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Monday, 20.12.2010.

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Thaci says "anti-independence network" out to get him

Hashim Thaci said he would form a new government in Kosovo by the end of January, and addressed grave accusations against him.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Milos

pre 13 godina

Johny,

Same as they sued Carla Del Ponte 2 years ago?

03 June 2008 Pristina _ Kosovo’s Parliament has dropped a move to sue the former chief UN war crimes prosecutor over allegations that Kosovo Serbs were killed for their organs.

“We could not proceed with such a step today due to pressure from outside,” said Berat Luzha, a deputy from the Democratic Party of Kosovo, PDK, and the politician who launched the initiative.

Lutfi Haziri, a former Deputy Prime Minister from the Democratic League of Kosovo, LDK, insisted that there was no pressure but rather dropped the idea after “consultations with the international community.”

johny

pre 13 godina

"No, it's exactly the same: Many Serbs think the "evil west" is against them, not seeing that their (former) leaders committed horrible crimes in the name of "Serbdom". Now Thaci thinks similar. "

-- Its not the same. Here you have two countries. Russia and Serbia. This really is not the first time these two countries have attempted the total liquidation of the Albanian nation. Just like the present where Kosova is claimed as Serbia's heart; 70 years ago it was Albania that was claimed as Old Serbia. Not only that but the Ruskies pushed so hard for this; it took and American president to stop them.

Now on the other side among those who bombed and facilitated the bombing of Serbia in 1999 there are same of the staunchest Serb allies. Such as Greece. Not to mention the the vast amount of countries taking part in such action nullifies any conspiracy theory. 2 countries can indeed conspire against another nation. More than 20 among whom are some of Serbia's staunchest allies can't.

"But the fact is: There are simply some people want to know the truth and get perpetrators of crimes where they belong: To prison (and not on a president's chair)"

-- Sadly neither Tadic, nor Jeremic, nor you for that matter seem to be among those people. To you this is all about the media game. If that wasn't the case, instead of your gleeful joy from news titles you should be furious why Belgrade hasn't taped a resource as powerful as the UNSC; instead of smiling and complaining to journalists? Why it has been withholding evidence from EULEX for at least two years now; when they posture to the media about their solid strong evidence? Why the total apathy over something as serious as this but plenty of activity over a phone line? Instead of urging concrete actions from Belgrade you are to preoccupied with the posters here.
I have yet to see one single Serb joining me in requesting the Serb government take this urgently to the highest international body out there; the UNSC, and ask for an urgent mandate over a thorough investigation. Why a total lack of even caring to have the support of the strongest international organization. Something ain't right in the attitude of Belgrade because they supposedly seek a fast investigation yet they are doing nothing and taking no concrete actions to make it happen. This is the same attitude of the Serb people.


P.S Biljana there's two possibilities.

1. Thaci maybe hired a few lawyers and they are preparing to sue.

2. Thaci may sue only for the organ accusation; but he may have profited from some auctions over highways for example and that would end his career too.

For you info, he has called for an international investigation over such allegations. Today was the latest time he did that.

Let me know when Serbia request an international investigation in order to find who's hiding war criminals in Serbia or even who actually order Djindjic's murder.

lili

pre 13 godina

chut!!!!
Don't tell it to Dick Marty or his serbian fellow:his report,far from diminushing the support of the albanian population to Thaci and UCK,has only strengthen them.All kosova and all albanian population is now united as never against these shameful,disgusting accusation. And the more you insist the more we will stand united because we DO know how this war was,and what happened,and we do know who were the criminals and who protected us and whom we have to thank for our liberation!
10 years after,we were just beginning to forget these bad times.thanks to dick marty and thanks to serbian propaganda,we are now as we were just after the war!A freat succes indeed for those who pretend to promote peace...But a big help for nationalist mvts!

Boki

pre 13 godina

Radio Television of Kosovo brings exclusive story of the witness who had been offered large sums of money in exchange for the declaration of the so-called "Yellow House. " The listen only to the prosecution, his testimony provides details of meetings with Igor Jucinacin, suspected and arrested in June 2009-tion of, and released in February this year by an international judge

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

[link]
(Je¿ serbski i nietrzeŸwy, 20 December 2010 15:44)

ZMAJ SeaShepherdowy Donatorowy 8yr.
http://www.seashepherd.org/sharks/

Biljana Milo-Ri

pre 13 godina

“Thaci says Marty's charges against him "will not hold him back", and that the accusations had been launched by a "network which opposes Kosovo's independence".

-Hey, Snake if you are innocent as you claim to be, why don’t you then press charges against Mr. Marty for slander! Honest people are not afraid of court.
I mean, if I were really innocent I would have already pressed the charges before International Court. I wouldn’t’ wait a second.

But you are afraid because everything said in the report is truth and nothing but the truth.
That’s why you make such ridiculous and desperate statement.
But desparate man makes desparate statemens. You will soon need diapers :)!!!!

Zoran

pre 13 godina

What about Seselj?
(ZMAJ, 20 December 2010 19:58)
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Nah, Seselj is busy bringing down the NATO court in the Hague and exposing the joint criminal enterprise within it. Well done to him. Check -> http://jurist.org/paperchase/2010/08/icty-orders-independent-investigation-of-witness-intimidation-at-seselj-trial.php

Je¿ szarplaninski

pre 13 godina

Drunk Serb Football Hooligans-Mossad Sharks 1-0
(rekin basenowy, 20 December 2010 20:04)

Given it's bad luck and dumb way dealing with Serbs - me thinks, it was a different shark, straight from Shark Planina.

Top

pre 13 godina

"You're trying to hard to remove that title from Serbia. In this case the conspiration is from Serbia and Russia."
(johny, 20 December 2010 19:47)
No, it's exactly the same: Many Serbs think the "evil west" is against them, not seeing that their (former) leaders committed horrible crimes in the name of "Serbdom". Now Thaci thinks similar.

But the fact is: There are simply some people want to know the truth and get perpetrators of crimes where they belong: To prison (and not on a president's chair)

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

At least Thaci and other K-Alb for that matter accused of war crimes, are no cowards. He is not hiding or running. He is there and will fly himself to the Hague if they call for him.
(Denis, 20 December 2010 17:42)

A "hero" does not run to Albania to fight a war when the NATO bombs started dropping in Kosovo. He is nothing more than a coward, thug and criminal; many Albanians were coerced and threatened by his various criminal ties.

Yes, Rugova was a pacifict and if it wasn't for Milosevic, his entire family would have been wiped out by the KLA.

Roger7

pre 13 godina

PRN-did you really write" Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. .?"

I think PRN, you should then be 'The Snake's' campaign manager.

Here is Snake's bio information from a Croatia site for you to use.
http://dalje.com/en-world/who-is-hashim-snake-thaci/125467

johny

pre 13 godina

"Yes, the great world conspiration against the independent dream state of Kosovo."

-- You're trying to hard to remove that title from Serbia. In this case the conspiration is from Serbia and Russia. This is not that hard to imagine. Its not the first time. This time its a little smarter. They seem no to seek the removal of Thaci but his re-election as a leader that's easy to blackmail. We'll see how its doing to work out.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

How about Cedomir Jovanovic? KiM Albanians love him.
(Zoran, 20 December 2010 18:05)

What about Seselj? On is going down another is jumping out (soon), ready to work.

kiko

pre 13 godina

To: All

First off, if there were crimes and credible evidence then anyone involved should be legally brought to justice and face any punishment deemed appropriate under the law! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

"Del Ponte explained in the interview that The Hague-based UN war crimes court investigated disappearances of 400 persons and that there were indications that a group of about ten might have been the victim of organ trafficking. " (B92)

Now this is from another article here on B92.

If only 10 out of 400 were possibly victims of organ trafficking then that is 2.5% and if you take how many were Serbs, Albanian, or none Albanian or Serbs, then that percentage diminishes to a far less number.

The reason I point this out is that based on Del Ponte's statement not all the missing were victims of organ trafficking. There is supposedly enough evidence to prove that 10 ppl, which we don't know their ethnic origin, to be actual victims of such a crime.

Let me note that any victim of any national ethnicity is a tragedy! If there is any evidence or knowledge no matter on what side of the border, then that should come to light so the families can know where their loved ones are at so they can make peace with them.

Everyone here has their own opinions and each side’s opinions should be respected. You guys fights by trying to get one up on the other but reality is your fooling yourselves. The Balkans has always been “a powder keg” with no winners!

The LAW should be enforced and there is not much difference in Serbia, Kosovo/a, Albania, or any other Balkan State! All are corrupt! Each politicians tries to create a media frenzy with some kind of accusation without proof so they can trick the ppl from the real everyday problems that each state has!

Grow up and work to make each citizens life better! You weren’t elected to make yourself rich, famous, etc, but to serve the ppl that elected you. Do your jobs! And stop playing with ppl’s lives for your own gain. That goes out to all the political leaders there. None have the backbone to do what’s right! (Side tracked!)

If you celebrate Christmas, may you and your families have a wonderful one and a Happy New Year! And may any victim of any nationality find peace in having the individuals that committed a crime be brought to justice! Peace on to the victims!

kiko

pre 13 godina

To: All

First off, if there were crimes and credible evidence then anyone involved should be legally brought to justice and face any punishment deemed appropriate under the law! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

"Del Ponte explained in the interview that The Hague-based UN war crimes court investigated disappearances of 400 persons and that there were indications that a group of about ten might have been the victim of organ trafficking. " (B92)

Now this is from another article here on B92.

If only 10 out of 400 were possibly victims of organ trafficking then that is 2.5% and if you take how many were Serbs, Albanian, or none Albanian or Serbs, then that percentage diminishes to a far less number.

The reason I point this out is that based on Del Ponte's statement not all the missing were victims of organ trafficking. There is supposedly enough evidence to prove that 10 ppl, which we don't know their ethnic origin, to be actual victims of such a crime.

Let me note that any victim of any national ethnicity is a tragedy! If there is any evidence or knowledge no matter on what side of the border, then that should come to light so the families can know where their loved ones are at so they can make peace with them.

Everyone here has their own opinions and each side’s opinions should be respected. You guys fights by trying to get one up on the other but reality is your fooling yourselves. The Balkans has always been “a powder keg” with no winners!

The LAW should be enforced and there is not much difference in Serbia, Kosovo/a, Albania, or any other Balkan State! All are corrupt! Each politicians tries to create a media frenzy with some kind of accusation without proof so they can trick the ppl from the real everyday problems that each state has!

Grow up and work to make each citizens life better! You weren’t elected to make yourself rich, famous, etc, but to serve the ppl that elected you. Do your jobs! And stop playing with ppl’s lives for your own gain. That goes out to all the political leaders there. None have the backbone to do what’s right! (Side tracked!)

If you celebrate Christmas, may you and your families have a wonderful one and a Happy New Year! And may any victim of any nationality find peace in having the individuals that committed a crime be brought to justice! Peace on to the victims!

Delphos

pre 13 godina

...and at the first sign of criticism, you play the victim...

and the second, you start looking for scapegoats like the maid you once fired, the secretary who didn't bend over her desk, the driver who made you late, the hitman who missed and then the more public desparation reveals itself so you fire a minister (or,maybe in Dr Thaci's case, a surgeon)

..in the third, when EU threatens to stop aid to fill Swiss your bank account,with rumours swirling about you, someone whispers King Lear and another Macbeth, you get more and more desparate and your trusted advisor, so eaher to please (himself) gets you a book about India and Pakistan.
You find out that flood in Delhi needs war, political trouble in Lahore needs a war, famine comes you need a war and one day, many years hence you discover that wars haven't solved anything because underneath it all you're just another power crazy egomaniac who's watched Scarface one time too many and you're no good at international politics and even more useless at leading your largely illiterate and deluded people to the promised land uncle George once promised.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

. . . Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. . . . . .

Therefore it is PURE LIE.
(PRN, 20 December 2010 15:18)

Got to admit, you had me there, welcome to the site Mr Thaci!!
Nice that you have sense of humour, 'living hero', 'serious candidate'.
How about a serious contribution that covers current issues? Instead of daydreaming of 'hypothetical posts'

Denis

pre 13 godina

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".
(Jovan, 20 December 2010 13:35)

You are wrong. Kosovo is filled with KLA memorials, sculptures, busts, etc. Thanks to your brutal policies K-Alb perceive their existence as a anti-Serbian struggle.
The very idea of Independence of Kosovo is based on the sacrifice and resistance led by the KLA against the Serbian repression. The KLA will live in Kosovo as long as K-Alb goal for Independence is around, and just to refresh your memory, that goal has been around for at least 100 yrs. Serbia had the chance to solve Kosovo conflict without the KLA, while the K-Alb were being led by pacifist Rugova, but you preferred arrogance and brut force, mass killing and mass grave digging.

At least Thaci and other K-Alb for that matter accused of war crimes, are no cowards. He is not hiding or running. He is there and will fly himself to the Hague if they call for him.

However I think that after these accusations Thaci should not get in office, and if I was him I would withdraw from politics.

Also to clarify something else, Hague persecutors went to Albania in 2004 and completed a detailed investigation, for the so called "invisible blood marks" and indeed found nothing.

Charles

pre 13 godina

All this is hardly news.
Anybody who has had any interest in the subject of Kosovo and Metohija over the last twenty years will have heard it all before. Carla Del Ponte, not the least person and somebody who one wouldn't consider pro-serbian, mentioned it in her memoirs. The Western powers immediately took action and she disappeared from the public eye, in an attempt to hush it up.
That Thaci and his croonies have been closely tied to the maffia and heroin smuggling business also isn't any news. The Swiss and Germans have known about him and his gang long before they were 'fighting for freedom'. Again, in the interest of the USA and Western European policies this has all been hushed up.
The EU and the USA have accomplished two great problems in the Balkan in the last few decades: The first is the fundamentalist mulsim state of Bosnia and Hercegovina, even though at the same time the Western nations claim to be on a war against islamic terrorism. This would seem a conflict of interests.
And the escond would be the unilateral creation of mobster state Kosovo, run by big shot mobster Thaci himself.
The USA have a huge army base down there, and as long as they can do what they want, they don't care that Kosovo is run by the Albanian maffia.
I think that Mr. Marty was instructed to get the report out before Wikileaks does, because that is the only interest 'the powers that be' could have.
Nothing is going to change on the ground, Albania (now also a NATO member) will continue to obstruct any investigation on its territory and any witnesses will be killed (by the Kosovo maffia) once they are named, hence the Serbian hesitation to do so.
The only interesting thing about this so-called news, is Thaci's reaction that there is a network out to get him. Over the last few decades, Serbia seems to have had the monopoly on the-world-is-against-us conspiracy theory. However, now Thaci seems to be adopting the same strategy, making him seem more Serbian than he would like. Has anybody checked his ancestory? For, it wouldn't be the first time in the history of this volatile region that the worst perpretrator turns out to be a converted Serb, a modern day Janissary.
Which would mean Kosovo is truly Serbian.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. "
(PRN, 20 December 2010 15:18)

Yes! He would be the best and most appropriate successor for Milosevic, in a united Yugoslavia ;-)

Strangelove

pre 13 godina

The only way to kill a Snake is to step on its head.

This Snake is no exception.

Thaci's grandeur complex (me = America = Free World bravery facing the Forces of Evil), horrible crimes of his terrorist organisation, omerta and amnesia among the Albanians; all of this is making me terribly sick and angry.

It turns out that the false statehood of Kosovo and Metohija is built on blood of the innocent. And we don't hear a single cry of common sense from our Albanian fellow commentators.

The capo di tutti capi is being nervous.

Thaci, do you sleep well in your bed or the blood of innocent victims is haunting you?

And you, our Albanian friends, how about you? Can you sleep with a thought that your PM is a straightforward criminal and that your pseudo-country is nothing more than an American colony?

That your politicians have blood on their hands, that all you believed is turning to dust?

I wouldn't.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Not the first time the Serbs have come up with bogus crimes. Each time gjarpëri has alluded capture.

With patience I wait the truth from this witch hunt.

lids

pre 13 godina

$30.000 per kidney X 400 to much of a money for a common criminal like thaci to pass..
We did not expect much of someone who is still on interpols most wanted list,but we did expect international community to know better then to endorse this monster..
He will forever have that name regardless of how many times he tries to put a blame on opposition of his "democracy"..

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Thaci says "anti-independence network" out to get him"

Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans.

Although I dont like Thaci much, because he has some drawbacks, BUT he has shown that he is a leader capable of unifying the region towards the undisputed EU path.

Thaci has got used with various thugs acusing him, BUT one thing a rational individual should do and ask him/herself...why on earth Tadic wants to meet Thaci, if he 'suspects' on anything...

Therefore it is PURE LIE.

Drownotherday

pre 13 godina

"yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...

criminals have no dignity, they´re like animals, instinct-driven, they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger.

and Touchy, after all is a simple criminal.

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".
(Jovan,"

Yes Jovan, you are right;criminals have no dignity.

In Serbia they hide in the middle of the public, in Kosovo they run for office with "allegations".

Also i agree with "they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger."

Perfect timing by Marty, holding down the info just after the Kosovo elections. Good on the Serb prosecutor who "wont reveal names and facts" about the case. Good that Vuk could be patted by the Russian fm. Good that the whole report is based on another report based on a Serb "journalist" testimony.

Keep guessing, you are really getting into it.
My guess is that once Mladic dies, ultra Serbs will make their kids cry on national tv, just like Slobo days, or Lenin or Mao.

My guess is that Serbia is still a blind child who wants to portray herself in the corner and it should do anything in order to protect them-self.
I think Serbs are deluded with so many lies of them-self that they cant keep up anymore. Do yourself a favor and realize that nobody cars to get into Belgrade, but everyone wants to keep Belgrade and its lies out of other capitals

Top

pre 13 godina

Thaci believes that "Marty was not alone in this process, but rather that there was an 'anti-independence club' behind him".

Yes, the great world conspiration against the independent dream state of Kosovo. And sure, accusations against corrupt leaders and forer KLA criminals are against the "state" itself. Looks like Thaci biggest idol is Louix XIV of France with his famous words: "I am the State"

"Tadic is the legitimate representative of Serbia, and I won the most votes in Kosovo. Such a meeting would be healthy for our European future," explained Thaci.
"Won" the most votes is the wrong word. Bought? Faked? Even Kosovo election authorities found irregularities. And who was benefitting from that?

Je¿ serbski i nietrzeŸwy

pre 13 godina

no one can help thaqi "boss off all bosses" ahahha
(ZMAJ, 20 December 2010 12:34)

Ahahha! Earlier or later evil creatures (like sharks, snakes or pigeons) meet their end.
Sometimes Serbs help in the process.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/17081/48

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...
(Jovan, 20 December 2010 13:35)

Well., not exactly.

He WAS begging, long, long time ago.

Now he's blackmailing "a bit". That's good because otherwise he'll "drove them down too" and that's a proof direct involvements at specific point.

We should never fail on this one as we can reverse EVERYTHING back, they wanted or not.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

Thaci is a spent rod and is holding the whole region back. Isn't there a moderate somewhere in KiM to represent the interests of ethnic Albanians there?
(Zoran, 20 December 2010 12:59)

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Yes., Goran Bogdanovic.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

I am not saying "I am with you Thaqi" cause I never obey to individuals as saints, but as for KLA, yes, yes I was with it, now I am with Kosova Security Forces, and I will be always ready to serve to any of Armies committed to protect the sovereignty Kosova.
(Ilyrian from Vushtrri, 20 December 2010 12:37)

Would you mind elaborating on your contribution, I fail to see the connection with the current topic.
Of more interest, who wrote it for you!!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...

criminals have no dignity, they´re like animals, instinct-driven, they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger.

and Touchy, after all is a simple criminal.

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".

Olli

pre 13 godina

Thaci claims knowing that Dick Marty is a member in "network which opposes Kosovo's independence". This statement directly suggests of Marty's motives, indirectly that Marty is a faker, that his report is forgery and that Marty's office personnel is complicit in this conspiracy.

There's going to be a war between these guys.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

no one can stop thaqi boss off all bosses ahahha
(see, 20 December 2010 11:40)

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no one can help thaqi "boss off all bosses" ahahha

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

According to Thaci, Dick Marty's accusations had therefore "also been addressed against the United States and other Western friends". B92
-----------------------------

I asked here at the very first moment of Guardian's leak- what about US and NATO..

First it was attack on Tachi and KLA.

Then it was attack on Tachi, KLA and "whole Kosova" (potentially Albania).

This is what we need to hear and what have we waiting for. Thank you Tachi.

This is "soft" forcing US/NATO to stay in the "game"., the game of losers.

I can imagine the "soft" transition West will try to make those days..

The things are shaken and moved "from the center" becoming very unstable to keep those criminals together.

I don't know how many times I'd say that we should finally "jump out" with all the legal force (and safe illegal) and drop some few billions.. I'm sure that there's several top witnesses more and some material evidences "around".

We should provide safe heaven to any crucial witness and pay gold for the evidences. Now it's time.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Thaci is a spent rod and is holding the whole region back. Isn't there a moderate somewhere in KiM to represent the interests of ethnic Albanians there?

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

I am not saying "I am with you Thaqi" cause I never obey to individuals as saints, but as for KLA, yes, yes I was with it, now I am with Kosova Security Forces, and I will be always ready to serve to any of Armies committed to protect the sovereignty Kosova.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

According to Thaci, Dick Marty's accusations had therefore "also been addressed against the United States and other Western friends". B92
-----------------------------

I asked here at the very first moment of Guardian's leak- what about US and NATO..

First it was attack on Tachi and KLA.

Then it was attack on Tachi, KLA and "whole Kosova" (potentially Albania).

This is what we need to hear and what have we waiting for. Thank you Tachi.

This is "soft" forcing US/NATO to stay in the "game"., the game of losers.

I can imagine the "soft" transition West will try to make those days..

The things are shaken and moved "from the center" becoming very unstable to keep those criminals together.

I don't know how many times I'd say that we should finally "jump out" with all the legal force (and safe illegal) and drop some few billions.. I'm sure that there's several top witnesses more and some material evidences "around".

We should provide safe heaven to any crucial witness and pay gold for the evidences. Now it's time.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Thaci is a spent rod and is holding the whole region back. Isn't there a moderate somewhere in KiM to represent the interests of ethnic Albanians there?

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

no one can stop thaqi boss off all bosses ahahha
(see, 20 December 2010 11:40)

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no one can help thaqi "boss off all bosses" ahahha

Jovan

pre 13 godina

yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...

criminals have no dignity, they´re like animals, instinct-driven, they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger.

and Touchy, after all is a simple criminal.

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".

Olli

pre 13 godina

Thaci claims knowing that Dick Marty is a member in "network which opposes Kosovo's independence". This statement directly suggests of Marty's motives, indirectly that Marty is a faker, that his report is forgery and that Marty's office personnel is complicit in this conspiracy.

There's going to be a war between these guys.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

Thaci is a spent rod and is holding the whole region back. Isn't there a moderate somewhere in KiM to represent the interests of ethnic Albanians there?
(Zoran, 20 December 2010 12:59)

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Yes., Goran Bogdanovic.

Top

pre 13 godina

Thaci believes that "Marty was not alone in this process, but rather that there was an 'anti-independence club' behind him".

Yes, the great world conspiration against the independent dream state of Kosovo. And sure, accusations against corrupt leaders and forer KLA criminals are against the "state" itself. Looks like Thaci biggest idol is Louix XIV of France with his famous words: "I am the State"

"Tadic is the legitimate representative of Serbia, and I won the most votes in Kosovo. Such a meeting would be healthy for our European future," explained Thaci.
"Won" the most votes is the wrong word. Bought? Faked? Even Kosovo election authorities found irregularities. And who was benefitting from that?

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

At least Thaci and other K-Alb for that matter accused of war crimes, are no cowards. He is not hiding or running. He is there and will fly himself to the Hague if they call for him.
(Denis, 20 December 2010 17:42)

A "hero" does not run to Albania to fight a war when the NATO bombs started dropping in Kosovo. He is nothing more than a coward, thug and criminal; many Albanians were coerced and threatened by his various criminal ties.

Yes, Rugova was a pacifict and if it wasn't for Milosevic, his entire family would have been wiped out by the KLA.

Denis

pre 13 godina

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".
(Jovan, 20 December 2010 13:35)

You are wrong. Kosovo is filled with KLA memorials, sculptures, busts, etc. Thanks to your brutal policies K-Alb perceive their existence as a anti-Serbian struggle.
The very idea of Independence of Kosovo is based on the sacrifice and resistance led by the KLA against the Serbian repression. The KLA will live in Kosovo as long as K-Alb goal for Independence is around, and just to refresh your memory, that goal has been around for at least 100 yrs. Serbia had the chance to solve Kosovo conflict without the KLA, while the K-Alb were being led by pacifist Rugova, but you preferred arrogance and brut force, mass killing and mass grave digging.

At least Thaci and other K-Alb for that matter accused of war crimes, are no cowards. He is not hiding or running. He is there and will fly himself to the Hague if they call for him.

However I think that after these accusations Thaci should not get in office, and if I was him I would withdraw from politics.

Also to clarify something else, Hague persecutors went to Albania in 2004 and completed a detailed investigation, for the so called "invisible blood marks" and indeed found nothing.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

I am not saying "I am with you Thaqi" cause I never obey to individuals as saints, but as for KLA, yes, yes I was with it, now I am with Kosova Security Forces, and I will be always ready to serve to any of Armies committed to protect the sovereignty Kosova.
(Ilyrian from Vushtrri, 20 December 2010 12:37)

Would you mind elaborating on your contribution, I fail to see the connection with the current topic.
Of more interest, who wrote it for you!!

Charles

pre 13 godina

All this is hardly news.
Anybody who has had any interest in the subject of Kosovo and Metohija over the last twenty years will have heard it all before. Carla Del Ponte, not the least person and somebody who one wouldn't consider pro-serbian, mentioned it in her memoirs. The Western powers immediately took action and she disappeared from the public eye, in an attempt to hush it up.
That Thaci and his croonies have been closely tied to the maffia and heroin smuggling business also isn't any news. The Swiss and Germans have known about him and his gang long before they were 'fighting for freedom'. Again, in the interest of the USA and Western European policies this has all been hushed up.
The EU and the USA have accomplished two great problems in the Balkan in the last few decades: The first is the fundamentalist mulsim state of Bosnia and Hercegovina, even though at the same time the Western nations claim to be on a war against islamic terrorism. This would seem a conflict of interests.
And the escond would be the unilateral creation of mobster state Kosovo, run by big shot mobster Thaci himself.
The USA have a huge army base down there, and as long as they can do what they want, they don't care that Kosovo is run by the Albanian maffia.
I think that Mr. Marty was instructed to get the report out before Wikileaks does, because that is the only interest 'the powers that be' could have.
Nothing is going to change on the ground, Albania (now also a NATO member) will continue to obstruct any investigation on its territory and any witnesses will be killed (by the Kosovo maffia) once they are named, hence the Serbian hesitation to do so.
The only interesting thing about this so-called news, is Thaci's reaction that there is a network out to get him. Over the last few decades, Serbia seems to have had the monopoly on the-world-is-against-us conspiracy theory. However, now Thaci seems to be adopting the same strategy, making him seem more Serbian than he would like. Has anybody checked his ancestory? For, it wouldn't be the first time in the history of this volatile region that the worst perpretrator turns out to be a converted Serb, a modern day Janissary.
Which would mean Kosovo is truly Serbian.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

. . . Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. . . . . .

Therefore it is PURE LIE.
(PRN, 20 December 2010 15:18)

Got to admit, you had me there, welcome to the site Mr Thaci!!
Nice that you have sense of humour, 'living hero', 'serious candidate'.
How about a serious contribution that covers current issues? Instead of daydreaming of 'hypothetical posts'

Delphos

pre 13 godina

...and at the first sign of criticism, you play the victim...

and the second, you start looking for scapegoats like the maid you once fired, the secretary who didn't bend over her desk, the driver who made you late, the hitman who missed and then the more public desparation reveals itself so you fire a minister (or,maybe in Dr Thaci's case, a surgeon)

..in the third, when EU threatens to stop aid to fill Swiss your bank account,with rumours swirling about you, someone whispers King Lear and another Macbeth, you get more and more desparate and your trusted advisor, so eaher to please (himself) gets you a book about India and Pakistan.
You find out that flood in Delhi needs war, political trouble in Lahore needs a war, famine comes you need a war and one day, many years hence you discover that wars haven't solved anything because underneath it all you're just another power crazy egomaniac who's watched Scarface one time too many and you're no good at international politics and even more useless at leading your largely illiterate and deluded people to the promised land uncle George once promised.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...
(Jovan, 20 December 2010 13:35)

Well., not exactly.

He WAS begging, long, long time ago.

Now he's blackmailing "a bit". That's good because otherwise he'll "drove them down too" and that's a proof direct involvements at specific point.

We should never fail on this one as we can reverse EVERYTHING back, they wanted or not.

Strangelove

pre 13 godina

The only way to kill a Snake is to step on its head.

This Snake is no exception.

Thaci's grandeur complex (me = America = Free World bravery facing the Forces of Evil), horrible crimes of his terrorist organisation, omerta and amnesia among the Albanians; all of this is making me terribly sick and angry.

It turns out that the false statehood of Kosovo and Metohija is built on blood of the innocent. And we don't hear a single cry of common sense from our Albanian fellow commentators.

The capo di tutti capi is being nervous.

Thaci, do you sleep well in your bed or the blood of innocent victims is haunting you?

And you, our Albanian friends, how about you? Can you sleep with a thought that your PM is a straightforward criminal and that your pseudo-country is nothing more than an American colony?

That your politicians have blood on their hands, that all you believed is turning to dust?

I wouldn't.

kiko

pre 13 godina

To: All

First off, if there were crimes and credible evidence then anyone involved should be legally brought to justice and face any punishment deemed appropriate under the law! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

"Del Ponte explained in the interview that The Hague-based UN war crimes court investigated disappearances of 400 persons and that there were indications that a group of about ten might have been the victim of organ trafficking. " (B92)

Now this is from another article here on B92.

If only 10 out of 400 were possibly victims of organ trafficking then that is 2.5% and if you take how many were Serbs, Albanian, or none Albanian or Serbs, then that percentage diminishes to a far less number.

The reason I point this out is that based on Del Ponte's statement not all the missing were victims of organ trafficking. There is supposedly enough evidence to prove that 10 ppl, which we don't know their ethnic origin, to be actual victims of such a crime.

Let me note that any victim of any national ethnicity is a tragedy! If there is any evidence or knowledge no matter on what side of the border, then that should come to light so the families can know where their loved ones are at so they can make peace with them.

Everyone here has their own opinions and each side’s opinions should be respected. You guys fights by trying to get one up on the other but reality is your fooling yourselves. The Balkans has always been “a powder keg” with no winners!

The LAW should be enforced and there is not much difference in Serbia, Kosovo/a, Albania, or any other Balkan State! All are corrupt! Each politicians tries to create a media frenzy with some kind of accusation without proof so they can trick the ppl from the real everyday problems that each state has!

Grow up and work to make each citizens life better! You weren’t elected to make yourself rich, famous, etc, but to serve the ppl that elected you. Do your jobs! And stop playing with ppl’s lives for your own gain. That goes out to all the political leaders there. None have the backbone to do what’s right! (Side tracked!)

If you celebrate Christmas, may you and your families have a wonderful one and a Happy New Year! And may any victim of any nationality find peace in having the individuals that committed a crime be brought to justice! Peace on to the victims!

Roger7

pre 13 godina

PRN-did you really write" Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. .?"

I think PRN, you should then be 'The Snake's' campaign manager.

Here is Snake's bio information from a Croatia site for you to use.
http://dalje.com/en-world/who-is-hashim-snake-thaci/125467

lids

pre 13 godina

$30.000 per kidney X 400 to much of a money for a common criminal like thaci to pass..
We did not expect much of someone who is still on interpols most wanted list,but we did expect international community to know better then to endorse this monster..
He will forever have that name regardless of how many times he tries to put a blame on opposition of his "democracy"..

Biljana Milo-Ri

pre 13 godina

“Thaci says Marty's charges against him "will not hold him back", and that the accusations had been launched by a "network which opposes Kosovo's independence".

-Hey, Snake if you are innocent as you claim to be, why don’t you then press charges against Mr. Marty for slander! Honest people are not afraid of court.
I mean, if I were really innocent I would have already pressed the charges before International Court. I wouldn’t’ wait a second.

But you are afraid because everything said in the report is truth and nothing but the truth.
That’s why you make such ridiculous and desperate statement.
But desparate man makes desparate statemens. You will soon need diapers :)!!!!

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

I am not saying "I am with you Thaqi" cause I never obey to individuals as saints, but as for KLA, yes, yes I was with it, now I am with Kosova Security Forces, and I will be always ready to serve to any of Armies committed to protect the sovereignty Kosova.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Thaci says "anti-independence network" out to get him"

Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans.

Although I dont like Thaci much, because he has some drawbacks, BUT he has shown that he is a leader capable of unifying the region towards the undisputed EU path.

Thaci has got used with various thugs acusing him, BUT one thing a rational individual should do and ask him/herself...why on earth Tadic wants to meet Thaci, if he 'suspects' on anything...

Therefore it is PURE LIE.

kiko

pre 13 godina

To: All

First off, if there were crimes and credible evidence then anyone involved should be legally brought to justice and face any punishment deemed appropriate under the law! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

"Del Ponte explained in the interview that The Hague-based UN war crimes court investigated disappearances of 400 persons and that there were indications that a group of about ten might have been the victim of organ trafficking. " (B92)

Now this is from another article here on B92.

If only 10 out of 400 were possibly victims of organ trafficking then that is 2.5% and if you take how many were Serbs, Albanian, or none Albanian or Serbs, then that percentage diminishes to a far less number.

The reason I point this out is that based on Del Ponte's statement not all the missing were victims of organ trafficking. There is supposedly enough evidence to prove that 10 ppl, which we don't know their ethnic origin, to be actual victims of such a crime.

Let me note that any victim of any national ethnicity is a tragedy! If there is any evidence or knowledge no matter on what side of the border, then that should come to light so the families can know where their loved ones are at so they can make peace with them.

Everyone here has their own opinions and each side’s opinions should be respected. You guys fights by trying to get one up on the other but reality is your fooling yourselves. The Balkans has always been “a powder keg” with no winners!

The LAW should be enforced and there is not much difference in Serbia, Kosovo/a, Albania, or any other Balkan State! All are corrupt! Each politicians tries to create a media frenzy with some kind of accusation without proof so they can trick the ppl from the real everyday problems that each state has!

Grow up and work to make each citizens life better! You weren’t elected to make yourself rich, famous, etc, but to serve the ppl that elected you. Do your jobs! And stop playing with ppl’s lives for your own gain. That goes out to all the political leaders there. None have the backbone to do what’s right! (Side tracked!)

If you celebrate Christmas, may you and your families have a wonderful one and a Happy New Year! And may any victim of any nationality find peace in having the individuals that committed a crime be brought to justice! Peace on to the victims!

Je¿ serbski i nietrzeŸwy

pre 13 godina

no one can help thaqi "boss off all bosses" ahahha
(ZMAJ, 20 December 2010 12:34)

Ahahha! Earlier or later evil creatures (like sharks, snakes or pigeons) meet their end.
Sometimes Serbs help in the process.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/17081/48

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Not the first time the Serbs have come up with bogus crimes. Each time gjarpëri has alluded capture.

With patience I wait the truth from this witch hunt.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

How about Cedomir Jovanovic? KiM Albanians love him.
(Zoran, 20 December 2010 18:05)

What about Seselj? On is going down another is jumping out (soon), ready to work.

Top

pre 13 godina

"You're trying to hard to remove that title from Serbia. In this case the conspiration is from Serbia and Russia."
(johny, 20 December 2010 19:47)
No, it's exactly the same: Many Serbs think the "evil west" is against them, not seeing that their (former) leaders committed horrible crimes in the name of "Serbdom". Now Thaci thinks similar.

But the fact is: There are simply some people want to know the truth and get perpetrators of crimes where they belong: To prison (and not on a president's chair)

Top

pre 13 godina

"Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. "
(PRN, 20 December 2010 15:18)

Yes! He would be the best and most appropriate successor for Milosevic, in a united Yugoslavia ;-)

Zoran

pre 13 godina

What about Seselj?
(ZMAJ, 20 December 2010 19:58)
--
Nah, Seselj is busy bringing down the NATO court in the Hague and exposing the joint criminal enterprise within it. Well done to him. Check -> http://jurist.org/paperchase/2010/08/icty-orders-independent-investigation-of-witness-intimidation-at-seselj-trial.php

johny

pre 13 godina

"No, it's exactly the same: Many Serbs think the "evil west" is against them, not seeing that their (former) leaders committed horrible crimes in the name of "Serbdom". Now Thaci thinks similar. "

-- Its not the same. Here you have two countries. Russia and Serbia. This really is not the first time these two countries have attempted the total liquidation of the Albanian nation. Just like the present where Kosova is claimed as Serbia's heart; 70 years ago it was Albania that was claimed as Old Serbia. Not only that but the Ruskies pushed so hard for this; it took and American president to stop them.

Now on the other side among those who bombed and facilitated the bombing of Serbia in 1999 there are same of the staunchest Serb allies. Such as Greece. Not to mention the the vast amount of countries taking part in such action nullifies any conspiracy theory. 2 countries can indeed conspire against another nation. More than 20 among whom are some of Serbia's staunchest allies can't.

"But the fact is: There are simply some people want to know the truth and get perpetrators of crimes where they belong: To prison (and not on a president's chair)"

-- Sadly neither Tadic, nor Jeremic, nor you for that matter seem to be among those people. To you this is all about the media game. If that wasn't the case, instead of your gleeful joy from news titles you should be furious why Belgrade hasn't taped a resource as powerful as the UNSC; instead of smiling and complaining to journalists? Why it has been withholding evidence from EULEX for at least two years now; when they posture to the media about their solid strong evidence? Why the total apathy over something as serious as this but plenty of activity over a phone line? Instead of urging concrete actions from Belgrade you are to preoccupied with the posters here.
I have yet to see one single Serb joining me in requesting the Serb government take this urgently to the highest international body out there; the UNSC, and ask for an urgent mandate over a thorough investigation. Why a total lack of even caring to have the support of the strongest international organization. Something ain't right in the attitude of Belgrade because they supposedly seek a fast investigation yet they are doing nothing and taking no concrete actions to make it happen. This is the same attitude of the Serb people.


P.S Biljana there's two possibilities.

1. Thaci maybe hired a few lawyers and they are preparing to sue.

2. Thaci may sue only for the organ accusation; but he may have profited from some auctions over highways for example and that would end his career too.

For you info, he has called for an international investigation over such allegations. Today was the latest time he did that.

Let me know when Serbia request an international investigation in order to find who's hiding war criminals in Serbia or even who actually order Djindjic's murder.

johny

pre 13 godina

"Yes, the great world conspiration against the independent dream state of Kosovo."

-- You're trying to hard to remove that title from Serbia. In this case the conspiration is from Serbia and Russia. This is not that hard to imagine. Its not the first time. This time its a little smarter. They seem no to seek the removal of Thaci but his re-election as a leader that's easy to blackmail. We'll see how its doing to work out.

Je¿ szarplaninski

pre 13 godina

Drunk Serb Football Hooligans-Mossad Sharks 1-0
(rekin basenowy, 20 December 2010 20:04)

Given it's bad luck and dumb way dealing with Serbs - me thinks, it was a different shark, straight from Shark Planina.

Boki

pre 13 godina

Radio Television of Kosovo brings exclusive story of the witness who had been offered large sums of money in exchange for the declaration of the so-called "Yellow House. " The listen only to the prosecution, his testimony provides details of meetings with Igor Jucinacin, suspected and arrested in June 2009-tion of, and released in February this year by an international judge

lili

pre 13 godina

chut!!!!
Don't tell it to Dick Marty or his serbian fellow:his report,far from diminushing the support of the albanian population to Thaci and UCK,has only strengthen them.All kosova and all albanian population is now united as never against these shameful,disgusting accusation. And the more you insist the more we will stand united because we DO know how this war was,and what happened,and we do know who were the criminals and who protected us and whom we have to thank for our liberation!
10 years after,we were just beginning to forget these bad times.thanks to dick marty and thanks to serbian propaganda,we are now as we were just after the war!A freat succes indeed for those who pretend to promote peace...But a big help for nationalist mvts!

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

[link]
(Je¿ serbski i nietrzeŸwy, 20 December 2010 15:44)

ZMAJ SeaShepherdowy Donatorowy 8yr.
http://www.seashepherd.org/sharks/

Milos

pre 13 godina

Johny,

Same as they sued Carla Del Ponte 2 years ago?

03 June 2008 Pristina _ Kosovo’s Parliament has dropped a move to sue the former chief UN war crimes prosecutor over allegations that Kosovo Serbs were killed for their organs.

“We could not proceed with such a step today due to pressure from outside,” said Berat Luzha, a deputy from the Democratic Party of Kosovo, PDK, and the politician who launched the initiative.

Lutfi Haziri, a former Deputy Prime Minister from the Democratic League of Kosovo, LDK, insisted that there was no pressure but rather dropped the idea after “consultations with the international community.”

Drownotherday

pre 13 godina

"yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...

criminals have no dignity, they´re like animals, instinct-driven, they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger.

and Touchy, after all is a simple criminal.

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".
(Jovan,"

Yes Jovan, you are right;criminals have no dignity.

In Serbia they hide in the middle of the public, in Kosovo they run for office with "allegations".

Also i agree with "they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger."

Perfect timing by Marty, holding down the info just after the Kosovo elections. Good on the Serb prosecutor who "wont reveal names and facts" about the case. Good that Vuk could be patted by the Russian fm. Good that the whole report is based on another report based on a Serb "journalist" testimony.

Keep guessing, you are really getting into it.
My guess is that once Mladic dies, ultra Serbs will make their kids cry on national tv, just like Slobo days, or Lenin or Mao.

My guess is that Serbia is still a blind child who wants to portray herself in the corner and it should do anything in order to protect them-self.
I think Serbs are deluded with so many lies of them-self that they cant keep up anymore. Do yourself a favor and realize that nobody cars to get into Belgrade, but everyone wants to keep Belgrade and its lies out of other capitals

Ilyrian from Vushtrri

pre 13 godina

I am not saying "I am with you Thaqi" cause I never obey to individuals as saints, but as for KLA, yes, yes I was with it, now I am with Kosova Security Forces, and I will be always ready to serve to any of Armies committed to protect the sovereignty Kosova.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"Thaci says "anti-independence network" out to get him"

Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans.

Although I dont like Thaci much, because he has some drawbacks, BUT he has shown that he is a leader capable of unifying the region towards the undisputed EU path.

Thaci has got used with various thugs acusing him, BUT one thing a rational individual should do and ask him/herself...why on earth Tadic wants to meet Thaci, if he 'suspects' on anything...

Therefore it is PURE LIE.

Denis

pre 13 godina

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".
(Jovan, 20 December 2010 13:35)

You are wrong. Kosovo is filled with KLA memorials, sculptures, busts, etc. Thanks to your brutal policies K-Alb perceive their existence as a anti-Serbian struggle.
The very idea of Independence of Kosovo is based on the sacrifice and resistance led by the KLA against the Serbian repression. The KLA will live in Kosovo as long as K-Alb goal for Independence is around, and just to refresh your memory, that goal has been around for at least 100 yrs. Serbia had the chance to solve Kosovo conflict without the KLA, while the K-Alb were being led by pacifist Rugova, but you preferred arrogance and brut force, mass killing and mass grave digging.

At least Thaci and other K-Alb for that matter accused of war crimes, are no cowards. He is not hiding or running. He is there and will fly himself to the Hague if they call for him.

However I think that after these accusations Thaci should not get in office, and if I was him I would withdraw from politics.

Also to clarify something else, Hague persecutors went to Albania in 2004 and completed a detailed investigation, for the so called "invisible blood marks" and indeed found nothing.

Drownotherday

pre 13 godina

"yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...

criminals have no dignity, they´re like animals, instinct-driven, they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger.

and Touchy, after all is a simple criminal.

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".
(Jovan,"

Yes Jovan, you are right;criminals have no dignity.

In Serbia they hide in the middle of the public, in Kosovo they run for office with "allegations".

Also i agree with "they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger."

Perfect timing by Marty, holding down the info just after the Kosovo elections. Good on the Serb prosecutor who "wont reveal names and facts" about the case. Good that Vuk could be patted by the Russian fm. Good that the whole report is based on another report based on a Serb "journalist" testimony.

Keep guessing, you are really getting into it.
My guess is that once Mladic dies, ultra Serbs will make their kids cry on national tv, just like Slobo days, or Lenin or Mao.

My guess is that Serbia is still a blind child who wants to portray herself in the corner and it should do anything in order to protect them-self.
I think Serbs are deluded with so many lies of them-self that they cant keep up anymore. Do yourself a favor and realize that nobody cars to get into Belgrade, but everyone wants to keep Belgrade and its lies out of other capitals

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Not the first time the Serbs have come up with bogus crimes. Each time gjarpëri has alluded capture.

With patience I wait the truth from this witch hunt.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

According to Thaci, Dick Marty's accusations had therefore "also been addressed against the United States and other Western friends". B92
-----------------------------

I asked here at the very first moment of Guardian's leak- what about US and NATO..

First it was attack on Tachi and KLA.

Then it was attack on Tachi, KLA and "whole Kosova" (potentially Albania).

This is what we need to hear and what have we waiting for. Thank you Tachi.

This is "soft" forcing US/NATO to stay in the "game"., the game of losers.

I can imagine the "soft" transition West will try to make those days..

The things are shaken and moved "from the center" becoming very unstable to keep those criminals together.

I don't know how many times I'd say that we should finally "jump out" with all the legal force (and safe illegal) and drop some few billions.. I'm sure that there's several top witnesses more and some material evidences "around".

We should provide safe heaven to any crucial witness and pay gold for the evidences. Now it's time.

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

I am not saying "I am with you Thaqi" cause I never obey to individuals as saints, but as for KLA, yes, yes I was with it, now I am with Kosova Security Forces, and I will be always ready to serve to any of Armies committed to protect the sovereignty Kosova.
(Ilyrian from Vushtrri, 20 December 2010 12:37)

Would you mind elaborating on your contribution, I fail to see the connection with the current topic.
Of more interest, who wrote it for you!!

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

no one can stop thaqi boss off all bosses ahahha
(see, 20 December 2010 11:40)

------------------------

no one can help thaqi "boss off all bosses" ahahha

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Thaci is a spent rod and is holding the whole region back. Isn't there a moderate somewhere in KiM to represent the interests of ethnic Albanians there?

Jovan

pre 13 godina

yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...

criminals have no dignity, they´re like animals, instinct-driven, they are desperately reaching out for every straw possible, if in danger.

and Touchy, after all is a simple criminal.

he´ll be forgotten relatively quick, I guess. like all of these k-albanian "heroes".

Wee Kelpie

pre 13 godina

. . . Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. . . . . .

Therefore it is PURE LIE.
(PRN, 20 December 2010 15:18)

Got to admit, you had me there, welcome to the site Mr Thaci!!
Nice that you have sense of humour, 'living hero', 'serious candidate'.
How about a serious contribution that covers current issues? Instead of daydreaming of 'hypothetical posts'

kiko

pre 13 godina

To: All

First off, if there were crimes and credible evidence then anyone involved should be legally brought to justice and face any punishment deemed appropriate under the law! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

"Del Ponte explained in the interview that The Hague-based UN war crimes court investigated disappearances of 400 persons and that there were indications that a group of about ten might have been the victim of organ trafficking. " (B92)

Now this is from another article here on B92.

If only 10 out of 400 were possibly victims of organ trafficking then that is 2.5% and if you take how many were Serbs, Albanian, or none Albanian or Serbs, then that percentage diminishes to a far less number.

The reason I point this out is that based on Del Ponte's statement not all the missing were victims of organ trafficking. There is supposedly enough evidence to prove that 10 ppl, which we don't know their ethnic origin, to be actual victims of such a crime.

Let me note that any victim of any national ethnicity is a tragedy! If there is any evidence or knowledge no matter on what side of the border, then that should come to light so the families can know where their loved ones are at so they can make peace with them.

Everyone here has their own opinions and each side’s opinions should be respected. You guys fights by trying to get one up on the other but reality is your fooling yourselves. The Balkans has always been “a powder keg” with no winners!

The LAW should be enforced and there is not much difference in Serbia, Kosovo/a, Albania, or any other Balkan State! All are corrupt! Each politicians tries to create a media frenzy with some kind of accusation without proof so they can trick the ppl from the real everyday problems that each state has!

Grow up and work to make each citizens life better! You weren’t elected to make yourself rich, famous, etc, but to serve the ppl that elected you. Do your jobs! And stop playing with ppl’s lives for your own gain. That goes out to all the political leaders there. None have the backbone to do what’s right! (Side tracked!)

If you celebrate Christmas, may you and your families have a wonderful one and a Happy New Year! And may any victim of any nationality find peace in having the individuals that committed a crime be brought to justice! Peace on to the victims!

johny

pre 13 godina

"Yes, the great world conspiration against the independent dream state of Kosovo."

-- You're trying to hard to remove that title from Serbia. In this case the conspiration is from Serbia and Russia. This is not that hard to imagine. Its not the first time. This time its a little smarter. They seem no to seek the removal of Thaci but his re-election as a leader that's easy to blackmail. We'll see how its doing to work out.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

At least Thaci and other K-Alb for that matter accused of war crimes, are no cowards. He is not hiding or running. He is there and will fly himself to the Hague if they call for him.
(Denis, 20 December 2010 17:42)

A "hero" does not run to Albania to fight a war when the NATO bombs started dropping in Kosovo. He is nothing more than a coward, thug and criminal; many Albanians were coerced and threatened by his various criminal ties.

Yes, Rugova was a pacifict and if it wasn't for Milosevic, his entire family would have been wiped out by the KLA.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

Thaci is a spent rod and is holding the whole region back. Isn't there a moderate somewhere in KiM to represent the interests of ethnic Albanians there?
(Zoran, 20 December 2010 12:59)

--------------------

Yes., Goran Bogdanovic.

Charles

pre 13 godina

All this is hardly news.
Anybody who has had any interest in the subject of Kosovo and Metohija over the last twenty years will have heard it all before. Carla Del Ponte, not the least person and somebody who one wouldn't consider pro-serbian, mentioned it in her memoirs. The Western powers immediately took action and she disappeared from the public eye, in an attempt to hush it up.
That Thaci and his croonies have been closely tied to the maffia and heroin smuggling business also isn't any news. The Swiss and Germans have known about him and his gang long before they were 'fighting for freedom'. Again, in the interest of the USA and Western European policies this has all been hushed up.
The EU and the USA have accomplished two great problems in the Balkan in the last few decades: The first is the fundamentalist mulsim state of Bosnia and Hercegovina, even though at the same time the Western nations claim to be on a war against islamic terrorism. This would seem a conflict of interests.
And the escond would be the unilateral creation of mobster state Kosovo, run by big shot mobster Thaci himself.
The USA have a huge army base down there, and as long as they can do what they want, they don't care that Kosovo is run by the Albanian maffia.
I think that Mr. Marty was instructed to get the report out before Wikileaks does, because that is the only interest 'the powers that be' could have.
Nothing is going to change on the ground, Albania (now also a NATO member) will continue to obstruct any investigation on its territory and any witnesses will be killed (by the Kosovo maffia) once they are named, hence the Serbian hesitation to do so.
The only interesting thing about this so-called news, is Thaci's reaction that there is a network out to get him. Over the last few decades, Serbia seems to have had the monopoly on the-world-is-against-us conspiracy theory. However, now Thaci seems to be adopting the same strategy, making him seem more Serbian than he would like. Has anybody checked his ancestory? For, it wouldn't be the first time in the history of this volatile region that the worst perpretrator turns out to be a converted Serb, a modern day Janissary.
Which would mean Kosovo is truly Serbian.

lili

pre 13 godina

chut!!!!
Don't tell it to Dick Marty or his serbian fellow:his report,far from diminushing the support of the albanian population to Thaci and UCK,has only strengthen them.All kosova and all albanian population is now united as never against these shameful,disgusting accusation. And the more you insist the more we will stand united because we DO know how this war was,and what happened,and we do know who were the criminals and who protected us and whom we have to thank for our liberation!
10 years after,we were just beginning to forget these bad times.thanks to dick marty and thanks to serbian propaganda,we are now as we were just after the war!A freat succes indeed for those who pretend to promote peace...But a big help for nationalist mvts!

Roger7

pre 13 godina

PRN-did you really write" Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. .?"

I think PRN, you should then be 'The Snake's' campaign manager.

Here is Snake's bio information from a Croatia site for you to use.
http://dalje.com/en-world/who-is-hashim-snake-thaci/125467

Zoran

pre 13 godina

What about Seselj?
(ZMAJ, 20 December 2010 19:58)
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Nah, Seselj is busy bringing down the NATO court in the Hague and exposing the joint criminal enterprise within it. Well done to him. Check -> http://jurist.org/paperchase/2010/08/icty-orders-independent-investigation-of-witness-intimidation-at-seselj-trial.php

lids

pre 13 godina

$30.000 per kidney X 400 to much of a money for a common criminal like thaci to pass..
We did not expect much of someone who is still on interpols most wanted list,but we did expect international community to know better then to endorse this monster..
He will forever have that name regardless of how many times he tries to put a blame on opposition of his "democracy"..

Biljana Milo-Ri

pre 13 godina

“Thaci says Marty's charges against him "will not hold him back", and that the accusations had been launched by a "network which opposes Kosovo's independence".

-Hey, Snake if you are innocent as you claim to be, why don’t you then press charges against Mr. Marty for slander! Honest people are not afraid of court.
I mean, if I were really innocent I would have already pressed the charges before International Court. I wouldn’t’ wait a second.

But you are afraid because everything said in the report is truth and nothing but the truth.
That’s why you make such ridiculous and desperate statement.
But desparate man makes desparate statemens. You will soon need diapers :)!!!!

Strangelove

pre 13 godina

The only way to kill a Snake is to step on its head.

This Snake is no exception.

Thaci's grandeur complex (me = America = Free World bravery facing the Forces of Evil), horrible crimes of his terrorist organisation, omerta and amnesia among the Albanians; all of this is making me terribly sick and angry.

It turns out that the false statehood of Kosovo and Metohija is built on blood of the innocent. And we don't hear a single cry of common sense from our Albanian fellow commentators.

The capo di tutti capi is being nervous.

Thaci, do you sleep well in your bed or the blood of innocent victims is haunting you?

And you, our Albanian friends, how about you? Can you sleep with a thought that your PM is a straightforward criminal and that your pseudo-country is nothing more than an American colony?

That your politicians have blood on their hands, that all you believed is turning to dust?

I wouldn't.

kiko

pre 13 godina

To: All

First off, if there were crimes and credible evidence then anyone involved should be legally brought to justice and face any punishment deemed appropriate under the law! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

"Del Ponte explained in the interview that The Hague-based UN war crimes court investigated disappearances of 400 persons and that there were indications that a group of about ten might have been the victim of organ trafficking. " (B92)

Now this is from another article here on B92.

If only 10 out of 400 were possibly victims of organ trafficking then that is 2.5% and if you take how many were Serbs, Albanian, or none Albanian or Serbs, then that percentage diminishes to a far less number.

The reason I point this out is that based on Del Ponte's statement not all the missing were victims of organ trafficking. There is supposedly enough evidence to prove that 10 ppl, which we don't know their ethnic origin, to be actual victims of such a crime.

Let me note that any victim of any national ethnicity is a tragedy! If there is any evidence or knowledge no matter on what side of the border, then that should come to light so the families can know where their loved ones are at so they can make peace with them.

Everyone here has their own opinions and each side’s opinions should be respected. You guys fights by trying to get one up on the other but reality is your fooling yourselves. The Balkans has always been “a powder keg” with no winners!

The LAW should be enforced and there is not much difference in Serbia, Kosovo/a, Albania, or any other Balkan State! All are corrupt! Each politicians tries to create a media frenzy with some kind of accusation without proof so they can trick the ppl from the real everyday problems that each state has!

Grow up and work to make each citizens life better! You weren’t elected to make yourself rich, famous, etc, but to serve the ppl that elected you. Do your jobs! And stop playing with ppl’s lives for your own gain. That goes out to all the political leaders there. None have the backbone to do what’s right! (Side tracked!)

If you celebrate Christmas, may you and your families have a wonderful one and a Happy New Year! And may any victim of any nationality find peace in having the individuals that committed a crime be brought to justice! Peace on to the victims!

Boki

pre 13 godina

Radio Television of Kosovo brings exclusive story of the witness who had been offered large sums of money in exchange for the declaration of the so-called "Yellow House. " The listen only to the prosecution, his testimony provides details of meetings with Igor Jucinacin, suspected and arrested in June 2009-tion of, and released in February this year by an international judge

Olli

pre 13 godina

Thaci claims knowing that Dick Marty is a member in "network which opposes Kosovo's independence". This statement directly suggests of Marty's motives, indirectly that Marty is a faker, that his report is forgery and that Marty's office personnel is complicit in this conspiracy.

There's going to be a war between these guys.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

yes, ZMAJ, Touchy is literally begging for US-help...
(Jovan, 20 December 2010 13:35)

Well., not exactly.

He WAS begging, long, long time ago.

Now he's blackmailing "a bit". That's good because otherwise he'll "drove them down too" and that's a proof direct involvements at specific point.

We should never fail on this one as we can reverse EVERYTHING back, they wanted or not.

johny

pre 13 godina

"No, it's exactly the same: Many Serbs think the "evil west" is against them, not seeing that their (former) leaders committed horrible crimes in the name of "Serbdom". Now Thaci thinks similar. "

-- Its not the same. Here you have two countries. Russia and Serbia. This really is not the first time these two countries have attempted the total liquidation of the Albanian nation. Just like the present where Kosova is claimed as Serbia's heart; 70 years ago it was Albania that was claimed as Old Serbia. Not only that but the Ruskies pushed so hard for this; it took and American president to stop them.

Now on the other side among those who bombed and facilitated the bombing of Serbia in 1999 there are same of the staunchest Serb allies. Such as Greece. Not to mention the the vast amount of countries taking part in such action nullifies any conspiracy theory. 2 countries can indeed conspire against another nation. More than 20 among whom are some of Serbia's staunchest allies can't.

"But the fact is: There are simply some people want to know the truth and get perpetrators of crimes where they belong: To prison (and not on a president's chair)"

-- Sadly neither Tadic, nor Jeremic, nor you for that matter seem to be among those people. To you this is all about the media game. If that wasn't the case, instead of your gleeful joy from news titles you should be furious why Belgrade hasn't taped a resource as powerful as the UNSC; instead of smiling and complaining to journalists? Why it has been withholding evidence from EULEX for at least two years now; when they posture to the media about their solid strong evidence? Why the total apathy over something as serious as this but plenty of activity over a phone line? Instead of urging concrete actions from Belgrade you are to preoccupied with the posters here.
I have yet to see one single Serb joining me in requesting the Serb government take this urgently to the highest international body out there; the UNSC, and ask for an urgent mandate over a thorough investigation. Why a total lack of even caring to have the support of the strongest international organization. Something ain't right in the attitude of Belgrade because they supposedly seek a fast investigation yet they are doing nothing and taking no concrete actions to make it happen. This is the same attitude of the Serb people.


P.S Biljana there's two possibilities.

1. Thaci maybe hired a few lawyers and they are preparing to sue.

2. Thaci may sue only for the organ accusation; but he may have profited from some auctions over highways for example and that would end his career too.

For you info, he has called for an international investigation over such allegations. Today was the latest time he did that.

Let me know when Serbia request an international investigation in order to find who's hiding war criminals in Serbia or even who actually order Djindjic's murder.

Je¿ serbski i nietrzeŸwy

pre 13 godina

no one can help thaqi "boss off all bosses" ahahha
(ZMAJ, 20 December 2010 12:34)

Ahahha! Earlier or later evil creatures (like sharks, snakes or pigeons) meet their end.
Sometimes Serbs help in the process.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/17081/48

Top

pre 13 godina

"You're trying to hard to remove that title from Serbia. In this case the conspiration is from Serbia and Russia."
(johny, 20 December 2010 19:47)
No, it's exactly the same: Many Serbs think the "evil west" is against them, not seeing that their (former) leaders committed horrible crimes in the name of "Serbdom". Now Thaci thinks similar.

But the fact is: There are simply some people want to know the truth and get perpetrators of crimes where they belong: To prison (and not on a president's chair)

Top

pre 13 godina

Thaci believes that "Marty was not alone in this process, but rather that there was an 'anti-independence club' behind him".

Yes, the great world conspiration against the independent dream state of Kosovo. And sure, accusations against corrupt leaders and forer KLA criminals are against the "state" itself. Looks like Thaci biggest idol is Louix XIV of France with his famous words: "I am the State"

"Tadic is the legitimate representative of Serbia, and I won the most votes in Kosovo. Such a meeting would be healthy for our European future," explained Thaci.
"Won" the most votes is the wrong word. Bought? Faked? Even Kosovo election authorities found irregularities. And who was benefitting from that?

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

How about Cedomir Jovanovic? KiM Albanians love him.
(Zoran, 20 December 2010 18:05)

What about Seselj? On is going down another is jumping out (soon), ready to work.

Je¿ szarplaninski

pre 13 godina

Drunk Serb Football Hooligans-Mossad Sharks 1-0
(rekin basenowy, 20 December 2010 20:04)

Given it's bad luck and dumb way dealing with Serbs - me thinks, it was a different shark, straight from Shark Planina.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Thaci is a living hero, and could easily be the most serious potential candidate of a hypothetical post of a President of the Balkans. "
(PRN, 20 December 2010 15:18)

Yes! He would be the best and most appropriate successor for Milosevic, in a united Yugoslavia ;-)

Delphos

pre 13 godina

...and at the first sign of criticism, you play the victim...

and the second, you start looking for scapegoats like the maid you once fired, the secretary who didn't bend over her desk, the driver who made you late, the hitman who missed and then the more public desparation reveals itself so you fire a minister (or,maybe in Dr Thaci's case, a surgeon)

..in the third, when EU threatens to stop aid to fill Swiss your bank account,with rumours swirling about you, someone whispers King Lear and another Macbeth, you get more and more desparate and your trusted advisor, so eaher to please (himself) gets you a book about India and Pakistan.
You find out that flood in Delhi needs war, political trouble in Lahore needs a war, famine comes you need a war and one day, many years hence you discover that wars haven't solved anything because underneath it all you're just another power crazy egomaniac who's watched Scarface one time too many and you're no good at international politics and even more useless at leading your largely illiterate and deluded people to the promised land uncle George once promised.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

[link]
(Je¿ serbski i nietrzeŸwy, 20 December 2010 15:44)

ZMAJ SeaShepherdowy Donatorowy 8yr.
http://www.seashepherd.org/sharks/

Milos

pre 13 godina

Johny,

Same as they sued Carla Del Ponte 2 years ago?

03 June 2008 Pristina _ Kosovo’s Parliament has dropped a move to sue the former chief UN war crimes prosecutor over allegations that Kosovo Serbs were killed for their organs.

“We could not proceed with such a step today due to pressure from outside,” said Berat Luzha, a deputy from the Democratic Party of Kosovo, PDK, and the politician who launched the initiative.

Lutfi Haziri, a former Deputy Prime Minister from the Democratic League of Kosovo, LDK, insisted that there was no pressure but rather dropped the idea after “consultations with the international community.”