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Thursday, 06.01.2011.

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Deputy PM travels to Kosovo for Christmas

Deputy PM Božidar Đelić will spend Christmas on Friday visiting several locations in Kosovo, his cabinet announced today in Belgrade.

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icj1

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is made of criminals and terrorists who rig elections.
(Predrag, 7 January 2011 04:49)

So then it is beyond my comprehension why on earth Serbia would want to increase the number of criminals in Serbia by more than 2000% ?!!! Does Serbia even have the prison facilities to accomodate millions of prisoners (instead of the current tens of thousands).

But if Serbia still wants to do it, I'd recommend that Serbia first builds these new prison facilities (and a lot of them since they would need to hold as many prisoners as, for example, US has) and then ask for Kosovo to be brought back under Serbia. I'm sure Serbian taxpayers would be happy to pay a fortune to built all of these new prisons because, of course, Kosovo is more important for them. Once all is done, Serbia would have 1/4 of its population in prison !

icj1

pre 13 godina

Can someone of the Serb commentators explain this to me?
(The Flying Dutchman, 8 January 2011 14:40)

- Kosovo currently does not have a UN seat and so it is not represented at the UN. If it goes back under Serbia, it will be reppresented by Serbia;

- Kosovo currently is recognized by 73 countries, whereas if it goes back under Serbia will be recognized by 0 countries;

- Kosovo currently can be reppresented in some international meetings by its government and in some others by Zannier. However, if it goes back under Serbia, it will never be represented by the Kosovo government or Zannier, but always by Boris or Vuk or the like;

- Instead of the NATO and Kosovo's army, the Serbian Army (so much beloved by Albanians in Kosovo) will protect Kosovo.

I think these are very strong and appealing benefits that Serbia is offering Kosovo to accept to go back under Serbia. But Albanians in Kosovo are so ignorant that they don't understand them.

The Flying Dutchman

pre 13 godina

Serbs continue to amaze me. They will never accept Kosova's independence, but Kosovo-Albanians should accept Serbia's plan of "more of autonomy, and less of independence"? If you are so stubbern and categorical in 'never recognzing' Kosova, what exactly makes you think that Kosovo-Albanian are than willing to give up there independence? What can Serbia possibly more offer, that will make K-Albanians wanting to give up there independence and accept Belgrades authority? This is what I don't understand. Serbia calls for a 'compromise' which will be acceptable to the both parties yet at the same time they categorically reject independence as an outcome.
If Kosova's independence is not acceptable to the Serbian goverment, as they have emphasized so often, why should Serbia's plan (which is: Everything, but independence) be acceptable to the Kosovar goverment?

Can someone of the Serb commentators explain this to me?

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Woow this is pretty interesting... where did you see the surveys which support what you say ?
(icj1, 7 January 2011 04:19) "

A lot of people here are apparently do-it-yourself-ers.

icj1

pre 13 godina

What im trying to say is the fact that you guys haven't done a better job is appalling in my eyes. Its very dissapointing to your people that 38% is all you can muster up, and Kosovo is STILL poor.
Nema Predaje
(Nikola, 6 January 2011 17:23)

It is still better than Serbia that has mastered the support of only about 10% !

Predrag

pre 13 godina

Negotiations are kinda pointless!
Firstly, Who are you going to negotiate with??
Kosovo is made of criminals and terrorists who rig elections.
They have ZERO credibility!
What nation on earth would negotiate with these individuals?

Secondly, I wonder how much support this illegal criminal regime in Kosovo will have after the Snake/Thaci is convicted of mass murder and organ trafficking?

Thirdly, Thaci's big mouth isn't doing him any favors.
Making insane comments and accusing foreign diplomats of being Nazis then threatening to expose witnesses isn't the brightest move.

Finally, The Snake needs to understand that he isnt on the street corner dealing drug anymore.
His mafia style of politics wont work within a civilized world!

The Snake's insane blunders are really working in Serbia's favor!
Thanks Thaci/Snake, keep up the good work :-)

icj1

pre 13 godina

Team Albania should be careful about complacency. Whereas a clear majority of EU citizens remains regrettably ignorant about Kosovo, an equally clear majority of those who are familiar with issues, including those who have worked down there, are solidly behind Serbia in the dispute. This trend is irreversible and no amount of irrelevant whining about Milosevic or accusing the Swiss of Nazism can change that. Pristina's naive refusal to negotiate with Belgrade will only accelerate the process.
(Dave, 6 January 2011 18:12)

Woow this is pretty interesting... where did you see the surveys which support what you say ?

Dave

pre 13 godina

Team Albania should be careful about complacency. Whereas a clear majority of EU citizens remains regrettably ignorant about Kosovo, an equally clear majority of those who are familiar with issues, including those who have worked down there, are solidly behind Serbia in the dispute. This trend is irreversible and no amount of irrelevant whining about Milosevic or accusing the Swiss of Nazism can change that. Pristina's naive refusal to negotiate with Belgrade will only accelerate the process.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

"We expect that Priština will form its team and platform and that historic negotiations will begin with simple, technical issues, and move on to the crucial status issues," Đelić said


Delusional !!!!!!!!

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Does Delic know that group of Serbs in northern Mitro attacked one EULEX and one OSCE employee? Why this news is not on top of this web site?

gajo

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.
(Kosova-USA, 6 January 2011 14:38) you think so he never asked the albanians if he could come in hes just going in and nothing you can do about it lol that's whats funny and its the eulex and the UN that is controlling evertything and not the albanians and Belgrade has allot of say also so that's pretty damb good and prishtina is failing
and if you dont have the superpowers to back you then your done and america is not a superpower anymore its the bric and others including serbia lol and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL INCLUDING YOU

Nikola

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.
(KosovO-USA, 6 January 2011 14:38)


Ya but here is where you lose. 73 of 192 countries in the UN recognize Kosovo as something other than a province of Serbia. Judging by your nationality, you are probably not very educated so I will do the math for you, that is 38% of the world.

Throw in the fact that out of those 73 countries, a good 10-15 of them are irrelevant pacific island "countries" that you cannot locate on a map.

Not too bad considering you have support from the strongest country in the world (its a falling empire, but it is still a empire) and PLUS we have puppets working for that empire in OUR (our as in mine & yours) very capital.


What im trying to say is the fact that you guys haven't done a better job is appalling in my eyes. Its very dissapointing to your people that 38% is all you can muster up, and Kosovo is STILL poor.

I don't see a country, I see clowns in a circus.

Nema Predaje

Top

pre 13 godina

And now, in 2011, the EU,USA and UN are saying the Pristina-Belgrade dialogue should start soon, because the Kosovo experiment, in its current state, has failed, and an agreement has to be found ;-)

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.

PRN

pre 13 godina

In March 2008 Serbian government were saying "Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 20 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence."

In MID 2008 again were saying
"Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 10 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

now 2011

"Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 5 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

BY THE END OF THIS YEAR the statement will come to "Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 2 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

Top

pre 13 godina

And now, in 2011, the EU,USA and UN are saying the Pristina-Belgrade dialogue should start soon, because the Kosovo experiment, in its current state, has failed, and an agreement has to be found ;-)

PRN

pre 13 godina

In March 2008 Serbian government were saying "Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 20 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence."

In MID 2008 again were saying
"Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 10 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

now 2011

"Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 5 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

BY THE END OF THIS YEAR the statement will come to "Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 2 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

Nikola

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.
(KosovO-USA, 6 January 2011 14:38)


Ya but here is where you lose. 73 of 192 countries in the UN recognize Kosovo as something other than a province of Serbia. Judging by your nationality, you are probably not very educated so I will do the math for you, that is 38% of the world.

Throw in the fact that out of those 73 countries, a good 10-15 of them are irrelevant pacific island "countries" that you cannot locate on a map.

Not too bad considering you have support from the strongest country in the world (its a falling empire, but it is still a empire) and PLUS we have puppets working for that empire in OUR (our as in mine & yours) very capital.


What im trying to say is the fact that you guys haven't done a better job is appalling in my eyes. Its very dissapointing to your people that 38% is all you can muster up, and Kosovo is STILL poor.

I don't see a country, I see clowns in a circus.

Nema Predaje

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.

Dave

pre 13 godina

Team Albania should be careful about complacency. Whereas a clear majority of EU citizens remains regrettably ignorant about Kosovo, an equally clear majority of those who are familiar with issues, including those who have worked down there, are solidly behind Serbia in the dispute. This trend is irreversible and no amount of irrelevant whining about Milosevic or accusing the Swiss of Nazism can change that. Pristina's naive refusal to negotiate with Belgrade will only accelerate the process.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Does Delic know that group of Serbs in northern Mitro attacked one EULEX and one OSCE employee? Why this news is not on top of this web site?

KOSO

pre 13 godina

"We expect that Priština will form its team and platform and that historic negotiations will begin with simple, technical issues, and move on to the crucial status issues," Đelić said


Delusional !!!!!!!!

Predrag

pre 13 godina

Negotiations are kinda pointless!
Firstly, Who are you going to negotiate with??
Kosovo is made of criminals and terrorists who rig elections.
They have ZERO credibility!
What nation on earth would negotiate with these individuals?

Secondly, I wonder how much support this illegal criminal regime in Kosovo will have after the Snake/Thaci is convicted of mass murder and organ trafficking?

Thirdly, Thaci's big mouth isn't doing him any favors.
Making insane comments and accusing foreign diplomats of being Nazis then threatening to expose witnesses isn't the brightest move.

Finally, The Snake needs to understand that he isnt on the street corner dealing drug anymore.
His mafia style of politics wont work within a civilized world!

The Snake's insane blunders are really working in Serbia's favor!
Thanks Thaci/Snake, keep up the good work :-)

gajo

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.
(Kosova-USA, 6 January 2011 14:38) you think so he never asked the albanians if he could come in hes just going in and nothing you can do about it lol that's whats funny and its the eulex and the UN that is controlling evertything and not the albanians and Belgrade has allot of say also so that's pretty damb good and prishtina is failing
and if you dont have the superpowers to back you then your done and america is not a superpower anymore its the bric and others including serbia lol and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL INCLUDING YOU

icj1

pre 13 godina

Team Albania should be careful about complacency. Whereas a clear majority of EU citizens remains regrettably ignorant about Kosovo, an equally clear majority of those who are familiar with issues, including those who have worked down there, are solidly behind Serbia in the dispute. This trend is irreversible and no amount of irrelevant whining about Milosevic or accusing the Swiss of Nazism can change that. Pristina's naive refusal to negotiate with Belgrade will only accelerate the process.
(Dave, 6 January 2011 18:12)

Woow this is pretty interesting... where did you see the surveys which support what you say ?

icj1

pre 13 godina

What im trying to say is the fact that you guys haven't done a better job is appalling in my eyes. Its very dissapointing to your people that 38% is all you can muster up, and Kosovo is STILL poor.
Nema Predaje
(Nikola, 6 January 2011 17:23)

It is still better than Serbia that has mastered the support of only about 10% !

The Flying Dutchman

pre 13 godina

Serbs continue to amaze me. They will never accept Kosova's independence, but Kosovo-Albanians should accept Serbia's plan of "more of autonomy, and less of independence"? If you are so stubbern and categorical in 'never recognzing' Kosova, what exactly makes you think that Kosovo-Albanian are than willing to give up there independence? What can Serbia possibly more offer, that will make K-Albanians wanting to give up there independence and accept Belgrades authority? This is what I don't understand. Serbia calls for a 'compromise' which will be acceptable to the both parties yet at the same time they categorically reject independence as an outcome.
If Kosova's independence is not acceptable to the Serbian goverment, as they have emphasized so often, why should Serbia's plan (which is: Everything, but independence) be acceptable to the Kosovar goverment?

Can someone of the Serb commentators explain this to me?

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Woow this is pretty interesting... where did you see the surveys which support what you say ?
(icj1, 7 January 2011 04:19) "

A lot of people here are apparently do-it-yourself-ers.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is made of criminals and terrorists who rig elections.
(Predrag, 7 January 2011 04:49)

So then it is beyond my comprehension why on earth Serbia would want to increase the number of criminals in Serbia by more than 2000% ?!!! Does Serbia even have the prison facilities to accomodate millions of prisoners (instead of the current tens of thousands).

But if Serbia still wants to do it, I'd recommend that Serbia first builds these new prison facilities (and a lot of them since they would need to hold as many prisoners as, for example, US has) and then ask for Kosovo to be brought back under Serbia. I'm sure Serbian taxpayers would be happy to pay a fortune to built all of these new prisons because, of course, Kosovo is more important for them. Once all is done, Serbia would have 1/4 of its population in prison !

icj1

pre 13 godina

Can someone of the Serb commentators explain this to me?
(The Flying Dutchman, 8 January 2011 14:40)

- Kosovo currently does not have a UN seat and so it is not represented at the UN. If it goes back under Serbia, it will be reppresented by Serbia;

- Kosovo currently is recognized by 73 countries, whereas if it goes back under Serbia will be recognized by 0 countries;

- Kosovo currently can be reppresented in some international meetings by its government and in some others by Zannier. However, if it goes back under Serbia, it will never be represented by the Kosovo government or Zannier, but always by Boris or Vuk or the like;

- Instead of the NATO and Kosovo's army, the Serbian Army (so much beloved by Albanians in Kosovo) will protect Kosovo.

I think these are very strong and appealing benefits that Serbia is offering Kosovo to accept to go back under Serbia. But Albanians in Kosovo are so ignorant that they don't understand them.

PRN

pre 13 godina

In March 2008 Serbian government were saying "Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 20 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence."

In MID 2008 again were saying
"Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 10 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

now 2011

"Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 5 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

BY THE END OF THIS YEAR the statement will come to "Belgrade-Priština dialogue is expected to begin soon, and pointed out that 2 EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence. "

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Does Delic know that group of Serbs in northern Mitro attacked one EULEX and one OSCE employee? Why this news is not on top of this web site?

Top

pre 13 godina

And now, in 2011, the EU,USA and UN are saying the Pristina-Belgrade dialogue should start soon, because the Kosovo experiment, in its current state, has failed, and an agreement has to be found ;-)

Nikola

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.
(KosovO-USA, 6 January 2011 14:38)


Ya but here is where you lose. 73 of 192 countries in the UN recognize Kosovo as something other than a province of Serbia. Judging by your nationality, you are probably not very educated so I will do the math for you, that is 38% of the world.

Throw in the fact that out of those 73 countries, a good 10-15 of them are irrelevant pacific island "countries" that you cannot locate on a map.

Not too bad considering you have support from the strongest country in the world (its a falling empire, but it is still a empire) and PLUS we have puppets working for that empire in OUR (our as in mine & yours) very capital.


What im trying to say is the fact that you guys haven't done a better job is appalling in my eyes. Its very dissapointing to your people that 38% is all you can muster up, and Kosovo is STILL poor.

I don't see a country, I see clowns in a circus.

Nema Predaje

KOSO

pre 13 godina

"We expect that Priština will form its team and platform and that historic negotiations will begin with simple, technical issues, and move on to the crucial status issues," Đelić said


Delusional !!!!!!!!

Dave

pre 13 godina

Team Albania should be careful about complacency. Whereas a clear majority of EU citizens remains regrettably ignorant about Kosovo, an equally clear majority of those who are familiar with issues, including those who have worked down there, are solidly behind Serbia in the dispute. This trend is irreversible and no amount of irrelevant whining about Milosevic or accusing the Swiss of Nazism can change that. Pristina's naive refusal to negotiate with Belgrade will only accelerate the process.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Team Albania should be careful about complacency. Whereas a clear majority of EU citizens remains regrettably ignorant about Kosovo, an equally clear majority of those who are familiar with issues, including those who have worked down there, are solidly behind Serbia in the dispute. This trend is irreversible and no amount of irrelevant whining about Milosevic or accusing the Swiss of Nazism can change that. Pristina's naive refusal to negotiate with Belgrade will only accelerate the process.
(Dave, 6 January 2011 18:12)

Woow this is pretty interesting... where did you see the surveys which support what you say ?

gajo

pre 13 godina

and pointed out that five EU members have not yet recognized Kosovo's independence

22 out 27, I say is pretty darn good.
Prishtina is well ahead of Belgrade on this one.
(Kosova-USA, 6 January 2011 14:38) you think so he never asked the albanians if he could come in hes just going in and nothing you can do about it lol that's whats funny and its the eulex and the UN that is controlling evertything and not the albanians and Belgrade has allot of say also so that's pretty damb good and prishtina is failing
and if you dont have the superpowers to back you then your done and america is not a superpower anymore its the bric and others including serbia lol and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL INCLUDING YOU

icj1

pre 13 godina

What im trying to say is the fact that you guys haven't done a better job is appalling in my eyes. Its very dissapointing to your people that 38% is all you can muster up, and Kosovo is STILL poor.
Nema Predaje
(Nikola, 6 January 2011 17:23)

It is still better than Serbia that has mastered the support of only about 10% !

Predrag

pre 13 godina

Negotiations are kinda pointless!
Firstly, Who are you going to negotiate with??
Kosovo is made of criminals and terrorists who rig elections.
They have ZERO credibility!
What nation on earth would negotiate with these individuals?

Secondly, I wonder how much support this illegal criminal regime in Kosovo will have after the Snake/Thaci is convicted of mass murder and organ trafficking?

Thirdly, Thaci's big mouth isn't doing him any favors.
Making insane comments and accusing foreign diplomats of being Nazis then threatening to expose witnesses isn't the brightest move.

Finally, The Snake needs to understand that he isnt on the street corner dealing drug anymore.
His mafia style of politics wont work within a civilized world!

The Snake's insane blunders are really working in Serbia's favor!
Thanks Thaci/Snake, keep up the good work :-)

The Flying Dutchman

pre 13 godina

Serbs continue to amaze me. They will never accept Kosova's independence, but Kosovo-Albanians should accept Serbia's plan of "more of autonomy, and less of independence"? If you are so stubbern and categorical in 'never recognzing' Kosova, what exactly makes you think that Kosovo-Albanian are than willing to give up there independence? What can Serbia possibly more offer, that will make K-Albanians wanting to give up there independence and accept Belgrades authority? This is what I don't understand. Serbia calls for a 'compromise' which will be acceptable to the both parties yet at the same time they categorically reject independence as an outcome.
If Kosova's independence is not acceptable to the Serbian goverment, as they have emphasized so often, why should Serbia's plan (which is: Everything, but independence) be acceptable to the Kosovar goverment?

Can someone of the Serb commentators explain this to me?

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Woow this is pretty interesting... where did you see the surveys which support what you say ?
(icj1, 7 January 2011 04:19) "

A lot of people here are apparently do-it-yourself-ers.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is made of criminals and terrorists who rig elections.
(Predrag, 7 January 2011 04:49)

So then it is beyond my comprehension why on earth Serbia would want to increase the number of criminals in Serbia by more than 2000% ?!!! Does Serbia even have the prison facilities to accomodate millions of prisoners (instead of the current tens of thousands).

But if Serbia still wants to do it, I'd recommend that Serbia first builds these new prison facilities (and a lot of them since they would need to hold as many prisoners as, for example, US has) and then ask for Kosovo to be brought back under Serbia. I'm sure Serbian taxpayers would be happy to pay a fortune to built all of these new prisons because, of course, Kosovo is more important for them. Once all is done, Serbia would have 1/4 of its population in prison !

icj1

pre 13 godina

Can someone of the Serb commentators explain this to me?
(The Flying Dutchman, 8 January 2011 14:40)

- Kosovo currently does not have a UN seat and so it is not represented at the UN. If it goes back under Serbia, it will be reppresented by Serbia;

- Kosovo currently is recognized by 73 countries, whereas if it goes back under Serbia will be recognized by 0 countries;

- Kosovo currently can be reppresented in some international meetings by its government and in some others by Zannier. However, if it goes back under Serbia, it will never be represented by the Kosovo government or Zannier, but always by Boris or Vuk or the like;

- Instead of the NATO and Kosovo's army, the Serbian Army (so much beloved by Albanians in Kosovo) will protect Kosovo.

I think these are very strong and appealing benefits that Serbia is offering Kosovo to accept to go back under Serbia. But Albanians in Kosovo are so ignorant that they don't understand them.