One of the main pieces of evidence of the Serbian prosecution against Hashim Thaci and his KLA group is a video made in a camp that shows kidnapped Serbs.
in yugo era plenty ppl felt yugoslav why not now I can't feel kosovar.You need to refresh your mind of Milosevic era because is dead and buried.And you are desperate to stop IanUK what is telling the trueth
I'm from near Bradford in West Yorkshire. I have pretty much no contact with any Albanians, I know a few Serbs though, they're good people.
(Ian, UK, 25 December 2010 18:42)
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What about that Albanian family from Kosovo you said lived with you for a while when they came to England as refugees?
You know the ones who could not speak English and yet you somehow understood just how evil Serbs were and took everything they told you as gospel.
Don't you keep in touch with them any more?
BTW, if you had any Serb friends you would not be on every site writing bad things about Serbs. Somehow I don't think your Serb friends would appreciate it. Do they know what you say about Serbs behind their back?
Peggy-for once you must AGREE with me YES. Amer,Ian UK ,Johny and many more are GENIUS human , who make me proud to be Kosovar
(L-pz, 25 December 2010 14:46)
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Actually you are deluded. There is no such race as a kosovar race. People living in Kosovo are Serbs, Albanians, Roma or any other minority but none of them are Kosovars.
All those men you mentioned are patriotic Albanians and I agree, they would make anyone look good.
and you do not even know it. You are right about one thing though, I do wear glasses made by Ralph Lauren with transition lessees.
(Albi, 25 December 2010 00:22)
waooo, great, you are privilegded... and at least I managed to tackle something behind the glasses.... Now if you do not like my comments, don't read them, as simple as that. And yes, am happy to have Serbian friends, like I do have Albanian friends, with a little difference, they don't wear pink ralph lauren glasses and do not keep the head in the sand.
Cheers and good luck
You sir will look a fool when Marty is unable to prove that Thaci was connected to the Organ trade. The only evidence apart from this video which proves nothing, which Marty will be able to produce is some witnesses which Serbia has bribed. This will be an epic fail on Marty's behalf.
(Ian, UK, 25 December 2010 02:29
There is absoltely nothing in the depth of my mind right now that I can pull out
to respond to your imagination other than the following: Almost all of the key evidence was deliberately destroyed with the intent to hide the truth and protect all of the criminals involved directly and by association, which sadly also include your icon--Tony Blair.There were also witnesses to organ harvesting that have mysteriously disappeared. But you already know that better than I do,Ian.
So Ian, tell us all, are these the facts that are the core of your defense to your ego and the Albanian cause? If not, what are they?
Did you ever have a conversation with someone that you were actually deeply involved in emotionally, psychologically, intellectually, and all of your efforts directed at satisfying your need to prove yourself right? And at some point, a little light goes off in your brain and you see the futility and hopelessness of the ego's charades, and rise above the situation, and say--who cares? I have on many occasions. But every now and then when I moisten my soul,in my mind, I hear the song: The Lion This Time, by Van Morrison, and it wakes up in me the memory and the habit of thinking that my purpose is to carry a torch for some cause of righteousness.
That requires judgment on my part, which weighs heavily on my soul, and it's in those times that I need to be reminded that I am no "Archangel Michael".
"why the Albanians have been trying to prove that report of CoE envoy is faked? what is the point of such albanian demagogy? no dears the Albanians and Kosovars,you are not victimious nation any more. criminals and war perpetrators belongs to you and lead you with the same ideology,which you are tending to spread here. If I were Albanian I will be shamed.
Realist"
- Realist, do you know the meaning of the word 'realism'?
Apparently not!
It's the Serb government which aids and abeds war criminals. And, they are the ones leading your country.
Perhaps, it is you who should be ashamed to be Serbian!
Ian, are you originaly from Beverley in Yorhshire? Just curious.
Regarding your comments, even you are not Albanian you must have some connection with Albanians.
I just dont want to comment on your writings here as you are the biggest hypocrite. Maybe next time you should coment on some Albanian websites where your comments will be more apriciated.
(Tomashenko, 25 December 2010 14:54)
I'm from near Bradford in West Yorkshire. I have pretty much no contact with any Albanians, I know a few Serbs though, they're good people.
Is this the best that the Albanians have to govern them? A thuggish figure with no significant skills or accomplishments?
(nick, 25 December 2010 07:56)
Actually we do have a lot, but this is the best when dealing with Serbs. He is only 40 and won couple of battles such as Rambouillet pushing NATO and the world against Serbia, remaining in good collaboration with western countries and gaining the support for the independence of Kosova. Something similar happened with ICJ, and I believe Dick Mary – the last hope of Jeremic to win the diplomatic battle for Kosovo, is going to be a piece of cake for him.
In addition, Kosovo Serbs, except those in north Mitrovica, like him. They trust him because looks like he is a trustful guy. Probably they share the same impression with Clinton, Bush, Blair etc. Do not be surprised if during his next 4 years mandate he is going to be liked by Serbs in North Mitrovica. Looks like he is a good guy who keeps the promis.
When Jean Piaget (Swiss by the way) explained the development of intelligence, he used a matrix that placed autistic thought at the bottom because it's neither communicable nor directed toward understanding phenomena. At the top he placed communicable thought because it seeks evidence to verify beliefs and it is indeed communicable. The second lowest form of intelligence he defined as magical thinking for although it is communicable it is not directed at discovering the truth. From what I see, most Albanians defending Thaci are stuck in this magical mode of thinking as they eschew evidence as being counterproductive. While there are certainly some Serbs on this site who get too excited about any piece of evidence, for the most part they have uttered similar sentiments, such as "all we want is a thorough investigation." Thus, their reasoning is clearly higher than magical thinking. Now, enter Dick Marty, a non-Serb from one of the Western countries revered by Kalbs, Switzerland, for it is the land of money. After a meticulous two year investigation, he published his report. If anyone knows the Swiss, they are not ones to jump to conclusions without gathering ample facts. Mr. Marty presented his report and requested a thorough investigation. All of the sudden, however, to Albanians he became something totally different, some kind of fiend who is protecting Serbs and is only interested in damning Albanians. Such is the power of assimilation. When people refuse to change their world views, they seek to assimilate every bit of information into their present world views. Smart people change their world views to accommodate new information. The question is, are you Albanians smart or not? If you are smart, you will wait for all the evidence to make itself known and change your worldviews to accommodate this information. If you are not smart, you will force every new bit of information to fit into your present worldview. For my part, I'll sit back and wait to see the evidence before deciding guilt. Then again, I'm not an Albanian.
Ian, are you originaly from Beverley in Yorhshire? Just curious.
Regarding your comments, even you are not Albanian you must have some connection with Albanians.
I just dont want to comment on your writings here as you are the biggest hypocrite. Maybe next time you should coment on some Albanian websites where your comments will be more apriciated.
The kosovan experiment is over. We all know it deep down. It has been a criminal enterprise from the start. Let's move on, split kosovo, and get away from them. And make the border watertight, the Kalbs are desperate to get out of their self made hell hole.
Didnt the serbs and Del Ponte try to blame albanians for this organ traficking already?
I am afraid that this will come back and hit the serbs again and Kosovo albanians will end up as winners just like it happened with the ICJ decision and the UN resolution in september.
I am afraid serbs will loose again this time with this.
"So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade. "
(Albi, 24 December 2010 18:59)
First people accuse Marty of spinning tales and inventing stories, now that he was quoting or copying text excerpts from other documents, it's suddenly 'plagiarizing'. Btw, I heard for both, the punishment is death penalty in the democratic and multietnic dream state of Kosovo. Always remember the gentlemen's words: "I can wait, I'm only 40, I will get you, wherever you are" ;-) Merry X-mas!
Thaci is 40? I always assumed he was in his mid 50's. Guilt, shame and stress are powerful agents of premature aging. No rest for the wicked afterall. Not only does he look like his usual obtuse and goonish self but hopefully justice is served before he leaves this world. Is this the best that the Albanians have to govern them? A thuggish figure with no significant skills or accomplishments?
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
(Ian, UK, 24 December 2010 14:33)
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Dick Marty is NOT Serbian. How is this Serbia attacking anyone?
Ian, spoken like a true Albanian.
I now you say you are British, but I'm sure you have Albanian blood running though you veins.
I am Australian but the blood running through my veins is Serbian.
Don't be ashamed of your heritage, well not just yet. Wait till this is all proven but don't blame the Serbs for your own people's sins.
I'm Yorkshire born n' bred. I have English, Scottish and Welsh heritage if you must know. Also you will not go to bed on Christmas eve "believing that no British man or woman of true intelligence can believe that Serbia, at this point in time in her history can have so much influence on the European and international stage"... I'm sure you have more important things to think about tonight, like what time shall I put the goose in the oven. You do realise the Russians have influence too matey... then there is bribery which the Russians and Serbs are no stranger to. For example the Russians building nuclear power stations in Bangladesh and Pakistan to stop them from recognising Kosovo, not to mention the money they paid Nauru and military equipment Venezuela received as well as the money they are offering Ecuador and Belarus to recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Also when PNG announced it was going to recognise Kosovo, Serbia suddenly "gave" them loads of military goods to help modernise their military. You sir will look a fool when Marty is unable to prove that Thaci was connected to the Organ trade. The only evidence apart from this video which proves nothing, which Marty will be able to produce is some witnesses which Serbia has bribed. This will be an epic fail on Marty's behalf.
The blatherings of a guity snake. I hope tadic does meet with him and a picture of them shaking hands is published. That way, the Serbs can throw that american puppet out of office. I expect the highest Serb official mr. snake will meet is the minister for kosovo. Take a hint, boris, get eu candidate status before soiling your hand. I think you are stupid already; don't be a stupid negotiator.
(JohnBoy, 24 December 2010 19:13)
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I agree. I cannot believe that any Serb would want to shake the hand that butchered his brothers and sisters.
This is the utmost betrayal of your people Mr Tadic.
At least wait until the investigation takes place and take it from there.
What is Tadic going to say when the snake is found guilty? No amount of disinfectant will ever remove the stain and stench of that hand he shook.
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
You know nothing about weapons and how you should hold any.. That photo is a military/combat fiasco promotion and can cause laughing and nothing else. I saw the whole set of those and there's not a single one convincing., by mistake- at least. Those things make me jump during the night and bite my pillow., how's that possible actually?! How's possible that such a shepherd morons receive all that help of the US/NATO and become any kind of "heroes"..
I have no doubt that all five of those have individually killed innocent people but that's other story..
Your mind should be blown away once you can see anything cool there.
What's cool there?
Of course, you're proud that they hold some weapons- at least while not "bringing the water" for US/NATO troops only. That big heroes you have. Show this picture to any trained soldiers and you'll see showing with a finger and laughing after few seconds. Try!
Are you by chance wearing pink glasses or maybe you smoked something unhealthy !
Egocentrism and wickedness on your statement are very oblivious . It does not take a rocket scientist to see your shameless statements. You feel like you are right all times and other people are wrong. Evidence is the one that wins on the end and belittlement is one of the characteristics of Serbian propaganda which even in this modest forum such B92 is plenty. Go team Serbia go because what are you doing just keeping the fire alive. As for you Swiss Serbian “brother” you are wearing those pink glasses for long time and you do not even know it. You are right about one thing though, I do wear glasses made by Ralph Lauren with transition lessees.
"I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty"
God bless you Thaci! I think Dick Marty only knows what he has done, someone might have explained him how such insults are dealt with. Notice how he is very careful on what he says now. No one has enough immunity
so I disagree with Mike, he CAN'T be cool like a cucumber....
(The Swiss, 24 December 2010 20:58)
Anytime he could end up like a cucumber: sliced into pieces by his former masters. Having such "relatives" like the godfathers of certain three-letter companies (BND, CIA, KGB) means you can't be secure, in particular if you know more, than what they want you to know.
Regardless who you are - God bless and stay as far away from all these as you can, makes better sleeps at night.
To mister Serbian Swiss these are the figures not the demagogy that you are full of. Here from Marty’s report: # 16
Of more than 6,000 disappearances on which the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has opened files, approximately 1,400 individuals have been found alive and 2,500 corpses have been found and identified. For the most part, these were Albanian Kosovar victims found in mass graves in regions under Serbian control and in Kosovo. To the almost 1,900 persons who went missing during the conflict and whose fate has still not been established (approximately two-thirds of whom are Albanian Kosovars) must be added almost 500 persons who disappeared after the arrival of KFOR troops on 12 June 1999, about 100 of whom were Albanian Kosovars and close to 400 non-Albanians, most of them Serbians.
My math
6000 -1400 alive = 4600 – 2500 corpses= 2100 ( FOR THE MOST PART THESE WERE ALBANIANS- it means that plus minus 90 %)
1900 were missing during the conflict two thirds Albanian (can you see the theme not Serbian mentioned until now just Albanians)
500 after the conflict 100 of them Albanians and close 400 non Albanians most of them Serbs
So how many Serbs are missing he is not saying
This is very ridiculous Albanians killed in total are 13000 Serbs not even around 500.
Marty should look in Serbian for war crimes not in Kosovo
Now mister Swiss who is wearing pink glasses and smoking a joint?
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
(Je¿ osadzony, 24 December 2010 21:32)
Have you checked the jails lately? There is no more room for any one else, they are full with Serb heroes.
“I’m a 40-year-old. I will wait until he loses his immunity and he will face justice. Just like I had patience to put up with all the curses for the past 15 years, I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty to lose his immunity,” he added.
There are good chances you won't be 45 year old, Mr. Snake. You know to much and some of your masters don't like people who know to much.
Is it me or does a video of the Drenica KLA camp with these kidnapped Serbs not hint that he is already guilty of ATLEAST the kidnapping allegations? And howcome none of you terrorist supporting K-Albs have anything to say about the video? Does denial have it's limits?
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
(Je¿ osadzony)
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Yes, only the best treatment for these individuals. So heroic and brave; I mean they have mastered the term "a*# kisser", only true brave people can be so honour-less. :)
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade.
(Albi, 24 December 2010 18:59)
Are you by chance wearing pink glasses or maybe you smoked something unhealthy !
I agree with JohnBoy. I actually like Tadic from an international perspective, but I think it would be a BIG mistake to shake hands with Thaci. And I for one would be really disgusted and it would confirm the doubts that have been creeping in recently.
Daredevil - very happy to hear you say nice things about the British. Thank you and glad to know that we're not completely associated with that evangelistic low life Blair et pals.
why the Albanians have been trying to prove that report of CoE envoy is faked? what is the point of such albanian demagogy? no dears the Albanians and Kosovars,you are not victimious nation any more. criminals and war perpetrators belongs to you and lead you with the same ideology,which you are tending to spread here. If I were Albanian I will be shamed.
If Thaci would care for for Kosovo as a state and not only for his own ego and pockets (and/or the ones of his buddies), he would stay away from politics and be quiet.
(Top, 24 December 2010 15:26)
Considering the hysterial panic in which he ended up, it looks that there is much more in the game than simply staying away from politics and enriching himself....
others no difference. But I don't think they will ever obtain enough evidence to indict (in any court other than Serbia) little on convict.
(pss, 24 December 2010 17:25)
But there is a big difference between a cucumber and the snake... if you type "cucumber" on google you will find one description,nothing serious, just a cucumber....now is you type, snake, kla, thaci, you will find a lof of news that are more or less always linking this angel to all sorts of criminal activities, so I disagree with Mike, he CAN'T be cool like a cucumber....
If Marty is innocent then he should feel very comfortable to face the judges and expose Thaci to his wrong doings.
Why innocent men as Marty need the immunity from a process in court????
(ben, 24 December 2010 13:56)
I think this is a bit too much for you to understand, yes, just imagine in a civilized world we have a system that is mabe not compatible to your wishes.
Be patient, Mr Marty has nothing to hide (unlike some others...) and when the time will be right, meaning a full investigation will finally take place, he will certainly disclose some more irrefutable proofs that he can't for the time being for obvious reasons....
If you are too impatient and do not like the way it goes, write to the COE and complain....
The blatherings of a guity snake. I hope tadic does meet with him and a picture of them shaking hands is published. That way, the Serbs can throw that american puppet out of office. I expect the highest Serb official mr. snake will meet is the minister for kosovo. Take a hint, boris, get eu candidate status before soiling your hand. I think you are stupid already; don't be a stupid negotiator.
To see that Marty’s document was prepared by someone else do this
Find the original report and try to copy and paste it to a word document. First part that is his opinion is written by him and it would be transferred no problem to a word document but the second part where the so called “evidence” is where is numbered it would not copy and paste to its entirety and it goes back to its original format. So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade.
Hash seems to be getting more and more unhinged in his responses. I agree with Top. If he's got nothing to hide, he'd be as cool as a cucumber instead of issuing bombastic statements daily that range from personal offence to calling everything a Russo-Serb conspiracy. Clearly the man has issues.
I also like the "pre-groomed" Thaci photo. He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
(Mike, 24 December 2010 16:47)
If it was released around the world that you had committed the crimes that Thaci has been accused of and you had to answer questions from reporters about it everytime you opened your door. If you were innocent you would be cool as a cucumber??? At least give an intelligent response.
You would be more likely to be cool as a cucumber if you were guilty as chances are you have no conscience.
I do believe that if there is evidence to support his guilt he should be punished the same as Mladic, Karadizic and others no difference. But I don't think they will ever obtain enough evidence to indict (in any court other than Serbia) little on convict.
He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
(Mike, 24 December 2010 16:47)
Yes I know.
ALL our UCK boys were irresistible.
They were all young boys, patriots that put everything that they had in service to the freedom of their people.
How could a normal person be indeferent to them???
How could a mother as Albright be indeferent to them???
They were simply irresistable.
In middle of Europe in the 21st century young people without exeprience without any backing poor but with highest moral values ready to sacrifice everything for their freedom:
He is 40 years old and someone else is preparing material for his talks with Serbia.
Once a cheat always a cheat and a puppet..
But rest of us remember General Noriegas fall from grace and televised capture..
That`s what i see for this clown..and how smart is he not to know that blowing hot air about suing Dick Marty will get few laughs around political elites.
But then we have albanian trolls here to entertain us with same mantra also..
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
(Ian, UK, 24 December 2010 14:33)
If you are the same Ian that I believed to be British, of British ancestry, then you have done a great job in misleading and deceiving us all. If you are British of British ancestry, then you probably work for that image-making outfit that Thaci spent millions on, on at least two occasions, or have worked for them in the past, and you have now chosen of your own free will to sell your soul for the organ harvesters of innocent human beings and for Tony Blair--whom the sane population of the world sees as the fruit loop that he is. If you are British of British ancestry, then you received a wad of cash to sell his country's good name. I will go to bed tonight believing that no British man or woman of true intelligence can believe that Serbia, at this point in time in her history can have so much influence on the European and international stage. If you are British of British ancestry,I DARE YOU to look at yourself in a mirror and repeat your post. I will continue to believe that you are not British with British ancestry, as I am one of England's great admirers for all the good that her people have contributed to the world of ideas, and I will continue to respect your right to your opinions, as I hope you will do for me. If you are not the Ian that I am familiar with--then someone is using your name for which he/she believes that somehow Truth will change.
Ben, allegations have been made against Thaci, not Marti. If the organ-harvesting crimes against Thaci and the KLA prove to be erroneous, then maybe Thaci has a claim? But I dought it, as political figures do have impunity. It would be like Serbia trying to bring Clinton and Blair for war crimes. It would be next to impossible.
Hash seems to be getting more and more unhinged in his responses. I agree with Top. If he's got nothing to hide, he'd be as cool as a cucumber instead of issuing bombastic statements daily that range from personal offence to calling everything a Russo-Serb conspiracy. Clearly the man has issues.
I also like the "pre-groomed" Thaci photo. He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
What has Dick Marty done wrong?
He only revealed Thaci's hidden past
nothing wrong with that right?
We would believe Thaci if he were a diplomat and talked with other party's in Kosovo, instead he took arms and was organ harvesting.
So I believe more in Dick Marty who does not have a criminal past!
"P.S. Bad move Dick, some people never forget."
(POL, 24 December 2010 14:06)
Where did I hear those words the last time? I don't remember. Could it be in an Al Capone movie? Some movie experts here who could provide us with the exact quote? ;-)
wow,how does this video incriminates Thaci, if he was holding a press confererence in front of foreign reporters?I have vivid memory of this particular press conference.
"Was Thaci really so stupid in only realising afterward that Marty had immunity, or was the suing idea a deliberate plan to make himself sound innocent? Yes, it seems to have impressed Kosovo Albanians, but no, looks like it was a trick... "
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Probably only some psycho doc can explain this behaviour. For me, it shows panic, and shows that there is something to hide. A confident person who knows that he has clean hands would act different, in my opinion, like: Go and investigate, you won't find anything. The green light for investigations from Kosovo only came after pressure from the USA.
"Of course Thaci can wait! He will become Prime Minister again. It is Kosovo's Albanians who will suffer and the independence project that will suffer a setback."
(bganon, 24 December 2010 14:23)
If Thaci would care for for Kosovo as a state and not only for his own ego and pockets (and/or the ones of his buddies), he would stay away from politics and be quiet.
"dick marty is a clown he has zero evidence for his report.thaci schould ignore him.let serbian media make 100 reports a day about that who cares?"
(mijari, 24 December 2010 15:00)
Sorry, Dick Marty is a renowned and reputable person from Switzerland who alredy discovered things like illegal prison camps and transports by the USA to some eastern european countries. The first reactions have been the same: "That's not possible". In the end, the truth came out. And no, it's not only Serbian media who makes reports, there are newspaper articles around the world, in the UK, France... whereever.
But I agree, Thaci should ignore him if he's innocent, and simply wait for the investigations. But what he's doing is threatening him and trying to turn a criminal case into a conspiration against Kosovo. For me, there's only one possible explanation why he acts like that: Panic and fear of the truth. A confident person with clean hands would not act like this, I think.
Ian, UK: "This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed."
You are going to feel like a real lowlife when in fact these charges are proven and you realise what the KLA have been doing to innocent people before, during and after 1999. It is well known that they are widely linked to drugs, kidnappings, prostitution, arms, human trafficking, and now the slaughter of people for their organs.
This is not, as you seem to think, some conspiracy against the KLA and Thaci whom you obviously think were (and are - they still exist) glamorous freedom fighters. Read the reports from the international security services, UN and NGO personnel and actually see who you are defending.
Honestly, you are so wrong. I assume you have a brain and some scruples which separates you from the likes of Blair and the former New Labourites who are still regurgitating untruths even after they've been withdrawn or disproven.
Anyway, I genuinely wish a happy Christmas to you and everyone on here and the b92 staff!! Cheers to you all!
Wishing you all a happy a prosperous 2011! Cheers m'dears!
"Hey Thaci, perhaps world hero mr Marty can one day be extradited to Pristina and face justice for telling the truth? "
The truth is that Dick Marty lied. See, had he told the truth he wouldn't need to hide behind the immunity for court. But justice is justice and Dick will face it
"Thaci showed to be a gentleman in this interview by giving Marty all the time he needs to hide behind the immunity. "
(ben, 24 December 2010 13:56)
Gentleman? Ha, you gave me a good laugh! Thank you! For me his words and threads against Marty sound more like the ones coming from a m***a boss: "You know, we'll get you one fine day, whereever you are, you cannot hide forever. I can wait". Now I wonder where he learnt to behave like that. Probably not at university, studying international politics and history ;-)
I guess Hash won't be converting to Western Christianity now that Christmas coincided with these revelations showing the world his perfidity. I doubt the real Christmas will be any better for him. Thanx again Russia!
Wow. More threads, more conspiracy theories. Now it's not only Marty, but Russia and Belgrade, too. Who else? Switzerland? The rest of the world, all against "Kosovo"? Who is politicizing and trying to turn a pure crime case against some alleged criminal organization and their leaders into a political plot against the 'state of Kosovo'?
Now we can see who really is in PANIC. Just like all the "conspiracy theories" of the evil WEST against Serbia, he's doing the same, with different roles.
The good thing is: The more he acts like that, the less credible he becomes. It's more and more obvious there must be something to hide. It's like when you fell into a swamp: The more you move, the deeper you'll get into it, until you are totally sunk. And I think he's really deep into it, already now.
“I’m a 40-year-old. I will wait until he loses his immunity and he will face justice. Just like I had patience to put up with all the curses for the past 15 years, I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty to lose his immunity,”
Wow! bravo, wants to hold Dick responsible himself. Dick Marty think he may committed the perfect crime and slandered people but plans are sometimes thwarted. If Dick lied on purpose he should be held responsible, we all agree on that. Is Dick sleeping well at night, since he has no conscience?
Many and many of your soldiers were taking prison by the Albanians and your so-called superior army bought them all back. Serb Army paid with weaponery.
And here is the "clue": "Serbian soldiers were killed by their own guns"
Ofcourse this is a Beograd/Moscow initiative which is now being confirmed by political world leaders.
The accused Turkish Doctor stated he was never in Albania.
The owners of the yellow house were interviewed this week and stated that Mr Marty had "human bones" in the trunk of his car which he wanted to put in the yellow house (= false evidence).
The owner refused this and he left.
Internation doctors, as well as Serb doctors, says it is not possible to operate people in these kind of environment because of infection.
My point is and will be:
If these crimes have happened the persons involved (whomever) should be confronted with justice (The Hague).
Thaci isn't being a gentleman in 'giving' Marty time. Time is not Thaci's to give, he has no choice in this matter.
Secondly its quite natural that Thaci has nothing to lose from Marty's immunity, if he is guilty. Was Thaci really so stupid in only realising afterward that Marty had immunity, or was the suing idea a deliberate plan to make himself sound innocent? Yes, it seems to have impressed Kosovo Albanians, but no, looks like it was a trick...
Of course Thaci can wait! He will become Prime Minister again. It is Kosovo's Albanians who will suffer and the independence project that will suffer a setback.
That is even more true if the people of Kosovo are as servile and loving towards Thaci as you seem to be.
Between you and me, the best way to neutralise this one is to get rid of him.
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
Is there in this video Kuschner operating Serbs taking organs, putting in his luggage and flying to Paris unchecked (at airport) to sell it in France and the WEST?
Dick Marty you didnt insulted Thaci and his criminal network but the Albanian population when you pointed the finger at UCK
(Pejoni, 24 December 2010 14:01)
1) But what if UÇK is a network which has numerous members who are in a criminal network?
2) How about Albanians who do not want to associate them self with UÇK?
Thaci said “… the talks would be held soon and that the West was making extensive preparations.
According to Thaci, frozen relations between Kosovo and Serbia are not in their interest or in the interest of the U.S. and the EU.”
Thaci is waiting for his extensive orders from 'the west'.
The Snake will do exactly as he is told to do by the U.S.
Hey Thaci, perhaps world hero mr Marty can one day be extradited to Pristina and face justice for telling the truth? You can't threaten Marty like you threaten your own people to keep quiet. The truth will get out. Not even your suggar daddy the US can stop that from happening.
I'm Yorkshire born n' bred. I have English, Scottish and Welsh heritage if you must know. Also you will not go to bed on Christmas eve "believing that no British man or woman of true intelligence can believe that Serbia, at this point in time in her history can have so much influence on the European and international stage"... I'm sure you have more important things to think about tonight, like what time shall I put the goose in the oven. You do realise the Russians have influence too matey... then there is bribery which the Russians and Serbs are no stranger to. For example the Russians building nuclear power stations in Bangladesh and Pakistan to stop them from recognising Kosovo, not to mention the money they paid Nauru and military equipment Venezuela received as well as the money they are offering Ecuador and Belarus to recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Also when PNG announced it was going to recognise Kosovo, Serbia suddenly "gave" them loads of military goods to help modernise their military. You sir will look a fool when Marty is unable to prove that Thaci was connected to the Organ trade. The only evidence apart from this video which proves nothing, which Marty will be able to produce is some witnesses which Serbia has bribed. This will be an epic fail on Marty's behalf.
Wow. More threads, more conspiracy theories. Now it's not only Marty, but Russia and Belgrade, too. Who else? Switzerland? The rest of the world, all against "Kosovo"? Who is politicizing and trying to turn a pure crime case against some alleged criminal organization and their leaders into a political plot against the 'state of Kosovo'?
Now we can see who really is in PANIC. Just like all the "conspiracy theories" of the evil WEST against Serbia, he's doing the same, with different roles.
The good thing is: The more he acts like that, the less credible he becomes. It's more and more obvious there must be something to hide. It's like when you fell into a swamp: The more you move, the deeper you'll get into it, until you are totally sunk. And I think he's really deep into it, already now.
Ian, UK: "This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed."
You are going to feel like a real lowlife when in fact these charges are proven and you realise what the KLA have been doing to innocent people before, during and after 1999. It is well known that they are widely linked to drugs, kidnappings, prostitution, arms, human trafficking, and now the slaughter of people for their organs.
This is not, as you seem to think, some conspiracy against the KLA and Thaci whom you obviously think were (and are - they still exist) glamorous freedom fighters. Read the reports from the international security services, UN and NGO personnel and actually see who you are defending.
Honestly, you are so wrong. I assume you have a brain and some scruples which separates you from the likes of Blair and the former New Labourites who are still regurgitating untruths even after they've been withdrawn or disproven.
Anyway, I genuinely wish a happy Christmas to you and everyone on here and the b92 staff!! Cheers to you all!
Wishing you all a happy a prosperous 2011! Cheers m'dears!
"Thaci showed to be a gentleman in this interview by giving Marty all the time he needs to hide behind the immunity. "
(ben, 24 December 2010 13:56)
Gentleman? Ha, you gave me a good laugh! Thank you! For me his words and threads against Marty sound more like the ones coming from a m***a boss: "You know, we'll get you one fine day, whereever you are, you cannot hide forever. I can wait". Now I wonder where he learnt to behave like that. Probably not at university, studying international politics and history ;-)
Thaci isn't being a gentleman in 'giving' Marty time. Time is not Thaci's to give, he has no choice in this matter.
Secondly its quite natural that Thaci has nothing to lose from Marty's immunity, if he is guilty. Was Thaci really so stupid in only realising afterward that Marty had immunity, or was the suing idea a deliberate plan to make himself sound innocent? Yes, it seems to have impressed Kosovo Albanians, but no, looks like it was a trick...
Of course Thaci can wait! He will become Prime Minister again. It is Kosovo's Albanians who will suffer and the independence project that will suffer a setback.
That is even more true if the people of Kosovo are as servile and loving towards Thaci as you seem to be.
Between you and me, the best way to neutralise this one is to get rid of him.
Hey Thaci, perhaps world hero mr Marty can one day be extradited to Pristina and face justice for telling the truth? You can't threaten Marty like you threaten your own people to keep quiet. The truth will get out. Not even your suggar daddy the US can stop that from happening.
Hash seems to be getting more and more unhinged in his responses. I agree with Top. If he's got nothing to hide, he'd be as cool as a cucumber instead of issuing bombastic statements daily that range from personal offence to calling everything a Russo-Serb conspiracy. Clearly the man has issues.
I also like the "pre-groomed" Thaci photo. He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
Thaci said “… the talks would be held soon and that the West was making extensive preparations.
According to Thaci, frozen relations between Kosovo and Serbia are not in their interest or in the interest of the U.S. and the EU.”
Thaci is waiting for his extensive orders from 'the west'.
The Snake will do exactly as he is told to do by the U.S.
"P.S. Bad move Dick, some people never forget."
(POL, 24 December 2010 14:06)
Where did I hear those words the last time? I don't remember. Could it be in an Al Capone movie? Some movie experts here who could provide us with the exact quote? ;-)
Dick Marty you didnt insulted Thaci and his criminal network but the Albanian population when you pointed the finger at UCK
(Pejoni, 24 December 2010 14:01)
1) But what if UÇK is a network which has numerous members who are in a criminal network?
2) How about Albanians who do not want to associate them self with UÇK?
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
(Ian, UK, 24 December 2010 14:33)
If you are the same Ian that I believed to be British, of British ancestry, then you have done a great job in misleading and deceiving us all. If you are British of British ancestry, then you probably work for that image-making outfit that Thaci spent millions on, on at least two occasions, or have worked for them in the past, and you have now chosen of your own free will to sell your soul for the organ harvesters of innocent human beings and for Tony Blair--whom the sane population of the world sees as the fruit loop that he is. If you are British of British ancestry, then you received a wad of cash to sell his country's good name. I will go to bed tonight believing that no British man or woman of true intelligence can believe that Serbia, at this point in time in her history can have so much influence on the European and international stage. If you are British of British ancestry,I DARE YOU to look at yourself in a mirror and repeat your post. I will continue to believe that you are not British with British ancestry, as I am one of England's great admirers for all the good that her people have contributed to the world of ideas, and I will continue to respect your right to your opinions, as I hope you will do for me. If you are not the Ian that I am familiar with--then someone is using your name for which he/she believes that somehow Truth will change.
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
What has Dick Marty done wrong?
He only revealed Thaci's hidden past
nothing wrong with that right?
We would believe Thaci if he were a diplomat and talked with other party's in Kosovo, instead he took arms and was organ harvesting.
So I believe more in Dick Marty who does not have a criminal past!
I guess Hash won't be converting to Western Christianity now that Christmas coincided with these revelations showing the world his perfidity. I doubt the real Christmas will be any better for him. Thanx again Russia!
"Was Thaci really so stupid in only realising afterward that Marty had immunity, or was the suing idea a deliberate plan to make himself sound innocent? Yes, it seems to have impressed Kosovo Albanians, but no, looks like it was a trick... "
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Probably only some psycho doc can explain this behaviour. For me, it shows panic, and shows that there is something to hide. A confident person who knows that he has clean hands would act different, in my opinion, like: Go and investigate, you won't find anything. The green light for investigations from Kosovo only came after pressure from the USA.
"Of course Thaci can wait! He will become Prime Minister again. It is Kosovo's Albanians who will suffer and the independence project that will suffer a setback."
(bganon, 24 December 2010 14:23)
If Thaci would care for for Kosovo as a state and not only for his own ego and pockets (and/or the ones of his buddies), he would stay away from politics and be quiet.
"dick marty is a clown he has zero evidence for his report.thaci schould ignore him.let serbian media make 100 reports a day about that who cares?"
(mijari, 24 December 2010 15:00)
Sorry, Dick Marty is a renowned and reputable person from Switzerland who alredy discovered things like illegal prison camps and transports by the USA to some eastern european countries. The first reactions have been the same: "That's not possible". In the end, the truth came out. And no, it's not only Serbian media who makes reports, there are newspaper articles around the world, in the UK, France... whereever.
But I agree, Thaci should ignore him if he's innocent, and simply wait for the investigations. But what he's doing is threatening him and trying to turn a criminal case into a conspiration against Kosovo. For me, there's only one possible explanation why he acts like that: Panic and fear of the truth. A confident person with clean hands would not act like this, I think.
So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade.
(Albi, 24 December 2010 18:59)
Are you by chance wearing pink glasses or maybe you smoked something unhealthy !
He is 40 years old and someone else is preparing material for his talks with Serbia.
Once a cheat always a cheat and a puppet..
But rest of us remember General Noriegas fall from grace and televised capture..
That`s what i see for this clown..and how smart is he not to know that blowing hot air about suing Dick Marty will get few laughs around political elites.
But then we have albanian trolls here to entertain us with same mantra also..
If Marty is innocent then he should feel very comfortable to face the judges and expose Thaci to his wrong doings.
Why innocent men as Marty need the immunity from a process in court????
(ben, 24 December 2010 13:56)
I think this is a bit too much for you to understand, yes, just imagine in a civilized world we have a system that is mabe not compatible to your wishes.
Be patient, Mr Marty has nothing to hide (unlike some others...) and when the time will be right, meaning a full investigation will finally take place, he will certainly disclose some more irrefutable proofs that he can't for the time being for obvious reasons....
If you are too impatient and do not like the way it goes, write to the COE and complain....
Is there in this video Kuschner operating Serbs taking organs, putting in his luggage and flying to Paris unchecked (at airport) to sell it in France and the WEST?
Ben, allegations have been made against Thaci, not Marti. If the organ-harvesting crimes against Thaci and the KLA prove to be erroneous, then maybe Thaci has a claim? But I dought it, as political figures do have impunity. It would be like Serbia trying to bring Clinton and Blair for war crimes. It would be next to impossible.
others no difference. But I don't think they will ever obtain enough evidence to indict (in any court other than Serbia) little on convict.
(pss, 24 December 2010 17:25)
But there is a big difference between a cucumber and the snake... if you type "cucumber" on google you will find one description,nothing serious, just a cucumber....now is you type, snake, kla, thaci, you will find a lof of news that are more or less always linking this angel to all sorts of criminal activities, so I disagree with Mike, he CAN'T be cool like a cucumber....
The blatherings of a guity snake. I hope tadic does meet with him and a picture of them shaking hands is published. That way, the Serbs can throw that american puppet out of office. I expect the highest Serb official mr. snake will meet is the minister for kosovo. Take a hint, boris, get eu candidate status before soiling your hand. I think you are stupid already; don't be a stupid negotiator.
If Thaci would care for for Kosovo as a state and not only for his own ego and pockets (and/or the ones of his buddies), he would stay away from politics and be quiet.
(Top, 24 December 2010 15:26)
Considering the hysterial panic in which he ended up, it looks that there is much more in the game than simply staying away from politics and enriching himself....
why the Albanians have been trying to prove that report of CoE envoy is faked? what is the point of such albanian demagogy? no dears the Albanians and Kosovars,you are not victimious nation any more. criminals and war perpetrators belongs to you and lead you with the same ideology,which you are tending to spread here. If I were Albanian I will be shamed.
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
(Mike, 24 December 2010 16:47)
Yes I know.
ALL our UCK boys were irresistible.
They were all young boys, patriots that put everything that they had in service to the freedom of their people.
How could a normal person be indeferent to them???
How could a mother as Albright be indeferent to them???
They were simply irresistable.
In middle of Europe in the 21st century young people without exeprience without any backing poor but with highest moral values ready to sacrifice everything for their freedom:
“I’m a 40-year-old. I will wait until he loses his immunity and he will face justice. Just like I had patience to put up with all the curses for the past 15 years, I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty to lose his immunity,”
Wow! bravo, wants to hold Dick responsible himself. Dick Marty think he may committed the perfect crime and slandered people but plans are sometimes thwarted. If Dick lied on purpose he should be held responsible, we all agree on that. Is Dick sleeping well at night, since he has no conscience?
"Hey Thaci, perhaps world hero mr Marty can one day be extradited to Pristina and face justice for telling the truth? "
The truth is that Dick Marty lied. See, had he told the truth he wouldn't need to hide behind the immunity for court. But justice is justice and Dick will face it
wow,how does this video incriminates Thaci, if he was holding a press confererence in front of foreign reporters?I have vivid memory of this particular press conference.
Many and many of your soldiers were taking prison by the Albanians and your so-called superior army bought them all back. Serb Army paid with weaponery.
And here is the "clue": "Serbian soldiers were killed by their own guns"
Ofcourse this is a Beograd/Moscow initiative which is now being confirmed by political world leaders.
The accused Turkish Doctor stated he was never in Albania.
The owners of the yellow house were interviewed this week and stated that Mr Marty had "human bones" in the trunk of his car which he wanted to put in the yellow house (= false evidence).
The owner refused this and he left.
Internation doctors, as well as Serb doctors, says it is not possible to operate people in these kind of environment because of infection.
My point is and will be:
If these crimes have happened the persons involved (whomever) should be confronted with justice (The Hague).
Hash seems to be getting more and more unhinged in his responses. I agree with Top. If he's got nothing to hide, he'd be as cool as a cucumber instead of issuing bombastic statements daily that range from personal offence to calling everything a Russo-Serb conspiracy. Clearly the man has issues.
I also like the "pre-groomed" Thaci photo. He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
(Mike, 24 December 2010 16:47)
If it was released around the world that you had committed the crimes that Thaci has been accused of and you had to answer questions from reporters about it everytime you opened your door. If you were innocent you would be cool as a cucumber??? At least give an intelligent response.
You would be more likely to be cool as a cucumber if you were guilty as chances are you have no conscience.
I do believe that if there is evidence to support his guilt he should be punished the same as Mladic, Karadizic and others no difference. But I don't think they will ever obtain enough evidence to indict (in any court other than Serbia) little on convict.
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
You know nothing about weapons and how you should hold any.. That photo is a military/combat fiasco promotion and can cause laughing and nothing else. I saw the whole set of those and there's not a single one convincing., by mistake- at least. Those things make me jump during the night and bite my pillow., how's that possible actually?! How's possible that such a shepherd morons receive all that help of the US/NATO and become any kind of "heroes"..
I have no doubt that all five of those have individually killed innocent people but that's other story..
Your mind should be blown away once you can see anything cool there.
What's cool there?
Of course, you're proud that they hold some weapons- at least while not "bringing the water" for US/NATO troops only. That big heroes you have. Show this picture to any trained soldiers and you'll see showing with a finger and laughing after few seconds. Try!
"So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade. "
(Albi, 24 December 2010 18:59)
First people accuse Marty of spinning tales and inventing stories, now that he was quoting or copying text excerpts from other documents, it's suddenly 'plagiarizing'. Btw, I heard for both, the punishment is death penalty in the democratic and multietnic dream state of Kosovo. Always remember the gentlemen's words: "I can wait, I'm only 40, I will get you, wherever you are" ;-) Merry X-mas!
To see that Marty’s document was prepared by someone else do this
Find the original report and try to copy and paste it to a word document. First part that is his opinion is written by him and it would be transferred no problem to a word document but the second part where the so called “evidence” is where is numbered it would not copy and paste to its entirety and it goes back to its original format. So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade.
You sir will look a fool when Marty is unable to prove that Thaci was connected to the Organ trade. The only evidence apart from this video which proves nothing, which Marty will be able to produce is some witnesses which Serbia has bribed. This will be an epic fail on Marty's behalf.
(Ian, UK, 25 December 2010 02:29
There is absoltely nothing in the depth of my mind right now that I can pull out
to respond to your imagination other than the following: Almost all of the key evidence was deliberately destroyed with the intent to hide the truth and protect all of the criminals involved directly and by association, which sadly also include your icon--Tony Blair.There were also witnesses to organ harvesting that have mysteriously disappeared. But you already know that better than I do,Ian.
So Ian, tell us all, are these the facts that are the core of your defense to your ego and the Albanian cause? If not, what are they?
Did you ever have a conversation with someone that you were actually deeply involved in emotionally, psychologically, intellectually, and all of your efforts directed at satisfying your need to prove yourself right? And at some point, a little light goes off in your brain and you see the futility and hopelessness of the ego's charades, and rise above the situation, and say--who cares? I have on many occasions. But every now and then when I moisten my soul,in my mind, I hear the song: The Lion This Time, by Van Morrison, and it wakes up in me the memory and the habit of thinking that my purpose is to carry a torch for some cause of righteousness.
That requires judgment on my part, which weighs heavily on my soul, and it's in those times that I need to be reminded that I am no "Archangel Michael".
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
(Ian, UK, 24 December 2010 14:33)
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Dick Marty is NOT Serbian. How is this Serbia attacking anyone?
Ian, spoken like a true Albanian.
I now you say you are British, but I'm sure you have Albanian blood running though you veins.
I am Australian but the blood running through my veins is Serbian.
Don't be ashamed of your heritage, well not just yet. Wait till this is all proven but don't blame the Serbs for your own people's sins.
Ian, are you originaly from Beverley in Yorhshire? Just curious.
Regarding your comments, even you are not Albanian you must have some connection with Albanians.
I just dont want to comment on your writings here as you are the biggest hypocrite. Maybe next time you should coment on some Albanian websites where your comments will be more apriciated.
Thaci is 40? I always assumed he was in his mid 50's. Guilt, shame and stress are powerful agents of premature aging. No rest for the wicked afterall. Not only does he look like his usual obtuse and goonish self but hopefully justice is served before he leaves this world. Is this the best that the Albanians have to govern them? A thuggish figure with no significant skills or accomplishments?
and you do not even know it. You are right about one thing though, I do wear glasses made by Ralph Lauren with transition lessees.
(Albi, 25 December 2010 00:22)
waooo, great, you are privilegded... and at least I managed to tackle something behind the glasses.... Now if you do not like my comments, don't read them, as simple as that. And yes, am happy to have Serbian friends, like I do have Albanian friends, with a little difference, they don't wear pink ralph lauren glasses and do not keep the head in the sand.
Cheers and good luck
Is it me or does a video of the Drenica KLA camp with these kidnapped Serbs not hint that he is already guilty of ATLEAST the kidnapping allegations? And howcome none of you terrorist supporting K-Albs have anything to say about the video? Does denial have it's limits?
The kosovan experiment is over. We all know it deep down. It has been a criminal enterprise from the start. Let's move on, split kosovo, and get away from them. And make the border watertight, the Kalbs are desperate to get out of their self made hell hole.
When Jean Piaget (Swiss by the way) explained the development of intelligence, he used a matrix that placed autistic thought at the bottom because it's neither communicable nor directed toward understanding phenomena. At the top he placed communicable thought because it seeks evidence to verify beliefs and it is indeed communicable. The second lowest form of intelligence he defined as magical thinking for although it is communicable it is not directed at discovering the truth. From what I see, most Albanians defending Thaci are stuck in this magical mode of thinking as they eschew evidence as being counterproductive. While there are certainly some Serbs on this site who get too excited about any piece of evidence, for the most part they have uttered similar sentiments, such as "all we want is a thorough investigation." Thus, their reasoning is clearly higher than magical thinking. Now, enter Dick Marty, a non-Serb from one of the Western countries revered by Kalbs, Switzerland, for it is the land of money. After a meticulous two year investigation, he published his report. If anyone knows the Swiss, they are not ones to jump to conclusions without gathering ample facts. Mr. Marty presented his report and requested a thorough investigation. All of the sudden, however, to Albanians he became something totally different, some kind of fiend who is protecting Serbs and is only interested in damning Albanians. Such is the power of assimilation. When people refuse to change their world views, they seek to assimilate every bit of information into their present world views. Smart people change their world views to accommodate new information. The question is, are you Albanians smart or not? If you are smart, you will wait for all the evidence to make itself known and change your worldviews to accommodate this information. If you are not smart, you will force every new bit of information to fit into your present worldview. For my part, I'll sit back and wait to see the evidence before deciding guilt. Then again, I'm not an Albanian.
“I’m a 40-year-old. I will wait until he loses his immunity and he will face justice. Just like I had patience to put up with all the curses for the past 15 years, I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty to lose his immunity,” he added.
There are good chances you won't be 45 year old, Mr. Snake. You know to much and some of your masters don't like people who know to much.
The blatherings of a guity snake. I hope tadic does meet with him and a picture of them shaking hands is published. That way, the Serbs can throw that american puppet out of office. I expect the highest Serb official mr. snake will meet is the minister for kosovo. Take a hint, boris, get eu candidate status before soiling your hand. I think you are stupid already; don't be a stupid negotiator.
(JohnBoy, 24 December 2010 19:13)
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I agree. I cannot believe that any Serb would want to shake the hand that butchered his brothers and sisters.
This is the utmost betrayal of your people Mr Tadic.
At least wait until the investigation takes place and take it from there.
What is Tadic going to say when the snake is found guilty? No amount of disinfectant will ever remove the stain and stench of that hand he shook.
I agree with JohnBoy. I actually like Tadic from an international perspective, but I think it would be a BIG mistake to shake hands with Thaci. And I for one would be really disgusted and it would confirm the doubts that have been creeping in recently.
Daredevil - very happy to hear you say nice things about the British. Thank you and glad to know that we're not completely associated with that evangelistic low life Blair et pals.
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
(Je¿ osadzony)
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Yes, only the best treatment for these individuals. So heroic and brave; I mean they have mastered the term "a*# kisser", only true brave people can be so honour-less. :)
Is this the best that the Albanians have to govern them? A thuggish figure with no significant skills or accomplishments?
(nick, 25 December 2010 07:56)
Actually we do have a lot, but this is the best when dealing with Serbs. He is only 40 and won couple of battles such as Rambouillet pushing NATO and the world against Serbia, remaining in good collaboration with western countries and gaining the support for the independence of Kosova. Something similar happened with ICJ, and I believe Dick Mary – the last hope of Jeremic to win the diplomatic battle for Kosovo, is going to be a piece of cake for him.
In addition, Kosovo Serbs, except those in north Mitrovica, like him. They trust him because looks like he is a trustful guy. Probably they share the same impression with Clinton, Bush, Blair etc. Do not be surprised if during his next 4 years mandate he is going to be liked by Serbs in North Mitrovica. Looks like he is a good guy who keeps the promis.
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
(Je¿ osadzony, 24 December 2010 21:32)
Have you checked the jails lately? There is no more room for any one else, they are full with Serb heroes.
Didnt the serbs and Del Ponte try to blame albanians for this organ traficking already?
I am afraid that this will come back and hit the serbs again and Kosovo albanians will end up as winners just like it happened with the ICJ decision and the UN resolution in september.
I am afraid serbs will loose again this time with this.
so I disagree with Mike, he CAN'T be cool like a cucumber....
(The Swiss, 24 December 2010 20:58)
Anytime he could end up like a cucumber: sliced into pieces by his former masters. Having such "relatives" like the godfathers of certain three-letter companies (BND, CIA, KGB) means you can't be secure, in particular if you know more, than what they want you to know.
Regardless who you are - God bless and stay as far away from all these as you can, makes better sleeps at night.
"I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty"
God bless you Thaci! I think Dick Marty only knows what he has done, someone might have explained him how such insults are dealt with. Notice how he is very careful on what he says now. No one has enough immunity
Are you by chance wearing pink glasses or maybe you smoked something unhealthy !
Egocentrism and wickedness on your statement are very oblivious . It does not take a rocket scientist to see your shameless statements. You feel like you are right all times and other people are wrong. Evidence is the one that wins on the end and belittlement is one of the characteristics of Serbian propaganda which even in this modest forum such B92 is plenty. Go team Serbia go because what are you doing just keeping the fire alive. As for you Swiss Serbian “brother” you are wearing those pink glasses for long time and you do not even know it. You are right about one thing though, I do wear glasses made by Ralph Lauren with transition lessees.
To mister Serbian Swiss these are the figures not the demagogy that you are full of. Here from Marty’s report: # 16
Of more than 6,000 disappearances on which the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has opened files, approximately 1,400 individuals have been found alive and 2,500 corpses have been found and identified. For the most part, these were Albanian Kosovar victims found in mass graves in regions under Serbian control and in Kosovo. To the almost 1,900 persons who went missing during the conflict and whose fate has still not been established (approximately two-thirds of whom are Albanian Kosovars) must be added almost 500 persons who disappeared after the arrival of KFOR troops on 12 June 1999, about 100 of whom were Albanian Kosovars and close to 400 non-Albanians, most of them Serbians.
My math
6000 -1400 alive = 4600 – 2500 corpses= 2100 ( FOR THE MOST PART THESE WERE ALBANIANS- it means that plus minus 90 %)
1900 were missing during the conflict two thirds Albanian (can you see the theme not Serbian mentioned until now just Albanians)
500 after the conflict 100 of them Albanians and close 400 non Albanians most of them Serbs
So how many Serbs are missing he is not saying
This is very ridiculous Albanians killed in total are 13000 Serbs not even around 500.
Marty should look in Serbian for war crimes not in Kosovo
Now mister Swiss who is wearing pink glasses and smoking a joint?
"why the Albanians have been trying to prove that report of CoE envoy is faked? what is the point of such albanian demagogy? no dears the Albanians and Kosovars,you are not victimious nation any more. criminals and war perpetrators belongs to you and lead you with the same ideology,which you are tending to spread here. If I were Albanian I will be shamed.
Realist"
- Realist, do you know the meaning of the word 'realism'?
Apparently not!
It's the Serb government which aids and abeds war criminals. And, they are the ones leading your country.
Perhaps, it is you who should be ashamed to be Serbian!
Ian, are you originaly from Beverley in Yorhshire? Just curious.
Regarding your comments, even you are not Albanian you must have some connection with Albanians.
I just dont want to comment on your writings here as you are the biggest hypocrite. Maybe next time you should coment on some Albanian websites where your comments will be more apriciated.
(Tomashenko, 25 December 2010 14:54)
I'm from near Bradford in West Yorkshire. I have pretty much no contact with any Albanians, I know a few Serbs though, they're good people.
Peggy-for once you must AGREE with me YES. Amer,Ian UK ,Johny and many more are GENIUS human , who make me proud to be Kosovar
(L-pz, 25 December 2010 14:46)
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Actually you are deluded. There is no such race as a kosovar race. People living in Kosovo are Serbs, Albanians, Roma or any other minority but none of them are Kosovars.
All those men you mentioned are patriotic Albanians and I agree, they would make anyone look good.
I'm from near Bradford in West Yorkshire. I have pretty much no contact with any Albanians, I know a few Serbs though, they're good people.
(Ian, UK, 25 December 2010 18:42)
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What about that Albanian family from Kosovo you said lived with you for a while when they came to England as refugees?
You know the ones who could not speak English and yet you somehow understood just how evil Serbs were and took everything they told you as gospel.
Don't you keep in touch with them any more?
BTW, if you had any Serb friends you would not be on every site writing bad things about Serbs. Somehow I don't think your Serb friends would appreciate it. Do they know what you say about Serbs behind their back?
in yugo era plenty ppl felt yugoslav why not now I can't feel kosovar.You need to refresh your mind of Milosevic era because is dead and buried.And you are desperate to stop IanUK what is telling the trueth
“I’m a 40-year-old. I will wait until he loses his immunity and he will face justice. Just like I had patience to put up with all the curses for the past 15 years, I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty to lose his immunity,”
Wow! bravo, wants to hold Dick responsible himself. Dick Marty think he may committed the perfect crime and slandered people but plans are sometimes thwarted. If Dick lied on purpose he should be held responsible, we all agree on that. Is Dick sleeping well at night, since he has no conscience?
wow,how does this video incriminates Thaci, if he was holding a press confererence in front of foreign reporters?I have vivid memory of this particular press conference.
Is there in this video Kuschner operating Serbs taking organs, putting in his luggage and flying to Paris unchecked (at airport) to sell it in France and the WEST?
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
"Hey Thaci, perhaps world hero mr Marty can one day be extradited to Pristina and face justice for telling the truth? "
The truth is that Dick Marty lied. See, had he told the truth he wouldn't need to hide behind the immunity for court. But justice is justice and Dick will face it
Many and many of your soldiers were taking prison by the Albanians and your so-called superior army bought them all back. Serb Army paid with weaponery.
And here is the "clue": "Serbian soldiers were killed by their own guns"
Ofcourse this is a Beograd/Moscow initiative which is now being confirmed by political world leaders.
The accused Turkish Doctor stated he was never in Albania.
The owners of the yellow house were interviewed this week and stated that Mr Marty had "human bones" in the trunk of his car which he wanted to put in the yellow house (= false evidence).
The owner refused this and he left.
Internation doctors, as well as Serb doctors, says it is not possible to operate people in these kind of environment because of infection.
My point is and will be:
If these crimes have happened the persons involved (whomever) should be confronted with justice (The Hague).
To see that Marty’s document was prepared by someone else do this
Find the original report and try to copy and paste it to a word document. First part that is his opinion is written by him and it would be transferred no problem to a word document but the second part where the so called “evidence” is where is numbered it would not copy and paste to its entirety and it goes back to its original format. So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade.
He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
(Mike, 24 December 2010 16:47)
Yes I know.
ALL our UCK boys were irresistible.
They were all young boys, patriots that put everything that they had in service to the freedom of their people.
How could a normal person be indeferent to them???
How could a mother as Albright be indeferent to them???
They were simply irresistable.
In middle of Europe in the 21st century young people without exeprience without any backing poor but with highest moral values ready to sacrifice everything for their freedom:
Hey Thaci, perhaps world hero mr Marty can one day be extradited to Pristina and face justice for telling the truth? You can't threaten Marty like you threaten your own people to keep quiet. The truth will get out. Not even your suggar daddy the US can stop that from happening.
Dick Marty you didnt insulted Thaci and his criminal network but the Albanian population when you pointed the finger at UCK
(Pejoni, 24 December 2010 14:01)
1) But what if UÇK is a network which has numerous members who are in a criminal network?
2) How about Albanians who do not want to associate them self with UÇK?
Hash seems to be getting more and more unhinged in his responses. I agree with Top. If he's got nothing to hide, he'd be as cool as a cucumber instead of issuing bombastic statements daily that range from personal offence to calling everything a Russo-Serb conspiracy. Clearly the man has issues.
I also like the "pre-groomed" Thaci photo. He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
(Mike, 24 December 2010 16:47)
If it was released around the world that you had committed the crimes that Thaci has been accused of and you had to answer questions from reporters about it everytime you opened your door. If you were innocent you would be cool as a cucumber??? At least give an intelligent response.
You would be more likely to be cool as a cucumber if you were guilty as chances are you have no conscience.
I do believe that if there is evidence to support his guilt he should be punished the same as Mladic, Karadizic and others no difference. But I don't think they will ever obtain enough evidence to indict (in any court other than Serbia) little on convict.
Wow. More threads, more conspiracy theories. Now it's not only Marty, but Russia and Belgrade, too. Who else? Switzerland? The rest of the world, all against "Kosovo"? Who is politicizing and trying to turn a pure crime case against some alleged criminal organization and their leaders into a political plot against the 'state of Kosovo'?
Now we can see who really is in PANIC. Just like all the "conspiracy theories" of the evil WEST against Serbia, he's doing the same, with different roles.
The good thing is: The more he acts like that, the less credible he becomes. It's more and more obvious there must be something to hide. It's like when you fell into a swamp: The more you move, the deeper you'll get into it, until you are totally sunk. And I think he's really deep into it, already now.
I'm Yorkshire born n' bred. I have English, Scottish and Welsh heritage if you must know. Also you will not go to bed on Christmas eve "believing that no British man or woman of true intelligence can believe that Serbia, at this point in time in her history can have so much influence on the European and international stage"... I'm sure you have more important things to think about tonight, like what time shall I put the goose in the oven. You do realise the Russians have influence too matey... then there is bribery which the Russians and Serbs are no stranger to. For example the Russians building nuclear power stations in Bangladesh and Pakistan to stop them from recognising Kosovo, not to mention the money they paid Nauru and military equipment Venezuela received as well as the money they are offering Ecuador and Belarus to recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Also when PNG announced it was going to recognise Kosovo, Serbia suddenly "gave" them loads of military goods to help modernise their military. You sir will look a fool when Marty is unable to prove that Thaci was connected to the Organ trade. The only evidence apart from this video which proves nothing, which Marty will be able to produce is some witnesses which Serbia has bribed. This will be an epic fail on Marty's behalf.
I guess Hash won't be converting to Western Christianity now that Christmas coincided with these revelations showing the world his perfidity. I doubt the real Christmas will be any better for him. Thanx again Russia!
Ian, UK: "This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed."
You are going to feel like a real lowlife when in fact these charges are proven and you realise what the KLA have been doing to innocent people before, during and after 1999. It is well known that they are widely linked to drugs, kidnappings, prostitution, arms, human trafficking, and now the slaughter of people for their organs.
This is not, as you seem to think, some conspiracy against the KLA and Thaci whom you obviously think were (and are - they still exist) glamorous freedom fighters. Read the reports from the international security services, UN and NGO personnel and actually see who you are defending.
Honestly, you are so wrong. I assume you have a brain and some scruples which separates you from the likes of Blair and the former New Labourites who are still regurgitating untruths even after they've been withdrawn or disproven.
Anyway, I genuinely wish a happy Christmas to you and everyone on here and the b92 staff!! Cheers to you all!
Wishing you all a happy a prosperous 2011! Cheers m'dears!
Thaci said “… the talks would be held soon and that the West was making extensive preparations.
According to Thaci, frozen relations between Kosovo and Serbia are not in their interest or in the interest of the U.S. and the EU.”
Thaci is waiting for his extensive orders from 'the west'.
The Snake will do exactly as he is told to do by the U.S.
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
"I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty"
God bless you Thaci! I think Dick Marty only knows what he has done, someone might have explained him how such insults are dealt with. Notice how he is very careful on what he says now. No one has enough immunity
What has Dick Marty done wrong?
He only revealed Thaci's hidden past
nothing wrong with that right?
We would believe Thaci if he were a diplomat and talked with other party's in Kosovo, instead he took arms and was organ harvesting.
So I believe more in Dick Marty who does not have a criminal past!
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
(Ian, UK, 24 December 2010 14:33)
If you are the same Ian that I believed to be British, of British ancestry, then you have done a great job in misleading and deceiving us all. If you are British of British ancestry, then you probably work for that image-making outfit that Thaci spent millions on, on at least two occasions, or have worked for them in the past, and you have now chosen of your own free will to sell your soul for the organ harvesters of innocent human beings and for Tony Blair--whom the sane population of the world sees as the fruit loop that he is. If you are British of British ancestry, then you received a wad of cash to sell his country's good name. I will go to bed tonight believing that no British man or woman of true intelligence can believe that Serbia, at this point in time in her history can have so much influence on the European and international stage. If you are British of British ancestry,I DARE YOU to look at yourself in a mirror and repeat your post. I will continue to believe that you are not British with British ancestry, as I am one of England's great admirers for all the good that her people have contributed to the world of ideas, and I will continue to respect your right to your opinions, as I hope you will do for me. If you are not the Ian that I am familiar with--then someone is using your name for which he/she believes that somehow Truth will change.
why the Albanians have been trying to prove that report of CoE envoy is faked? what is the point of such albanian demagogy? no dears the Albanians and Kosovars,you are not victimious nation any more. criminals and war perpetrators belongs to you and lead you with the same ideology,which you are tending to spread here. If I were Albanian I will be shamed.
Didnt the serbs and Del Ponte try to blame albanians for this organ traficking already?
I am afraid that this will come back and hit the serbs again and Kosovo albanians will end up as winners just like it happened with the ICJ decision and the UN resolution in september.
I am afraid serbs will loose again this time with this.
"Thaci showed to be a gentleman in this interview by giving Marty all the time he needs to hide behind the immunity. "
(ben, 24 December 2010 13:56)
Gentleman? Ha, you gave me a good laugh! Thank you! For me his words and threads against Marty sound more like the ones coming from a m***a boss: "You know, we'll get you one fine day, whereever you are, you cannot hide forever. I can wait". Now I wonder where he learnt to behave like that. Probably not at university, studying international politics and history ;-)
"P.S. Bad move Dick, some people never forget."
(POL, 24 December 2010 14:06)
Where did I hear those words the last time? I don't remember. Could it be in an Al Capone movie? Some movie experts here who could provide us with the exact quote? ;-)
The blatherings of a guity snake. I hope tadic does meet with him and a picture of them shaking hands is published. That way, the Serbs can throw that american puppet out of office. I expect the highest Serb official mr. snake will meet is the minister for kosovo. Take a hint, boris, get eu candidate status before soiling your hand. I think you are stupid already; don't be a stupid negotiator.
If Marty is innocent then he should feel very comfortable to face the judges and expose Thaci to his wrong doings.
Why innocent men as Marty need the immunity from a process in court????
(ben, 24 December 2010 13:56)
I think this is a bit too much for you to understand, yes, just imagine in a civilized world we have a system that is mabe not compatible to your wishes.
Be patient, Mr Marty has nothing to hide (unlike some others...) and when the time will be right, meaning a full investigation will finally take place, he will certainly disclose some more irrefutable proofs that he can't for the time being for obvious reasons....
If you are too impatient and do not like the way it goes, write to the COE and complain....
Hash seems to be getting more and more unhinged in his responses. I agree with Top. If he's got nothing to hide, he'd be as cool as a cucumber instead of issuing bombastic statements daily that range from personal offence to calling everything a Russo-Serb conspiracy. Clearly the man has issues.
I also like the "pre-groomed" Thaci photo. He looks like a cheesy lounge singer before Albright took him clothes shopping :)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
(Je¿ osadzony, 24 December 2010 21:32)
Have you checked the jails lately? There is no more room for any one else, they are full with Serb heroes.
This political stunt is pathetic. It is Serbia's latest way of attacking Kosovo. It was a clever idea in all fairness but it will fail badly once the true colours are revealed.
(Ian, UK, 24 December 2010 14:33)
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Dick Marty is NOT Serbian. How is this Serbia attacking anyone?
Ian, spoken like a true Albanian.
I now you say you are British, but I'm sure you have Albanian blood running though you veins.
I am Australian but the blood running through my veins is Serbian.
Don't be ashamed of your heritage, well not just yet. Wait till this is all proven but don't blame the Serbs for your own people's sins.
Thaci isn't being a gentleman in 'giving' Marty time. Time is not Thaci's to give, he has no choice in this matter.
Secondly its quite natural that Thaci has nothing to lose from Marty's immunity, if he is guilty. Was Thaci really so stupid in only realising afterward that Marty had immunity, or was the suing idea a deliberate plan to make himself sound innocent? Yes, it seems to have impressed Kosovo Albanians, but no, looks like it was a trick...
Of course Thaci can wait! He will become Prime Minister again. It is Kosovo's Albanians who will suffer and the independence project that will suffer a setback.
That is even more true if the people of Kosovo are as servile and loving towards Thaci as you seem to be.
Between you and me, the best way to neutralise this one is to get rid of him.
"Was Thaci really so stupid in only realising afterward that Marty had immunity, or was the suing idea a deliberate plan to make himself sound innocent? Yes, it seems to have impressed Kosovo Albanians, but no, looks like it was a trick... "
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Probably only some psycho doc can explain this behaviour. For me, it shows panic, and shows that there is something to hide. A confident person who knows that he has clean hands would act different, in my opinion, like: Go and investigate, you won't find anything. The green light for investigations from Kosovo only came after pressure from the USA.
"Of course Thaci can wait! He will become Prime Minister again. It is Kosovo's Albanians who will suffer and the independence project that will suffer a setback."
(bganon, 24 December 2010 14:23)
If Thaci would care for for Kosovo as a state and not only for his own ego and pockets (and/or the ones of his buddies), he would stay away from politics and be quiet.
He is 40 years old and someone else is preparing material for his talks with Serbia.
Once a cheat always a cheat and a puppet..
But rest of us remember General Noriegas fall from grace and televised capture..
That`s what i see for this clown..and how smart is he not to know that blowing hot air about suing Dick Marty will get few laughs around political elites.
But then we have albanian trolls here to entertain us with same mantra also..
others no difference. But I don't think they will ever obtain enough evidence to indict (in any court other than Serbia) little on convict.
(pss, 24 December 2010 17:25)
But there is a big difference between a cucumber and the snake... if you type "cucumber" on google you will find one description,nothing serious, just a cucumber....now is you type, snake, kla, thaci, you will find a lof of news that are more or less always linking this angel to all sorts of criminal activities, so I disagree with Mike, he CAN'T be cool like a cucumber....
"dick marty is a clown he has zero evidence for his report.thaci schould ignore him.let serbian media make 100 reports a day about that who cares?"
(mijari, 24 December 2010 15:00)
Sorry, Dick Marty is a renowned and reputable person from Switzerland who alredy discovered things like illegal prison camps and transports by the USA to some eastern european countries. The first reactions have been the same: "That's not possible". In the end, the truth came out. And no, it's not only Serbian media who makes reports, there are newspaper articles around the world, in the UK, France... whereever.
But I agree, Thaci should ignore him if he's innocent, and simply wait for the investigations. But what he's doing is threatening him and trying to turn a criminal case into a conspiration against Kosovo. For me, there's only one possible explanation why he acts like that: Panic and fear of the truth. A confident person with clean hands would not act like this, I think.
Ben, allegations have been made against Thaci, not Marti. If the organ-harvesting crimes against Thaci and the KLA prove to be erroneous, then maybe Thaci has a claim? But I dought it, as political figures do have impunity. It would be like Serbia trying to bring Clinton and Blair for war crimes. It would be next to impossible.
So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade.
(Albi, 24 December 2010 18:59)
Are you by chance wearing pink glasses or maybe you smoked something unhealthy !
Are you by chance wearing pink glasses or maybe you smoked something unhealthy !
Egocentrism and wickedness on your statement are very oblivious . It does not take a rocket scientist to see your shameless statements. You feel like you are right all times and other people are wrong. Evidence is the one that wins on the end and belittlement is one of the characteristics of Serbian propaganda which even in this modest forum such B92 is plenty. Go team Serbia go because what are you doing just keeping the fire alive. As for you Swiss Serbian “brother” you are wearing those pink glasses for long time and you do not even know it. You are right about one thing though, I do wear glasses made by Ralph Lauren with transition lessees.
To mister Serbian Swiss these are the figures not the demagogy that you are full of. Here from Marty’s report: # 16
Of more than 6,000 disappearances on which the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has opened files, approximately 1,400 individuals have been found alive and 2,500 corpses have been found and identified. For the most part, these were Albanian Kosovar victims found in mass graves in regions under Serbian control and in Kosovo. To the almost 1,900 persons who went missing during the conflict and whose fate has still not been established (approximately two-thirds of whom are Albanian Kosovars) must be added almost 500 persons who disappeared after the arrival of KFOR troops on 12 June 1999, about 100 of whom were Albanian Kosovars and close to 400 non-Albanians, most of them Serbians.
My math
6000 -1400 alive = 4600 – 2500 corpses= 2100 ( FOR THE MOST PART THESE WERE ALBANIANS- it means that plus minus 90 %)
1900 were missing during the conflict two thirds Albanian (can you see the theme not Serbian mentioned until now just Albanians)
500 after the conflict 100 of them Albanians and close 400 non Albanians most of them Serbs
So how many Serbs are missing he is not saying
This is very ridiculous Albanians killed in total are 13000 Serbs not even around 500.
Marty should look in Serbian for war crimes not in Kosovo
Now mister Swiss who is wearing pink glasses and smoking a joint?
Thaci is 40? I always assumed he was in his mid 50's. Guilt, shame and stress are powerful agents of premature aging. No rest for the wicked afterall. Not only does he look like his usual obtuse and goonish self but hopefully justice is served before he leaves this world. Is this the best that the Albanians have to govern them? A thuggish figure with no significant skills or accomplishments?
Is this the best that the Albanians have to govern them? A thuggish figure with no significant skills or accomplishments?
(nick, 25 December 2010 07:56)
Actually we do have a lot, but this is the best when dealing with Serbs. He is only 40 and won couple of battles such as Rambouillet pushing NATO and the world against Serbia, remaining in good collaboration with western countries and gaining the support for the independence of Kosova. Something similar happened with ICJ, and I believe Dick Mary – the last hope of Jeremic to win the diplomatic battle for Kosovo, is going to be a piece of cake for him.
In addition, Kosovo Serbs, except those in north Mitrovica, like him. They trust him because looks like he is a trustful guy. Probably they share the same impression with Clinton, Bush, Blair etc. Do not be surprised if during his next 4 years mandate he is going to be liked by Serbs in North Mitrovica. Looks like he is a good guy who keeps the promis.
Ian, are you originaly from Beverley in Yorhshire? Just curious.
Regarding your comments, even you are not Albanian you must have some connection with Albanians.
I just dont want to comment on your writings here as you are the biggest hypocrite. Maybe next time you should coment on some Albanian websites where your comments will be more apriciated.
(Tomashenko, 25 December 2010 14:54)
I'm from near Bradford in West Yorkshire. I have pretty much no contact with any Albanians, I know a few Serbs though, they're good people.
"why the Albanians have been trying to prove that report of CoE envoy is faked? what is the point of such albanian demagogy? no dears the Albanians and Kosovars,you are not victimious nation any more. criminals and war perpetrators belongs to you and lead you with the same ideology,which you are tending to spread here. If I were Albanian I will be shamed.
Realist"
- Realist, do you know the meaning of the word 'realism'?
Apparently not!
It's the Serb government which aids and abeds war criminals. And, they are the ones leading your country.
Perhaps, it is you who should be ashamed to be Serbian!
If Thaci would care for for Kosovo as a state and not only for his own ego and pockets (and/or the ones of his buddies), he would stay away from politics and be quiet.
(Top, 24 December 2010 15:26)
Considering the hysterial panic in which he ended up, it looks that there is much more in the game than simply staying away from politics and enriching himself....
"So my friends this is another proof that it is prepared by someone else. This is the way that many teachers find out if their students are Plagiarizing In my test he is definitely plagiarizing and I think the original format is in Belgrade. "
(Albi, 24 December 2010 18:59)
First people accuse Marty of spinning tales and inventing stories, now that he was quoting or copying text excerpts from other documents, it's suddenly 'plagiarizing'. Btw, I heard for both, the punishment is death penalty in the democratic and multietnic dream state of Kosovo. Always remember the gentlemen's words: "I can wait, I'm only 40, I will get you, wherever you are" ;-) Merry X-mas!
The kosovan experiment is over. We all know it deep down. It has been a criminal enterprise from the start. Let's move on, split kosovo, and get away from them. And make the border watertight, the Kalbs are desperate to get out of their self made hell hole.
The blatherings of a guity snake. I hope tadic does meet with him and a picture of them shaking hands is published. That way, the Serbs can throw that american puppet out of office. I expect the highest Serb official mr. snake will meet is the minister for kosovo. Take a hint, boris, get eu candidate status before soiling your hand. I think you are stupid already; don't be a stupid negotiator.
(JohnBoy, 24 December 2010 19:13)
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I agree. I cannot believe that any Serb would want to shake the hand that butchered his brothers and sisters.
This is the utmost betrayal of your people Mr Tadic.
At least wait until the investigation takes place and take it from there.
What is Tadic going to say when the snake is found guilty? No amount of disinfectant will ever remove the stain and stench of that hand he shook.
Ian, are you originaly from Beverley in Yorhshire? Just curious.
Regarding your comments, even you are not Albanian you must have some connection with Albanians.
I just dont want to comment on your writings here as you are the biggest hypocrite. Maybe next time you should coment on some Albanian websites where your comments will be more apriciated.
I agree with JohnBoy. I actually like Tadic from an international perspective, but I think it would be a BIG mistake to shake hands with Thaci. And I for one would be really disgusted and it would confirm the doubts that have been creeping in recently.
Daredevil - very happy to hear you say nice things about the British. Thank you and glad to know that we're not completely associated with that evangelistic low life Blair et pals.
“I’m a 40-year-old. I will wait until he loses his immunity and he will face justice. Just like I had patience to put up with all the curses for the past 15 years, I will have patience and I will wait for Mr. Marty to lose his immunity,” he added.
There are good chances you won't be 45 year old, Mr. Snake. You know to much and some of your masters don't like people who know to much.
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
Yes, long they shall live - in the jail, bring fed not-so-fresh bread and drinking not-so-fresh water. The longer, the better. 1 hour exercise + 30 minutes sunlight daily is enough.
(Je¿ osadzony)
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Yes, only the best treatment for these individuals. So heroic and brave; I mean they have mastered the term "a*# kisser", only true brave people can be so honour-less. :)
so I disagree with Mike, he CAN'T be cool like a cucumber....
(The Swiss, 24 December 2010 20:58)
Anytime he could end up like a cucumber: sliced into pieces by his former masters. Having such "relatives" like the godfathers of certain three-letter companies (BND, CIA, KGB) means you can't be secure, in particular if you know more, than what they want you to know.
Regardless who you are - God bless and stay as far away from all these as you can, makes better sleeps at night.
When Jean Piaget (Swiss by the way) explained the development of intelligence, he used a matrix that placed autistic thought at the bottom because it's neither communicable nor directed toward understanding phenomena. At the top he placed communicable thought because it seeks evidence to verify beliefs and it is indeed communicable. The second lowest form of intelligence he defined as magical thinking for although it is communicable it is not directed at discovering the truth. From what I see, most Albanians defending Thaci are stuck in this magical mode of thinking as they eschew evidence as being counterproductive. While there are certainly some Serbs on this site who get too excited about any piece of evidence, for the most part they have uttered similar sentiments, such as "all we want is a thorough investigation." Thus, their reasoning is clearly higher than magical thinking. Now, enter Dick Marty, a non-Serb from one of the Western countries revered by Kalbs, Switzerland, for it is the land of money. After a meticulous two year investigation, he published his report. If anyone knows the Swiss, they are not ones to jump to conclusions without gathering ample facts. Mr. Marty presented his report and requested a thorough investigation. All of the sudden, however, to Albanians he became something totally different, some kind of fiend who is protecting Serbs and is only interested in damning Albanians. Such is the power of assimilation. When people refuse to change their world views, they seek to assimilate every bit of information into their present world views. Smart people change their world views to accommodate new information. The question is, are you Albanians smart or not? If you are smart, you will wait for all the evidence to make itself known and change your worldviews to accommodate this information. If you are not smart, you will force every new bit of information to fit into your present worldview. For my part, I'll sit back and wait to see the evidence before deciding guilt. Then again, I'm not an Albanian.
and you do not even know it. You are right about one thing though, I do wear glasses made by Ralph Lauren with transition lessees.
(Albi, 25 December 2010 00:22)
waooo, great, you are privilegded... and at least I managed to tackle something behind the glasses.... Now if you do not like my comments, don't read them, as simple as that. And yes, am happy to have Serbian friends, like I do have Albanian friends, with a little difference, they don't wear pink ralph lauren glasses and do not keep the head in the sand.
Cheers and good luck
Is it me or does a video of the Drenica KLA camp with these kidnapped Serbs not hint that he is already guilty of ATLEAST the kidnapping allegations? And howcome none of you terrorist supporting K-Albs have anything to say about the video? Does denial have it's limits?
The picture at the top is such a cool one ;) Long live UCK
(iliri, 24 December 2010 17:44)
You know nothing about weapons and how you should hold any.. That photo is a military/combat fiasco promotion and can cause laughing and nothing else. I saw the whole set of those and there's not a single one convincing., by mistake- at least. Those things make me jump during the night and bite my pillow., how's that possible actually?! How's possible that such a shepherd morons receive all that help of the US/NATO and become any kind of "heroes"..
I have no doubt that all five of those have individually killed innocent people but that's other story..
Your mind should be blown away once you can see anything cool there.
What's cool there?
Of course, you're proud that they hold some weapons- at least while not "bringing the water" for US/NATO troops only. That big heroes you have. Show this picture to any trained soldiers and you'll see showing with a finger and laughing after few seconds. Try!
You sir will look a fool when Marty is unable to prove that Thaci was connected to the Organ trade. The only evidence apart from this video which proves nothing, which Marty will be able to produce is some witnesses which Serbia has bribed. This will be an epic fail on Marty's behalf.
(Ian, UK, 25 December 2010 02:29
There is absoltely nothing in the depth of my mind right now that I can pull out
to respond to your imagination other than the following: Almost all of the key evidence was deliberately destroyed with the intent to hide the truth and protect all of the criminals involved directly and by association, which sadly also include your icon--Tony Blair.There were also witnesses to organ harvesting that have mysteriously disappeared. But you already know that better than I do,Ian.
So Ian, tell us all, are these the facts that are the core of your defense to your ego and the Albanian cause? If not, what are they?
Did you ever have a conversation with someone that you were actually deeply involved in emotionally, psychologically, intellectually, and all of your efforts directed at satisfying your need to prove yourself right? And at some point, a little light goes off in your brain and you see the futility and hopelessness of the ego's charades, and rise above the situation, and say--who cares? I have on many occasions. But every now and then when I moisten my soul,in my mind, I hear the song: The Lion This Time, by Van Morrison, and it wakes up in me the memory and the habit of thinking that my purpose is to carry a torch for some cause of righteousness.
That requires judgment on my part, which weighs heavily on my soul, and it's in those times that I need to be reminded that I am no "Archangel Michael".
Peggy-for once you must AGREE with me YES. Amer,Ian UK ,Johny and many more are GENIUS human , who make me proud to be Kosovar
(L-pz, 25 December 2010 14:46)
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Actually you are deluded. There is no such race as a kosovar race. People living in Kosovo are Serbs, Albanians, Roma or any other minority but none of them are Kosovars.
All those men you mentioned are patriotic Albanians and I agree, they would make anyone look good.
I'm from near Bradford in West Yorkshire. I have pretty much no contact with any Albanians, I know a few Serbs though, they're good people.
(Ian, UK, 25 December 2010 18:42)
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What about that Albanian family from Kosovo you said lived with you for a while when they came to England as refugees?
You know the ones who could not speak English and yet you somehow understood just how evil Serbs were and took everything they told you as gospel.
Don't you keep in touch with them any more?
BTW, if you had any Serb friends you would not be on every site writing bad things about Serbs. Somehow I don't think your Serb friends would appreciate it. Do they know what you say about Serbs behind their back?
in yugo era plenty ppl felt yugoslav why not now I can't feel kosovar.You need to refresh your mind of Milosevic era because is dead and buried.And you are desperate to stop IanUK what is telling the trueth
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