Thaci's "Goebbels" comment angers Swiss

And Thaci and his "Drenica Group" thugs must be Adolf Eichmann, Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Himmler or Josef Mengele. Those comparison's are more believable.

There are some obscure politicians in Switzerland who decided to recognised the aberration of a second Albanian state in Kosovo.

It would be good if the other politicians in Switzerland would translate their anger against Thaci into a rethink of that recognition.

It would also be the right thing for them to do.

"Parliamentarians interviewed by Le Matin have said that the remarks were "unacceptable"."

Maybe those remarks are unacceptable in Switzerland, one of the oldest democracies. But it's not unusual for the "young Europeans", the corrupt politicians with ties to criminal groups who manipulate elections.

Just watching and reading the squriming thaci buckle under the obvious guilt he and his nazi followers is refreshing. What's even more amusing is to read the defenders of this ss slime ball attempting to sway the opinions of Serbs on a Serbian website of his innocence.

Who are you trying to convince or sway with your rants? He's guilty, we know it, you know it..and finally..the world is starting to know it. Instead of distancing yourself of this troll, you close ranks.

This guy is going deeper and deeper..

"Political means.. against Marty.." he mention several days ago became mist after a very next interview.., making his own political suicide.

Giving freedom to a such a moron to verbally defend himself is a clear sign of US/NATO sudden ignorance toward him.

We should actually/even be concerned for Thaci's safety now days because there is a great danger that he and others can be executed before any indictment.

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.

What happened to the freedom of religion? Indeed , nazi practices...if Kosovo, followed Swiss example of ''democracy'' orthodox church would be abolished...
(iliri, 3 January 2011 18:57)

Don't worry for us, we are doing quiet fine and have the largest number of foreigners in Europe compared to our population.... when kosovo will be able to claim that, we will be in the next ice age !
As to the other k-a trolls, I agree with you for once, our politicians should not react to these kind of comments coming from a criminal, but rather deny him entrance to our country like we use to have.
Reacting to this nonsense commnent is going down a few levels...
The kosovo image is already so good that by doing so, this criminal is only
adding some more black on to it! Well done...

I said it a while ago, stick a fork in this turkey, he's done. Thaci has managed to put and end to Kosova's independence dreams, and to blacken the image of Albanians even further around the world. Just let him continue, he is doing a far better job for Serbia, than the Serb politicians.

Keep up the good work Thaci. Maybe Switzerland will be the first to revoke recognition if he stays in power.

stolen money. The Swiss only changed their tune when the U.S. got finally fed up started put restrictions on their politicians, Companys and Banks.
(Lenard, 3 January 2011 19:50)

Apart from yourself, do you like anybody else on this planet...
Hopefully you do not have any close or far relatives in my country, because we have only half million of ex Yu countries, it would be a shame for them to work with my potentially nazy compatriotes...

Thaci has proven himself to be a raging lunatic on more than one occasion. Whatever this guy says about anyone or anything shouldn't be taken as offensive but funny. Pathetically funny.

"We should actually/even be concerned for Thaci's safety now days because there is a great danger that he and others can be executed before any indictment."
(ZMAJ, 3 January 2011 19:13)

I would be more concerned for the lives of the witnesses and especially of the persons Thaci put on his so-called 'Marty's helpers list'. Has he already opened the witch hunt, btw.?

Kosovo Albanian PM Hashim Thaci has angered politicians in Switzerland when he compared the Marty report to the Nazi German propaganda of Joseph Goebbels. Swiss are very sensitive about comments like that since they kept the Gold, money of the Nazis and the victims of the Nazis that got deposit it in their banks. The Swiss did not want to return it to the rightful survivors and their descendent's for well over 50 years hoping they would give up or die ,by the Swiss legislated crooked stonewalling. That is how the Swiss economical miracle was funded boys and girls with stolen money. The Swiss only changed their tune when the U.S. got finally fed up started put restrictions on their politicians, Companys and Banks.

One more self-spanking commissioning officer's widow. It's like a BDSM orgy today?

I would be more concerned for the lives of the witnesses and especially of the persons Thaci put on his so-called 'Marty's helpers list'. Has he already opened the witch hunt, btw.?
(Top, 3 January 2011 20:02)

Top, you should know that "people from the list" eats our prison food long time now and that their names were already published by us at the time of their arrest in some very early morning.. You should better be concerned for the people who are not on "easy" Thaci's list.

Don't be concerned about phantom witnessess(Serbian or Albanian gypsies), but, please provide us all a list of single Serb victim that can be prooved organs were taken and shipped to Israel or western europe, and how did organs were transplanted and where??? Joke of the Century.
(Agim Kelmendi, 3 January 2011 21:22)
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You know very well that Berisha will not allow anyone to go near where these victims were buried.
All we have for now is the list of the missing and witnesses saying they know what happened to them. Until Albania allows a thorough investigation (another one is needed because your proof was destroyed) we cannot give you those names.

So you see, stop obstructing the investigation and intimidating and murdering witnesses and we will be able to find ample proof.

And Thaci and his "Drenica Group" thugs must be Adolf Eichmann, Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Himmler or Josef Mengele. Those comparison's are more believable.
(Karanovic, 3 January 2011 17:09)

Tsk, tsk - robot lobotomy will drop by and you will feel sorry for your comment.

their main political party has actually introduced a law that reminds people of Nazi Germany (if a kid commits a crime the entire family is deported)
(KOsova, 4 January 2011 10:57)

I heard that this law was introduced mainly because of the crimes commited by people from Balcan (precisely by Albanians). We have Hungarian friend living in Basel and she told us the way how Albanians behave there, same like in Kosovo.

How you can say such a bad things about Swiss, just remember they are the ones which recognized Kosovo very soon after independence declaration. They even lobbied for years for Kosovo independence. I suppose their interest was once when Kosovo is independent all Kosovo refuges and asylum seekers (including criminals)can return home.

Thaci for sure had account in Swiss bank. If he still has I dont know. That can be easilly checked by authorities.

Marty has spend most of his life in Ticino. And he also knows quite a lot about Pacoli.

It seems that Albanians are 1st Albanians and then humans. Mother Theresa is turning in her grave.

Considering that fact that swiss abolished minarets...Thaci touched some nerve there...that's why they are furious. What happened to the freedom of religion? Indeed , nazi practices...if Kosovo, followed Swiss example of ''democracy'' orthodox church would be abolished...

"It's called freedom of speech. PM Thaci compared Dick to Goebbel not the Swiss nation...remember???"
(KOSO, 3 January 2011 20:54)

It's not freedom of speech, but a simple insult. But yes, he didn't insult the Swiss nation. Just like Marty, in his report, accused only a group of criminals operating in Kosovo, and not "the whole Kosovo", "all Albanians","the NATO, UN and EU", correct? ;-)

It's slightly hypocritical for Albanians to be throwing around the Nazi card at different people and groups of people. Considering the fact that they had the 21st Waffen SS Skanderbeg Mountian Division during WW2 which had one of the worst war crimes track records of any of the SS divisions and was in great part responsible for the small number of Serbs left in Kosovo right after the end of WW2.

I would be more concerned for the lives of the witnesses and especially of the persons Thaci put on his so-called 'Marty's helpers list'. Has he already opened the witch hunt, btw.?
(Top, 3 January 2011 20:02)

Don't be concerned about phantom witnessess(Serbian or Albanian gypsies), but, please provide us all a list of single Serb victim that can be prooved organs were taken and shipped to Israel or western europe, and how did organs were transplanted and where??? Joke of the Century.

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.
(Staff, 3 January 2011 22:13)

Well I already waited about three weeks. I'll wait another two. However it seems that we are going to wait for another 200 years and neither Dick nor Serbia will reveal their mountains of evidence they keep hidden from the justice system.

The diplomatic cluelessness of "Europe's youngest state" is quite breathtaking. Rather than trying to rebutt the content of Marty's report, or even concentrate their venom on its author, the K/Albs, from Thaci downwards, are queueing up to abuse the the people and country who gave them their bridgehead in Western Europe and were amongst the first to recognise their unilateral independence, as though this display of petulant ingratitude will do the cause of "Kosova" anything but harm. What's next, burning the Stars and Stripes on Mother Theresa Street?

Swiss politicians are offended???

My intelligence is offended.

Marty’s report offers no new evidence in the so called human organ trafficking story which was already investigated by:

Hague Tribunal
Albanian authorities
EULEX

Moreover in Marty's report the fact that this story has already been investigated is not mentioned or it is not mentioned what news his report brings in regards to the already known info which again were already investigated by 3 different organisms mentioned above.

Now still someone is offended? I guess then he is not very bright.

LOL

It's called freedom of speech. PM Thaci compared Dick to Goebbel not the Swiss nation...remember???
(KOSO, 3 January 2011 20:54)

We also have the right to comment and criticise...remember???

"Just watching and reading the squriming thaci buckle under the obvious guilt he and his nazi followers is refreshing. "


Dick accused Thaci of taking nazi like measures; and he didn't bother to provide one single shred of evidence. Not even one. I am still waiting. If that is considered fair; then it is more than fair to accuse Dick of taking nazi like measures without providing one single shred of evidence. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


"What's even more amusing is to read the defenders of this ss slime ball attempting to sway the opinions of Serbs on a Serbian website of his innocence. "


-- This is not about defending Thaci at all. The moment the Hague presents an arrest warrant, he'll be sent there on his night pajamas. This is however, is most of all about doing what's right. You cannot arrest and assume someone is guilty because someone decided to write an article. In the world we live in; you have to present evidence in front of a grand jury, and go through the justice system. A tabloid article is about as good as toilet paper. As long as Serbia and Dick refuse to go through the justice system they're as much ss slime balls as the one they make allegations about. Sitting on mountains of evidence and doing nothing about it makes you the lowest of lowest creatures on earth. Defending such attitude isn't that farther away either.

"Who are you trying to convince or sway with your rants? "

--Personally, I could care less about your opinion or that of other Serbs who have already made their minds up without a single shred of evidence being presented to the justice system. This is mainly directed to those who are not poisoned by Serb fairy tales and propaganda; outsiders who have no beef on this issue and who value a fair justice system where solid evidence trumps everything.

"He's guilty, we know it, you know it..and finally..the world is starting to know it. Instead of distancing yourself of this troll, you close ranks."


-- By the looks of it; you're doing some trolling yourself. Somehow you believe you have the authority to speak in the name of others and even in the name of the world. That is major trolling. Nobody needs to close ranks or even distance oneself. The moment Dick and Serbia presents one single evidence to the international justice system and approaches it about solving this issue, is the moment when this healthy skepticism decreases. Until then Dick and Serbia keeps troll; and Thaci keeps trolling. No difference between them whatsoever.

Just watching and reading the squriming thaci buckle under the obvious guilt he and his nazi followers is refreshing. What's even more amusing is to read the defenders of this ss slime ball attempting to sway the opinions of Serbs on a Serbian website of his innocence.

Who are you trying to convince or sway with your rants? He's guilty, we know it, you know it..and finally..the world is starting to know it. Instead of distancing yourself of this troll, you close ranks.
(michael, 3 January 2011 18:35)

Its propaganda, you know it, we know it.
where is the squirming? where is the buckling?

where is the evidence? Where is the Proof? its pitiable how such questions angers Serb apologists so much. you "know" he's guilty? you know nothing. where is the evidence? Where is the Proof?

I find it EXTREMELY interesting that you think anyone is trying to "sway" your opinion... One would think that if you are taking it upon yourself to call him guilty, you would be speaking of Fact... but by your own admission, you are stating an opinion?

dont worry michael, no one is trying to convince you or sway you into anything.

It's a Lie that will acheive NOTHING.

where is the proof? where is the evidence?

are you amused yet?

LOL

It's called freedom of speech. PM Thaci compared Dick to Goebbel not the Swiss nation...remember???

"The comparison is unacceptable and hurtful, Christian Luscher (Lib/GE) was quoted as saying."

Oh really? Take Thaci to Court of Law if you feel so strongly about his comment. It is not in Thacis character to hide after any immunity like Dick Marty did.

You know very well that Berisha will not allow anyone to go near where these victims were buried.
All we have for now is the list of the missing and witnesses saying they know what happened to them. Until Albania allows a thorough investigation (another one is needed because your proof was destroyed) we cannot give you those names.

So you see, stop obstructing the investigation and intimidating and murdering witnesses and we will be able to find ample proof.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011 07:50)

You have neither one of those lists. Albania has officially requested EULEX to investigate in her territory. Certainly, the place of giving names useful for any possible investigation is not B92 comments part. The way to start is cooperation of Serbia with EULEX in this case according to protocol they signed two years ago. The allegation says that persons were killed after their organs were harvested. If they are killed then there is no reason to keep their names in secret because they are not in jeopardy anymore.
Had Serbia posses the ample proof, UNSC would have been informed by now and would authorize ICTY to start this investigation also.
As far as I am concerned I don't care about Thaci. However nobody can be called criminal just because he waged the war against Milosevic. If the proof is destroyed then those who gave such order as well as executors have names.

it´s not only the Swiss who are looking differently on the southern-serbian issue.

we have time, things are going in our direction, and all we have to, will be done.

Serbia will prevail.

just a question of time.

Ummmm, cluelessness means asking people to prove a negative. (KOsova, 4 January 2011 15:40)

What, as in "prove you don't know where Mladic is?" Welcome to the world of international criminal justice in the Balkans. It's taken a while to get round to your turn but you'll now have plenty of time to get used to this sort of procedure.

Had Serbia posses the ample proof, UNSC would have been informed by now and would authorize ICTY to start this investigation also.
As far as I am concerned I don't care about Thaci. However nobody can be called criminal just because he waged the war against Milosevic. If the proof is destroyed then those who gave such order as well as executors have names.
(Simpatiku, 4 January 2011 14:44)
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It was the ICTY who had evidence and ordered it to be destroyed, so please stop with this rubbish if Serbia had proof.
The evidence was destroyed at the request of Hague so no, nobody is going down because of it.

Nobody can be called a criminal because he waged a war against Milosevic? Where did you read that this is the reason Thaci is called a criminal? Please do answer this one if you don't answer anything else from now on. Where has anyone accused Thaci of being a criminal for waging a war against Milosevic?

I find it really irritating that you guys twist everything in order to escape the truth or divert to something else totally ridiculous in order to escape dealing with what's actually being discussed.

Being irritating will not help you escape justice.

Thaci's "Goebbels" comment angers Swiss


Very good!

CONGRATULATIONS TO MR THACI HE HAS THE STRENGH TO MAKE SUCH SPEECH AGAINST SWISS /EUROPE i think that serbians have to learn from him, they only one say : ja jawohl bitte

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.
(Staff, 3 January 2011 22:13)

With your track record on accuracy, I think it is safe to assume that there will never be any new evidence uncovered.

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.
(Staff, 3 January 2011 22:13)

According to what sources? Please don't tell me you are giving salaries to the same sources that told you about final verdict of ICJ.

It's slightly hypocritical for Albanians to be throwing around the Nazi card at different people and groups of people. Considering the fact that they had the 21st Waffen SS Skanderbeg Mountian Division during WW2 which had one of the worst war crimes track records of any of the SS divisions and was in great part responsible for the small number of Serbs left in Kosovo right after the end of WW2.
(Andrija, 4 January 2011 16:05)

It would be exactly hypocritical if it was true that only albanians had such units like you mentioned. Majority of albanians were against nazism and fascism and many of them took part in fighting against them along with serbs and many others. It is insulting to comment something like you did. Serbia that time had Nazi puppet regime as well who sent serbs to fight against russians. Should I say now that just because of that happening all serbs supported nazi Germany? We can not let the apathy over our ability to think reasonably.
Honestly saying Thaci is not supposed to do such comparisons. Instead, Thaci should bring up clear facts that would refute Marty's report.

....and we will be able to find ample proof.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011 07:50)

Good for you peggy, for confirming there is no proof.

Good, hashim, but the "dick's" report is even worst: like TANJUG propaganda.

"The diplomatic cluelessness of "Europe's youngest state" is quite breathtaking. Rather than trying to rebutt the content of Marty's report"

Ummmm, cluelessness means asking people to prove a negative. Dick Marty must prove the allegations, not the other way around.

The Swiss are very sensitive to "nazi" label: one they funded the Nazis during WWII and prolonged the war by years.
Two, they tried to even keep the Jewish money, and three, their main political party has actually introduced a law that reminds people of Nazi Germany (if a kid commits a crime the entire family is deported)

But I laugh at these idiots: it's hurtful? Ya think? Wait until Dick is totally unmasked and then you will see. Don't accuse people without evidence.

P.S. Even Bin Laden had (and probably still has) a bank account. Let's not even talk about African dictators, Pablo Escobars etc etc. That's how much they care about crime.

it´s not only the Swiss who are looking differently on the southern-serbian issue.

we have time, things are going in our direction, and all we have to, will be done.

Serbia will prevail.

just a question of time.
(Jovan, 4 January 2011 22:27)

And of course you see these stuff on your cristal ball.

swiss people are so sensitive,!May be just as much as the drenica group who is accused by swiss without problem of being killers...So swiss are just tasting how it looks to be accused ,even if in the case of swiss a lot of jewish people were handed over to germans and were killed,thanks to their contribution,and were used as cobaye by Dr Mengele.Did swiss Parlament investgate and condamn these handing over to SS?(they were more than the alleged 500serbian victim in albania)

You know very well that Berisha will not allow anyone to go near where these victims were buried.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011)

Just like he did in 1999 when he was president of Albania?

It was the ICTY who had evidence and ordered it to be destroyed, so please stop with this rubbish if Serbia had proof.
The evidence was destroyed at the request of Hague so no, nobody is going down because of it.

Nobody can be called a criminal because he waged a war against Milosevic? Where did you read that this is the reason Thaci is called a criminal? Please do answer this one if you don't answer anything else from now on. Where has anyone accused Thaci of being a criminal for waging a war against Milosevic?

I find it really irritating that you guys twist everything in order to escape the truth or divert to something else totally ridiculous in order to escape dealing with what's actually being discussed.

Being irritating will not help you escape justice.
(peggy, 4 January 2011 21:14)

It was Carla Del Ponte who said ICTY has ordered the evidence to be destroyed which does not mean that is true giving the fact that she mentioned no name of who was that person from ICTY ordering it.
Where did I read that Thaci is criminal just because waging war against Milosevic? How about "land stealing" that you put here very often? How can I steal my home where I was born?
I am trying to twist nothing. Like I said: As far as I am concerned Thaci can go to prison right at this moment if that terrible crime has happened and if he was the one who ordered it.
So far both you and I know nothing more than what Marty has said (assumption as he personally admitted) and what newspapers are saying.
Irritation and sarcasm does not help here but credible investigation does.
Why Serbia does not officially request that from UNSC and other international bodies? This should irritate you, not my honest comment.
Meantime, unlike you, I am not ready to call anyone guilty with no proof published just because you say so. This can be irritating to you but I can do nothing about that. Can you?

"Where did I read that Thaci is criminal just because waging war against Milosevic? How about "land stealing" that you put here very often? How can I steal my home where I was born?"
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Again I ask you,where did you read that Thaci is considered a criminal because he waged war on Milosevic? What has your answer got to do with the question?

Nobody is saying that your house is not your own. Nobody is accusing Albanians of stealing houses they live in. What I am accusing Thaci is theft of entire Kosovo in the sense that he has no right to appoint himself anything since Kosovo is Serbia and only position Thaci can hold there is within the boundaries of Serbian law.

Gee, I hope I have made myself very clear now. Again, please stop twisting what I say to suit your warped agenda.

....and we will be able to find ample proof.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011 07:50)

Good for you peggy, for confirming there is no proof.
(AdamNYC, 4 January 2011 22:56)
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I didn't say there was NO proof at all.
We just need to get more.
Pity the good stuff was destroyed by Germany but we have enough to start a serious discussion.

What I am accusing Thaci is theft of entire Kosovo in the sense that he has no right to appoint himself anything since Kosovo is Serbia and only position Thaci can hold there is within the boundaries of Serbian law.

Gee, I hope I have made myself very clear now. Again, please stop twisting what I say to suit your warped agenda.
(Peggy, 5 January 2011 11:16)

Kosovo is Serbia according to you. Kosovo is independent according to Thaci, me and majority of population. We are not expected to abide to Serbian law.
And again. I have read that Thaci is criminal for waging war against Milosevic in the comments here.
I am not twisting anything yours. I made my comment already.

I was shock when I herd for a first time that all nice stuff about Kosova ppl and all the victims are actually media manipulation from western media in order to push Kosova independence...how naive I was...poor Serbia ppl, western media helped other ppl to occupy their country, kill them and then put all the blame on them...but truth always come out!

@ben:

benny-boy...don´t you have something better to contribute?

come on, I know you can do that better...

of course there is no crystal ball needed, it´s only that your obsession makes you blind for what is obvious.

do you really think that it is in your greater-albanian interest that the Swiss are "not amused" about these really stupid comparisons made by your oh-so-smart snake-hero?
( oh by the way, some days ago some rather naive albanian has been bragging about how snakes are seen in the albanian culture - well, it´s too bad that you simply cannot get it straight that the snake is a thorougly negative symbol in almost every other culture, especially when you look at european and christian culture(s). so being proud of idolizing snakes here, couldn´t be more stupid.)

well, there are some other things I would worry about, if I were in your shoes.

I think it is no coincidence that a little piece of sand in the middle east, under western patronage "recognized" the greater-albanian freak-creation on serbian territory.

I´d say that there is something like a pattern to this.

since there is trouble coming up for your cause, the masterminds in the US foreign office had no other choice to draw that card in this rather ugly situation for you...

but, these cards are limited. and while you are blind to see that things are getting worse for you, all you´ve got to do is to phantasize about "crystal balls"...

well, go on, I see it as a kind of "entertainment"...

we could even call it "edutainment", since we are entertained and you will learn something in the future... =)

and, you won´t need crystal balls to realize what that means.

Swiss politicians are offended???

My intelligence is offended.

Marty’s report offers no new evidence in the so called human organ trafficking story which was already investigated by:

Hague Tribunal
Albanian authorities
EULEX

Moreover in Marty's report the fact that this story has already been investigated is not mentioned or it is not mentioned what news his report brings in regards to the already known info which again were already investigated by 3 different organisms mentioned above.

Now still someone is offended? I guess then he is not very bright.

Considering that fact that swiss abolished minarets...Thaci touched some nerve there...that's why they are furious. What happened to the freedom of religion? Indeed , nazi practices...if Kosovo, followed Swiss example of ''democracy'' orthodox church would be abolished...

I would be more concerned for the lives of the witnesses and especially of the persons Thaci put on his so-called 'Marty's helpers list'. Has he already opened the witch hunt, btw.?
(Top, 3 January 2011 20:02)

Don't be concerned about phantom witnessess(Serbian or Albanian gypsies), but, please provide us all a list of single Serb victim that can be prooved organs were taken and shipped to Israel or western europe, and how did organs were transplanted and where??? Joke of the Century.

"The comparison is unacceptable and hurtful, Christian Luscher (Lib/GE) was quoted as saying."

Oh really? Take Thaci to Court of Law if you feel so strongly about his comment. It is not in Thacis character to hide after any immunity like Dick Marty did.

CONGRATULATIONS TO MR THACI HE HAS THE STRENGH TO MAKE SUCH SPEECH AGAINST SWISS /EUROPE i think that serbians have to learn from him, they only one say : ja jawohl bitte

LOL

It's called freedom of speech. PM Thaci compared Dick to Goebbel not the Swiss nation...remember???

Just watching and reading the squriming thaci buckle under the obvious guilt he and his nazi followers is refreshing. What's even more amusing is to read the defenders of this ss slime ball attempting to sway the opinions of Serbs on a Serbian website of his innocence.

Who are you trying to convince or sway with your rants? He's guilty, we know it, you know it..and finally..the world is starting to know it. Instead of distancing yourself of this troll, you close ranks.
(michael, 3 January 2011 18:35)

Its propaganda, you know it, we know it.
where is the squirming? where is the buckling?

where is the evidence? Where is the Proof? its pitiable how such questions angers Serb apologists so much. you "know" he's guilty? you know nothing. where is the evidence? Where is the Proof?

I find it EXTREMELY interesting that you think anyone is trying to "sway" your opinion... One would think that if you are taking it upon yourself to call him guilty, you would be speaking of Fact... but by your own admission, you are stating an opinion?

dont worry michael, no one is trying to convince you or sway you into anything.

It's a Lie that will acheive NOTHING.

where is the proof? where is the evidence?

are you amused yet?

"Just watching and reading the squriming thaci buckle under the obvious guilt he and his nazi followers is refreshing. "


Dick accused Thaci of taking nazi like measures; and he didn't bother to provide one single shred of evidence. Not even one. I am still waiting. If that is considered fair; then it is more than fair to accuse Dick of taking nazi like measures without providing one single shred of evidence. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


"What's even more amusing is to read the defenders of this ss slime ball attempting to sway the opinions of Serbs on a Serbian website of his innocence. "


-- This is not about defending Thaci at all. The moment the Hague presents an arrest warrant, he'll be sent there on his night pajamas. This is however, is most of all about doing what's right. You cannot arrest and assume someone is guilty because someone decided to write an article. In the world we live in; you have to present evidence in front of a grand jury, and go through the justice system. A tabloid article is about as good as toilet paper. As long as Serbia and Dick refuse to go through the justice system they're as much ss slime balls as the one they make allegations about. Sitting on mountains of evidence and doing nothing about it makes you the lowest of lowest creatures on earth. Defending such attitude isn't that farther away either.

"Who are you trying to convince or sway with your rants? "

--Personally, I could care less about your opinion or that of other Serbs who have already made their minds up without a single shred of evidence being presented to the justice system. This is mainly directed to those who are not poisoned by Serb fairy tales and propaganda; outsiders who have no beef on this issue and who value a fair justice system where solid evidence trumps everything.

"He's guilty, we know it, you know it..and finally..the world is starting to know it. Instead of distancing yourself of this troll, you close ranks."


-- By the looks of it; you're doing some trolling yourself. Somehow you believe you have the authority to speak in the name of others and even in the name of the world. That is major trolling. Nobody needs to close ranks or even distance oneself. The moment Dick and Serbia presents one single evidence to the international justice system and approaches it about solving this issue, is the moment when this healthy skepticism decreases. Until then Dick and Serbia keeps troll; and Thaci keeps trolling. No difference between them whatsoever.

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.
(Staff, 3 January 2011 22:13)

Well I already waited about three weeks. I'll wait another two. However it seems that we are going to wait for another 200 years and neither Dick nor Serbia will reveal their mountains of evidence they keep hidden from the justice system.

"Parliamentarians interviewed by Le Matin have said that the remarks were "unacceptable"."

Maybe those remarks are unacceptable in Switzerland, one of the oldest democracies. But it's not unusual for the "young Europeans", the corrupt politicians with ties to criminal groups who manipulate elections.

"We should actually/even be concerned for Thaci's safety now days because there is a great danger that he and others can be executed before any indictment."
(ZMAJ, 3 January 2011 19:13)

I would be more concerned for the lives of the witnesses and especially of the persons Thaci put on his so-called 'Marty's helpers list'. Has he already opened the witch hunt, btw.?

Kosovo Albanian PM Hashim Thaci has angered politicians in Switzerland when he compared the Marty report to the Nazi German propaganda of Joseph Goebbels. Swiss are very sensitive about comments like that since they kept the Gold, money of the Nazis and the victims of the Nazis that got deposit it in their banks. The Swiss did not want to return it to the rightful survivors and their descendent's for well over 50 years hoping they would give up or die ,by the Swiss legislated crooked stonewalling. That is how the Swiss economical miracle was funded boys and girls with stolen money. The Swiss only changed their tune when the U.S. got finally fed up started put restrictions on their politicians, Companys and Banks.

And Thaci and his "Drenica Group" thugs must be Adolf Eichmann, Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Himmler or Josef Mengele. Those comparison's are more believable.
(Karanovic, 3 January 2011 17:09)

Tsk, tsk - robot lobotomy will drop by and you will feel sorry for your comment.

Good, hashim, but the "dick's" report is even worst: like TANJUG propaganda.

The Swiss are very sensitive to "nazi" label: one they funded the Nazis during WWII and prolonged the war by years.
Two, they tried to even keep the Jewish money, and three, their main political party has actually introduced a law that reminds people of Nazi Germany (if a kid commits a crime the entire family is deported)

But I laugh at these idiots: it's hurtful? Ya think? Wait until Dick is totally unmasked and then you will see. Don't accuse people without evidence.

P.S. Even Bin Laden had (and probably still has) a bank account. Let's not even talk about African dictators, Pablo Escobars etc etc. That's how much they care about crime.

And Thaci and his "Drenica Group" thugs must be Adolf Eichmann, Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Himmler or Josef Mengele. Those comparison's are more believable.

There are some obscure politicians in Switzerland who decided to recognised the aberration of a second Albanian state in Kosovo.

It would be good if the other politicians in Switzerland would translate their anger against Thaci into a rethink of that recognition.

It would also be the right thing for them to do.

Thaci's "Goebbels" comment angers Swiss


Very good!

stolen money. The Swiss only changed their tune when the U.S. got finally fed up started put restrictions on their politicians, Companys and Banks.
(Lenard, 3 January 2011 19:50)

Apart from yourself, do you like anybody else on this planet...
Hopefully you do not have any close or far relatives in my country, because we have only half million of ex Yu countries, it would be a shame for them to work with my potentially nazy compatriotes...

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.
(Staff, 3 January 2011 22:13)

According to what sources? Please don't tell me you are giving salaries to the same sources that told you about final verdict of ICJ.

swiss people are so sensitive,!May be just as much as the drenica group who is accused by swiss without problem of being killers...So swiss are just tasting how it looks to be accused ,even if in the case of swiss a lot of jewish people were handed over to germans and were killed,thanks to their contribution,and were used as cobaye by Dr Mengele.Did swiss Parlament investgate and condamn these handing over to SS?(they were more than the alleged 500serbian victim in albania)

Just watching and reading the squriming thaci buckle under the obvious guilt he and his nazi followers is refreshing. What's even more amusing is to read the defenders of this ss slime ball attempting to sway the opinions of Serbs on a Serbian website of his innocence.

Who are you trying to convince or sway with your rants? He's guilty, we know it, you know it..and finally..the world is starting to know it. Instead of distancing yourself of this troll, you close ranks.

Keep up the good work Thaci. Maybe Switzerland will be the first to revoke recognition if he stays in power.

I said it a while ago, stick a fork in this turkey, he's done. Thaci has managed to put and end to Kosova's independence dreams, and to blacken the image of Albanians even further around the world. Just let him continue, he is doing a far better job for Serbia, than the Serb politicians.

What happened to the freedom of religion? Indeed , nazi practices...if Kosovo, followed Swiss example of ''democracy'' orthodox church would be abolished...
(iliri, 3 January 2011 18:57)

Don't worry for us, we are doing quiet fine and have the largest number of foreigners in Europe compared to our population.... when kosovo will be able to claim that, we will be in the next ice age !
As to the other k-a trolls, I agree with you for once, our politicians should not react to these kind of comments coming from a criminal, but rather deny him entrance to our country like we use to have.
Reacting to this nonsense commnent is going down a few levels...
The kosovo image is already so good that by doing so, this criminal is only
adding some more black on to it! Well done...

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.
(Staff, 3 January 2011 22:13)

With your track record on accuracy, I think it is safe to assume that there will never be any new evidence uncovered.

This guy is going deeper and deeper..

"Political means.. against Marty.." he mention several days ago became mist after a very next interview.., making his own political suicide.

Giving freedom to a such a moron to verbally defend himself is a clear sign of US/NATO sudden ignorance toward him.

We should actually/even be concerned for Thaci's safety now days because there is a great danger that he and others can be executed before any indictment.

"The diplomatic cluelessness of "Europe's youngest state" is quite breathtaking. Rather than trying to rebutt the content of Marty's report"

Ummmm, cluelessness means asking people to prove a negative. Dick Marty must prove the allegations, not the other way around.

Thaci has proven himself to be a raging lunatic on more than one occasion. Whatever this guy says about anyone or anything shouldn't be taken as offensive but funny. Pathetically funny.

There will be a huge investigation coming up. There are more proof than first believed. Wait two weeks.

You know very well that Berisha will not allow anyone to go near where these victims were buried.
All we have for now is the list of the missing and witnesses saying they know what happened to them. Until Albania allows a thorough investigation (another one is needed because your proof was destroyed) we cannot give you those names.

So you see, stop obstructing the investigation and intimidating and murdering witnesses and we will be able to find ample proof.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011 07:50)

You have neither one of those lists. Albania has officially requested EULEX to investigate in her territory. Certainly, the place of giving names useful for any possible investigation is not B92 comments part. The way to start is cooperation of Serbia with EULEX in this case according to protocol they signed two years ago. The allegation says that persons were killed after their organs were harvested. If they are killed then there is no reason to keep their names in secret because they are not in jeopardy anymore.
Had Serbia posses the ample proof, UNSC would have been informed by now and would authorize ICTY to start this investigation also.
As far as I am concerned I don't care about Thaci. However nobody can be called criminal just because he waged the war against Milosevic. If the proof is destroyed then those who gave such order as well as executors have names.

It's slightly hypocritical for Albanians to be throwing around the Nazi card at different people and groups of people. Considering the fact that they had the 21st Waffen SS Skanderbeg Mountian Division during WW2 which had one of the worst war crimes track records of any of the SS divisions and was in great part responsible for the small number of Serbs left in Kosovo right after the end of WW2.
(Andrija, 4 January 2011 16:05)

It would be exactly hypocritical if it was true that only albanians had such units like you mentioned. Majority of albanians were against nazism and fascism and many of them took part in fighting against them along with serbs and many others. It is insulting to comment something like you did. Serbia that time had Nazi puppet regime as well who sent serbs to fight against russians. Should I say now that just because of that happening all serbs supported nazi Germany? We can not let the apathy over our ability to think reasonably.
Honestly saying Thaci is not supposed to do such comparisons. Instead, Thaci should bring up clear facts that would refute Marty's report.

One more self-spanking commissioning officer's widow. It's like a BDSM orgy today?

....and we will be able to find ample proof.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011 07:50)

Good for you peggy, for confirming there is no proof.

You know very well that Berisha will not allow anyone to go near where these victims were buried.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011)

Just like he did in 1999 when he was president of Albania?

I would be more concerned for the lives of the witnesses and especially of the persons Thaci put on his so-called 'Marty's helpers list'. Has he already opened the witch hunt, btw.?
(Top, 3 January 2011 20:02)

Top, you should know that "people from the list" eats our prison food long time now and that their names were already published by us at the time of their arrest in some very early morning.. You should better be concerned for the people who are not on "easy" Thaci's list.

It's slightly hypocritical for Albanians to be throwing around the Nazi card at different people and groups of people. Considering the fact that they had the 21st Waffen SS Skanderbeg Mountian Division during WW2 which had one of the worst war crimes track records of any of the SS divisions and was in great part responsible for the small number of Serbs left in Kosovo right after the end of WW2.

their main political party has actually introduced a law that reminds people of Nazi Germany (if a kid commits a crime the entire family is deported)
(KOsova, 4 January 2011 10:57)

I heard that this law was introduced mainly because of the crimes commited by people from Balcan (precisely by Albanians). We have Hungarian friend living in Basel and she told us the way how Albanians behave there, same like in Kosovo.

How you can say such a bad things about Swiss, just remember they are the ones which recognized Kosovo very soon after independence declaration. They even lobbied for years for Kosovo independence. I suppose their interest was once when Kosovo is independent all Kosovo refuges and asylum seekers (including criminals)can return home.

Thaci for sure had account in Swiss bank. If he still has I dont know. That can be easilly checked by authorities.

Marty has spend most of his life in Ticino. And he also knows quite a lot about Pacoli.

It seems that Albanians are 1st Albanians and then humans. Mother Theresa is turning in her grave.

Ummmm, cluelessness means asking people to prove a negative. (KOsova, 4 January 2011 15:40)

What, as in "prove you don't know where Mladic is?" Welcome to the world of international criminal justice in the Balkans. It's taken a while to get round to your turn but you'll now have plenty of time to get used to this sort of procedure.

It was the ICTY who had evidence and ordered it to be destroyed, so please stop with this rubbish if Serbia had proof.
The evidence was destroyed at the request of Hague so no, nobody is going down because of it.

Nobody can be called a criminal because he waged a war against Milosevic? Where did you read that this is the reason Thaci is called a criminal? Please do answer this one if you don't answer anything else from now on. Where has anyone accused Thaci of being a criminal for waging a war against Milosevic?

I find it really irritating that you guys twist everything in order to escape the truth or divert to something else totally ridiculous in order to escape dealing with what's actually being discussed.

Being irritating will not help you escape justice.
(peggy, 4 January 2011 21:14)

It was Carla Del Ponte who said ICTY has ordered the evidence to be destroyed which does not mean that is true giving the fact that she mentioned no name of who was that person from ICTY ordering it.
Where did I read that Thaci is criminal just because waging war against Milosevic? How about "land stealing" that you put here very often? How can I steal my home where I was born?
I am trying to twist nothing. Like I said: As far as I am concerned Thaci can go to prison right at this moment if that terrible crime has happened and if he was the one who ordered it.
So far both you and I know nothing more than what Marty has said (assumption as he personally admitted) and what newspapers are saying.
Irritation and sarcasm does not help here but credible investigation does.
Why Serbia does not officially request that from UNSC and other international bodies? This should irritate you, not my honest comment.
Meantime, unlike you, I am not ready to call anyone guilty with no proof published just because you say so. This can be irritating to you but I can do nothing about that. Can you?

Don't be concerned about phantom witnessess(Serbian or Albanian gypsies), but, please provide us all a list of single Serb victim that can be prooved organs were taken and shipped to Israel or western europe, and how did organs were transplanted and where??? Joke of the Century.
(Agim Kelmendi, 3 January 2011 21:22)
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You know very well that Berisha will not allow anyone to go near where these victims were buried.
All we have for now is the list of the missing and witnesses saying they know what happened to them. Until Albania allows a thorough investigation (another one is needed because your proof was destroyed) we cannot give you those names.

So you see, stop obstructing the investigation and intimidating and murdering witnesses and we will be able to find ample proof.

it´s not only the Swiss who are looking differently on the southern-serbian issue.

we have time, things are going in our direction, and all we have to, will be done.

Serbia will prevail.

just a question of time.

"It's called freedom of speech. PM Thaci compared Dick to Goebbel not the Swiss nation...remember???"
(KOSO, 3 January 2011 20:54)

It's not freedom of speech, but a simple insult. But yes, he didn't insult the Swiss nation. Just like Marty, in his report, accused only a group of criminals operating in Kosovo, and not "the whole Kosovo", "all Albanians","the NATO, UN and EU", correct? ;-)

The diplomatic cluelessness of "Europe's youngest state" is quite breathtaking. Rather than trying to rebutt the content of Marty's report, or even concentrate their venom on its author, the K/Albs, from Thaci downwards, are queueing up to abuse the the people and country who gave them their bridgehead in Western Europe and were amongst the first to recognise their unilateral independence, as though this display of petulant ingratitude will do the cause of "Kosova" anything but harm. What's next, burning the Stars and Stripes on Mother Theresa Street?

LOL

It's called freedom of speech. PM Thaci compared Dick to Goebbel not the Swiss nation...remember???
(KOSO, 3 January 2011 20:54)

We also have the right to comment and criticise...remember???

Had Serbia posses the ample proof, UNSC would have been informed by now and would authorize ICTY to start this investigation also.
As far as I am concerned I don't care about Thaci. However nobody can be called criminal just because he waged the war against Milosevic. If the proof is destroyed then those who gave such order as well as executors have names.
(Simpatiku, 4 January 2011 14:44)
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It was the ICTY who had evidence and ordered it to be destroyed, so please stop with this rubbish if Serbia had proof.
The evidence was destroyed at the request of Hague so no, nobody is going down because of it.

Nobody can be called a criminal because he waged a war against Milosevic? Where did you read that this is the reason Thaci is called a criminal? Please do answer this one if you don't answer anything else from now on. Where has anyone accused Thaci of being a criminal for waging a war against Milosevic?

I find it really irritating that you guys twist everything in order to escape the truth or divert to something else totally ridiculous in order to escape dealing with what's actually being discussed.

Being irritating will not help you escape justice.

"Where did I read that Thaci is criminal just because waging war against Milosevic? How about "land stealing" that you put here very often? How can I steal my home where I was born?"
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Again I ask you,where did you read that Thaci is considered a criminal because he waged war on Milosevic? What has your answer got to do with the question?

Nobody is saying that your house is not your own. Nobody is accusing Albanians of stealing houses they live in. What I am accusing Thaci is theft of entire Kosovo in the sense that he has no right to appoint himself anything since Kosovo is Serbia and only position Thaci can hold there is within the boundaries of Serbian law.

Gee, I hope I have made myself very clear now. Again, please stop twisting what I say to suit your warped agenda.

....and we will be able to find ample proof.
(Peggy, 4 January 2011 07:50)

Good for you peggy, for confirming there is no proof.
(AdamNYC, 4 January 2011 22:56)
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I didn't say there was NO proof at all.
We just need to get more.
Pity the good stuff was destroyed by Germany but we have enough to start a serious discussion.

it´s not only the Swiss who are looking differently on the southern-serbian issue.

we have time, things are going in our direction, and all we have to, will be done.

Serbia will prevail.

just a question of time.
(Jovan, 4 January 2011 22:27)

And of course you see these stuff on your cristal ball.

What I am accusing Thaci is theft of entire Kosovo in the sense that he has no right to appoint himself anything since Kosovo is Serbia and only position Thaci can hold there is within the boundaries of Serbian law.

Gee, I hope I have made myself very clear now. Again, please stop twisting what I say to suit your warped agenda.
(Peggy, 5 January 2011 11:16)

Kosovo is Serbia according to you. Kosovo is independent according to Thaci, me and majority of population. We are not expected to abide to Serbian law.
And again. I have read that Thaci is criminal for waging war against Milosevic in the comments here.
I am not twisting anything yours. I made my comment already.

@ben:

benny-boy...don´t you have something better to contribute?

come on, I know you can do that better...

of course there is no crystal ball needed, it´s only that your obsession makes you blind for what is obvious.

do you really think that it is in your greater-albanian interest that the Swiss are "not amused" about these really stupid comparisons made by your oh-so-smart snake-hero?
( oh by the way, some days ago some rather naive albanian has been bragging about how snakes are seen in the albanian culture - well, it´s too bad that you simply cannot get it straight that the snake is a thorougly negative symbol in almost every other culture, especially when you look at european and christian culture(s). so being proud of idolizing snakes here, couldn´t be more stupid.)

well, there are some other things I would worry about, if I were in your shoes.

I think it is no coincidence that a little piece of sand in the middle east, under western patronage "recognized" the greater-albanian freak-creation on serbian territory.

I´d say that there is something like a pattern to this.

since there is trouble coming up for your cause, the masterminds in the US foreign office had no other choice to draw that card in this rather ugly situation for you...

but, these cards are limited. and while you are blind to see that things are getting worse for you, all you´ve got to do is to phantasize about "crystal balls"...

well, go on, I see it as a kind of "entertainment"...

we could even call it "edutainment", since we are entertained and you will learn something in the future... =)

and, you won´t need crystal balls to realize what that means.

I was shock when I herd for a first time that all nice stuff about Kosova ppl and all the victims are actually media manipulation from western media in order to push Kosova independence...how naive I was...poor Serbia ppl, western media helped other ppl to occupy their country, kill them and then put all the blame on them...but truth always come out!