"Serious accusations, sensationalism"

"He went on to say that the Swiss senator, who brought to light illegal CIA prisons in one of his previous investigations, was "prone to sensationalism", but that Marty's report nevertheless contained "serious accusations that must be investigated"."

The wheel of a locomotive of LIES and just about to stop, even by those (like Gelbart) who once called KLA a terrorist organisation. He identifies Marty as "prone to sensationalism", so NOTHING more nothing less.

What is NOVELTY and interesting is that Gelbart admits Kosovo independence was through a legal process and that
"there are practical issues between two neighboring countries that need to be solved, and which are related to electric energy, telecommunication, traffic, water supply," said he.

Reformed guy, good comment (well done).

"He went on to say that the Swiss senator, who brought to light illegal CIA prisons in one of his previous investigations, was "prone to sensationalism", but that Marty's report nevertheless contained "serious accusations that must be investigated"."

The wheel of a locomotive of LIES and just about to stop, even by those (like Gelbart) who once called KLA a terrorist organisation. He identifies Marty as "prone to sensationalism", so NOTHING more nothing less. "
(PRN, 23 December 2010 11:30)

Some people seem to not even read what they quoted themselves in the sentence before: The wording is: "prone to sensationalism" but then it's not
"Nothing more nothign less" but followed by "contained serious accusations that must be investigated". A simple sentence, is it so hard to read?

But good that you reminded us all that even officials from US of A called the KLA a terrorist organization (with Thaci as their head, then) - some people seem to have forgotten that fact.

So, PRN, you read the whole report and pull out only the part that you like and that all of the sudden means that the wheels are about to stop turning. Many you are not making your people look that good. What about the rest of the report where he said the accusations are serious? What about where it appears that the US is starting to distance itself from Thaci?

"Someone MUST be held responsible.
(PRN, 23 December 2010 14:44)

Exactly! We agree! And the name of this person starts with a T and ends with an i !

... accusations naming ex-KLA and current Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci as the leader of the group which traded in human organs were "not related to the issue of the Kosovo independence"

LOL! someone tell this to the albanians who keep bring up milosevic...

Dear Daniel,

I agree with you when you say "accusations are serious".
No one dare deny that such accusations are not serious.

What make TOTALLY insignificant this Marty report is the content of it, NOT the accusations. His report is a collection of FBI reports, newspaper articles, and GOSSIPS.

HOWEVER, the accusations are so serious and that beyond imagination. If one stops and does brainstorming on what can one accuse anther the list would be long, horrible and serious.

For instance I could accuse Tadic that during the Bosnian war he was nr.1 killer and rapist, and claim that women are too afraid to appear. Internationals would come and claim that such accusations are serious and investigation must be done. PERIOD.

After all these fairy-tales are gradually coming to an end, and PANIC is being sensed by Marty and Belgrade. Someone MUST be held responsible. I would also agree that if Thaci is even 00.1% guilty of these accusations he must face prison. BUT let me tell you that not even MARTY is not guilty, he is just Belgrade PROXY.

Professional Right-wing Nutjob,

Were you kicked out of Albanian sites because of your hysterical style? Kosovo USA is a liberal compared to you. Maybe if you would start trying to comment on less article the "quality" of your postings might actually improve. Now they are rated as "complete junk".

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!

Again,

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!

Someone MUST be held responsible. I would also agree that if Thaci is even 00.1% guilty of these accusations he must face prison. BUT let me tell you that not even MARTY is not guilty, he is just Belgrade PROXY.
(PRN, 23 December 2010 14:44)

from 00.1% (?) to 100% just need to turn the wheel... by the way,are you at least once reading what kind of nonsense you are writing.... I new your hatry for the entire serbian population, but now you are insulting day after day a person, one of my commpatriote., who did the job he was mandated to. I like to remind you, if you have still not understood (doubfully), that Mr Marty is working for the COE, was mandated by the COE, meaning the 27 europeans countries, does this ring a bell somewhere in your brain, even a small remoted one....
I suggest you to refrain from ternishing further the kosovo image, it is already bleak enough, and don't forget that this site is read by a lot of foreigners like me and people like you and other alike trolls do give us a not very pleasant feeling.... Behave if you want to be respected !!

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!

Again,

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!
(KOSO, 23 December 2010 16:43)

--Agree. No talks until Belgrade begs the UNSC for an investigation. Only that action and the end of the investigation will remove the poisonous atmosphere.

Top, let me know when Serbia actually gets around to shake her apathy and stop sitting on her a$$ but rather take concrete actions and demand in international bodies an urgent investigation. Until then you can take comfort on your triumphalism and pleasure of reading news titles here on B92.

P.S-- Still waiting for Marty's evidence. He says he has it but he is withholding it. Why withhold it and obstruct justice? Why?

Here is an interesting blog that pretty much says what too many believe to be true.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/12/23/the-human-organs-of-the-council-of-europe-evidence-please/


"Discrediting the different Kosovan leaders, nearly all whom took part in one way or another in the resistance struggle against Milosevic which ended with the Blair-Clinton Nato intervention in the summer of 1999, has been a top political priority for Serbs and Russians. Mr Marty together with others hostile to the United States on the Council of Europe has never made any secret of his oppositions to Kosovan independence. He has opposed calls for Kosovo to be given member or even observer status at the Council of Europe."

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!
(KOSO, 23 December 2010 16:43)

Talks?

I think we should just rise our nation to complete mobilization and just walk in to Kosovo., in a day.

No talks.

If the US was smart on this issue, they'd give the Green light for Serbia to either wack out Thaci or send in forces for his capture and trial in Belgrade. Wipe their hands clean of this wack job leader who is obviously a Noriega/Himmler hybrid.

i think it was that scumbag joseph lieberman that said america and the kla stand for the same things.I couldnt have said it better my self.God bless Kosmet

Don't you remember last time? NATO was playing games in Belgrade. I'm sure all the fighter pilot really appreciated your hand drawn bulls-eyes on the bridges.
(KOSO, 24 December 2010 00:45)
============================

Last time the world was ignorant about Albanians and bought all that victim rubbish.
Now they know better and I can almost guarantee that NATO would not dare try the same again.
The world sees what Albanians are capable of and for sure would not stand for Serbia being bombed again. For whom? For what?

"Mr Marty together with others hostile to the United States on the Council of Europe has never made any secret of his oppositions to Kosovan independence. He has opposed calls for Kosovo to be given member or even observer status at the Council of Europe."
(miri, 23 December 2010 20:03)

It's not hostile, just realistic. Why should a mafia-like state lead by members of an (ex-)terrorist organization, with election fraud, crime and corruption in the highest positions be allowed to be a member? This would damage the reputation of European institutions, who share a minimum of common values. Maybe Kosovo should apply for a membership in the African union? Sudan, Swaziland and other nice countries would be the perfect neighborhood, and Kosovo could be a lighthouse of freedom there!

"Organs trafficking in Kosovo"Since that happen during the NATO and UNMIK tenure only UNSC should have mandate and full authority to investigate that gruesome crime.It would be travesty of justice to let EU and NATO determine outcome of that investigation.Some EU and NATO officials already admits that some revenge by KLA against Serbs took place in early days of NATO presence."In the interest of stability NATO turned blind eye to some killing of the Serbs by KLA"
In view of all of this Serbia should consult with Russia and China as permanent UNSC members to form investigating commission to find out:
THE TRUTH

"Why should a mafia-like state lead by members of an (ex-)terrorist organization, with election fraud, crime and corruption in the highest positions be allowed to be a member? This would damage the reputation of European institutions, who share a minimum of common values.

(Top, 24 December 2010 14:49) "

Well, they let Russia in, so the standards can't be all that high.

I think we should just rise our nation to complete mobilization and just walk in to Kosovo., in a day.

No talks.
(ZMAJ, 23 December 2010 22:12)


WILL ALL THE INTERNET GANGSTERS PLEASE STAND UP, PLEASE STAND UP.

Don't you remember last time? NATO was playing games in Belgrade. I'm sure all the fighter pilot really appreciated your hand drawn bulls-eyes on the bridges.

"He went on to say that the Swiss senator, who brought to light illegal CIA prisons in one of his previous investigations, was "prone to sensationalism", but that Marty's report nevertheless contained "serious accusations that must be investigated"."

The wheel of a locomotive of LIES and just about to stop, even by those (like Gelbart) who once called KLA a terrorist organisation. He identifies Marty as "prone to sensationalism", so NOTHING more nothing less.

What is NOVELTY and interesting is that Gelbart admits Kosovo independence was through a legal process and that
"there are practical issues between two neighboring countries that need to be solved, and which are related to electric energy, telecommunication, traffic, water supply," said he.

Reformed guy, good comment (well done).

Dear Daniel,

I agree with you when you say "accusations are serious".
No one dare deny that such accusations are not serious.

What make TOTALLY insignificant this Marty report is the content of it, NOT the accusations. His report is a collection of FBI reports, newspaper articles, and GOSSIPS.

HOWEVER, the accusations are so serious and that beyond imagination. If one stops and does brainstorming on what can one accuse anther the list would be long, horrible and serious.

For instance I could accuse Tadic that during the Bosnian war he was nr.1 killer and rapist, and claim that women are too afraid to appear. Internationals would come and claim that such accusations are serious and investigation must be done. PERIOD.

After all these fairy-tales are gradually coming to an end, and PANIC is being sensed by Marty and Belgrade. Someone MUST be held responsible. I would also agree that if Thaci is even 00.1% guilty of these accusations he must face prison. BUT let me tell you that not even MARTY is not guilty, he is just Belgrade PROXY.

Here is an interesting blog that pretty much says what too many believe to be true.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/12/23/the-human-organs-of-the-council-of-europe-evidence-please/


"Discrediting the different Kosovan leaders, nearly all whom took part in one way or another in the resistance struggle against Milosevic which ended with the Blair-Clinton Nato intervention in the summer of 1999, has been a top political priority for Serbs and Russians. Mr Marty together with others hostile to the United States on the Council of Europe has never made any secret of his oppositions to Kosovan independence. He has opposed calls for Kosovo to be given member or even observer status at the Council of Europe."

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!

Again,

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!
(KOSO, 23 December 2010 16:43)

--Agree. No talks until Belgrade begs the UNSC for an investigation. Only that action and the end of the investigation will remove the poisonous atmosphere.

Top, let me know when Serbia actually gets around to shake her apathy and stop sitting on her a$$ but rather take concrete actions and demand in international bodies an urgent investigation. Until then you can take comfort on your triumphalism and pleasure of reading news titles here on B92.

P.S-- Still waiting for Marty's evidence. He says he has it but he is withholding it. Why withhold it and obstruct justice? Why?

So, PRN, you read the whole report and pull out only the part that you like and that all of the sudden means that the wheels are about to stop turning. Many you are not making your people look that good. What about the rest of the report where he said the accusations are serious? What about where it appears that the US is starting to distance itself from Thaci?

"He went on to say that the Swiss senator, who brought to light illegal CIA prisons in one of his previous investigations, was "prone to sensationalism", but that Marty's report nevertheless contained "serious accusations that must be investigated"."

The wheel of a locomotive of LIES and just about to stop, even by those (like Gelbart) who once called KLA a terrorist organisation. He identifies Marty as "prone to sensationalism", so NOTHING more nothing less. "
(PRN, 23 December 2010 11:30)

Some people seem to not even read what they quoted themselves in the sentence before: The wording is: "prone to sensationalism" but then it's not
"Nothing more nothign less" but followed by "contained serious accusations that must be investigated". A simple sentence, is it so hard to read?

But good that you reminded us all that even officials from US of A called the KLA a terrorist organization (with Thaci as their head, then) - some people seem to have forgotten that fact.

"Someone MUST be held responsible.
(PRN, 23 December 2010 14:44)

Exactly! We agree! And the name of this person starts with a T and ends with an i !

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!
(KOSO, 23 December 2010 16:43)

Talks?

I think we should just rise our nation to complete mobilization and just walk in to Kosovo., in a day.

No talks.

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!

Again,

Talks with the Serbs should begin AFTER the investigation !!

... accusations naming ex-KLA and current Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci as the leader of the group which traded in human organs were "not related to the issue of the Kosovo independence"

LOL! someone tell this to the albanians who keep bring up milosevic...

i think it was that scumbag joseph lieberman that said america and the kla stand for the same things.I couldnt have said it better my self.God bless Kosmet

Professional Right-wing Nutjob,

Were you kicked out of Albanian sites because of your hysterical style? Kosovo USA is a liberal compared to you. Maybe if you would start trying to comment on less article the "quality" of your postings might actually improve. Now they are rated as "complete junk".

If the US was smart on this issue, they'd give the Green light for Serbia to either wack out Thaci or send in forces for his capture and trial in Belgrade. Wipe their hands clean of this wack job leader who is obviously a Noriega/Himmler hybrid.

I think we should just rise our nation to complete mobilization and just walk in to Kosovo., in a day.

No talks.
(ZMAJ, 23 December 2010 22:12)


WILL ALL THE INTERNET GANGSTERS PLEASE STAND UP, PLEASE STAND UP.

Don't you remember last time? NATO was playing games in Belgrade. I'm sure all the fighter pilot really appreciated your hand drawn bulls-eyes on the bridges.

"Mr Marty together with others hostile to the United States on the Council of Europe has never made any secret of his oppositions to Kosovan independence. He has opposed calls for Kosovo to be given member or even observer status at the Council of Europe."
(miri, 23 December 2010 20:03)

It's not hostile, just realistic. Why should a mafia-like state lead by members of an (ex-)terrorist organization, with election fraud, crime and corruption in the highest positions be allowed to be a member? This would damage the reputation of European institutions, who share a minimum of common values. Maybe Kosovo should apply for a membership in the African union? Sudan, Swaziland and other nice countries would be the perfect neighborhood, and Kosovo could be a lighthouse of freedom there!

"Organs trafficking in Kosovo"Since that happen during the NATO and UNMIK tenure only UNSC should have mandate and full authority to investigate that gruesome crime.It would be travesty of justice to let EU and NATO determine outcome of that investigation.Some EU and NATO officials already admits that some revenge by KLA against Serbs took place in early days of NATO presence."In the interest of stability NATO turned blind eye to some killing of the Serbs by KLA"
In view of all of this Serbia should consult with Russia and China as permanent UNSC members to form investigating commission to find out:
THE TRUTH

Don't you remember last time? NATO was playing games in Belgrade. I'm sure all the fighter pilot really appreciated your hand drawn bulls-eyes on the bridges.
(KOSO, 24 December 2010 00:45)
============================

Last time the world was ignorant about Albanians and bought all that victim rubbish.
Now they know better and I can almost guarantee that NATO would not dare try the same again.
The world sees what Albanians are capable of and for sure would not stand for Serbia being bombed again. For whom? For what?

Someone MUST be held responsible. I would also agree that if Thaci is even 00.1% guilty of these accusations he must face prison. BUT let me tell you that not even MARTY is not guilty, he is just Belgrade PROXY.
(PRN, 23 December 2010 14:44)

from 00.1% (?) to 100% just need to turn the wheel... by the way,are you at least once reading what kind of nonsense you are writing.... I new your hatry for the entire serbian population, but now you are insulting day after day a person, one of my commpatriote., who did the job he was mandated to. I like to remind you, if you have still not understood (doubfully), that Mr Marty is working for the COE, was mandated by the COE, meaning the 27 europeans countries, does this ring a bell somewhere in your brain, even a small remoted one....
I suggest you to refrain from ternishing further the kosovo image, it is already bleak enough, and don't forget that this site is read by a lot of foreigners like me and people like you and other alike trolls do give us a not very pleasant feeling.... Behave if you want to be respected !!

"Why should a mafia-like state lead by members of an (ex-)terrorist organization, with election fraud, crime and corruption in the highest positions be allowed to be a member? This would damage the reputation of European institutions, who share a minimum of common values.

(Top, 24 December 2010 14:49) "

Well, they let Russia in, so the standards can't be all that high.