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Friday, 17.12.2010.

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FM: Organ trafficking case test for world

Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić said on Thursday that the accusations CoE Rapporteur Dick Marty must be thoroughly investigated.

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Zoti

pre 13 godina

Endri, building your self-confidence on an untruth will not take you neither your people anywhere.
(Olli, 19 December 2010)

How's that different from Serbia "building it s confidence" on a military some 600 years in Kosovo Polje? Look where it got you.

Olli

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote: "I think that you have misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. The idea behind is that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation which resulted in loosing of serbian power e.g Kosovo."

I misunderstood nothing. You claim that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation.

Whether it was liberation or something else the fact remains that the main role was played by NATO. But guessing from your writing, the story offered in Kosovo Albanian schools is different kind.

Endri, building your self-confidence on an untruth will not take you neither your people anywhere.

Je¿ administracyjny prowincji Bolonia

pre 13 godina

Roberto, please explain the "baloney" you mentioned few times regarding the yellow house and it's relation to mortadella.

Not sure, it wasn't an ugly, racist and bigot comment of yours than but I am sure, it won't be forgotten.

Thank you for your explanation in advance.

Endri

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote:

"You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation."

Is this irrational claim a national saga in today's Kosovo?"

I think that you have misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. The idea behind is that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation which resulted in loosing of serbian power e.g Kosovo. Therefore many serbs will not forget that fact so easy. It has nothing to do with national saga or whatever you think in such sense.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-What will you do when they abandon you? You MUST face your superiors once again.

And yes K.albos.. we Serbs, are your superiors.--

Normally if you read this kind of trash you just laugh: oh, those wacko nationalists... thank god there are so few such extremists!

But no, i think such "wacko" opinions are quite widely held, esp.ly among their diaspora, but also within serbia itself. so many years of propaganda and "education"; so much brainwashing...

i can imagine what my albanian colleagues are thinking: same old, same old. right? but what about those on the other side -- the extremists, the so-called moderates, their, um, "nice" global allies. do they just nod? chuckle? remain silent?

sometimes the racism is so pervasive people just stop seeing it, they just take is as a fact of life, like how here in the US (oops, i'm still not in pristina :)) it was once assumed by many (not all!) that whites were superior to blacks.

so whether there is even such a thing as "race" (I personally find it a bizarre concept), there is surely rac-ism, and no end to it at our dear, beloved website...

hvala mnoga, b92.

roberto
frisco

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

"There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania."
(PRN)
-
UN or Albania? Are we now comparing apples with oranges?

I am pleasead to finally see that you have come to some degree of sense. Kosovo cannot sustain itself; So you think either the UN (lol), or Albania (bigger - LOL) will babysit/provide/fund.

Olli

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote:

"You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation."

Is this irrational claim a national saga in today's Kosovo?

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.
(PRN)
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Apparently its been proven now. The UN/EU/US and NATO just need some time now to put all things together before the big guns come out. Beaurocrats from all over are probably now all scrambling to lose any connection with Thaci.

This is so apparent right now; Kosovo never had any integrity to stand on, Kosovo cannot sustain itself, EU doesnt want to deal with people coming from there and Kosovo is Serbia, and will be under Belgrade's control in the next coming months. Kosovo has nowhere else to go, the turth has finally come clear. It's time to accept, the first step in rehabilitation.

Endri

pre 13 godina

“It's simply amazing that the albanian TROLLS continue to defend not only thaci, but the actions committed against humans in order to remove their organs.”

Could you please give us only a single line where the Albanians defend any kind of crime as you say???? Don’t you think that you are the only troll here who interprets the comments according to your wishes? Such cheap shots make you Serbs ridiculous in the world’s eyes. I am one of them who deny such baseless report sold to the opinion recently which is different from denying a crime whose act is proved through evidences. So far Thaci is the same who was 3 days ago elected democratically from the majority of Kosovo people.

“May I be clear, I do not blame all albanians, but I do blame and accuse the KLA, it's terorists members, and all those who support their actions.”

Let me mention to you a simply truth. You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation. Beside KLA commander Thaci was one of them to be remembered as the one who signed the Kosovo independence so that you have who very important reason to attack him through Dick Marty styles. If he was such as you describe he should have been behind bars years ago like other war criminals.

“This story won't go away and the facts will test the resolve of most albanians to face the facts that your people and society waged war for profit, for drugs, for ethnic cleansing..and now for organs. After 10 years now of death and destruction of Serbian culture, this calls for punishment, this calls for retribution, this calls for justice, this calls for civilized people of all nations, albanians included, to step up and condemn this barbarism. This calls for Kouchner to be thrown in a Serbian jail as he was obviously involved by his pathetic attempt to cover this crime up on behalf of his french nation...yes the french...cowards!”

It is very obvious that the majority of comments on this blog is made up of emotional results and not reasonable one. Man, to call the French people cowards this shows a considerable lack of culture. I have no more words to say I am simply surprised.

Kujto

pre 13 godina

"It’s more like the Albanians that were doing this thought that they could come back and take more to sell thinking no one would notice."

Yeah, kidneys are like watches. No need for blood match, to preserve it, transplant it within hours, store and extract in sterile conditions etc etc. You can keep them at home and walk around town asking if anyone wants a kidney. I saw one at the mall, kidney and liver from 2006 for sale :)

sj

pre 13 godina

(Kujto, 17 December 2010 19:06)
You can remove organs in a barn, chicken coop or out in the open field provided the area around you and the body is sterile. This is very easy to do; what do you think happens in combat situations such as in Afghanistan where doctors have to operate on site in an emergency? Don’t tell me they carry on their back an entire operating theater.
“…took a kidney, sewd it up, put them in a dirty barn in the middle of a village and then went days later to take other organs. Please, are people that dumb to believe it”
It’s more like the Albanians that were doing this thought that they could come back and take more to sell thinking no one would notice. You do know that even amongst the Albanians there are stupid people?

(johny, 17 December 2010 19:04)
You see the US is not convinced so it and its friends, the UK and France would vote the proposal down. That’s the reason why Serbia is not saying anything, but letting others who are more powerful to do all the talking. It’s no coincidence that this report has come out so soon after Wiki Leaks has released all those cables.
The Albanian President is making these statements knowing that there will be no investigation or if there is one then the US will stack it with their people and they will find nothing.

johny

pre 13 godina

“I see this as a great moral test for the international community. What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined, and this issue must not be swept under the rug,” Jeremić said after his meeting with Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci.

-- Still waiting for Serbia and you to call an urgent UN meeting when you formally request an internal investigation. This is day 3 and Serbia, including Jeremic is awfully passive and inactive. Why? Albania's president today is calling for such an investigation. Why isn't Serbia taking the official steps? What is the reason behind this passivity and silence?

Kujto

pre 13 godina

Memo to you all :)
Everyone knows that Thaci (like most Balkan pols) is corrupt to the core and has stolen $$$ and votes, along with his pals. Vetevendosje supporters were arrested today for writing 'Thief' in his campaign posters, so corruption allegations are not new.

However, the 'organ' this a hit piece and everyone knows, doctors know it best. First, to transplant or to take them you need STERILE conditions with a team of dozen doctors and nurses (as per a Serbian doc on another newspaper that starts with N), not a barn on the crumbling house like Del Ponte said and you don't 'shoot in the head' to take his organ to transports it over the mountains, wait at an airport, pass it through customs, take another plane, pass through customs there and not have any proof. One tiny thing and the organ is useless. Del Ponte even said that they took a kidney, sewd it up, put them in a dirty barn in the middle of a village and then went days later to take other organs. Please, are people that dumb to believe it?

Serbia says that 500 of these things happened and there is ZERO evidence, ZERO. So think.

blue and gold

pre 13 godina

How about the still missing ~1500 k.albanians Mr. Jeremic which are probably still buried in some mass graves in Serbia; that’s a test for you and your country which claims to be so democratic….the hypocrisy!

Mark

pre 13 godina

“I see this as a great moral test for the international community. What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined, and this issue must not be swept under the rug,” Jeremić said

There are 2 thousand albanians missing since the war.When Serbia investigates and returns the bodies of at least 1500 of them then you can ask for investigation on your 500 missing.

michael

pre 13 godina

It's simply amazing that the albanian TROLLS continue to defend not only thaci, but the actions committed against humans in order to remove their organs. It's not a baseless charge, and it's not a fuel smuggling across a border during sanctions. This is an action in the hundreds, perhaps thousands, where innocent people were taken, MURDERED, in order to harvest organs for monetary gain. It's incredible, it's shocking, it's beyond comprehension that this horror was committed AFTER the bombing of Serbs by NATO. One cannot comprehend the helplessness and fear these individuals must have endured during their captivity, knowing their murder was to eventually take place in order to take their internal organs. This is beyond war, this is simply an extension of NAZI Germany plain and simple in the 21st century.

For years now, Serbs have stood firm against this horror committed against their people by albanian KLA terrorist. May I be clear, I do not blame all albanians, but I do blame and accuse the KLA, it's terorists members, and all those who support their actions. Most Serbs condemn Milosovic and his actions, I'd be the first to propose a firing squad for our criminal boss.

This story won't go away and the facts will test the resolve of most albanians to face the facts that your people and society waged war for profit, for drugs, for ethnic cleansing..and now for organs. After 10 years now of death and destruction of Serbian culture, this calls for punishment, this calls for retribution, this calls for justice, this calls for civilized people of all nations, albanians included, to step up and condemn this barbarism. This calls for Kouchner to be thrown in a Serbian jail as he was obviously involved by his pathetic attempt to cover this crime up on behalf of his french nation...yes the french...cowards!

This crime cannot go unpunished and simply washed away. If you know anything about Serbs, our victims will be glorified and remembered as heros of our nation..songs will be written, prayers will be spoken, the war obviously is not over.

Nikola

pre 13 godina

America didn't even try and cover this up. And if they did, only to save their own asses. If the Albanians were as important as they thought they were, this would not have been revealed.

The only way you can run apart of our country is by Western help and you know it. Tirana can't help you do it, the Islamic world wont help you do it. It is only the West.

What will you do when they abandon you? You MUST face your superiors once again.

And yes K.albos.. we Serbs, are your superiors.


Nevermind this talk about Belgrade POSSIBLY annexing Northern Kosovo. The entire province is ours and not yours.

Belgrade must grow a pair first though.



Nema Predaje

Top

pre 13 godina

"There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania."
(PRN, 17 December 2010 15:54)

"Century" might be the correct word to be used, not "year" ;-)

laki bani

pre 13 godina

I agree that Prime Minister Thaqi has in incredible manner been stealing his own voters and people, but I am 100 % aware that the rumors about organizing, kidnapping Serbs than transporting them to Albania for removing organs are a pure organized hunt by the original organs traders, that is Serbian propaganda who does not hesitate to unfold the wounds that had been committed by their selves in most brutal an bloody manner against the others during the bloody war period in Balkans.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

seems like kiddo´s like PRN still don´t get it straight.

if something has gone so far, in regard to accusations and suspicion, there seems to be something to it.

and this should even be clear for you, my dear k-albanian friend.

ignorance is a bad advisor...


this is something very serious, for the k-albanians even more than for the Serbs.

because, it let´s the greater albanian project look like built on most bestial atrocities against humanity and values that are shared by all poeple over the globe.

and the most interesting thing is: this came to light without any US-american effforts to cover it up.

even if it is still too early for a change of US-foreign policy in regard to "the Balkans", it´s getting worse for you and your greater albanian illusion.

and that is good, of course.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"NEVER"

You will loose everything in coming months or a year.

EVERYTHING!
(ZMAJ, 17 December 2010 14:26)

Oh my dear,

There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania. The remaining regions such as Presevo valley is not far either.

You seem to be too young to understand politics, lies and propaganda...

One day you will get to learn.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.
(PRN, 17 December 2010 11:05)

"NEVER"

You will loose everything in coming months or a year.

EVERYTHING!

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

ej Vuk, I got some news for you, as follows:"Why don't you arrange with Dick Marty to arrest Kosova PM Thaci next week, since Thaci is going to Hague to visit Rambo. This is your last shot on Thaci.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

Jeremić underlined that this would represent a "great moral test for the international community". That will be a easy test just do not do as Serbs have done and are still at it in Bosnia. Then you will pass it with flying colours it is that simple

PRN

pre 13 godina

"FM: Organ trafficking case test for world"

Thaci's is accussed but there are NO Facts... Even Marty admits this.

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.

EA

pre 13 godina

"What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined”
Jeremić said.

The accusations are very grave indeed. I am very convinced in Thaci innocence. I have said in the past that it might be have never ruled out that elements of KLA might have acted irresponsible. What we have in Dick Marty report only hate towards Albanians, general political anti Albanian statements and no strong evidence to prove its accusations. I do no think Dick Marty will get away with this very easy. Either Thaci be sent to prison or Dick Marty be ruined financially, sent to prison for slander or being checked mentally. The last one would be the easiest option for him.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

for once i agree with Jeremic!!! What is the world coming to?!!

There should be an investigation into this - and if no concrete evidence is found - Marty and Del Polet should be sued.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.
(PRN, 17 December 2010 11:05)

"NEVER"

You will loose everything in coming months or a year.

EVERYTHING!

PRN

pre 13 godina

"FM: Organ trafficking case test for world"

Thaci's is accussed but there are NO Facts... Even Marty admits this.

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

ej Vuk, I got some news for you, as follows:"Why don't you arrange with Dick Marty to arrest Kosova PM Thaci next week, since Thaci is going to Hague to visit Rambo. This is your last shot on Thaci.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

for once i agree with Jeremic!!! What is the world coming to?!!

There should be an investigation into this - and if no concrete evidence is found - Marty and Del Polet should be sued.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

seems like kiddo´s like PRN still don´t get it straight.

if something has gone so far, in regard to accusations and suspicion, there seems to be something to it.

and this should even be clear for you, my dear k-albanian friend.

ignorance is a bad advisor...


this is something very serious, for the k-albanians even more than for the Serbs.

because, it let´s the greater albanian project look like built on most bestial atrocities against humanity and values that are shared by all poeple over the globe.

and the most interesting thing is: this came to light without any US-american effforts to cover it up.

even if it is still too early for a change of US-foreign policy in regard to "the Balkans", it´s getting worse for you and your greater albanian illusion.

and that is good, of course.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

Jeremić underlined that this would represent a "great moral test for the international community". That will be a easy test just do not do as Serbs have done and are still at it in Bosnia. Then you will pass it with flying colours it is that simple

Endri

pre 13 godina

“It's simply amazing that the albanian TROLLS continue to defend not only thaci, but the actions committed against humans in order to remove their organs.”

Could you please give us only a single line where the Albanians defend any kind of crime as you say???? Don’t you think that you are the only troll here who interprets the comments according to your wishes? Such cheap shots make you Serbs ridiculous in the world’s eyes. I am one of them who deny such baseless report sold to the opinion recently which is different from denying a crime whose act is proved through evidences. So far Thaci is the same who was 3 days ago elected democratically from the majority of Kosovo people.

“May I be clear, I do not blame all albanians, but I do blame and accuse the KLA, it's terorists members, and all those who support their actions.”

Let me mention to you a simply truth. You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation. Beside KLA commander Thaci was one of them to be remembered as the one who signed the Kosovo independence so that you have who very important reason to attack him through Dick Marty styles. If he was such as you describe he should have been behind bars years ago like other war criminals.

“This story won't go away and the facts will test the resolve of most albanians to face the facts that your people and society waged war for profit, for drugs, for ethnic cleansing..and now for organs. After 10 years now of death and destruction of Serbian culture, this calls for punishment, this calls for retribution, this calls for justice, this calls for civilized people of all nations, albanians included, to step up and condemn this barbarism. This calls for Kouchner to be thrown in a Serbian jail as he was obviously involved by his pathetic attempt to cover this crime up on behalf of his french nation...yes the french...cowards!”

It is very obvious that the majority of comments on this blog is made up of emotional results and not reasonable one. Man, to call the French people cowards this shows a considerable lack of culture. I have no more words to say I am simply surprised.

michael

pre 13 godina

It's simply amazing that the albanian TROLLS continue to defend not only thaci, but the actions committed against humans in order to remove their organs. It's not a baseless charge, and it's not a fuel smuggling across a border during sanctions. This is an action in the hundreds, perhaps thousands, where innocent people were taken, MURDERED, in order to harvest organs for monetary gain. It's incredible, it's shocking, it's beyond comprehension that this horror was committed AFTER the bombing of Serbs by NATO. One cannot comprehend the helplessness and fear these individuals must have endured during their captivity, knowing their murder was to eventually take place in order to take their internal organs. This is beyond war, this is simply an extension of NAZI Germany plain and simple in the 21st century.

For years now, Serbs have stood firm against this horror committed against their people by albanian KLA terrorist. May I be clear, I do not blame all albanians, but I do blame and accuse the KLA, it's terorists members, and all those who support their actions. Most Serbs condemn Milosovic and his actions, I'd be the first to propose a firing squad for our criminal boss.

This story won't go away and the facts will test the resolve of most albanians to face the facts that your people and society waged war for profit, for drugs, for ethnic cleansing..and now for organs. After 10 years now of death and destruction of Serbian culture, this calls for punishment, this calls for retribution, this calls for justice, this calls for civilized people of all nations, albanians included, to step up and condemn this barbarism. This calls for Kouchner to be thrown in a Serbian jail as he was obviously involved by his pathetic attempt to cover this crime up on behalf of his french nation...yes the french...cowards!

This crime cannot go unpunished and simply washed away. If you know anything about Serbs, our victims will be glorified and remembered as heros of our nation..songs will be written, prayers will be spoken, the war obviously is not over.

Nikola

pre 13 godina

America didn't even try and cover this up. And if they did, only to save their own asses. If the Albanians were as important as they thought they were, this would not have been revealed.

The only way you can run apart of our country is by Western help and you know it. Tirana can't help you do it, the Islamic world wont help you do it. It is only the West.

What will you do when they abandon you? You MUST face your superiors once again.

And yes K.albos.. we Serbs, are your superiors.


Nevermind this talk about Belgrade POSSIBLY annexing Northern Kosovo. The entire province is ours and not yours.

Belgrade must grow a pair first though.



Nema Predaje

Top

pre 13 godina

"There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania."
(PRN, 17 December 2010 15:54)

"Century" might be the correct word to be used, not "year" ;-)

sj

pre 13 godina

(Kujto, 17 December 2010 19:06)
You can remove organs in a barn, chicken coop or out in the open field provided the area around you and the body is sterile. This is very easy to do; what do you think happens in combat situations such as in Afghanistan where doctors have to operate on site in an emergency? Don’t tell me they carry on their back an entire operating theater.
“…took a kidney, sewd it up, put them in a dirty barn in the middle of a village and then went days later to take other organs. Please, are people that dumb to believe it”
It’s more like the Albanians that were doing this thought that they could come back and take more to sell thinking no one would notice. You do know that even amongst the Albanians there are stupid people?

(johny, 17 December 2010 19:04)
You see the US is not convinced so it and its friends, the UK and France would vote the proposal down. That’s the reason why Serbia is not saying anything, but letting others who are more powerful to do all the talking. It’s no coincidence that this report has come out so soon after Wiki Leaks has released all those cables.
The Albanian President is making these statements knowing that there will be no investigation or if there is one then the US will stack it with their people and they will find nothing.

EA

pre 13 godina

"What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined”
Jeremić said.

The accusations are very grave indeed. I am very convinced in Thaci innocence. I have said in the past that it might be have never ruled out that elements of KLA might have acted irresponsible. What we have in Dick Marty report only hate towards Albanians, general political anti Albanian statements and no strong evidence to prove its accusations. I do no think Dick Marty will get away with this very easy. Either Thaci be sent to prison or Dick Marty be ruined financially, sent to prison for slander or being checked mentally. The last one would be the easiest option for him.

laki bani

pre 13 godina

I agree that Prime Minister Thaqi has in incredible manner been stealing his own voters and people, but I am 100 % aware that the rumors about organizing, kidnapping Serbs than transporting them to Albania for removing organs are a pure organized hunt by the original organs traders, that is Serbian propaganda who does not hesitate to unfold the wounds that had been committed by their selves in most brutal an bloody manner against the others during the bloody war period in Balkans.

blue and gold

pre 13 godina

How about the still missing ~1500 k.albanians Mr. Jeremic which are probably still buried in some mass graves in Serbia; that’s a test for you and your country which claims to be so democratic….the hypocrisy!

johny

pre 13 godina

“I see this as a great moral test for the international community. What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined, and this issue must not be swept under the rug,” Jeremić said after his meeting with Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci.

-- Still waiting for Serbia and you to call an urgent UN meeting when you formally request an internal investigation. This is day 3 and Serbia, including Jeremic is awfully passive and inactive. Why? Albania's president today is calling for such an investigation. Why isn't Serbia taking the official steps? What is the reason behind this passivity and silence?

PRN

pre 13 godina

"NEVER"

You will loose everything in coming months or a year.

EVERYTHING!
(ZMAJ, 17 December 2010 14:26)

Oh my dear,

There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania. The remaining regions such as Presevo valley is not far either.

You seem to be too young to understand politics, lies and propaganda...

One day you will get to learn.

Kujto

pre 13 godina

Memo to you all :)
Everyone knows that Thaci (like most Balkan pols) is corrupt to the core and has stolen $$$ and votes, along with his pals. Vetevendosje supporters were arrested today for writing 'Thief' in his campaign posters, so corruption allegations are not new.

However, the 'organ' this a hit piece and everyone knows, doctors know it best. First, to transplant or to take them you need STERILE conditions with a team of dozen doctors and nurses (as per a Serbian doc on another newspaper that starts with N), not a barn on the crumbling house like Del Ponte said and you don't 'shoot in the head' to take his organ to transports it over the mountains, wait at an airport, pass it through customs, take another plane, pass through customs there and not have any proof. One tiny thing and the organ is useless. Del Ponte even said that they took a kidney, sewd it up, put them in a dirty barn in the middle of a village and then went days later to take other organs. Please, are people that dumb to believe it?

Serbia says that 500 of these things happened and there is ZERO evidence, ZERO. So think.

Kujto

pre 13 godina

"It’s more like the Albanians that were doing this thought that they could come back and take more to sell thinking no one would notice."

Yeah, kidneys are like watches. No need for blood match, to preserve it, transplant it within hours, store and extract in sterile conditions etc etc. You can keep them at home and walk around town asking if anyone wants a kidney. I saw one at the mall, kidney and liver from 2006 for sale :)

Mark

pre 13 godina

“I see this as a great moral test for the international community. What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined, and this issue must not be swept under the rug,” Jeremić said

There are 2 thousand albanians missing since the war.When Serbia investigates and returns the bodies of at least 1500 of them then you can ask for investigation on your 500 missing.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-What will you do when they abandon you? You MUST face your superiors once again.

And yes K.albos.. we Serbs, are your superiors.--

Normally if you read this kind of trash you just laugh: oh, those wacko nationalists... thank god there are so few such extremists!

But no, i think such "wacko" opinions are quite widely held, esp.ly among their diaspora, but also within serbia itself. so many years of propaganda and "education"; so much brainwashing...

i can imagine what my albanian colleagues are thinking: same old, same old. right? but what about those on the other side -- the extremists, the so-called moderates, their, um, "nice" global allies. do they just nod? chuckle? remain silent?

sometimes the racism is so pervasive people just stop seeing it, they just take is as a fact of life, like how here in the US (oops, i'm still not in pristina :)) it was once assumed by many (not all!) that whites were superior to blacks.

so whether there is even such a thing as "race" (I personally find it a bizarre concept), there is surely rac-ism, and no end to it at our dear, beloved website...

hvala mnoga, b92.

roberto
frisco

Endri

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote:

"You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation."

Is this irrational claim a national saga in today's Kosovo?"

I think that you have misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. The idea behind is that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation which resulted in loosing of serbian power e.g Kosovo. Therefore many serbs will not forget that fact so easy. It has nothing to do with national saga or whatever you think in such sense.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.
(PRN)
-
Apparently its been proven now. The UN/EU/US and NATO just need some time now to put all things together before the big guns come out. Beaurocrats from all over are probably now all scrambling to lose any connection with Thaci.

This is so apparent right now; Kosovo never had any integrity to stand on, Kosovo cannot sustain itself, EU doesnt want to deal with people coming from there and Kosovo is Serbia, and will be under Belgrade's control in the next coming months. Kosovo has nowhere else to go, the turth has finally come clear. It's time to accept, the first step in rehabilitation.

Olli

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote:

"You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation."

Is this irrational claim a national saga in today's Kosovo?

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

"There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania."
(PRN)
-
UN or Albania? Are we now comparing apples with oranges?

I am pleasead to finally see that you have come to some degree of sense. Kosovo cannot sustain itself; So you think either the UN (lol), or Albania (bigger - LOL) will babysit/provide/fund.

Je¿ administracyjny prowincji Bolonia

pre 13 godina

Roberto, please explain the "baloney" you mentioned few times regarding the yellow house and it's relation to mortadella.

Not sure, it wasn't an ugly, racist and bigot comment of yours than but I am sure, it won't be forgotten.

Thank you for your explanation in advance.

Olli

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote: "I think that you have misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. The idea behind is that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation which resulted in loosing of serbian power e.g Kosovo."

I misunderstood nothing. You claim that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation.

Whether it was liberation or something else the fact remains that the main role was played by NATO. But guessing from your writing, the story offered in Kosovo Albanian schools is different kind.

Endri, building your self-confidence on an untruth will not take you neither your people anywhere.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

Endri, building your self-confidence on an untruth will not take you neither your people anywhere.
(Olli, 19 December 2010)

How's that different from Serbia "building it s confidence" on a military some 600 years in Kosovo Polje? Look where it got you.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"NEVER"

You will loose everything in coming months or a year.

EVERYTHING!
(ZMAJ, 17 December 2010 14:26)

Oh my dear,

There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania. The remaining regions such as Presevo valley is not far either.

You seem to be too young to understand politics, lies and propaganda...

One day you will get to learn.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"FM: Organ trafficking case test for world"

Thaci's is accussed but there are NO Facts... Even Marty admits this.

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.

EA

pre 13 godina

"What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined”
Jeremić said.

The accusations are very grave indeed. I am very convinced in Thaci innocence. I have said in the past that it might be have never ruled out that elements of KLA might have acted irresponsible. What we have in Dick Marty report only hate towards Albanians, general political anti Albanian statements and no strong evidence to prove its accusations. I do no think Dick Marty will get away with this very easy. Either Thaci be sent to prison or Dick Marty be ruined financially, sent to prison for slander or being checked mentally. The last one would be the easiest option for him.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

Jeremić underlined that this would represent a "great moral test for the international community". That will be a easy test just do not do as Serbs have done and are still at it in Bosnia. Then you will pass it with flying colours it is that simple

Kosova-USA

pre 13 godina

ej Vuk, I got some news for you, as follows:"Why don't you arrange with Dick Marty to arrest Kosova PM Thaci next week, since Thaci is going to Hague to visit Rambo. This is your last shot on Thaci.

laki bani

pre 13 godina

I agree that Prime Minister Thaqi has in incredible manner been stealing his own voters and people, but I am 100 % aware that the rumors about organizing, kidnapping Serbs than transporting them to Albania for removing organs are a pure organized hunt by the original organs traders, that is Serbian propaganda who does not hesitate to unfold the wounds that had been committed by their selves in most brutal an bloody manner against the others during the bloody war period in Balkans.

Kujto

pre 13 godina

Memo to you all :)
Everyone knows that Thaci (like most Balkan pols) is corrupt to the core and has stolen $$$ and votes, along with his pals. Vetevendosje supporters were arrested today for writing 'Thief' in his campaign posters, so corruption allegations are not new.

However, the 'organ' this a hit piece and everyone knows, doctors know it best. First, to transplant or to take them you need STERILE conditions with a team of dozen doctors and nurses (as per a Serbian doc on another newspaper that starts with N), not a barn on the crumbling house like Del Ponte said and you don't 'shoot in the head' to take his organ to transports it over the mountains, wait at an airport, pass it through customs, take another plane, pass through customs there and not have any proof. One tiny thing and the organ is useless. Del Ponte even said that they took a kidney, sewd it up, put them in a dirty barn in the middle of a village and then went days later to take other organs. Please, are people that dumb to believe it?

Serbia says that 500 of these things happened and there is ZERO evidence, ZERO. So think.

blue and gold

pre 13 godina

How about the still missing ~1500 k.albanians Mr. Jeremic which are probably still buried in some mass graves in Serbia; that’s a test for you and your country which claims to be so democratic….the hypocrisy!

Mark

pre 13 godina

“I see this as a great moral test for the international community. What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined, and this issue must not be swept under the rug,” Jeremić said

There are 2 thousand albanians missing since the war.When Serbia investigates and returns the bodies of at least 1500 of them then you can ask for investigation on your 500 missing.

Endri

pre 13 godina

“It's simply amazing that the albanian TROLLS continue to defend not only thaci, but the actions committed against humans in order to remove their organs.”

Could you please give us only a single line where the Albanians defend any kind of crime as you say???? Don’t you think that you are the only troll here who interprets the comments according to your wishes? Such cheap shots make you Serbs ridiculous in the world’s eyes. I am one of them who deny such baseless report sold to the opinion recently which is different from denying a crime whose act is proved through evidences. So far Thaci is the same who was 3 days ago elected democratically from the majority of Kosovo people.

“May I be clear, I do not blame all albanians, but I do blame and accuse the KLA, it's terorists members, and all those who support their actions.”

Let me mention to you a simply truth. You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation. Beside KLA commander Thaci was one of them to be remembered as the one who signed the Kosovo independence so that you have who very important reason to attack him through Dick Marty styles. If he was such as you describe he should have been behind bars years ago like other war criminals.

“This story won't go away and the facts will test the resolve of most albanians to face the facts that your people and society waged war for profit, for drugs, for ethnic cleansing..and now for organs. After 10 years now of death and destruction of Serbian culture, this calls for punishment, this calls for retribution, this calls for justice, this calls for civilized people of all nations, albanians included, to step up and condemn this barbarism. This calls for Kouchner to be thrown in a Serbian jail as he was obviously involved by his pathetic attempt to cover this crime up on behalf of his french nation...yes the french...cowards!”

It is very obvious that the majority of comments on this blog is made up of emotional results and not reasonable one. Man, to call the French people cowards this shows a considerable lack of culture. I have no more words to say I am simply surprised.

nikshala

pre 13 godina

for once i agree with Jeremic!!! What is the world coming to?!!

There should be an investigation into this - and if no concrete evidence is found - Marty and Del Polet should be sued.

johny

pre 13 godina

“I see this as a great moral test for the international community. What we have here are grave accusations and they have to be thoroughly investigated and examined, and this issue must not be swept under the rug,” Jeremić said after his meeting with Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci.

-- Still waiting for Serbia and you to call an urgent UN meeting when you formally request an internal investigation. This is day 3 and Serbia, including Jeremic is awfully passive and inactive. Why? Albania's president today is calling for such an investigation. Why isn't Serbia taking the official steps? What is the reason behind this passivity and silence?

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.
(PRN, 17 December 2010 11:05)

"NEVER"

You will loose everything in coming months or a year.

EVERYTHING!

Nikola

pre 13 godina

America didn't even try and cover this up. And if they did, only to save their own asses. If the Albanians were as important as they thought they were, this would not have been revealed.

The only way you can run apart of our country is by Western help and you know it. Tirana can't help you do it, the Islamic world wont help you do it. It is only the West.

What will you do when they abandon you? You MUST face your superiors once again.

And yes K.albos.. we Serbs, are your superiors.


Nevermind this talk about Belgrade POSSIBLY annexing Northern Kosovo. The entire province is ours and not yours.

Belgrade must grow a pair first though.



Nema Predaje

michael

pre 13 godina

It's simply amazing that the albanian TROLLS continue to defend not only thaci, but the actions committed against humans in order to remove their organs. It's not a baseless charge, and it's not a fuel smuggling across a border during sanctions. This is an action in the hundreds, perhaps thousands, where innocent people were taken, MURDERED, in order to harvest organs for monetary gain. It's incredible, it's shocking, it's beyond comprehension that this horror was committed AFTER the bombing of Serbs by NATO. One cannot comprehend the helplessness and fear these individuals must have endured during their captivity, knowing their murder was to eventually take place in order to take their internal organs. This is beyond war, this is simply an extension of NAZI Germany plain and simple in the 21st century.

For years now, Serbs have stood firm against this horror committed against their people by albanian KLA terrorist. May I be clear, I do not blame all albanians, but I do blame and accuse the KLA, it's terorists members, and all those who support their actions. Most Serbs condemn Milosovic and his actions, I'd be the first to propose a firing squad for our criminal boss.

This story won't go away and the facts will test the resolve of most albanians to face the facts that your people and society waged war for profit, for drugs, for ethnic cleansing..and now for organs. After 10 years now of death and destruction of Serbian culture, this calls for punishment, this calls for retribution, this calls for justice, this calls for civilized people of all nations, albanians included, to step up and condemn this barbarism. This calls for Kouchner to be thrown in a Serbian jail as he was obviously involved by his pathetic attempt to cover this crime up on behalf of his french nation...yes the french...cowards!

This crime cannot go unpunished and simply washed away. If you know anything about Serbs, our victims will be glorified and remembered as heros of our nation..songs will be written, prayers will be spoken, the war obviously is not over.

Kujto

pre 13 godina

"It’s more like the Albanians that were doing this thought that they could come back and take more to sell thinking no one would notice."

Yeah, kidneys are like watches. No need for blood match, to preserve it, transplant it within hours, store and extract in sterile conditions etc etc. You can keep them at home and walk around town asking if anyone wants a kidney. I saw one at the mall, kidney and liver from 2006 for sale :)

Jovan

pre 13 godina

seems like kiddo´s like PRN still don´t get it straight.

if something has gone so far, in regard to accusations and suspicion, there seems to be something to it.

and this should even be clear for you, my dear k-albanian friend.

ignorance is a bad advisor...


this is something very serious, for the k-albanians even more than for the Serbs.

because, it let´s the greater albanian project look like built on most bestial atrocities against humanity and values that are shared by all poeple over the globe.

and the most interesting thing is: this came to light without any US-american effforts to cover it up.

even if it is still too early for a change of US-foreign policy in regard to "the Balkans", it´s getting worse for you and your greater albanian illusion.

and that is good, of course.

sj

pre 13 godina

(Kujto, 17 December 2010 19:06)
You can remove organs in a barn, chicken coop or out in the open field provided the area around you and the body is sterile. This is very easy to do; what do you think happens in combat situations such as in Afghanistan where doctors have to operate on site in an emergency? Don’t tell me they carry on their back an entire operating theater.
“…took a kidney, sewd it up, put them in a dirty barn in the middle of a village and then went days later to take other organs. Please, are people that dumb to believe it”
It’s more like the Albanians that were doing this thought that they could come back and take more to sell thinking no one would notice. You do know that even amongst the Albanians there are stupid people?

(johny, 17 December 2010 19:04)
You see the US is not convinced so it and its friends, the UK and France would vote the proposal down. That’s the reason why Serbia is not saying anything, but letting others who are more powerful to do all the talking. It’s no coincidence that this report has come out so soon after Wiki Leaks has released all those cables.
The Albanian President is making these statements knowing that there will be no investigation or if there is one then the US will stack it with their people and they will find nothing.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

"There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania."
(PRN)
-
UN or Albania? Are we now comparing apples with oranges?

I am pleasead to finally see that you have come to some degree of sense. Kosovo cannot sustain itself; So you think either the UN (lol), or Albania (bigger - LOL) will babysit/provide/fund.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-What will you do when they abandon you? You MUST face your superiors once again.

And yes K.albos.. we Serbs, are your superiors.--

Normally if you read this kind of trash you just laugh: oh, those wacko nationalists... thank god there are so few such extremists!

But no, i think such "wacko" opinions are quite widely held, esp.ly among their diaspora, but also within serbia itself. so many years of propaganda and "education"; so much brainwashing...

i can imagine what my albanian colleagues are thinking: same old, same old. right? but what about those on the other side -- the extremists, the so-called moderates, their, um, "nice" global allies. do they just nod? chuckle? remain silent?

sometimes the racism is so pervasive people just stop seeing it, they just take is as a fact of life, like how here in the US (oops, i'm still not in pristina :)) it was once assumed by many (not all!) that whites were superior to blacks.

so whether there is even such a thing as "race" (I personally find it a bizarre concept), there is surely rac-ism, and no end to it at our dear, beloved website...

hvala mnoga, b92.

roberto
frisco

Olli

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote: "I think that you have misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. The idea behind is that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation which resulted in loosing of serbian power e.g Kosovo."

I misunderstood nothing. You claim that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation.

Whether it was liberation or something else the fact remains that the main role was played by NATO. But guessing from your writing, the story offered in Kosovo Albanian schools is different kind.

Endri, building your self-confidence on an untruth will not take you neither your people anywhere.

Top

pre 13 godina

"There is nothing to loose. Kosovo by the end of this year will join the UN or Albania."
(PRN, 17 December 2010 15:54)

"Century" might be the correct word to be used, not "year" ;-)

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Those what Marty 'found' were reports by some people/agencies(western) who were investigated hundreds of times and nothing was found. So Marty is just presenting that what the West suspected, but it was NEVER proved.
(PRN)
-
Apparently its been proven now. The UN/EU/US and NATO just need some time now to put all things together before the big guns come out. Beaurocrats from all over are probably now all scrambling to lose any connection with Thaci.

This is so apparent right now; Kosovo never had any integrity to stand on, Kosovo cannot sustain itself, EU doesnt want to deal with people coming from there and Kosovo is Serbia, and will be under Belgrade's control in the next coming months. Kosovo has nowhere else to go, the turth has finally come clear. It's time to accept, the first step in rehabilitation.

Olli

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote:

"You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation."

Is this irrational claim a national saga in today's Kosovo?

Endri

pre 13 godina

Endri,

You wrote:

"You Serbs will never forget what KLA did to you as main force behind Kosovo liberation."

Is this irrational claim a national saga in today's Kosovo?"

I think that you have misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. The idea behind is that KLA played the main role in Kosovo liberation which resulted in loosing of serbian power e.g Kosovo. Therefore many serbs will not forget that fact so easy. It has nothing to do with national saga or whatever you think in such sense.

Je¿ administracyjny prowincji Bolonia

pre 13 godina

Roberto, please explain the "baloney" you mentioned few times regarding the yellow house and it's relation to mortadella.

Not sure, it wasn't an ugly, racist and bigot comment of yours than but I am sure, it won't be forgotten.

Thank you for your explanation in advance.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

Endri, building your self-confidence on an untruth will not take you neither your people anywhere.
(Olli, 19 December 2010)

How's that different from Serbia "building it s confidence" on a military some 600 years in Kosovo Polje? Look where it got you.