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Thursday, 13.01.2011.

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Kosovo police seize new license plates

Members of the Kosovo police (KPS) in northern Kosovo on Thursday seized a pair of new license plates issued by authorities in Belgrade.

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justhetruth

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

----

@Hruz,

The argument:

"Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary" style is not very high class. You can do it better. Re-read what I wrote, in particular the word usage (not 'law' but 'guidelines').

Can you please provide with precise information about vehicle registration in Denmark, Sweden. Norway? As you said, "half the info is worse than ignorance". Precisely - now the ball is in your court, please provide me with the links supporting what you said.

BTW: I did NOT miss your remark - I judged it as pretty offensive and rather switched the topic instead of going into personal attack. I found the topic of unreasonable taxation more "chat-friendly" but if you want me comment on what you said precisely - I can do that.

---

Mmm, how's the public transportation?
(Amer, 14 January 2011 01:11)

The only serious comment (sigh).

1) The public transportation in BP (BKV) became the victim of corruption. The fare structure has no relation to the income. The rolling stock consists largely of obsolete vehicles, busses over 30 year old. Increasingly, many locals go rather by car. Despite these annoyances all this works and if I would live alone in a city house somewhere in BP that would be probably the solution. At the moment you are in suburbia things do not work to the advantage of BKV.

2) More importantly. People who used to a certain life style won't want to give it up. They are used to certain things and want to continue to live more-less the life they did live. Hungary does absolutely nothing to attract own people who live abroad. Believe or not - we are regularly asked:

"did you lose your mind by moving into this mess?"

I have to explain them - it's not THAT bad as they think and there are certain advantages. At the moment I explain that I am working "on-line" and not in the country - than (and only than) they say: "OK, now I see the point".

I do not see the point some people want to defend what is impossible to defend, except just to make Serbs feel bad. If that's their point - that is sick.

----

By the way: the entire picture what is presented to the outside world on this B92 forum is closely as sick as some "illyrianshqiptar" Youtube channel.
(Je¿ iliryjski, 14 January 2011 12:59) As a illyrian or shqiptar with this move made by Serbia issuing plates in other country his own plates you can't get it better laugh as this story by the way better told as Mr Been.. thanks /regards b92

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

Ataman
Your kidneys will remain intact. Since you are not a serb you are not celestial. And since you are not celestial nobody needs your kidneys, simple as that.
I only wonder how a smart person like you failed to notice this simple fact.

pss

pre 13 godina

Pss, your adviss must be more precise... reading the English or French version of 1244 will help understand it better. That is because the Serbian version contains many things (mentioned by many posters in this site) in addition to those contained in the original English/French version...
(icj1, 14 January 2011 05:10)
I have said many times I need to get a copy of the Serbian version of 1244 because posters here always quote portions that are not available in the versions posted on the UN website.

Je¿ iliryjski

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

----

@Hruz,

The argument:

"Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary" style is not very high class. You can do it better. Re-read what I wrote, in particular the word usage (not 'law' but 'guidelines').

Can you please provide with precise information about vehicle registration in Denmark, Sweden. Norway? As you said, "half the info is worse than ignorance". Precisely - now the ball is in your court, please provide me with the links supporting what you said.

BTW: I did NOT miss your remark - I judged it as pretty offensive and rather switched the topic instead of going into personal attack. I found the topic of unreasonable taxation more "chat-friendly" but if you want me comment on what you said precisely - I can do that.

---

Mmm, how's the public transportation?
(Amer, 14 January 2011 01:11)

The only serious comment (sigh).

1) The public transportation in BP (BKV) became the victim of corruption. The fare structure has no relation to the income. The rolling stock consists largely of obsolete vehicles, busses over 30 year old. Increasingly, many locals go rather by car. Despite these annoyances all this works and if I would live alone in a city house somewhere in BP that would be probably the solution. At the moment you are in suburbia things do not work to the advantage of BKV.

2) More importantly. People who used to a certain life style won't want to give it up. They are used to certain things and want to continue to live more-less the life they did live. Hungary does absolutely nothing to attract own people who live abroad. Believe or not - we are regularly asked:

"did you lose your mind by moving into this mess?"

I have to explain them - it's not THAT bad as they think and there are certain advantages. At the moment I explain that I am working "on-line" and not in the country - than (and only than) they say: "OK, now I see the point".

I do not see the point some people want to defend what is impossible to defend, except just to make Serbs feel bad. If that's their point - that is sick.

----

By the way: the entire picture what is presented to the outside world on this B92 forum is closely as sick as some "illyrianshqiptar" Youtube channel.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

How about Belgrade begin issuing plates for Knin (KR) and Republika Srpska (RS)? The comments from the Croats and Albanians here are priceless. of course they can do such things but Belgrade must suck it up. Double standards.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

How one can get these plates, by the way?
(Ataman, 13 January 2011 19:43)

Ask Oli or Bogi. By the way do not attempt to enter Kosovo with these funny plates. American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''hat's at least a 70EUR fine by the way, quite pricey
(70EURO, 13 January 2011 19:29)

The replacement is always cheap by the way - the initial registration or re-registration is the headache.

Just for fun calculated how much my plates would cost - that's

- 3694376 HUF + 2872984 HUF + 884567 HUF = 7451927 HUF or 27145.20 Euro alias 36229.78 USD

And these cars aren't new anymore.

I see some difference between 3 x 70 = 210 Euro or 27145.20 Euro
(27145 Euro, 13 January 2011 23:59) ''

If this is all about the money, Albania has lowest taxes on cars, that's why here every one has a either a german car or a rover ... we can issue plates JA for Janina, TE for tetovo, OR for Oher, UL for Ulqin and so on...with the eagle stamped on them, maybe later on we can extend to NI for Nisch, TG for Tregu i Ri ...

Hruz

pre 13 godina

Ataman

Again, you prove the old wisdom, half the knowledge is more dangerous than complete ignorance.

Let's see your comment:

1) You missed the point, my remark was not administrative, relating to vehicle registration, but I drew a comparison between Hungary's loss of territory and Serbia's, with the exception that Hungary is not fighting childishly, with vexation of the population, like the stamp game at the borders, parallel structures or issuing illegal plates.

2) Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary.

3) Taxation of vehicles is way higher in other countries, i.e Nordic countries.

4) It is absolutely not against EU law, it is not discriminative, applicable to all vehicles regardless of origin and the owner's citizenship.

Again, I stress, half the info is worse than ignorance. EU criticised only how the law was introduced, and in 2006 Hungary changed it to harmonize with EU principles, with the introduction of the depreciation multiplier of the vehicle.

Anyway, you missed the point of my remark fully.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

How one can get these plates, by the way?
(Ataman, 13 January 2011 19:43)

You as a Russian will get these plates free of charge, since Bogi and Oli are issueing them.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Maybe reading 1244 will help you understand it better.
(pss, 13 January 2011 22:48)

Pss, your adviss must be more precise... reading the English or French version of 1244 will help understand it better. That is because the Serbian version contains many things (mentioned by many posters in this site) in addition to those contained in the original English/French version...

icj9

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244"
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

and also Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with 1244.



and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

No because Belgrade is not in charge in Kosovo, UNMIK is in charge according to Serbia. So, according to Serbia, only UNMIK can decide license plates in Kosovo.



If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

Sure, Serbian license plate can come in Kosovo when 1244 is terminated by the UNSC, which I don't think will happen any time soon.

27145 Euro

pre 13 godina

That's at least a 70EUR fine by the way, quite pricey
(70EURO, 13 January 2011 19:29)

The replacement is always cheap by the way - the initial registration or re-registration is the headache.

Just for fun calculated how much my plates would cost - that's

- 3694376 HUF + 2872984 HUF + 884567 HUF = 7451927 HUF or 27145.20 Euro alias 36229.78 USD

And these cars aren't new anymore.

I see some difference between 3 x 70 = 210 Euro or 27145.20 Euro

KOSO

pre 13 godina

I await word from the phantom ministers in belgrade. This is what happens when you act immaturely and become PERSONA-NON-GRATA...the only thing Oli and Bog could do is come to B92 and give speeches...maybe start an IRC forum....

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, - Stevie

No, I would argue otherwise. If you think differently can you explain to me why Serbia's plates aren't valid? Why Serbian politician's need permission from Govt in Prishtina...why Kosovo is represented in IMF, WB, etc?

DEX

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

Yes you tried that in WW2 and how did it end? Kosovo Is Serbia, you get it?

Je¿ amerikañski

pre 13 godina

I certainly hope this will help improve the national mood - Hungarians seem to have been in a funk ever since Trianon.
(Amer, 13 January 2011 21:51)

Amer - feel free pay for my Hungarian plates. As long as you don't - I am going to keep U.S. and looking for all kind of others.

I will tell you quickly how much you would pay for yours - if you give me the first year of the registration and the the cm3 of the engine. The calculator is on-line here:

http://www.euvonal.hu/regado.php

At first you will get an infarct, if not - than the next question will be "how can a government do such insanity". Yes, they do. Even if you would come temporarily - you would need to pay. No newcomer does pay, EVERYONE who immigrates to Hungary becomes an illegal instantly, even if he has all visa... because of cars!

What Hungarians do? They register a company in Slovakia and buy cars in Slovakia. Or in the States. I never even have my Hungarian passport with me, if anything is (and the police does stop cars at random!) - I produce them American passport and they shut up.

Stevie

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244" and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo, If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.

pss

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244" and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo, If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)
You are technically wrong, whether you agree with Kosovo independence or perceive it as a UN protectorate, 1244 removes the right of Serbia to do anything in Kosovo.
Maybe reading 1244 will help you understand it better.

Je¿ niewêgierski

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

Apologies - but this was quite a comment, Hruz.

Why do you think I am asking about Serbian and Kosovo plates - do you see my comment just below yours? Maybe because I changed not just my beliefs, but also sexual orientation and fell in love with Thaçi, right?

You know precisely what the "Regadó" = "registration tax" is and how the newcomers to Hungary are "taxated" - essentially against the EU guidelines.

It's much easier to get a green card with KS or SRB plates than with the U.S., that's why. And because these cars aren't as obvious on the road, than American ones.

Vojvodina Hungarians or Romanian Hungarians will ROFL at your idea. This "registration tax" robbery was very new for me as I moved and one of the source of my deepest dissatisfaction with the country. The government wants Hungarians to come in? Than they should think with their head, not with their arse.

picu

pre 13 godina

Why police didn't listen to Ivanovic. Kosovo police should not seize new license plates.

Ivanovic soon will issue a new statement condemning this event and fire police that took these plates.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09) "

Exactly. Hungary may end up as the only country in Central Europe with an increase in population in the next census. Too bad they waited so long to get started on this program - so it may not be until the 2021 census that the results become visible. I certainly hope this will help improve the national mood - Hungarians seem to have been in a funk ever since Trianon.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

KPS means or it ment ;"Kosova Police Services", it is no longer the case, it is just simple; "Kosova Police".
Anyway, good job KP. Remove those scum plates from the old Yugo, since it no longer exists.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

KPS means or it ment ;"Kosova Police Services", it is no longer the case, it is just simple; "Kosova Police".
Anyway, good job KP. Remove those scum plates from the old Yugo, since it no longer exists.

Stevie

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244" and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo, If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.

picu

pre 13 godina

Why police didn't listen to Ivanovic. Kosovo police should not seize new license plates.

Ivanovic soon will issue a new statement condemning this event and fire police that took these plates.

pss

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244" and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo, If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)
You are technically wrong, whether you agree with Kosovo independence or perceive it as a UN protectorate, 1244 removes the right of Serbia to do anything in Kosovo.
Maybe reading 1244 will help you understand it better.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09) "

Exactly. Hungary may end up as the only country in Central Europe with an increase in population in the next census. Too bad they waited so long to get started on this program - so it may not be until the 2021 census that the results become visible. I certainly hope this will help improve the national mood - Hungarians seem to have been in a funk ever since Trianon.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

How one can get these plates, by the way?
(Ataman, 13 January 2011 19:43)

Ask Oli or Bogi. By the way do not attempt to enter Kosovo with these funny plates. American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

I await word from the phantom ministers in belgrade. This is what happens when you act immaturely and become PERSONA-NON-GRATA...the only thing Oli and Bog could do is come to B92 and give speeches...maybe start an IRC forum....

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, - Stevie

No, I would argue otherwise. If you think differently can you explain to me why Serbia's plates aren't valid? Why Serbian politician's need permission from Govt in Prishtina...why Kosovo is represented in IMF, WB, etc?

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

How one can get these plates, by the way?
(Ataman, 13 January 2011 19:43)

You as a Russian will get these plates free of charge, since Bogi and Oli are issueing them.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''hat's at least a 70EUR fine by the way, quite pricey
(70EURO, 13 January 2011 19:29)

The replacement is always cheap by the way - the initial registration or re-registration is the headache.

Just for fun calculated how much my plates would cost - that's

- 3694376 HUF + 2872984 HUF + 884567 HUF = 7451927 HUF or 27145.20 Euro alias 36229.78 USD

And these cars aren't new anymore.

I see some difference between 3 x 70 = 210 Euro or 27145.20 Euro
(27145 Euro, 13 January 2011 23:59) ''

If this is all about the money, Albania has lowest taxes on cars, that's why here every one has a either a german car or a rover ... we can issue plates JA for Janina, TE for tetovo, OR for Oher, UL for Ulqin and so on...with the eagle stamped on them, maybe later on we can extend to NI for Nisch, TG for Tregu i Ri ...

pss

pre 13 godina

Pss, your adviss must be more precise... reading the English or French version of 1244 will help understand it better. That is because the Serbian version contains many things (mentioned by many posters in this site) in addition to those contained in the original English/French version...
(icj1, 14 January 2011 05:10)
I have said many times I need to get a copy of the Serbian version of 1244 because posters here always quote portions that are not available in the versions posted on the UN website.

icj9

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244"
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

and also Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with 1244.



and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

No because Belgrade is not in charge in Kosovo, UNMIK is in charge according to Serbia. So, according to Serbia, only UNMIK can decide license plates in Kosovo.



If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

Sure, Serbian license plate can come in Kosovo when 1244 is terminated by the UNSC, which I don't think will happen any time soon.

Hruz

pre 13 godina

Ataman

Again, you prove the old wisdom, half the knowledge is more dangerous than complete ignorance.

Let's see your comment:

1) You missed the point, my remark was not administrative, relating to vehicle registration, but I drew a comparison between Hungary's loss of territory and Serbia's, with the exception that Hungary is not fighting childishly, with vexation of the population, like the stamp game at the borders, parallel structures or issuing illegal plates.

2) Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary.

3) Taxation of vehicles is way higher in other countries, i.e Nordic countries.

4) It is absolutely not against EU law, it is not discriminative, applicable to all vehicles regardless of origin and the owner's citizenship.

Again, I stress, half the info is worse than ignorance. EU criticised only how the law was introduced, and in 2006 Hungary changed it to harmonize with EU principles, with the introduction of the depreciation multiplier of the vehicle.

Anyway, you missed the point of my remark fully.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Maybe reading 1244 will help you understand it better.
(pss, 13 January 2011 22:48)

Pss, your adviss must be more precise... reading the English or French version of 1244 will help understand it better. That is because the Serbian version contains many things (mentioned by many posters in this site) in addition to those contained in the original English/French version...

Je¿ amerikañski

pre 13 godina

I certainly hope this will help improve the national mood - Hungarians seem to have been in a funk ever since Trianon.
(Amer, 13 January 2011 21:51)

Amer - feel free pay for my Hungarian plates. As long as you don't - I am going to keep U.S. and looking for all kind of others.

I will tell you quickly how much you would pay for yours - if you give me the first year of the registration and the the cm3 of the engine. The calculator is on-line here:

http://www.euvonal.hu/regado.php

At first you will get an infarct, if not - than the next question will be "how can a government do such insanity". Yes, they do. Even if you would come temporarily - you would need to pay. No newcomer does pay, EVERYONE who immigrates to Hungary becomes an illegal instantly, even if he has all visa... because of cars!

What Hungarians do? They register a company in Slovakia and buy cars in Slovakia. Or in the States. I never even have my Hungarian passport with me, if anything is (and the police does stop cars at random!) - I produce them American passport and they shut up.

Je¿ niewêgierski

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

Apologies - but this was quite a comment, Hruz.

Why do you think I am asking about Serbian and Kosovo plates - do you see my comment just below yours? Maybe because I changed not just my beliefs, but also sexual orientation and fell in love with Thaçi, right?

You know precisely what the "Regadó" = "registration tax" is and how the newcomers to Hungary are "taxated" - essentially against the EU guidelines.

It's much easier to get a green card with KS or SRB plates than with the U.S., that's why. And because these cars aren't as obvious on the road, than American ones.

Vojvodina Hungarians or Romanian Hungarians will ROFL at your idea. This "registration tax" robbery was very new for me as I moved and one of the source of my deepest dissatisfaction with the country. The government wants Hungarians to come in? Than they should think with their head, not with their arse.

Je¿ iliryjski

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

----

@Hruz,

The argument:

"Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary" style is not very high class. You can do it better. Re-read what I wrote, in particular the word usage (not 'law' but 'guidelines').

Can you please provide with precise information about vehicle registration in Denmark, Sweden. Norway? As you said, "half the info is worse than ignorance". Precisely - now the ball is in your court, please provide me with the links supporting what you said.

BTW: I did NOT miss your remark - I judged it as pretty offensive and rather switched the topic instead of going into personal attack. I found the topic of unreasonable taxation more "chat-friendly" but if you want me comment on what you said precisely - I can do that.

---

Mmm, how's the public transportation?
(Amer, 14 January 2011 01:11)

The only serious comment (sigh).

1) The public transportation in BP (BKV) became the victim of corruption. The fare structure has no relation to the income. The rolling stock consists largely of obsolete vehicles, busses over 30 year old. Increasingly, many locals go rather by car. Despite these annoyances all this works and if I would live alone in a city house somewhere in BP that would be probably the solution. At the moment you are in suburbia things do not work to the advantage of BKV.

2) More importantly. People who used to a certain life style won't want to give it up. They are used to certain things and want to continue to live more-less the life they did live. Hungary does absolutely nothing to attract own people who live abroad. Believe or not - we are regularly asked:

"did you lose your mind by moving into this mess?"

I have to explain them - it's not THAT bad as they think and there are certain advantages. At the moment I explain that I am working "on-line" and not in the country - than (and only than) they say: "OK, now I see the point".

I do not see the point some people want to defend what is impossible to defend, except just to make Serbs feel bad. If that's their point - that is sick.

----

By the way: the entire picture what is presented to the outside world on this B92 forum is closely as sick as some "illyrianshqiptar" Youtube channel.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

Ataman
Your kidneys will remain intact. Since you are not a serb you are not celestial. And since you are not celestial nobody needs your kidneys, simple as that.
I only wonder how a smart person like you failed to notice this simple fact.

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

How about Belgrade begin issuing plates for Knin (KR) and Republika Srpska (RS)? The comments from the Croats and Albanians here are priceless. of course they can do such things but Belgrade must suck it up. Double standards.

DEX

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

Yes you tried that in WW2 and how did it end? Kosovo Is Serbia, you get it?

27145 Euro

pre 13 godina

That's at least a 70EUR fine by the way, quite pricey
(70EURO, 13 January 2011 19:29)

The replacement is always cheap by the way - the initial registration or re-registration is the headache.

Just for fun calculated how much my plates would cost - that's

- 3694376 HUF + 2872984 HUF + 884567 HUF = 7451927 HUF or 27145.20 Euro alias 36229.78 USD

And these cars aren't new anymore.

I see some difference between 3 x 70 = 210 Euro or 27145.20 Euro

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

----

@Hruz,

The argument:

"Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary" style is not very high class. You can do it better. Re-read what I wrote, in particular the word usage (not 'law' but 'guidelines').

Can you please provide with precise information about vehicle registration in Denmark, Sweden. Norway? As you said, "half the info is worse than ignorance". Precisely - now the ball is in your court, please provide me with the links supporting what you said.

BTW: I did NOT miss your remark - I judged it as pretty offensive and rather switched the topic instead of going into personal attack. I found the topic of unreasonable taxation more "chat-friendly" but if you want me comment on what you said precisely - I can do that.

---

Mmm, how's the public transportation?
(Amer, 14 January 2011 01:11)

The only serious comment (sigh).

1) The public transportation in BP (BKV) became the victim of corruption. The fare structure has no relation to the income. The rolling stock consists largely of obsolete vehicles, busses over 30 year old. Increasingly, many locals go rather by car. Despite these annoyances all this works and if I would live alone in a city house somewhere in BP that would be probably the solution. At the moment you are in suburbia things do not work to the advantage of BKV.

2) More importantly. People who used to a certain life style won't want to give it up. They are used to certain things and want to continue to live more-less the life they did live. Hungary does absolutely nothing to attract own people who live abroad. Believe or not - we are regularly asked:

"did you lose your mind by moving into this mess?"

I have to explain them - it's not THAT bad as they think and there are certain advantages. At the moment I explain that I am working "on-line" and not in the country - than (and only than) they say: "OK, now I see the point".

I do not see the point some people want to defend what is impossible to defend, except just to make Serbs feel bad. If that's their point - that is sick.

----

By the way: the entire picture what is presented to the outside world on this B92 forum is closely as sick as some "illyrianshqiptar" Youtube channel.
(Je¿ iliryjski, 14 January 2011 12:59) As a illyrian or shqiptar with this move made by Serbia issuing plates in other country his own plates you can't get it better laugh as this story by the way better told as Mr Been.. thanks /regards b92

Stevie

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244" and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo, If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.

Je¿ niewêgierski

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

Apologies - but this was quite a comment, Hruz.

Why do you think I am asking about Serbian and Kosovo plates - do you see my comment just below yours? Maybe because I changed not just my beliefs, but also sexual orientation and fell in love with Thaçi, right?

You know precisely what the "Regadó" = "registration tax" is and how the newcomers to Hungary are "taxated" - essentially against the EU guidelines.

It's much easier to get a green card with KS or SRB plates than with the U.S., that's why. And because these cars aren't as obvious on the road, than American ones.

Vojvodina Hungarians or Romanian Hungarians will ROFL at your idea. This "registration tax" robbery was very new for me as I moved and one of the source of my deepest dissatisfaction with the country. The government wants Hungarians to come in? Than they should think with their head, not with their arse.

Je¿ amerikañski

pre 13 godina

I certainly hope this will help improve the national mood - Hungarians seem to have been in a funk ever since Trianon.
(Amer, 13 January 2011 21:51)

Amer - feel free pay for my Hungarian plates. As long as you don't - I am going to keep U.S. and looking for all kind of others.

I will tell you quickly how much you would pay for yours - if you give me the first year of the registration and the the cm3 of the engine. The calculator is on-line here:

http://www.euvonal.hu/regado.php

At first you will get an infarct, if not - than the next question will be "how can a government do such insanity". Yes, they do. Even if you would come temporarily - you would need to pay. No newcomer does pay, EVERYONE who immigrates to Hungary becomes an illegal instantly, even if he has all visa... because of cars!

What Hungarians do? They register a company in Slovakia and buy cars in Slovakia. Or in the States. I never even have my Hungarian passport with me, if anything is (and the police does stop cars at random!) - I produce them American passport and they shut up.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

KPS means or it ment ;"Kosova Police Services", it is no longer the case, it is just simple; "Kosova Police".
Anyway, good job KP. Remove those scum plates from the old Yugo, since it no longer exists.

DEX

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

Yes you tried that in WW2 and how did it end? Kosovo Is Serbia, you get it?

Janez-Beograd

pre 13 godina

It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09)

How about Belgrade begin issuing plates for Knin (KR) and Republika Srpska (RS)? The comments from the Croats and Albanians here are priceless. of course they can do such things but Belgrade must suck it up. Double standards.

pss

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244" and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo, If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)
You are technically wrong, whether you agree with Kosovo independence or perceive it as a UN protectorate, 1244 removes the right of Serbia to do anything in Kosovo.
Maybe reading 1244 will help you understand it better.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"It is time Hungary start issuing UV (Ujvidek) plates for Novi Sad and NV Nagyvárad for Oradea. If we play the game, play it big.
(Hruz, 13 January 2011 20:09) "

Exactly. Hungary may end up as the only country in Central Europe with an increase in population in the next census. Too bad they waited so long to get started on this program - so it may not be until the 2021 census that the results become visible. I certainly hope this will help improve the national mood - Hungarians seem to have been in a funk ever since Trianon.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, - Stevie

No, I would argue otherwise. If you think differently can you explain to me why Serbia's plates aren't valid? Why Serbian politician's need permission from Govt in Prishtina...why Kosovo is represented in IMF, WB, etc?

icj1

pre 13 godina

Maybe reading 1244 will help you understand it better.
(pss, 13 January 2011 22:48)

Pss, your adviss must be more precise... reading the English or French version of 1244 will help understand it better. That is because the Serbian version contains many things (mentioned by many posters in this site) in addition to those contained in the original English/French version...

Je¿ iliryjski

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

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@Hruz,

The argument:

"Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary" style is not very high class. You can do it better. Re-read what I wrote, in particular the word usage (not 'law' but 'guidelines').

Can you please provide with precise information about vehicle registration in Denmark, Sweden. Norway? As you said, "half the info is worse than ignorance". Precisely - now the ball is in your court, please provide me with the links supporting what you said.

BTW: I did NOT miss your remark - I judged it as pretty offensive and rather switched the topic instead of going into personal attack. I found the topic of unreasonable taxation more "chat-friendly" but if you want me comment on what you said precisely - I can do that.

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Mmm, how's the public transportation?
(Amer, 14 January 2011 01:11)

The only serious comment (sigh).

1) The public transportation in BP (BKV) became the victim of corruption. The fare structure has no relation to the income. The rolling stock consists largely of obsolete vehicles, busses over 30 year old. Increasingly, many locals go rather by car. Despite these annoyances all this works and if I would live alone in a city house somewhere in BP that would be probably the solution. At the moment you are in suburbia things do not work to the advantage of BKV.

2) More importantly. People who used to a certain life style won't want to give it up. They are used to certain things and want to continue to live more-less the life they did live. Hungary does absolutely nothing to attract own people who live abroad. Believe or not - we are regularly asked:

"did you lose your mind by moving into this mess?"

I have to explain them - it's not THAT bad as they think and there are certain advantages. At the moment I explain that I am working "on-line" and not in the country - than (and only than) they say: "OK, now I see the point".

I do not see the point some people want to defend what is impossible to defend, except just to make Serbs feel bad. If that's their point - that is sick.

----

By the way: the entire picture what is presented to the outside world on this B92 forum is closely as sick as some "illyrianshqiptar" Youtube channel.

picu

pre 13 godina

Why police didn't listen to Ivanovic. Kosovo police should not seize new license plates.

Ivanovic soon will issue a new statement condemning this event and fire police that took these plates.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

I await word from the phantom ministers in belgrade. This is what happens when you act immaturely and become PERSONA-NON-GRATA...the only thing Oli and Bog could do is come to B92 and give speeches...maybe start an IRC forum....

27145 Euro

pre 13 godina

That's at least a 70EUR fine by the way, quite pricey
(70EURO, 13 January 2011 19:29)

The replacement is always cheap by the way - the initial registration or re-registration is the headache.

Just for fun calculated how much my plates would cost - that's

- 3694376 HUF + 2872984 HUF + 884567 HUF = 7451927 HUF or 27145.20 Euro alias 36229.78 USD

And these cars aren't new anymore.

I see some difference between 3 x 70 = 210 Euro or 27145.20 Euro

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

How one can get these plates, by the way?
(Ataman, 13 January 2011 19:43)

You as a Russian will get these plates free of charge, since Bogi and Oli are issueing them.

Hruz

pre 13 godina

Ataman

Again, you prove the old wisdom, half the knowledge is more dangerous than complete ignorance.

Let's see your comment:

1) You missed the point, my remark was not administrative, relating to vehicle registration, but I drew a comparison between Hungary's loss of territory and Serbia's, with the exception that Hungary is not fighting childishly, with vexation of the population, like the stamp game at the borders, parallel structures or issuing illegal plates.

2) Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary.

3) Taxation of vehicles is way higher in other countries, i.e Nordic countries.

4) It is absolutely not against EU law, it is not discriminative, applicable to all vehicles regardless of origin and the owner's citizenship.

Again, I stress, half the info is worse than ignorance. EU criticised only how the law was introduced, and in 2006 Hungary changed it to harmonize with EU principles, with the introduction of the depreciation multiplier of the vehicle.

Anyway, you missed the point of my remark fully.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

How one can get these plates, by the way?
(Ataman, 13 January 2011 19:43)

Ask Oli or Bogi. By the way do not attempt to enter Kosovo with these funny plates. American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''hat's at least a 70EUR fine by the way, quite pricey
(70EURO, 13 January 2011 19:29)

The replacement is always cheap by the way - the initial registration or re-registration is the headache.

Just for fun calculated how much my plates would cost - that's

- 3694376 HUF + 2872984 HUF + 884567 HUF = 7451927 HUF or 27145.20 Euro alias 36229.78 USD

And these cars aren't new anymore.

I see some difference between 3 x 70 = 210 Euro or 27145.20 Euro
(27145 Euro, 13 January 2011 23:59) ''

If this is all about the money, Albania has lowest taxes on cars, that's why here every one has a either a german car or a rover ... we can issue plates JA for Janina, TE for tetovo, OR for Oher, UL for Ulqin and so on...with the eagle stamped on them, maybe later on we can extend to NI for Nisch, TG for Tregu i Ri ...

icj9

pre 13 godina

Technically Kosovo is still a Serbian Province, ruled by UN "1244"
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

and also Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with 1244.



and If Belgrade decides to renew their license plates for the whole country that also means in Kosovo
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

No because Belgrade is not in charge in Kosovo, UNMIK is in charge according to Serbia. So, according to Serbia, only UNMIK can decide license plates in Kosovo.



If the USA empire and KLA thugs Don't accept that then its their problem.
those license plates will come one day iam sure off it.
(Stevie, 13 January 2011 22:19)

Sure, Serbian license plate can come in Kosovo when 1244 is terminated by the UNSC, which I don't think will happen any time soon.

pss

pre 13 godina

Pss, your adviss must be more precise... reading the English or French version of 1244 will help understand it better. That is because the Serbian version contains many things (mentioned by many posters in this site) in addition to those contained in the original English/French version...
(icj1, 14 January 2011 05:10)
I have said many times I need to get a copy of the Serbian version of 1244 because posters here always quote portions that are not available in the versions posted on the UN website.

Simpatiku

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

Ataman
Your kidneys will remain intact. Since you are not a serb you are not celestial. And since you are not celestial nobody needs your kidneys, simple as that.
I only wonder how a smart person like you failed to notice this simple fact.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

@Unsimpatiku

"American passport with russian, hungarian, hedgehog or whatever origin will not help you. Your Ataman and Jez Amerikanski, bolsewiczni and other nicknames will not help you either."

I go by different names in passport and I won't tell you what names: I want both my kidneys intact.

----

@Hruz,

The argument:

"Should you be unsatisfied, you are free to grab your passport and leave Hungary" style is not very high class. You can do it better. Re-read what I wrote, in particular the word usage (not 'law' but 'guidelines').

Can you please provide with precise information about vehicle registration in Denmark, Sweden. Norway? As you said, "half the info is worse than ignorance". Precisely - now the ball is in your court, please provide me with the links supporting what you said.

BTW: I did NOT miss your remark - I judged it as pretty offensive and rather switched the topic instead of going into personal attack. I found the topic of unreasonable taxation more "chat-friendly" but if you want me comment on what you said precisely - I can do that.

---

Mmm, how's the public transportation?
(Amer, 14 January 2011 01:11)

The only serious comment (sigh).

1) The public transportation in BP (BKV) became the victim of corruption. The fare structure has no relation to the income. The rolling stock consists largely of obsolete vehicles, busses over 30 year old. Increasingly, many locals go rather by car. Despite these annoyances all this works and if I would live alone in a city house somewhere in BP that would be probably the solution. At the moment you are in suburbia things do not work to the advantage of BKV.

2) More importantly. People who used to a certain life style won't want to give it up. They are used to certain things and want to continue to live more-less the life they did live. Hungary does absolutely nothing to attract own people who live abroad. Believe or not - we are regularly asked:

"did you lose your mind by moving into this mess?"

I have to explain them - it's not THAT bad as they think and there are certain advantages. At the moment I explain that I am working "on-line" and not in the country - than (and only than) they say: "OK, now I see the point".

I do not see the point some people want to defend what is impossible to defend, except just to make Serbs feel bad. If that's their point - that is sick.

----

By the way: the entire picture what is presented to the outside world on this B92 forum is closely as sick as some "illyrianshqiptar" Youtube channel.
(Je¿ iliryjski, 14 January 2011 12:59) As a illyrian or shqiptar with this move made by Serbia issuing plates in other country his own plates you can't get it better laugh as this story by the way better told as Mr Been.. thanks /regards b92