Serbia to pay less in Satellite Affair

This was that satellite that Serbia wanted to use to spy on Kosova if I'm not mistaken.

This was that satellite that Serbia wanted to use to spy on Kosova if I'm not mistaken.
(johny, 29 December 2010 20:05)

It "is", not "was". Otherwise it was probably a usual negotiation between friends. Business and friendship are not easy to mix. We did negotiate with Israeli companies, too. Tough people, but at the end both sides are rewarded. If you play dumb - your problem.

You can expect all kind of pressure and usual good cop-bad cop game. The only weapon: be more knowledgeable than your opponent and don't let yourself get scared or pressured. Once in a while dirty offers could come. If you do - you lose the respect of them. But hey, I did squeeze good $200 out of a photography store based in NY (not B&H, they are reputable). The ones I was unfortunate to deal with were pretty bad. They played the usual trick: selling a "grey import" but advertising "US model". You open the box... and yikes.

Bad idea/1: sending back because you won't credited good $50 shipping/handling, so you lose.

Bad idea/2: putting the equipment in dispute because you can't: credit card company will ask you to send back, so you lose (see above)

Good idea: put a reasonable amount (say, 30% of the value) in the dispute because the "shipment missed U.S. warranty". So you keep the grey import camera and tell your c/c company: "the U.S. warranty is missing. It's worth $200. I will cancel my dispute if the merchant will send the missing U.S. warranty card".

Now the merchant is in trouble. 99% of the people try either Bad/1 or Bad/2. Now you got some use of these Russians here on B92 - and will use the trick which is working.

Happy shopping. But to tell the truth, rather go with Adorama or B&H via Amazon.

This was that satellite that Serbia wanted to use to spy on Kosova if I'm not mistaken.

This was that satellite that Serbia wanted to use to spy on Kosova if I'm not mistaken.
(johny, 29 December 2010 20:05)

It "is", not "was". Otherwise it was probably a usual negotiation between friends. Business and friendship are not easy to mix. We did negotiate with Israeli companies, too. Tough people, but at the end both sides are rewarded. If you play dumb - your problem.

You can expect all kind of pressure and usual good cop-bad cop game. The only weapon: be more knowledgeable than your opponent and don't let yourself get scared or pressured. Once in a while dirty offers could come. If you do - you lose the respect of them. But hey, I did squeeze good $200 out of a photography store based in NY (not B&H, they are reputable). The ones I was unfortunate to deal with were pretty bad. They played the usual trick: selling a "grey import" but advertising "US model". You open the box... and yikes.

Bad idea/1: sending back because you won't credited good $50 shipping/handling, so you lose.

Bad idea/2: putting the equipment in dispute because you can't: credit card company will ask you to send back, so you lose (see above)

Good idea: put a reasonable amount (say, 30% of the value) in the dispute because the "shipment missed U.S. warranty". So you keep the grey import camera and tell your c/c company: "the U.S. warranty is missing. It's worth $200. I will cancel my dispute if the merchant will send the missing U.S. warranty card".

Now the merchant is in trouble. 99% of the people try either Bad/1 or Bad/2. Now you got some use of these Russians here on B92 - and will use the trick which is working.

Happy shopping. But to tell the truth, rather go with Adorama or B&H via Amazon.