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Thursday, 06.01.2011.

10:59

“Fascist occupation of Kosovo continues”

Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day.

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Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Look who is talking.... is he talking to himself? Serbia has a lot to learn. A healthy reflection on it's past would bea first step ....

Zoti

pre 13 godina

There is no egg on our face as it was a rigged decision by the US.
(sj, 8 January 2011)

By now you have a giant omelette frying in your face so you don't notice the additional eggs served to you.
I'm not gonna bother responding to the rest of your post since B92 already truncated half of my previous comment.
Seems like even Serb journalists cannot handle the bitter truth about Kosova.

So long.

sj

pre 13 godina

(Zoti, 8 January 2011 19:49)

There is no egg on our face as it was a rigged decision by the US. However, I suggest that you guys go back to the ICJ and demand that it issue a statement that Kosovo is independent. The ICJ only said that the act was not illegal, but never said that Kosovo is independent – I would have thought that being one of the most incarcerated groups on this planet you guys would be able to tell the difference in legal interpretations. But maybe not, perhaps being ignorant is another one of your strengths.
Yes I have read that the Albanians claim to have lived in the Kosovo since the days of Atlantis, but unfortunately they were not in those numbers. This only occurred since WW2 when that bastard Tito decided to give your fathers asylum and allowed them to settle in Kosovo in large numbers.
Considering your people have been in Kosovo since the dawn of time, why is there no archeological evidence to support that theory? There is not even a cave painting that can be attributed to the Albanians.
Serbs arrived in the 6 Century in large numbers, but we left a big impression in Kosovo with our buildings and Churches – once again where are yours to be found???????

Zoti

pre 13 godina

What does Kosovo have to be a sustainable country? Nothing, oh, expect 2 million mouths to feed and who do you think will have to take on that burden? Germany, Austria, Hungary? No it’s going to be Serbia again.
By the way being 90% in an area of a country does not mean immigrants can take it away from a State. You might want to go back to the ICJ and ask it to declare you independent – good luck in trying that one.
(sj, 8 January 2011)

We'll leave the ICJ to you guys since you never get enough eggs in your face.
And Albanian are not immigrants in Kosova but indigenous population. The immigrants are the Serbs and there is a very well documented of your migration from the Russian steppes to the Balkans in the VII century.


P.S. Thanks B92 for keeping this story at the top and getting rid of the Qatar recognition.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Stop speaking as an American when we all know that you are Albanian. You had NOTHING to do with winning any war.

You got one thing right though. The law is on the side of the bigger guns but that is only temporary. Nobody has the biggest guns forever.
(peggy, 8 January 2011 14:57) "

"We all know" in this case = "Peggy thinks (for some strange reason)"

Granted, I had nothing to do with winning the Revolutionary War, but one of my great-greats did (he was a privateer, sort of like a sea-going hajduk with a license, from George Washington).

peggy

pre 13 godina

If we had not won the war (with a little help from our friends) it would have been illegal and all those guys whose portraits now adorn our currency would have been hanged as traitors. Moral: God and law are on the side of the bigger guns.
(Amer, 8 January 2011 04:33)
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Stop speaking as an American when we all know that you are Albanian. You had NOTHING to do with winning any war.

You got one thing right though. The law is on the side of the bigger guns but that is only temporary. Nobody has the biggest guns forever.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

So Kosovo has been Serbian for only 0.000014% of its history. And that's a totally insignificant portion of the Kosovo's history.
(icj1, 8 January 2011 05:36)
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Are you for real?

Now, come back when you can point to some time in history when Kosovo actually belonged to Albanians. Show me some proof, anything.

The Flying Dutch

pre 13 godina

"No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality..."

"We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians..."
(CG, 7 January 2011 00:17)

I hope you are being sarcastic, right? A country which incited 4 devestating wars which caused so much pain and suffering; a country which is responsible for the death of hundred of thousands of people. You cal this "pacifist mentality"? If you want to be taken serious, than don't make such outragous comments, oké?

doursej palokaj

pre 13 godina

Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. (Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)
Dardanian´s never belong to serbia serbians from carpathian arrived in balkan in 700 B.C, so we welcome that .
But Regarding Dardania "Kosova" belong to albanians, 98% of them inhabited. we do not ask you what it was population of Kosovo is growing extreme Milosevic's regime has never shown the truth about total number of population that is expected to arrive 3 mill newer say never in politics

icj1

pre 13 godina

yet Serbia must give up a significant portion of its territory, because a politician Bill Clinton(who cant even keep his marriage vows, smoked dope - but didnt inhale) and his so sincere friend, Tony (whatever you say USA) Blair say its OK?
(NasEnglez, 7 January 2011 21:57)

I think you got it wrong... It was Serbia who told Albanians in Kosovo to leave in the Spring of 1999 and they did just that... left Serbia !

icj1

pre 13 godina

Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. (Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)

Let's assume you are right.... but Kosovo's territory was created together with the whole Earth 5 billion years ago (of course according to science and not Mr. Radovica's God).

So Kosovo has been Serbian for only 0.000014% of its history. And that's a totally insignificant portion of the Kosovo's history.

icj1

pre 13 godina

The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now.
(Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)

How many Albanians did Serbs allow to settle in Kosovo after WWII ? And where did those Albanians come from ?

Amer

pre 13 godina

"The USA had a civil war about succession. And the result was its not allowed.

(NasEnglez, 7 January 2011 21:57) "

We had an earlier war - the Revolutionary War - and seceded from Britain. That time I guess it was allowed.

If we had not won the war (with a little help from our friends) it would have been illegal and all those guys whose portraits now adorn our currency would have been hanged as traitors. Moral: God and law are on the side of the bigger guns.

CG

pre 13 godina

" Blessed are the peace makers"
Hristos se Rodi!!!
(messenger, 7 January 2011 18:55)

You cannot make peace with someone who is trying to exterminate you!

Vaistina se rodi!

sj

pre 13 godina

And how do you think did the Aussies get Tasmania from the Aboriginals, and not just Tasmania but the whole continent?

If the Lebanese become 90% of the population Tasmania, they'll do the same think the Brits did to the Aboriginals.
(Zoti, 7 January 2011 21:26)

The big difference is that Tasmania is a self-sustaining island with plenty of natural resources i.e minerals, timber and water. It has more than enough energy and it has a vast amount of very good arable land – in fact it has some of the best in Australia, second only to the Liverpool Plain in New South Wales. It also has plenty of sea produce which is in high demand throughout Asia because it’s produced in clean non-polluted waters.
What does Kosovo have to be a sustainable country? Nothing, oh, expect 2 million mouths to feed and who do you think will have to take on that burden? Germany, Austria, Hungary? No it’s going to be Serbia again.
By the way being 90% in an area of a country does not mean immigrants can take it away from a State. You might want to go back to the ICJ and ask it to declare you independent – good luck in trying that one.
Perhaps you might

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now."
The world according to Peggy... History has to be rewritten!
(Overlord, 7 January 2011 12:15)
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You are the ones trying to rewrite history. I am only trying to preserve it.

NasEnglez

pre 13 godina

At this time of year let us remember the doxology, "Peace on Earth, and Goodwill to men".

In relation to the Holy Fathers statement, I must agree, there is a continuation of the Facist ideals of the 20's and 30's, continuing in the KiM. KLA or IMRO, whats the difference?Ultimately they both utilised brigandage as a political tool to acheive their aims. Political killing= the weak by the willing. I accept that great wrongs were done by and to many people during the break up of Yugoslavia, however before everyone runs to attack the Serbs, if events in Kosovo and Sebrenica are always to be shouted about, why not events in Jasenovac and kragujevac? I come from the UK and have seen the damage done to my country by mass immigration. And if Canterbury Cathedral was suddenly in another country i.e Kentistan, you can bet your boots I would be upset. And, if the same "allies", who I had fought with against facism then bombed my country to get me to accept that I must give over my cultural and religious centre because the majority demanded it, then you can bet your boots I would not like it much. The hipocrisy of the western politicians begs belief. The USA had a civil war about succession. And the result was its not allowed. And I doubt very much if the UK would accept the Islamic Republic of Birminghamistan, yet Serbia must give up a significant portion of its territory, because a politician Bill Clinton(who cant even keep his marriage vows, smoked dope - but didnt inhale) and his so sincere friend, Tony (whatever you say USA) Blair say its OK? Then yes Facisim and the rule of right is might is continuing in KiM.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

Well Aussie, how would you like it if, say the Lebanese, immigrated in their hundreds of thousands to Australia and then all of a sudden annexed Tasmania and declaring it independent? To add more to the story say the Anglo Saxon Australians had their most revered historical buildings etc now what do you think the average Aussie would say? Remember the Cronulla riots.
I know a large number of Aussies and their answer would be “they can go to hell if they want but they are not taking our land”.
You get the message now!
(sj, 7 January 2011)

And how do you think did the Aussies get Tasmania from the Aboriginals, and not just Tasmania but the whole continent?

If the Lebanese become 90% of the population Tasmania, they'll do the same think the Brits did to the Aboriginals.

messenger

pre 13 godina

In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 Januar

" Blessed are the peace makers"
Hristos se Rodi!!!

Anti Taliban Murijash

pre 13 godina

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)

The most stupid post in a long time...
They attack you,snatch your land away ,chase your people out of their homes and you would "forgive them" like Christ did ...
No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality...
If your definition of Christianity is pacifisim,cowardice and not standing up to your enemies ,than no,than I am not a Christian ...
In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 January 2011 00:17)


In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 Januar

Yes. Your "priests" chose to roost with the chickens instead of soaring high above the world within the infinite Mind of God, and if you follow them you too will roost with the chickens, as you are now. But there is hope. You can make another choice--now. Even after 2,000 years it is not too late to accept right thinking.

Je¿ nie albañski

pre 13 godina

They speak Shqip, a language whitch descends form the Ancient Illyrians.
(Skifteri, 7 January 2011 06:35)

As much proof as that we speak a language which is related to the ancient Sumerian.
The re-unification of Iraq and Hungary is not imminent.

http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/Suwordorder.html
http://www.szabir.com/blog/hungarian-sumerian-and-egyptian-hebrew

(and so on).

N.B.: while Hungarian-Sumerian connection is much better proven than Albanian-Illyrian, it is NOT official and remains just a speculation. "Ancient Illyrians" is a nationalist phantasy.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''The German people at least feel shame but the Albanian public only laughs bc they are atheists who lack religious morals.''

LoL ''atheists who lack religious morals'' ...

sj

pre 13 godina

(Aussie Of Sydney, 7 January 2011 03:00)

Well Aussie, how would you like it if, say the Lebanese, immigrated in their hundreds of thousands to Australia and then all of a sudden annexed Tasmania and declaring it independent? To add more to the story say the Anglo Saxon Australians had their most revered historical buildings etc now what do you think the average Aussie would say? Remember the Cronulla riots.
I know a large number of Aussies and their answer would be “they can go to hell if they want but they are not taking our land”.
You get the message now!

Overlord

pre 13 godina

"The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now."
The world according to Peggy... History has to be rewritten!

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Lets Take Vojvodina for an example.. it has a Hungarian Population of 200 000 and a Serb Majority... would you precious serbs like it if Hungary Annexed Vojvodina? same logic applies right...
(Aussie Of Sydney, 7 January 2011 03:00)
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Listen Albanian of Sydney, stop comparing apples and oranges.
Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. You cannot say the same for Vojvodina.

The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now.
You obviously cannot be trusted to respect the country in which you live unless it is ruled by your own.
That really says a lot about the sort of people you are. This is your shame and you should not be proclaiming so proudly how you managed to cheat Serbs out of their land.

Overlord

pre 13 godina

Peggy, you are the one wanting K-Albanians reintegrated into Serbia although you obviously have no love lost for them... 7 million Serbs (of whom only 83% are ethnic Serbs) meeting 2 million K-Albanians in one common state would make a ratio of 1 to 3,5. Would be interesting...For sure you,who are so much in favor of minority rights, would cheer for a K-Albanian president of Serbia, wouldn't you?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.
roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)
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Why am I not convinced that you are genuine?
Oh yes, your post are all filled with hate towards the Serbs and now you are sending good wishes to them?

How false can you be Roberto? I would respect you more if you were honest about your feeling towards the Serbs all the time.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Nearly ever single comment on this is by Albanians trying to insult this man of the church.
That says more about the Albanians than about the man.

Skifteri

pre 13 godina

We don't believe you - because there is not a single Illyrian in Vučitrn.
(Je¿ vuczitrnski, 6 January 2011 20:21)

They speak Shqip, a language whitch descends form the Ancient Illyrians.

Dardania-Albania unification is imminent. Or maybe we will wait for a couple of decades similarly the East and West German unification :)

Logic

pre 13 godina

Ylber wrote: "I feel awful having to dignify it with response".
Hmmm... A few days ago dear Tachi was pretty generous in applying expressions "Nazi", "fascist propaganda" "Goebbels" to a prominent citizen of Switzerland. Albanian camp was applauding that speech.Not a word of disagreement even. Nobody remembered then that this WAS an insult to the West which IS feeding the youngest, proud Europeans for so many years already.In contrary, more insults, more stones were thrown at the very country that is giving food and home to significant numbers of that "dignified" camp. Anybody felt awful about Tachi's blabbering?

Luke Buyenovich

pre 13 godina

HIS HOLINESS METROPOLITAN AMFILOHIJE spoke the truth.Ever since NATO entered province of KOSMET 10.5 years ago on numerous occasion Kosovo Albanians attacked SPC property, burnt Churches and desecrated graves.Additionally,killed and evicted from their home number of Serbs,even bombed school bus and killing Serbian children.Killing Serbs,extracting and selling their organs is a new low for EU and the West.(Occupying forces may not have directly participated, negligent factor is there and ICJ must deal with it). In view of all of this how else one can can characterized Western presence in KOSMET?HIS Holiness is man of cloth and God. Forgiveness and good will is in His soul and heart.However,
one existence must be protected in order to deliver God's given goods to mankind.
We all must speak up when we see threatenig evil.Creation of terrorist Kosovo Albanian state is a evil, which must be stopped.Many Serbs including this one, are deeply offended by conduct of Kosovo occupying forces.The quote of one of the greatest Serb ever lived is appropriate here."GNJEV PRAVEDNI ORUZJE JE PRAVDE"

Aussie Of Sydney

pre 13 godina

Last time i ckecked there is like 50 000 Serbs and 2 Million Albanians in Kosovo.. hmm in Australian there is like 500 000 Aboriginals and 22 million non Abos.. According to the serb logic the Abos should be running the joint...

let it go boys... concentrate on Bosnia.. Yeah Kosovo was a part of Serbia once but not anymore... there are 2 millions Albanians living there who dont want to live under Serbia right or wrong...

Besides we are all people... it doesnt matter who was there first, what matters is the Majority of Kosovo is Albanian and we should respect the Albanians rights..

Lets Take Vojvodina for an example.. it has a Hungarian Population of 200 000 and a Serb Majority... would you precious serbs like it if Hungary Annexed Vojvodina? same logic applies right...

Liria

pre 13 godina

Yesterday there was also a person dressed as this one claiming to be Orthodox priest.

It seems both these men are on medecine and have lost the reality.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

It's so shame holding a cross in one hand and other talking hate... do you really know the meaning of the person who hold the cross and preach to humanity JESUS sacrifice himself for PEACE not for HATE but people like you are no different from those radicals from other religion's ..its to feel sorry how religion's are becoming a corruption tool..

Jugolslavija

pre 13 godina

Excuse me, mr., we got rid of fascism in Kosova in june, 1999.

as for serbia and fascism, that's a whole other story.

roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)

You are going to tell us the story about fascism in Serbia?

You must be joking, you can't even put two sentences together without contradicting yourself at the same time.

The hatred against the SPC (Serbian Orthodox Church) and the entire Orthodox Church is growing because it is the root of the Christian faith.

That hatred against the church was manifested under Nazism.

Bishop Nikolai Velimirovic was jailed in Dachau by the Nazi regime in 1941, one of the great Serbian spritual leaders and many of his letters are in the Ochrid Monastery in what is now called FYROM.

Patrichiate Gavrilo of Yugoslavia was also jailed in Dacau after the invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, he did not make it out alive.

The burning of Orthodox chuches and the desecration of gravesites is an ominous sign of the Nazi regime re-lived again the holy land of Kosovo and Metohia.

CG

pre 13 godina

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)

The most stupid post in a long time...
They attack you,snatch your land away ,chase your people out of their homes and you would "forgive them" like Christ did ...
No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality...
If your definition of Christianity is pacifisim,cowardice and not standing up to your enemies ,than no,than I am not a Christian ...
In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...

Je¿ boloñski

pre 13 godina

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.
roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)

That wish would sound more honest if who celebrate today would get the explanation what your famous "baloney" was about. Otherwise that wish sounds pretty much a baloney, too.

That "baloney" will be mentioned once in a while. Till you prove to be a man with a backbone.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

Bravo Amfilohije,I am so proud since myself I am a Montenegrin like you!

Well, Whoop-dee-doo!

A holy man that claims that he "knows Christ" would not have divisive thoughts or utter words that separate and divide His flock--Never!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)


The hypocritical statements and contradictions are coming from your post, nothing else.

If you Montenegrin, than you disagree on the initative to create an autocephalus Montenegrin Orthodox Church, similar to the FYROM authocephalus Orthodox Church not recognized by the Patrichiate of Constantinopoli. This only serves to further disintigrate and divide the Orthodox believers.

The reason you hate the Holy Father Amfilohije is that he continues to support the SPC in Montenegro while others want to destroy it.

pss

pre 13 godina

His ramblings and demeaner remind me of a famous religious leader from the US, Rev Jimmy Jones. My advice to his followers, if there is any gatherings--DO NOT drink the KOOL AID.

Nexh

pre 13 godina

I think it would've been better if pope tries to unite people and not bring more hate. This is not helping anyone!
Church or mosque should not get involved in politics.

Only with Love all things are possible!!!

pre 13 godina

Bravo Amfilohije,I am so proud since myself I am a Montenegrin like you!

Well, Whoop-dee-doo!

It is appropriate to call it as it is,but also to remember:

We Montenegrens recognized Kosovo in our own language.

Should we remember everything, just some things, or try to forget everything and move on like brothers and sisters that we truly all are?
A holy man that claims that he "knows Christ" would not have divisive thoughts or utter words that separate and divide His flock--Never!
Maybe its a good idea in the future to get someone from Sveta Gora that "saw" the Light, to lead the church and let the religious generals, historians and tradition philosophers retire. If not, then you will go down the road like the Catholic Church--you will lose the young generations that see the contradictions
and the hypocrisy. And then you are going to blame the "others", other forces, and create more division amongst the people.
Those that deviate from Truth and Love can land in the company of Croat Catholics and radical Islamists--
real quick--if they don't wake up to God!
Those that teach the essence of Christ which is forgiveness and love one another, are beyond criticism.
We are all forgiven.Remember? Your job is to spread that good news and not play politics with God's children and continue to divide them.

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!

roberto

pre 13 godina

Excuse me, mr., we got rid of fascism in Kosova in june, 1999.except for the upper north of mitrovica, which continues to be ruled by mup agents and multi- ethnic :)) mafiosa. thank you, dear french nato forces. who helped to insure the institutionalization of ethnic cleansing in N mitrovica. as was then, and now. thank you, eulex forces...

as for serbia and fascism, that's a whole other story.

Xmas time is my favorite season, one of my favorite holidays. but this is no holy man.

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.

ciao!

roberto
chilly frisco

Sergei

pre 13 godina

What an insensitive insult! Granted the Nazis were some seriously evil M.F.’s, at least they were competent, and not just at killing. They did build that nice autobahn and the trains always ran on time when Il Duce was in charge - what have the Kalbenians accomplished outside of pimping and bodysnatching? The Holy Father clearly owes Adolph and the boys an apology!

Jugoslavjia

pre 13 godina

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
(The Truth Chicago, 6 January 2011 19:58

It was the Pharoah who killed the first born of Egypt through his own mouth as he ordered to kill all the first born jewish children.

'And so through the Pharoah Ramesis mouth he condemned the death of the first born of Egypt as Moses warned.'

So through your mouth you will also reap the rewards and punishments.

Xristos Se Rodi to all my friends!

je¿ trollowy

pre 13 godina

There are extremists in every religion, but 99.9% of Serbs are extremist.
(The Truth Chicago, 6 January 2011 19:58)

Chicago? I feel, it's a mistake. The weather in Sweden is indeed cold, luckily you have a nice SAAB made in your city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollhattan

Je¿ vuczitrnski

pre 13 godina

Ratko wrote: "Go home occupiers". I am already in my home, in Vushtrri, believe me Ratko!
(Ilyrian from Vushtrri, 6 January 2011 17:18)

We don't believe you - because there is not a single Illyrian in Vučitrn.

Denis

pre 13 godina

Geez, this guy seem so gloomy in that picture.

Papi (Amorfije), you need to take a chill pill and relax, cuz boy your clock hasn't moved forward a second since the time you were born, and that seems to be a long time ago.

Have some Rakia, or Slivovica to shake that bitterness off.

It is sad to listen to this relic bringing the WWII era mentality in today's environment. Just what we need. Someone really gave him the wrong job.

Peace Papi

The Truth Chicago

pre 13 godina

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Folks, does anybody care what this guy "Amfullofit" says? Personally I just laugh at him and so should you. Also, I speak only of fundamentalist Christians and not your regular Christian. There are extremists in every religion, but 99.9% of Serbs are extremist.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Why does a man who isn't even responsible for Kosovo get so much attention? And why is the most nonsensical thing he says adopted as a headline? Is B92 trying to attack the church?
(Wim Roffel, 6 January 2011 17:03) "

It helps the page-view numbers.

Jeff

pre 13 godina

All of other Kosovo inhabitants happen to be Albanian by a vast majority and Kosovo Independence is a reflection of their will.
(Ylber, 6 January 2011 14:41)

It is a reflection of the will of those who exterminated all the Serbs from the region, with help of their western "friends."

lids

pre 13 godina

Father Amfilohije was in a mist of one of the worst albanian slaughter of Serbians in KiM,and the pictures of him pulling dead people out of ditches is still around.He knows what he is talking about.We all felt his pain then and we shall not forget what evil did and does.

Je¿ mitropolitski

pre 13 godina

Religion of albanians is Albanism!
(Mirel from Albania, 6 January 2011 16:47)

But this is precisely what Metropolitan Amfilohije said - you just confirmed he is right. Faleminderit.

Wim Roffel

pre 13 godina

I am puzzled, but more about B92 than about the metropolitan. Why does a man who isn't even responsible for Kosovo get so much attention? And why is the most nonsensical thing he says adopted as a headline? Is B92 trying to attack the church?

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Very well said. A continuation of nazi-fascist occupation of our holy land. Go home occupiers.
(Ratko, 6 January 2011 15:28)


We are home, do you know where your home is???

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

Ratko wrote: "Go home occupiers". I am already in my home, in Vushtrri, believe me Ratko! What about the rest of Albo's commenting here, I hope they are not in Nish or Belgrade?

Mirel from Albania

pre 13 godina

As an albanian orthodox I am shocked by this idiotic statements of the SOC.Do they supposed to pray for the good of all people (albanian and serb) in Kosova?Furthermore,there are few hundreds albanian orthodox in Kosova.Does this priest cares about people or about borders and politics?
It just tells me that church is running everything in Serbia and Greece.In Greece prists even get paid from the gonverment.
Anyway in Albanis,thank God we are free from the prower of religion in politics.And we are going to be more free once Anastas passes the torch to an albanian in AOC,which is going to happened soon.
Religion of albanians is Albanism!

miri

pre 13 godina

Until the moment x comes,stay silent,never brag about it,just think about it the whole time and raise your kids in this spirit as I do mine...
America and the West are in demise,China and Russia are rising,our moment will come...
(CG, 6 January 2011 14:45)

Long live the everlasting friendship between brotherly peoples of Serbia and People's Republic of China.

Serbia-China,Two nations one family.

China and Serbia , two champions of Serbdom protection

Serbia and China, two tigers of the world!

Me Me Mua

pre 13 godina

“Fascist occupation of Kosovo continues”

Said Arkan's spiritual leader. It's true, he and Arkan were tight. And he compared Karadzic to the Jugovic brothers in Karadzic mother's funeral.

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

Mr.pop Arthemije: "...continuation of the Nazi-Fascist occupation from the WWII...". LOL, this man is completely out of space!

Ylber

pre 13 godina

"existential threats to the remaining Serbs and all of other Kosovo inhabitants."

All of other Kosovo inhabitants happen to be Albanian by a vast majority and Kosovo Independence is a reflection of their will. This guys comment is so ignorant and narrowminded I feel awful about having to dignify it with a response.

northampton

pre 13 godina

hear were go again,the homeless santa is calling the west nazi-fascist.will be nice to thanks us once upon at time for the money we donate to bankrupt serbia,it will also be nice if you stop knocking on our doors for EU.

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

"Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day".
Can you Mr Irinej tell me and all the B92 readers of where the worst atrocities and human tragedies since the WWII happened? I'll tell you, in Bosnia and Kosova. Who is the 19th most vicious dictator in human history and where is he from? I'll tell you, Slobodan Milosevic from Serbia.
Can you please stop ridiculing yourself and do your job you are paid to and do not mix the religion and politics. You might be a good religious person but you will make a very bad politician.

Mendo

pre 13 godina

I just hope that the majority of Serbs are not as narrow minded as this guy who's job is to pray for people and not spread hearted.

Marry Christmas to good orthodox people.

Rovena

pre 13 godina

Wasn't supposed a priest like him to pray for people, their unity and harmony?? Hahahahah, you guys are so fun! Do you really believe that a minister of God should talk about human and terrain borders? You're really getting ridiculous!

rolandi

pre 13 godina

Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day.

oki tough guy, talk none sense. mery christams to you and your serbian church

rolandi

pre 13 godina

this is the reasen serbia will never be able to keep kosovo, guys like you make harder for serbs to live in kosovo. insted u shuld speak about peace and stability in kosovo you talk some thing none sense. it seems just like milosevic on his good old days keep making remarks the make no sance, ther still be 2million albanians in kosovo

highduke

pre 13 godina

The Holy Grand Prince Saint Sava Nemanjic couln't have said it better. BRAVO Amfilohije! Albanian organ-stealing is just a step below Nazi Joseph Mengele's sick experiments. The German people at least feel shame but the Albanian public only laughs bc they are atheists who lack religious morals. Even BiH Muslims didn't go that low. Be ashamed

Top

pre 13 godina

He said that current situation in Kosovo "is actually the continuation of the Nazi-Fascist occupation from the WWII, and which is even more tragic, with longer-term consequences."

Another Nazi comparison. Hey, he should join up with King Thaci! These two guys would be a good team for spinning conspiracy theories about 'anti-yyy networks' :)

Jeff

pre 13 godina

All of other Kosovo inhabitants happen to be Albanian by a vast majority and Kosovo Independence is a reflection of their will.
(Ylber, 6 January 2011 14:41)

It is a reflection of the will of those who exterminated all the Serbs from the region, with help of their western "friends."

lids

pre 13 godina

Father Amfilohije was in a mist of one of the worst albanian slaughter of Serbians in KiM,and the pictures of him pulling dead people out of ditches is still around.He knows what he is talking about.We all felt his pain then and we shall not forget what evil did and does.

icj1

pre 13 godina

yet Serbia must give up a significant portion of its territory, because a politician Bill Clinton(who cant even keep his marriage vows, smoked dope - but didnt inhale) and his so sincere friend, Tony (whatever you say USA) Blair say its OK?
(NasEnglez, 7 January 2011 21:57)

I think you got it wrong... It was Serbia who told Albanians in Kosovo to leave in the Spring of 1999 and they did just that... left Serbia !

doursej palokaj

pre 13 godina

Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. (Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)
Dardanian´s never belong to serbia serbians from carpathian arrived in balkan in 700 B.C, so we welcome that .
But Regarding Dardania "Kosova" belong to albanians, 98% of them inhabited. we do not ask you what it was population of Kosovo is growing extreme Milosevic's regime has never shown the truth about total number of population that is expected to arrive 3 mill newer say never in politics

Top

pre 13 godina

He said that current situation in Kosovo "is actually the continuation of the Nazi-Fascist occupation from the WWII, and which is even more tragic, with longer-term consequences."

Another Nazi comparison. Hey, he should join up with King Thaci! These two guys would be a good team for spinning conspiracy theories about 'anti-yyy networks' :)

rolandi

pre 13 godina

this is the reasen serbia will never be able to keep kosovo, guys like you make harder for serbs to live in kosovo. insted u shuld speak about peace and stability in kosovo you talk some thing none sense. it seems just like milosevic on his good old days keep making remarks the make no sance, ther still be 2million albanians in kosovo

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

"Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day".
Can you Mr Irinej tell me and all the B92 readers of where the worst atrocities and human tragedies since the WWII happened? I'll tell you, in Bosnia and Kosova. Who is the 19th most vicious dictator in human history and where is he from? I'll tell you, Slobodan Milosevic from Serbia.
Can you please stop ridiculing yourself and do your job you are paid to and do not mix the religion and politics. You might be a good religious person but you will make a very bad politician.

Rovena

pre 13 godina

Wasn't supposed a priest like him to pray for people, their unity and harmony?? Hahahahah, you guys are so fun! Do you really believe that a minister of God should talk about human and terrain borders? You're really getting ridiculous!

Mendo

pre 13 godina

I just hope that the majority of Serbs are not as narrow minded as this guy who's job is to pray for people and not spread hearted.

Marry Christmas to good orthodox people.

highduke

pre 13 godina

The Holy Grand Prince Saint Sava Nemanjic couln't have said it better. BRAVO Amfilohije! Albanian organ-stealing is just a step below Nazi Joseph Mengele's sick experiments. The German people at least feel shame but the Albanian public only laughs bc they are atheists who lack religious morals. Even BiH Muslims didn't go that low. Be ashamed

Mirel from Albania

pre 13 godina

As an albanian orthodox I am shocked by this idiotic statements of the SOC.Do they supposed to pray for the good of all people (albanian and serb) in Kosova?Furthermore,there are few hundreds albanian orthodox in Kosova.Does this priest cares about people or about borders and politics?
It just tells me that church is running everything in Serbia and Greece.In Greece prists even get paid from the gonverment.
Anyway in Albanis,thank God we are free from the prower of religion in politics.And we are going to be more free once Anastas passes the torch to an albanian in AOC,which is going to happened soon.
Religion of albanians is Albanism!

Ylber

pre 13 godina

"existential threats to the remaining Serbs and all of other Kosovo inhabitants."

All of other Kosovo inhabitants happen to be Albanian by a vast majority and Kosovo Independence is a reflection of their will. This guys comment is so ignorant and narrowminded I feel awful about having to dignify it with a response.

The Truth Chicago

pre 13 godina

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Folks, does anybody care what this guy "Amfullofit" says? Personally I just laugh at him and so should you. Also, I speak only of fundamentalist Christians and not your regular Christian. There are extremists in every religion, but 99.9% of Serbs are extremist.

northampton

pre 13 godina

hear were go again,the homeless santa is calling the west nazi-fascist.will be nice to thanks us once upon at time for the money we donate to bankrupt serbia,it will also be nice if you stop knocking on our doors for EU.

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

Mr.pop Arthemije: "...continuation of the Nazi-Fascist occupation from the WWII...". LOL, this man is completely out of space!

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Very well said. A continuation of nazi-fascist occupation of our holy land. Go home occupiers.
(Ratko, 6 January 2011 15:28)


We are home, do you know where your home is???

Me Me Mua

pre 13 godina

“Fascist occupation of Kosovo continues”

Said Arkan's spiritual leader. It's true, he and Arkan were tight. And he compared Karadzic to the Jugovic brothers in Karadzic mother's funeral.

rolandi

pre 13 godina

Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day.

oki tough guy, talk none sense. mery christams to you and your serbian church

miri

pre 13 godina

Until the moment x comes,stay silent,never brag about it,just think about it the whole time and raise your kids in this spirit as I do mine...
America and the West are in demise,China and Russia are rising,our moment will come...
(CG, 6 January 2011 14:45)

Long live the everlasting friendship between brotherly peoples of Serbia and People's Republic of China.

Serbia-China,Two nations one family.

China and Serbia , two champions of Serbdom protection

Serbia and China, two tigers of the world!

Je¿ mitropolitski

pre 13 godina

Religion of albanians is Albanism!
(Mirel from Albania, 6 January 2011 16:47)

But this is precisely what Metropolitan Amfilohije said - you just confirmed he is right. Faleminderit.

Overlord

pre 13 godina

Peggy, you are the one wanting K-Albanians reintegrated into Serbia although you obviously have no love lost for them... 7 million Serbs (of whom only 83% are ethnic Serbs) meeting 2 million K-Albanians in one common state would make a ratio of 1 to 3,5. Would be interesting...For sure you,who are so much in favor of minority rights, would cheer for a K-Albanian president of Serbia, wouldn't you?

Overlord

pre 13 godina

"The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now."
The world according to Peggy... History has to be rewritten!

Je¿ vuczitrnski

pre 13 godina

Ratko wrote: "Go home occupiers". I am already in my home, in Vushtrri, believe me Ratko!
(Ilyrian from Vushtrri, 6 January 2011 17:18)

We don't believe you - because there is not a single Illyrian in Vučitrn.

roberto

pre 13 godina

Excuse me, mr., we got rid of fascism in Kosova in june, 1999.except for the upper north of mitrovica, which continues to be ruled by mup agents and multi- ethnic :)) mafiosa. thank you, dear french nato forces. who helped to insure the institutionalization of ethnic cleansing in N mitrovica. as was then, and now. thank you, eulex forces...

as for serbia and fascism, that's a whole other story.

Xmas time is my favorite season, one of my favorite holidays. but this is no holy man.

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.

ciao!

roberto
chilly frisco

Jugoslavjia

pre 13 godina

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
(The Truth Chicago, 6 January 2011 19:58

It was the Pharoah who killed the first born of Egypt through his own mouth as he ordered to kill all the first born jewish children.

'And so through the Pharoah Ramesis mouth he condemned the death of the first born of Egypt as Moses warned.'

So through your mouth you will also reap the rewards and punishments.

Xristos Se Rodi to all my friends!

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

Ratko wrote: "Go home occupiers". I am already in my home, in Vushtrri, believe me Ratko! What about the rest of Albo's commenting here, I hope they are not in Nish or Belgrade?

Nexh

pre 13 godina

I think it would've been better if pope tries to unite people and not bring more hate. This is not helping anyone!
Church or mosque should not get involved in politics.

Wim Roffel

pre 13 godina

I am puzzled, but more about B92 than about the metropolitan. Why does a man who isn't even responsible for Kosovo get so much attention? And why is the most nonsensical thing he says adopted as a headline? Is B92 trying to attack the church?

je¿ trollowy

pre 13 godina

There are extremists in every religion, but 99.9% of Serbs are extremist.
(The Truth Chicago, 6 January 2011 19:58)

Chicago? I feel, it's a mistake. The weather in Sweden is indeed cold, luckily you have a nice SAAB made in your city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollhattan

Jugolslavija

pre 13 godina

Excuse me, mr., we got rid of fascism in Kosova in june, 1999.

as for serbia and fascism, that's a whole other story.

roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)

You are going to tell us the story about fascism in Serbia?

You must be joking, you can't even put two sentences together without contradicting yourself at the same time.

The hatred against the SPC (Serbian Orthodox Church) and the entire Orthodox Church is growing because it is the root of the Christian faith.

That hatred against the church was manifested under Nazism.

Bishop Nikolai Velimirovic was jailed in Dachau by the Nazi regime in 1941, one of the great Serbian spritual leaders and many of his letters are in the Ochrid Monastery in what is now called FYROM.

Patrichiate Gavrilo of Yugoslavia was also jailed in Dacau after the invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, he did not make it out alive.

The burning of Orthodox chuches and the desecration of gravesites is an ominous sign of the Nazi regime re-lived again the holy land of Kosovo and Metohia.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

Bravo Amfilohije,I am so proud since myself I am a Montenegrin like you!

Well, Whoop-dee-doo!

A holy man that claims that he "knows Christ" would not have divisive thoughts or utter words that separate and divide His flock--Never!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)


The hypocritical statements and contradictions are coming from your post, nothing else.

If you Montenegrin, than you disagree on the initative to create an autocephalus Montenegrin Orthodox Church, similar to the FYROM authocephalus Orthodox Church not recognized by the Patrichiate of Constantinopoli. This only serves to further disintigrate and divide the Orthodox believers.

The reason you hate the Holy Father Amfilohije is that he continues to support the SPC in Montenegro while others want to destroy it.

Denis

pre 13 godina

Geez, this guy seem so gloomy in that picture.

Papi (Amorfije), you need to take a chill pill and relax, cuz boy your clock hasn't moved forward a second since the time you were born, and that seems to be a long time ago.

Have some Rakia, or Slivovica to shake that bitterness off.

It is sad to listen to this relic bringing the WWII era mentality in today's environment. Just what we need. Someone really gave him the wrong job.

Peace Papi

Peggy

pre 13 godina

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.
roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)
=========================

Why am I not convinced that you are genuine?
Oh yes, your post are all filled with hate towards the Serbs and now you are sending good wishes to them?

How false can you be Roberto? I would respect you more if you were honest about your feeling towards the Serbs all the time.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''The German people at least feel shame but the Albanian public only laughs bc they are atheists who lack religious morals.''

LoL ''atheists who lack religious morals'' ...

Je¿ boloñski

pre 13 godina

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.
roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)

That wish would sound more honest if who celebrate today would get the explanation what your famous "baloney" was about. Otherwise that wish sounds pretty much a baloney, too.

That "baloney" will be mentioned once in a while. Till you prove to be a man with a backbone.

Logic

pre 13 godina

Ylber wrote: "I feel awful having to dignify it with response".
Hmmm... A few days ago dear Tachi was pretty generous in applying expressions "Nazi", "fascist propaganda" "Goebbels" to a prominent citizen of Switzerland. Albanian camp was applauding that speech.Not a word of disagreement even. Nobody remembered then that this WAS an insult to the West which IS feeding the youngest, proud Europeans for so many years already.In contrary, more insults, more stones were thrown at the very country that is giving food and home to significant numbers of that "dignified" camp. Anybody felt awful about Tachi's blabbering?

Luke Buyenovich

pre 13 godina

HIS HOLINESS METROPOLITAN AMFILOHIJE spoke the truth.Ever since NATO entered province of KOSMET 10.5 years ago on numerous occasion Kosovo Albanians attacked SPC property, burnt Churches and desecrated graves.Additionally,killed and evicted from their home number of Serbs,even bombed school bus and killing Serbian children.Killing Serbs,extracting and selling their organs is a new low for EU and the West.(Occupying forces may not have directly participated, negligent factor is there and ICJ must deal with it). In view of all of this how else one can can characterized Western presence in KOSMET?HIS Holiness is man of cloth and God. Forgiveness and good will is in His soul and heart.However,
one existence must be protected in order to deliver God's given goods to mankind.
We all must speak up when we see threatenig evil.Creation of terrorist Kosovo Albanian state is a evil, which must be stopped.Many Serbs including this one, are deeply offended by conduct of Kosovo occupying forces.The quote of one of the greatest Serb ever lived is appropriate here."GNJEV PRAVEDNI ORUZJE JE PRAVDE"

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Why does a man who isn't even responsible for Kosovo get so much attention? And why is the most nonsensical thing he says adopted as a headline? Is B92 trying to attack the church?
(Wim Roffel, 6 January 2011 17:03) "

It helps the page-view numbers.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Nearly ever single comment on this is by Albanians trying to insult this man of the church.
That says more about the Albanians than about the man.

Je¿ nie albañski

pre 13 godina

They speak Shqip, a language whitch descends form the Ancient Illyrians.
(Skifteri, 7 January 2011 06:35)

As much proof as that we speak a language which is related to the ancient Sumerian.
The re-unification of Iraq and Hungary is not imminent.

http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/Suwordorder.html
http://www.szabir.com/blog/hungarian-sumerian-and-egyptian-hebrew

(and so on).

N.B.: while Hungarian-Sumerian connection is much better proven than Albanian-Illyrian, it is NOT official and remains just a speculation. "Ancient Illyrians" is a nationalist phantasy.

Aussie Of Sydney

pre 13 godina

Last time i ckecked there is like 50 000 Serbs and 2 Million Albanians in Kosovo.. hmm in Australian there is like 500 000 Aboriginals and 22 million non Abos.. According to the serb logic the Abos should be running the joint...

let it go boys... concentrate on Bosnia.. Yeah Kosovo was a part of Serbia once but not anymore... there are 2 millions Albanians living there who dont want to live under Serbia right or wrong...

Besides we are all people... it doesnt matter who was there first, what matters is the Majority of Kosovo is Albanian and we should respect the Albanians rights..

Lets Take Vojvodina for an example.. it has a Hungarian Population of 200 000 and a Serb Majority... would you precious serbs like it if Hungary Annexed Vojvodina? same logic applies right...

Sergei

pre 13 godina

What an insensitive insult! Granted the Nazis were some seriously evil M.F.’s, at least they were competent, and not just at killing. They did build that nice autobahn and the trains always ran on time when Il Duce was in charge - what have the Kalbenians accomplished outside of pimping and bodysnatching? The Holy Father clearly owes Adolph and the boys an apology!

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

It's so shame holding a cross in one hand and other talking hate... do you really know the meaning of the person who hold the cross and preach to humanity JESUS sacrifice himself for PEACE not for HATE but people like you are no different from those radicals from other religion's ..its to feel sorry how religion's are becoming a corruption tool..

sj

pre 13 godina

(Aussie Of Sydney, 7 January 2011 03:00)

Well Aussie, how would you like it if, say the Lebanese, immigrated in their hundreds of thousands to Australia and then all of a sudden annexed Tasmania and declaring it independent? To add more to the story say the Anglo Saxon Australians had their most revered historical buildings etc now what do you think the average Aussie would say? Remember the Cronulla riots.
I know a large number of Aussies and their answer would be “they can go to hell if they want but they are not taking our land”.
You get the message now!

Liria

pre 13 godina

Yesterday there was also a person dressed as this one claiming to be Orthodox priest.

It seems both these men are on medecine and have lost the reality.

Only with Love all things are possible!!!

pre 13 godina

Bravo Amfilohije,I am so proud since myself I am a Montenegrin like you!

Well, Whoop-dee-doo!

It is appropriate to call it as it is,but also to remember:

We Montenegrens recognized Kosovo in our own language.

Should we remember everything, just some things, or try to forget everything and move on like brothers and sisters that we truly all are?
A holy man that claims that he "knows Christ" would not have divisive thoughts or utter words that separate and divide His flock--Never!
Maybe its a good idea in the future to get someone from Sveta Gora that "saw" the Light, to lead the church and let the religious generals, historians and tradition philosophers retire. If not, then you will go down the road like the Catholic Church--you will lose the young generations that see the contradictions
and the hypocrisy. And then you are going to blame the "others", other forces, and create more division amongst the people.
Those that deviate from Truth and Love can land in the company of Croat Catholics and radical Islamists--
real quick--if they don't wake up to God!
Those that teach the essence of Christ which is forgiveness and love one another, are beyond criticism.
We are all forgiven.Remember? Your job is to spread that good news and not play politics with God's children and continue to divide them.

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!

pss

pre 13 godina

His ramblings and demeaner remind me of a famous religious leader from the US, Rev Jimmy Jones. My advice to his followers, if there is any gatherings--DO NOT drink the KOOL AID.

Skifteri

pre 13 godina

We don't believe you - because there is not a single Illyrian in Vučitrn.
(Je¿ vuczitrnski, 6 January 2011 20:21)

They speak Shqip, a language whitch descends form the Ancient Illyrians.

Dardania-Albania unification is imminent. Or maybe we will wait for a couple of decades similarly the East and West German unification :)

NasEnglez

pre 13 godina

At this time of year let us remember the doxology, "Peace on Earth, and Goodwill to men".

In relation to the Holy Fathers statement, I must agree, there is a continuation of the Facist ideals of the 20's and 30's, continuing in the KiM. KLA or IMRO, whats the difference?Ultimately they both utilised brigandage as a political tool to acheive their aims. Political killing= the weak by the willing. I accept that great wrongs were done by and to many people during the break up of Yugoslavia, however before everyone runs to attack the Serbs, if events in Kosovo and Sebrenica are always to be shouted about, why not events in Jasenovac and kragujevac? I come from the UK and have seen the damage done to my country by mass immigration. And if Canterbury Cathedral was suddenly in another country i.e Kentistan, you can bet your boots I would be upset. And, if the same "allies", who I had fought with against facism then bombed my country to get me to accept that I must give over my cultural and religious centre because the majority demanded it, then you can bet your boots I would not like it much. The hipocrisy of the western politicians begs belief. The USA had a civil war about succession. And the result was its not allowed. And I doubt very much if the UK would accept the Islamic Republic of Birminghamistan, yet Serbia must give up a significant portion of its territory, because a politician Bill Clinton(who cant even keep his marriage vows, smoked dope - but didnt inhale) and his so sincere friend, Tony (whatever you say USA) Blair say its OK? Then yes Facisim and the rule of right is might is continuing in KiM.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Lets Take Vojvodina for an example.. it has a Hungarian Population of 200 000 and a Serb Majority... would you precious serbs like it if Hungary Annexed Vojvodina? same logic applies right...
(Aussie Of Sydney, 7 January 2011 03:00)
=========================

Listen Albanian of Sydney, stop comparing apples and oranges.
Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. You cannot say the same for Vojvodina.

The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now.
You obviously cannot be trusted to respect the country in which you live unless it is ruled by your own.
That really says a lot about the sort of people you are. This is your shame and you should not be proclaiming so proudly how you managed to cheat Serbs out of their land.

The Flying Dutch

pre 13 godina

"No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality..."

"We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians..."
(CG, 7 January 2011 00:17)

I hope you are being sarcastic, right? A country which incited 4 devestating wars which caused so much pain and suffering; a country which is responsible for the death of hundred of thousands of people. You cal this "pacifist mentality"? If you want to be taken serious, than don't make such outragous comments, oké?

Zoti

pre 13 godina

Well Aussie, how would you like it if, say the Lebanese, immigrated in their hundreds of thousands to Australia and then all of a sudden annexed Tasmania and declaring it independent? To add more to the story say the Anglo Saxon Australians had their most revered historical buildings etc now what do you think the average Aussie would say? Remember the Cronulla riots.
I know a large number of Aussies and their answer would be “they can go to hell if they want but they are not taking our land”.
You get the message now!
(sj, 7 January 2011)

And how do you think did the Aussies get Tasmania from the Aboriginals, and not just Tasmania but the whole continent?

If the Lebanese become 90% of the population Tasmania, they'll do the same think the Brits did to the Aboriginals.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now."
The world according to Peggy... History has to be rewritten!
(Overlord, 7 January 2011 12:15)
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You are the ones trying to rewrite history. I am only trying to preserve it.

icj1

pre 13 godina

Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. (Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)

Let's assume you are right.... but Kosovo's territory was created together with the whole Earth 5 billion years ago (of course according to science and not Mr. Radovica's God).

So Kosovo has been Serbian for only 0.000014% of its history. And that's a totally insignificant portion of the Kosovo's history.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

So Kosovo has been Serbian for only 0.000014% of its history. And that's a totally insignificant portion of the Kosovo's history.
(icj1, 8 January 2011 05:36)
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Are you for real?

Now, come back when you can point to some time in history when Kosovo actually belonged to Albanians. Show me some proof, anything.

peggy

pre 13 godina

If we had not won the war (with a little help from our friends) it would have been illegal and all those guys whose portraits now adorn our currency would have been hanged as traitors. Moral: God and law are on the side of the bigger guns.
(Amer, 8 January 2011 04:33)
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Stop speaking as an American when we all know that you are Albanian. You had NOTHING to do with winning any war.

You got one thing right though. The law is on the side of the bigger guns but that is only temporary. Nobody has the biggest guns forever.

Anti Taliban Murijash

pre 13 godina

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)

The most stupid post in a long time...
They attack you,snatch your land away ,chase your people out of their homes and you would "forgive them" like Christ did ...
No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality...
If your definition of Christianity is pacifisim,cowardice and not standing up to your enemies ,than no,than I am not a Christian ...
In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 January 2011 00:17)


In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 Januar

Yes. Your "priests" chose to roost with the chickens instead of soaring high above the world within the infinite Mind of God, and if you follow them you too will roost with the chickens, as you are now. But there is hope. You can make another choice--now. Even after 2,000 years it is not too late to accept right thinking.

icj1

pre 13 godina

The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now.
(Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)

How many Albanians did Serbs allow to settle in Kosovo after WWII ? And where did those Albanians come from ?

Zoti

pre 13 godina

What does Kosovo have to be a sustainable country? Nothing, oh, expect 2 million mouths to feed and who do you think will have to take on that burden? Germany, Austria, Hungary? No it’s going to be Serbia again.
By the way being 90% in an area of a country does not mean immigrants can take it away from a State. You might want to go back to the ICJ and ask it to declare you independent – good luck in trying that one.
(sj, 8 January 2011)

We'll leave the ICJ to you guys since you never get enough eggs in your face.
And Albanian are not immigrants in Kosova but indigenous population. The immigrants are the Serbs and there is a very well documented of your migration from the Russian steppes to the Balkans in the VII century.


P.S. Thanks B92 for keeping this story at the top and getting rid of the Qatar recognition.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

There is no egg on our face as it was a rigged decision by the US.
(sj, 8 January 2011)

By now you have a giant omelette frying in your face so you don't notice the additional eggs served to you.
I'm not gonna bother responding to the rest of your post since B92 already truncated half of my previous comment.
Seems like even Serb journalists cannot handle the bitter truth about Kosova.

So long.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"The USA had a civil war about succession. And the result was its not allowed.

(NasEnglez, 7 January 2011 21:57) "

We had an earlier war - the Revolutionary War - and seceded from Britain. That time I guess it was allowed.

If we had not won the war (with a little help from our friends) it would have been illegal and all those guys whose portraits now adorn our currency would have been hanged as traitors. Moral: God and law are on the side of the bigger guns.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Stop speaking as an American when we all know that you are Albanian. You had NOTHING to do with winning any war.

You got one thing right though. The law is on the side of the bigger guns but that is only temporary. Nobody has the biggest guns forever.
(peggy, 8 January 2011 14:57) "

"We all know" in this case = "Peggy thinks (for some strange reason)"

Granted, I had nothing to do with winning the Revolutionary War, but one of my great-greats did (he was a privateer, sort of like a sea-going hajduk with a license, from George Washington).

sj

pre 13 godina

And how do you think did the Aussies get Tasmania from the Aboriginals, and not just Tasmania but the whole continent?

If the Lebanese become 90% of the population Tasmania, they'll do the same think the Brits did to the Aboriginals.
(Zoti, 7 January 2011 21:26)

The big difference is that Tasmania is a self-sustaining island with plenty of natural resources i.e minerals, timber and water. It has more than enough energy and it has a vast amount of very good arable land – in fact it has some of the best in Australia, second only to the Liverpool Plain in New South Wales. It also has plenty of sea produce which is in high demand throughout Asia because it’s produced in clean non-polluted waters.
What does Kosovo have to be a sustainable country? Nothing, oh, expect 2 million mouths to feed and who do you think will have to take on that burden? Germany, Austria, Hungary? No it’s going to be Serbia again.
By the way being 90% in an area of a country does not mean immigrants can take it away from a State. You might want to go back to the ICJ and ask it to declare you independent – good luck in trying that one.
Perhaps you might

CG

pre 13 godina

" Blessed are the peace makers"
Hristos se Rodi!!!
(messenger, 7 January 2011 18:55)

You cannot make peace with someone who is trying to exterminate you!

Vaistina se rodi!

sj

pre 13 godina

(Zoti, 8 January 2011 19:49)

There is no egg on our face as it was a rigged decision by the US. However, I suggest that you guys go back to the ICJ and demand that it issue a statement that Kosovo is independent. The ICJ only said that the act was not illegal, but never said that Kosovo is independent – I would have thought that being one of the most incarcerated groups on this planet you guys would be able to tell the difference in legal interpretations. But maybe not, perhaps being ignorant is another one of your strengths.
Yes I have read that the Albanians claim to have lived in the Kosovo since the days of Atlantis, but unfortunately they were not in those numbers. This only occurred since WW2 when that bastard Tito decided to give your fathers asylum and allowed them to settle in Kosovo in large numbers.
Considering your people have been in Kosovo since the dawn of time, why is there no archeological evidence to support that theory? There is not even a cave painting that can be attributed to the Albanians.
Serbs arrived in the 6 Century in large numbers, but we left a big impression in Kosovo with our buildings and Churches – once again where are yours to be found???????

CG

pre 13 godina

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)

The most stupid post in a long time...
They attack you,snatch your land away ,chase your people out of their homes and you would "forgive them" like Christ did ...
No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality...
If your definition of Christianity is pacifisim,cowardice and not standing up to your enemies ,than no,than I am not a Christian ...
In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...

messenger

pre 13 godina

In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 Januar

" Blessed are the peace makers"
Hristos se Rodi!!!

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Look who is talking.... is he talking to himself? Serbia has a lot to learn. A healthy reflection on it's past would bea first step ....

highduke

pre 13 godina

The Holy Grand Prince Saint Sava Nemanjic couln't have said it better. BRAVO Amfilohije! Albanian organ-stealing is just a step below Nazi Joseph Mengele's sick experiments. The German people at least feel shame but the Albanian public only laughs bc they are atheists who lack religious morals. Even BiH Muslims didn't go that low. Be ashamed

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

"Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day".
Can you Mr Irinej tell me and all the B92 readers of where the worst atrocities and human tragedies since the WWII happened? I'll tell you, in Bosnia and Kosova. Who is the 19th most vicious dictator in human history and where is he from? I'll tell you, Slobodan Milosevic from Serbia.
Can you please stop ridiculing yourself and do your job you are paid to and do not mix the religion and politics. You might be a good religious person but you will make a very bad politician.

rolandi

pre 13 godina

this is the reasen serbia will never be able to keep kosovo, guys like you make harder for serbs to live in kosovo. insted u shuld speak about peace and stability in kosovo you talk some thing none sense. it seems just like milosevic on his good old days keep making remarks the make no sance, ther still be 2million albanians in kosovo

Top

pre 13 godina

He said that current situation in Kosovo "is actually the continuation of the Nazi-Fascist occupation from the WWII, and which is even more tragic, with longer-term consequences."

Another Nazi comparison. Hey, he should join up with King Thaci! These two guys would be a good team for spinning conspiracy theories about 'anti-yyy networks' :)

Rovena

pre 13 godina

Wasn't supposed a priest like him to pray for people, their unity and harmony?? Hahahahah, you guys are so fun! Do you really believe that a minister of God should talk about human and terrain borders? You're really getting ridiculous!

northampton

pre 13 godina

hear were go again,the homeless santa is calling the west nazi-fascist.will be nice to thanks us once upon at time for the money we donate to bankrupt serbia,it will also be nice if you stop knocking on our doors for EU.

roberto

pre 13 godina

Excuse me, mr., we got rid of fascism in Kosova in june, 1999.except for the upper north of mitrovica, which continues to be ruled by mup agents and multi- ethnic :)) mafiosa. thank you, dear french nato forces. who helped to insure the institutionalization of ethnic cleansing in N mitrovica. as was then, and now. thank you, eulex forces...

as for serbia and fascism, that's a whole other story.

Xmas time is my favorite season, one of my favorite holidays. but this is no holy man.

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.

ciao!

roberto
chilly frisco

The Truth Chicago

pre 13 godina

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Folks, does anybody care what this guy "Amfullofit" says? Personally I just laugh at him and so should you. Also, I speak only of fundamentalist Christians and not your regular Christian. There are extremists in every religion, but 99.9% of Serbs are extremist.

rolandi

pre 13 godina

Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro and the Littoral has stated that fascist occupation of the southern Serbian province continues to this day.

oki tough guy, talk none sense. mery christams to you and your serbian church

Jeff

pre 13 godina

All of other Kosovo inhabitants happen to be Albanian by a vast majority and Kosovo Independence is a reflection of their will.
(Ylber, 6 January 2011 14:41)

It is a reflection of the will of those who exterminated all the Serbs from the region, with help of their western "friends."

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Lets Take Vojvodina for an example.. it has a Hungarian Population of 200 000 and a Serb Majority... would you precious serbs like it if Hungary Annexed Vojvodina? same logic applies right...
(Aussie Of Sydney, 7 January 2011 03:00)
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Listen Albanian of Sydney, stop comparing apples and oranges.
Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. You cannot say the same for Vojvodina.

The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now.
You obviously cannot be trusted to respect the country in which you live unless it is ruled by your own.
That really says a lot about the sort of people you are. This is your shame and you should not be proclaiming so proudly how you managed to cheat Serbs out of their land.

Ylber

pre 13 godina

"existential threats to the remaining Serbs and all of other Kosovo inhabitants."

All of other Kosovo inhabitants happen to be Albanian by a vast majority and Kosovo Independence is a reflection of their will. This guys comment is so ignorant and narrowminded I feel awful about having to dignify it with a response.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.
roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)
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Why am I not convinced that you are genuine?
Oh yes, your post are all filled with hate towards the Serbs and now you are sending good wishes to them?

How false can you be Roberto? I would respect you more if you were honest about your feeling towards the Serbs all the time.

lids

pre 13 godina

Father Amfilohije was in a mist of one of the worst albanian slaughter of Serbians in KiM,and the pictures of him pulling dead people out of ditches is still around.He knows what he is talking about.We all felt his pain then and we shall not forget what evil did and does.

Wim Roffel

pre 13 godina

I am puzzled, but more about B92 than about the metropolitan. Why does a man who isn't even responsible for Kosovo get so much attention? And why is the most nonsensical thing he says adopted as a headline? Is B92 trying to attack the church?

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

Mr.pop Arthemije: "...continuation of the Nazi-Fascist occupation from the WWII...". LOL, this man is completely out of space!

Mirel from Albania

pre 13 godina

As an albanian orthodox I am shocked by this idiotic statements of the SOC.Do they supposed to pray for the good of all people (albanian and serb) in Kosova?Furthermore,there are few hundreds albanian orthodox in Kosova.Does this priest cares about people or about borders and politics?
It just tells me that church is running everything in Serbia and Greece.In Greece prists even get paid from the gonverment.
Anyway in Albanis,thank God we are free from the prower of religion in politics.And we are going to be more free once Anastas passes the torch to an albanian in AOC,which is going to happened soon.
Religion of albanians is Albanism!

Je¿ mitropolitski

pre 13 godina

Religion of albanians is Albanism!
(Mirel from Albania, 6 January 2011 16:47)

But this is precisely what Metropolitan Amfilohije said - you just confirmed he is right. Faleminderit.

Je¿ vuczitrnski

pre 13 godina

Ratko wrote: "Go home occupiers". I am already in my home, in Vushtrri, believe me Ratko!
(Ilyrian from Vushtrri, 6 January 2011 17:18)

We don't believe you - because there is not a single Illyrian in Vučitrn.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Nearly ever single comment on this is by Albanians trying to insult this man of the church.
That says more about the Albanians than about the man.

Aussie Of Sydney

pre 13 godina

Last time i ckecked there is like 50 000 Serbs and 2 Million Albanians in Kosovo.. hmm in Australian there is like 500 000 Aboriginals and 22 million non Abos.. According to the serb logic the Abos should be running the joint...

let it go boys... concentrate on Bosnia.. Yeah Kosovo was a part of Serbia once but not anymore... there are 2 millions Albanians living there who dont want to live under Serbia right or wrong...

Besides we are all people... it doesnt matter who was there first, what matters is the Majority of Kosovo is Albanian and we should respect the Albanians rights..

Lets Take Vojvodina for an example.. it has a Hungarian Population of 200 000 and a Serb Majority... would you precious serbs like it if Hungary Annexed Vojvodina? same logic applies right...

Mendo

pre 13 godina

I just hope that the majority of Serbs are not as narrow minded as this guy who's job is to pray for people and not spread hearted.

Marry Christmas to good orthodox people.

miri

pre 13 godina

Until the moment x comes,stay silent,never brag about it,just think about it the whole time and raise your kids in this spirit as I do mine...
America and the West are in demise,China and Russia are rising,our moment will come...
(CG, 6 January 2011 14:45)

Long live the everlasting friendship between brotherly peoples of Serbia and People's Republic of China.

Serbia-China,Two nations one family.

China and Serbia , two champions of Serbdom protection

Serbia and China, two tigers of the world!

sj

pre 13 godina

(Aussie Of Sydney, 7 January 2011 03:00)

Well Aussie, how would you like it if, say the Lebanese, immigrated in their hundreds of thousands to Australia and then all of a sudden annexed Tasmania and declaring it independent? To add more to the story say the Anglo Saxon Australians had their most revered historical buildings etc now what do you think the average Aussie would say? Remember the Cronulla riots.
I know a large number of Aussies and their answer would be “they can go to hell if they want but they are not taking our land”.
You get the message now!

Me Me Mua

pre 13 godina

“Fascist occupation of Kosovo continues”

Said Arkan's spiritual leader. It's true, he and Arkan were tight. And he compared Karadzic to the Jugovic brothers in Karadzic mother's funeral.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 13 godina

Very well said. A continuation of nazi-fascist occupation of our holy land. Go home occupiers.
(Ratko, 6 January 2011 15:28)


We are home, do you know where your home is???

je¿ trollowy

pre 13 godina

There are extremists in every religion, but 99.9% of Serbs are extremist.
(The Truth Chicago, 6 January 2011 19:58)

Chicago? I feel, it's a mistake. The weather in Sweden is indeed cold, luckily you have a nice SAAB made in your city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollhattan

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

Ratko wrote: "Go home occupiers". I am already in my home, in Vushtrri, believe me Ratko! What about the rest of Albo's commenting here, I hope they are not in Nish or Belgrade?

Denis

pre 13 godina

Geez, this guy seem so gloomy in that picture.

Papi (Amorfije), you need to take a chill pill and relax, cuz boy your clock hasn't moved forward a second since the time you were born, and that seems to be a long time ago.

Have some Rakia, or Slivovica to shake that bitterness off.

It is sad to listen to this relic bringing the WWII era mentality in today's environment. Just what we need. Someone really gave him the wrong job.

Peace Papi

Sergei

pre 13 godina

What an insensitive insult! Granted the Nazis were some seriously evil M.F.’s, at least they were competent, and not just at killing. They did build that nice autobahn and the trains always ran on time when Il Duce was in charge - what have the Kalbenians accomplished outside of pimping and bodysnatching? The Holy Father clearly owes Adolph and the boys an apology!

Jugoslavjia

pre 13 godina

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
(The Truth Chicago, 6 January 2011 19:58

It was the Pharoah who killed the first born of Egypt through his own mouth as he ordered to kill all the first born jewish children.

'And so through the Pharoah Ramesis mouth he condemned the death of the first born of Egypt as Moses warned.'

So through your mouth you will also reap the rewards and punishments.

Xristos Se Rodi to all my friends!

Je¿ nie albañski

pre 13 godina

They speak Shqip, a language whitch descends form the Ancient Illyrians.
(Skifteri, 7 January 2011 06:35)

As much proof as that we speak a language which is related to the ancient Sumerian.
The re-unification of Iraq and Hungary is not imminent.

http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/Suwordorder.html
http://www.szabir.com/blog/hungarian-sumerian-and-egyptian-hebrew

(and so on).

N.B.: while Hungarian-Sumerian connection is much better proven than Albanian-Illyrian, it is NOT official and remains just a speculation. "Ancient Illyrians" is a nationalist phantasy.

Skifteri

pre 13 godina

We don't believe you - because there is not a single Illyrian in Vučitrn.
(Je¿ vuczitrnski, 6 January 2011 20:21)

They speak Shqip, a language whitch descends form the Ancient Illyrians.

Dardania-Albania unification is imminent. Or maybe we will wait for a couple of decades similarly the East and West German unification :)

CG

pre 13 godina

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)

The most stupid post in a long time...
They attack you,snatch your land away ,chase your people out of their homes and you would "forgive them" like Christ did ...
No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality...
If your definition of Christianity is pacifisim,cowardice and not standing up to your enemies ,than no,than I am not a Christian ...
In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...

Liria

pre 13 godina

Yesterday there was also a person dressed as this one claiming to be Orthodox priest.

It seems both these men are on medecine and have lost the reality.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now."
The world according to Peggy... History has to be rewritten!
(Overlord, 7 January 2011 12:15)
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You are the ones trying to rewrite history. I am only trying to preserve it.

Overlord

pre 13 godina

Peggy, you are the one wanting K-Albanians reintegrated into Serbia although you obviously have no love lost for them... 7 million Serbs (of whom only 83% are ethnic Serbs) meeting 2 million K-Albanians in one common state would make a ratio of 1 to 3,5. Would be interesting...For sure you,who are so much in favor of minority rights, would cheer for a K-Albanian president of Serbia, wouldn't you?

pss

pre 13 godina

His ramblings and demeaner remind me of a famous religious leader from the US, Rev Jimmy Jones. My advice to his followers, if there is any gatherings--DO NOT drink the KOOL AID.

Overlord

pre 13 godina

"The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now."
The world according to Peggy... History has to be rewritten!

Luke Buyenovich

pre 13 godina

HIS HOLINESS METROPOLITAN AMFILOHIJE spoke the truth.Ever since NATO entered province of KOSMET 10.5 years ago on numerous occasion Kosovo Albanians attacked SPC property, burnt Churches and desecrated graves.Additionally,killed and evicted from their home number of Serbs,even bombed school bus and killing Serbian children.Killing Serbs,extracting and selling their organs is a new low for EU and the West.(Occupying forces may not have directly participated, negligent factor is there and ICJ must deal with it). In view of all of this how else one can can characterized Western presence in KOSMET?HIS Holiness is man of cloth and God. Forgiveness and good will is in His soul and heart.However,
one existence must be protected in order to deliver God's given goods to mankind.
We all must speak up when we see threatenig evil.Creation of terrorist Kosovo Albanian state is a evil, which must be stopped.Many Serbs including this one, are deeply offended by conduct of Kosovo occupying forces.The quote of one of the greatest Serb ever lived is appropriate here."GNJEV PRAVEDNI ORUZJE JE PRAVDE"

Jugolslavija

pre 13 godina

Excuse me, mr., we got rid of fascism in Kosova in june, 1999.

as for serbia and fascism, that's a whole other story.

roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)

You are going to tell us the story about fascism in Serbia?

You must be joking, you can't even put two sentences together without contradicting yourself at the same time.

The hatred against the SPC (Serbian Orthodox Church) and the entire Orthodox Church is growing because it is the root of the Christian faith.

That hatred against the church was manifested under Nazism.

Bishop Nikolai Velimirovic was jailed in Dachau by the Nazi regime in 1941, one of the great Serbian spritual leaders and many of his letters are in the Ochrid Monastery in what is now called FYROM.

Patrichiate Gavrilo of Yugoslavia was also jailed in Dacau after the invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, he did not make it out alive.

The burning of Orthodox chuches and the desecration of gravesites is an ominous sign of the Nazi regime re-lived again the holy land of Kosovo and Metohia.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

It's so shame holding a cross in one hand and other talking hate... do you really know the meaning of the person who hold the cross and preach to humanity JESUS sacrifice himself for PEACE not for HATE but people like you are no different from those radicals from other religion's ..its to feel sorry how religion's are becoming a corruption tool..

Logic

pre 13 godina

Ylber wrote: "I feel awful having to dignify it with response".
Hmmm... A few days ago dear Tachi was pretty generous in applying expressions "Nazi", "fascist propaganda" "Goebbels" to a prominent citizen of Switzerland. Albanian camp was applauding that speech.Not a word of disagreement even. Nobody remembered then that this WAS an insult to the West which IS feeding the youngest, proud Europeans for so many years already.In contrary, more insults, more stones were thrown at the very country that is giving food and home to significant numbers of that "dignified" camp. Anybody felt awful about Tachi's blabbering?

NasEnglez

pre 13 godina

At this time of year let us remember the doxology, "Peace on Earth, and Goodwill to men".

In relation to the Holy Fathers statement, I must agree, there is a continuation of the Facist ideals of the 20's and 30's, continuing in the KiM. KLA or IMRO, whats the difference?Ultimately they both utilised brigandage as a political tool to acheive their aims. Political killing= the weak by the willing. I accept that great wrongs were done by and to many people during the break up of Yugoslavia, however before everyone runs to attack the Serbs, if events in Kosovo and Sebrenica are always to be shouted about, why not events in Jasenovac and kragujevac? I come from the UK and have seen the damage done to my country by mass immigration. And if Canterbury Cathedral was suddenly in another country i.e Kentistan, you can bet your boots I would be upset. And, if the same "allies", who I had fought with against facism then bombed my country to get me to accept that I must give over my cultural and religious centre because the majority demanded it, then you can bet your boots I would not like it much. The hipocrisy of the western politicians begs belief. The USA had a civil war about succession. And the result was its not allowed. And I doubt very much if the UK would accept the Islamic Republic of Birminghamistan, yet Serbia must give up a significant portion of its territory, because a politician Bill Clinton(who cant even keep his marriage vows, smoked dope - but didnt inhale) and his so sincere friend, Tony (whatever you say USA) Blair say its OK? Then yes Facisim and the rule of right is might is continuing in KiM.

Nexh

pre 13 godina

I think it would've been better if pope tries to unite people and not bring more hate. This is not helping anyone!
Church or mosque should not get involved in politics.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

Bravo Amfilohije,I am so proud since myself I am a Montenegrin like you!

Well, Whoop-dee-doo!

A holy man that claims that he "knows Christ" would not have divisive thoughts or utter words that separate and divide His flock--Never!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)


The hypocritical statements and contradictions are coming from your post, nothing else.

If you Montenegrin, than you disagree on the initative to create an autocephalus Montenegrin Orthodox Church, similar to the FYROM authocephalus Orthodox Church not recognized by the Patrichiate of Constantinopoli. This only serves to further disintigrate and divide the Orthodox believers.

The reason you hate the Holy Father Amfilohije is that he continues to support the SPC in Montenegro while others want to destroy it.

Je¿ boloñski

pre 13 godina

but for all those who celebrate xmas now, they should have a happy and peaceful one.
roberto
chilly frisco
(roberto, 6 January 2011 21:36)

That wish would sound more honest if who celebrate today would get the explanation what your famous "baloney" was about. Otherwise that wish sounds pretty much a baloney, too.

That "baloney" will be mentioned once in a while. Till you prove to be a man with a backbone.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Why does a man who isn't even responsible for Kosovo get so much attention? And why is the most nonsensical thing he says adopted as a headline? Is B92 trying to attack the church?
(Wim Roffel, 6 January 2011 17:03) "

It helps the page-view numbers.

Only with Love all things are possible!!!

pre 13 godina

Bravo Amfilohije,I am so proud since myself I am a Montenegrin like you!

Well, Whoop-dee-doo!

It is appropriate to call it as it is,but also to remember:

We Montenegrens recognized Kosovo in our own language.

Should we remember everything, just some things, or try to forget everything and move on like brothers and sisters that we truly all are?
A holy man that claims that he "knows Christ" would not have divisive thoughts or utter words that separate and divide His flock--Never!
Maybe its a good idea in the future to get someone from Sveta Gora that "saw" the Light, to lead the church and let the religious generals, historians and tradition philosophers retire. If not, then you will go down the road like the Catholic Church--you will lose the young generations that see the contradictions
and the hypocrisy. And then you are going to blame the "others", other forces, and create more division amongst the people.
Those that deviate from Truth and Love can land in the company of Croat Catholics and radical Islamists--
real quick--if they don't wake up to God!
Those that teach the essence of Christ which is forgiveness and love one another, are beyond criticism.
We are all forgiven.Remember? Your job is to spread that good news and not play politics with God's children and continue to divide them.

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!

iliri

pre 13 godina

''The German people at least feel shame but the Albanian public only laughs bc they are atheists who lack religious morals.''

LoL ''atheists who lack religious morals'' ...

doursej palokaj

pre 13 godina

Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. (Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)
Dardanian´s never belong to serbia serbians from carpathian arrived in balkan in 700 B.C, so we welcome that .
But Regarding Dardania "Kosova" belong to albanians, 98% of them inhabited. we do not ask you what it was population of Kosovo is growing extreme Milosevic's regime has never shown the truth about total number of population that is expected to arrive 3 mill newer say never in politics

Peggy

pre 13 godina

So Kosovo has been Serbian for only 0.000014% of its history. And that's a totally insignificant portion of the Kosovo's history.
(icj1, 8 January 2011 05:36)
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Are you for real?

Now, come back when you can point to some time in history when Kosovo actually belonged to Albanians. Show me some proof, anything.

peggy

pre 13 godina

If we had not won the war (with a little help from our friends) it would have been illegal and all those guys whose portraits now adorn our currency would have been hanged as traitors. Moral: God and law are on the side of the bigger guns.
(Amer, 8 January 2011 04:33)
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Stop speaking as an American when we all know that you are Albanian. You had NOTHING to do with winning any war.

You got one thing right though. The law is on the side of the bigger guns but that is only temporary. Nobody has the biggest guns forever.

sj

pre 13 godina

And how do you think did the Aussies get Tasmania from the Aboriginals, and not just Tasmania but the whole continent?

If the Lebanese become 90% of the population Tasmania, they'll do the same think the Brits did to the Aboriginals.
(Zoti, 7 January 2011 21:26)

The big difference is that Tasmania is a self-sustaining island with plenty of natural resources i.e minerals, timber and water. It has more than enough energy and it has a vast amount of very good arable land – in fact it has some of the best in Australia, second only to the Liverpool Plain in New South Wales. It also has plenty of sea produce which is in high demand throughout Asia because it’s produced in clean non-polluted waters.
What does Kosovo have to be a sustainable country? Nothing, oh, expect 2 million mouths to feed and who do you think will have to take on that burden? Germany, Austria, Hungary? No it’s going to be Serbia again.
By the way being 90% in an area of a country does not mean immigrants can take it away from a State. You might want to go back to the ICJ and ask it to declare you independent – good luck in trying that one.
Perhaps you might

icj1

pre 13 godina

Kosovo has been Serbian for 700 years. (Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)

Let's assume you are right.... but Kosovo's territory was created together with the whole Earth 5 billion years ago (of course according to science and not Mr. Radovica's God).

So Kosovo has been Serbian for only 0.000014% of its history. And that's a totally insignificant portion of the Kosovo's history.

icj1

pre 13 godina

The fact that Serbs were too generous to you guys and allowed you to settle in Kosovo in large numbers after WW2 is the price they are paying now.
(Peggy, 7 January 2011 11:45)

How many Albanians did Serbs allow to settle in Kosovo after WWII ? And where did those Albanians come from ?

icj1

pre 13 godina

yet Serbia must give up a significant portion of its territory, because a politician Bill Clinton(who cant even keep his marriage vows, smoked dope - but didnt inhale) and his so sincere friend, Tony (whatever you say USA) Blair say its OK?
(NasEnglez, 7 January 2011 21:57)

I think you got it wrong... It was Serbia who told Albanians in Kosovo to leave in the Spring of 1999 and they did just that... left Serbia !

sj

pre 13 godina

(Zoti, 8 January 2011 19:49)

There is no egg on our face as it was a rigged decision by the US. However, I suggest that you guys go back to the ICJ and demand that it issue a statement that Kosovo is independent. The ICJ only said that the act was not illegal, but never said that Kosovo is independent – I would have thought that being one of the most incarcerated groups on this planet you guys would be able to tell the difference in legal interpretations. But maybe not, perhaps being ignorant is another one of your strengths.
Yes I have read that the Albanians claim to have lived in the Kosovo since the days of Atlantis, but unfortunately they were not in those numbers. This only occurred since WW2 when that bastard Tito decided to give your fathers asylum and allowed them to settle in Kosovo in large numbers.
Considering your people have been in Kosovo since the dawn of time, why is there no archeological evidence to support that theory? There is not even a cave painting that can be attributed to the Albanians.
Serbs arrived in the 6 Century in large numbers, but we left a big impression in Kosovo with our buildings and Churches – once again where are yours to be found???????

Anti Taliban Murijash

pre 13 godina

Imitate Christ,not Croat Catholics!!!
(Only with Love all things are possible!!!, 6 January 2011 22:21)

The most stupid post in a long time...
They attack you,snatch your land away ,chase your people out of their homes and you would "forgive them" like Christ did ...
No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality...
If your definition of Christianity is pacifisim,cowardice and not standing up to your enemies ,than no,than I am not a Christian ...
In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 January 2011 00:17)


In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 Januar

Yes. Your "priests" chose to roost with the chickens instead of soaring high above the world within the infinite Mind of God, and if you follow them you too will roost with the chickens, as you are now. But there is hope. You can make another choice--now. Even after 2,000 years it is not too late to accept right thinking.

CG

pre 13 godina

" Blessed are the peace makers"
Hristos se Rodi!!!
(messenger, 7 January 2011 18:55)

You cannot make peace with someone who is trying to exterminate you!

Vaistina se rodi!

Zoti

pre 13 godina

Well Aussie, how would you like it if, say the Lebanese, immigrated in their hundreds of thousands to Australia and then all of a sudden annexed Tasmania and declaring it independent? To add more to the story say the Anglo Saxon Australians had their most revered historical buildings etc now what do you think the average Aussie would say? Remember the Cronulla riots.
I know a large number of Aussies and their answer would be “they can go to hell if they want but they are not taking our land”.
You get the message now!
(sj, 7 January 2011)

And how do you think did the Aussies get Tasmania from the Aboriginals, and not just Tasmania but the whole continent?

If the Lebanese become 90% of the population Tasmania, they'll do the same think the Brits did to the Aboriginals.

The Flying Dutch

pre 13 godina

"No wonder that you Serbians loose territory after territory with that pacifist looser mentality..."

"We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians..."
(CG, 7 January 2011 00:17)

I hope you are being sarcastic, right? A country which incited 4 devestating wars which caused so much pain and suffering; a country which is responsible for the death of hundred of thousands of people. You cal this "pacifist mentality"? If you want to be taken serious, than don't make such outragous comments, oké?

messenger

pre 13 godina

In Montenegro our priests in medival ages were leading their armies for Christ against the Turks...
We hate pacifism and cowardice,unlike Serbians...
(CG, 7 Januar

" Blessed are the peace makers"
Hristos se Rodi!!!

Amer

pre 13 godina

"The USA had a civil war about succession. And the result was its not allowed.

(NasEnglez, 7 January 2011 21:57) "

We had an earlier war - the Revolutionary War - and seceded from Britain. That time I guess it was allowed.

If we had not won the war (with a little help from our friends) it would have been illegal and all those guys whose portraits now adorn our currency would have been hanged as traitors. Moral: God and law are on the side of the bigger guns.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Stop speaking as an American when we all know that you are Albanian. You had NOTHING to do with winning any war.

You got one thing right though. The law is on the side of the bigger guns but that is only temporary. Nobody has the biggest guns forever.
(peggy, 8 January 2011 14:57) "

"We all know" in this case = "Peggy thinks (for some strange reason)"

Granted, I had nothing to do with winning the Revolutionary War, but one of my great-greats did (he was a privateer, sort of like a sea-going hajduk with a license, from George Washington).

Zoti

pre 13 godina

What does Kosovo have to be a sustainable country? Nothing, oh, expect 2 million mouths to feed and who do you think will have to take on that burden? Germany, Austria, Hungary? No it’s going to be Serbia again.
By the way being 90% in an area of a country does not mean immigrants can take it away from a State. You might want to go back to the ICJ and ask it to declare you independent – good luck in trying that one.
(sj, 8 January 2011)

We'll leave the ICJ to you guys since you never get enough eggs in your face.
And Albanian are not immigrants in Kosova but indigenous population. The immigrants are the Serbs and there is a very well documented of your migration from the Russian steppes to the Balkans in the VII century.


P.S. Thanks B92 for keeping this story at the top and getting rid of the Qatar recognition.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

There is no egg on our face as it was a rigged decision by the US.
(sj, 8 January 2011)

By now you have a giant omelette frying in your face so you don't notice the additional eggs served to you.
I'm not gonna bother responding to the rest of your post since B92 already truncated half of my previous comment.
Seems like even Serb journalists cannot handle the bitter truth about Kosova.

So long.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Look who is talking.... is he talking to himself? Serbia has a lot to learn. A healthy reflection on it's past would bea first step ....