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Wednesday, 05.01.2011.

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Patriarch: Foreign officials knew about crimes

Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Irinej today accused the international community of knowing that trade in human organs was taking part in Kosovo.

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iliri

pre 13 godina

''Albanians never wanted peaceful resolution to Kosovo problem. Remember Milosevic came to power in 1987, but you had your uprising since 1981 every spring. ''

So you are saying that albanians rolled tanks in beograd every spring since 1981?

Milovanovic

pre 13 godina

Albanians put together the most civilized resistance in the region against Serbs, but you prefered force and war instead of peaceful talks.
(Denis, 8 January 2011 00:22)

Albanians never wanted peaceful resolution to Kosovo problem. Remember Milosevic came to power in 1987, but you had your uprising since 1981 every spring.

You never wanted peacefully resolution and you started your strugle much before he came to power.

Why your leaders never wanted to attend meeting organised by Pacoli in 1999 to prevent war? Because they were instructed by the US!

Some Albanians were never peaceful and you know that. Since beginning of 1980/81, you were using rape, threatening and other violent methods to expel Serbs, Montenegrans and other non Albanians from Kosovo.

The reasons why you did not start your arm strugle before was lack of weapons and logisctics from US.

So you can go on some other website and spread your propaganda about peaceful Albanians and your peaceful leader Ibrahim Rugova who never condemned any single atrocity committed by Albanians!

Ha, ha, ha.... !!!!
(icj1, 8 January 2011 05:50)

You can laugh as much as you want, but this has happened in August 1998. British Defense wanted to interview me! They already wanted to attack Serbia in October 1998. Why my knowledge of Kosovo from 1989 would help them I don't know. I refused to talk to them on this issue.

icj1

pre 13 godina

I was approached in 1998 by British Defence to help them with some information about Kosovo, based on my knowledge of Kosovo from February 1998 when I was dealing with Trepca uprising. Brits told me, we have given you political asylum now you have to help us. I refused and left UK permanently.
(Milovanovic, 7 January 2011 20:56)

Ha, ha, ha.... !!!!

Denis

pre 13 godina

(Milovanovic, 7 January 2011 20:56)

I get it, so Milosevic was really a creation of K-Albanians, which manipulated the peaceful and just Serbs to keep him in power, although Serbs only, voted him in power over and over again. Serbs had no saying on this K-Alb & US imposed leader.... hmm very charming logic.

Serbia did nothing wrong in Kosovo, indeed it was the Albanians who protested peacefully cuz their autonomy was removed and tanks were rolled in. Albanians are guilty cuz for 10 yrs instead of picking up arms like Slovenians, Croats and Bosnians did to break free , they boycoted Serbian only run institutions in Kosovo where 90% of pop was Albanian.

Serbs didn't really kill or expell anyone in Kosovo or even in ex-Yugo, they are a victim of modern day media, although countless charges have been taken place and proven true not only in Hague but in Serbia itself against Serbian thugs and security forces who killed and expelled at will civilian population.

Albanians put together the most civilized resistance in the region against Serbs, but you prefered force and war instead of peaceful talks.

You bully Albanians now cuz they are poorer and the Ind. status is still on the works. But why don't you go try to bully the Croats, about Krajina for example where Serbs got it way worse than in Kosovo. You don't cuz you know what you will get.

Milovanovic

pre 13 godina

Alb tried 10 yrs to negotiate with your kind peacefuly, without firing a bullet, while others were fighting Serbs to death all over Yugo. Yet Alb are the intolerant ones?

(Denis, 7 January 2011 16:44)

Denis, you know that this is complete nonsense. You (K Alb) needed Milosevic in order to achieve secession, Milosevic needed you to stay on power in Serbia. US never wanted to remove Milosevic because of this.

The secessionist leaders, starting with Ibrahim Rugova, had promised them, "Do this, do that and the US will intervene and we will get Kosovo." They had been promising this for years. "Sacrifice your children by boycotting the schools; sacrifice your health by boycotting the hospitals; use your suffering to show foreign public opinion how we suffer under the Serbs, and the U.S. will come to our rescue."

If you watched BBC film about Kosovo, you will see when one of the political leaders (he was part of Kosovo Albanians Ramboulet negotiation team) said that US told them that they have to show to world their suffering and mentioned 5000 dead, as a US suggested trigger to intervene. Same situation as in Srebrenica.

I was approached in 1998 by British Defence to help them with some information about Kosovo, based on my knowledge of Kosovo from February 1998 when I was dealing with Trepca uprising. Brits told me, we have given you political asylum now you have to help us. I refused and left UK permanently.

Then suddenly Racak hoax happened.

You can write your propaganda somewhere else but us who know about these things, are not buying it. Simple as that.

Denis

pre 13 godina

Regardless of what you say about your religious beliefs, your statement shows that you have the same tendencies as most fanatical Muslims – you don’t like something you want to burn or kill.
Once again I ask the question how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians?
None because you kicked ALL of them out. Claiming that they all cooperated with Serbs is an idiotic statement. Albanians are the most intolerant people on this planet, period!
Wait till Albanians troops come back from Afghanistan and you’ll see large numbers of Muslim fanatics start to appear in the region.
(sj, 6 January 2011 23:24)

So how many bosnians are left in hundreds of areas of RS where they used to live? The reaction of Albanians is no different than that of Bosnian Serbs, Bosnians, Croats etc just to give you a few recent examples, but yet the albanians are the most intolerant people? Alb tried 10 yrs to negotiate with your kind peacefuly, without firing a bullet, while others were fighting Serbs to death all over Yugo. Yet Alb are the intolerant ones?

K-Alb agreed to a constitution that gives Serb minority in Kosovo almost equal governing rights, something with no precedent in the region, yet, Alb are the intolerant ones.

Your church, your state, your Academy of Science, has a proven record of anti-Albanian rhetoric, teaching and undertakings (recall many memorandums of Serbian academy of science) yet Alb are the intolrant ones.

Claiming that - all Sudeten Germans cooperated with Nazis - was a nonsense, but yet they were all expelled and thousand killed,.... claiming that all Bosnians of Srebrenica were cooperating with Naser Oric was a non sense but they were all slaughtered (8000 at a time) and expelled, not by irregulars but by a well organized and commanded armed force who is suppose to uphold to the norms of war and civility. Same goes for Kosovo, where your tolerant Serbian solders locked entire families in pizza shops and threw granades inside.

Go preach someone else about tolerance, you are way out of your league here.

Vuk Valkonen

pre 13 godina

If this is alI he speaks about violence and brutality in the Balkans I must say Patriarch Irinej is a shameless coward.
(Olli, 5 January 2011 17:29)

Olli, on which bases you claim this? You know him? He is not Amfilohije!

sj

pre 13 godina

(Denis, 6 January 2011 16:35)
Regardless of what you say about your religious beliefs, your statement shows that you have the same tendencies as most fanatical Muslims – you don’t like something you want to burn or kill.
Once again I ask the question how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians?
None because you kicked ALL of them out. Claiming that they all cooperated with Serbs is an idiotic statement. Albanians are the most intolerant people on this planet, period!
Wait till Albanians troops come back from Afghanistan and you’ll see large numbers of Muslim fanatics start to appear in the region.

Denis

pre 13 godina

Denis, spoken like a true Muslim when things don’t go your way then use threats and violence and talk about burning churches. On the subject of ethnic cleansing, how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians? NONE!!!…!! Kicked them all out eh?
(sj, 6 January 2011 04:17)

Ohh man, you have no clue how much of a muslim I am (although I do come from a muslim family who never practiced).

In fact I am one of those Albanians who would vote if I had the chance, that all mosques in Albanian populated areas be raised to the ground, and islam be outlawed, cuz I truly believe that islam is(was) a greater danger for the Albanian identity than Serbia itself. How about that, is that "muslim" enough for you?

I have no beef against your priest and church, I just think that it is unwise to get the church involved in this conflict, considering the past.

When you talk about other minorities in Kosovo and the fact that they left after the war due to Albanian anger, you are talking about a reaction, with plenty of precedents in history.

Look what Czechs did to the German population after the WWII. If any of the populations (i.e gypsies, serbs) were perceived as "collaborators" they can't escape the revenge. Not sure what else do you expect?

The question is what did they do when Serbs marched in and killed, burned, and expelled thousands of their K-Alb neigbors, right in front of their eyes.

If you were an Albanian that lost members of his family, property, and was expelled, would you live with these neigbors, who acted as everything was normal during your sufferings?

I don't think so. But I guess first you have to suffer the evils that they have suffered to get a grip of reality, cuz till now you speak out of principle...which is good, but a bit naive.

Semmy

pre 13 godina

Go Serbs! The truth has to go out! Time is on your side....ppl who still other ppl land and country has to be put to the Wright place!... western country are starting to understand what REALLY happen in Kosova, and to tell you the truth, I was one of them who believed everything that media sad about Kosova ....now I know that Kosova is Mafia imaginary semi-country, created by USA in order to achieve easy transport of narcotic/human organs ...SHAME ON YOU NATO for letting this happen!

Semmy

pre 13 godina

Go Serbs! The truth has to go out! Time is on your side....ppl who still other ppl land and country has to be put to the Wright place!... western country are starting to understand what REALLY happen in Kosova, and to tell you the truth, I was one of them who believed everything that media sad about Kosova ....now I know that Kosova is Mafia imaginary semi-country, created by USA in order to achieve easy transport of narcotic/human organs ...SHAME ON YOU NATO for letting this happen!

sj

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

Wait a minute. You want to take sides in the conflict but do not want to suffer the consequences? The slaughter and cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo took place right in front of your churches and you clergy.... what the hell did you do to stop it back then, and how have you condemned your passivity?

This is better though, cuz it is a clear reminder for the K-Alb to never accept anything less than independence.
(Denis, 5 January 2011 16:47)

Denis, spoken like a true Muslim when things don’t go your way then use threats and violence and talk about burning churches. On the subject of ethnic cleansing, how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kicked them all out eh?

L-pz

pre 13 godina

SPC was main architect of the horror of the'90 and brought serbia to his knees. when they going to learn the lesson ,patriacht irnej are you having a laugh?

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

That is one of the way's how the religions are showing slowly there real faith ...corruption ...and more people are being killed everyday in name of religion..SHAME.where is the real GOD ????....

Denis

pre 13 godina

It is disgraceful and despicable to condone and justify any attack on any religious site including the unforgivable act of the desecration of gravesites.

The only clown is the one who does not realize that he dresses and talks like one.
(Jugoslavjia, 5 January 2011 21:26)

So let me get this straight. The desecration of graves is a despicable act, but the digging of graves, and the mass murder and mass cleansing that Serbs executed in Kosovo right in front of this institution (Orth. Church) is NOT? hmm

This sounds like a circus now.

This man shall not speak of anything about politics, considering the heat that revolves around it in the region. It's only fair, no one from the Albanian side does it, but I guess you want the religion to get involed so you can drag the Albanian side into your level of conflict, and portray them as islamic radicals later...old trick of Serbia.

If the High priest wants to practice his religion in Kosovo he should at least be silent and predict the word of God solely, especially considering the history and precedents of this church.

The Albanians never attacked your churches until ur church started participating in their misery and extinction undertakings of the Serbian state.

If your church would have been a place of love and peace for all Kosovo residents, and had done what your state never knew how to do responsibly, (govern the ethnic relations there), maybe we would have had a better and less bitter reality today.

But your priest can hardly wait to stick it to the Albanians, even when there is really no need to aggrivate the conflict further, and he expects love in return??

And Albanians allow this character to preach all this right under their nose.

Illyria

pre 13 godina

He has forgotten the unnumerous attrocities made by the Serbs.

Looks like he (and many Serbs) are using this so-called organ trade to ease their own conscience for the horrific crimes the Serbs made.

He's an old fool with much religion power over the Serbs who eat of his hand.

That is also the reason why we, The Albanians/Illyriers, will never trust Orthodox priest;

Kosova 4-ever

Ancient Illyria

Jugoslavjia

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

(Denis, 5 January 2011 16:47)

It is disgraceful and despicable to condone and justify any attack on any religious site including the unforgivable act of the desecration of gravesites.

The only clown is the one who does not realize that he dresses and talks like one.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

He taks like a polititian and should be treated as such. I forgot that "he is immune" like Dick Marty but not on being a senator grounds but being "the Christ on earth"....))
(EA, 5 January 2011 19:00)
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Are you not ashamed to show your ignorance?
Perhaps you are using cheap shots in the hope of making him look bad but all it shows is just how ignorant and spiteful you really are.

Representative of Christ? Give me a break. Are you perhaps talking about the Pope being a representative of God on earth?
Wrong religion.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"The organ transplant is not like swapping a wig or a cloth. You can not expect that an organ from a Serbian peasant to match a recipient in god knows where."
======================

You're right. His kidney is not educated enough to be put in a body of a rich westerner.

ida

pre 13 godina

The foreign officials rescued not one kidnapped Serb. In a few cases the Albanians themselves decided to release prisoners, but not in one case did the international community get a single Serbs out of a basement or other illegal prison area. Reports were met with deaf ears, or them washing their hands of it being their responsibility, or feigned attempts at rescue whereby the they would give the Albanians a long time of pre-warning to enable the Albanians to relocate the Serbs (and sometimes Roma and other Albanians they were keeping illegally.)
There was a case of the German contingent finding Roma prisoners at a police station in Prizren. These were let go as the Germans wanted the station, but the Albanians who were caught red-handed torturing the Roma, were walking free on the streets in days.

EA

pre 13 godina

He taks like a polititian and should be treated as such. I forgot that "he is immune" like Dick Marty but not on being a senator grounds but being "the Christ on earth"....))

Olli

pre 13 godina

If this is alI he speaks about violence and brutality in the Balkans I must say Patriarch Irinej is a shameless coward. If he has no balls to look at the makings of his own beasts can we consider Irinej as some kind of front figure for moral conscience of Christians?

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Thank you Father Irinej, for saying what Tadic does not have the guts to say, for he may upset his friends in Germany and the US.
We all know that this was well known by Nicholas Burns, Holbrooke, Albright, Wesley Clark, and the rest of the Serb hating gang which still runs the Whitehouse. Also it was definitely known by that disgusting Kouchner, and by the Germans - always friends with whomever the Serbs' enemies are. But the truth is coming out, and I am sure they are scared to death of this. I look forward to more from Wikileaks on this, keep it coming!

Denis

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

Wait a minute. You want to take sides in the conflict but do not want to suffer the consequences? The slaughter and cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo took place right in front of your churches and you clergy.... what the hell did you do to stop it back then, and how have you condemned your passivity?

This is better though, cuz it is a clear reminder for the K-Alb to never accept anything less than independence.

lids

pre 13 godina

Cold truth has to be told over and over again-there was collective knowledge of these horrific crimes by international community and the madness they brought to KiM,which they had to defend by being silent and letting albanians ethnicly clean majority of Serbians in order to keep the truth from coming out.
Thank god there are people in that same international community with conciense who are not afraid to point the fingers at monsters.

>Demi

pre 13 godina

Stop crying about about somthing that never has happend and ask the question where more than thousand k.albanians are wich since 11 years until today are still missing ??


Why do you speak about fairytales and tryes to hide the real fact?? We albanians don't know what Serbia did to the bodyorgans of our missing relatives. Let's investigate that and not some fairytales coming from belgrade through marty mouse.

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

It is a shame how the man of supposinly god makes this kind of political comments.
To be honest with everyone here the claims of organ trade are so unrealistic and unfound. Just think about it what methodology and technology you need to have to make an organ transplant. In any modern hospital in a completely legal way to make a successful organ transplant needs months or preparation and matching and the operation should be held in a highly sterilized environment. The house whatever the colour, in Albania will not even closely fulfil any of the above criteria. The organ transplant is not like swapping a wig or a cloth. You can not expect that an organ from a Serbian peasant to match a recipient in god knows where. It does not work like that. I know that Thaqi is a crook and deserves to be in the prison for the crimes he did to Kosova since he came on the scene but he is in a no way capable to make such arrangements he is not that clever. I would 100% believe if the claims were that Thaqi has tortured Serbs and others and ate their internal organs rather than sold.

Enisa

pre 13 godina

And what about all the crimes committes in kosovo against women, children men by the Serb militaries, paramilitaries? Was the patriarch Irinej awared of all those crimes?

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Thank you Father Irinej, for saying what Tadic does not have the guts to say, for he may upset his friends in Germany and the US.
We all know that this was well known by Nicholas Burns, Holbrooke, Albright, Wesley Clark, and the rest of the Serb hating gang which still runs the Whitehouse. Also it was definitely known by that disgusting Kouchner, and by the Germans - always friends with whomever the Serbs' enemies are. But the truth is coming out, and I am sure they are scared to death of this. I look forward to more from Wikileaks on this, keep it coming!

lids

pre 13 godina

Cold truth has to be told over and over again-there was collective knowledge of these horrific crimes by international community and the madness they brought to KiM,which they had to defend by being silent and letting albanians ethnicly clean majority of Serbians in order to keep the truth from coming out.
Thank god there are people in that same international community with conciense who are not afraid to point the fingers at monsters.

Denis

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

Wait a minute. You want to take sides in the conflict but do not want to suffer the consequences? The slaughter and cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo took place right in front of your churches and you clergy.... what the hell did you do to stop it back then, and how have you condemned your passivity?

This is better though, cuz it is a clear reminder for the K-Alb to never accept anything less than independence.

Enisa

pre 13 godina

And what about all the crimes committes in kosovo against women, children men by the Serb militaries, paramilitaries? Was the patriarch Irinej awared of all those crimes?

ida

pre 13 godina

The foreign officials rescued not one kidnapped Serb. In a few cases the Albanians themselves decided to release prisoners, but not in one case did the international community get a single Serbs out of a basement or other illegal prison area. Reports were met with deaf ears, or them washing their hands of it being their responsibility, or feigned attempts at rescue whereby the they would give the Albanians a long time of pre-warning to enable the Albanians to relocate the Serbs (and sometimes Roma and other Albanians they were keeping illegally.)
There was a case of the German contingent finding Roma prisoners at a police station in Prizren. These were let go as the Germans wanted the station, but the Albanians who were caught red-handed torturing the Roma, were walking free on the streets in days.

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

It is a shame how the man of supposinly god makes this kind of political comments.
To be honest with everyone here the claims of organ trade are so unrealistic and unfound. Just think about it what methodology and technology you need to have to make an organ transplant. In any modern hospital in a completely legal way to make a successful organ transplant needs months or preparation and matching and the operation should be held in a highly sterilized environment. The house whatever the colour, in Albania will not even closely fulfil any of the above criteria. The organ transplant is not like swapping a wig or a cloth. You can not expect that an organ from a Serbian peasant to match a recipient in god knows where. It does not work like that. I know that Thaqi is a crook and deserves to be in the prison for the crimes he did to Kosova since he came on the scene but he is in a no way capable to make such arrangements he is not that clever. I would 100% believe if the claims were that Thaqi has tortured Serbs and others and ate their internal organs rather than sold.

EA

pre 13 godina

He taks like a polititian and should be treated as such. I forgot that "he is immune" like Dick Marty but not on being a senator grounds but being "the Christ on earth"....))

>Demi

pre 13 godina

Stop crying about about somthing that never has happend and ask the question where more than thousand k.albanians are wich since 11 years until today are still missing ??


Why do you speak about fairytales and tryes to hide the real fact?? We albanians don't know what Serbia did to the bodyorgans of our missing relatives. Let's investigate that and not some fairytales coming from belgrade through marty mouse.

Olli

pre 13 godina

If this is alI he speaks about violence and brutality in the Balkans I must say Patriarch Irinej is a shameless coward. If he has no balls to look at the makings of his own beasts can we consider Irinej as some kind of front figure for moral conscience of Christians?

Jugoslavjia

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

(Denis, 5 January 2011 16:47)

It is disgraceful and despicable to condone and justify any attack on any religious site including the unforgivable act of the desecration of gravesites.

The only clown is the one who does not realize that he dresses and talks like one.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"The organ transplant is not like swapping a wig or a cloth. You can not expect that an organ from a Serbian peasant to match a recipient in god knows where."
======================

You're right. His kidney is not educated enough to be put in a body of a rich westerner.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

He taks like a polititian and should be treated as such. I forgot that "he is immune" like Dick Marty but not on being a senator grounds but being "the Christ on earth"....))
(EA, 5 January 2011 19:00)
-------------------------

Are you not ashamed to show your ignorance?
Perhaps you are using cheap shots in the hope of making him look bad but all it shows is just how ignorant and spiteful you really are.

Representative of Christ? Give me a break. Are you perhaps talking about the Pope being a representative of God on earth?
Wrong religion.

Semmy

pre 13 godina

Go Serbs! The truth has to go out! Time is on your side....ppl who still other ppl land and country has to be put to the Wright place!... western country are starting to understand what REALLY happen in Kosova, and to tell you the truth, I was one of them who believed everything that media sad about Kosova ....now I know that Kosova is Mafia imaginary semi-country, created by USA in order to achieve easy transport of narcotic/human organs ...SHAME ON YOU NATO for letting this happen!

Denis

pre 13 godina

Denis, spoken like a true Muslim when things don’t go your way then use threats and violence and talk about burning churches. On the subject of ethnic cleansing, how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians? NONE!!!…!! Kicked them all out eh?
(sj, 6 January 2011 04:17)

Ohh man, you have no clue how much of a muslim I am (although I do come from a muslim family who never practiced).

In fact I am one of those Albanians who would vote if I had the chance, that all mosques in Albanian populated areas be raised to the ground, and islam be outlawed, cuz I truly believe that islam is(was) a greater danger for the Albanian identity than Serbia itself. How about that, is that "muslim" enough for you?

I have no beef against your priest and church, I just think that it is unwise to get the church involved in this conflict, considering the past.

When you talk about other minorities in Kosovo and the fact that they left after the war due to Albanian anger, you are talking about a reaction, with plenty of precedents in history.

Look what Czechs did to the German population after the WWII. If any of the populations (i.e gypsies, serbs) were perceived as "collaborators" they can't escape the revenge. Not sure what else do you expect?

The question is what did they do when Serbs marched in and killed, burned, and expelled thousands of their K-Alb neigbors, right in front of their eyes.

If you were an Albanian that lost members of his family, property, and was expelled, would you live with these neigbors, who acted as everything was normal during your sufferings?

I don't think so. But I guess first you have to suffer the evils that they have suffered to get a grip of reality, cuz till now you speak out of principle...which is good, but a bit naive.

Vuk Valkonen

pre 13 godina

If this is alI he speaks about violence and brutality in the Balkans I must say Patriarch Irinej is a shameless coward.
(Olli, 5 January 2011 17:29)

Olli, on which bases you claim this? You know him? He is not Amfilohije!

Denis

pre 13 godina

Regardless of what you say about your religious beliefs, your statement shows that you have the same tendencies as most fanatical Muslims – you don’t like something you want to burn or kill.
Once again I ask the question how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians?
None because you kicked ALL of them out. Claiming that they all cooperated with Serbs is an idiotic statement. Albanians are the most intolerant people on this planet, period!
Wait till Albanians troops come back from Afghanistan and you’ll see large numbers of Muslim fanatics start to appear in the region.
(sj, 6 January 2011 23:24)

So how many bosnians are left in hundreds of areas of RS where they used to live? The reaction of Albanians is no different than that of Bosnian Serbs, Bosnians, Croats etc just to give you a few recent examples, but yet the albanians are the most intolerant people? Alb tried 10 yrs to negotiate with your kind peacefuly, without firing a bullet, while others were fighting Serbs to death all over Yugo. Yet Alb are the intolerant ones?

K-Alb agreed to a constitution that gives Serb minority in Kosovo almost equal governing rights, something with no precedent in the region, yet, Alb are the intolerant ones.

Your church, your state, your Academy of Science, has a proven record of anti-Albanian rhetoric, teaching and undertakings (recall many memorandums of Serbian academy of science) yet Alb are the intolrant ones.

Claiming that - all Sudeten Germans cooperated with Nazis - was a nonsense, but yet they were all expelled and thousand killed,.... claiming that all Bosnians of Srebrenica were cooperating with Naser Oric was a non sense but they were all slaughtered (8000 at a time) and expelled, not by irregulars but by a well organized and commanded armed force who is suppose to uphold to the norms of war and civility. Same goes for Kosovo, where your tolerant Serbian solders locked entire families in pizza shops and threw granades inside.

Go preach someone else about tolerance, you are way out of your league here.

Illyria

pre 13 godina

He has forgotten the unnumerous attrocities made by the Serbs.

Looks like he (and many Serbs) are using this so-called organ trade to ease their own conscience for the horrific crimes the Serbs made.

He's an old fool with much religion power over the Serbs who eat of his hand.

That is also the reason why we, The Albanians/Illyriers, will never trust Orthodox priest;

Kosova 4-ever

Ancient Illyria

sj

pre 13 godina

(Denis, 6 January 2011 16:35)
Regardless of what you say about your religious beliefs, your statement shows that you have the same tendencies as most fanatical Muslims – you don’t like something you want to burn or kill.
Once again I ask the question how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians?
None because you kicked ALL of them out. Claiming that they all cooperated with Serbs is an idiotic statement. Albanians are the most intolerant people on this planet, period!
Wait till Albanians troops come back from Afghanistan and you’ll see large numbers of Muslim fanatics start to appear in the region.

Milovanovic

pre 13 godina

Alb tried 10 yrs to negotiate with your kind peacefuly, without firing a bullet, while others were fighting Serbs to death all over Yugo. Yet Alb are the intolerant ones?

(Denis, 7 January 2011 16:44)

Denis, you know that this is complete nonsense. You (K Alb) needed Milosevic in order to achieve secession, Milosevic needed you to stay on power in Serbia. US never wanted to remove Milosevic because of this.

The secessionist leaders, starting with Ibrahim Rugova, had promised them, "Do this, do that and the US will intervene and we will get Kosovo." They had been promising this for years. "Sacrifice your children by boycotting the schools; sacrifice your health by boycotting the hospitals; use your suffering to show foreign public opinion how we suffer under the Serbs, and the U.S. will come to our rescue."

If you watched BBC film about Kosovo, you will see when one of the political leaders (he was part of Kosovo Albanians Ramboulet negotiation team) said that US told them that they have to show to world their suffering and mentioned 5000 dead, as a US suggested trigger to intervene. Same situation as in Srebrenica.

I was approached in 1998 by British Defence to help them with some information about Kosovo, based on my knowledge of Kosovo from February 1998 when I was dealing with Trepca uprising. Brits told me, we have given you political asylum now you have to help us. I refused and left UK permanently.

Then suddenly Racak hoax happened.

You can write your propaganda somewhere else but us who know about these things, are not buying it. Simple as that.

Denis

pre 13 godina

It is disgraceful and despicable to condone and justify any attack on any religious site including the unforgivable act of the desecration of gravesites.

The only clown is the one who does not realize that he dresses and talks like one.
(Jugoslavjia, 5 January 2011 21:26)

So let me get this straight. The desecration of graves is a despicable act, but the digging of graves, and the mass murder and mass cleansing that Serbs executed in Kosovo right in front of this institution (Orth. Church) is NOT? hmm

This sounds like a circus now.

This man shall not speak of anything about politics, considering the heat that revolves around it in the region. It's only fair, no one from the Albanian side does it, but I guess you want the religion to get involed so you can drag the Albanian side into your level of conflict, and portray them as islamic radicals later...old trick of Serbia.

If the High priest wants to practice his religion in Kosovo he should at least be silent and predict the word of God solely, especially considering the history and precedents of this church.

The Albanians never attacked your churches until ur church started participating in their misery and extinction undertakings of the Serbian state.

If your church would have been a place of love and peace for all Kosovo residents, and had done what your state never knew how to do responsibly, (govern the ethnic relations there), maybe we would have had a better and less bitter reality today.

But your priest can hardly wait to stick it to the Albanians, even when there is really no need to aggrivate the conflict further, and he expects love in return??

And Albanians allow this character to preach all this right under their nose.

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

That is one of the way's how the religions are showing slowly there real faith ...corruption ...and more people are being killed everyday in name of religion..SHAME.where is the real GOD ????....

sj

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

Wait a minute. You want to take sides in the conflict but do not want to suffer the consequences? The slaughter and cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo took place right in front of your churches and you clergy.... what the hell did you do to stop it back then, and how have you condemned your passivity?

This is better though, cuz it is a clear reminder for the K-Alb to never accept anything less than independence.
(Denis, 5 January 2011 16:47)

Denis, spoken like a true Muslim when things don’t go your way then use threats and violence and talk about burning churches. On the subject of ethnic cleansing, how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kicked them all out eh?

Semmy

pre 13 godina

Go Serbs! The truth has to go out! Time is on your side....ppl who still other ppl land and country has to be put to the Wright place!... western country are starting to understand what REALLY happen in Kosova, and to tell you the truth, I was one of them who believed everything that media sad about Kosova ....now I know that Kosova is Mafia imaginary semi-country, created by USA in order to achieve easy transport of narcotic/human organs ...SHAME ON YOU NATO for letting this happen!

Denis

pre 13 godina

(Milovanovic, 7 January 2011 20:56)

I get it, so Milosevic was really a creation of K-Albanians, which manipulated the peaceful and just Serbs to keep him in power, although Serbs only, voted him in power over and over again. Serbs had no saying on this K-Alb & US imposed leader.... hmm very charming logic.

Serbia did nothing wrong in Kosovo, indeed it was the Albanians who protested peacefully cuz their autonomy was removed and tanks were rolled in. Albanians are guilty cuz for 10 yrs instead of picking up arms like Slovenians, Croats and Bosnians did to break free , they boycoted Serbian only run institutions in Kosovo where 90% of pop was Albanian.

Serbs didn't really kill or expell anyone in Kosovo or even in ex-Yugo, they are a victim of modern day media, although countless charges have been taken place and proven true not only in Hague but in Serbia itself against Serbian thugs and security forces who killed and expelled at will civilian population.

Albanians put together the most civilized resistance in the region against Serbs, but you prefered force and war instead of peaceful talks.

You bully Albanians now cuz they are poorer and the Ind. status is still on the works. But why don't you go try to bully the Croats, about Krajina for example where Serbs got it way worse than in Kosovo. You don't cuz you know what you will get.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Albanians never wanted peaceful resolution to Kosovo problem. Remember Milosevic came to power in 1987, but you had your uprising since 1981 every spring. ''

So you are saying that albanians rolled tanks in beograd every spring since 1981?

icj1

pre 13 godina

I was approached in 1998 by British Defence to help them with some information about Kosovo, based on my knowledge of Kosovo from February 1998 when I was dealing with Trepca uprising. Brits told me, we have given you political asylum now you have to help us. I refused and left UK permanently.
(Milovanovic, 7 January 2011 20:56)

Ha, ha, ha.... !!!!

L-pz

pre 13 godina

SPC was main architect of the horror of the'90 and brought serbia to his knees. when they going to learn the lesson ,patriacht irnej are you having a laugh?

Milovanovic

pre 13 godina

Albanians put together the most civilized resistance in the region against Serbs, but you prefered force and war instead of peaceful talks.
(Denis, 8 January 2011 00:22)

Albanians never wanted peaceful resolution to Kosovo problem. Remember Milosevic came to power in 1987, but you had your uprising since 1981 every spring.

You never wanted peacefully resolution and you started your strugle much before he came to power.

Why your leaders never wanted to attend meeting organised by Pacoli in 1999 to prevent war? Because they were instructed by the US!

Some Albanians were never peaceful and you know that. Since beginning of 1980/81, you were using rape, threatening and other violent methods to expel Serbs, Montenegrans and other non Albanians from Kosovo.

The reasons why you did not start your arm strugle before was lack of weapons and logisctics from US.

So you can go on some other website and spread your propaganda about peaceful Albanians and your peaceful leader Ibrahim Rugova who never condemned any single atrocity committed by Albanians!

Ha, ha, ha.... !!!!
(icj1, 8 January 2011 05:50)

You can laugh as much as you want, but this has happened in August 1998. British Defense wanted to interview me! They already wanted to attack Serbia in October 1998. Why my knowledge of Kosovo from 1989 would help them I don't know. I refused to talk to them on this issue.

>Demi

pre 13 godina

Stop crying about about somthing that never has happend and ask the question where more than thousand k.albanians are wich since 11 years until today are still missing ??


Why do you speak about fairytales and tryes to hide the real fact?? We albanians don't know what Serbia did to the bodyorgans of our missing relatives. Let's investigate that and not some fairytales coming from belgrade through marty mouse.

Enisa

pre 13 godina

And what about all the crimes committes in kosovo against women, children men by the Serb militaries, paramilitaries? Was the patriarch Irinej awared of all those crimes?

Denis

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

Wait a minute. You want to take sides in the conflict but do not want to suffer the consequences? The slaughter and cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo took place right in front of your churches and you clergy.... what the hell did you do to stop it back then, and how have you condemned your passivity?

This is better though, cuz it is a clear reminder for the K-Alb to never accept anything less than independence.

Mr Q

pre 13 godina

It is a shame how the man of supposinly god makes this kind of political comments.
To be honest with everyone here the claims of organ trade are so unrealistic and unfound. Just think about it what methodology and technology you need to have to make an organ transplant. In any modern hospital in a completely legal way to make a successful organ transplant needs months or preparation and matching and the operation should be held in a highly sterilized environment. The house whatever the colour, in Albania will not even closely fulfil any of the above criteria. The organ transplant is not like swapping a wig or a cloth. You can not expect that an organ from a Serbian peasant to match a recipient in god knows where. It does not work like that. I know that Thaqi is a crook and deserves to be in the prison for the crimes he did to Kosova since he came on the scene but he is in a no way capable to make such arrangements he is not that clever. I would 100% believe if the claims were that Thaqi has tortured Serbs and others and ate their internal organs rather than sold.

Olli

pre 13 godina

If this is alI he speaks about violence and brutality in the Balkans I must say Patriarch Irinej is a shameless coward. If he has no balls to look at the makings of his own beasts can we consider Irinej as some kind of front figure for moral conscience of Christians?

EA

pre 13 godina

He taks like a polititian and should be treated as such. I forgot that "he is immune" like Dick Marty but not on being a senator grounds but being "the Christ on earth"....))

Dragan

pre 13 godina

Thank you Father Irinej, for saying what Tadic does not have the guts to say, for he may upset his friends in Germany and the US.
We all know that this was well known by Nicholas Burns, Holbrooke, Albright, Wesley Clark, and the rest of the Serb hating gang which still runs the Whitehouse. Also it was definitely known by that disgusting Kouchner, and by the Germans - always friends with whomever the Serbs' enemies are. But the truth is coming out, and I am sure they are scared to death of this. I look forward to more from Wikileaks on this, keep it coming!

ida

pre 13 godina

The foreign officials rescued not one kidnapped Serb. In a few cases the Albanians themselves decided to release prisoners, but not in one case did the international community get a single Serbs out of a basement or other illegal prison area. Reports were met with deaf ears, or them washing their hands of it being their responsibility, or feigned attempts at rescue whereby the they would give the Albanians a long time of pre-warning to enable the Albanians to relocate the Serbs (and sometimes Roma and other Albanians they were keeping illegally.)
There was a case of the German contingent finding Roma prisoners at a police station in Prizren. These were let go as the Germans wanted the station, but the Albanians who were caught red-handed torturing the Roma, were walking free on the streets in days.

lids

pre 13 godina

Cold truth has to be told over and over again-there was collective knowledge of these horrific crimes by international community and the madness they brought to KiM,which they had to defend by being silent and letting albanians ethnicly clean majority of Serbians in order to keep the truth from coming out.
Thank god there are people in that same international community with conciense who are not afraid to point the fingers at monsters.

Jugoslavjia

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

(Denis, 5 January 2011 16:47)

It is disgraceful and despicable to condone and justify any attack on any religious site including the unforgivable act of the desecration of gravesites.

The only clown is the one who does not realize that he dresses and talks like one.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

He taks like a polititian and should be treated as such. I forgot that "he is immune" like Dick Marty but not on being a senator grounds but being "the Christ on earth"....))
(EA, 5 January 2011 19:00)
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Are you not ashamed to show your ignorance?
Perhaps you are using cheap shots in the hope of making him look bad but all it shows is just how ignorant and spiteful you really are.

Representative of Christ? Give me a break. Are you perhaps talking about the Pope being a representative of God on earth?
Wrong religion.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"The organ transplant is not like swapping a wig or a cloth. You can not expect that an organ from a Serbian peasant to match a recipient in god knows where."
======================

You're right. His kidney is not educated enough to be put in a body of a rich westerner.

sj

pre 13 godina

What a clown. His comments as many of his predecesors justly aggrivate the hell out the Albanians, and then he says why do they attac the churches.

Wait a minute. You want to take sides in the conflict but do not want to suffer the consequences? The slaughter and cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo took place right in front of your churches and you clergy.... what the hell did you do to stop it back then, and how have you condemned your passivity?

This is better though, cuz it is a clear reminder for the K-Alb to never accept anything less than independence.
(Denis, 5 January 2011 16:47)

Denis, spoken like a true Muslim when things don’t go your way then use threats and violence and talk about burning churches. On the subject of ethnic cleansing, how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kicked them all out eh?

sj

pre 13 godina

(Denis, 6 January 2011 16:35)
Regardless of what you say about your religious beliefs, your statement shows that you have the same tendencies as most fanatical Muslims – you don’t like something you want to burn or kill.
Once again I ask the question how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians?
None because you kicked ALL of them out. Claiming that they all cooperated with Serbs is an idiotic statement. Albanians are the most intolerant people on this planet, period!
Wait till Albanians troops come back from Afghanistan and you’ll see large numbers of Muslim fanatics start to appear in the region.

Milovanovic

pre 13 godina

Albanians put together the most civilized resistance in the region against Serbs, but you prefered force and war instead of peaceful talks.
(Denis, 8 January 2011 00:22)

Albanians never wanted peaceful resolution to Kosovo problem. Remember Milosevic came to power in 1987, but you had your uprising since 1981 every spring.

You never wanted peacefully resolution and you started your strugle much before he came to power.

Why your leaders never wanted to attend meeting organised by Pacoli in 1999 to prevent war? Because they were instructed by the US!

Some Albanians were never peaceful and you know that. Since beginning of 1980/81, you were using rape, threatening and other violent methods to expel Serbs, Montenegrans and other non Albanians from Kosovo.

The reasons why you did not start your arm strugle before was lack of weapons and logisctics from US.

So you can go on some other website and spread your propaganda about peaceful Albanians and your peaceful leader Ibrahim Rugova who never condemned any single atrocity committed by Albanians!

Ha, ha, ha.... !!!!
(icj1, 8 January 2011 05:50)

You can laugh as much as you want, but this has happened in August 1998. British Defense wanted to interview me! They already wanted to attack Serbia in October 1998. Why my knowledge of Kosovo from 1989 would help them I don't know. I refused to talk to them on this issue.

Semmy

pre 13 godina

Go Serbs! The truth has to go out! Time is on your side....ppl who still other ppl land and country has to be put to the Wright place!... western country are starting to understand what REALLY happen in Kosova, and to tell you the truth, I was one of them who believed everything that media sad about Kosova ....now I know that Kosova is Mafia imaginary semi-country, created by USA in order to achieve easy transport of narcotic/human organs ...SHAME ON YOU NATO for letting this happen!

Semmy

pre 13 godina

Go Serbs! The truth has to go out! Time is on your side....ppl who still other ppl land and country has to be put to the Wright place!... western country are starting to understand what REALLY happen in Kosova, and to tell you the truth, I was one of them who believed everything that media sad about Kosova ....now I know that Kosova is Mafia imaginary semi-country, created by USA in order to achieve easy transport of narcotic/human organs ...SHAME ON YOU NATO for letting this happen!

Denis

pre 13 godina

Denis, spoken like a true Muslim when things don’t go your way then use threats and violence and talk about burning churches. On the subject of ethnic cleansing, how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians? NONE!!!…!! Kicked them all out eh?
(sj, 6 January 2011 04:17)

Ohh man, you have no clue how much of a muslim I am (although I do come from a muslim family who never practiced).

In fact I am one of those Albanians who would vote if I had the chance, that all mosques in Albanian populated areas be raised to the ground, and islam be outlawed, cuz I truly believe that islam is(was) a greater danger for the Albanian identity than Serbia itself. How about that, is that "muslim" enough for you?

I have no beef against your priest and church, I just think that it is unwise to get the church involved in this conflict, considering the past.

When you talk about other minorities in Kosovo and the fact that they left after the war due to Albanian anger, you are talking about a reaction, with plenty of precedents in history.

Look what Czechs did to the German population after the WWII. If any of the populations (i.e gypsies, serbs) were perceived as "collaborators" they can't escape the revenge. Not sure what else do you expect?

The question is what did they do when Serbs marched in and killed, burned, and expelled thousands of their K-Alb neigbors, right in front of their eyes.

If you were an Albanian that lost members of his family, property, and was expelled, would you live with these neigbors, who acted as everything was normal during your sufferings?

I don't think so. But I guess first you have to suffer the evils that they have suffered to get a grip of reality, cuz till now you speak out of principle...which is good, but a bit naive.

Denis

pre 13 godina

It is disgraceful and despicable to condone and justify any attack on any religious site including the unforgivable act of the desecration of gravesites.

The only clown is the one who does not realize that he dresses and talks like one.
(Jugoslavjia, 5 January 2011 21:26)

So let me get this straight. The desecration of graves is a despicable act, but the digging of graves, and the mass murder and mass cleansing that Serbs executed in Kosovo right in front of this institution (Orth. Church) is NOT? hmm

This sounds like a circus now.

This man shall not speak of anything about politics, considering the heat that revolves around it in the region. It's only fair, no one from the Albanian side does it, but I guess you want the religion to get involed so you can drag the Albanian side into your level of conflict, and portray them as islamic radicals later...old trick of Serbia.

If the High priest wants to practice his religion in Kosovo he should at least be silent and predict the word of God solely, especially considering the history and precedents of this church.

The Albanians never attacked your churches until ur church started participating in their misery and extinction undertakings of the Serbian state.

If your church would have been a place of love and peace for all Kosovo residents, and had done what your state never knew how to do responsibly, (govern the ethnic relations there), maybe we would have had a better and less bitter reality today.

But your priest can hardly wait to stick it to the Albanians, even when there is really no need to aggrivate the conflict further, and he expects love in return??

And Albanians allow this character to preach all this right under their nose.

Illyria

pre 13 godina

He has forgotten the unnumerous attrocities made by the Serbs.

Looks like he (and many Serbs) are using this so-called organ trade to ease their own conscience for the horrific crimes the Serbs made.

He's an old fool with much religion power over the Serbs who eat of his hand.

That is also the reason why we, The Albanians/Illyriers, will never trust Orthodox priest;

Kosova 4-ever

Ancient Illyria

justhetruth

pre 13 godina

That is one of the way's how the religions are showing slowly there real faith ...corruption ...and more people are being killed everyday in name of religion..SHAME.where is the real GOD ????....

Vuk Valkonen

pre 13 godina

If this is alI he speaks about violence and brutality in the Balkans I must say Patriarch Irinej is a shameless coward.
(Olli, 5 January 2011 17:29)

Olli, on which bases you claim this? You know him? He is not Amfilohije!

Milovanovic

pre 13 godina

Alb tried 10 yrs to negotiate with your kind peacefuly, without firing a bullet, while others were fighting Serbs to death all over Yugo. Yet Alb are the intolerant ones?

(Denis, 7 January 2011 16:44)

Denis, you know that this is complete nonsense. You (K Alb) needed Milosevic in order to achieve secession, Milosevic needed you to stay on power in Serbia. US never wanted to remove Milosevic because of this.

The secessionist leaders, starting with Ibrahim Rugova, had promised them, "Do this, do that and the US will intervene and we will get Kosovo." They had been promising this for years. "Sacrifice your children by boycotting the schools; sacrifice your health by boycotting the hospitals; use your suffering to show foreign public opinion how we suffer under the Serbs, and the U.S. will come to our rescue."

If you watched BBC film about Kosovo, you will see when one of the political leaders (he was part of Kosovo Albanians Ramboulet negotiation team) said that US told them that they have to show to world their suffering and mentioned 5000 dead, as a US suggested trigger to intervene. Same situation as in Srebrenica.

I was approached in 1998 by British Defence to help them with some information about Kosovo, based on my knowledge of Kosovo from February 1998 when I was dealing with Trepca uprising. Brits told me, we have given you political asylum now you have to help us. I refused and left UK permanently.

Then suddenly Racak hoax happened.

You can write your propaganda somewhere else but us who know about these things, are not buying it. Simple as that.

icj1

pre 13 godina

I was approached in 1998 by British Defence to help them with some information about Kosovo, based on my knowledge of Kosovo from February 1998 when I was dealing with Trepca uprising. Brits told me, we have given you political asylum now you have to help us. I refused and left UK permanently.
(Milovanovic, 7 January 2011 20:56)

Ha, ha, ha.... !!!!

Denis

pre 13 godina

Regardless of what you say about your religious beliefs, your statement shows that you have the same tendencies as most fanatical Muslims – you don’t like something you want to burn or kill.
Once again I ask the question how many ethnic Turks or Muslim Roma are left in Kosovo living in harmonious relationship with the Albanians?
None because you kicked ALL of them out. Claiming that they all cooperated with Serbs is an idiotic statement. Albanians are the most intolerant people on this planet, period!
Wait till Albanians troops come back from Afghanistan and you’ll see large numbers of Muslim fanatics start to appear in the region.
(sj, 6 January 2011 23:24)

So how many bosnians are left in hundreds of areas of RS where they used to live? The reaction of Albanians is no different than that of Bosnian Serbs, Bosnians, Croats etc just to give you a few recent examples, but yet the albanians are the most intolerant people? Alb tried 10 yrs to negotiate with your kind peacefuly, without firing a bullet, while others were fighting Serbs to death all over Yugo. Yet Alb are the intolerant ones?

K-Alb agreed to a constitution that gives Serb minority in Kosovo almost equal governing rights, something with no precedent in the region, yet, Alb are the intolerant ones.

Your church, your state, your Academy of Science, has a proven record of anti-Albanian rhetoric, teaching and undertakings (recall many memorandums of Serbian academy of science) yet Alb are the intolrant ones.

Claiming that - all Sudeten Germans cooperated with Nazis - was a nonsense, but yet they were all expelled and thousand killed,.... claiming that all Bosnians of Srebrenica were cooperating with Naser Oric was a non sense but they were all slaughtered (8000 at a time) and expelled, not by irregulars but by a well organized and commanded armed force who is suppose to uphold to the norms of war and civility. Same goes for Kosovo, where your tolerant Serbian solders locked entire families in pizza shops and threw granades inside.

Go preach someone else about tolerance, you are way out of your league here.

L-pz

pre 13 godina

SPC was main architect of the horror of the'90 and brought serbia to his knees. when they going to learn the lesson ,patriacht irnej are you having a laugh?

Denis

pre 13 godina

(Milovanovic, 7 January 2011 20:56)

I get it, so Milosevic was really a creation of K-Albanians, which manipulated the peaceful and just Serbs to keep him in power, although Serbs only, voted him in power over and over again. Serbs had no saying on this K-Alb & US imposed leader.... hmm very charming logic.

Serbia did nothing wrong in Kosovo, indeed it was the Albanians who protested peacefully cuz their autonomy was removed and tanks were rolled in. Albanians are guilty cuz for 10 yrs instead of picking up arms like Slovenians, Croats and Bosnians did to break free , they boycoted Serbian only run institutions in Kosovo where 90% of pop was Albanian.

Serbs didn't really kill or expell anyone in Kosovo or even in ex-Yugo, they are a victim of modern day media, although countless charges have been taken place and proven true not only in Hague but in Serbia itself against Serbian thugs and security forces who killed and expelled at will civilian population.

Albanians put together the most civilized resistance in the region against Serbs, but you prefered force and war instead of peaceful talks.

You bully Albanians now cuz they are poorer and the Ind. status is still on the works. But why don't you go try to bully the Croats, about Krajina for example where Serbs got it way worse than in Kosovo. You don't cuz you know what you will get.

iliri

pre 13 godina

''Albanians never wanted peaceful resolution to Kosovo problem. Remember Milosevic came to power in 1987, but you had your uprising since 1981 every spring. ''

So you are saying that albanians rolled tanks in beograd every spring since 1981?