having being mixed with autocton people of balkans resulting in having similar DNA is NO PROOF OF AUTOCTONICITY.
This should be easy to understand even for Serbs.
You cannot manipulate the presumable mixture with the autoctons to claim yourself being autocton.
If it is so then you should support your southern slavs Macedonians in their strugle to be Macedonians agains your friends the Greeks- to whom the enire world is laughing at.
Now let me educate you and help you learn reading:
read at least the FIRST line: The Slavs invaded Balkans during Justinian I rule (527–565), when eventually up to 100,000 Slavs raided Thessalonica.
what is AUTOCTON here???????????????????????????????
hello?????????????????????
it is precise historical FACT with very accurate dates and numbers.
can you see at least the MAP?????????? theer is a map down there... can you open your eyes for a second (including those 2 lonely neurons)????
I was talking about Galucci, not you. People who worry about a Greater Albania are usually Serbian or Serbian sympathizers - frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 18:58)
Easy to answer: if you live in Toronto it's supremely irrelevant. If in Ohrid, Leskovac or Podgorica, much more worrying,
you are simply incapable to read.
(ben, 5 January 2011 20:41)
I agree with you, I am incapable of reading Enver Hoxha's and your Albanian history. I rather make up my mind on haplogroups distribution among Europeans.
You are more Illyrian than me? In your dreams, mate. But i am Serb not Albanian.
(Milos (K)Obilic, 5 January 2011 14:47)
Milos, Albanians will probably say that anybody can write on Wikipedia. But when Albanian (Ben) recommends link from wikipedia, indicating that Serbs are indigenous people of the Balkans, we have to trust Ben on authenticity of its sources of information.
You made my day Milos. If I was Ben i would not post on this website for a while. Truth can really hurt as we say in Serbian (Istina pogadja).
frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 18:58)
Your Anglo-Saxon pragmatism is not very popular and comprehensible among Blakanik orthodox south slavic provincials :)
"Aha! I assumed that you were talking semantics. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so not up to full speed yet - but what you're actually saying is that because I could even contemplate the concept ofGreater Albania I must be Serbian. Impeccable logic, I must say. "
I was talking about Galucci, not you. People who worry about a Greater Albania are usually Serbian or Serbian sympathizers - frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
Just relax man read your history and you will see that in the Balkans you are emigrants we are AUTOCTONS.
(ben, 5 January 2011 12:41)
From your link Ben:
"The Serbs are part of the autochthonous Dinaric-North Mediterranean anthropological groups."
"Genetic studies conclude that Serbs are of predominantly Balkan genetics (indigenous to the region[23][24]) and have very small amount of generally considered "Slavic" (Predominant in West Slavic nations; R-M458, ranging from 0-12% in the Serbs, Albanians, Macedonians, Greeks and Bulgarians[25]) genes showing that Slavs (White Serbs according to national myth/historical sources[5]) mixed with the Romanized Paleo-Balkan peoples of the conquered region (Serbian lands) and made the Slavic culture and language dominant in the ethnogenesis of the people. Thus, Serbs are mainly descendants of Paleo-Balkan peoples previously known as Dacians, Illyrians and Thracians."
You should first read something before making silly claims.
You are more Illyrian than me? In your dreams, mate. But i am Serb not Albanian.
"Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, just as would Greater Germany, Greater Hungary, Greater Serbia, etc. These euphemisms -Natural Albania, Autochthonous Albania, whatever - are used by no one other than Albanian propagandists, whether paid or amateur."
(Dave, 4 January 2011 21:14)
Exactly. And worth to mention, that all these "greater XXX" ideas miserably failed, with "Greater Germany" being the biggest failure, and "Greater Serbia" the latest.
And I'm sure Galluci didn't learn that from a Serbian textbook. Maybe he learned it from Kurti and his followers?
No news, sure, except for organ trafficking, this all has been know. You just have to read the files from several intelligence services about Kosovo, the KLA, and the leaders there.
But probably, for Thaci, the CIA and the BND are part of the "anti-independence network", too :-)
(Top, 4 January 2011 12:48)
Top,
Would you be so kind as to provide us with a source or link you claim exists of the "files" you referred to above.
It's the reference to the concept that gives him away, not the specific term. Who else worries about the idea besides Serbians, who worry that they will have done unto them what they want to do to others?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 01:30)
Aha! I assumed that you were talking semantics. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so not up to full speed yet - but what you're actually saying is that because I could even contemplate the concept ofGreater Albania I must be Serbian. Impeccable logic, I must say.
Here, Googled at random, an article by two French blokes who are, er, probably Serbian too http://mondediplo.com/2006/07/14albania.
The Amer that used to come on here was quite sensible, even if I didn't agree with some of what he wrote. If you're impersonating him, I suggest you stop because it's out of order.
"Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say."
if that is your pathetic best to smear someone, I think Gallucci's reputation is pretty safe.
Why you hate history that much??? :))
(ben, 4 January 2011 23:00)
We know about Hittites, Scythians, Sumerians, Huns and their connection to Slavic and Ugric folks in the area. We do not consider it a serious thing, even that most of the language questions aren't really questions anymore. We think that the more recent history is rich enough and pulling Sumerian (for Hungarians) or Hittite (for Russians) ancestors out of *ss is not really necessary.
In order to claim Dardanians some has to have a really strong inferiority complex. I am perfectly fine knowing that some of my ancestors wrote the Bible, some wrote the Gilgamesh Epos and some invented the iron and beat the heck out of poor Ramses II. Some others misbehaved strongly in China and Chinese has to build the Great Wall to protect the country. But there is nothing to beat the chest about all this because it wasn't me. Neither with good things (Gilgamesh) nor with bad things (pillaging China).
As for even earlier times: everyone alive today is from certain small area in Africa. No one is autochon in Kosovo or Albania, except Neanderthals. Neanderthals had issue with childbirth, multiplication and some other things - so they slowly disappeared giving place to a much more aggressive species - us.
The "Dardanian-you / Hittite-me" is just part of the plot, this is how that aggressive, horrible ape fights to eliminate other species first (R.I.P. Neanderthals) - than how to establish the dominance within own ranks.
by the day the k-a have to be worried, more and more people are speaking out and this can be seen thru the more and more aggressive comments on this site...
(The Swiss, 4 January 2011 23:35)
Maybe you should look at the news outside of Serbia. It has pretty much shut down. There are only so many ways you can say Dick Marty says it took place without putting forth sometype of evidence.
It is a hot topic in this forum but I thin the rest of the world is taking lets see some proof attitude.
"We are talking about "Enverists" here - minus the communism. Now that is an "achievement" for America - staying behind Comrade Hoxha. I would never think, they can be that low in Washington, DC - but apparently there is nothing low enough what can't be beaten by them.
(Je¿ waszyngtonski, 4 January 2011 22:04) "
It's more than Washington - most Western sources say that the Albanians are probably the descendants of the Illyrians. I'm willing to wait for the final word from the geneticists, who so far agree that they stem from an ancient Indo-European group that has been in the Balkans since ancient times. (The degree of variation at certain sites in the genetic code indicates an ancient grouping, for instance - the more recent a group in an area, the less variation.) Now that there are techniques for comparing ancient DNA to that of living people we have the chance to determine origins directly, rather than through ambiguous archeological and linguistic evidence. Did you know that in Britain they were able to find a direct descendant of a 9000-year-old skeleton ("Cheddar Man") living just up the road from the cave? He said his family had always claimed to have lived in the area for a long time ...
"What? Serbian textbooks don't come into it. Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, ..."
It's the reference to the concept that gives him away, not the specific term. Who else worries about the idea besides Serbians, who worry that they will have done unto them what they want to do to others?
by the day the k-a have to be worried, more and more people are speaking out and this can be seen thru the more and more aggressive comments on this site...
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
(Amer, 4 January 2011 19:53)
Reading the comments on B92 is sufficient. Greatest Most Ancient Dardanian Empire™ is the reality on the ground for way to many "educated" in Enver Hoxha's school system.
Rampant Albanian nationalism is very convenient tool for U.S. administration because it opposes Russian geopolitical interests. That single fact does not make what it is based on any more scientific than during Enver Hoxha.
We are talking about "Enverists" here - minus the communism. Now that is an "achievement" for America - staying behind Comrade Hoxha. I would never think, they can be that low in Washington, DC - but apparently there is nothing low enough what can't be beaten by them.
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
(Amer, 4 January 2011 19:53)
What? Serbian textbooks don't come into it. Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, just as would Greater Germany, Greater Hungary, Greater Serbia, etc. These euphemisms -Natural Albania, Autochthonous Albania, whatever - are used by no one other than Albanian propagandists, whether paid or amateur.
Mr Galucci is wrong!it is not the US who want Haradinaj out of kosovo(they even did save his live indeed when he was wounded).It is Serbia who wants him out of Kosova,and it is Serbia who did accused him and haradinaj,as a freedom fighter, went willingly to hague,unlike your heroes Mladic and karagjic
"-- Not unlike Peter Feith or Christopher Dell. Each side has their "champions" the other side regards as a dim-witted village idiot thrown into the fray by higher ups.
(Mike, 4 January 2011 17:31) "
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
TIRANA - Though the question of children’s exploitation for transplantation of organs and existence of clinics in Albania of secret clinics have been constantly rejected by state’s structures, the Children Rights Advocacy Centre (CRAC) is getting increasingly concerned over this problem.This centre has lately urged the Albanian Parliament to establish an inquiry commission for the collection and verification of all the information available regarding the question of organs trafficking
(Wolfgang Endrich, 4 January 2011 15:52)
--
Yep, Marty has only scratched the surface. Once they start digging this will go deep into the structures of the Albanian and KLA mafia. I've posted this link before but here it is again. This is a report from Albania that alleges organ trafficking of kidnapped children. Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUvOjnwE-Q
"Regardless of the claims about organ trafficking, everyone knows about the involvement of some of the top Kosovo leaders in transnational crime and corruption. International officials ignored these problems so as not to provoke the ethnic Albanians and prevent them from creating even bigger problems," Gallucci stated, according to the newspaper.
-- Wait a minute here. You're throwing the stone and hiding your hand. We're talking about two different kind of beasts all-together here.There are no situations whatsoever that warrant you or anyone to start a sentence with "regardless of the claims about organ trafficking". You can't just throw that under the rug and talk about other $h..t. These are very heavy allegations and whoever makes such allegations and believes them to be true must show the evidence; especially if the person who does so was high UN representative with plenty of access. You have the burden to prove to the rest of the people who do not have the access you had that your belief about Thaci's guilt is based on the evidence you've seen. Show us the evidence before throwing your allegations under the rug and expecting people to just buy into your theory. That's all.
Now onto the other allegations. Since you're a smart man then you should know by now that it is quite a jump to equalize between corrupt international auctions and organ harvesting. If your aim is to do just that; then one could simply jump to the conclusion that since you spent plenty of your time in a nightclub owned by a Serb criminal in N. Mitro, then you've been doing some organ harvesting of your own. If we're to label anyone who committed a crime or was associated with criminals as an organ harvester, then you can't escape that label either. The point is that while it is quite possible that some people might have committed crimes and be corrupt(again evidence needed especially since you were a high UN representative and had access), that does not automatically equal being an organ harvester. If that was the case the Serb state having in engaged in criminal activities and corruption in the last decade is also an organ harvester. See, it is very easy to assume without a single shred of evidence.
"Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???" (ben)
-- Why go back only to homo erectus? Why not go all the way and include the Albanosaurus, or the Illyrian Protoplasm? Why shortchange your historical memory?
"Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph."
(Kosova-USA)
-- Yes yes, that's exactly it. This whole process is actually nothing more than an anti-Albanian smear campaign. The time, money, investigation, media reports; suddenly the world decided mid-December to take leave of their senses and start subscribing to Serbianna.com. And you know what? Even if this proves to be nothing more than a conspiracy theory, Hash played right along making any association with him or his statelet toxic.
"Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say."
(Pejoni)
-- Not unlike Peter Feith or Christopher Dell. Each side has their "champions" the other side regards as a dim-witted village idiot thrown into the fray by higher ups.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
You've got to love these Albo nationalists, really you have. When spurious claims to be Illyrian fail to impress anyone, they change tack and now decide to be man's primitive ancestor instead. Expect the imminent discovery of Albopithecus in the Rrugova gorge.
Albanian politicans know this very well, and they are partner in this buseniss. a old artcile from beginn 2005
CRAC Pushes Govt. to Carry Out Probe Into Organs’ Trafficking
TIRANA - Though the question of children’s exploitation for transplantation of organs and existence of clinics in Albania of secret clinics have been constantly rejected by state’s structures, the Children Rights Advocacy Centre (CRAC) is getting increasingly concerned over this problem.This centre has lately urged the Albanian Parliament to establish an inquiry commission for the collection and verification of all the information available regarding the question of organs trafficking
"I do not expect any improvement in the suspended process of Kosovo's recognition, and I believe that Belgrade's political position in any kind of dialogue with Priština will be strengthened," Gallucci assessed.
Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph.
Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say.
Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph.
(Kosova-USA, 4 January 2011 15:08)
Maybe this was a small side effect. But Thaci with his silly 'anti-independence network' nonsense, the accusations and the Nazi comparison did a good job to make a state affair out of a report about some criminal group and its leaders. He's the one who damages Kosovo most.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
Even Albanians do not believe in your "homo erectus" Enver Hoxha myth.
Of course they knew. Do you honestly think our enemies in our southern province had the capability to do this without help?
At the end of the day, we as people are stronger than you Albanians. Anything you have tried to achieved has failed unless you had Western help.
Look at the Presevo conflict. The only time the West didn't collaborate against us, where it was a 1 on 1 conflict and what happened? You failed. You lost miserably. You were put down by us Serbs, who are your superiors.
Same will happen again, only this time in Kosovo. With a weak Serbian government and the West backing you.. the project you started STILL hasn't been completed and you had well over 10 years now.
What gives? I know, you are weak people. You cannot do this on your own and DESPITE help you cowards still cannot get the job done. If Serbs had this much help and were as bloodthristy as your people, we would of had the entire Balkans under our control.
But don't worry, God is great. You will lose and it has already started. As soon as a responsable gov't in Belgrade comes to power, it is over for you.
"For me banning with violence this unification is threat to stability not letting people deciding freely about their future. "
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
I think people in northern Kosovo decided freely about their future, staying as far away as possible from anything connected with the 'multiethnic' dream state of Kosovo :-)
"It is also common knowledge that, with their desire to create a greater Albania, the Kosovo Albanians have often been a threat to regional stability," Gallucci said.
what an imparsial diplomat is this guy.
Gallucci and others are the one responsable for the flourishing organised crime of Serbs in north Kosova and the instability there.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
For me banning with violence this unification is threat to stability not letting people deciding freely about their future.
We must have different moral values I guss Mr Gallucci.
I was also suprised that Thaci was behind all this. I always thought that he had less blood on his hands compared to Ramush Haradinaj. Also if Americans wanted Haradinaj out of Kosovo, why they did not let him die after he was wounded some years ago? Instead they transfered him to Nato hospital in Germany.
"Regardless of the claims about organ trafficking, everyone knows about the involvement of some of the top Kosovo leaders in transnational crime and corruption. International officials ignored these problems so as not to provoke the ethnic Albanians and prevent them from creating even bigger problems," Gallucci stated, according to the newspaper.
No news, sure, except for organ trafficking, this all has been know. You just have to read the files from several intelligence services about Kosovo, the KLA, and the leaders there.
But probably, for Thaci, the CIA and the BND are part of the "anti-independence network", too :-)
Of course they knew. Do you honestly think our enemies in our southern province had the capability to do this without help?
At the end of the day, we as people are stronger than you Albanians. Anything you have tried to achieved has failed unless you had Western help.
Look at the Presevo conflict. The only time the West didn't collaborate against us, where it was a 1 on 1 conflict and what happened? You failed. You lost miserably. You were put down by us Serbs, who are your superiors.
Same will happen again, only this time in Kosovo. With a weak Serbian government and the West backing you.. the project you started STILL hasn't been completed and you had well over 10 years now.
What gives? I know, you are weak people. You cannot do this on your own and DESPITE help you cowards still cannot get the job done. If Serbs had this much help and were as bloodthristy as your people, we would of had the entire Balkans under our control.
But don't worry, God is great. You will lose and it has already started. As soon as a responsable gov't in Belgrade comes to power, it is over for you.
"For me banning with violence this unification is threat to stability not letting people deciding freely about their future. "
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
I think people in northern Kosovo decided freely about their future, staying as far away as possible from anything connected with the 'multiethnic' dream state of Kosovo :-)
"Regardless of the claims about organ trafficking, everyone knows about the involvement of some of the top Kosovo leaders in transnational crime and corruption. International officials ignored these problems so as not to provoke the ethnic Albanians and prevent them from creating even bigger problems," Gallucci stated, according to the newspaper.
No news, sure, except for organ trafficking, this all has been know. You just have to read the files from several intelligence services about Kosovo, the KLA, and the leaders there.
But probably, for Thaci, the CIA and the BND are part of the "anti-independence network", too :-)
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
Even Albanians do not believe in your "homo erectus" Enver Hoxha myth.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
You've got to love these Albo nationalists, really you have. When spurious claims to be Illyrian fail to impress anyone, they change tack and now decide to be man's primitive ancestor instead. Expect the imminent discovery of Albopithecus in the Rrugova gorge.
I was also suprised that Thaci was behind all this. I always thought that he had less blood on his hands compared to Ramush Haradinaj. Also if Americans wanted Haradinaj out of Kosovo, why they did not let him die after he was wounded some years ago? Instead they transfered him to Nato hospital in Germany.
Just relax man read your history and you will see that in the Balkans you are emigrants we are AUTOCTONS.
(ben, 5 January 2011 12:41)
From your link Ben:
"The Serbs are part of the autochthonous Dinaric-North Mediterranean anthropological groups."
"Genetic studies conclude that Serbs are of predominantly Balkan genetics (indigenous to the region[23][24]) and have very small amount of generally considered "Slavic" (Predominant in West Slavic nations; R-M458, ranging from 0-12% in the Serbs, Albanians, Macedonians, Greeks and Bulgarians[25]) genes showing that Slavs (White Serbs according to national myth/historical sources[5]) mixed with the Romanized Paleo-Balkan peoples of the conquered region (Serbian lands) and made the Slavic culture and language dominant in the ethnogenesis of the people. Thus, Serbs are mainly descendants of Paleo-Balkan peoples previously known as Dacians, Illyrians and Thracians."
You should first read something before making silly claims.
You are more Illyrian than me? In your dreams, mate. But i am Serb not Albanian.
"I do not expect any improvement in the suspended process of Kosovo's recognition, and I believe that Belgrade's political position in any kind of dialogue with Priština will be strengthened," Gallucci assessed.
Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph.
Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph.
(Kosova-USA, 4 January 2011 15:08)
Maybe this was a small side effect. But Thaci with his silly 'anti-independence network' nonsense, the accusations and the Nazi comparison did a good job to make a state affair out of a report about some criminal group and its leaders. He's the one who damages Kosovo most.
Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say.
Albanian politicans know this very well, and they are partner in this buseniss. a old artcile from beginn 2005
CRAC Pushes Govt. to Carry Out Probe Into Organs’ Trafficking
TIRANA - Though the question of children’s exploitation for transplantation of organs and existence of clinics in Albania of secret clinics have been constantly rejected by state’s structures, the Children Rights Advocacy Centre (CRAC) is getting increasingly concerned over this problem.This centre has lately urged the Albanian Parliament to establish an inquiry commission for the collection and verification of all the information available regarding the question of organs trafficking
"Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???" (ben)
-- Why go back only to homo erectus? Why not go all the way and include the Albanosaurus, or the Illyrian Protoplasm? Why shortchange your historical memory?
"Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph."
(Kosova-USA)
-- Yes yes, that's exactly it. This whole process is actually nothing more than an anti-Albanian smear campaign. The time, money, investigation, media reports; suddenly the world decided mid-December to take leave of their senses and start subscribing to Serbianna.com. And you know what? Even if this proves to be nothing more than a conspiracy theory, Hash played right along making any association with him or his statelet toxic.
"Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say."
(Pejoni)
-- Not unlike Peter Feith or Christopher Dell. Each side has their "champions" the other side regards as a dim-witted village idiot thrown into the fray by higher ups.
You are more Illyrian than me? In your dreams, mate. But i am Serb not Albanian.
(Milos (K)Obilic, 5 January 2011 14:47)
Milos, Albanians will probably say that anybody can write on Wikipedia. But when Albanian (Ben) recommends link from wikipedia, indicating that Serbs are indigenous people of the Balkans, we have to trust Ben on authenticity of its sources of information.
You made my day Milos. If I was Ben i would not post on this website for a while. Truth can really hurt as we say in Serbian (Istina pogadja).
"It is also common knowledge that, with their desire to create a greater Albania, the Kosovo Albanians have often been a threat to regional stability," Gallucci said.
what an imparsial diplomat is this guy.
Gallucci and others are the one responsable for the flourishing organised crime of Serbs in north Kosova and the instability there.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
For me banning with violence this unification is threat to stability not letting people deciding freely about their future.
We must have different moral values I guss Mr Gallucci.
"-- Not unlike Peter Feith or Christopher Dell. Each side has their "champions" the other side regards as a dim-witted village idiot thrown into the fray by higher ups.
(Mike, 4 January 2011 17:31) "
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
(Amer, 4 January 2011 19:53)
What? Serbian textbooks don't come into it. Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, just as would Greater Germany, Greater Hungary, Greater Serbia, etc. These euphemisms -Natural Albania, Autochthonous Albania, whatever - are used by no one other than Albanian propagandists, whether paid or amateur.
Mr Galucci is wrong!it is not the US who want Haradinaj out of kosovo(they even did save his live indeed when he was wounded).It is Serbia who wants him out of Kosova,and it is Serbia who did accused him and haradinaj,as a freedom fighter, went willingly to hague,unlike your heroes Mladic and karagjic
by the day the k-a have to be worried, more and more people are speaking out and this can be seen thru the more and more aggressive comments on this site...
TIRANA - Though the question of children’s exploitation for transplantation of organs and existence of clinics in Albania of secret clinics have been constantly rejected by state’s structures, the Children Rights Advocacy Centre (CRAC) is getting increasingly concerned over this problem.This centre has lately urged the Albanian Parliament to establish an inquiry commission for the collection and verification of all the information available regarding the question of organs trafficking
(Wolfgang Endrich, 4 January 2011 15:52)
--
Yep, Marty has only scratched the surface. Once they start digging this will go deep into the structures of the Albanian and KLA mafia. I've posted this link before but here it is again. This is a report from Albania that alleges organ trafficking of kidnapped children. Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUvOjnwE-Q
"Regardless of the claims about organ trafficking, everyone knows about the involvement of some of the top Kosovo leaders in transnational crime and corruption. International officials ignored these problems so as not to provoke the ethnic Albanians and prevent them from creating even bigger problems," Gallucci stated, according to the newspaper.
-- Wait a minute here. You're throwing the stone and hiding your hand. We're talking about two different kind of beasts all-together here.There are no situations whatsoever that warrant you or anyone to start a sentence with "regardless of the claims about organ trafficking". You can't just throw that under the rug and talk about other $h..t. These are very heavy allegations and whoever makes such allegations and believes them to be true must show the evidence; especially if the person who does so was high UN representative with plenty of access. You have the burden to prove to the rest of the people who do not have the access you had that your belief about Thaci's guilt is based on the evidence you've seen. Show us the evidence before throwing your allegations under the rug and expecting people to just buy into your theory. That's all.
Now onto the other allegations. Since you're a smart man then you should know by now that it is quite a jump to equalize between corrupt international auctions and organ harvesting. If your aim is to do just that; then one could simply jump to the conclusion that since you spent plenty of your time in a nightclub owned by a Serb criminal in N. Mitro, then you've been doing some organ harvesting of your own. If we're to label anyone who committed a crime or was associated with criminals as an organ harvester, then you can't escape that label either. The point is that while it is quite possible that some people might have committed crimes and be corrupt(again evidence needed especially since you were a high UN representative and had access), that does not automatically equal being an organ harvester. If that was the case the Serb state having in engaged in criminal activities and corruption in the last decade is also an organ harvester. See, it is very easy to assume without a single shred of evidence.
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
(Amer, 4 January 2011 19:53)
Reading the comments on B92 is sufficient. Greatest Most Ancient Dardanian Empire™ is the reality on the ground for way to many "educated" in Enver Hoxha's school system.
Rampant Albanian nationalism is very convenient tool for U.S. administration because it opposes Russian geopolitical interests. That single fact does not make what it is based on any more scientific than during Enver Hoxha.
We are talking about "Enverists" here - minus the communism. Now that is an "achievement" for America - staying behind Comrade Hoxha. I would never think, they can be that low in Washington, DC - but apparently there is nothing low enough what can't be beaten by them.
Why you hate history that much??? :))
(ben, 4 January 2011 23:00)
We know about Hittites, Scythians, Sumerians, Huns and their connection to Slavic and Ugric folks in the area. We do not consider it a serious thing, even that most of the language questions aren't really questions anymore. We think that the more recent history is rich enough and pulling Sumerian (for Hungarians) or Hittite (for Russians) ancestors out of *ss is not really necessary.
In order to claim Dardanians some has to have a really strong inferiority complex. I am perfectly fine knowing that some of my ancestors wrote the Bible, some wrote the Gilgamesh Epos and some invented the iron and beat the heck out of poor Ramses II. Some others misbehaved strongly in China and Chinese has to build the Great Wall to protect the country. But there is nothing to beat the chest about all this because it wasn't me. Neither with good things (Gilgamesh) nor with bad things (pillaging China).
As for even earlier times: everyone alive today is from certain small area in Africa. No one is autochon in Kosovo or Albania, except Neanderthals. Neanderthals had issue with childbirth, multiplication and some other things - so they slowly disappeared giving place to a much more aggressive species - us.
The "Dardanian-you / Hittite-me" is just part of the plot, this is how that aggressive, horrible ape fights to eliminate other species first (R.I.P. Neanderthals) - than how to establish the dominance within own ranks.
you are simply incapable to read.
(ben, 5 January 2011 20:41)
I agree with you, I am incapable of reading Enver Hoxha's and your Albanian history. I rather make up my mind on haplogroups distribution among Europeans.
"Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, just as would Greater Germany, Greater Hungary, Greater Serbia, etc. These euphemisms -Natural Albania, Autochthonous Albania, whatever - are used by no one other than Albanian propagandists, whether paid or amateur."
(Dave, 4 January 2011 21:14)
Exactly. And worth to mention, that all these "greater XXX" ideas miserably failed, with "Greater Germany" being the biggest failure, and "Greater Serbia" the latest.
And I'm sure Galluci didn't learn that from a Serbian textbook. Maybe he learned it from Kurti and his followers?
"What? Serbian textbooks don't come into it. Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, ..."
It's the reference to the concept that gives him away, not the specific term. Who else worries about the idea besides Serbians, who worry that they will have done unto them what they want to do to others?
"We are talking about "Enverists" here - minus the communism. Now that is an "achievement" for America - staying behind Comrade Hoxha. I would never think, they can be that low in Washington, DC - but apparently there is nothing low enough what can't be beaten by them.
(Je¿ waszyngtonski, 4 January 2011 22:04) "
It's more than Washington - most Western sources say that the Albanians are probably the descendants of the Illyrians. I'm willing to wait for the final word from the geneticists, who so far agree that they stem from an ancient Indo-European group that has been in the Balkans since ancient times. (The degree of variation at certain sites in the genetic code indicates an ancient grouping, for instance - the more recent a group in an area, the less variation.) Now that there are techniques for comparing ancient DNA to that of living people we have the chance to determine origins directly, rather than through ambiguous archeological and linguistic evidence. Did you know that in Britain they were able to find a direct descendant of a 9000-year-old skeleton ("Cheddar Man") living just up the road from the cave? He said his family had always claimed to have lived in the area for a long time ...
by the day the k-a have to be worried, more and more people are speaking out and this can be seen thru the more and more aggressive comments on this site...
(The Swiss, 4 January 2011 23:35)
Maybe you should look at the news outside of Serbia. It has pretty much shut down. There are only so many ways you can say Dick Marty says it took place without putting forth sometype of evidence.
It is a hot topic in this forum but I thin the rest of the world is taking lets see some proof attitude.
"Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say."
if that is your pathetic best to smear someone, I think Gallucci's reputation is pretty safe.
"Aha! I assumed that you were talking semantics. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so not up to full speed yet - but what you're actually saying is that because I could even contemplate the concept ofGreater Albania I must be Serbian. Impeccable logic, I must say. "
I was talking about Galucci, not you. People who worry about a Greater Albania are usually Serbian or Serbian sympathizers - frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
I was talking about Galucci, not you. People who worry about a Greater Albania are usually Serbian or Serbian sympathizers - frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 18:58)
Easy to answer: if you live in Toronto it's supremely irrelevant. If in Ohrid, Leskovac or Podgorica, much more worrying,
It's the reference to the concept that gives him away, not the specific term. Who else worries about the idea besides Serbians, who worry that they will have done unto them what they want to do to others?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 01:30)
Aha! I assumed that you were talking semantics. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so not up to full speed yet - but what you're actually saying is that because I could even contemplate the concept ofGreater Albania I must be Serbian. Impeccable logic, I must say.
Here, Googled at random, an article by two French blokes who are, er, probably Serbian too http://mondediplo.com/2006/07/14albania.
The Amer that used to come on here was quite sensible, even if I didn't agree with some of what he wrote. If you're impersonating him, I suggest you stop because it's out of order.
No news, sure, except for organ trafficking, this all has been know. You just have to read the files from several intelligence services about Kosovo, the KLA, and the leaders there.
But probably, for Thaci, the CIA and the BND are part of the "anti-independence network", too :-)
(Top, 4 January 2011 12:48)
Top,
Would you be so kind as to provide us with a source or link you claim exists of the "files" you referred to above.
frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 18:58)
Your Anglo-Saxon pragmatism is not very popular and comprehensible among Blakanik orthodox south slavic provincials :)
having being mixed with autocton people of balkans resulting in having similar DNA is NO PROOF OF AUTOCTONICITY.
This should be easy to understand even for Serbs.
You cannot manipulate the presumable mixture with the autoctons to claim yourself being autocton.
If it is so then you should support your southern slavs Macedonians in their strugle to be Macedonians agains your friends the Greeks- to whom the enire world is laughing at.
Now let me educate you and help you learn reading:
read at least the FIRST line: The Slavs invaded Balkans during Justinian I rule (527–565), when eventually up to 100,000 Slavs raided Thessalonica.
what is AUTOCTON here???????????????????????????????
hello?????????????????????
it is precise historical FACT with very accurate dates and numbers.
can you see at least the MAP?????????? theer is a map down there... can you open your eyes for a second (including those 2 lonely neurons)????
"It is also common knowledge that, with their desire to create a greater Albania, the Kosovo Albanians have often been a threat to regional stability," Gallucci said.
what an imparsial diplomat is this guy.
Gallucci and others are the one responsable for the flourishing organised crime of Serbs in north Kosova and the instability there.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
For me banning with violence this unification is threat to stability not letting people deciding freely about their future.
We must have different moral values I guss Mr Gallucci.
"I do not expect any improvement in the suspended process of Kosovo's recognition, and I believe that Belgrade's political position in any kind of dialogue with Priština will be strengthened," Gallucci assessed.
Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph.
Of course they knew. Do you honestly think our enemies in our southern province had the capability to do this without help?
At the end of the day, we as people are stronger than you Albanians. Anything you have tried to achieved has failed unless you had Western help.
Look at the Presevo conflict. The only time the West didn't collaborate against us, where it was a 1 on 1 conflict and what happened? You failed. You lost miserably. You were put down by us Serbs, who are your superiors.
Same will happen again, only this time in Kosovo. With a weak Serbian government and the West backing you.. the project you started STILL hasn't been completed and you had well over 10 years now.
What gives? I know, you are weak people. You cannot do this on your own and DESPITE help you cowards still cannot get the job done. If Serbs had this much help and were as bloodthristy as your people, we would of had the entire Balkans under our control.
But don't worry, God is great. You will lose and it has already started. As soon as a responsable gov't in Belgrade comes to power, it is over for you.
Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say.
Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph.
(Kosova-USA, 4 January 2011 15:08)
Maybe this was a small side effect. But Thaci with his silly 'anti-independence network' nonsense, the accusations and the Nazi comparison did a good job to make a state affair out of a report about some criminal group and its leaders. He's the one who damages Kosovo most.
having being mixed with autocton people of balkans resulting in having similar DNA is NO PROOF OF AUTOCTONICITY.
This should be easy to understand even for Serbs.
You cannot manipulate the presumable mixture with the autoctons to claim yourself being autocton.
If it is so then you should support your southern slavs Macedonians in their strugle to be Macedonians agains your friends the Greeks- to whom the enire world is laughing at.
Now let me educate you and help you learn reading:
read at least the FIRST line: The Slavs invaded Balkans during Justinian I rule (527–565), when eventually up to 100,000 Slavs raided Thessalonica.
what is AUTOCTON here???????????????????????????????
hello?????????????????????
it is precise historical FACT with very accurate dates and numbers.
can you see at least the MAP?????????? theer is a map down there... can you open your eyes for a second (including those 2 lonely neurons)????
"For me banning with violence this unification is threat to stability not letting people deciding freely about their future. "
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
I think people in northern Kosovo decided freely about their future, staying as far away as possible from anything connected with the 'multiethnic' dream state of Kosovo :-)
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
Even Albanians do not believe in your "homo erectus" Enver Hoxha myth.
Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???
(ben, 4 January 2011 12:51)
You've got to love these Albo nationalists, really you have. When spurious claims to be Illyrian fail to impress anyone, they change tack and now decide to be man's primitive ancestor instead. Expect the imminent discovery of Albopithecus in the Rrugova gorge.
"Regardless of the claims about organ trafficking, everyone knows about the involvement of some of the top Kosovo leaders in transnational crime and corruption. International officials ignored these problems so as not to provoke the ethnic Albanians and prevent them from creating even bigger problems," Gallucci stated, according to the newspaper.
No news, sure, except for organ trafficking, this all has been know. You just have to read the files from several intelligence services about Kosovo, the KLA, and the leaders there.
But probably, for Thaci, the CIA and the BND are part of the "anti-independence network", too :-)
"Gallucci should explain how unification of lands inhabitated since homo erectus with 90% Albanians joins lands with 98% Albanians would destabilise the region???" (ben)
-- Why go back only to homo erectus? Why not go all the way and include the Albanosaurus, or the Illyrian Protoplasm? Why shortchange your historical memory?
"Right you are Galluci. The whole purpose of Dick's report was exactly what you said on the above paragraph."
(Kosova-USA)
-- Yes yes, that's exactly it. This whole process is actually nothing more than an anti-Albanian smear campaign. The time, money, investigation, media reports; suddenly the world decided mid-December to take leave of their senses and start subscribing to Serbianna.com. And you know what? Even if this proves to be nothing more than a conspiracy theory, Hash played right along making any association with him or his statelet toxic.
"Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say."
(Pejoni)
-- Not unlike Peter Feith or Christopher Dell. Each side has their "champions" the other side regards as a dim-witted village idiot thrown into the fray by higher ups.
"Regardless of the claims about organ trafficking, everyone knows about the involvement of some of the top Kosovo leaders in transnational crime and corruption. International officials ignored these problems so as not to provoke the ethnic Albanians and prevent them from creating even bigger problems," Gallucci stated, according to the newspaper.
-- Wait a minute here. You're throwing the stone and hiding your hand. We're talking about two different kind of beasts all-together here.There are no situations whatsoever that warrant you or anyone to start a sentence with "regardless of the claims about organ trafficking". You can't just throw that under the rug and talk about other $h..t. These are very heavy allegations and whoever makes such allegations and believes them to be true must show the evidence; especially if the person who does so was high UN representative with plenty of access. You have the burden to prove to the rest of the people who do not have the access you had that your belief about Thaci's guilt is based on the evidence you've seen. Show us the evidence before throwing your allegations under the rug and expecting people to just buy into your theory. That's all.
Now onto the other allegations. Since you're a smart man then you should know by now that it is quite a jump to equalize between corrupt international auctions and organ harvesting. If your aim is to do just that; then one could simply jump to the conclusion that since you spent plenty of your time in a nightclub owned by a Serb criminal in N. Mitro, then you've been doing some organ harvesting of your own. If we're to label anyone who committed a crime or was associated with criminals as an organ harvester, then you can't escape that label either. The point is that while it is quite possible that some people might have committed crimes and be corrupt(again evidence needed especially since you were a high UN representative and had access), that does not automatically equal being an organ harvester. If that was the case the Serb state having in engaged in criminal activities and corruption in the last decade is also an organ harvester. See, it is very easy to assume without a single shred of evidence.
frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 18:58)
Your Anglo-Saxon pragmatism is not very popular and comprehensible among Blakanik orthodox south slavic provincials :)
Albanian politicans know this very well, and they are partner in this buseniss. a old artcile from beginn 2005
CRAC Pushes Govt. to Carry Out Probe Into Organs’ Trafficking
TIRANA - Though the question of children’s exploitation for transplantation of organs and existence of clinics in Albania of secret clinics have been constantly rejected by state’s structures, the Children Rights Advocacy Centre (CRAC) is getting increasingly concerned over this problem.This centre has lately urged the Albanian Parliament to establish an inquiry commission for the collection and verification of all the information available regarding the question of organs trafficking
Mr Galucci is wrong!it is not the US who want Haradinaj out of kosovo(they even did save his live indeed when he was wounded).It is Serbia who wants him out of Kosova,and it is Serbia who did accused him and haradinaj,as a freedom fighter, went willingly to hague,unlike your heroes Mladic and karagjic
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
(Amer, 4 January 2011 19:53)
Reading the comments on B92 is sufficient. Greatest Most Ancient Dardanian Empire™ is the reality on the ground for way to many "educated" in Enver Hoxha's school system.
Rampant Albanian nationalism is very convenient tool for U.S. administration because it opposes Russian geopolitical interests. That single fact does not make what it is based on any more scientific than during Enver Hoxha.
We are talking about "Enverists" here - minus the communism. Now that is an "achievement" for America - staying behind Comrade Hoxha. I would never think, they can be that low in Washington, DC - but apparently there is nothing low enough what can't be beaten by them.
TIRANA - Though the question of children’s exploitation for transplantation of organs and existence of clinics in Albania of secret clinics have been constantly rejected by state’s structures, the Children Rights Advocacy Centre (CRAC) is getting increasingly concerned over this problem.This centre has lately urged the Albanian Parliament to establish an inquiry commission for the collection and verification of all the information available regarding the question of organs trafficking
(Wolfgang Endrich, 4 January 2011 15:52)
--
Yep, Marty has only scratched the surface. Once they start digging this will go deep into the structures of the Albanian and KLA mafia. I've posted this link before but here it is again. This is a report from Albania that alleges organ trafficking of kidnapped children. Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUvOjnwE-Q
Why you hate history that much??? :))
(ben, 4 January 2011 23:00)
We know about Hittites, Scythians, Sumerians, Huns and their connection to Slavic and Ugric folks in the area. We do not consider it a serious thing, even that most of the language questions aren't really questions anymore. We think that the more recent history is rich enough and pulling Sumerian (for Hungarians) or Hittite (for Russians) ancestors out of *ss is not really necessary.
In order to claim Dardanians some has to have a really strong inferiority complex. I am perfectly fine knowing that some of my ancestors wrote the Bible, some wrote the Gilgamesh Epos and some invented the iron and beat the heck out of poor Ramses II. Some others misbehaved strongly in China and Chinese has to build the Great Wall to protect the country. But there is nothing to beat the chest about all this because it wasn't me. Neither with good things (Gilgamesh) nor with bad things (pillaging China).
As for even earlier times: everyone alive today is from certain small area in Africa. No one is autochon in Kosovo or Albania, except Neanderthals. Neanderthals had issue with childbirth, multiplication and some other things - so they slowly disappeared giving place to a much more aggressive species - us.
The "Dardanian-you / Hittite-me" is just part of the plot, this is how that aggressive, horrible ape fights to eliminate other species first (R.I.P. Neanderthals) - than how to establish the dominance within own ranks.
"What? Serbian textbooks don't come into it. Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, ..."
It's the reference to the concept that gives him away, not the specific term. Who else worries about the idea besides Serbians, who worry that they will have done unto them what they want to do to others?
It's the reference to the concept that gives him away, not the specific term. Who else worries about the idea besides Serbians, who worry that they will have done unto them what they want to do to others?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 01:30)
Aha! I assumed that you were talking semantics. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so not up to full speed yet - but what you're actually saying is that because I could even contemplate the concept ofGreater Albania I must be Serbian. Impeccable logic, I must say.
Here, Googled at random, an article by two French blokes who are, er, probably Serbian too http://mondediplo.com/2006/07/14albania.
The Amer that used to come on here was quite sensible, even if I didn't agree with some of what he wrote. If you're impersonating him, I suggest you stop because it's out of order.
"-- Not unlike Peter Feith or Christopher Dell. Each side has their "champions" the other side regards as a dim-witted village idiot thrown into the fray by higher ups.
(Mike, 4 January 2011 17:31) "
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
He doesn't increase his credibility by talking about "Greater Albania" - it sounds like he learned his history from Serbian textbooks.
(Amer, 4 January 2011 19:53)
What? Serbian textbooks don't come into it. Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, just as would Greater Germany, Greater Hungary, Greater Serbia, etc. These euphemisms -Natural Albania, Autochthonous Albania, whatever - are used by no one other than Albanian propagandists, whether paid or amateur.
by the day the k-a have to be worried, more and more people are speaking out and this can be seen thru the more and more aggressive comments on this site...
No news, sure, except for organ trafficking, this all has been know. You just have to read the files from several intelligence services about Kosovo, the KLA, and the leaders there.
But probably, for Thaci, the CIA and the BND are part of the "anti-independence network", too :-)
(Top, 4 January 2011 12:48)
Top,
Would you be so kind as to provide us with a source or link you claim exists of the "files" you referred to above.
"We are talking about "Enverists" here - minus the communism. Now that is an "achievement" for America - staying behind Comrade Hoxha. I would never think, they can be that low in Washington, DC - but apparently there is nothing low enough what can't be beaten by them.
(Je¿ waszyngtonski, 4 January 2011 22:04) "
It's more than Washington - most Western sources say that the Albanians are probably the descendants of the Illyrians. I'm willing to wait for the final word from the geneticists, who so far agree that they stem from an ancient Indo-European group that has been in the Balkans since ancient times. (The degree of variation at certain sites in the genetic code indicates an ancient grouping, for instance - the more recent a group in an area, the less variation.) Now that there are techniques for comparing ancient DNA to that of living people we have the chance to determine origins directly, rather than through ambiguous archeological and linguistic evidence. Did you know that in Britain they were able to find a direct descendant of a 9000-year-old skeleton ("Cheddar Man") living just up the road from the cave? He said his family had always claimed to have lived in the area for a long time ...
by the day the k-a have to be worried, more and more people are speaking out and this can be seen thru the more and more aggressive comments on this site...
(The Swiss, 4 January 2011 23:35)
Maybe you should look at the news outside of Serbia. It has pretty much shut down. There are only so many ways you can say Dick Marty says it took place without putting forth sometype of evidence.
It is a hot topic in this forum but I thin the rest of the world is taking lets see some proof attitude.
"Galluci!? Yeah sure we do remember him as a non reliable person who was lost in the space, who spent time in Kosovo but never understood what was going on. It's a kind of man that you buy him a coffee and he says what you want him to say."
if that is your pathetic best to smear someone, I think Gallucci's reputation is pretty safe.
Just relax man read your history and you will see that in the Balkans you are emigrants we are AUTOCTONS.
(ben, 5 January 2011 12:41)
From your link Ben:
"The Serbs are part of the autochthonous Dinaric-North Mediterranean anthropological groups."
"Genetic studies conclude that Serbs are of predominantly Balkan genetics (indigenous to the region[23][24]) and have very small amount of generally considered "Slavic" (Predominant in West Slavic nations; R-M458, ranging from 0-12% in the Serbs, Albanians, Macedonians, Greeks and Bulgarians[25]) genes showing that Slavs (White Serbs according to national myth/historical sources[5]) mixed with the Romanized Paleo-Balkan peoples of the conquered region (Serbian lands) and made the Slavic culture and language dominant in the ethnogenesis of the people. Thus, Serbs are mainly descendants of Paleo-Balkan peoples previously known as Dacians, Illyrians and Thracians."
You should first read something before making silly claims.
You are more Illyrian than me? In your dreams, mate. But i am Serb not Albanian.
"Aha! I assumed that you were talking semantics. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so not up to full speed yet - but what you're actually saying is that because I could even contemplate the concept ofGreater Albania I must be Serbian. Impeccable logic, I must say. "
I was talking about Galucci, not you. People who worry about a Greater Albania are usually Serbian or Serbian sympathizers - frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
I was also suprised that Thaci was behind all this. I always thought that he had less blood on his hands compared to Ramush Haradinaj. Also if Americans wanted Haradinaj out of Kosovo, why they did not let him die after he was wounded some years ago? Instead they transfered him to Nato hospital in Germany.
"Let me assure you, as a native English-speaker, that the concept of a notional country uniting all Albanian peoples would be called Greater Albania anywhere in the world, just as would Greater Germany, Greater Hungary, Greater Serbia, etc. These euphemisms -Natural Albania, Autochthonous Albania, whatever - are used by no one other than Albanian propagandists, whether paid or amateur."
(Dave, 4 January 2011 21:14)
Exactly. And worth to mention, that all these "greater XXX" ideas miserably failed, with "Greater Germany" being the biggest failure, and "Greater Serbia" the latest.
And I'm sure Galluci didn't learn that from a Serbian textbook. Maybe he learned it from Kurti and his followers?
You are more Illyrian than me? In your dreams, mate. But i am Serb not Albanian.
(Milos (K)Obilic, 5 January 2011 14:47)
Milos, Albanians will probably say that anybody can write on Wikipedia. But when Albanian (Ben) recommends link from wikipedia, indicating that Serbs are indigenous people of the Balkans, we have to trust Ben on authenticity of its sources of information.
You made my day Milos. If I was Ben i would not post on this website for a while. Truth can really hurt as we say in Serbian (Istina pogadja).
I was talking about Galucci, not you. People who worry about a Greater Albania are usually Serbian or Serbian sympathizers - frankly, who else would care about a Greater Anything with potentially 6 million people?
(Amer, 5 January 2011 18:58)
Easy to answer: if you live in Toronto it's supremely irrelevant. If in Ohrid, Leskovac or Podgorica, much more worrying,
you are simply incapable to read.
(ben, 5 January 2011 20:41)
I agree with you, I am incapable of reading Enver Hoxha's and your Albanian history. I rather make up my mind on haplogroups distribution among Europeans.
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