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Saturday, 18.12.2010.

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U.S. to continue cooperation with Thaci

The U.S. will continue to cooperate with Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci despite the CoE report linking him to crimes, the U.S. Department of State has announced.

Izvor: Tanjug

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European

pre 13 godina

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)
(Amer, 20 December 2010 18:09)



Why you people always do that? Why pull the words out of context?
Why you always quote only one piece of text that you want and pull it out of context of the story?
It was a sarcastic comment on yours assertion that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished by visa is that which all EU countries didn’t recognize a Kosovo independence. It has nothing to do with that what you write here now. Nobody in the EU didn’t mention in a single moment that is the problem, but something completely different!
Why you always do that?

Why you can’t talk normally with arguments? Why always blindly defend all that which is yours, even if you own know that there isn't a “clean job” in question? The scary thing is to do something so monstruos, but it’s worse to cover up that and pretend like it never happened! And not a single story doesn’t occur for no reason!


Why are you always argue, distorts the words out of context, playing with words and outwits? Does you console yourselves on that way, or trying to convince us in something?
It’s pointless!

There is a difference between Serbs and Albanians. The whole world knows about the term "Albanian mafia", but nowhere in the world there is no term "Serbian mafia". In Serbia exists many politicians who speak differently from the majority opinion, and live normally and freely in Serbia. Try to imagine how can be some potential Albanian Čedomir Jovanovic finished his career in Kosovo? In Serbia, one of the main theme today is whether gays should be given the right which they ask or not... is not an issue is the state prime minister a mafia boss like in Kosovo! Serbia is going slowly but steadily in the EU. And ask yourself where you're going with such leaders, and with that attitude! Serbia have a special court for war crimes, there are 44 Serbs (from the most important state functions) in the Hague Tribunal, the declaration by Serbian parliament about Srebrenica genocide, and much more ... Serbia is faced with own crimes and own criminals, but you defend your criminals at all costs! Or you really think that they haven’t done anything bad? NO-ONE IS SINLESS – Trust me! Because of that and many other things, Serbia is on a much higher level of civilization development and democracy than Kosovo. Ask yourself again what kind of people are you defending and who will have the most damage from it! Not Serbia - trust me!
This is not the way to build peace and a better future!
It’s imposible that one side get everything, and that other side lose everything! It doesen’t work like that! As soon you understand that, it will be better – first for you, then for all of us!

European

pre 13 godina

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)
(Amer, 20 December 2010 18:09)



Why you people always do that? Why pull the words out of context?
Why you always quote only one piece of text that you want and pull it out of context of the story?
It was a sarcastic comment on yours assertion that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished by visa is that which all EU countries didn’t recognize a Kosovo independence. It has nothing to do with that what you write here now. Nobody in the EU didn’t mention in a single moment that is the problem, but something completely different!
Why you always do that?

Why you can’t talk normally with arguments? Why always blindly defend all that which is yours, even if you own know that there isn't a “clean job” in question? The scary thing is to do something so monstruos, but it’s worse to cover up that and pretend like it never happened! And not a single story doesn’t occur for no reason!


Why are you always argue, distorts the words out of context, playing with words and outwits? Does you console yourselves on that way, or trying to convince us in something?
It’s pointless!

There is a difference between Serbs and Albanians. The whole world knows about the term "Albanian mafia", but nowhere in the world there is no term "Serbian mafia". In Serbia exists many politicians who speak differently from the majority opinion, and live normally and freely in Serbia. Try to imagine how can be some potential Albanian Čedomir Jovanovic finished his career in Kosovo? In Serbia, one of the main theme today is whether gays should be given the right which they ask or not... is not an issue is the state prime minister a mafia boss like in Kosovo! Serbia is going slowly but steadily in the EU. And ask yourself where you're going with such leaders, and with that attitude! Serbia have a special court for war crimes, there are 44 Serbs (from the most important state functions) in the Hague Tribunal, the declaration by Serbian parliament about Srebrenica genocide, and much more ... Serbia is faced with own crimes and own criminals, but you defend your criminals at all costs! Or you really think that they haven’t done anything bad? NO-ONE IS SINLESS – Trust me! Because of that and many other things, Serbia is on a much higher level of civilization development and democracy than Kosovo. Ask yourself again what kind of people are you defending and who will have the most damage from it! Not Serbia - trust me!
This is not the way to build peace and a better future!
It’s imposible that one side get everything, and that other side lose everything! It doesen’t work like that! As soon you understand that, it will be better – first for you, then for all of us!

Amer

pre 13 godina

"USA is the first country which is recognize independent Kosovo! And Americans don't want to let you into their country without a visa!
Ask your self...
(European, 19 December 2010 21:17) "

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)

mirsadkrasniqi

pre 13 godina

Mr. Thaci does not represent the entire population in kosovo for actions he may/may not be guilty for.

However, it is elusive as to why the serbian community in b92 refuse to remember that serbia attempted ethnic cleansing throughout the balkans, one only needs to remember Srebrenica, let alone the 12,000 innocent civilians in Kosovo that were slaughtered, that included children and thousands of raped women during milosevic's reign in Serbia.

So you are hardly the ones that should point the fingers.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

what else should the US-officials say? =)

but, frankly said, that´s showing how desperately reduced the Americans are in regard to reliable partners among the K-albanian "regime" are.

very good. stand by a criminal, my american friends! that´s helping the US-american and greater-albanian cause of course! =)

KARAMUSTAFA

pre 13 godina

Olli, the person from Hague Tribunal who received box with evidence from UMNIK related to organ harvesting has initials PH (remember that link I have sent you few days ago). However, the whole evidence received from UMNIK has been destroyed by Hague Tribunal.

Would be nice to find out why the whole evidence has been destroyed and who decided not to continue with criminal investigation. Lack of evidence or something else?

European

pre 13 godina

"Save us time please because we have more important work to do than read rubbish. Kosovo’s people can not travel yet without visas because Kosovo is not recognized by all EU members..."

(Endri, 19 December 2010 17:48)


-Aare you really sure that's the only reason? If you really think that is the only reason, then you aren't informed and you are too naive!
I think it's a funniest reason that I have ever heard.
And if this is the real reason, then why you can't travel to the USA (your biggest allies and friend) without a visa? USA is the first country which is recognize independent Kosovo! And Americans don't want to let you into their country without a visa!
Ask your self...

man without prejudice

pre 13 godina

@Endri
ok Endri, you are the smartest and most informed person on the planet! And you Albanians are sinless angels and didn’t do any bad thing! There is no crime in Kosovo, and your leaders are angels! Dick Marty, and Council of Europe are the villains and pro-Serbian fascists who hate the Albanians! And I have no idea about and nothing. How can I dared to “heaven on earth” called Kosovo call brood of crime!
After this your comments, and after you pull all my words out of context, doesn't surprise me anymore why all this is happening! Enjoy in the writing your studies and elaborates on this blog, just don’t forget that neither you, nor I will not make decisions about this issue, but some people who are much more powerful than all of us!!
And one more thing - the biggest mafia in the U.S. known to be gangsters, but they couldn’t be arrested because there was insufficient evidence against them! Mobsters makes every effort to destroy all evidence against them! Don't worry, if “they” wanted to see Hashim Thaci in prison, the evidence will be found without any problem!
And if you think that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished visa, is that which not all EU countries recognized Kosovo, then you have a big problem, and you are wery naive!
And if this is the only reason, then you will never be able to travel without a visa, because some countries will never recognize Kosovo, such as Cyprus, Slovakia...! ask yourself – is that a real reason!

I ended the discussion with you and everyone else.
Greetings, and I wish you all the best!

Pete

pre 13 godina

US Albanian relations are based on mutual interests. Well you can say that again pal! Attack Serbia a country that's never done you any harm, and in fact saved your wretched pilots during the Second World war only to see their descendants return to bomb you sixty years later, then steal her cherished province hand it over to a bunch of cut throats and build a vast military complex free of charge. Yes indeed you do have mutual interests. It's called international piracy!

Endri

pre 13 godina

“I don’t understand why some of you constantly defend that Albanian monsters, when you know that real truth is what is being said”

I see that your nick is covered with mud right from the first sentence. Albanian are monsters only because Dick Marty says so!!!!! Or only because this is the wishful thinking of the majority of Serbs on this blog!!!! In order to call someone monsters you must have obviously genuine evidences of crimes based on facts presented to the court. You thinking is comparable with the one of an poorly educated person who can make us a favor not to troll here.

“ I personally know some Albanians and I talk to them, and any of them admit that many bad things happened and are still happening in Kosovo. Albanians themselves are afraid of the main bosses in Kosovo and they are afraid for they own destiny! All Albanians know in what kind of criminal environment they live, and unfortunately they don’t mind, or they are afraid to say anything against Albanian bosses because they know how they could end up!”

I am one of them to admit the problems of Albania, Kosovo and all Balkan countries. All we have more or less the same problems concerning crimes or illegal activities. To say that such exist only among Albanian that is simply ridiculous. That means that you have no idea of what is going on around here and you comment is obviously based on “histories” told by others. The people who bow to the mafia bosses can be found around but not in Kosovo or Albania. Try to know some Albanians in order to understand what I mean.

“ It’s a very bad thing – bad thing for you Albanians, not for Serbs! You live in a mafia state, not Serbians! Whole Europe and America know that Kosovo is a center of crime in Europe. Everyone knows that Kosovo is a center of drug trafficking, organ trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all other things ... Al Qaeda also has a foothold in Kosovo ... And why it seems so unbelievable that these same criminals in Kosovo traded with organs of Serbian victims? That story is not taken for no reason! “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”!”

You say you are the man without prejudice but so far there can only be seen clear prejudices. “bad for us but good for Serbs, we live in mafia state but not Serbians. If you are a pseudo analyst can you tell us how did you come to such conclusions? Or u want to imitate Mr. Dick???? The most interesting story was that of Al Qaeda. Please do us a favor and tell us where is the headquarter of Al Qaeda in Kosovo!! You will be rewarded by Europe and USA since they haven’t found it so far. As for the smoke I can tell you that my car exhumes smoke but I haven’t seen any fire so far..Just for you curiosity.

“Ask yourselves why only people from Kosovo can't travel around Europe without a visa!!!
Only when you become self-critical, you will progress!”

Save us time please because we have more important work to do than read rubbish. Kosovo’s people can not travel yet without visas because Kosovo is not recognized by all EU members. It has nothing to do with your prejudices presented above so far. Such cheap lessons are really boring to be seen here.

man without prejudice

pre 13 godina

Listen to me people.
I don’t understand why some of you constantly defend that Albanian monsters, when you know that real truth is what is being said. I personally know some Albanians and I talk to them, and any of them admit that many bad things happened and are still happening in Kosovo. Albanians themselves are afraid of the main bosses in Kosovo and they are afraid for they own destiny! All Albanians know in what kind of criminal environment they live, and unfortunately they don’t mind, or they are afraid to say anything against Albanian bosses because they know how they could end up! It’s a very bad thing – bad thing for you Albanians, not for Serbs! You live in a mafia state, not Serbians! Whole Europe and America know that Kosovo is a center of crime in Europe. Everyone knows that Kosovo is a center of drug trafficking, organ trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all other things ... Al Qaeda also has a foothold in Kosovo ... And why it seems so unbelievable that these same criminals in Kosovo traded with organs of Serbian victims? That story is not taken for no reason! “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”!

Ask yourselves why only people from Kosovo can't travel around Europe without a visa!!!
Only when you become self-critical, you will progress!

Top

pre 13 godina

"The TRUTH is in the side of the FREEDOM it is in the side of KOSOVA."
(ben, 19 December 2010 11:53)

And the truth is: The current and previous government of Kosovo was (and probably still is) connected to all sorts of criminal activities. This is known, and they will face justice, eventually. Only a metter of time...

jb

pre 13 godina

money talks and the US should put up or shut up.
Does Iraq, or maybe Afganistan ring any common sense to the comments from the US about the snake. Until found guilty, what the f... did you do to Iraq?

ben

pre 13 godina

(roberto, 18 December 2010 20:07)

Roberto your comments as always excellent.

Serbs are used to celebrate vicotry in the early start and then punctually lose in the end: wars, UN Trials of Serbian leadsrs for crimes in Kosova, ICJ.

This case HAS BEEN investigated by:

1. Hague Tribunal
2. Albanian authorities
3. EULEX

They all found NOTHING.

Now do you bealive that another investigation will find new evidence beside what the Dick already said: there is nothing new here the only new thing is that someone put this story in writing ????

We are much much stronger than your propaganda.


Another investigation??? so be it.

The CLEANEST war for FREEDOM of Kosova will not be dirtied by the Dick's report .

Serbs had great support from some European xsenofobic circles during 1999 when in front of the enitre world . imagine now that they are free from the presure of the evidence. Now they are in offensive BUT they WILL LOSE.

The TRUTH is in the side of the FREEDOM it is in the side of KOSOVA.

Robot Berta

pre 13 godina

Our wanna-be frustrated journalist who fills most of his rantings with childish name-calling is now resorting to profanity?
(Roger7, 18 December 2010 21:00)

I will call my frnds dalai lama and ntasa kndic and li baoxo and bill clinton, you know, last time I was dining with obama and he listened to what I say... oh well, such nice pple here, thnkyou B92 - so all they will tell you that you are a serbian ultra-nationalist from belarus. i rather be in saraj now in a cafe with my frnd zukorlic, he is very nice it's all blgrde fault that there is snow on sar planina now, shame on you all iranian nationalists from russia.

Ciao!

Robot berta
Fresco

Mr. Baloney

pre 13 godina

Roberto wrote over 20 lines presenting his ideas. Not a single line to answer the long outstanding question: what was that "baloney" comment regarding possible victims of this case.

Thank you Roberto in advance for the cooperation.

European

pre 13 godina

1) First of all – this is not a Serbian report, but the Council of Europe report! This is NOT “Belgrade's soup”!

2)Second - evidence exists! Witnesses exist!
Do you really expect that someone might say who the witnesses are, and that they disappear like all the previous witnesses against Albanian criminals?

3)Third - Tadic said what he had to say so as to prevent failure of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina. He must to speak with him, because he is Albanian leader! But America doesn’t have to say that, America doesn’t have to worry about nothing.
America doesn’t cooperate with some other leaders in world for a much smaller charges! Slobodan Milosevic was " innocent until proven otherwise" too, but Americans didn’t cooperate with him!

4) Fourth - The investigation about this monstruos thing has already been earlier, but was deliberately obstructed, and the evidence is destroyed directly. About these things says Carla Del Ponte. - Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY, Dick Marty, and everyone else! Americans are destroying evidence to protect the Albanian leaders, due to political pragmatism!
But they failed to destroy all the evidence because the evidence is still exist! And everything will be proven if USA stops obstructs an investigation!
Have you really thought that one so serious institutions like the Council of Europe is can give the report with such serious allegations, and that there is no strong evidence for that?
Dick Marty is man which is investigating the scandal of Guantanamo prisoners too. He knows how to do his job! Don’t worry guys!

5)Fifth - No one can stop the truth! sooner or later, everything will be revealed! Or the world will finaly find out the same thing what thousands of Serbian victims and their families already knows!

Good bye!

Mr. Baloney

pre 13 godina

Roberto wrote over 20 lines presenting his ideas. Not a single line to answer the long outstanding question: what was that "baloney" comment regarding possible victims of this case.

Thank you Roberto in advance for the cooperation.

Mike

pre 13 godina

“I don’t think it’s going to change fundamentally U.S.-Kosovo relations. I mean, they’re based on our mutual interest, not on specific personalities,” Crowley said.

-- Like golly gee! This stuff seems real bad! But since I'm only a paid mouthpiece with not high enough clearance to really know what's going on, I say we just go on our daily business! Whew! This job's hard!

"So, this is what that means: rather than reacting to every 2-bit hack (marty, white witch) we will wait for an actual and REAL investigation into these truly horrifying charges. and then we will make our decision, not based on the usual agit-prop from the blgd regime and their ever loyal media. not to mention their ever loyal diaspora." (roberto)

-- Keep that in mind the next time you decide to be a 2-bit hack journalist and cry through your keyboard at the slightest rumor of another mass grave that holds remains of people other than Serbs. People like Del Ponte and Marty are heroes to you so long as they're hunting Mladic and putting pressure on Belgrade. The minute they have the insane idea of being objective and leveling long-suspected accuations against groups other than Serbs, they become "2-bit hacks." I'd say extract your head from your lower extremities, but I fear your condition is self-inflicted.

European!

pre 13 godina

1)First of all – this is not a Serbian report, but the Council of Europe report! This is NOT “Belgrade's soup”!

2)Second - evidence exists! Witnesses exist!
Do you really expect that someone might say who the witnesses are, and to they disappear like all the previous witnesses against Albanian criminals?

3)Third - Tadic said what he had to say so as to prevent failure of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina. But America doesn’t have to say that, America doesn’t have to worry about anything.
America doesn’t cooperate with some other leaders in world for a much smaller charges!
Slobodan Milosevic was " innocent until proven otherwise" too, but Americans didn’t cooperate with him!

4)Fourth - The investigation about this monstruos thing has already been earlier, but was deliberately obstructed, and the evidence is destroyed directly.
About these things says Carla Del Ponte. - Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY, Dick Marty, and everyone else! Americans were destroying evidence to protect the Albanian leaders, due to political pragmatism!
But they failed to destroy all the evidence because the evidence still exist! And everything will be proven if USA stops obstructs an investigation!
Have you really thought that one so serious institutions like the Council of Europe is can give the report with such serious allegations, and that there is no strong evidence for that?
Dick Marty is man which is investigating the scandal of Guantanamo prisoners too. He knows how to do his job! Don’t worry guys!

5) Fifth - No one can stop the truth! sooner or later, everything will be revealed! Or the world will finaly find out the same thing what thousands of Serbian victims and their families already knows!

Good bye!

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

This should come to anyone as a surprise.

The United States needs to protect Thaci with all their might right now. Their credibility is on the line at the moment.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

have a nice day! my first day of winter vacation!

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 18 December 2010 20:07)

hopefully your brain will not freeze we might miss your multi talents and multi facets comments...
Enjoy

Roberto's fans' club

michael

pre 13 godina

Did we miss somthing here or is the US political blowhole contradicting itself with this obvious doubletalk. If memory serves, I do recall countless accusations against Serbs for any and all deeds committed in Bosnia and Kosovo which labeled and demonized a whole nation guilty well before proven innocent.

Didn't Joey Bidden say this regarding Serbia ,"we should have a Japanese-German style occupation of that country." Sounds like a conviction by a cop, judge, and jury all wrapped up into one loveable fuzzball.

Where was the trial of the Serbian nation? Guilty until proven innocent, guilty for being Serbian, guilty because we the USA say it is so. Does anoyone believe the State Department lies except for the fanatical KLA supporters?

Serbia is slowly winning this battle, and as time marches on more victories will emerge...patience.

EA

pre 13 godina

"The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend!"

Stunned democrat, Who told you the above? We have a say in Albania a mad man threw a stone in the river and thousands jumped in to find the stone....As a non stunned democrat you should know that unless proved guilty the the person is innocent. Now wandering how will you know when your mind is in Cuba, North Korea, China and Russia.....))

Roger7

pre 13 godina

roberto said in a recent post... "i wish, send me a fu---ing ticket. is it 'sposed to be a put-down if i were in pristina w/ my "albanian brothers-and sisters"?"

Our wanna-be frustrated journalist who fills most of his rantings with childish name-calling is now resorting to profanity?

You can pretend to be anything you want to be on the internet...even an investigative journalist.

johny

pre 13 godina

Serbs stop being bitter. Tadic will be the first one to shake his hand. If Serbs are willing to cooperate and sit and talk with him; what else do you expect from the rest of the world. If Serbia is unwilling to indict him what else do you expect from the rest of the world.
You claim you have solid proofs you charge him.
Your failure to charge him shows that you have nothing. Your failure to even take one single action shows that you have nothing. Keep bit..ching about phone lines meanwhile.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-He repeated that the Washington administration was “fully supporting any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges”.-

So, this is what that means: rather than reacting to every 2-bit hack (marty, white witch) we will wait for an actual and REAL investigation into these truly horrifying charges. and then we will make our decision, not based on the usual agit-prop from the blgd regime and their ever loyal media. not to mention their ever loyal diaspora.

as for the "civilized world," yes, we are not supporting yr pals in belarus (that nice mr lukashenko); that nice mr putin (your great "post" stalinist savior); yr good pals in the stalinist/communist regime of north korea; that nice mr Ahmadinejad; that nice mr mladic that those not-so-nice mr's jeremic and tadic and co. are harboring...

have a nice day! my first day of winter vacation!

roberto
frisco

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

"..educate yourself."

[link]
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded
(KOSO, 18 December 2010 16:31)

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With a YouTube video??

Je¿ nerki cz³owieka

pre 13 godina

[link]
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded
(KOSO, 18 December 2010 16:31)

Thanks for the link - what worries me - what happened with the kidneys of the three arrested? Very "popular" movie, got 9203 views. Hope, the arrested are OK.

But why not tell the truth? The link is Abanian "answer" to an other video. That video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jNTNsGXZ0
(view count: 85005)

Looks, like 85005 people are interested in truth, 9203 in snake-propaganda.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

-I'm from Switzerland my friend!!!

-whatever you speak, your actions say everything about you Americans. You collaborate with the famous "Democrat" Hashim Thaci - he's your man! The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend! And because of that I understand why you defend him!
I suspect that many customers of Serbian organs were Americans.
-I'm sure that Wikileaks have something to say about it! Just wait!
(stunned Democrat, 18 December 2010)

Since you seem to be very ignorant of this matter I'd like to tell you that the customers were German, Canadian, and Israelis by and large. The doctor performing the transplants was a Turk and the donors were Turks, Kurds, Moldovans, and other former Soviet republic citizens.

It's best to be well-informed if you wanna opine on any topic.

It's also funny how you take the moral high ground as a Swiss when your country hid Nazi gold and stolen properties from the Jews for years and continues to this day to do so and it's the only country that has secrecy banking laws being a magnet for every dictator and corrupt politicians in the world.

They'll be investigating Thaci's bank accounts now: wanna guess which country is the prime suspect?

Did it ever occur to you that Switzerland might be perpetrating evil in this world by providing refuge to the monsters' finances. How about you petition Dick Marty to investigate Swiss banks and their wrongdoings for the past 300 years?

No you guys get a free pass, you're Swiss after all.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

cooperation and how it happened...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/balkans-report-blairs-liberal-intervention

KU

pre 13 godina

Well of course, since Serbia itself will continue cooperation with Thaci, why shouldn't the US continue cooperation with Thaci?
See here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/in_focus.php?id=91&start=15&nav_id=71543

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=12&dd=18&nav_id=71604

Olli

pre 13 godina

Here's what is happening in the video you linked, according to an Albanian writer:

"You can see 3 Serbian spies trying to convince a Kosovar Albanian to admit that his organs were transplanted during the war. They offer him 60,000-70,000 Euros for saying that, reminding him that he could most probably get 300,000 if successful like other "witnesses". All this conversation is recorded while 3 spies are arrested by Kosovo Police, another collaborator awaiting to get arrested. They are believed to be sent from Serbia to convince people of this ridiculous LIE."

Now, let's take a breath and think for a moment.

So, here we a case of a Serbian agent offering money to an albanian (agent?) asking this to testify that his organ was forcefully removed.

Is this Serbian agent suggesting that the removed organ should be Albanian's brains? I'm pretty sure they agreed about this: "Let's say the removed organ was the brains because if you say that it was a kidney, they could find out that you've got both of them left, but who could tell the difference between an Albanian having his brains still with him or not having?

KOSO, can you tell me how this case developed? What was the outcome?

Young European

pre 13 godina

come on...what did u expect? Suddenly, a Santa Claus comes up with a completeley political fake report and accuses one person for human organ trafficking without any proof or argument??!! You believe that USA and other western powers will suddenly be naive and eat Belgrade's bad cooking soup!! You can just dream on my dear friends, Kosovo independence was a long process that will be finalized when it will be a full member of European Union and you can do nothing to stop this, even if you buy some Dick Santa Marty..

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

The U.S. will continue to cooperate with Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci despite the CoE report linking him to crimes, the U.S. Department of State has announced.

"To be read": we are happy to continue to cooperate with a criminal, because we are holding him by the balls. The worst he is, the better for us. When we want him to lift the left hand, we pull the left string, when we want him to open his mounth we pull the front string etc etc etc, so hopefully this investigation will drag on and on and on until we finalized our hiden agenda. If he doesn't obey anymore or if we don't need him anymore then we have different ways of making it happend...
Yes, indeed good friends...

Amer

pre 13 godina

Marty himself says that he has no new evidence, that he is basing his report on the findings of foreign intelligence agencies, which were not considered by their countries to be worth further investigation. These agencies included that of the Greeks, one of Serbia's strongest supporters. Even they did not consider the leads worth following?

Under the circumstances, Kouchner's response seems appropriate: he's sceptical, but says there should be a thorough investigation. Until there has been one, why would the US not continue to work with Thaci?

stunned Democrat

pre 13 godina

@KOSO
A ok, you aren't from USA, you are from Kosovo! My mistake. Now I understand why you defending that monster. You are probably voted for him! And any movie from you tube will not change the truth about kosovo and America.
And I really don't want to talk anymore with people who approve such kind of monstrous crimes - even if his own people in order!
Good luck!

Steve JP

pre 13 godina

Why is the USA so buddy buddy with Thaci? Is there some type of sinister friendship between the two of them? You know the old saying: "Birds of a feather flock together".

stunned Democrat

pre 13 godina

@EA
"What civilised world are you referring to? Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia? I know where you are coming from."

-I'm from Switzerland my friend!!!

-whatever you speak, your actions say everything about you Americans. You collaborate with the famous "Democrat" Hashim Thaci - he's your man! The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend! And because of that I understand why you defend him!
I suspect that many customers of Serbian organs were Americans.
-I'm sure that Wikileaks have something to say about it! Just wait!

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Hey swiss,
just because you're ranting or yelling it doesn't mean your right. Since you're ignorant to the matter, or anything Kosovo-related, educate yourself.

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Since the usa has shielded war criminals in the past and continues today, this announcement is not surprising. Since the usa refuses to acknowledge the authority of the hague over them, but routinely sends suspects to stand trial there, this announcement is not surprising. What is different now is that due to several recent incidences including this ghoulish revelation, the usa is not trusted in most places in the world and will get very little cooperation in their future plans.

Top

pre 13 godina

"He repeated that the Washington administration was “fully supporting any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges”."

If the like to cooperate with Thaci, maybe the "Washington administration" should tell him to do the same: Supporting investigations instead of denying and hinder it wherever possible.

EA

pre 13 godina

"USA is a disgrace of the civilized world!"
(stunned Democrat, 18 December 2010 14:08)

What civilised world are you referring to? Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia? I know where you are coming from.

stunned Democrat

pre 13 godina

@EA
"What civilised world are you referring to? Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia? I know where you are coming from."

-I'm from Switzerland my friend!!!

-whatever you speak, your actions say everything about you Americans. You collaborate with the famous "Democrat" Hashim Thaci - he's your man! The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend! And because of that I understand why you defend him!
I suspect that many customers of Serbian organs were Americans.
-I'm sure that Wikileaks have something to say about it! Just wait!

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Since the usa has shielded war criminals in the past and continues today, this announcement is not surprising. Since the usa refuses to acknowledge the authority of the hague over them, but routinely sends suspects to stand trial there, this announcement is not surprising. What is different now is that due to several recent incidences including this ghoulish revelation, the usa is not trusted in most places in the world and will get very little cooperation in their future plans.

EA

pre 13 godina

"USA is a disgrace of the civilized world!"
(stunned Democrat, 18 December 2010 14:08)

What civilised world are you referring to? Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia? I know where you are coming from.

Roger7

pre 13 godina

roberto said in a recent post... "i wish, send me a fu---ing ticket. is it 'sposed to be a put-down if i were in pristina w/ my "albanian brothers-and sisters"?"

Our wanna-be frustrated journalist who fills most of his rantings with childish name-calling is now resorting to profanity?

You can pretend to be anything you want to be on the internet...even an investigative journalist.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

"..educate yourself."

[link]
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded
(KOSO, 18 December 2010 16:31)

----------------

With a YouTube video??

Steve JP

pre 13 godina

Why is the USA so buddy buddy with Thaci? Is there some type of sinister friendship between the two of them? You know the old saying: "Birds of a feather flock together".

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

The U.S. will continue to cooperate with Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci despite the CoE report linking him to crimes, the U.S. Department of State has announced.

"To be read": we are happy to continue to cooperate with a criminal, because we are holding him by the balls. The worst he is, the better for us. When we want him to lift the left hand, we pull the left string, when we want him to open his mounth we pull the front string etc etc etc, so hopefully this investigation will drag on and on and on until we finalized our hiden agenda. If he doesn't obey anymore or if we don't need him anymore then we have different ways of making it happend...
Yes, indeed good friends...

Top

pre 13 godina

"He repeated that the Washington administration was “fully supporting any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges”."

If the like to cooperate with Thaci, maybe the "Washington administration" should tell him to do the same: Supporting investigations instead of denying and hinder it wherever possible.

stunned Democrat

pre 13 godina

@KOSO
A ok, you aren't from USA, you are from Kosovo! My mistake. Now I understand why you defending that monster. You are probably voted for him! And any movie from you tube will not change the truth about kosovo and America.
And I really don't want to talk anymore with people who approve such kind of monstrous crimes - even if his own people in order!
Good luck!

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Hey swiss,
just because you're ranting or yelling it doesn't mean your right. Since you're ignorant to the matter, or anything Kosovo-related, educate yourself.

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded

Endri

pre 13 godina

“I don’t understand why some of you constantly defend that Albanian monsters, when you know that real truth is what is being said”

I see that your nick is covered with mud right from the first sentence. Albanian are monsters only because Dick Marty says so!!!!! Or only because this is the wishful thinking of the majority of Serbs on this blog!!!! In order to call someone monsters you must have obviously genuine evidences of crimes based on facts presented to the court. You thinking is comparable with the one of an poorly educated person who can make us a favor not to troll here.

“ I personally know some Albanians and I talk to them, and any of them admit that many bad things happened and are still happening in Kosovo. Albanians themselves are afraid of the main bosses in Kosovo and they are afraid for they own destiny! All Albanians know in what kind of criminal environment they live, and unfortunately they don’t mind, or they are afraid to say anything against Albanian bosses because they know how they could end up!”

I am one of them to admit the problems of Albania, Kosovo and all Balkan countries. All we have more or less the same problems concerning crimes or illegal activities. To say that such exist only among Albanian that is simply ridiculous. That means that you have no idea of what is going on around here and you comment is obviously based on “histories” told by others. The people who bow to the mafia bosses can be found around but not in Kosovo or Albania. Try to know some Albanians in order to understand what I mean.

“ It’s a very bad thing – bad thing for you Albanians, not for Serbs! You live in a mafia state, not Serbians! Whole Europe and America know that Kosovo is a center of crime in Europe. Everyone knows that Kosovo is a center of drug trafficking, organ trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all other things ... Al Qaeda also has a foothold in Kosovo ... And why it seems so unbelievable that these same criminals in Kosovo traded with organs of Serbian victims? That story is not taken for no reason! “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”!”

You say you are the man without prejudice but so far there can only be seen clear prejudices. “bad for us but good for Serbs, we live in mafia state but not Serbians. If you are a pseudo analyst can you tell us how did you come to such conclusions? Or u want to imitate Mr. Dick???? The most interesting story was that of Al Qaeda. Please do us a favor and tell us where is the headquarter of Al Qaeda in Kosovo!! You will be rewarded by Europe and USA since they haven’t found it so far. As for the smoke I can tell you that my car exhumes smoke but I haven’t seen any fire so far..Just for you curiosity.

“Ask yourselves why only people from Kosovo can't travel around Europe without a visa!!!
Only when you become self-critical, you will progress!”

Save us time please because we have more important work to do than read rubbish. Kosovo’s people can not travel yet without visas because Kosovo is not recognized by all EU members. It has nothing to do with your prejudices presented above so far. Such cheap lessons are really boring to be seen here.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

have a nice day! my first day of winter vacation!

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 18 December 2010 20:07)

hopefully your brain will not freeze we might miss your multi talents and multi facets comments...
Enjoy

Roberto's fans' club

Zoti

pre 13 godina

-I'm from Switzerland my friend!!!

-whatever you speak, your actions say everything about you Americans. You collaborate with the famous "Democrat" Hashim Thaci - he's your man! The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend! And because of that I understand why you defend him!
I suspect that many customers of Serbian organs were Americans.
-I'm sure that Wikileaks have something to say about it! Just wait!
(stunned Democrat, 18 December 2010)

Since you seem to be very ignorant of this matter I'd like to tell you that the customers were German, Canadian, and Israelis by and large. The doctor performing the transplants was a Turk and the donors were Turks, Kurds, Moldovans, and other former Soviet republic citizens.

It's best to be well-informed if you wanna opine on any topic.

It's also funny how you take the moral high ground as a Swiss when your country hid Nazi gold and stolen properties from the Jews for years and continues to this day to do so and it's the only country that has secrecy banking laws being a magnet for every dictator and corrupt politicians in the world.

They'll be investigating Thaci's bank accounts now: wanna guess which country is the prime suspect?

Did it ever occur to you that Switzerland might be perpetrating evil in this world by providing refuge to the monsters' finances. How about you petition Dick Marty to investigate Swiss banks and their wrongdoings for the past 300 years?

No you guys get a free pass, you're Swiss after all.

European

pre 13 godina

1) First of all – this is not a Serbian report, but the Council of Europe report! This is NOT “Belgrade's soup”!

2)Second - evidence exists! Witnesses exist!
Do you really expect that someone might say who the witnesses are, and that they disappear like all the previous witnesses against Albanian criminals?

3)Third - Tadic said what he had to say so as to prevent failure of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina. He must to speak with him, because he is Albanian leader! But America doesn’t have to say that, America doesn’t have to worry about nothing.
America doesn’t cooperate with some other leaders in world for a much smaller charges! Slobodan Milosevic was " innocent until proven otherwise" too, but Americans didn’t cooperate with him!

4) Fourth - The investigation about this monstruos thing has already been earlier, but was deliberately obstructed, and the evidence is destroyed directly. About these things says Carla Del Ponte. - Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY, Dick Marty, and everyone else! Americans are destroying evidence to protect the Albanian leaders, due to political pragmatism!
But they failed to destroy all the evidence because the evidence is still exist! And everything will be proven if USA stops obstructs an investigation!
Have you really thought that one so serious institutions like the Council of Europe is can give the report with such serious allegations, and that there is no strong evidence for that?
Dick Marty is man which is investigating the scandal of Guantanamo prisoners too. He knows how to do his job! Don’t worry guys!

5)Fifth - No one can stop the truth! sooner or later, everything will be revealed! Or the world will finaly find out the same thing what thousands of Serbian victims and their families already knows!

Good bye!

Je¿ nerki cz³owieka

pre 13 godina

[link]
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded
(KOSO, 18 December 2010 16:31)

Thanks for the link - what worries me - what happened with the kidneys of the three arrested? Very "popular" movie, got 9203 views. Hope, the arrested are OK.

But why not tell the truth? The link is Abanian "answer" to an other video. That video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jNTNsGXZ0
(view count: 85005)

Looks, like 85005 people are interested in truth, 9203 in snake-propaganda.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

cooperation and how it happened...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/balkans-report-blairs-liberal-intervention

Top

pre 13 godina

"The TRUTH is in the side of the FREEDOM it is in the side of KOSOVA."
(ben, 19 December 2010 11:53)

And the truth is: The current and previous government of Kosovo was (and probably still is) connected to all sorts of criminal activities. This is known, and they will face justice, eventually. Only a metter of time...

man without prejudice

pre 13 godina

Listen to me people.
I don’t understand why some of you constantly defend that Albanian monsters, when you know that real truth is what is being said. I personally know some Albanians and I talk to them, and any of them admit that many bad things happened and are still happening in Kosovo. Albanians themselves are afraid of the main bosses in Kosovo and they are afraid for they own destiny! All Albanians know in what kind of criminal environment they live, and unfortunately they don’t mind, or they are afraid to say anything against Albanian bosses because they know how they could end up! It’s a very bad thing – bad thing for you Albanians, not for Serbs! You live in a mafia state, not Serbians! Whole Europe and America know that Kosovo is a center of crime in Europe. Everyone knows that Kosovo is a center of drug trafficking, organ trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all other things ... Al Qaeda also has a foothold in Kosovo ... And why it seems so unbelievable that these same criminals in Kosovo traded with organs of Serbian victims? That story is not taken for no reason! “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”!

Ask yourselves why only people from Kosovo can't travel around Europe without a visa!!!
Only when you become self-critical, you will progress!

Olli

pre 13 godina

Here's what is happening in the video you linked, according to an Albanian writer:

"You can see 3 Serbian spies trying to convince a Kosovar Albanian to admit that his organs were transplanted during the war. They offer him 60,000-70,000 Euros for saying that, reminding him that he could most probably get 300,000 if successful like other "witnesses". All this conversation is recorded while 3 spies are arrested by Kosovo Police, another collaborator awaiting to get arrested. They are believed to be sent from Serbia to convince people of this ridiculous LIE."

Now, let's take a breath and think for a moment.

So, here we a case of a Serbian agent offering money to an albanian (agent?) asking this to testify that his organ was forcefully removed.

Is this Serbian agent suggesting that the removed organ should be Albanian's brains? I'm pretty sure they agreed about this: "Let's say the removed organ was the brains because if you say that it was a kidney, they could find out that you've got both of them left, but who could tell the difference between an Albanian having his brains still with him or not having?

KOSO, can you tell me how this case developed? What was the outcome?

Robot Berta

pre 13 godina

Our wanna-be frustrated journalist who fills most of his rantings with childish name-calling is now resorting to profanity?
(Roger7, 18 December 2010 21:00)

I will call my frnds dalai lama and ntasa kndic and li baoxo and bill clinton, you know, last time I was dining with obama and he listened to what I say... oh well, such nice pple here, thnkyou B92 - so all they will tell you that you are a serbian ultra-nationalist from belarus. i rather be in saraj now in a cafe with my frnd zukorlic, he is very nice it's all blgrde fault that there is snow on sar planina now, shame on you all iranian nationalists from russia.

Ciao!

Robot berta
Fresco

Mr. Baloney

pre 13 godina

Roberto wrote over 20 lines presenting his ideas. Not a single line to answer the long outstanding question: what was that "baloney" comment regarding possible victims of this case.

Thank you Roberto in advance for the cooperation.

ben

pre 13 godina

(roberto, 18 December 2010 20:07)

Roberto your comments as always excellent.

Serbs are used to celebrate vicotry in the early start and then punctually lose in the end: wars, UN Trials of Serbian leadsrs for crimes in Kosova, ICJ.

This case HAS BEEN investigated by:

1. Hague Tribunal
2. Albanian authorities
3. EULEX

They all found NOTHING.

Now do you bealive that another investigation will find new evidence beside what the Dick already said: there is nothing new here the only new thing is that someone put this story in writing ????

We are much much stronger than your propaganda.


Another investigation??? so be it.

The CLEANEST war for FREEDOM of Kosova will not be dirtied by the Dick's report .

Serbs had great support from some European xsenofobic circles during 1999 when in front of the enitre world . imagine now that they are free from the presure of the evidence. Now they are in offensive BUT they WILL LOSE.

The TRUTH is in the side of the FREEDOM it is in the side of KOSOVA.

jb

pre 13 godina

money talks and the US should put up or shut up.
Does Iraq, or maybe Afganistan ring any common sense to the comments from the US about the snake. Until found guilty, what the f... did you do to Iraq?

Amer

pre 13 godina

Marty himself says that he has no new evidence, that he is basing his report on the findings of foreign intelligence agencies, which were not considered by their countries to be worth further investigation. These agencies included that of the Greeks, one of Serbia's strongest supporters. Even they did not consider the leads worth following?

Under the circumstances, Kouchner's response seems appropriate: he's sceptical, but says there should be a thorough investigation. Until there has been one, why would the US not continue to work with Thaci?

European!

pre 13 godina

1)First of all – this is not a Serbian report, but the Council of Europe report! This is NOT “Belgrade's soup”!

2)Second - evidence exists! Witnesses exist!
Do you really expect that someone might say who the witnesses are, and to they disappear like all the previous witnesses against Albanian criminals?

3)Third - Tadic said what he had to say so as to prevent failure of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina. But America doesn’t have to say that, America doesn’t have to worry about anything.
America doesn’t cooperate with some other leaders in world for a much smaller charges!
Slobodan Milosevic was " innocent until proven otherwise" too, but Americans didn’t cooperate with him!

4)Fourth - The investigation about this monstruos thing has already been earlier, but was deliberately obstructed, and the evidence is destroyed directly.
About these things says Carla Del Ponte. - Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY, Dick Marty, and everyone else! Americans were destroying evidence to protect the Albanian leaders, due to political pragmatism!
But they failed to destroy all the evidence because the evidence still exist! And everything will be proven if USA stops obstructs an investigation!
Have you really thought that one so serious institutions like the Council of Europe is can give the report with such serious allegations, and that there is no strong evidence for that?
Dick Marty is man which is investigating the scandal of Guantanamo prisoners too. He knows how to do his job! Don’t worry guys!

5) Fifth - No one can stop the truth! sooner or later, everything will be revealed! Or the world will finaly find out the same thing what thousands of Serbian victims and their families already knows!

Good bye!

Mr. Baloney

pre 13 godina

Roberto wrote over 20 lines presenting his ideas. Not a single line to answer the long outstanding question: what was that "baloney" comment regarding possible victims of this case.

Thank you Roberto in advance for the cooperation.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

what else should the US-officials say? =)

but, frankly said, that´s showing how desperately reduced the Americans are in regard to reliable partners among the K-albanian "regime" are.

very good. stand by a criminal, my american friends! that´s helping the US-american and greater-albanian cause of course! =)

Young European

pre 13 godina

come on...what did u expect? Suddenly, a Santa Claus comes up with a completeley political fake report and accuses one person for human organ trafficking without any proof or argument??!! You believe that USA and other western powers will suddenly be naive and eat Belgrade's bad cooking soup!! You can just dream on my dear friends, Kosovo independence was a long process that will be finalized when it will be a full member of European Union and you can do nothing to stop this, even if you buy some Dick Santa Marty..

roberto

pre 13 godina

-He repeated that the Washington administration was “fully supporting any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges”.-

So, this is what that means: rather than reacting to every 2-bit hack (marty, white witch) we will wait for an actual and REAL investigation into these truly horrifying charges. and then we will make our decision, not based on the usual agit-prop from the blgd regime and their ever loyal media. not to mention their ever loyal diaspora.

as for the "civilized world," yes, we are not supporting yr pals in belarus (that nice mr lukashenko); that nice mr putin (your great "post" stalinist savior); yr good pals in the stalinist/communist regime of north korea; that nice mr Ahmadinejad; that nice mr mladic that those not-so-nice mr's jeremic and tadic and co. are harboring...

have a nice day! my first day of winter vacation!

roberto
frisco

Pete

pre 13 godina

US Albanian relations are based on mutual interests. Well you can say that again pal! Attack Serbia a country that's never done you any harm, and in fact saved your wretched pilots during the Second World war only to see their descendants return to bomb you sixty years later, then steal her cherished province hand it over to a bunch of cut throats and build a vast military complex free of charge. Yes indeed you do have mutual interests. It's called international piracy!

johny

pre 13 godina

Serbs stop being bitter. Tadic will be the first one to shake his hand. If Serbs are willing to cooperate and sit and talk with him; what else do you expect from the rest of the world. If Serbia is unwilling to indict him what else do you expect from the rest of the world.
You claim you have solid proofs you charge him.
Your failure to charge him shows that you have nothing. Your failure to even take one single action shows that you have nothing. Keep bit..ching about phone lines meanwhile.

European

pre 13 godina

"Save us time please because we have more important work to do than read rubbish. Kosovo’s people can not travel yet without visas because Kosovo is not recognized by all EU members..."

(Endri, 19 December 2010 17:48)


-Aare you really sure that's the only reason? If you really think that is the only reason, then you aren't informed and you are too naive!
I think it's a funniest reason that I have ever heard.
And if this is the real reason, then why you can't travel to the USA (your biggest allies and friend) without a visa? USA is the first country which is recognize independent Kosovo! And Americans don't want to let you into their country without a visa!
Ask your self...

Mike

pre 13 godina

“I don’t think it’s going to change fundamentally U.S.-Kosovo relations. I mean, they’re based on our mutual interest, not on specific personalities,” Crowley said.

-- Like golly gee! This stuff seems real bad! But since I'm only a paid mouthpiece with not high enough clearance to really know what's going on, I say we just go on our daily business! Whew! This job's hard!

"So, this is what that means: rather than reacting to every 2-bit hack (marty, white witch) we will wait for an actual and REAL investigation into these truly horrifying charges. and then we will make our decision, not based on the usual agit-prop from the blgd regime and their ever loyal media. not to mention their ever loyal diaspora." (roberto)

-- Keep that in mind the next time you decide to be a 2-bit hack journalist and cry through your keyboard at the slightest rumor of another mass grave that holds remains of people other than Serbs. People like Del Ponte and Marty are heroes to you so long as they're hunting Mladic and putting pressure on Belgrade. The minute they have the insane idea of being objective and leveling long-suspected accuations against groups other than Serbs, they become "2-bit hacks." I'd say extract your head from your lower extremities, but I fear your condition is self-inflicted.

michael

pre 13 godina

Did we miss somthing here or is the US political blowhole contradicting itself with this obvious doubletalk. If memory serves, I do recall countless accusations against Serbs for any and all deeds committed in Bosnia and Kosovo which labeled and demonized a whole nation guilty well before proven innocent.

Didn't Joey Bidden say this regarding Serbia ,"we should have a Japanese-German style occupation of that country." Sounds like a conviction by a cop, judge, and jury all wrapped up into one loveable fuzzball.

Where was the trial of the Serbian nation? Guilty until proven innocent, guilty for being Serbian, guilty because we the USA say it is so. Does anoyone believe the State Department lies except for the fanatical KLA supporters?

Serbia is slowly winning this battle, and as time marches on more victories will emerge...patience.

KARAMUSTAFA

pre 13 godina

Olli, the person from Hague Tribunal who received box with evidence from UMNIK related to organ harvesting has initials PH (remember that link I have sent you few days ago). However, the whole evidence received from UMNIK has been destroyed by Hague Tribunal.

Would be nice to find out why the whole evidence has been destroyed and who decided not to continue with criminal investigation. Lack of evidence or something else?

European

pre 13 godina

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)
(Amer, 20 December 2010 18:09)



Why you people always do that? Why pull the words out of context?
Why you always quote only one piece of text that you want and pull it out of context of the story?
It was a sarcastic comment on yours assertion that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished by visa is that which all EU countries didn’t recognize a Kosovo independence. It has nothing to do with that what you write here now. Nobody in the EU didn’t mention in a single moment that is the problem, but something completely different!
Why you always do that?

Why you can’t talk normally with arguments? Why always blindly defend all that which is yours, even if you own know that there isn't a “clean job” in question? The scary thing is to do something so monstruos, but it’s worse to cover up that and pretend like it never happened! And not a single story doesn’t occur for no reason!


Why are you always argue, distorts the words out of context, playing with words and outwits? Does you console yourselves on that way, or trying to convince us in something?
It’s pointless!

There is a difference between Serbs and Albanians. The whole world knows about the term "Albanian mafia", but nowhere in the world there is no term "Serbian mafia". In Serbia exists many politicians who speak differently from the majority opinion, and live normally and freely in Serbia. Try to imagine how can be some potential Albanian Čedomir Jovanovic finished his career in Kosovo? In Serbia, one of the main theme today is whether gays should be given the right which they ask or not... is not an issue is the state prime minister a mafia boss like in Kosovo! Serbia is going slowly but steadily in the EU. And ask yourself where you're going with such leaders, and with that attitude! Serbia have a special court for war crimes, there are 44 Serbs (from the most important state functions) in the Hague Tribunal, the declaration by Serbian parliament about Srebrenica genocide, and much more ... Serbia is faced with own crimes and own criminals, but you defend your criminals at all costs! Or you really think that they haven’t done anything bad? NO-ONE IS SINLESS – Trust me! Because of that and many other things, Serbia is on a much higher level of civilization development and democracy than Kosovo. Ask yourself again what kind of people are you defending and who will have the most damage from it! Not Serbia - trust me!
This is not the way to build peace and a better future!
It’s imposible that one side get everything, and that other side lose everything! It doesen’t work like that! As soon you understand that, it will be better – first for you, then for all of us!

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

This should come to anyone as a surprise.

The United States needs to protect Thaci with all their might right now. Their credibility is on the line at the moment.

man without prejudice

pre 13 godina

@Endri
ok Endri, you are the smartest and most informed person on the planet! And you Albanians are sinless angels and didn’t do any bad thing! There is no crime in Kosovo, and your leaders are angels! Dick Marty, and Council of Europe are the villains and pro-Serbian fascists who hate the Albanians! And I have no idea about and nothing. How can I dared to “heaven on earth” called Kosovo call brood of crime!
After this your comments, and after you pull all my words out of context, doesn't surprise me anymore why all this is happening! Enjoy in the writing your studies and elaborates on this blog, just don’t forget that neither you, nor I will not make decisions about this issue, but some people who are much more powerful than all of us!!
And one more thing - the biggest mafia in the U.S. known to be gangsters, but they couldn’t be arrested because there was insufficient evidence against them! Mobsters makes every effort to destroy all evidence against them! Don't worry, if “they” wanted to see Hashim Thaci in prison, the evidence will be found without any problem!
And if you think that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished visa, is that which not all EU countries recognized Kosovo, then you have a big problem, and you are wery naive!
And if this is the only reason, then you will never be able to travel without a visa, because some countries will never recognize Kosovo, such as Cyprus, Slovakia...! ask yourself – is that a real reason!

I ended the discussion with you and everyone else.
Greetings, and I wish you all the best!

KU

pre 13 godina

Well of course, since Serbia itself will continue cooperation with Thaci, why shouldn't the US continue cooperation with Thaci?
See here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/in_focus.php?id=91&start=15&nav_id=71543

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=12&dd=18&nav_id=71604

EA

pre 13 godina

"The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend!"

Stunned democrat, Who told you the above? We have a say in Albania a mad man threw a stone in the river and thousands jumped in to find the stone....As a non stunned democrat you should know that unless proved guilty the the person is innocent. Now wandering how will you know when your mind is in Cuba, North Korea, China and Russia.....))

mirsadkrasniqi

pre 13 godina

Mr. Thaci does not represent the entire population in kosovo for actions he may/may not be guilty for.

However, it is elusive as to why the serbian community in b92 refuse to remember that serbia attempted ethnic cleansing throughout the balkans, one only needs to remember Srebrenica, let alone the 12,000 innocent civilians in Kosovo that were slaughtered, that included children and thousands of raped women during milosevic's reign in Serbia.

So you are hardly the ones that should point the fingers.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"USA is the first country which is recognize independent Kosovo! And Americans don't want to let you into their country without a visa!
Ask your self...
(European, 19 December 2010 21:17) "

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)

European

pre 13 godina

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)
(Amer, 20 December 2010 18:09)



Why you people always do that? Why pull the words out of context?
Why you always quote only one piece of text that you want and pull it out of context of the story?
It was a sarcastic comment on yours assertion that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished by visa is that which all EU countries didn’t recognize a Kosovo independence. It has nothing to do with that what you write here now. Nobody in the EU didn’t mention in a single moment that is the problem, but something completely different!
Why you always do that?

Why you can’t talk normally with arguments? Why always blindly defend all that which is yours, even if you own know that there isn't a “clean job” in question? The scary thing is to do something so monstruos, but it’s worse to cover up that and pretend like it never happened! And not a single story doesn’t occur for no reason!


Why are you always argue, distorts the words out of context, playing with words and outwits? Does you console yourselves on that way, or trying to convince us in something?
It’s pointless!

There is a difference between Serbs and Albanians. The whole world knows about the term "Albanian mafia", but nowhere in the world there is no term "Serbian mafia". In Serbia exists many politicians who speak differently from the majority opinion, and live normally and freely in Serbia. Try to imagine how can be some potential Albanian Čedomir Jovanovic finished his career in Kosovo? In Serbia, one of the main theme today is whether gays should be given the right which they ask or not... is not an issue is the state prime minister a mafia boss like in Kosovo! Serbia is going slowly but steadily in the EU. And ask yourself where you're going with such leaders, and with that attitude! Serbia have a special court for war crimes, there are 44 Serbs (from the most important state functions) in the Hague Tribunal, the declaration by Serbian parliament about Srebrenica genocide, and much more ... Serbia is faced with own crimes and own criminals, but you defend your criminals at all costs! Or you really think that they haven’t done anything bad? NO-ONE IS SINLESS – Trust me! Because of that and many other things, Serbia is on a much higher level of civilization development and democracy than Kosovo. Ask yourself again what kind of people are you defending and who will have the most damage from it! Not Serbia - trust me!
This is not the way to build peace and a better future!
It’s imposible that one side get everything, and that other side lose everything! It doesen’t work like that! As soon you understand that, it will be better – first for you, then for all of us!

EA

pre 13 godina

"USA is a disgrace of the civilized world!"
(stunned Democrat, 18 December 2010 14:08)

What civilised world are you referring to? Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia? I know where you are coming from.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-He repeated that the Washington administration was “fully supporting any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges”.-

So, this is what that means: rather than reacting to every 2-bit hack (marty, white witch) we will wait for an actual and REAL investigation into these truly horrifying charges. and then we will make our decision, not based on the usual agit-prop from the blgd regime and their ever loyal media. not to mention their ever loyal diaspora.

as for the "civilized world," yes, we are not supporting yr pals in belarus (that nice mr lukashenko); that nice mr putin (your great "post" stalinist savior); yr good pals in the stalinist/communist regime of north korea; that nice mr Ahmadinejad; that nice mr mladic that those not-so-nice mr's jeremic and tadic and co. are harboring...

have a nice day! my first day of winter vacation!

roberto
frisco

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Hey swiss,
just because you're ranting or yelling it doesn't mean your right. Since you're ignorant to the matter, or anything Kosovo-related, educate yourself.

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded

johny

pre 13 godina

Serbs stop being bitter. Tadic will be the first one to shake his hand. If Serbs are willing to cooperate and sit and talk with him; what else do you expect from the rest of the world. If Serbia is unwilling to indict him what else do you expect from the rest of the world.
You claim you have solid proofs you charge him.
Your failure to charge him shows that you have nothing. Your failure to even take one single action shows that you have nothing. Keep bit..ching about phone lines meanwhile.

stunned Democrat

pre 13 godina

@EA
"What civilised world are you referring to? Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia? I know where you are coming from."

-I'm from Switzerland my friend!!!

-whatever you speak, your actions say everything about you Americans. You collaborate with the famous "Democrat" Hashim Thaci - he's your man! The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend! And because of that I understand why you defend him!
I suspect that many customers of Serbian organs were Americans.
-I'm sure that Wikileaks have something to say about it! Just wait!

ben

pre 13 godina

(roberto, 18 December 2010 20:07)

Roberto your comments as always excellent.

Serbs are used to celebrate vicotry in the early start and then punctually lose in the end: wars, UN Trials of Serbian leadsrs for crimes in Kosova, ICJ.

This case HAS BEEN investigated by:

1. Hague Tribunal
2. Albanian authorities
3. EULEX

They all found NOTHING.

Now do you bealive that another investigation will find new evidence beside what the Dick already said: there is nothing new here the only new thing is that someone put this story in writing ????

We are much much stronger than your propaganda.


Another investigation??? so be it.

The CLEANEST war for FREEDOM of Kosova will not be dirtied by the Dick's report .

Serbs had great support from some European xsenofobic circles during 1999 when in front of the enitre world . imagine now that they are free from the presure of the evidence. Now they are in offensive BUT they WILL LOSE.

The TRUTH is in the side of the FREEDOM it is in the side of KOSOVA.

Top

pre 13 godina

"He repeated that the Washington administration was “fully supporting any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges”."

If the like to cooperate with Thaci, maybe the "Washington administration" should tell him to do the same: Supporting investigations instead of denying and hinder it wherever possible.

Young European

pre 13 godina

come on...what did u expect? Suddenly, a Santa Claus comes up with a completeley political fake report and accuses one person for human organ trafficking without any proof or argument??!! You believe that USA and other western powers will suddenly be naive and eat Belgrade's bad cooking soup!! You can just dream on my dear friends, Kosovo independence was a long process that will be finalized when it will be a full member of European Union and you can do nothing to stop this, even if you buy some Dick Santa Marty..

man without prejudice

pre 13 godina

Listen to me people.
I don’t understand why some of you constantly defend that Albanian monsters, when you know that real truth is what is being said. I personally know some Albanians and I talk to them, and any of them admit that many bad things happened and are still happening in Kosovo. Albanians themselves are afraid of the main bosses in Kosovo and they are afraid for they own destiny! All Albanians know in what kind of criminal environment they live, and unfortunately they don’t mind, or they are afraid to say anything against Albanian bosses because they know how they could end up! It’s a very bad thing – bad thing for you Albanians, not for Serbs! You live in a mafia state, not Serbians! Whole Europe and America know that Kosovo is a center of crime in Europe. Everyone knows that Kosovo is a center of drug trafficking, organ trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all other things ... Al Qaeda also has a foothold in Kosovo ... And why it seems so unbelievable that these same criminals in Kosovo traded with organs of Serbian victims? That story is not taken for no reason! “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”!

Ask yourselves why only people from Kosovo can't travel around Europe without a visa!!!
Only when you become self-critical, you will progress!

Amer

pre 13 godina

Marty himself says that he has no new evidence, that he is basing his report on the findings of foreign intelligence agencies, which were not considered by their countries to be worth further investigation. These agencies included that of the Greeks, one of Serbia's strongest supporters. Even they did not consider the leads worth following?

Under the circumstances, Kouchner's response seems appropriate: he's sceptical, but says there should be a thorough investigation. Until there has been one, why would the US not continue to work with Thaci?

Endri

pre 13 godina

“I don’t understand why some of you constantly defend that Albanian monsters, when you know that real truth is what is being said”

I see that your nick is covered with mud right from the first sentence. Albanian are monsters only because Dick Marty says so!!!!! Or only because this is the wishful thinking of the majority of Serbs on this blog!!!! In order to call someone monsters you must have obviously genuine evidences of crimes based on facts presented to the court. You thinking is comparable with the one of an poorly educated person who can make us a favor not to troll here.

“ I personally know some Albanians and I talk to them, and any of them admit that many bad things happened and are still happening in Kosovo. Albanians themselves are afraid of the main bosses in Kosovo and they are afraid for they own destiny! All Albanians know in what kind of criminal environment they live, and unfortunately they don’t mind, or they are afraid to say anything against Albanian bosses because they know how they could end up!”

I am one of them to admit the problems of Albania, Kosovo and all Balkan countries. All we have more or less the same problems concerning crimes or illegal activities. To say that such exist only among Albanian that is simply ridiculous. That means that you have no idea of what is going on around here and you comment is obviously based on “histories” told by others. The people who bow to the mafia bosses can be found around but not in Kosovo or Albania. Try to know some Albanians in order to understand what I mean.

“ It’s a very bad thing – bad thing for you Albanians, not for Serbs! You live in a mafia state, not Serbians! Whole Europe and America know that Kosovo is a center of crime in Europe. Everyone knows that Kosovo is a center of drug trafficking, organ trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all other things ... Al Qaeda also has a foothold in Kosovo ... And why it seems so unbelievable that these same criminals in Kosovo traded with organs of Serbian victims? That story is not taken for no reason! “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”!”

You say you are the man without prejudice but so far there can only be seen clear prejudices. “bad for us but good for Serbs, we live in mafia state but not Serbians. If you are a pseudo analyst can you tell us how did you come to such conclusions? Or u want to imitate Mr. Dick???? The most interesting story was that of Al Qaeda. Please do us a favor and tell us where is the headquarter of Al Qaeda in Kosovo!! You will be rewarded by Europe and USA since they haven’t found it so far. As for the smoke I can tell you that my car exhumes smoke but I haven’t seen any fire so far..Just for you curiosity.

“Ask yourselves why only people from Kosovo can't travel around Europe without a visa!!!
Only when you become self-critical, you will progress!”

Save us time please because we have more important work to do than read rubbish. Kosovo’s people can not travel yet without visas because Kosovo is not recognized by all EU members. It has nothing to do with your prejudices presented above so far. Such cheap lessons are really boring to be seen here.

JohnBoy

pre 13 godina

Since the usa has shielded war criminals in the past and continues today, this announcement is not surprising. Since the usa refuses to acknowledge the authority of the hague over them, but routinely sends suspects to stand trial there, this announcement is not surprising. What is different now is that due to several recent incidences including this ghoulish revelation, the usa is not trusted in most places in the world and will get very little cooperation in their future plans.

EA

pre 13 godina

"The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend!"

Stunned democrat, Who told you the above? We have a say in Albania a mad man threw a stone in the river and thousands jumped in to find the stone....As a non stunned democrat you should know that unless proved guilty the the person is innocent. Now wandering how will you know when your mind is in Cuba, North Korea, China and Russia.....))

European

pre 13 godina

"Save us time please because we have more important work to do than read rubbish. Kosovo’s people can not travel yet without visas because Kosovo is not recognized by all EU members..."

(Endri, 19 December 2010 17:48)


-Aare you really sure that's the only reason? If you really think that is the only reason, then you aren't informed and you are too naive!
I think it's a funniest reason that I have ever heard.
And if this is the real reason, then why you can't travel to the USA (your biggest allies and friend) without a visa? USA is the first country which is recognize independent Kosovo! And Americans don't want to let you into their country without a visa!
Ask your self...

stunned Democrat

pre 13 godina

@KOSO
A ok, you aren't from USA, you are from Kosovo! My mistake. Now I understand why you defending that monster. You are probably voted for him! And any movie from you tube will not change the truth about kosovo and America.
And I really don't want to talk anymore with people who approve such kind of monstrous crimes - even if his own people in order!
Good luck!

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

The U.S. will continue to cooperate with Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci despite the CoE report linking him to crimes, the U.S. Department of State has announced.

"To be read": we are happy to continue to cooperate with a criminal, because we are holding him by the balls. The worst he is, the better for us. When we want him to lift the left hand, we pull the left string, when we want him to open his mounth we pull the front string etc etc etc, so hopefully this investigation will drag on and on and on until we finalized our hiden agenda. If he doesn't obey anymore or if we don't need him anymore then we have different ways of making it happend...
Yes, indeed good friends...

Zoti

pre 13 godina

-I'm from Switzerland my friend!!!

-whatever you speak, your actions say everything about you Americans. You collaborate with the famous "Democrat" Hashim Thaci - he's your man! The only problem may be his hobby which is killing thousands of Serbian people and selling their organs... maybe a little bit heroin and weapons, but he is your ally and friend! And because of that I understand why you defend him!
I suspect that many customers of Serbian organs were Americans.
-I'm sure that Wikileaks have something to say about it! Just wait!
(stunned Democrat, 18 December 2010)

Since you seem to be very ignorant of this matter I'd like to tell you that the customers were German, Canadian, and Israelis by and large. The doctor performing the transplants was a Turk and the donors were Turks, Kurds, Moldovans, and other former Soviet republic citizens.

It's best to be well-informed if you wanna opine on any topic.

It's also funny how you take the moral high ground as a Swiss when your country hid Nazi gold and stolen properties from the Jews for years and continues to this day to do so and it's the only country that has secrecy banking laws being a magnet for every dictator and corrupt politicians in the world.

They'll be investigating Thaci's bank accounts now: wanna guess which country is the prime suspect?

Did it ever occur to you that Switzerland might be perpetrating evil in this world by providing refuge to the monsters' finances. How about you petition Dick Marty to investigate Swiss banks and their wrongdoings for the past 300 years?

No you guys get a free pass, you're Swiss after all.

Roger7

pre 13 godina

roberto said in a recent post... "i wish, send me a fu---ing ticket. is it 'sposed to be a put-down if i were in pristina w/ my "albanian brothers-and sisters"?"

Our wanna-be frustrated journalist who fills most of his rantings with childish name-calling is now resorting to profanity?

You can pretend to be anything you want to be on the internet...even an investigative journalist.

Steve JP

pre 13 godina

Why is the USA so buddy buddy with Thaci? Is there some type of sinister friendship between the two of them? You know the old saying: "Birds of a feather flock together".

mirsadkrasniqi

pre 13 godina

Mr. Thaci does not represent the entire population in kosovo for actions he may/may not be guilty for.

However, it is elusive as to why the serbian community in b92 refuse to remember that serbia attempted ethnic cleansing throughout the balkans, one only needs to remember Srebrenica, let alone the 12,000 innocent civilians in Kosovo that were slaughtered, that included children and thousands of raped women during milosevic's reign in Serbia.

So you are hardly the ones that should point the fingers.

KU

pre 13 godina

Well of course, since Serbia itself will continue cooperation with Thaci, why shouldn't the US continue cooperation with Thaci?
See here:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/in_focus.php?id=91&start=15&nav_id=71543

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=12&dd=18&nav_id=71604

Olli

pre 13 godina

Here's what is happening in the video you linked, according to an Albanian writer:

"You can see 3 Serbian spies trying to convince a Kosovar Albanian to admit that his organs were transplanted during the war. They offer him 60,000-70,000 Euros for saying that, reminding him that he could most probably get 300,000 if successful like other "witnesses". All this conversation is recorded while 3 spies are arrested by Kosovo Police, another collaborator awaiting to get arrested. They are believed to be sent from Serbia to convince people of this ridiculous LIE."

Now, let's take a breath and think for a moment.

So, here we a case of a Serbian agent offering money to an albanian (agent?) asking this to testify that his organ was forcefully removed.

Is this Serbian agent suggesting that the removed organ should be Albanian's brains? I'm pretty sure they agreed about this: "Let's say the removed organ was the brains because if you say that it was a kidney, they could find out that you've got both of them left, but who could tell the difference between an Albanian having his brains still with him or not having?

KOSO, can you tell me how this case developed? What was the outcome?

Pete

pre 13 godina

US Albanian relations are based on mutual interests. Well you can say that again pal! Attack Serbia a country that's never done you any harm, and in fact saved your wretched pilots during the Second World war only to see their descendants return to bomb you sixty years later, then steal her cherished province hand it over to a bunch of cut throats and build a vast military complex free of charge. Yes indeed you do have mutual interests. It's called international piracy!

man without prejudice

pre 13 godina

@Endri
ok Endri, you are the smartest and most informed person on the planet! And you Albanians are sinless angels and didn’t do any bad thing! There is no crime in Kosovo, and your leaders are angels! Dick Marty, and Council of Europe are the villains and pro-Serbian fascists who hate the Albanians! And I have no idea about and nothing. How can I dared to “heaven on earth” called Kosovo call brood of crime!
After this your comments, and after you pull all my words out of context, doesn't surprise me anymore why all this is happening! Enjoy in the writing your studies and elaborates on this blog, just don’t forget that neither you, nor I will not make decisions about this issue, but some people who are much more powerful than all of us!!
And one more thing - the biggest mafia in the U.S. known to be gangsters, but they couldn’t be arrested because there was insufficient evidence against them! Mobsters makes every effort to destroy all evidence against them! Don't worry, if “they” wanted to see Hashim Thaci in prison, the evidence will be found without any problem!
And if you think that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished visa, is that which not all EU countries recognized Kosovo, then you have a big problem, and you are wery naive!
And if this is the only reason, then you will never be able to travel without a visa, because some countries will never recognize Kosovo, such as Cyprus, Slovakia...! ask yourself – is that a real reason!

I ended the discussion with you and everyone else.
Greetings, and I wish you all the best!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

what else should the US-officials say? =)

but, frankly said, that´s showing how desperately reduced the Americans are in regard to reliable partners among the K-albanian "regime" are.

very good. stand by a criminal, my american friends! that´s helping the US-american and greater-albanian cause of course! =)

Je¿ nerki cz³owieka

pre 13 godina

[link]
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded
(KOSO, 18 December 2010 16:31)

Thanks for the link - what worries me - what happened with the kidneys of the three arrested? Very "popular" movie, got 9203 views. Hope, the arrested are OK.

But why not tell the truth? The link is Abanian "answer" to an other video. That video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jNTNsGXZ0
(view count: 85005)

Looks, like 85005 people are interested in truth, 9203 in snake-propaganda.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

"..educate yourself."

[link]
/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0&feature=player_embedded
(KOSO, 18 December 2010 16:31)

----------------

With a YouTube video??

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

have a nice day! my first day of winter vacation!

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 18 December 2010 20:07)

hopefully your brain will not freeze we might miss your multi talents and multi facets comments...
Enjoy

Roberto's fans' club

jb

pre 13 godina

money talks and the US should put up or shut up.
Does Iraq, or maybe Afganistan ring any common sense to the comments from the US about the snake. Until found guilty, what the f... did you do to Iraq?

Top

pre 13 godina

"The TRUTH is in the side of the FREEDOM it is in the side of KOSOVA."
(ben, 19 December 2010 11:53)

And the truth is: The current and previous government of Kosovo was (and probably still is) connected to all sorts of criminal activities. This is known, and they will face justice, eventually. Only a metter of time...

Robot Berta

pre 13 godina

Our wanna-be frustrated journalist who fills most of his rantings with childish name-calling is now resorting to profanity?
(Roger7, 18 December 2010 21:00)

I will call my frnds dalai lama and ntasa kndic and li baoxo and bill clinton, you know, last time I was dining with obama and he listened to what I say... oh well, such nice pple here, thnkyou B92 - so all they will tell you that you are a serbian ultra-nationalist from belarus. i rather be in saraj now in a cafe with my frnd zukorlic, he is very nice it's all blgrde fault that there is snow on sar planina now, shame on you all iranian nationalists from russia.

Ciao!

Robot berta
Fresco

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

cooperation and how it happened...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/balkans-report-blairs-liberal-intervention

Mike

pre 13 godina

“I don’t think it’s going to change fundamentally U.S.-Kosovo relations. I mean, they’re based on our mutual interest, not on specific personalities,” Crowley said.

-- Like golly gee! This stuff seems real bad! But since I'm only a paid mouthpiece with not high enough clearance to really know what's going on, I say we just go on our daily business! Whew! This job's hard!

"So, this is what that means: rather than reacting to every 2-bit hack (marty, white witch) we will wait for an actual and REAL investigation into these truly horrifying charges. and then we will make our decision, not based on the usual agit-prop from the blgd regime and their ever loyal media. not to mention their ever loyal diaspora." (roberto)

-- Keep that in mind the next time you decide to be a 2-bit hack journalist and cry through your keyboard at the slightest rumor of another mass grave that holds remains of people other than Serbs. People like Del Ponte and Marty are heroes to you so long as they're hunting Mladic and putting pressure on Belgrade. The minute they have the insane idea of being objective and leveling long-suspected accuations against groups other than Serbs, they become "2-bit hacks." I'd say extract your head from your lower extremities, but I fear your condition is self-inflicted.

Mr. Baloney

pre 13 godina

Roberto wrote over 20 lines presenting his ideas. Not a single line to answer the long outstanding question: what was that "baloney" comment regarding possible victims of this case.

Thank you Roberto in advance for the cooperation.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"USA is the first country which is recognize independent Kosovo! And Americans don't want to let you into their country without a visa!
Ask your self...
(European, 19 December 2010 21:17) "

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)

European!

pre 13 godina

1)First of all – this is not a Serbian report, but the Council of Europe report! This is NOT “Belgrade's soup”!

2)Second - evidence exists! Witnesses exist!
Do you really expect that someone might say who the witnesses are, and to they disappear like all the previous witnesses against Albanian criminals?

3)Third - Tadic said what he had to say so as to prevent failure of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina. But America doesn’t have to say that, America doesn’t have to worry about anything.
America doesn’t cooperate with some other leaders in world for a much smaller charges!
Slobodan Milosevic was " innocent until proven otherwise" too, but Americans didn’t cooperate with him!

4)Fourth - The investigation about this monstruos thing has already been earlier, but was deliberately obstructed, and the evidence is destroyed directly.
About these things says Carla Del Ponte. - Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY, Dick Marty, and everyone else! Americans were destroying evidence to protect the Albanian leaders, due to political pragmatism!
But they failed to destroy all the evidence because the evidence still exist! And everything will be proven if USA stops obstructs an investigation!
Have you really thought that one so serious institutions like the Council of Europe is can give the report with such serious allegations, and that there is no strong evidence for that?
Dick Marty is man which is investigating the scandal of Guantanamo prisoners too. He knows how to do his job! Don’t worry guys!

5) Fifth - No one can stop the truth! sooner or later, everything will be revealed! Or the world will finaly find out the same thing what thousands of Serbian victims and their families already knows!

Good bye!

Mr. Baloney

pre 13 godina

Roberto wrote over 20 lines presenting his ideas. Not a single line to answer the long outstanding question: what was that "baloney" comment regarding possible victims of this case.

Thank you Roberto in advance for the cooperation.

European

pre 13 godina

1) First of all – this is not a Serbian report, but the Council of Europe report! This is NOT “Belgrade's soup”!

2)Second - evidence exists! Witnesses exist!
Do you really expect that someone might say who the witnesses are, and that they disappear like all the previous witnesses against Albanian criminals?

3)Third - Tadic said what he had to say so as to prevent failure of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina. He must to speak with him, because he is Albanian leader! But America doesn’t have to say that, America doesn’t have to worry about nothing.
America doesn’t cooperate with some other leaders in world for a much smaller charges! Slobodan Milosevic was " innocent until proven otherwise" too, but Americans didn’t cooperate with him!

4) Fourth - The investigation about this monstruos thing has already been earlier, but was deliberately obstructed, and the evidence is destroyed directly. About these things says Carla Del Ponte. - Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY, Dick Marty, and everyone else! Americans are destroying evidence to protect the Albanian leaders, due to political pragmatism!
But they failed to destroy all the evidence because the evidence is still exist! And everything will be proven if USA stops obstructs an investigation!
Have you really thought that one so serious institutions like the Council of Europe is can give the report with such serious allegations, and that there is no strong evidence for that?
Dick Marty is man which is investigating the scandal of Guantanamo prisoners too. He knows how to do his job! Don’t worry guys!

5)Fifth - No one can stop the truth! sooner or later, everything will be revealed! Or the world will finaly find out the same thing what thousands of Serbian victims and their families already knows!

Good bye!

michael

pre 13 godina

Did we miss somthing here or is the US political blowhole contradicting itself with this obvious doubletalk. If memory serves, I do recall countless accusations against Serbs for any and all deeds committed in Bosnia and Kosovo which labeled and demonized a whole nation guilty well before proven innocent.

Didn't Joey Bidden say this regarding Serbia ,"we should have a Japanese-German style occupation of that country." Sounds like a conviction by a cop, judge, and jury all wrapped up into one loveable fuzzball.

Where was the trial of the Serbian nation? Guilty until proven innocent, guilty for being Serbian, guilty because we the USA say it is so. Does anoyone believe the State Department lies except for the fanatical KLA supporters?

Serbia is slowly winning this battle, and as time marches on more victories will emerge...patience.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

This should come to anyone as a surprise.

The United States needs to protect Thaci with all their might right now. Their credibility is on the line at the moment.

KARAMUSTAFA

pre 13 godina

Olli, the person from Hague Tribunal who received box with evidence from UMNIK related to organ harvesting has initials PH (remember that link I have sent you few days ago). However, the whole evidence received from UMNIK has been destroyed by Hague Tribunal.

Would be nice to find out why the whole evidence has been destroyed and who decided not to continue with criminal investigation. Lack of evidence or something else?

European

pre 13 godina

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)
(Amer, 20 December 2010 18:09)



Why you people always do that? Why pull the words out of context?
Why you always quote only one piece of text that you want and pull it out of context of the story?
It was a sarcastic comment on yours assertion that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished by visa is that which all EU countries didn’t recognize a Kosovo independence. It has nothing to do with that what you write here now. Nobody in the EU didn’t mention in a single moment that is the problem, but something completely different!
Why you always do that?

Why you can’t talk normally with arguments? Why always blindly defend all that which is yours, even if you own know that there isn't a “clean job” in question? The scary thing is to do something so monstruos, but it’s worse to cover up that and pretend like it never happened! And not a single story doesn’t occur for no reason!


Why are you always argue, distorts the words out of context, playing with words and outwits? Does you console yourselves on that way, or trying to convince us in something?
It’s pointless!

There is a difference between Serbs and Albanians. The whole world knows about the term "Albanian mafia", but nowhere in the world there is no term "Serbian mafia". In Serbia exists many politicians who speak differently from the majority opinion, and live normally and freely in Serbia. Try to imagine how can be some potential Albanian Čedomir Jovanovic finished his career in Kosovo? In Serbia, one of the main theme today is whether gays should be given the right which they ask or not... is not an issue is the state prime minister a mafia boss like in Kosovo! Serbia is going slowly but steadily in the EU. And ask yourself where you're going with such leaders, and with that attitude! Serbia have a special court for war crimes, there are 44 Serbs (from the most important state functions) in the Hague Tribunal, the declaration by Serbian parliament about Srebrenica genocide, and much more ... Serbia is faced with own crimes and own criminals, but you defend your criminals at all costs! Or you really think that they haven’t done anything bad? NO-ONE IS SINLESS – Trust me! Because of that and many other things, Serbia is on a much higher level of civilization development and democracy than Kosovo. Ask yourself again what kind of people are you defending and who will have the most damage from it! Not Serbia - trust me!
This is not the way to build peace and a better future!
It’s imposible that one side get everything, and that other side lose everything! It doesen’t work like that! As soon you understand that, it will be better – first for you, then for all of us!

European

pre 13 godina

And who can travel to the US without a visa? The Poles are (justifiably) bitter that they haven't been approved yet for visa-free travel, Serbians are hoping simply to have the length of the visa increased from 2 to 5 years ... Since 9/11, the US has gone security-crazy, no one wants to be the one who approves a change that might, just might, result in a blown-up airliner or a terrorist act on American soil. So it looks like everybody - including Kosovars and Serbs - is going to have to wait for visas to the US to be dropped. (They are trying to make the application shorter and simpler, at least.)
(Amer, 20 December 2010 18:09)



Why you people always do that? Why pull the words out of context?
Why you always quote only one piece of text that you want and pull it out of context of the story?
It was a sarcastic comment on yours assertion that the only reason why Kosovo had not been abolished by visa is that which all EU countries didn’t recognize a Kosovo independence. It has nothing to do with that what you write here now. Nobody in the EU didn’t mention in a single moment that is the problem, but something completely different!
Why you always do that?

Why you can’t talk normally with arguments? Why always blindly defend all that which is yours, even if you own know that there isn't a “clean job” in question? The scary thing is to do something so monstruos, but it’s worse to cover up that and pretend like it never happened! And not a single story doesn’t occur for no reason!


Why are you always argue, distorts the words out of context, playing with words and outwits? Does you console yourselves on that way, or trying to convince us in something?
It’s pointless!

There is a difference between Serbs and Albanians. The whole world knows about the term "Albanian mafia", but nowhere in the world there is no term "Serbian mafia". In Serbia exists many politicians who speak differently from the majority opinion, and live normally and freely in Serbia. Try to imagine how can be some potential Albanian Čedomir Jovanovic finished his career in Kosovo? In Serbia, one of the main theme today is whether gays should be given the right which they ask or not... is not an issue is the state prime minister a mafia boss like in Kosovo! Serbia is going slowly but steadily in the EU. And ask yourself where you're going with such leaders, and with that attitude! Serbia have a special court for war crimes, there are 44 Serbs (from the most important state functions) in the Hague Tribunal, the declaration by Serbian parliament about Srebrenica genocide, and much more ... Serbia is faced with own crimes and own criminals, but you defend your criminals at all costs! Or you really think that they haven’t done anything bad? NO-ONE IS SINLESS – Trust me! Because of that and many other things, Serbia is on a much higher level of civilization development and democracy than Kosovo. Ask yourself again what kind of people are you defending and who will have the most damage from it! Not Serbia - trust me!
This is not the way to build peace and a better future!
It’s imposible that one side get everything, and that other side lose everything! It doesen’t work like that! As soon you understand that, it will be better – first for you, then for all of us!