24 January 2011 18.34 GMT. Read the article before you comment. “His report, published last month, suggested there was evidence that KLA commanders smuggled captives across the border into Kosovo and harvested the organs of a "handful" of Serbs.” This was maybe not mentioned in the KFOR report, but it is in the article.

“Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. [link] (European, 24 January 2011 23:06)”

Why should Serbia worry? The Chinese compensated some farmers for collecting some high-tech souvenirs on their property. Remember it was a French NATO officer, somebody with a conscious, who communicated NATO flight routes to the Yugoslav army and they shot down the
F-117 fair and square (maybe with some luck, but who cares). I am sure that the Russians also got their share and now have their stealth fighter as well. The balance in air domination will be restored and nobody is going to start WWIII because of this incident. Espionage and stealing are quite common. Personally I think those Serbian farmers are heroes and I hope they and their families enjoyed, enjoy, and will enjoy the hopefully generous compensations that were paid. Finally, I am 100% sure they will do it again if the opportunity would arise and because of that they should have 0% regret.

Dragoslav

pre 13 godina

Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. [link]
(European, 24 January 2011 23:06)

why would serbia worry.It was nato that bombed their embassy.Besides the sad part is that china owns america

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

That he k-trolls are so much insulting my compatriote Mr Marty is hardly surprising, the level at which they are flying is way below the surface, now let see what they have to say to this link.... most probably that Nato is serbo-russian propaganda and have an account in Switzerland...
Be aware Mr Marty work ALWAYS prevailed, so just hang on.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

That he k-trolls are so much insulting my compatriote Mr Marty is hardly surprising, the level at which they are flying is way below the surface, now let see what they have to say to this link.... most probably that Nato is serbo-russian propaganda and have an account in Switzerland...
Be aware Mr Marty work ALWAYS prevailed, so just hang on.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Marty spoke for Swiss newspapers SonntagsZeitung and Le Matin Dimanche on Sunday to say that he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator.


This kid will get punished for his lies and defamatory accusations. Where's the evidence you RussoSerb spy? Oh that's right, there isn't any.

You, sir, are a LOSER!!!



Thanks,

Dragoslav

pre 13 godina

you albanians,you and your propaganda shtick.
The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign.
(LR, 24 January 2011 16:18)

maybe you could enlighten us with some of his other propaganda since he is such a master.

European

pre 13 godina

Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/china-stealth-fighter-us-technology

Top

pre 13 godina

'Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly". '

Just like The Hague never accused Milosevic 'directly' to have murdered a single person in Bosnia or Kosovo. Probably not even Mladic killed anyone 'directly'.

RLNYA9

pre 13 godina

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/jun1999/kla-j29.shtml

Wow, Leonidas, this is from 1999, and well known accusations. And in any way says ZERO about 'organ trafficking'

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci was named in the report as the leader of KLA's Drenica Group, accused of organizing organ trafficking as well as other serious crimes. However, in a recent interview for the Kosovo Albanian media, Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly".

B92

Marty's view on Thaci is concurred by Nato as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Demi

pre 13 godina

''Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly". ''


Wow not that tough anymore`? Read your report one more time and find out who you accused and for what. You will be held accountable for the harm you tryed to give to the image of Kosovo by reporting a false fairytale for Serbian interest. I am just wondering how or how much you got paid for this fiction.


Where is the evidence Mr.Marty ? To start an investagation there need to be evidence.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

As a former state prosecutor he should know better. Perhaps I have watched too much Law&Order but at least there they are always looking for evidence. So far I haven't heard that the judge is the one to provide evidence...
(Revanchist, 24 January 2011 17:40)

It looks like Marty took a page from comunist system how to investigate cases. all eastern block countries during comunist era, they had the investigating judge do what ever they wanted, such as; planting evidence, making evidence desapir, and so on.
In democratic countries the system is very clear, and the prosecutor handling the case works hand in hand with few investigators from the very beggining of the case till th end, and the prosecutor will present the case in court room , where the jury will decide the case. There are speedy trial where three judges preside and they decide the faith of deafendent.
ej Dick Marty, welcome to Russian system of justice. What a joke he is!

Drownanotherday

pre 13 godina

BERN -- Dick Marty says that his report on Kosovo human organ trafficking caused such a stir "because it is credible, and hit a raw nerve".

The European Parliament (EP) Committee on Foreign Affairs "will not hold the announced debate" on the Marty report


"he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator. "

Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly".

Marty stated that he did not accuse Dranica "directly".

Marty stated that he did not accuse organ trafficking "directly".

Dick Marty, the Swiss senator and former prosecutor who compiled the report, wrote that the alleged mistreatment of Serb captives a decade ago was "closely related to the contemporary case of the Medicus clinic."

-----------------

Are any of you Serbs willing to face the tune and be good Christians, in order to stop all this hate and further divide from your neighbors?
Stop supporting toxic bs that you yourself are getting poisoned with holding it in your hands.

All your fantasy bullets that certain ultra politicians (make up) give you are not real!

Justice for the real investigations, but be real first.
Pathetic, a nation of 9 million ultras hanging by every drop of a con artist from Toblerone

ben

pre 13 godina

What an idiot.

If I would accuse you that you have systematically raped your own daughter - I presume your reaction to that would be of immense indignation.

Should I say then: I hit a raw nerve?????

Charlatan this is what you are!

Revanchist

pre 13 godina

"It is no pleasure to be accused of being a liar and a Nazi," he said, referring to statements made by Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister and former KLA leader Hashim Thaci.
Marty also said that he was especially hurt by criticism coming from some of his Swiss colleagues who suggested he "better deal with Switzerland's interests".
***
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen...
----------------------------------------
Marty spoke for Swiss newspapers SonntagsZeitung and Le Matin Dimanche on Sunday to say that he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator.
***
As a former state prosecutor he should know better. Perhaps I have watched too much Law&Order but at least there they are always looking for evidence. So far I haven't heard that the judge is the one to provide evidence...

Jovan

pre 13 godina

well, " LR " , ...if he Mr.Marty is a liar, why are you so upset then?

why are Washington Post and others publishing it then, if he is just a liar?

well, ...well,... perhaps you should think it over again, denial is a weak weapon, my friend.

and instead of using your brains, and critisizing Touchy the snake for his stupidity ( calling european officials Nazi is not quite smart in my eyes ) all you are capable of doing is writing that kind of nonsense!

but in the end, all your socalled "arguments" are weak.

the alleged "illyrian descent", your "friendship" with the US of A, which is not more than a master-and-servant-relationship at best,
the alleged take over of entire Serbia because of birth rate, ...or those stories about "the nineties" and Slobo...

there are no arguments for your cheapish greater albanian project, and ...that´s why it will fail miserably.

it´s only question of time. let´s just see what future brings...

Top

pre 13 godina

Of course he hit a nerve - and that#s why Thaci and his buddies are getting nervous and run amok.

There's no smoke without a fire, as people say. And if the fire is out, you can find the ashes - ever after 10 years :)

Top

pre 13 godina

"The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign."
(LR, 24 January 2011 16:18)

Maybe you should read a bit more carefully before accusing a honorable person like Marty! But well, if your godfather Thaci can do it like that, a simply Kosovo albanian can do the same...

So: "The Swiss senator told reporters that he was surprised at the stir caused by the report, considering that almost all of its elements were already known, and assessed that "the real scandal" was that criminal activities of "certain circles that were brought to power in Priština" were previously ignored."

ALMOST all= Drug smuggling, human trafficking, money laundry, weapon smuggling, illegal prison camps... and so on. All included in FBI and BND files about the KLA and their criminal leaders, and all tolerated and never investigated further or brought to justice. The only NEW thing is the organ harvesting which was not included, but there have been reports about this before, too - not only in Serbia.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Well done Marty. You are beginning to loosen the links between the joint criminal enterprise allowing such heinous crimes to be committed. You certainly hit a raw nerve and the cover-up is about to be revealed.

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

Ofcourse he has hit a nerve because there is no evidence.

If evidence (not false Serbs testimonies) but real evidence this case would have been solved.

Show us the evidence and the person(s) commited these crimes must and will be faced before a court.

Comments like this title is NO evidence.

Tung

LR

pre 13 godina

In his interview, Marty mentioned reports filed by the New York Times and Guardian newspapers on this subject, and referred to FBI reports from 1999. "

The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

well, " LR " , ...if he Mr.Marty is a liar, why are you so upset then?

why are Washington Post and others publishing it then, if he is just a liar?

well, ...well,... perhaps you should think it over again, denial is a weak weapon, my friend.

and instead of using your brains, and critisizing Touchy the snake for his stupidity ( calling european officials Nazi is not quite smart in my eyes ) all you are capable of doing is writing that kind of nonsense!

but in the end, all your socalled "arguments" are weak.

the alleged "illyrian descent", your "friendship" with the US of A, which is not more than a master-and-servant-relationship at best,
the alleged take over of entire Serbia because of birth rate, ...or those stories about "the nineties" and Slobo...

there are no arguments for your cheapish greater albanian project, and ...that´s why it will fail miserably.

it´s only question of time. let´s just see what future brings...

Top

pre 13 godina

Of course he hit a nerve - and that#s why Thaci and his buddies are getting nervous and run amok.

There's no smoke without a fire, as people say. And if the fire is out, you can find the ashes - ever after 10 years :)

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Well done Marty. You are beginning to loosen the links between the joint criminal enterprise allowing such heinous crimes to be committed. You certainly hit a raw nerve and the cover-up is about to be revealed.

Top

pre 13 godina

"The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign."
(LR, 24 January 2011 16:18)

Maybe you should read a bit more carefully before accusing a honorable person like Marty! But well, if your godfather Thaci can do it like that, a simply Kosovo albanian can do the same...

So: "The Swiss senator told reporters that he was surprised at the stir caused by the report, considering that almost all of its elements were already known, and assessed that "the real scandal" was that criminal activities of "certain circles that were brought to power in Priština" were previously ignored."

ALMOST all= Drug smuggling, human trafficking, money laundry, weapon smuggling, illegal prison camps... and so on. All included in FBI and BND files about the KLA and their criminal leaders, and all tolerated and never investigated further or brought to justice. The only NEW thing is the organ harvesting which was not included, but there have been reports about this before, too - not only in Serbia.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci was named in the report as the leader of KLA's Drenica Group, accused of organizing organ trafficking as well as other serious crimes. However, in a recent interview for the Kosovo Albanian media, Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly".

B92

Marty's view on Thaci is concurred by Nato as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

LR

pre 13 godina

In his interview, Marty mentioned reports filed by the New York Times and Guardian newspapers on this subject, and referred to FBI reports from 1999. "

The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign.

Revanchist

pre 13 godina

"It is no pleasure to be accused of being a liar and a Nazi," he said, referring to statements made by Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister and former KLA leader Hashim Thaci.
Marty also said that he was especially hurt by criticism coming from some of his Swiss colleagues who suggested he "better deal with Switzerland's interests".
***
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen...
----------------------------------------
Marty spoke for Swiss newspapers SonntagsZeitung and Le Matin Dimanche on Sunday to say that he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator.
***
As a former state prosecutor he should know better. Perhaps I have watched too much Law&Order but at least there they are always looking for evidence. So far I haven't heard that the judge is the one to provide evidence...

ben

pre 13 godina

What an idiot.

If I would accuse you that you have systematically raped your own daughter - I presume your reaction to that would be of immense indignation.

Should I say then: I hit a raw nerve?????

Charlatan this is what you are!

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

Ofcourse he has hit a nerve because there is no evidence.

If evidence (not false Serbs testimonies) but real evidence this case would have been solved.

Show us the evidence and the person(s) commited these crimes must and will be faced before a court.

Comments like this title is NO evidence.

Tung

Dragoslav

pre 13 godina

you albanians,you and your propaganda shtick.
The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign.
(LR, 24 January 2011 16:18)

maybe you could enlighten us with some of his other propaganda since he is such a master.

Drownanotherday

pre 13 godina

BERN -- Dick Marty says that his report on Kosovo human organ trafficking caused such a stir "because it is credible, and hit a raw nerve".

The European Parliament (EP) Committee on Foreign Affairs "will not hold the announced debate" on the Marty report


"he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator. "

Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly".

Marty stated that he did not accuse Dranica "directly".

Marty stated that he did not accuse organ trafficking "directly".

Dick Marty, the Swiss senator and former prosecutor who compiled the report, wrote that the alleged mistreatment of Serb captives a decade ago was "closely related to the contemporary case of the Medicus clinic."

-----------------

Are any of you Serbs willing to face the tune and be good Christians, in order to stop all this hate and further divide from your neighbors?
Stop supporting toxic bs that you yourself are getting poisoned with holding it in your hands.

All your fantasy bullets that certain ultra politicians (make up) give you are not real!

Justice for the real investigations, but be real first.
Pathetic, a nation of 9 million ultras hanging by every drop of a con artist from Toblerone

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

As a former state prosecutor he should know better. Perhaps I have watched too much Law&Order but at least there they are always looking for evidence. So far I haven't heard that the judge is the one to provide evidence...
(Revanchist, 24 January 2011 17:40)

It looks like Marty took a page from comunist system how to investigate cases. all eastern block countries during comunist era, they had the investigating judge do what ever they wanted, such as; planting evidence, making evidence desapir, and so on.
In democratic countries the system is very clear, and the prosecutor handling the case works hand in hand with few investigators from the very beggining of the case till th end, and the prosecutor will present the case in court room , where the jury will decide the case. There are speedy trial where three judges preside and they decide the faith of deafendent.
ej Dick Marty, welcome to Russian system of justice. What a joke he is!

Demi

pre 13 godina

''Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly". ''


Wow not that tough anymore`? Read your report one more time and find out who you accused and for what. You will be held accountable for the harm you tryed to give to the image of Kosovo by reporting a false fairytale for Serbian interest. I am just wondering how or how much you got paid for this fiction.


Where is the evidence Mr.Marty ? To start an investagation there need to be evidence.

Top

pre 13 godina

'Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly". '

Just like The Hague never accused Milosevic 'directly' to have murdered a single person in Bosnia or Kosovo. Probably not even Mladic killed anyone 'directly'.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

Another way of putting this is that the truth hurts. I am not sure though what any investigation would prove, since politicians in Tirana and Pristina have had ample time to disperse of evidence.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

That he k-trolls are so much insulting my compatriote Mr Marty is hardly surprising, the level at which they are flying is way below the surface, now let see what they have to say to this link.... most probably that Nato is serbo-russian propaganda and have an account in Switzerland...
Be aware Mr Marty work ALWAYS prevailed, so just hang on.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

sj

pre 13 godina

(KOSO, 24 January 2011 23:14)
Perhaps you should buy the latest edition of the UK Guardian newspaper and you might be enlightened for once in your life. Even the Brits are now talking about the fact that NATO and the US knew of the banditry of Albanians in the Balkans at leats a decade before 1999.
Nice combination the US and their human rights-loving Albanians.

(European, 24 January 2011 23:06)
I have no idea what Serbia has to worry about because the so called Stealth technology is more propaganda than reality. In 1999, after several stealth fighters were shot down by the Serbs these US superior aircraft were only used as background during press briefings.
We start wars to stop thieves stealing our property.

(Agim Kelmendi, 24 January 2011 18:51)
Well Abdul, perhaps you would like that military tribunal looking after your moslem brothers that the freedom loving, democratic hugging, justice at arms length from government, the US of A currently exists.

European

pre 13 godina

Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/china-stealth-fighter-us-technology

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Marty spoke for Swiss newspapers SonntagsZeitung and Le Matin Dimanche on Sunday to say that he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator.


This kid will get punished for his lies and defamatory accusations. Where's the evidence you RussoSerb spy? Oh that's right, there isn't any.

You, sir, are a LOSER!!!



Thanks,

Dragoslav

pre 13 godina

Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. [link]
(European, 24 January 2011 23:06)

why would serbia worry.It was nato that bombed their embassy.Besides the sad part is that china owns america

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

That he k-trolls are so much insulting my compatriote Mr Marty is hardly surprising, the level at which they are flying is way below the surface, now let see what they have to say to this link.... most probably that Nato is serbo-russian propaganda and have an account in Switzerland...
Be aware Mr Marty work ALWAYS prevailed, so just hang on.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

concerned

pre 13 godina

More and more interesting reading by the day. To think NATO has know about this all along. What a mess.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

RLNYA9

pre 13 godina

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/jun1999/kla-j29.shtml

Wow, Leonidas, this is from 1999, and well known accusations. And in any way says ZERO about 'organ trafficking'

Milan

pre 13 godina

“Wow, Leonidas, this is from 1999, and well known accusations. And in any way says ZERO about 'organ trafficking'
(RLNYA9, 24 January 2011 22:34)”

Date of the article: Monday 24 January 2011 18.34 GMT. Read the article before you comment. “His report, published last month, suggested there was evidence that KLA commanders smuggled captives across the border into Kosovo and harvested the organs of a "handful" of Serbs.” This was maybe not mentioned in the KFOR report, but it is in the article.

“Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. [link] (European, 24 January 2011 23:06)”

Why should Serbia worry? The Chinese compensated some farmers for collecting some high-tech souvenirs on their property. Remember it was a French NATO officer, somebody with a conscious, who communicated NATO flight routes to the Yugoslav army and they shot down the
F-117 fair and square (maybe with some luck, but who cares). I am sure that the Russians also got their share and now have their stealth fighter as well. The balance in air domination will be restored and nobody is going to start WWIII because of this incident. Espionage and stealing are quite common. Personally I think those Serbian farmers are heroes and I hope they and their families enjoyed, enjoy, and will enjoy the hopefully generous compensations that were paid. Finally, I am 100% sure they will do it again if the opportunity would arise and because of that they should have 0% regret.

Rocky

pre 13 godina

Marty says his report "hit raw nerve ??
--??
Dick Marty If you could change the chanel, you probably would. If you could put the book back on the shelf and select another, you'd be at the library by now. It would seem, through that you are locked in to a situation, a stete of affairs or a set of commitments. You can unlock yourself, of course, but not without HUGE CONSEQUENCES.

miri

pre 13 godina

Another way of putting this is that the truth hurts. I am not sure though what any investigation would prove, since politicians in Tirana and Pristina have had ample time to disperse of evidence.
(Peter Sudyka, 25 January 2011 13:54)

So you are doomed then! It's that what you are saying that all this is just a big BS?

Zoti

pre 13 godina

"It is no pleasure to be accused of being a liar and a Nazi," he said, referring to statements made by Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister and former KLA leader Hashim Thaci.

I see calling him Nazi must have hit a "raw never" with Mr. Marty. Why is that I wonder. You said the allegations against Thaci are true because they hit a raw nerve too.

LR

pre 13 godina

In his interview, Marty mentioned reports filed by the New York Times and Guardian newspapers on this subject, and referred to FBI reports from 1999. "

The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

"It is no pleasure to be accused of being a liar and a Nazi," he said, referring to statements made by Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister and former KLA leader Hashim Thaci.

I see calling him Nazi must have hit a "raw never" with Mr. Marty. Why is that I wonder. You said the allegations against Thaci are true because they hit a raw nerve too.

Revanchist

pre 13 godina

"It is no pleasure to be accused of being a liar and a Nazi," he said, referring to statements made by Kosovo Albanian Prime Minister and former KLA leader Hashim Thaci.
Marty also said that he was especially hurt by criticism coming from some of his Swiss colleagues who suggested he "better deal with Switzerland's interests".
***
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen...
----------------------------------------
Marty spoke for Swiss newspapers SonntagsZeitung and Le Matin Dimanche on Sunday to say that he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator.
***
As a former state prosecutor he should know better. Perhaps I have watched too much Law&Order but at least there they are always looking for evidence. So far I haven't heard that the judge is the one to provide evidence...

FREEDOM

pre 13 godina

Ofcourse he has hit a nerve because there is no evidence.

If evidence (not false Serbs testimonies) but real evidence this case would have been solved.

Show us the evidence and the person(s) commited these crimes must and will be faced before a court.

Comments like this title is NO evidence.

Tung

miri

pre 13 godina

Another way of putting this is that the truth hurts. I am not sure though what any investigation would prove, since politicians in Tirana and Pristina have had ample time to disperse of evidence.
(Peter Sudyka, 25 January 2011 13:54)

So you are doomed then! It's that what you are saying that all this is just a big BS?

Demi

pre 13 godina

''Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly". ''


Wow not that tough anymore`? Read your report one more time and find out who you accused and for what. You will be held accountable for the harm you tryed to give to the image of Kosovo by reporting a false fairytale for Serbian interest. I am just wondering how or how much you got paid for this fiction.


Where is the evidence Mr.Marty ? To start an investagation there need to be evidence.

Drownanotherday

pre 13 godina

BERN -- Dick Marty says that his report on Kosovo human organ trafficking caused such a stir "because it is credible, and hit a raw nerve".

The European Parliament (EP) Committee on Foreign Affairs "will not hold the announced debate" on the Marty report


"he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator. "

Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly".

Marty stated that he did not accuse Dranica "directly".

Marty stated that he did not accuse organ trafficking "directly".

Dick Marty, the Swiss senator and former prosecutor who compiled the report, wrote that the alleged mistreatment of Serb captives a decade ago was "closely related to the contemporary case of the Medicus clinic."

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Are any of you Serbs willing to face the tune and be good Christians, in order to stop all this hate and further divide from your neighbors?
Stop supporting toxic bs that you yourself are getting poisoned with holding it in your hands.

All your fantasy bullets that certain ultra politicians (make up) give you are not real!

Justice for the real investigations, but be real first.
Pathetic, a nation of 9 million ultras hanging by every drop of a con artist from Toblerone

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Marty spoke for Swiss newspapers SonntagsZeitung and Le Matin Dimanche on Sunday to say that he would not provide evidence for the accusations found in the report, as he was not an investigative judge, but merely an investigator.


This kid will get punished for his lies and defamatory accusations. Where's the evidence you RussoSerb spy? Oh that's right, there isn't any.

You, sir, are a LOSER!!!



Thanks,

Top

pre 13 godina

Of course he hit a nerve - and that#s why Thaci and his buddies are getting nervous and run amok.

There's no smoke without a fire, as people say. And if the fire is out, you can find the ashes - ever after 10 years :)

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

As a former state prosecutor he should know better. Perhaps I have watched too much Law&Order but at least there they are always looking for evidence. So far I haven't heard that the judge is the one to provide evidence...
(Revanchist, 24 January 2011 17:40)

It looks like Marty took a page from comunist system how to investigate cases. all eastern block countries during comunist era, they had the investigating judge do what ever they wanted, such as; planting evidence, making evidence desapir, and so on.
In democratic countries the system is very clear, and the prosecutor handling the case works hand in hand with few investigators from the very beggining of the case till th end, and the prosecutor will present the case in court room , where the jury will decide the case. There are speedy trial where three judges preside and they decide the faith of deafendent.
ej Dick Marty, welcome to Russian system of justice. What a joke he is!

ben

pre 13 godina

What an idiot.

If I would accuse you that you have systematically raped your own daughter - I presume your reaction to that would be of immense indignation.

Should I say then: I hit a raw nerve?????

Charlatan this is what you are!

European

pre 13 godina

Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/china-stealth-fighter-us-technology

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Well done Marty. You are beginning to loosen the links between the joint criminal enterprise allowing such heinous crimes to be committed. You certainly hit a raw nerve and the cover-up is about to be revealed.

Top

pre 13 godina

"The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign."
(LR, 24 January 2011 16:18)

Maybe you should read a bit more carefully before accusing a honorable person like Marty! But well, if your godfather Thaci can do it like that, a simply Kosovo albanian can do the same...

So: "The Swiss senator told reporters that he was surprised at the stir caused by the report, considering that almost all of its elements were already known, and assessed that "the real scandal" was that criminal activities of "certain circles that were brought to power in Priština" were previously ignored."

ALMOST all= Drug smuggling, human trafficking, money laundry, weapon smuggling, illegal prison camps... and so on. All included in FBI and BND files about the KLA and their criminal leaders, and all tolerated and never investigated further or brought to justice. The only NEW thing is the organ harvesting which was not included, but there have been reports about this before, too - not only in Serbia.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

well, " LR " , ...if he Mr.Marty is a liar, why are you so upset then?

why are Washington Post and others publishing it then, if he is just a liar?

well, ...well,... perhaps you should think it over again, denial is a weak weapon, my friend.

and instead of using your brains, and critisizing Touchy the snake for his stupidity ( calling european officials Nazi is not quite smart in my eyes ) all you are capable of doing is writing that kind of nonsense!

but in the end, all your socalled "arguments" are weak.

the alleged "illyrian descent", your "friendship" with the US of A, which is not more than a master-and-servant-relationship at best,
the alleged take over of entire Serbia because of birth rate, ...or those stories about "the nineties" and Slobo...

there are no arguments for your cheapish greater albanian project, and ...that´s why it will fail miserably.

it´s only question of time. let´s just see what future brings...

RLNYA9

pre 13 godina

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/jun1999/kla-j29.shtml

Wow, Leonidas, this is from 1999, and well known accusations. And in any way says ZERO about 'organ trafficking'

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci was named in the report as the leader of KLA's Drenica Group, accused of organizing organ trafficking as well as other serious crimes. However, in a recent interview for the Kosovo Albanian media, Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly".

B92

Marty's view on Thaci is concurred by Nato as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Rocky

pre 13 godina

Marty says his report "hit raw nerve ??
--??
Dick Marty If you could change the chanel, you probably would. If you could put the book back on the shelf and select another, you'd be at the library by now. It would seem, through that you are locked in to a situation, a stete of affairs or a set of commitments. You can unlock yourself, of course, but not without HUGE CONSEQUENCES.

Dragoslav

pre 13 godina

you albanians,you and your propaganda shtick.
The Dick Marty is lying. He is a propaganda master that's mixing reports about "crimes" with the rumors of organ trading. Neither FBI, nor the Guardian nor the NYtimes wrote about organ trading back then, just Seselj in his 1999 campaign.
(LR, 24 January 2011 16:18)

maybe you could enlighten us with some of his other propaganda since he is such a master.

Top

pre 13 godina

'Marty stated that he did not accuse Thaci "directly". '

Just like The Hague never accused Milosevic 'directly' to have murdered a single person in Bosnia or Kosovo. Probably not even Mladic killed anyone 'directly'.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

That he k-trolls are so much insulting my compatriote Mr Marty is hardly surprising, the level at which they are flying is way below the surface, now let see what they have to say to this link.... most probably that Nato is serbo-russian propaganda and have an account in Switzerland...
Be aware Mr Marty work ALWAYS prevailed, so just hang on.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

That he k-trolls are so much insulting my compatriote Mr Marty is hardly surprising, the level at which they are flying is way below the surface, now let see what they have to say to this link.... most probably that Nato is serbo-russian propaganda and have an account in Switzerland...
Be aware Mr Marty work ALWAYS prevailed, so just hang on.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Dragoslav

pre 13 godina

Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. [link]
(European, 24 January 2011 23:06)

why would serbia worry.It was nato that bombed their embassy.Besides the sad part is that china owns america

sj

pre 13 godina

(KOSO, 24 January 2011 23:14)
Perhaps you should buy the latest edition of the UK Guardian newspaper and you might be enlightened for once in your life. Even the Brits are now talking about the fact that NATO and the US knew of the banditry of Albanians in the Balkans at leats a decade before 1999.
Nice combination the US and their human rights-loving Albanians.

(European, 24 January 2011 23:06)
I have no idea what Serbia has to worry about because the so called Stealth technology is more propaganda than reality. In 1999, after several stealth fighters were shot down by the Serbs these US superior aircraft were only used as background during press briefings.
We start wars to stop thieves stealing our property.

(Agim Kelmendi, 24 January 2011 18:51)
Well Abdul, perhaps you would like that military tribunal looking after your moslem brothers that the freedom loving, democratic hugging, justice at arms length from government, the US of A currently exists.

Peter Sudyka

pre 13 godina

Another way of putting this is that the truth hurts. I am not sure though what any investigation would prove, since politicians in Tirana and Pristina have had ample time to disperse of evidence.

Milan

pre 13 godina

“Wow, Leonidas, this is from 1999, and well known accusations. And in any way says ZERO about 'organ trafficking'
(RLNYA9, 24 January 2011 22:34)”

Date of the article: Monday 24 January 2011 18.34 GMT. Read the article before you comment. “His report, published last month, suggested there was evidence that KLA commanders smuggled captives across the border into Kosovo and harvested the organs of a "handful" of Serbs.” This was maybe not mentioned in the KFOR report, but it is in the article.

“Serbia should start to worry about how parts of the F-117 Nighthawk were sold to China and not about Mr. Marty accusing Mr. Thaci. Why is it that Serbs always start world wars?. [link] (European, 24 January 2011 23:06)”

Why should Serbia worry? The Chinese compensated some farmers for collecting some high-tech souvenirs on their property. Remember it was a French NATO officer, somebody with a conscious, who communicated NATO flight routes to the Yugoslav army and they shot down the
F-117 fair and square (maybe with some luck, but who cares). I am sure that the Russians also got their share and now have their stealth fighter as well. The balance in air domination will be restored and nobody is going to start WWIII because of this incident. Espionage and stealing are quite common. Personally I think those Serbian farmers are heroes and I hope they and their families enjoyed, enjoy, and will enjoy the hopefully generous compensations that were paid. Finally, I am 100% sure they will do it again if the opportunity would arise and because of that they should have 0% regret.

concerned

pre 13 godina

More and more interesting reading by the day. To think NATO has know about this all along. What a mess.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime