sj, you know very little and hate a lot!!!!
People like you are easily manipulated.
And, that's dangerous!
(metrod, 2 January 2011 17:38)
Anyone that claims they are racially pure, and that’s what Lenard is trying to say under the guise of his “academic” proof, is a lunatic of the highest order. And supporting him only testifies that you are not too far behind him.
“Residents of modern day Serbia were not Roman during those times but were Illyrian”
So Constantine the Great was an Illyrian?
And there is plenty of evidence that shows Romans were living in what is now modern day Serbia and my point is that Slavic people, upon arrival in the 6 century, would have inter mixed thorough marriage with Illyrians or Romans and not to claim that Serbians are Romans. That is my point.
I know my history only too well and have never claimed that Serbs were anything more than what can be confirmed by historical records. Unlike the Croats who claimed they ruled Poland and the Albanians that lived in Kosovo for thousands of years and yet there is not even a cave painting to support that theory.
This claim by the Croats to be Illyrians goes back to the start of their nationalistic period in the 19 century. Most racial superiority lunatics make such claims to distinguish themselves from their victims.
I know a lot more than you think, been to more countries than you can imagine and have seen the results of theories spread like Lenard.
Your problem is that anyone that does not bend to your theories is “easily manipulated and dangerous”. Naturally I’m dangerous as I don’t take much notice of you or Lenard.
"Then why you speak a Slavic language? Shouldn't Croats speak a Northern language such as German? You truly sound like Pavelic, he made those exactly claims in the 30's and thousands of people died in consequence.
(Brazilskifarmer, 2 January 2011 05:06) "
As the last Ice Age set in, people from northern Europe retreated to the South, including the Balkans. When the ice melted - 10,000 years ago or so - some of them followed their animal prey north again. It's claimed that the ancestors of today's Scandinavians moved north from a refugium in the western Balkans - long before there were any Croats or Scandinavians, as such. Slavic-speaking tribes moved into the Balkans only thousands of years later.
Population genetics has come up with some interesting information. For example, the origin of the Polynesians. Their legends said they had come from a homeland in the East, probably in Indonesia, but some claimed that they had come from South America - that primitives could not have sailed against the prevailing winds over such distances. Remember Kon-Tiki? Heyderdahl sailed a balsa raft from Peru to somewhere in Polynesia and showed it could be done, and easily (the winds blew west-to-east at that latitude). But then along comes geographical genetics, and shows that the Polynesians had been right all along - they had navigated over thousands of miles of open ocean at a time when the rest of the world was hugging the coastline, never daring to get out of sight of land.
"Now once again using Leanrd’s theory, the Romans ruled in what is today Serbia and when the Slavic peoples arrived the local inhabitants did not inter marry or have offspring and stayed Roman until this day for the sake of racial purity.
- It's a bit ignorant to criticize someone for their lack of knowledge when you assume that residents of modern day Serbia were Roman during the roman empire. The Roman empire was large and ruled places as far ar Palestine & Judea.
Did that make them Roman???
Residents of modern day Serbia were not Roman during those times but were Illyrian!
Now, that you've confirmed that you know very little about history and anything else for that matter it makes you look really bad when you try to insult someone based on their level on knowledge.
"Sorry Amer it didn’t work Lenard considers you trash as well.
sj"
- 'trash as well'???
In addition to whom?
You and similar thinking Serbs????
Lenard was referring to 45% of Croats. There are 55% left. You know, when you add the two it makes 100%.
Croats claim that at least 30% of them have Illyrian roots.
sj, you know very little and hate a lot!!!!
People like you are easily manipulated.
And, that's dangerous!
Genetics say we are more northern European but the Serbs are cousins of Illyrian and Thracian that could explain a lot or not. Anthropologically, the craniometrical measurements made on Croat population show Croats from Croatia are predominantly dolichocephalic, suggesting that they are more prone to dolichocephalic sub-racial types such as Nordic and Mediterranean than brachycephalic ones like Alpine and Dinaric.[33]
(Lenard, 31 December 2010 20:43)
Then why you speak a Slavic language? Shouldn't Croats speak a Northern language such as German? You truly sound like Pavelic, he made those exactly claims in the 30's and thousands of people died in consequence.
Yes, population genetics is a fascinating study and is providing highly detailed information. For example, in Britain, they're able to identify when specific related groups arrived from the same approximate area (Iberia). They've even shown evidence of Roman soldiers from a specific area in what is now Kosovo in descendants in southern-most England - Illyria was a major source of soldiers in the Roman Empire, which often settled its veterans in the area where they had served.
Wow! So that explains why Ian Uk posts for the Albanians. The Lion was all wrong on Ian's assessments.
"Thanks, Lenard, interesting stuff. I didn't know so far that it's possible to define relationships between different populations that well.
(Top, 1 January 2011 11:46) "
Yes, population genetics is a fascinating study and is providing highly detailed information. For example, in Britain, they're able to identify when specific related groups arrived from the same approximate area (Iberia). They've even shown evidence of Roman soldiers from a specific area in what is now Kosovo in descendants in southern-most England - Illyria was a major source of soldiers in the Roman Empire, which often settled its veterans in the area where they had served. Considering the interest in the subject that obviously exists in the Balkans, I'm surprised that there isn't more research being done in the area.
"Croatia and Albania, cultrally and economicaly close.... interesting
(Vuk, 31 December 2010 15:40) "
Also genetically - they both have more Illyrian in them than anything else.
(Amer, 31 December 2010 18:02)
you are just jealous of the west and of us and our clean sea.i don't care if you now dont have sea like the the magars. i wonder why the west go on and feed you people.if you don't like us and living in the west go to rusia and try living over there.they are all a bunch of communisem like milosevic's wife.
(Lenard, 31 December 2010 20:43)
Lenard, where did you copy this from? If you had gone to university you would understand the term plagiarism, but I doubt you finished kindergarten school as only an intellectually challenged individual like you could have produced this rubbish. Perhaps you went to the Adolf Hitler School of genetics.
Now my fellow Serbs you see how a little knowledge can be dangerous in the hands of a semi literate individual who draws on everything and anything to prove the “racial superiority of the Croats”. The Internet has a lot to answer for.
Wait a moment! Didn’t the Croats come from Poland? Didn’t they rule there after arriving from the, oh should I say it? undesirable East then after a while they got tired and needed new challenges so they created the Croatian Empire in the Balkans? Why I never knew that there was a Croatia during the last ice age or for that matter preceded the fabled city of Atlantis. Unbelievable! I never knew that the Venetian state were not Italians, but were actually Croats who the build Dubrovnik and the rest of those ancient cities along the Dalmatian coast.
I’m in awe of the Croats.
Now I can see the racial similarities between Slovenes and Austrians, but I’m puzzled about the Bosnians. Now based on your theory the magical “Y” chromosome only appears in Bosnian Muslims and Croats, but it automatically disappears once they marry into a Serb family and produce offspring?
Now once again using Leanrd’s theory, the Romans ruled in what is today Serbia and when the Slavic peoples arrived the local inhabitants did not inter marry or have offspring and stayed Roman until this day for the sake of racial purity.
The Italians and Greeks are recognized in history as making great contributions to western society, but I have never heard one Italian or Greek carry on like some Croats about their superiority.
Sorry Amer it didn’t work Lenard considers you trash as well.
Also genetically - they both have more Illyrian in them than anything else.
(Amer, 31 December 2010 18:02) Genetics say we are more northern European but the Serbs are cousins of Illyrian and Thracian that could explain a lot or not. Anthropologically, the craniometrical measurements made on Croat population show Croats from Croatia are predominantly dolichocephalic, suggesting that they are more prone to dolichocephalic sub-racial types such as Nordic and Mediterranean than brachycephalic ones like Alpine and Dinaric.[33]
Brown hair and light eyes predominate among Croatian people, in which respect they are closest to neighbouring populations such as Slovenians, Bosnians and Austrians.[34]
Genetically, on the Y chromosome line, a majority (>85%) of Croats belong to one of the three major European Y-DNA haplogroups - Haplogroup I (45%), Haplogroup R1a (27%) and Haplogroup R1b (13%) [35].
Later, neolithic lineages, originating in the Middle East and that brought agriculture to Europe, are present in surprisingly low numbers. The haplogroups J, E and T constitute together about 13% - significantly lower than other populations in the region.[35] Furthermore the dominant presence of haplogroup I is rather interesting. This group exists in Europe only and is fairly widespread, but in relatively small percentages. Its frequency in the western Balkans is very high, but the only populations that have similar levels of the I group are the Scandinavians.[36] Haplogroup I among Croatians is divided in two major subdivisions[35] - I2a1 (33%), typical for the populations of eastern Adriatic and the Balkans, and I1 (9%), typical for north-western Europeans. Haplogroup I is believed to have weathered the last glacial maximum in the western Balkans, migrating north as the ice sheets retreated.
There are a number of relevant conclusions that can be drawn from the genetic data.
First of all it gives strong support to the theory that the region of modern day Croatia served as a refuge for northern populations during the last glacial maximum (LGM). Eastern Adriatic coast was much more to the south, northern and western parts of that sea were steppes and plains, while modern Croatian islands (rich with the archeological sites from Paleolithic) were hills and mountains. After the LGM, the offspring of these survivors repopulated much of central-eastern and southeastern Europe. Those who remained in the Balkans are the ancestors of about 45% of modern day Croatian men in Croatia and 73% Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
The Albanian Foreign Ministry welcomed Zagreb's decision, underlining that it would bring the citizens of the two countries closer to each other and boost their cultural and economic ties, ATA reported.
The Albanian Foreign Ministry welcomed Zagreb's decision, underlining that it would bring the citizens of the two countries closer to each other and boost their cultural and economic ties, ATA reported.
(Lenard, 31 December 2010 20:43)
Lenard, where did you copy this from? If you had gone to university you would understand the term plagiarism, but I doubt you finished kindergarten school as only an intellectually challenged individual like you could have produced this rubbish. Perhaps you went to the Adolf Hitler School of genetics.
Now my fellow Serbs you see how a little knowledge can be dangerous in the hands of a semi literate individual who draws on everything and anything to prove the “racial superiority of the Croats”. The Internet has a lot to answer for.
Wait a moment! Didn’t the Croats come from Poland? Didn’t they rule there after arriving from the, oh should I say it? undesirable East then after a while they got tired and needed new challenges so they created the Croatian Empire in the Balkans? Why I never knew that there was a Croatia during the last ice age or for that matter preceded the fabled city of Atlantis. Unbelievable! I never knew that the Venetian state were not Italians, but were actually Croats who the build Dubrovnik and the rest of those ancient cities along the Dalmatian coast.
I’m in awe of the Croats.
Now I can see the racial similarities between Slovenes and Austrians, but I’m puzzled about the Bosnians. Now based on your theory the magical “Y” chromosome only appears in Bosnian Muslims and Croats, but it automatically disappears once they marry into a Serb family and produce offspring?
Now once again using Leanrd’s theory, the Romans ruled in what is today Serbia and when the Slavic peoples arrived the local inhabitants did not inter marry or have offspring and stayed Roman until this day for the sake of racial purity.
The Italians and Greeks are recognized in history as making great contributions to western society, but I have never heard one Italian or Greek carry on like some Croats about their superiority.
Sorry Amer it didn’t work Lenard considers you trash as well.
Also genetically - they both have more Illyrian in them than anything else.
(Amer, 31 December 2010 18:02) Genetics say we are more northern European but the Serbs are cousins of Illyrian and Thracian that could explain a lot or not. Anthropologically, the craniometrical measurements made on Croat population show Croats from Croatia are predominantly dolichocephalic, suggesting that they are more prone to dolichocephalic sub-racial types such as Nordic and Mediterranean than brachycephalic ones like Alpine and Dinaric.[33]
Brown hair and light eyes predominate among Croatian people, in which respect they are closest to neighbouring populations such as Slovenians, Bosnians and Austrians.[34]
Genetically, on the Y chromosome line, a majority (>85%) of Croats belong to one of the three major European Y-DNA haplogroups - Haplogroup I (45%), Haplogroup R1a (27%) and Haplogroup R1b (13%) [35].
Later, neolithic lineages, originating in the Middle East and that brought agriculture to Europe, are present in surprisingly low numbers. The haplogroups J, E and T constitute together about 13% - significantly lower than other populations in the region.[35] Furthermore the dominant presence of haplogroup I is rather interesting. This group exists in Europe only and is fairly widespread, but in relatively small percentages. Its frequency in the western Balkans is very high, but the only populations that have similar levels of the I group are the Scandinavians.[36] Haplogroup I among Croatians is divided in two major subdivisions[35] - I2a1 (33%), typical for the populations of eastern Adriatic and the Balkans, and I1 (9%), typical for north-western Europeans. Haplogroup I is believed to have weathered the last glacial maximum in the western Balkans, migrating north as the ice sheets retreated.
There are a number of relevant conclusions that can be drawn from the genetic data.
First of all it gives strong support to the theory that the region of modern day Croatia served as a refuge for northern populations during the last glacial maximum (LGM). Eastern Adriatic coast was much more to the south, northern and western parts of that sea were steppes and plains, while modern Croatian islands (rich with the archeological sites from Paleolithic) were hills and mountains. After the LGM, the offspring of these survivors repopulated much of central-eastern and southeastern Europe. Those who remained in the Balkans are the ancestors of about 45% of modern day Croatian men in Croatia and 73% Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
"Croatia and Albania, cultrally and economicaly close.... interesting
(Vuk, 31 December 2010 15:40) "
Also genetically - they both have more Illyrian in them than anything else.
(Amer, 31 December 2010 18:02)
you are just jealous of the west and of us and our clean sea.i don't care if you now dont have sea like the the magars. i wonder why the west go on and feed you people.if you don't like us and living in the west go to rusia and try living over there.they are all a bunch of communisem like milosevic's wife.
"Thanks, Lenard, interesting stuff. I didn't know so far that it's possible to define relationships between different populations that well.
(Top, 1 January 2011 11:46) "
Yes, population genetics is a fascinating study and is providing highly detailed information. For example, in Britain, they're able to identify when specific related groups arrived from the same approximate area (Iberia). They've even shown evidence of Roman soldiers from a specific area in what is now Kosovo in descendants in southern-most England - Illyria was a major source of soldiers in the Roman Empire, which often settled its veterans in the area where they had served. Considering the interest in the subject that obviously exists in the Balkans, I'm surprised that there isn't more research being done in the area.
Genetics say we are more northern European but the Serbs are cousins of Illyrian and Thracian that could explain a lot or not. Anthropologically, the craniometrical measurements made on Croat population show Croats from Croatia are predominantly dolichocephalic, suggesting that they are more prone to dolichocephalic sub-racial types such as Nordic and Mediterranean than brachycephalic ones like Alpine and Dinaric.[33]
(Lenard, 31 December 2010 20:43)
Then why you speak a Slavic language? Shouldn't Croats speak a Northern language such as German? You truly sound like Pavelic, he made those exactly claims in the 30's and thousands of people died in consequence.
"Now once again using Leanrd’s theory, the Romans ruled in what is today Serbia and when the Slavic peoples arrived the local inhabitants did not inter marry or have offspring and stayed Roman until this day for the sake of racial purity.
- It's a bit ignorant to criticize someone for their lack of knowledge when you assume that residents of modern day Serbia were Roman during the roman empire. The Roman empire was large and ruled places as far ar Palestine & Judea.
Did that make them Roman???
Residents of modern day Serbia were not Roman during those times but were Illyrian!
Now, that you've confirmed that you know very little about history and anything else for that matter it makes you look really bad when you try to insult someone based on their level on knowledge.
"Sorry Amer it didn’t work Lenard considers you trash as well.
sj"
- 'trash as well'???
In addition to whom?
You and similar thinking Serbs????
Lenard was referring to 45% of Croats. There are 55% left. You know, when you add the two it makes 100%.
Croats claim that at least 30% of them have Illyrian roots.
sj, you know very little and hate a lot!!!!
People like you are easily manipulated.
And, that's dangerous!
Yes, population genetics is a fascinating study and is providing highly detailed information. For example, in Britain, they're able to identify when specific related groups arrived from the same approximate area (Iberia). They've even shown evidence of Roman soldiers from a specific area in what is now Kosovo in descendants in southern-most England - Illyria was a major source of soldiers in the Roman Empire, which often settled its veterans in the area where they had served.
Wow! So that explains why Ian Uk posts for the Albanians. The Lion was all wrong on Ian's assessments.
sj, you know very little and hate a lot!!!!
People like you are easily manipulated.
And, that's dangerous!
(metrod, 2 January 2011 17:38)
Anyone that claims they are racially pure, and that’s what Lenard is trying to say under the guise of his “academic” proof, is a lunatic of the highest order. And supporting him only testifies that you are not too far behind him.
“Residents of modern day Serbia were not Roman during those times but were Illyrian”
So Constantine the Great was an Illyrian?
And there is plenty of evidence that shows Romans were living in what is now modern day Serbia and my point is that Slavic people, upon arrival in the 6 century, would have inter mixed thorough marriage with Illyrians or Romans and not to claim that Serbians are Romans. That is my point.
I know my history only too well and have never claimed that Serbs were anything more than what can be confirmed by historical records. Unlike the Croats who claimed they ruled Poland and the Albanians that lived in Kosovo for thousands of years and yet there is not even a cave painting to support that theory.
This claim by the Croats to be Illyrians goes back to the start of their nationalistic period in the 19 century. Most racial superiority lunatics make such claims to distinguish themselves from their victims.
I know a lot more than you think, been to more countries than you can imagine and have seen the results of theories spread like Lenard.
Your problem is that anyone that does not bend to your theories is “easily manipulated and dangerous”. Naturally I’m dangerous as I don’t take much notice of you or Lenard.
"Then why you speak a Slavic language? Shouldn't Croats speak a Northern language such as German? You truly sound like Pavelic, he made those exactly claims in the 30's and thousands of people died in consequence.
(Brazilskifarmer, 2 January 2011 05:06) "
As the last Ice Age set in, people from northern Europe retreated to the South, including the Balkans. When the ice melted - 10,000 years ago or so - some of them followed their animal prey north again. It's claimed that the ancestors of today's Scandinavians moved north from a refugium in the western Balkans - long before there were any Croats or Scandinavians, as such. Slavic-speaking tribes moved into the Balkans only thousands of years later.
Population genetics has come up with some interesting information. For example, the origin of the Polynesians. Their legends said they had come from a homeland in the East, probably in Indonesia, but some claimed that they had come from South America - that primitives could not have sailed against the prevailing winds over such distances. Remember Kon-Tiki? Heyderdahl sailed a balsa raft from Peru to somewhere in Polynesia and showed it could be done, and easily (the winds blew west-to-east at that latitude). But then along comes geographical genetics, and shows that the Polynesians had been right all along - they had navigated over thousands of miles of open ocean at a time when the rest of the world was hugging the coastline, never daring to get out of sight of land.
The Albanian Foreign Ministry welcomed Zagreb's decision, underlining that it would bring the citizens of the two countries closer to each other and boost their cultural and economic ties, ATA reported.
(Lenard, 31 December 2010 20:43)
Lenard, where did you copy this from? If you had gone to university you would understand the term plagiarism, but I doubt you finished kindergarten school as only an intellectually challenged individual like you could have produced this rubbish. Perhaps you went to the Adolf Hitler School of genetics.
Now my fellow Serbs you see how a little knowledge can be dangerous in the hands of a semi literate individual who draws on everything and anything to prove the “racial superiority of the Croats”. The Internet has a lot to answer for.
Wait a moment! Didn’t the Croats come from Poland? Didn’t they rule there after arriving from the, oh should I say it? undesirable East then after a while they got tired and needed new challenges so they created the Croatian Empire in the Balkans? Why I never knew that there was a Croatia during the last ice age or for that matter preceded the fabled city of Atlantis. Unbelievable! I never knew that the Venetian state were not Italians, but were actually Croats who the build Dubrovnik and the rest of those ancient cities along the Dalmatian coast.
I’m in awe of the Croats.
Now I can see the racial similarities between Slovenes and Austrians, but I’m puzzled about the Bosnians. Now based on your theory the magical “Y” chromosome only appears in Bosnian Muslims and Croats, but it automatically disappears once they marry into a Serb family and produce offspring?
Now once again using Leanrd’s theory, the Romans ruled in what is today Serbia and when the Slavic peoples arrived the local inhabitants did not inter marry or have offspring and stayed Roman until this day for the sake of racial purity.
The Italians and Greeks are recognized in history as making great contributions to western society, but I have never heard one Italian or Greek carry on like some Croats about their superiority.
Sorry Amer it didn’t work Lenard considers you trash as well.
Also genetically - they both have more Illyrian in them than anything else.
(Amer, 31 December 2010 18:02) Genetics say we are more northern European but the Serbs are cousins of Illyrian and Thracian that could explain a lot or not. Anthropologically, the craniometrical measurements made on Croat population show Croats from Croatia are predominantly dolichocephalic, suggesting that they are more prone to dolichocephalic sub-racial types such as Nordic and Mediterranean than brachycephalic ones like Alpine and Dinaric.[33]
Brown hair and light eyes predominate among Croatian people, in which respect they are closest to neighbouring populations such as Slovenians, Bosnians and Austrians.[34]
Genetically, on the Y chromosome line, a majority (>85%) of Croats belong to one of the three major European Y-DNA haplogroups - Haplogroup I (45%), Haplogroup R1a (27%) and Haplogroup R1b (13%) [35].
Later, neolithic lineages, originating in the Middle East and that brought agriculture to Europe, are present in surprisingly low numbers. The haplogroups J, E and T constitute together about 13% - significantly lower than other populations in the region.[35] Furthermore the dominant presence of haplogroup I is rather interesting. This group exists in Europe only and is fairly widespread, but in relatively small percentages. Its frequency in the western Balkans is very high, but the only populations that have similar levels of the I group are the Scandinavians.[36] Haplogroup I among Croatians is divided in two major subdivisions[35] - I2a1 (33%), typical for the populations of eastern Adriatic and the Balkans, and I1 (9%), typical for north-western Europeans. Haplogroup I is believed to have weathered the last glacial maximum in the western Balkans, migrating north as the ice sheets retreated.
There are a number of relevant conclusions that can be drawn from the genetic data.
First of all it gives strong support to the theory that the region of modern day Croatia served as a refuge for northern populations during the last glacial maximum (LGM). Eastern Adriatic coast was much more to the south, northern and western parts of that sea were steppes and plains, while modern Croatian islands (rich with the archeological sites from Paleolithic) were hills and mountains. After the LGM, the offspring of these survivors repopulated much of central-eastern and southeastern Europe. Those who remained in the Balkans are the ancestors of about 45% of modern day Croatian men in Croatia and 73% Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
"Thanks, Lenard, interesting stuff. I didn't know so far that it's possible to define relationships between different populations that well.
(Top, 1 January 2011 11:46) "
Yes, population genetics is a fascinating study and is providing highly detailed information. For example, in Britain, they're able to identify when specific related groups arrived from the same approximate area (Iberia). They've even shown evidence of Roman soldiers from a specific area in what is now Kosovo in descendants in southern-most England - Illyria was a major source of soldiers in the Roman Empire, which often settled its veterans in the area where they had served. Considering the interest in the subject that obviously exists in the Balkans, I'm surprised that there isn't more research being done in the area.
"Croatia and Albania, cultrally and economicaly close.... interesting
(Vuk, 31 December 2010 15:40) "
Also genetically - they both have more Illyrian in them than anything else.
(Amer, 31 December 2010 18:02)
you are just jealous of the west and of us and our clean sea.i don't care if you now dont have sea like the the magars. i wonder why the west go on and feed you people.if you don't like us and living in the west go to rusia and try living over there.they are all a bunch of communisem like milosevic's wife.
Yes, population genetics is a fascinating study and is providing highly detailed information. For example, in Britain, they're able to identify when specific related groups arrived from the same approximate area (Iberia). They've even shown evidence of Roman soldiers from a specific area in what is now Kosovo in descendants in southern-most England - Illyria was a major source of soldiers in the Roman Empire, which often settled its veterans in the area where they had served.
Wow! So that explains why Ian Uk posts for the Albanians. The Lion was all wrong on Ian's assessments.
Genetics say we are more northern European but the Serbs are cousins of Illyrian and Thracian that could explain a lot or not. Anthropologically, the craniometrical measurements made on Croat population show Croats from Croatia are predominantly dolichocephalic, suggesting that they are more prone to dolichocephalic sub-racial types such as Nordic and Mediterranean than brachycephalic ones like Alpine and Dinaric.[33]
(Lenard, 31 December 2010 20:43)
Then why you speak a Slavic language? Shouldn't Croats speak a Northern language such as German? You truly sound like Pavelic, he made those exactly claims in the 30's and thousands of people died in consequence.
"Now once again using Leanrd’s theory, the Romans ruled in what is today Serbia and when the Slavic peoples arrived the local inhabitants did not inter marry or have offspring and stayed Roman until this day for the sake of racial purity.
- It's a bit ignorant to criticize someone for their lack of knowledge when you assume that residents of modern day Serbia were Roman during the roman empire. The Roman empire was large and ruled places as far ar Palestine & Judea.
Did that make them Roman???
Residents of modern day Serbia were not Roman during those times but were Illyrian!
Now, that you've confirmed that you know very little about history and anything else for that matter it makes you look really bad when you try to insult someone based on their level on knowledge.
"Sorry Amer it didn’t work Lenard considers you trash as well.
sj"
- 'trash as well'???
In addition to whom?
You and similar thinking Serbs????
Lenard was referring to 45% of Croats. There are 55% left. You know, when you add the two it makes 100%.
Croats claim that at least 30% of them have Illyrian roots.
sj, you know very little and hate a lot!!!!
People like you are easily manipulated.
And, that's dangerous!
sj, you know very little and hate a lot!!!!
People like you are easily manipulated.
And, that's dangerous!
(metrod, 2 January 2011 17:38)
Anyone that claims they are racially pure, and that’s what Lenard is trying to say under the guise of his “academic” proof, is a lunatic of the highest order. And supporting him only testifies that you are not too far behind him.
“Residents of modern day Serbia were not Roman during those times but were Illyrian”
So Constantine the Great was an Illyrian?
And there is plenty of evidence that shows Romans were living in what is now modern day Serbia and my point is that Slavic people, upon arrival in the 6 century, would have inter mixed thorough marriage with Illyrians or Romans and not to claim that Serbians are Romans. That is my point.
I know my history only too well and have never claimed that Serbs were anything more than what can be confirmed by historical records. Unlike the Croats who claimed they ruled Poland and the Albanians that lived in Kosovo for thousands of years and yet there is not even a cave painting to support that theory.
This claim by the Croats to be Illyrians goes back to the start of their nationalistic period in the 19 century. Most racial superiority lunatics make such claims to distinguish themselves from their victims.
I know a lot more than you think, been to more countries than you can imagine and have seen the results of theories spread like Lenard.
Your problem is that anyone that does not bend to your theories is “easily manipulated and dangerous”. Naturally I’m dangerous as I don’t take much notice of you or Lenard.
"Then why you speak a Slavic language? Shouldn't Croats speak a Northern language such as German? You truly sound like Pavelic, he made those exactly claims in the 30's and thousands of people died in consequence.
(Brazilskifarmer, 2 January 2011 05:06) "
As the last Ice Age set in, people from northern Europe retreated to the South, including the Balkans. When the ice melted - 10,000 years ago or so - some of them followed their animal prey north again. It's claimed that the ancestors of today's Scandinavians moved north from a refugium in the western Balkans - long before there were any Croats or Scandinavians, as such. Slavic-speaking tribes moved into the Balkans only thousands of years later.
Population genetics has come up with some interesting information. For example, the origin of the Polynesians. Their legends said they had come from a homeland in the East, probably in Indonesia, but some claimed that they had come from South America - that primitives could not have sailed against the prevailing winds over such distances. Remember Kon-Tiki? Heyderdahl sailed a balsa raft from Peru to somewhere in Polynesia and showed it could be done, and easily (the winds blew west-to-east at that latitude). But then along comes geographical genetics, and shows that the Polynesians had been right all along - they had navigated over thousands of miles of open ocean at a time when the rest of the world was hugging the coastline, never daring to get out of sight of land.
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