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Wednesday, 15.12.2010.

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"Communist crimes not equal to Holocaust"

Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) Bishop Irinej says he is against any equating of the German Nazi crimes with those committed by communists in former Yugoslavia.

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Mike

pre 10 godina

On the basis of preliminary secret agreement in August 1939 to divide Europe between Nazi Germany and the Russian Communist Empire (USSR) and by invading Poland the Second World War was launched jointly by imperialist Nazi Germany on September 1, 1939 and by the imperialist Soviet Union on September 17, 1939. Then new invasions and occupations by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union (Russian Communist Empire) followed in Europe divided between the dictatorial regimes of Hitler and Stalin. Were not both of these regimes responsible for the outbreak and extreme horrors of the Second World War as both regimes sought world conquest ultimately?

I’ve discovered some new information on the Internet that Soviet dictator Stalin planned a war against Germany for early July 1941 and stationed a huge amount of Soviet troops and armaments at the USSR’s Western border. Did the Stalin’s regime therefore provoke Hitler (because of its military threat to Germany) to attack the Soviet Union first? I hope access to secret archives will reveal true facts. A well-known fact is that the Hitler’s regime was first to attack the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941.

Mike

pre 10 godina

The biggest crimes of the 20th century in Europe were committed by both the Soviet communist and Nazi Germany regimes that sought world conquest and domination (dozens of millions of people of many nationalities were exterminated).
Do not forget that Russia was the first country where communists came to power in 1917. After the Second World War the Soviet Union (Russian Communist Empire) installed communist regimes in European countries occupied by the Soviet Army, and promoted the spread of communist regimes worldwide. Soviet communist regime sought world communist conquest and domination. It was a great fortune that the Cuban missile crisis between the Soviet Union and the USA did not lead to a nuclear World War 3 in 1962. North Korea and politically China and Cuba still remain Communist countries.
Communist crimes worldwide greatly surpass Nazi German crimes and crimes of their allies and collaborators.
Communist crimes committed worldwide must also be prosecuted and punished as Nazi crimes have been. Truth and real justice (punishment for all crimes) must prevail.

The issue of financial and material compensations for communist crimes especially by Russia as the birthplace of communist power must also be resolved as Germany paid compensations for Nazi German crimes to many nations including Jews for the Holocaust.

Srpski Partisan

pre 12 godina

The Nazis believed in killing as part of their political views. The communists in Yugoslavia did not kill as part of their views. The only people killed by the Yugoslav communists were the Nazis,Ustasha and any other nationalist extremeists.

"Communist Crimes" should not be equated with Nazi.

sj

pre 13 godina

The Nazis killed people because of a race-based ideology, the Communists' ideology was class-based. That was somehow better?
(Amer, 15 December 2010 20:27)

In fact it should read Nazis killed because of race-based ideology, the communist because of classed-based ideology and the capitalists due to resource-based ideology. All have blood on their hands.

Je¿ amerikañski

pre 13 godina

BTW,you've already forgotten our discussion of the 2nd Amendment and my right to bear arms?
(Amer, 16 December 2010 00:01)

Tsk, tsk - I passed my citizenship exam, now you have to keep the secret of that seniority moment with #2 versus #8. Otherwise who knows - they at Homeland Security will take away my passport...

I am under special surveillance already. After 911 my friend brought a large crab from Vietnam and my parents a suitcase of salami from Hungary. Of course not just everything was confiscated - now we all are under special watch. An other problem is, my friend looks like 20 years less than her age and regardless of her three children. Good opportunity for the Homeland Security to pat that "Vietcong" chick EVERYWHERE they like. And they DO like it. :(

I witnessed myself and made some comments about it to the perpetrator (a fat hisp**ic guy!) but she just took my hand and pulled away from the brewing trouble. The fairytale about "same gender patting" is just a fairytale. They get huge crowd, in particular during trade-shows in Vegas and obviously some "patters" enjoy there what they can't get at home. :(

Amer

pre 13 godina

"I can rob you at the gun point every day and have a free dinner using your money.
(Je¿ ideologiczny, 15 December 2010 22:19)"

Killing the "evil other" so that the "good" can prosper is simply evil, whether it's Red or Brown.

BTW,you've already forgotten our discussion of the 2nd Amendment and my right to bear arms? I'm a peaceable person and don't go around loaded down with firearms, so you could probably get one dinner out of me. But every day??

Je¿ ideologiczny

pre 13 godina

That was somehow better?
(Amer, 15 December 2010 20:27)

One killed DESPITE his ideology.
One killed BECAUSE of his ideology.

There is some difference. The victims did not feel much difference tough.

One ideology is fundamentally wrong contradicting human psychology.
One ideology is fundamentally wrong contradicting human morale.

More.

My ideology is wrong if it is based on expectation, you donate money for my dinner every day.

My ideology is wrong if it is based on expectation, I can rob you at the gun point every day and have a free dinner using your money.

johny

pre 13 godina

Who is actually Serbia's president, or foreign minster. Is it this priest or those who claim to be. This guy seems to have more political duties in Serbia than actual politicians.
What happened nobody in Serbia sinned this past week; that make a priest become a politician and a historian? Someone is confusing his mandate.

Shock trooper in a stupor

pre 13 godina

Glad to see this man is objective and doesn't yield into the latest pressure to equal nazi and communist crimes.

Shock trooper in a stupor

pre 13 godina

Glad to see this man is objective and doesn't yield into the latest pressure to equal nazi and communist crimes.

johny

pre 13 godina

Who is actually Serbia's president, or foreign minster. Is it this priest or those who claim to be. This guy seems to have more political duties in Serbia than actual politicians.
What happened nobody in Serbia sinned this past week; that make a priest become a politician and a historian? Someone is confusing his mandate.

sj

pre 13 godina

The Nazis killed people because of a race-based ideology, the Communists' ideology was class-based. That was somehow better?
(Amer, 15 December 2010 20:27)

In fact it should read Nazis killed because of race-based ideology, the communist because of classed-based ideology and the capitalists due to resource-based ideology. All have blood on their hands.

Je¿ ideologiczny

pre 13 godina

That was somehow better?
(Amer, 15 December 2010 20:27)

One killed DESPITE his ideology.
One killed BECAUSE of his ideology.

There is some difference. The victims did not feel much difference tough.

One ideology is fundamentally wrong contradicting human psychology.
One ideology is fundamentally wrong contradicting human morale.

More.

My ideology is wrong if it is based on expectation, you donate money for my dinner every day.

My ideology is wrong if it is based on expectation, I can rob you at the gun point every day and have a free dinner using your money.

Srpski Partisan

pre 12 godina

The Nazis believed in killing as part of their political views. The communists in Yugoslavia did not kill as part of their views. The only people killed by the Yugoslav communists were the Nazis,Ustasha and any other nationalist extremeists.

"Communist Crimes" should not be equated with Nazi.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"I can rob you at the gun point every day and have a free dinner using your money.
(Je¿ ideologiczny, 15 December 2010 22:19)"

Killing the "evil other" so that the "good" can prosper is simply evil, whether it's Red or Brown.

BTW,you've already forgotten our discussion of the 2nd Amendment and my right to bear arms? I'm a peaceable person and don't go around loaded down with firearms, so you could probably get one dinner out of me. But every day??

Je¿ amerikañski

pre 13 godina

BTW,you've already forgotten our discussion of the 2nd Amendment and my right to bear arms?
(Amer, 16 December 2010 00:01)

Tsk, tsk - I passed my citizenship exam, now you have to keep the secret of that seniority moment with #2 versus #8. Otherwise who knows - they at Homeland Security will take away my passport...

I am under special surveillance already. After 911 my friend brought a large crab from Vietnam and my parents a suitcase of salami from Hungary. Of course not just everything was confiscated - now we all are under special watch. An other problem is, my friend looks like 20 years less than her age and regardless of her three children. Good opportunity for the Homeland Security to pat that "Vietcong" chick EVERYWHERE they like. And they DO like it. :(

I witnessed myself and made some comments about it to the perpetrator (a fat hisp**ic guy!) but she just took my hand and pulled away from the brewing trouble. The fairytale about "same gender patting" is just a fairytale. They get huge crowd, in particular during trade-shows in Vegas and obviously some "patters" enjoy there what they can't get at home. :(

Mike

pre 10 godina

The biggest crimes of the 20th century in Europe were committed by both the Soviet communist and Nazi Germany regimes that sought world conquest and domination (dozens of millions of people of many nationalities were exterminated).
Do not forget that Russia was the first country where communists came to power in 1917. After the Second World War the Soviet Union (Russian Communist Empire) installed communist regimes in European countries occupied by the Soviet Army, and promoted the spread of communist regimes worldwide. Soviet communist regime sought world communist conquest and domination. It was a great fortune that the Cuban missile crisis between the Soviet Union and the USA did not lead to a nuclear World War 3 in 1962. North Korea and politically China and Cuba still remain Communist countries.
Communist crimes worldwide greatly surpass Nazi German crimes and crimes of their allies and collaborators.
Communist crimes committed worldwide must also be prosecuted and punished as Nazi crimes have been. Truth and real justice (punishment for all crimes) must prevail.

The issue of financial and material compensations for communist crimes especially by Russia as the birthplace of communist power must also be resolved as Germany paid compensations for Nazi German crimes to many nations including Jews for the Holocaust.

Mike

pre 10 godina

On the basis of preliminary secret agreement in August 1939 to divide Europe between Nazi Germany and the Russian Communist Empire (USSR) and by invading Poland the Second World War was launched jointly by imperialist Nazi Germany on September 1, 1939 and by the imperialist Soviet Union on September 17, 1939. Then new invasions and occupations by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union (Russian Communist Empire) followed in Europe divided between the dictatorial regimes of Hitler and Stalin. Were not both of these regimes responsible for the outbreak and extreme horrors of the Second World War as both regimes sought world conquest ultimately?

I’ve discovered some new information on the Internet that Soviet dictator Stalin planned a war against Germany for early July 1941 and stationed a huge amount of Soviet troops and armaments at the USSR’s Western border. Did the Stalin’s regime therefore provoke Hitler (because of its military threat to Germany) to attack the Soviet Union first? I hope access to secret archives will reveal true facts. A well-known fact is that the Hitler’s regime was first to attack the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941.

Shock trooper in a stupor

pre 13 godina

Glad to see this man is objective and doesn't yield into the latest pressure to equal nazi and communist crimes.

Srpski Partisan

pre 12 godina

The Nazis believed in killing as part of their political views. The communists in Yugoslavia did not kill as part of their views. The only people killed by the Yugoslav communists were the Nazis,Ustasha and any other nationalist extremeists.

"Communist Crimes" should not be equated with Nazi.

johny

pre 13 godina

Who is actually Serbia's president, or foreign minster. Is it this priest or those who claim to be. This guy seems to have more political duties in Serbia than actual politicians.
What happened nobody in Serbia sinned this past week; that make a priest become a politician and a historian? Someone is confusing his mandate.

Je¿ ideologiczny

pre 13 godina

That was somehow better?
(Amer, 15 December 2010 20:27)

One killed DESPITE his ideology.
One killed BECAUSE of his ideology.

There is some difference. The victims did not feel much difference tough.

One ideology is fundamentally wrong contradicting human psychology.
One ideology is fundamentally wrong contradicting human morale.

More.

My ideology is wrong if it is based on expectation, you donate money for my dinner every day.

My ideology is wrong if it is based on expectation, I can rob you at the gun point every day and have a free dinner using your money.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"I can rob you at the gun point every day and have a free dinner using your money.
(Je¿ ideologiczny, 15 December 2010 22:19)"

Killing the "evil other" so that the "good" can prosper is simply evil, whether it's Red or Brown.

BTW,you've already forgotten our discussion of the 2nd Amendment and my right to bear arms? I'm a peaceable person and don't go around loaded down with firearms, so you could probably get one dinner out of me. But every day??

Je¿ amerikañski

pre 13 godina

BTW,you've already forgotten our discussion of the 2nd Amendment and my right to bear arms?
(Amer, 16 December 2010 00:01)

Tsk, tsk - I passed my citizenship exam, now you have to keep the secret of that seniority moment with #2 versus #8. Otherwise who knows - they at Homeland Security will take away my passport...

I am under special surveillance already. After 911 my friend brought a large crab from Vietnam and my parents a suitcase of salami from Hungary. Of course not just everything was confiscated - now we all are under special watch. An other problem is, my friend looks like 20 years less than her age and regardless of her three children. Good opportunity for the Homeland Security to pat that "Vietcong" chick EVERYWHERE they like. And they DO like it. :(

I witnessed myself and made some comments about it to the perpetrator (a fat hisp**ic guy!) but she just took my hand and pulled away from the brewing trouble. The fairytale about "same gender patting" is just a fairytale. They get huge crowd, in particular during trade-shows in Vegas and obviously some "patters" enjoy there what they can't get at home. :(

sj

pre 13 godina

The Nazis killed people because of a race-based ideology, the Communists' ideology was class-based. That was somehow better?
(Amer, 15 December 2010 20:27)

In fact it should read Nazis killed because of race-based ideology, the communist because of classed-based ideology and the capitalists due to resource-based ideology. All have blood on their hands.

Mike

pre 10 godina

The biggest crimes of the 20th century in Europe were committed by both the Soviet communist and Nazi Germany regimes that sought world conquest and domination (dozens of millions of people of many nationalities were exterminated).
Do not forget that Russia was the first country where communists came to power in 1917. After the Second World War the Soviet Union (Russian Communist Empire) installed communist regimes in European countries occupied by the Soviet Army, and promoted the spread of communist regimes worldwide. Soviet communist regime sought world communist conquest and domination. It was a great fortune that the Cuban missile crisis between the Soviet Union and the USA did not lead to a nuclear World War 3 in 1962. North Korea and politically China and Cuba still remain Communist countries.
Communist crimes worldwide greatly surpass Nazi German crimes and crimes of their allies and collaborators.
Communist crimes committed worldwide must also be prosecuted and punished as Nazi crimes have been. Truth and real justice (punishment for all crimes) must prevail.

The issue of financial and material compensations for communist crimes especially by Russia as the birthplace of communist power must also be resolved as Germany paid compensations for Nazi German crimes to many nations including Jews for the Holocaust.

Mike

pre 10 godina

On the basis of preliminary secret agreement in August 1939 to divide Europe between Nazi Germany and the Russian Communist Empire (USSR) and by invading Poland the Second World War was launched jointly by imperialist Nazi Germany on September 1, 1939 and by the imperialist Soviet Union on September 17, 1939. Then new invasions and occupations by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union (Russian Communist Empire) followed in Europe divided between the dictatorial regimes of Hitler and Stalin. Were not both of these regimes responsible for the outbreak and extreme horrors of the Second World War as both regimes sought world conquest ultimately?

I’ve discovered some new information on the Internet that Soviet dictator Stalin planned a war against Germany for early July 1941 and stationed a huge amount of Soviet troops and armaments at the USSR’s Western border. Did the Stalin’s regime therefore provoke Hitler (because of its military threat to Germany) to attack the Soviet Union first? I hope access to secret archives will reveal true facts. A well-known fact is that the Hitler’s regime was first to attack the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941.