"Elections should be held in north as well"

"Elections should be held in north as well"

Is this a surprise??!!

Do you guys know that more Serbian political subjects/parties are taking part in independent Kosovo elections than Albanians.

Even though the minority Serbs make up ONLY 3% of total population they seem more interested in these election than the majority 95% Albanians. So North wants to integrate peacefully by camouflaging behind elections.

Even the so called minister for "Kosovo" in Serbian govern openly said "we will respect those that participate in independent Kosovo elections with aim of helpin Serbian community."

Interesting times ahead...

What's the incentive for participating in a program that's connected to an overall election campaign where EULEX officials state they will not arrest anyone running for office with a criminal record or criminal connection? Why participate in a system where corruption is endemic from top to bottom? I see absolutely nothing Mitrovica could gain from associating with Pristina.

PRN,

Serbs in Kosovo will never be "Kosovars" and they do not want to have anything to do with the thugs in the temporary institutions or the failed project called "Kosova". For some reason this has still net set into your mind.

The leaders of the Dec 12 elections will have the full backing of Pristina and the international community, and these people will be able to look out for the interests of the community.
(KOSO)
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What international community? The falling EU or America?... Do you even follow the news outside your box?

The fact that future powers are investing in Serbia is good enough. Who cares how many recognitions you get, these recognitions are only to keep your people calm while you get stripped of all the humanity you have left. Even IF you had the majority of the world recognizing you, do you think that would change anything?

You have already been officially blocked into entering EU, and the UN.... you are only welcome in NATO... fine go ahead fight mother America's war, send your children to fight a lost fight like you have already done for the past 150 years. These things do not effect Serbia at all, in fact these things are protecting Serbia's investements.

"The leaders of the Dec 12 elections will have the full backing of Pristina and the international community, and these people will be able to look out for the interests of the community." (KOSO)

-- Terribly sorry, but "full backing of Pristina" means absolutely nothing. In fact it's probably better at this point not to have any connection to Pristina given the high levels of corruption and cronyism. As for the international community, the rhetoric surrounding "parallel institutions" is just that: rhetoric. Nothing is being done to remove these so-called "parallel institutions", and in my opinion it seems pretty likely the Belgrade-backed institutions will form the core of what probably will be a self-administered sector of Kosovo after all is said and done. Right now, keeping any and all attempts by Pristina to cross the Ibar and embed itself up north is, in my opinion, the best way these institutions are "looking out for the interests of the community." There is absolutely nothing Pristina can offer Mitrovica that its not already getting from Belgrade except cuts to power and phone lines.

(PRN, 3 December 2010 14:44)

Yes, we know that the forces of light are winning against the Serbs and if you return to the same channel same time next week we will continue the fight against the dark one.
Yes ladies and gentlemen this radio broadcast has been brought to by the Pepsi cola company so stay tuned for more of PRN after this short break.

Mike,

a key reason would be that the local Serb leaders could accomplish more through a legitimate office than through the parallel institutions. The leaders of the Dec 12 elections will have the full backing of Pristina and the international community, and these people will be able to look out for the interests of the community.

Your comment is interesting Mike. I'll go through it.

"Terribly sorry, but "full backing of Pristina" means absolutely nothing. In fact it's probably better at this point not to have any connection to Pristina given the high levels of corruption and cronyism."

-- Despite your negative view in this post (see how Jeremic became a minister in Serbia because his dad is friends with Tadic) your post is not entirely correct.

1. There's plenty of corruption and cronyism in the north (where Serbs live). In fact those in the north are quite often in open and rough conflicts with each other; stealing seals and often sabotaging each other.

2. The north (where Serbs live) also has a very active criminal element.
3. The north(where Serbs live) is also known for violent acts and crimes, such burning of buildings, car bombs and throwing of hand grenades.

So the north(where Serbs live) is way more messy that you'd like to portray it.

Your comment is also not entirely correct for reasons which I'll explain below.

"As for the international community, the rhetoric surrounding "parallel institutions" is just that: rhetoric. Nothing is being done to remove these so-called "parallel institutions", and in my opinion it seems pretty likely the Belgrade-backed institutions will form the core of what probably will be a self-administered sector of Kosovo after all is said and done."

-- While that is mist possibly the case, you are overlooking a few things here.

Have you ever considered that the international community is using these "parallel instiutions" as one of their bargaining chips and allow their existence on purpose. It really doesn't take too much effort to get rid off them. By their standards Serbs only make up a small neighborhood in one of their cities.

I may not be entirely right but to me it seems transparent that that is what seems to be the plan. Let the fools in Belgrade cool of for a couple of years. Then when they need money to survive you feed them in drops; keep them alive. After the clowns have cooled off you make a few promises (EU) and give them the illusion that it is achievable in the not so far future. Once they've swallowed this carrot and they've cooled off; its time to make the puppets obey. You use your bargaining chips. That is if you want EU you do as we say and we might throw in another carrots. So doing what they say means doing what the likes of US, UK, France, and Germany say. Meaning you recognize Kosova as an independent state and not only we open the road to the EU but we will legitimize those parallel institution by making them self-administered sectors. I believe this seems to be the deal that will be offered and it seems to be a take it or leave it deal; like the one offered for the Serbs in Croatia. I think it will take probably another 10 years before its put on the table.

"Right now, keeping any and all attempts by Pristina to cross the Ibar and embed itself up north is, in my opinion, the best way these institutions are "looking out for the interests of the community." There is absolutely nothing Pristina can offer Mitrovica that its not already getting from Belgrade except cuts to power and phone lines."


-- This part is also interesting. Because you state something very obvious. Something you certainly do not agree with but which is a fact. I'll state it like you did. There is absolutely nothing Belgrade can offer to Kosova that it is not getting from the US and EU, except for war, violence and endless discrimination. So similarly to the conclusion you reached; keeping any and all attempts by Belgrade to cross the Iber and embed itself in our institutions is, in my opinion and most of us I would say, the best way Prishtina is looking for the interest of the community.

@(johny)
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When have the Serbs caused instability in Kosovo recently or anytime in the North?
(trudsaam, 5 December 2010 00:26)

The Serbs in the North are to us what you consider us to be to you. That may not sit well with you, but whatever.

PRN,

Mind that Albanians in Serbia are only a small minority! And yes, Kosovo still is part of Serbia. Check 1244. It is still valild!

@(johny)
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When have the Serbs caused instability in Kosovo recently or anytime in the North?

@ icj1
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Veto.

@(johny)
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When have the Serbs caused instability in Kosovo recently or anytime in the North?
(trudsaam, 5 December 2010 00:26)

The Serbs in the North are to us what you consider us to be to you. That may not sit well with you, but whatever.
(johny)
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I dont think there is one Serb out there who cares what is thought about them by the Albanians.

Secondly, you didnt answer my question of "when". (because there is no "when")

We see numerous articles every month pop up based on Albanian violence towards Serbs. This may not sit with you well, but whatever.

You have already been officially blocked into entering EU, and the UN.... (trudsaam, 4 December 2010 00:12)

Could you please reference the official documents of the UN and EU which blocked Kosovo's membership to these organizations ?

"Elections should be held in north as well"

Is this a surprise??!!

Do you guys know that more Serbian political subjects/parties are taking part in independent Kosovo elections than Albanians.

Even though the minority Serbs make up ONLY 3% of total population they seem more interested in these election than the majority 95% Albanians. So North wants to integrate peacefully by camouflaging behind elections.

Even the so called minister for "Kosovo" in Serbian govern openly said "we will respect those that participate in independent Kosovo elections with aim of helpin Serbian community."

Interesting times ahead...

Mike,

a key reason would be that the local Serb leaders could accomplish more through a legitimate office than through the parallel institutions. The leaders of the Dec 12 elections will have the full backing of Pristina and the international community, and these people will be able to look out for the interests of the community.

PRN,

Serbs in Kosovo will never be "Kosovars" and they do not want to have anything to do with the thugs in the temporary institutions or the failed project called "Kosova". For some reason this has still net set into your mind.

What's the incentive for participating in a program that's connected to an overall election campaign where EULEX officials state they will not arrest anyone running for office with a criminal record or criminal connection? Why participate in a system where corruption is endemic from top to bottom? I see absolutely nothing Mitrovica could gain from associating with Pristina.

PRN,

Mind that Albanians in Serbia are only a small minority! And yes, Kosovo still is part of Serbia. Check 1244. It is still valild!

The leaders of the Dec 12 elections will have the full backing of Pristina and the international community, and these people will be able to look out for the interests of the community.
(KOSO)
-
What international community? The falling EU or America?... Do you even follow the news outside your box?

The fact that future powers are investing in Serbia is good enough. Who cares how many recognitions you get, these recognitions are only to keep your people calm while you get stripped of all the humanity you have left. Even IF you had the majority of the world recognizing you, do you think that would change anything?

You have already been officially blocked into entering EU, and the UN.... you are only welcome in NATO... fine go ahead fight mother America's war, send your children to fight a lost fight like you have already done for the past 150 years. These things do not effect Serbia at all, in fact these things are protecting Serbia's investements.

"The leaders of the Dec 12 elections will have the full backing of Pristina and the international community, and these people will be able to look out for the interests of the community." (KOSO)

-- Terribly sorry, but "full backing of Pristina" means absolutely nothing. In fact it's probably better at this point not to have any connection to Pristina given the high levels of corruption and cronyism. As for the international community, the rhetoric surrounding "parallel institutions" is just that: rhetoric. Nothing is being done to remove these so-called "parallel institutions", and in my opinion it seems pretty likely the Belgrade-backed institutions will form the core of what probably will be a self-administered sector of Kosovo after all is said and done. Right now, keeping any and all attempts by Pristina to cross the Ibar and embed itself up north is, in my opinion, the best way these institutions are "looking out for the interests of the community." There is absolutely nothing Pristina can offer Mitrovica that its not already getting from Belgrade except cuts to power and phone lines.

(PRN, 3 December 2010 14:44)

Yes, we know that the forces of light are winning against the Serbs and if you return to the same channel same time next week we will continue the fight against the dark one.
Yes ladies and gentlemen this radio broadcast has been brought to by the Pepsi cola company so stay tuned for more of PRN after this short break.

@(johny)
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When have the Serbs caused instability in Kosovo recently or anytime in the North?

@(johny)
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When have the Serbs caused instability in Kosovo recently or anytime in the North?
(trudsaam, 5 December 2010 00:26)

The Serbs in the North are to us what you consider us to be to you. That may not sit well with you, but whatever.

You have already been officially blocked into entering EU, and the UN.... (trudsaam, 4 December 2010 00:12)

Could you please reference the official documents of the UN and EU which blocked Kosovo's membership to these organizations ?

Your comment is interesting Mike. I'll go through it.

"Terribly sorry, but "full backing of Pristina" means absolutely nothing. In fact it's probably better at this point not to have any connection to Pristina given the high levels of corruption and cronyism."

-- Despite your negative view in this post (see how Jeremic became a minister in Serbia because his dad is friends with Tadic) your post is not entirely correct.

1. There's plenty of corruption and cronyism in the north (where Serbs live). In fact those in the north are quite often in open and rough conflicts with each other; stealing seals and often sabotaging each other.

2. The north (where Serbs live) also has a very active criminal element.
3. The north(where Serbs live) is also known for violent acts and crimes, such burning of buildings, car bombs and throwing of hand grenades.

So the north(where Serbs live) is way more messy that you'd like to portray it.

Your comment is also not entirely correct for reasons which I'll explain below.

"As for the international community, the rhetoric surrounding "parallel institutions" is just that: rhetoric. Nothing is being done to remove these so-called "parallel institutions", and in my opinion it seems pretty likely the Belgrade-backed institutions will form the core of what probably will be a self-administered sector of Kosovo after all is said and done."

-- While that is mist possibly the case, you are overlooking a few things here.

Have you ever considered that the international community is using these "parallel instiutions" as one of their bargaining chips and allow their existence on purpose. It really doesn't take too much effort to get rid off them. By their standards Serbs only make up a small neighborhood in one of their cities.

I may not be entirely right but to me it seems transparent that that is what seems to be the plan. Let the fools in Belgrade cool of for a couple of years. Then when they need money to survive you feed them in drops; keep them alive. After the clowns have cooled off you make a few promises (EU) and give them the illusion that it is achievable in the not so far future. Once they've swallowed this carrot and they've cooled off; its time to make the puppets obey. You use your bargaining chips. That is if you want EU you do as we say and we might throw in another carrots. So doing what they say means doing what the likes of US, UK, France, and Germany say. Meaning you recognize Kosova as an independent state and not only we open the road to the EU but we will legitimize those parallel institution by making them self-administered sectors. I believe this seems to be the deal that will be offered and it seems to be a take it or leave it deal; like the one offered for the Serbs in Croatia. I think it will take probably another 10 years before its put on the table.

"Right now, keeping any and all attempts by Pristina to cross the Ibar and embed itself up north is, in my opinion, the best way these institutions are "looking out for the interests of the community." There is absolutely nothing Pristina can offer Mitrovica that its not already getting from Belgrade except cuts to power and phone lines."


-- This part is also interesting. Because you state something very obvious. Something you certainly do not agree with but which is a fact. I'll state it like you did. There is absolutely nothing Belgrade can offer to Kosova that it is not getting from the US and EU, except for war, violence and endless discrimination. So similarly to the conclusion you reached; keeping any and all attempts by Belgrade to cross the Iber and embed itself in our institutions is, in my opinion and most of us I would say, the best way Prishtina is looking for the interest of the community.

@ icj1
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Veto.

@(johny)
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When have the Serbs caused instability in Kosovo recently or anytime in the North?
(trudsaam, 5 December 2010 00:26)

The Serbs in the North are to us what you consider us to be to you. That may not sit well with you, but whatever.
(johny)
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I dont think there is one Serb out there who cares what is thought about them by the Albanians.

Secondly, you didnt answer my question of "when". (because there is no "when")

We see numerous articles every month pop up based on Albanian violence towards Serbs. This may not sit with you well, but whatever.