Putin orders 5% cut in Russian govt. staff

RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall
(highduke, 14 January 2011, 16:43)

What do you mean "you" are going to fall? "We" surely - where is it you live? If the West falls, you'll have to come back to Serbia and work for EUR 200 like you said you didn't want to, do your military service like you said you didn't want to, or are you going to look for a job in newly propserous China? I suspect you'll struggle to earn even EUR 200 there.

Face it, the West collapsing would be an even bigger disaster for you than it would be for the rest of us.

The West should take note. 20 years ago it was RUS that collapsed due to an over-bloated bureaucracy but today the tables have turned, RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall

Mass layoffs is bad. These guys are following the same road to ruin that the US took.
(Lazar, 14 January 2011 17:53)

Wrong!This is good,it will lead to the ousting of needless burecrats that do nothing than recketeer businesess and do harm to Russian taypayers.
It will lead to lower taxes for ordinary Russians that actually produce stuff and do productive work.
Government "workers" are parasites and must be cut minimum 80%,the result:
no more bribes,burocracy and better environment for investments.

The West should take note. 20 years ago it was RUS that collapsed due to an over-bloated bureaucracy but today the tables have turned, RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall
(highduke, 14 January 2011 16:43)

Yeah, Putin cuts costs by 5 percent and our turbo Serbian nationalist dream of a new world order. Maybe Putin should cut it by 10% and you own the universe...lol

Mass layoffs is bad. These guys are following the same road to ruin that the US took.

I'm counting on its collapse coinciding with the consolidation of Putinism in Serbia and increase in domestic investment with S. Stream tax money to make Serbia as liveable as RUS is today but I won't take work from an ethnic Russian by moving to RUS either. It's hard to make ends meet in Serbia, even patriotic people want to leave but that wont last. Even Turkey is experiencing a recent reflux of German emigrants

"The West should take note. 20 years ago it was RUS that collapsed due to an over-bloated bureaucracy but today the tables have turned, RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall
(highduke, 14 January 2011 16:43)"

That's an interesting version of the reason for the default in 1998. What about the Asian financial crisis and the crashing of oil prices? Oil was about all that was supporting Russia when it went down to something like $10 a barrel, and the economy collapsed.

I'm counting on its collapse coinciding with the consolidation of Putinism in Serbia and increase in domestic investment with S. Stream tax money to make Serbia as liveable as RUS is today . It's hard to make ends meet in Serbia, (highduke, 14 January 2011 19:09)

Hahaha, don't hold your breath. And by what measure do you regard Russia as "liveable". The lives of most ordinary workers and pensioners are miserable, far worse than under SSSR. Putin still has the means to bring down the mafia oligarchs but unless he does he will have no legacy.

"I'm counting on its collapse coinciding with the consolidation of Putinism in Serbia and increase in domestic investment with S. Stream tax money to make Serbia as liveable as RUS is today "


interesting life-plan you have there, highduke.

Wait for the rise of "putinism" in Serbia (whatever the hell that means) and with it the inevitable riches that will then pave the streets of Serbia. Then you'll arrive here, cap in hand and take what's rightfully yours.

I find it amusing how some people don't see that there's no difference between "EU will save the day" and "Russia will save the day". They're both different ways of expressing "Some great benevolent power will decend, deus ex machina, onto Serbia and everything will be happy ever after".

What an adolescent way of viewing the world, no matter which of those two ways it's expressed.

(Milos Obilic, 14 January 2011 17:05)

This is another fine example of “the world will end if there is no west”. Talk about brainwashing.
I suggest that you tell the thousands of Americans who now work in China to leave and come back to the land of milk and honey. Go and see the place and you’ll find that you will not fall of the end of the world if you leave San Francisco Bay.

(Amer, 15 January 2011 02:52)

Russia collapsed in 1990s not because of the price of oil, but due to its debt from the past plus more debt from the war in Afghanistan.
Recently several state governments in Australia went through a “restructure” where job losses were the order of the day. However, I did not read anywhere of “massive job losses” taking place. Perhaps they do it in a democratic way whereas Putin is a dictator at heart. You will find it will be done by natural attrition through retirements and not filling of positions as they fall vacant.
I’d take a closer look at the US government. In fact it’s now the biggest employer in the US today, but a time of balancing the books will have to come there as well and soon. The only thing that’s holding up the US dollar is the buying by western countries otherwise it would be like the German mark after World War 2.

Tell that to the 100 000 techno-savvy Western expats, 2 000 000 legal immigrants and 2 000 000 illegal immigrants in Russia today

Tell that to the 100 000 techno-savvy Western expats, 2 000 000 legal immigrants and 2 000 000 illegal immigrants in Russia today

CG, that is one way to look at it. It's the Reagan model. Lets clamp down on unions, all government spending, give everything over to the private sector, reduce government so that nothing is left... it leads to social problems, to higher unemployment rates, to less employment, to more income inequality, and such associated debt problems. So I oppose this neoliberal economic model.

The West should take note. 20 years ago it was RUS that collapsed due to an over-bloated bureaucracy but today the tables have turned, RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall

Mass layoffs is bad. These guys are following the same road to ruin that the US took.

RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall
(highduke, 14 January 2011, 16:43)

What do you mean "you" are going to fall? "We" surely - where is it you live? If the West falls, you'll have to come back to Serbia and work for EUR 200 like you said you didn't want to, do your military service like you said you didn't want to, or are you going to look for a job in newly propserous China? I suspect you'll struggle to earn even EUR 200 there.

Face it, the West collapsing would be an even bigger disaster for you than it would be for the rest of us.

I'm counting on its collapse coinciding with the consolidation of Putinism in Serbia and increase in domestic investment with S. Stream tax money to make Serbia as liveable as RUS is today but I won't take work from an ethnic Russian by moving to RUS either. It's hard to make ends meet in Serbia, even patriotic people want to leave but that wont last. Even Turkey is experiencing a recent reflux of German emigrants

The West should take note. 20 years ago it was RUS that collapsed due to an over-bloated bureaucracy but today the tables have turned, RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall
(highduke, 14 January 2011 16:43)

Yeah, Putin cuts costs by 5 percent and our turbo Serbian nationalist dream of a new world order. Maybe Putin should cut it by 10% and you own the universe...lol

(Milos Obilic, 14 January 2011 17:05)

This is another fine example of “the world will end if there is no west”. Talk about brainwashing.
I suggest that you tell the thousands of Americans who now work in China to leave and come back to the land of milk and honey. Go and see the place and you’ll find that you will not fall of the end of the world if you leave San Francisco Bay.

(Amer, 15 January 2011 02:52)

Russia collapsed in 1990s not because of the price of oil, but due to its debt from the past plus more debt from the war in Afghanistan.
Recently several state governments in Australia went through a “restructure” where job losses were the order of the day. However, I did not read anywhere of “massive job losses” taking place. Perhaps they do it in a democratic way whereas Putin is a dictator at heart. You will find it will be done by natural attrition through retirements and not filling of positions as they fall vacant.
I’d take a closer look at the US government. In fact it’s now the biggest employer in the US today, but a time of balancing the books will have to come there as well and soon. The only thing that’s holding up the US dollar is the buying by western countries otherwise it would be like the German mark after World War 2.

Mass layoffs is bad. These guys are following the same road to ruin that the US took.
(Lazar, 14 January 2011 17:53)

Wrong!This is good,it will lead to the ousting of needless burecrats that do nothing than recketeer businesess and do harm to Russian taypayers.
It will lead to lower taxes for ordinary Russians that actually produce stuff and do productive work.
Government "workers" are parasites and must be cut minimum 80%,the result:
no more bribes,burocracy and better environment for investments.

"The West should take note. 20 years ago it was RUS that collapsed due to an over-bloated bureaucracy but today the tables have turned, RUS has triumphed and you are about to fall
(highduke, 14 January 2011 16:43)"

That's an interesting version of the reason for the default in 1998. What about the Asian financial crisis and the crashing of oil prices? Oil was about all that was supporting Russia when it went down to something like $10 a barrel, and the economy collapsed.

I'm counting on its collapse coinciding with the consolidation of Putinism in Serbia and increase in domestic investment with S. Stream tax money to make Serbia as liveable as RUS is today . It's hard to make ends meet in Serbia, (highduke, 14 January 2011 19:09)

Hahaha, don't hold your breath. And by what measure do you regard Russia as "liveable". The lives of most ordinary workers and pensioners are miserable, far worse than under SSSR. Putin still has the means to bring down the mafia oligarchs but unless he does he will have no legacy.

Tell that to the 100 000 techno-savvy Western expats, 2 000 000 legal immigrants and 2 000 000 illegal immigrants in Russia today

Tell that to the 100 000 techno-savvy Western expats, 2 000 000 legal immigrants and 2 000 000 illegal immigrants in Russia today

"I'm counting on its collapse coinciding with the consolidation of Putinism in Serbia and increase in domestic investment with S. Stream tax money to make Serbia as liveable as RUS is today "


interesting life-plan you have there, highduke.

Wait for the rise of "putinism" in Serbia (whatever the hell that means) and with it the inevitable riches that will then pave the streets of Serbia. Then you'll arrive here, cap in hand and take what's rightfully yours.

I find it amusing how some people don't see that there's no difference between "EU will save the day" and "Russia will save the day". They're both different ways of expressing "Some great benevolent power will decend, deus ex machina, onto Serbia and everything will be happy ever after".

What an adolescent way of viewing the world, no matter which of those two ways it's expressed.

CG, that is one way to look at it. It's the Reagan model. Lets clamp down on unions, all government spending, give everything over to the private sector, reduce government so that nothing is left... it leads to social problems, to higher unemployment rates, to less employment, to more income inequality, and such associated debt problems. So I oppose this neoliberal economic model.