Marty: Everyone knew about shocking crimes

"Finally, we arrived at the conclusion that these events were known to many intelligence services from many countries. This was known to the police, to a large number of people, who would privately say, 'yes, I am aware of that', but who, for the sake of political opportunism, would decide to remain silent," he continued.
"What has shocked me is that most facts in this report were known to a large
number of organisations"

My deepest congratulations that one more time you had the courage to say loud what all these dirty politicians are trying to hide from us! YOU definitely deserve a statue and all the possible medals, not people like Clinton, Attisari, Bliar, who without any doubts knew about these facts and hided it, hence accepting all sort of rewards from criminals.
Your way is certainly going to be harder from now on, without doubts you will face a lot of pressure, blackmail etc
but without any doubts you will succeed again.

Yes my Albanian friends, very soon we will find out who is telling the truth and who is lying. This is very good for the region so let the truth be known.

Marty: Everyone knew about shocking crimes B92

Who knew the most of the story?

I bet Richard Holbrooke.

What about Madeleine Albright?

Our government is about to fail again. I hope Vladimir Vukčević will shut up a while and work faster + harder, he's not just payed- this is his moral obligation.

Also, as I said many times our secret services in cooperation with other structures and foreign factors should detain Kosovo Albanians, Albanian citizens, Israeli citizens and US citizens involved. It just doesn't matter how much it cost- 500 millions, billion or two. Big things are for big boys with a big "friends" and big weapons.

Vukcevic?

Marty?

I am skeptical about the final end of the story, there's "truth" and truth- truth about part of the subject or a whole subject. We achieved something from Kosovo and Presevo valley and some things fell (by luck) in our hands..

Lucky we are!

What about to use our "tourists", anesthesia and diplomatic luggage as the rest of "the normal world".

Move your asses while it's hot!

...and the truth will set you free.

Bottom line, all fingers point to the US State Dept. and CIA. They were the orchestrators of an independent Albanian Kosovo, they backed the terrorist KLA, because they (Thaci & Co.) had supreme power in Kosovo. The entire "humanitarian intervention" was a concoction, a lie, and the cover ups continue to this day. YouTube a German documentary titled "It started with a lie", and you will get an idea of what was going on. Eventually, the truth must prevail, it is a Devine commandment.

That is not a talking from a professional but from a commentator. His report is a political one and full of fictions. This guy soon will need to be checked mentally. He doesnt look all right anyway.
(EA, 16 December 2010 20:44)
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Yes Dr, EA. How clever of you to be able to spot mental illness so quickly.

Some knew of trouble but didn't want to report it because it would hurt their interests. In the US there is a saying about leaders like Thaci. He's a Son of a Bxtch but he's our son of a Bxtch. The the US and other controlling powers, the ends justify the means. So what if Thaci and his cronies earn some extra money through crime so long as they do what we want them to do. Those who turned a blind eye to these crimes are as or even more guilty than Thaci himself and should be brought to justice. This includes Blair, Clinton, Albright, and that stupid general Wesley Clark.

is (now) trying to back away from organ trading claims, not once are they mentioned in this story, just 'crimes'. A crime is even a stolen shoe.
(Albanes, 16 December 2010, 19:50)

You know what is truly disturbing and to a certain extend disgusting with guys like and other k-a trolls here? Albanians and other etnicities were also victims of these inhuman acts but this seems to be normal for you!!

Of course am not expecting that you will kiss Mr Marty's hand, but am not sure that he will want that too.... His integrity, if you know what it means, has never suffered, and people like you and other k-a trolls can only dream to have even 1% of it...
Good luck with your head in the sand, and don't forget that now the all world is having their eyes focused, so better behave, if you know what that word means !!

Unbelievable! Thaci is running around Kosovo after the bombing stops, doing a Freddy Krueger number, and the internationals, mainly the US under Madame Secretary Madeline Albright, looks the other way and puts her index finger to her closed lips for all to follow. Too bad her accomplice Holbrooke isn't here to enjoy this news too. But he would be very busy threatening Marti right now.

P.S. Marty has no clue what he has done, read the report and you will see why he is screwed, he mentioned names of people. Unless he can back them up he is ruined, professionally and financially--at least.
(Albanes, 16 December 2010 20:45)
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At least you hope he can't.
Marty is not stupid. He has done this sort of thing before and came out a winner.
What on earth makes you think that he is silly enough to claim something he cannot back up?

He is not Athisaari.

Who else has noticed the selective justice supporters are very quiet at the moment? I suppose this news doesn't fit in with their agenda.

What a fiasco on their part. :)

"particularly shocked" to find out during his two-year investigation that a large number of people, and organizations, knew about the crimes but "did not wish to talk about it".

So how does he know if they didn't talk about it??? Ah, they only talked to him and to no one else, so we can't prove anything because people are scared. He went there with 2 cars and everyone talked to him, but to UN or EULEX. Uh, huh.

This guy is accusing the West of knowing about organ trading, that's what the report is about, not whether /how come Thaci has a 800m2 house on a 2000 euro /month salary.

These will not fly in court Mr Marty, you gotta back with facts that Thaci knew /ordered Serbs killed so their organs would be sold. Otherwise, better pray that Russia gives you a pension for old age. Notice how he is (now) trying to back away from organ trading claims, not once are they mentioned in this story, just 'crimes'. A crime is even a stolen shoe.

Serbia is ruining for Mr Marty who tried to stay away from numbers and specifics:
"BELGRADE - Serbia's war crimes prosecutor who has led an investigation on alleged organ trafficking by ethnic Albanian guerrillas in 1999 said on Thursday there had been some 500 victims of the racket.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Serbia+says+victims+alleged+organ+trafficking/3987937/story.html"

So 500 Serbs were held in jail, had their kidneys taken, killed, buried and kidneys sent via plane outside Albania, transplanted in European countries and there is zero evidence? Mart y was smart to say "at least a few" Serbia says 500! Go Serbia, more claims please.

P.S. Marty has no clue what he has done, read the report and you will see why he is screwed, he mentioned names of people. Unless he can back them up he is ruined, professionally and financially--at least.

It isn't hard to get evidence if there is any.

No need to put people on jeopardy but take foto's of the body (not of the head to keep the identity a secret).

Check where the organs went to.

If you have these evidences, than you can continue your investigation.

Until now none of these have been forwarded although the accusations goes back for years (since 2004) and where dismissed because of no evidence.

The only people that went of to genocide are the Serbs/Serbia.

You serbs do see the splinter in the Albanian's eye but seems to miss the beam in your own eye.

If crimes have been commited than these persons should face justice, whomever - whenever.

The Eagle

Marty noted that his report "said nothing new", and that "everybody knew about the crimes of the KLA".


"nothing new" , so your report has no evidence, than why in hell are trying to make it look something that is not?
I hope somebody is doing some reaserch on your hidden bank accounts.

Still pretty lame (report) ...
..."most facts in this report were known to a large number of organizations." Whom are these organizations, how do you know that they knew????? What a paid imbecil. Evidence please. The world knows who Serbia is, and it isn't a pretty impression...eveidence? PLENTY! so no worries about who are the heartless criminals.

" I believe that a future of a country cannot be built without truth, without insisting on truth and memory. There will never be peace between various communities if the principle of 'not wanting to know' continues," Marty warned."

Exactly that. Albanians who defend their 'hero' Thaci are not any better than Serbs defending their 'hero' Milosevic. Why don't they see that their leaders do more harm for Kosovo? Don't you think more countries would be willing to recognize Kosovo with a non corrupt government, based on people with clean hands?

First and foremost I am not a Thaci supporter nor did I ever vote for him. With that said Marty’s saying ‘This is nothing new’ is true in a sense that there is no new evidence; ICJY did an investigation, Serbia did their own investigation and there is no concrete evidence that these alleged organ trading occurred.
According to him and his report Albania, Kosovo, UNMIK, EULEX and any other groups (including intelligence services from the western countries) were not cooperative on the investigation or did not do enough to punish these crimes…okay, fine let’s assume for a second that’s true. If you Marty consider yourself a true investigator why do you focus so much on the source of these organs considering you have so many alleged roadblocks? Why don’t you focus on where these organs went and work yourself backwards…you indicate that the purpose of these organs was to be sold in the black market correct? They did not just vanish somewhere. So someone out there must’ve received these alleged traded organs. I’m sure other countries where these alleged body organs went will cooperate with you on this investigation. So stop making political statements and start doing some true investigation. Until then, in your own words ‘there is nothing new’.
In addition, the draft reported also noted that there are still more than a thousand ethnic Albanians missing; I wonder why Serbia is not being chastised for that on this report. Fishy, very fishy…

...Don't you think more countries would be willing to recognize Kosovo with a non corrupt government, based on people with clean hands?
(Top, 16 December 2010 21:48)...

No! Because the countries that don't recognise Kosova, they dot do this because the Kosovo gonverment is corrupt,but because either they hate albanians(i.e slovakians and greeks),hate americans ( i.e arab and latin america countries) or love serbs like Russia.Do you really think that if albanian PM would have been a very clean person the above countries will recognise Kosovo?100% no!
Secondly,those are allegations and allegations with NO WITNESSES.
Personally I don't like Thaci but I can not shut up when an anti albanian reporter, tells lies and doesn'e have ONE PROOF.Albanians are not protecting Thaci but their just war,there is a big difference.
Saying that Thaci has a big house doesn'e make him a human organ criminel.

"Marty noted that his report "said nothing new", and that "everybody knew about the crimes of the KLA".

That is not a talking from a professional but from a commentator. His report is a political one and full of fictions. This guy soon will need to be checked mentally. He doesnt look all right anyway.

Both nationalities: Albanians and Serbian must know the truth, the real truth.
There have been crimes commited by Serbian officials against Albanians, as well some crimes from people identified with KLA aginst Serbians.
But here we have to take into account the propotionality of the war crimes.
Ok lets say 500 serbs killeed, everybody who did that should send in prison whoever is that guy. Also everybody know about 13000 Albanians killed from Serbian state during Milosevic regime.
Everybody who commited war crimes shoul be punished. Sociatey should go ahead and move beyond the politicans manipulation

Exactly that. Albanians who defend their 'hero' Thaci are not any better than Serbs defending their 'hero' Milosevic. Why don't they see that their leaders do more harm for Kosovo? Don't you think more countries would be willing to recognize Kosovo with a non corrupt government, based on people with clean hands?
(Top, 16 December 2010 21:48)

No problem with that. As soon as Hague requests an extradiction for him, Albanians themselves will deliver him in a silver platter. Unlike Mladic, no one will hide him, if proven guilty in the court of law. Until then he is still the prime minister of Kosova.

This report is eerily in synchronization with accusations stemming from your chief prosecutor. Add a Dick who has been against Kosovo's independence and you have yourself a case. See, I am not making assumptions. Pure logic ladies and gents. Dick, on the other hand, bases his facts on hearsay, himself admitting that he has no evidence per se. Let's see how long B92 can spin this story.

Who else has noticed the selective justice supporters are very quiet at the moment? I suppose this news doesn't fit in with their agenda.

What a fiasco on their part. :)
(Zoran, 16 December 2010 21:29)

I have. Tadic, Jeremic, Nikolic, Kostunica, Ivanovic, Bogdanovic, that IM of yours, and the Ruskies are all quiet and silent. Instead of urgently gathering a UN session formally requesting a UN mandate over an international investigation on this issue; they remain awfully quiet, passive and inactive. It is quite strange especially considering that we heard about a phone line for months and months; yet the Serb and Russian leaders refuse to take any concrete action at the UN and all other international organizations but rather choose to remain quiet. It is very strange, considering the power Russia yields. And from a Serb prospective, it is quite scary. Its as if with their silence they want to silence the truth; but also make sure Thaci doesn't fall. There is a lot of duplicity in the attitude of the Serbs and the Russians. Their silence is eery.

Serbia fired the last bullet; a bullet named Dick.

Mr Marty is identified as a man who has always opposed Kosovan independence, and is now collaborating with Serbia in a conspiracy to discourage any more countries from recognising Kosovo.

Only 72 of the 192 members of the UN have so far done so. The first task of the new government elected last Sunday will be to begin the much delayed discussions with Serbia on normalising relations, and officials in Pristina fear the ground is being prepared to make them more pliable.

A string of other "coincidences" are being put forward in the Kosovan capital, to explain the exact timing of Mr Marty's report. One idea doing the rounds in Pristina, is that if the government remains in firm denial, it has no choice but to sue Mr Marty for slander.

The European Union officials in both Brussels and Pristina have challenged the author of the report to come up with his evidence.

"The ball is in Mr Marty's court now," said one Pristina source.

At least you hope he can't.
Marty is not stupid. He has done this sort of thing before and came out a winner.
What on earth makes you think that he is silly enough to claim something he cannot back up?

He is not Athisaari.
(Peggy, 16 December 2010 21:22)

No he is not Ahtisaari, that's why he will fail miserably to prove his report.

Both nationalities: Albanians and Serbian must know the truth, the real truth.
There have been crimes commited by Serbian officials against Albanians, as well some crimes from people identified with KLA aginst Serbians.
But here we have to take into account the propotionality of the war crimes.
Ok lets say 500 serbs killeed, everybody who did that should send in prison whoever is that guy. Also everybody know about 13000 Albanians killed from Serbian state during Milosevic regime.
Everybody who commited war crimes shoul be punished. Sociatey should go ahead and move beyond the politicans manipulation
(Noli, 16 December 2010 23:54)
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Obviously you're uneducated on the subject...that number you're mentioning of Serbs killing 13,000 Albanians...only about 3500 bodies have ever been found and that was DURING THE CONFLICT...the 400-700 Serbs which were butchered for organs were killed AFTER the war was over...you either fail to mention number of Serbs killed DURING the conflict because of your ignorance or because of your undieing love for albanians/hatred for serbs...

Their silence is eery.
(johny, 16 December 2010 22:44)
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Huh? You're not making sense johny.

Recipients include Canadians, Germans and Israelis. ...

At least you hope he can't.
Marty is not stupid. He has done this sort of thing before and came out a winner.
What on earth makes you think that he is silly enough to claim something he cannot back up?

He is not Athisaari.
(Peggy, 16 December 2010 21:22)

Peggy
I want my PM tried and punished if such accusations will proven to be true. However I must ask you a professional question to you since I know you live in Australia and you most certainly are more in touch with modern achievements of technology. What I wonder is: Have you heard of any case (legally) where pulled organ can be pulled out of donor's body and be safely transported via air to receiver's body? If Yes I would appreciate you posting a link, because all I know so far is that willing donor and receiver have to be in the same clinic for the transplantation to take place. If this is possible now and was possible in 1999 then I am all for Thaci be investigated and face the court.
Two medical experts so far one from Albania and one from Serbia (his last name Stankovic) have denied this as possibility.

as i said yesterday still zero evidences only speculations. i give this report a maximum of 2 months to survive.

Finally, we arrived at the conclusion that these events were known to many intelligence services from many countries. This was known to the police, to a large number of people, who would privately say, 'yes, I am aware of that', but who, for the sake of political opportunism, would decide to remain silent," he continued.

You mean to the people from serbia who where catch in video for trying to buy witneses regarding this case you know the car they drive still sits in parking at the KPS parking lot ..I dont know maybe some of you forget about that

Too bad her accomplice Holbrooke isn't here to enjoy this news too. But he would be very busy threatening Marti right now.
(HockeyMask)
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You got it. Holbrooke got off fairly easy to be blunt. He is just as guilty as Thaci is, in regards to the organ traficking. The drug traficking is a whole other ball-game, thats about to come out. Kind of strange this man just disapeared (died), from the scene right when the pot started to boil.

"Have you heard of any case (legally) where pulled organ can be pulled out of donor's body and be safely transported via air to receiver's body? If Yes I would appreciate you posting a link, because all I know so far is that willing donor and receiver have to be in the same clinic for the transplantation to take place. If this is possible now and was possible in 1999 then I am all for Thaci be investigated and face the court.
Two medical experts so far one from Albania and one from Serbia (his last name Stankovic) have denied this as possibility.
(Simpatiku, 17 December 2010 13:34) "

Transporting organs is done all the time - a standard scene in police and medical TV shows is a helicopter landing on the roof of a hospital with a technician racing toward the operating room with what looks like a picnic cooler in his hand. When an organ-donor dies, his organs may be sent all over the country in different directions - eyes to one recipient, heart to another, etc. They've been doing this for years, maybe decades. Note the 3rd bullet point on the linked page http://www.unos.org/donation/index.php?topic=organ_allocation: one of the functions of the Organ Center is to "assist with transportation of organs and tissues for the purposes of transplantation."

The doctors you quoted obviously didn't realize that the victims were dead at the time of organ removal - without the requirement for anesthesia and constant monitoring, the removal process becomes elementary.

On a related note, if you live in the States, consider checking the "Organ Donor" box on the form when you renew your license to allow your organs to benefit someone else after your death. (I don't know how they handle the process in other countries.) There's always a need.

It isn't hard to get evidence if there is any.

No need to put people on jeopardy but take foto's of the body (not of the head to keep the identity a secret).

Check where the organs went to.

If you have these evidences, than you can continue your investigation.

Until now none of these have been forwarded although the accusations goes back for years (since 2004) and where dismissed because of no evidence.

The only people that went of to genocide are the Serbs/Serbia.

You serbs do see the splinter in the Albanian's eye but seems to miss the beam in your own eye.

If crimes have been commited than these persons should face justice, whomever - whenever.

The Eagle

"particularly shocked" to find out during his two-year investigation that a large number of people, and organizations, knew about the crimes but "did not wish to talk about it".

So how does he know if they didn't talk about it??? Ah, they only talked to him and to no one else, so we can't prove anything because people are scared. He went there with 2 cars and everyone talked to him, but to UN or EULEX. Uh, huh.

This guy is accusing the West of knowing about organ trading, that's what the report is about, not whether /how come Thaci has a 800m2 house on a 2000 euro /month salary.

These will not fly in court Mr Marty, you gotta back with facts that Thaci knew /ordered Serbs killed so their organs would be sold. Otherwise, better pray that Russia gives you a pension for old age. Notice how he is (now) trying to back away from organ trading claims, not once are they mentioned in this story, just 'crimes'. A crime is even a stolen shoe.

Still pretty lame (report) ...
..."most facts in this report were known to a large number of organizations." Whom are these organizations, how do you know that they knew????? What a paid imbecil. Evidence please. The world knows who Serbia is, and it isn't a pretty impression...eveidence? PLENTY! so no worries about who are the heartless criminals.

"Marty noted that his report "said nothing new", and that "everybody knew about the crimes of the KLA".

That is not a talking from a professional but from a commentator. His report is a political one and full of fictions. This guy soon will need to be checked mentally. He doesnt look all right anyway.

Marty noted that his report "said nothing new", and that "everybody knew about the crimes of the KLA".


"nothing new" , so your report has no evidence, than why in hell are trying to make it look something that is not?
I hope somebody is doing some reaserch on your hidden bank accounts.

Serbia is ruining for Mr Marty who tried to stay away from numbers and specifics:
"BELGRADE - Serbia's war crimes prosecutor who has led an investigation on alleged organ trafficking by ethnic Albanian guerrillas in 1999 said on Thursday there had been some 500 victims of the racket.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Serbia+says+victims+alleged+organ+trafficking/3987937/story.html"

So 500 Serbs were held in jail, had their kidneys taken, killed, buried and kidneys sent via plane outside Albania, transplanted in European countries and there is zero evidence? Mart y was smart to say "at least a few" Serbia says 500! Go Serbia, more claims please.

P.S. Marty has no clue what he has done, read the report and you will see why he is screwed, he mentioned names of people. Unless he can back them up he is ruined, professionally and financially--at least.

Bottom line, all fingers point to the US State Dept. and CIA. They were the orchestrators of an independent Albanian Kosovo, they backed the terrorist KLA, because they (Thaci & Co.) had supreme power in Kosovo. The entire "humanitarian intervention" was a concoction, a lie, and the cover ups continue to this day. YouTube a German documentary titled "It started with a lie", and you will get an idea of what was going on. Eventually, the truth must prevail, it is a Devine commandment.

...Don't you think more countries would be willing to recognize Kosovo with a non corrupt government, based on people with clean hands?
(Top, 16 December 2010 21:48)...

No! Because the countries that don't recognise Kosova, they dot do this because the Kosovo gonverment is corrupt,but because either they hate albanians(i.e slovakians and greeks),hate americans ( i.e arab and latin america countries) or love serbs like Russia.Do you really think that if albanian PM would have been a very clean person the above countries will recognise Kosovo?100% no!
Secondly,those are allegations and allegations with NO WITNESSES.
Personally I don't like Thaci but I can not shut up when an anti albanian reporter, tells lies and doesn'e have ONE PROOF.Albanians are not protecting Thaci but their just war,there is a big difference.
Saying that Thaci has a big house doesn'e make him a human organ criminel.

Some knew of trouble but didn't want to report it because it would hurt their interests. In the US there is a saying about leaders like Thaci. He's a Son of a Bxtch but he's our son of a Bxtch. The the US and other controlling powers, the ends justify the means. So what if Thaci and his cronies earn some extra money through crime so long as they do what we want them to do. Those who turned a blind eye to these crimes are as or even more guilty than Thaci himself and should be brought to justice. This includes Blair, Clinton, Albright, and that stupid general Wesley Clark.

Exactly that. Albanians who defend their 'hero' Thaci are not any better than Serbs defending their 'hero' Milosevic. Why don't they see that their leaders do more harm for Kosovo? Don't you think more countries would be willing to recognize Kosovo with a non corrupt government, based on people with clean hands?
(Top, 16 December 2010 21:48)

No problem with that. As soon as Hague requests an extradiction for him, Albanians themselves will deliver him in a silver platter. Unlike Mladic, no one will hide him, if proven guilty in the court of law. Until then he is still the prime minister of Kosova.

...and the truth will set you free.

is (now) trying to back away from organ trading claims, not once are they mentioned in this story, just 'crimes'. A crime is even a stolen shoe.
(Albanes, 16 December 2010, 19:50)

You know what is truly disturbing and to a certain extend disgusting with guys like and other k-a trolls here? Albanians and other etnicities were also victims of these inhuman acts but this seems to be normal for you!!

Of course am not expecting that you will kiss Mr Marty's hand, but am not sure that he will want that too.... His integrity, if you know what it means, has never suffered, and people like you and other k-a trolls can only dream to have even 1% of it...
Good luck with your head in the sand, and don't forget that now the all world is having their eyes focused, so better behave, if you know what that word means !!

Who else has noticed the selective justice supporters are very quiet at the moment? I suppose this news doesn't fit in with their agenda.

What a fiasco on their part. :)
(Zoran, 16 December 2010 21:29)

I have. Tadic, Jeremic, Nikolic, Kostunica, Ivanovic, Bogdanovic, that IM of yours, and the Ruskies are all quiet and silent. Instead of urgently gathering a UN session formally requesting a UN mandate over an international investigation on this issue; they remain awfully quiet, passive and inactive. It is quite strange especially considering that we heard about a phone line for months and months; yet the Serb and Russian leaders refuse to take any concrete action at the UN and all other international organizations but rather choose to remain quiet. It is very strange, considering the power Russia yields. And from a Serb prospective, it is quite scary. Its as if with their silence they want to silence the truth; but also make sure Thaci doesn't fall. There is a lot of duplicity in the attitude of the Serbs and the Russians. Their silence is eery.

First and foremost I am not a Thaci supporter nor did I ever vote for him. With that said Marty’s saying ‘This is nothing new’ is true in a sense that there is no new evidence; ICJY did an investigation, Serbia did their own investigation and there is no concrete evidence that these alleged organ trading occurred.
According to him and his report Albania, Kosovo, UNMIK, EULEX and any other groups (including intelligence services from the western countries) were not cooperative on the investigation or did not do enough to punish these crimes…okay, fine let’s assume for a second that’s true. If you Marty consider yourself a true investigator why do you focus so much on the source of these organs considering you have so many alleged roadblocks? Why don’t you focus on where these organs went and work yourself backwards…you indicate that the purpose of these organs was to be sold in the black market correct? They did not just vanish somewhere. So someone out there must’ve received these alleged traded organs. I’m sure other countries where these alleged body organs went will cooperate with you on this investigation. So stop making political statements and start doing some true investigation. Until then, in your own words ‘there is nothing new’.
In addition, the draft reported also noted that there are still more than a thousand ethnic Albanians missing; I wonder why Serbia is not being chastised for that on this report. Fishy, very fishy…

Both nationalities: Albanians and Serbian must know the truth, the real truth.
There have been crimes commited by Serbian officials against Albanians, as well some crimes from people identified with KLA aginst Serbians.
But here we have to take into account the propotionality of the war crimes.
Ok lets say 500 serbs killeed, everybody who did that should send in prison whoever is that guy. Also everybody know about 13000 Albanians killed from Serbian state during Milosevic regime.
Everybody who commited war crimes shoul be punished. Sociatey should go ahead and move beyond the politicans manipulation

"Finally, we arrived at the conclusion that these events were known to many intelligence services from many countries. This was known to the police, to a large number of people, who would privately say, 'yes, I am aware of that', but who, for the sake of political opportunism, would decide to remain silent," he continued.
"What has shocked me is that most facts in this report were known to a large
number of organisations"

My deepest congratulations that one more time you had the courage to say loud what all these dirty politicians are trying to hide from us! YOU definitely deserve a statue and all the possible medals, not people like Clinton, Attisari, Bliar, who without any doubts knew about these facts and hided it, hence accepting all sort of rewards from criminals.
Your way is certainly going to be harder from now on, without doubts you will face a lot of pressure, blackmail etc
but without any doubts you will succeed again.

Yes my Albanian friends, very soon we will find out who is telling the truth and who is lying. This is very good for the region so let the truth be known.

as i said yesterday still zero evidences only speculations. i give this report a maximum of 2 months to survive.

Unbelievable! Thaci is running around Kosovo after the bombing stops, doing a Freddy Krueger number, and the internationals, mainly the US under Madame Secretary Madeline Albright, looks the other way and puts her index finger to her closed lips for all to follow. Too bad her accomplice Holbrooke isn't here to enjoy this news too. But he would be very busy threatening Marti right now.

P.S. Marty has no clue what he has done, read the report and you will see why he is screwed, he mentioned names of people. Unless he can back them up he is ruined, professionally and financially--at least.
(Albanes, 16 December 2010 20:45)
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At least you hope he can't.
Marty is not stupid. He has done this sort of thing before and came out a winner.
What on earth makes you think that he is silly enough to claim something he cannot back up?

He is not Athisaari.

Who else has noticed the selective justice supporters are very quiet at the moment? I suppose this news doesn't fit in with their agenda.

What a fiasco on their part. :)

This report is eerily in synchronization with accusations stemming from your chief prosecutor. Add a Dick who has been against Kosovo's independence and you have yourself a case. See, I am not making assumptions. Pure logic ladies and gents. Dick, on the other hand, bases his facts on hearsay, himself admitting that he has no evidence per se. Let's see how long B92 can spin this story.

At least you hope he can't.
Marty is not stupid. He has done this sort of thing before and came out a winner.
What on earth makes you think that he is silly enough to claim something he cannot back up?

He is not Athisaari.
(Peggy, 16 December 2010 21:22)

No he is not Ahtisaari, that's why he will fail miserably to prove his report.

That is not a talking from a professional but from a commentator. His report is a political one and full of fictions. This guy soon will need to be checked mentally. He doesnt look all right anyway.
(EA, 16 December 2010 20:44)
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Yes Dr, EA. How clever of you to be able to spot mental illness so quickly.

" I believe that a future of a country cannot be built without truth, without insisting on truth and memory. There will never be peace between various communities if the principle of 'not wanting to know' continues," Marty warned."

Exactly that. Albanians who defend their 'hero' Thaci are not any better than Serbs defending their 'hero' Milosevic. Why don't they see that their leaders do more harm for Kosovo? Don't you think more countries would be willing to recognize Kosovo with a non corrupt government, based on people with clean hands?

Marty: Everyone knew about shocking crimes B92

Who knew the most of the story?

I bet Richard Holbrooke.

What about Madeleine Albright?

Our government is about to fail again. I hope Vladimir Vukčević will shut up a while and work faster + harder, he's not just payed- this is his moral obligation.

Also, as I said many times our secret services in cooperation with other structures and foreign factors should detain Kosovo Albanians, Albanian citizens, Israeli citizens and US citizens involved. It just doesn't matter how much it cost- 500 millions, billion or two. Big things are for big boys with a big "friends" and big weapons.

Vukcevic?

Marty?

I am skeptical about the final end of the story, there's "truth" and truth- truth about part of the subject or a whole subject. We achieved something from Kosovo and Presevo valley and some things fell (by luck) in our hands..

Lucky we are!

What about to use our "tourists", anesthesia and diplomatic luggage as the rest of "the normal world".

Move your asses while it's hot!

Both nationalities: Albanians and Serbian must know the truth, the real truth.
There have been crimes commited by Serbian officials against Albanians, as well some crimes from people identified with KLA aginst Serbians.
But here we have to take into account the propotionality of the war crimes.
Ok lets say 500 serbs killeed, everybody who did that should send in prison whoever is that guy. Also everybody know about 13000 Albanians killed from Serbian state during Milosevic regime.
Everybody who commited war crimes shoul be punished. Sociatey should go ahead and move beyond the politicans manipulation
(Noli, 16 December 2010 23:54)
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Obviously you're uneducated on the subject...that number you're mentioning of Serbs killing 13,000 Albanians...only about 3500 bodies have ever been found and that was DURING THE CONFLICT...the 400-700 Serbs which were butchered for organs were killed AFTER the war was over...you either fail to mention number of Serbs killed DURING the conflict because of your ignorance or because of your undieing love for albanians/hatred for serbs...

Serbia fired the last bullet; a bullet named Dick.

Mr Marty is identified as a man who has always opposed Kosovan independence, and is now collaborating with Serbia in a conspiracy to discourage any more countries from recognising Kosovo.

Only 72 of the 192 members of the UN have so far done so. The first task of the new government elected last Sunday will be to begin the much delayed discussions with Serbia on normalising relations, and officials in Pristina fear the ground is being prepared to make them more pliable.

A string of other "coincidences" are being put forward in the Kosovan capital, to explain the exact timing of Mr Marty's report. One idea doing the rounds in Pristina, is that if the government remains in firm denial, it has no choice but to sue Mr Marty for slander.

The European Union officials in both Brussels and Pristina have challenged the author of the report to come up with his evidence.

"The ball is in Mr Marty's court now," said one Pristina source.

At least you hope he can't.
Marty is not stupid. He has done this sort of thing before and came out a winner.
What on earth makes you think that he is silly enough to claim something he cannot back up?

He is not Athisaari.
(Peggy, 16 December 2010 21:22)

Peggy
I want my PM tried and punished if such accusations will proven to be true. However I must ask you a professional question to you since I know you live in Australia and you most certainly are more in touch with modern achievements of technology. What I wonder is: Have you heard of any case (legally) where pulled organ can be pulled out of donor's body and be safely transported via air to receiver's body? If Yes I would appreciate you posting a link, because all I know so far is that willing donor and receiver have to be in the same clinic for the transplantation to take place. If this is possible now and was possible in 1999 then I am all for Thaci be investigated and face the court.
Two medical experts so far one from Albania and one from Serbia (his last name Stankovic) have denied this as possibility.

Recipients include Canadians, Germans and Israelis. ...

Finally, we arrived at the conclusion that these events were known to many intelligence services from many countries. This was known to the police, to a large number of people, who would privately say, 'yes, I am aware of that', but who, for the sake of political opportunism, would decide to remain silent," he continued.

You mean to the people from serbia who where catch in video for trying to buy witneses regarding this case you know the car they drive still sits in parking at the KPS parking lot ..I dont know maybe some of you forget about that

Their silence is eery.
(johny, 16 December 2010 22:44)
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Huh? You're not making sense johny.

"Have you heard of any case (legally) where pulled organ can be pulled out of donor's body and be safely transported via air to receiver's body? If Yes I would appreciate you posting a link, because all I know so far is that willing donor and receiver have to be in the same clinic for the transplantation to take place. If this is possible now and was possible in 1999 then I am all for Thaci be investigated and face the court.
Two medical experts so far one from Albania and one from Serbia (his last name Stankovic) have denied this as possibility.
(Simpatiku, 17 December 2010 13:34) "

Transporting organs is done all the time - a standard scene in police and medical TV shows is a helicopter landing on the roof of a hospital with a technician racing toward the operating room with what looks like a picnic cooler in his hand. When an organ-donor dies, his organs may be sent all over the country in different directions - eyes to one recipient, heart to another, etc. They've been doing this for years, maybe decades. Note the 3rd bullet point on the linked page http://www.unos.org/donation/index.php?topic=organ_allocation: one of the functions of the Organ Center is to "assist with transportation of organs and tissues for the purposes of transplantation."

The doctors you quoted obviously didn't realize that the victims were dead at the time of organ removal - without the requirement for anesthesia and constant monitoring, the removal process becomes elementary.

On a related note, if you live in the States, consider checking the "Organ Donor" box on the form when you renew your license to allow your organs to benefit someone else after your death. (I don't know how they handle the process in other countries.) There's always a need.

Too bad her accomplice Holbrooke isn't here to enjoy this news too. But he would be very busy threatening Marti right now.
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You got it. Holbrooke got off fairly easy to be blunt. He is just as guilty as Thaci is, in regards to the organ traficking. The drug traficking is a whole other ball-game, thats about to come out. Kind of strange this man just disapeared (died), from the scene right when the pot started to boil.