"Ian I still don't understand your point. This survey was not a scientific one for a socialogical research paper or referendum.
This was an ordinary opinion poll with the sample size in keeping with those made in the UK with the question 'if there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for?'.
Of course there is room for error even if the question is fairly formulated, but usually not much.
Statistician is correct on this and sounds like he / she knows what they are talking about. If you criticise this poll then on the same basis you must criticise all opinion polls which are typically of this size.
So your point is, perhaps that you don't agree with the findings. Well, just say it, because you look a bit silly on your high horse claiming the standard isn't good enough...
bganon"
If you want to argue about semantics then the survey may be right.
But, the issue here is if then survey represents the opinion of the entire population of Macedonia.
It certainly does not. It represents the opinion of the age groups surveyed in that particular region.
If I surveyed 1000 people in Belgrade and asked them how they feel about EU then do you think their opinions represent the opinion of the entire country? Or if I asked the same question to 1000 villagers somewhere in Serbia?
To Yugo-nostalgics - get over it.
Serbs, for one, would never again want to live in any Yugoslavia.
Nik said that Macedonians of today would want Serbs to return. Are yhou Macedonian?
Serbs aren't coming back. We don't have intrst in Macedona.
Any control we had is been transferd to Bulgaria even as we loose money.
2 yrs ago Macedon Airspace control is been transferd from Belgrade to Bulgarian air trafic authority. NOw they make money of any flight over Macedonia.
But,is best for us. What is our intrst in Macedonia?
Similar surveys in eastern Germany show a significant number of persons who miss the good old "German Democratic Republic". They felt safer there, had a job, and so on. Of course the surveys don't include questions like "Do you prefer to wait 15 years for a Trabant, or to buy a VW immediately" or "Do you prefer to spend the salary of one full year for buying a color TV or getting a huge flatscreen for €500"
(Top, 26 November 2010 11:08)
Right, if about cars.. When it comes to general stuff- real life, survival or basic food the things are totaly different.
One thing is critical for survey (especially this one)and that's mentioned before- the age of the participants. We speak about very critical subject for all "Macedonian" citizens.
If you ask only FYROM teenagers, the answer would be 95% - NO. I believe that.
There is no doubt that Macedonians lived in tito,s yugoslavia beyer than ever before or since. But at a price. A change of identity and a believe in such a fantastic version of history. This makes thee their integration in EU close to impossible. In 1913 Macedonians and Albanians reveled together against the Serbian obviously awaiting the Bulgarian army. Today people like Macedon wait for the Serbs to return. "
Similar surveys in eastern Germany show a significant number of persons who miss the good old "German Democratic Republic". They felt safer there, had a job, and so on. Of course the surveys don't include questions like "Do you prefer to wait 15 years for a Trabant, or to buy a VW immediately" or "Do you prefer to spend the salary of one full year for buying a color TV or getting a huge flatscreen for €500"
@Zmaj:
Even if you are entitled to your opinions can you keep your temper under control all because when I read your comments I've noticed that you punctuated them with exclamation marks.
(The Confesser, 26 November 2010 01:08)
Wow man,
Don't take it so serious!!!!
IT IS impossible for someone to come out trough the screen and put the finger in your eye!!!! At most feeling of sulphur (S) or some acidity can be "present" at some comments... But those are not exclamation marked or almost never.
@Zmaj:
Even if you are entitled to your opinions can you keep your temper under control all because when I read your comments I've noticed that you punctuated them with exclamation marks.
Of course they miss YU when back in those days you sat around preaching in the street that Tito is a wonderful statesman. By doing this you get a wonderful office governement job doing absolute nothing but highly piad. To many people in high places coming from an un-educated peasant background.
On the contrary...
(johny, 25 November 2010 21:53)
On the contrary - what?
If you do this- we'll do that and we can do this if you try that................., bla, bla, bla.................., every day the same parrot repeating.
The Western resurces are over. Everything you "done" was done by others and everything you really have is miserable unclear position. The solid earth under your feet belongs to the others and your motherland is laying under the German garbage. What will you do, poor people?
Ian I still don't understand your point. This survey was not a scientific one for a socialogical research paper or referendum.
This was an ordinary opinion poll with the sample size in keeping with those made in the UK with the question 'if there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for?'.
Of course there is room for error even if the question is fairly formulated, but usually not much.
Statistician is correct on this and sounds like he / she knows what they are talking about. If you criticise this poll then on the same basis you must criticise all opinion polls which are typically of this size.
So your point is, perhaps that you don't agree with the findings. Well, just say it, because you look a bit silly on your high horse claiming the standard isn't good enough...
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
(macedon, 25 November 2010 19:06)
Don't you think we have lesser Albanians than it really looks., lesser Americans, Serbs, Englishman... Or Macedonians?!
If yes, what's going on and who the hell they are?!
If no, how comes double-triple (and so on..) commentators are coming from the same IP address?
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
(macedon, 25 November 2010 19:06)
Macedon since you seem to believe we're scared; why don't you go ahead and join Serbia then? What is stopping you? Why are lacking the courage to go ahead? One word of caution though. This scenario would leave us with a great opening and a great opportunity. Before you even think of joining Serbia, you have to be 100% sure you can do it without splitting. On the contrary, you even mulling this idea opens up the possibility of Macedonia's splitting. You'll have those who want to join like yourself and those who don't wanna. Conflict will ensue. How sure are you that the end result of this conflict would be an intact Macedonia inside Serbia rather than a split Macedonia inside Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania and even Greece?
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
well ian,
you're really talking about the overall reliability of surveys, and not a specific one. Certaily it is abundantly clear to those that understand statistics and surveying in order to gather statistics, that it is easy to manipulate them.
That is a totally different issue, than the sample size.
Simply put, the numbers that I've provided you are statisically based numbers, and are mathematically accurate. Socialogically speaking, a survey's validity comes from the lack of bias in the questioning, and a bias in the sample set (ie specified age ranges in this case -- but to be fair, excluding minors is completely reasonable considering they do not have an official opinion, where as cutting off the upper range at 55 might be of concern.
# ian,
unfortuanetly, unless the specific wording of the survey contains a bias, a sample size of 1036 is sufficient to give you a 99% confidence interval with a 4% error tolerance.
This survey is statistically sound.
(statistician, 25 November 2010 15:40)
No it is not because if the survey was repeated it would give different results. A sample of just over 1,000 people can not be representative of a population of 2 million. The more people you conduct a survey on, the more accurate it will be. Asking 0.2% of the population is not enough for accurate results. There are many many issues and problems of sampling such a small amount of people. Like I said it was only conducted on 35-54 year olds for a start, they are not representative for the entire population. Sociologists would disregard this poll as useless.
Also there are many different ways you can ask a question to make people answer differently.
Be careful what you read and how you interpret it.
@ ZMAJ
When I said paper, I meant when it was published. I wasn't talking about how it was conducted. Sorry for the confusion.
ian,
unfortuanetly, unless the specific wording of the survey contains a bias, a sample size of 1036 is sufficient to give you a 99% confidence interval with a 4% error tolerance.
This survey is statistically sound.
"A telephone survey was carried out on a sample of 1,094 respondents, aged 35 to 54, 65,8 percent of whom were Macedonians, 24,7 Albanians, and the rest Serbs, Turks, Roma, Bosniaks, Aromanians and members of other national minority groups."
1,094 is nowhere near enough people to do a national survey on for a country with a population of 2 million. It is not reliable, representative or variable. If this survey was repeated 10 times on the same amount of people it would produce different results every time. This survey is rubbish, it was a waste of time and resources.
I would love to see the questions asked and how they were worded. I bet the questions were subjective not objective.
If they want to do a realistic survey, they should do it on at least 10% of the population and across the age range instead of 35-54 aka people who grew up with Yugoslavia. The younger generations in Macedonia will have very different opinions to the elder generations. This way they will get realistic results in stead of this embarrassment of a survey. It is not even worth the paper it was printed on.
If the West hadn't isolated us, we would've kept MK. When the S.Stream becomes operational and the EU becomes ever weaker, Serbia will look like a more attractive partner since Greece is blocking their attempt to join both NATO and the EU.
"A telephone survey was carried out on a sample of 1,094 respondents, aged 35 to 54, 65,8 percent of whom were Macedonians, 24,7 Albanians, and the rest Serbs, Turks, Roma, Bosniaks, Aromanians and members of other national minority groups."B92
There's 37% non "Macedonian" population, actually (all together). If you exlude Serbs and Albanians then you'll have rough 8% of Turks, Roma etc...
ANYWAY, it comes that rough 90% of "Macedonians" are YU nostalgic, actually.
Am I wrong?
PS. If I was counting them as a Euros, Dollars or any such a candies I'd deffinitely not ask that.
ian,
unfortuanetly, unless the specific wording of the survey contains a bias, a sample size of 1036 is sufficient to give you a 99% confidence interval with a 4% error tolerance.
This survey is statistically sound.
If the West hadn't isolated us, we would've kept MK. When the S.Stream becomes operational and the EU becomes ever weaker, Serbia will look like a more attractive partner since Greece is blocking their attempt to join both NATO and the EU.
"A telephone survey was carried out on a sample of 1,094 respondents, aged 35 to 54, 65,8 percent of whom were Macedonians, 24,7 Albanians, and the rest Serbs, Turks, Roma, Bosniaks, Aromanians and members of other national minority groups."B92
There's 37% non "Macedonian" population, actually (all together). If you exlude Serbs and Albanians then you'll have rough 8% of Turks, Roma etc...
ANYWAY, it comes that rough 90% of "Macedonians" are YU nostalgic, actually.
Am I wrong?
PS. If I was counting them as a Euros, Dollars or any such a candies I'd deffinitely not ask that.
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
well ian,
you're really talking about the overall reliability of surveys, and not a specific one. Certaily it is abundantly clear to those that understand statistics and surveying in order to gather statistics, that it is easy to manipulate them.
That is a totally different issue, than the sample size.
Simply put, the numbers that I've provided you are statisically based numbers, and are mathematically accurate. Socialogically speaking, a survey's validity comes from the lack of bias in the questioning, and a bias in the sample set (ie specified age ranges in this case -- but to be fair, excluding minors is completely reasonable considering they do not have an official opinion, where as cutting off the upper range at 55 might be of concern.
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
(macedon, 25 November 2010 19:06)
Macedon since you seem to believe we're scared; why don't you go ahead and join Serbia then? What is stopping you? Why are lacking the courage to go ahead? One word of caution though. This scenario would leave us with a great opening and a great opportunity. Before you even think of joining Serbia, you have to be 100% sure you can do it without splitting. On the contrary, you even mulling this idea opens up the possibility of Macedonia's splitting. You'll have those who want to join like yourself and those who don't wanna. Conflict will ensue. How sure are you that the end result of this conflict would be an intact Macedonia inside Serbia rather than a split Macedonia inside Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania and even Greece?
"A telephone survey was carried out on a sample of 1,094 respondents, aged 35 to 54, 65,8 percent of whom were Macedonians, 24,7 Albanians, and the rest Serbs, Turks, Roma, Bosniaks, Aromanians and members of other national minority groups."
1,094 is nowhere near enough people to do a national survey on for a country with a population of 2 million. It is not reliable, representative or variable. If this survey was repeated 10 times on the same amount of people it would produce different results every time. This survey is rubbish, it was a waste of time and resources.
I would love to see the questions asked and how they were worded. I bet the questions were subjective not objective.
If they want to do a realistic survey, they should do it on at least 10% of the population and across the age range instead of 35-54 aka people who grew up with Yugoslavia. The younger generations in Macedonia will have very different opinions to the elder generations. This way they will get realistic results in stead of this embarrassment of a survey. It is not even worth the paper it was printed on.
Ian I still don't understand your point. This survey was not a scientific one for a socialogical research paper or referendum.
This was an ordinary opinion poll with the sample size in keeping with those made in the UK with the question 'if there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for?'.
Of course there is room for error even if the question is fairly formulated, but usually not much.
Statistician is correct on this and sounds like he / she knows what they are talking about. If you criticise this poll then on the same basis you must criticise all opinion polls which are typically of this size.
So your point is, perhaps that you don't agree with the findings. Well, just say it, because you look a bit silly on your high horse claiming the standard isn't good enough...
On the contrary...
(johny, 25 November 2010 21:53)
On the contrary - what?
If you do this- we'll do that and we can do this if you try that................., bla, bla, bla.................., every day the same parrot repeating.
The Western resurces are over. Everything you "done" was done by others and everything you really have is miserable unclear position. The solid earth under your feet belongs to the others and your motherland is laying under the German garbage. What will you do, poor people?
Similar surveys in eastern Germany show a significant number of persons who miss the good old "German Democratic Republic". They felt safer there, had a job, and so on. Of course the surveys don't include questions like "Do you prefer to wait 15 years for a Trabant, or to buy a VW immediately" or "Do you prefer to spend the salary of one full year for buying a color TV or getting a huge flatscreen for €500"
@Zmaj:
Even if you are entitled to your opinions can you keep your temper under control all because when I read your comments I've noticed that you punctuated them with exclamation marks.
(The Confesser, 26 November 2010 01:08)
Wow man,
Don't take it so serious!!!!
IT IS impossible for someone to come out trough the screen and put the finger in your eye!!!! At most feeling of sulphur (S) or some acidity can be "present" at some comments... But those are not exclamation marked or almost never.
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
(macedon, 25 November 2010 19:06)
Don't you think we have lesser Albanians than it really looks., lesser Americans, Serbs, Englishman... Or Macedonians?!
If yes, what's going on and who the hell they are?!
If no, how comes double-triple (and so on..) commentators are coming from the same IP address?
Similar surveys in eastern Germany show a significant number of persons who miss the good old "German Democratic Republic". They felt safer there, had a job, and so on. Of course the surveys don't include questions like "Do you prefer to wait 15 years for a Trabant, or to buy a VW immediately" or "Do you prefer to spend the salary of one full year for buying a color TV or getting a huge flatscreen for €500"
(Top, 26 November 2010 11:08)
Right, if about cars.. When it comes to general stuff- real life, survival or basic food the things are totaly different.
One thing is critical for survey (especially this one)and that's mentioned before- the age of the participants. We speak about very critical subject for all "Macedonian" citizens.
If you ask only FYROM teenagers, the answer would be 95% - NO. I believe that.
There is no doubt that Macedonians lived in tito,s yugoslavia beyer than ever before or since. But at a price. A change of identity and a believe in such a fantastic version of history. This makes thee their integration in EU close to impossible. In 1913 Macedonians and Albanians reveled together against the Serbian obviously awaiting the Bulgarian army. Today people like Macedon wait for the Serbs to return. "
Of course they miss YU when back in those days you sat around preaching in the street that Tito is a wonderful statesman. By doing this you get a wonderful office governement job doing absolute nothing but highly piad. To many people in high places coming from an un-educated peasant background.
@Zmaj:
Even if you are entitled to your opinions can you keep your temper under control all because when I read your comments I've noticed that you punctuated them with exclamation marks.
# ian,
unfortuanetly, unless the specific wording of the survey contains a bias, a sample size of 1036 is sufficient to give you a 99% confidence interval with a 4% error tolerance.
This survey is statistically sound.
(statistician, 25 November 2010 15:40)
No it is not because if the survey was repeated it would give different results. A sample of just over 1,000 people can not be representative of a population of 2 million. The more people you conduct a survey on, the more accurate it will be. Asking 0.2% of the population is not enough for accurate results. There are many many issues and problems of sampling such a small amount of people. Like I said it was only conducted on 35-54 year olds for a start, they are not representative for the entire population. Sociologists would disregard this poll as useless.
Also there are many different ways you can ask a question to make people answer differently.
Be careful what you read and how you interpret it.
@ ZMAJ
When I said paper, I meant when it was published. I wasn't talking about how it was conducted. Sorry for the confusion.
"Ian I still don't understand your point. This survey was not a scientific one for a socialogical research paper or referendum.
This was an ordinary opinion poll with the sample size in keeping with those made in the UK with the question 'if there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for?'.
Of course there is room for error even if the question is fairly formulated, but usually not much.
Statistician is correct on this and sounds like he / she knows what they are talking about. If you criticise this poll then on the same basis you must criticise all opinion polls which are typically of this size.
So your point is, perhaps that you don't agree with the findings. Well, just say it, because you look a bit silly on your high horse claiming the standard isn't good enough...
bganon"
If you want to argue about semantics then the survey may be right.
But, the issue here is if then survey represents the opinion of the entire population of Macedonia.
It certainly does not. It represents the opinion of the age groups surveyed in that particular region.
If I surveyed 1000 people in Belgrade and asked them how they feel about EU then do you think their opinions represent the opinion of the entire country? Or if I asked the same question to 1000 villagers somewhere in Serbia?
To Yugo-nostalgics - get over it.
Serbs, for one, would never again want to live in any Yugoslavia.
Nik said that Macedonians of today would want Serbs to return. Are yhou Macedonian?
Serbs aren't coming back. We don't have intrst in Macedona.
Any control we had is been transferd to Bulgaria even as we loose money.
2 yrs ago Macedon Airspace control is been transferd from Belgrade to Bulgarian air trafic authority. NOw they make money of any flight over Macedonia.
But,is best for us. What is our intrst in Macedonia?
"A telephone survey was carried out on a sample of 1,094 respondents, aged 35 to 54, 65,8 percent of whom were Macedonians, 24,7 Albanians, and the rest Serbs, Turks, Roma, Bosniaks, Aromanians and members of other national minority groups."
1,094 is nowhere near enough people to do a national survey on for a country with a population of 2 million. It is not reliable, representative or variable. If this survey was repeated 10 times on the same amount of people it would produce different results every time. This survey is rubbish, it was a waste of time and resources.
I would love to see the questions asked and how they were worded. I bet the questions were subjective not objective.
If they want to do a realistic survey, they should do it on at least 10% of the population and across the age range instead of 35-54 aka people who grew up with Yugoslavia. The younger generations in Macedonia will have very different opinions to the elder generations. This way they will get realistic results in stead of this embarrassment of a survey. It is not even worth the paper it was printed on.
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
(macedon, 25 November 2010 19:06)
Macedon since you seem to believe we're scared; why don't you go ahead and join Serbia then? What is stopping you? Why are lacking the courage to go ahead? One word of caution though. This scenario would leave us with a great opening and a great opportunity. Before you even think of joining Serbia, you have to be 100% sure you can do it without splitting. On the contrary, you even mulling this idea opens up the possibility of Macedonia's splitting. You'll have those who want to join like yourself and those who don't wanna. Conflict will ensue. How sure are you that the end result of this conflict would be an intact Macedonia inside Serbia rather than a split Macedonia inside Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania and even Greece?
# ian,
unfortuanetly, unless the specific wording of the survey contains a bias, a sample size of 1036 is sufficient to give you a 99% confidence interval with a 4% error tolerance.
This survey is statistically sound.
(statistician, 25 November 2010 15:40)
No it is not because if the survey was repeated it would give different results. A sample of just over 1,000 people can not be representative of a population of 2 million. The more people you conduct a survey on, the more accurate it will be. Asking 0.2% of the population is not enough for accurate results. There are many many issues and problems of sampling such a small amount of people. Like I said it was only conducted on 35-54 year olds for a start, they are not representative for the entire population. Sociologists would disregard this poll as useless.
Also there are many different ways you can ask a question to make people answer differently.
Be careful what you read and how you interpret it.
@ ZMAJ
When I said paper, I meant when it was published. I wasn't talking about how it was conducted. Sorry for the confusion.
If the West hadn't isolated us, we would've kept MK. When the S.Stream becomes operational and the EU becomes ever weaker, Serbia will look like a more attractive partner since Greece is blocking their attempt to join both NATO and the EU.
Similar surveys in eastern Germany show a significant number of persons who miss the good old "German Democratic Republic". They felt safer there, had a job, and so on. Of course the surveys don't include questions like "Do you prefer to wait 15 years for a Trabant, or to buy a VW immediately" or "Do you prefer to spend the salary of one full year for buying a color TV or getting a huge flatscreen for €500"
albanians looking scared of this because if they join serbia then their dreams are over lol and that's why IAN THE Albanian is so scared of this. and Ian i am 22 years old and i want to join Serbia again just like many many of the Macedonian youth we love Yugoslavia so go dream somewhere else.
(macedon, 25 November 2010 19:06)
Don't you think we have lesser Albanians than it really looks., lesser Americans, Serbs, Englishman... Or Macedonians?!
If yes, what's going on and who the hell they are?!
If no, how comes double-triple (and so on..) commentators are coming from the same IP address?
Of course they miss YU when back in those days you sat around preaching in the street that Tito is a wonderful statesman. By doing this you get a wonderful office governement job doing absolute nothing but highly piad. To many people in high places coming from an un-educated peasant background.
@Zmaj:
Even if you are entitled to your opinions can you keep your temper under control all because when I read your comments I've noticed that you punctuated them with exclamation marks.
There is no doubt that Macedonians lived in tito,s yugoslavia beyer than ever before or since. But at a price. A change of identity and a believe in such a fantastic version of history. This makes thee their integration in EU close to impossible. In 1913 Macedonians and Albanians reveled together against the Serbian obviously awaiting the Bulgarian army. Today people like Macedon wait for the Serbs to return. "
ian,
unfortuanetly, unless the specific wording of the survey contains a bias, a sample size of 1036 is sufficient to give you a 99% confidence interval with a 4% error tolerance.
This survey is statistically sound.
well ian,
you're really talking about the overall reliability of surveys, and not a specific one. Certaily it is abundantly clear to those that understand statistics and surveying in order to gather statistics, that it is easy to manipulate them.
That is a totally different issue, than the sample size.
Simply put, the numbers that I've provided you are statisically based numbers, and are mathematically accurate. Socialogically speaking, a survey's validity comes from the lack of bias in the questioning, and a bias in the sample set (ie specified age ranges in this case -- but to be fair, excluding minors is completely reasonable considering they do not have an official opinion, where as cutting off the upper range at 55 might be of concern.
On the contrary...
(johny, 25 November 2010 21:53)
On the contrary - what?
If you do this- we'll do that and we can do this if you try that................., bla, bla, bla.................., every day the same parrot repeating.
The Western resurces are over. Everything you "done" was done by others and everything you really have is miserable unclear position. The solid earth under your feet belongs to the others and your motherland is laying under the German garbage. What will you do, poor people?
@Zmaj:
Even if you are entitled to your opinions can you keep your temper under control all because when I read your comments I've noticed that you punctuated them with exclamation marks.
(The Confesser, 26 November 2010 01:08)
Wow man,
Don't take it so serious!!!!
IT IS impossible for someone to come out trough the screen and put the finger in your eye!!!! At most feeling of sulphur (S) or some acidity can be "present" at some comments... But those are not exclamation marked or almost never.
Ian I still don't understand your point. This survey was not a scientific one for a socialogical research paper or referendum.
This was an ordinary opinion poll with the sample size in keeping with those made in the UK with the question 'if there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for?'.
Of course there is room for error even if the question is fairly formulated, but usually not much.
Statistician is correct on this and sounds like he / she knows what they are talking about. If you criticise this poll then on the same basis you must criticise all opinion polls which are typically of this size.
So your point is, perhaps that you don't agree with the findings. Well, just say it, because you look a bit silly on your high horse claiming the standard isn't good enough...
"Ian I still don't understand your point. This survey was not a scientific one for a socialogical research paper or referendum.
This was an ordinary opinion poll with the sample size in keeping with those made in the UK with the question 'if there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for?'.
Of course there is room for error even if the question is fairly formulated, but usually not much.
Statistician is correct on this and sounds like he / she knows what they are talking about. If you criticise this poll then on the same basis you must criticise all opinion polls which are typically of this size.
So your point is, perhaps that you don't agree with the findings. Well, just say it, because you look a bit silly on your high horse claiming the standard isn't good enough...
bganon"
If you want to argue about semantics then the survey may be right.
But, the issue here is if then survey represents the opinion of the entire population of Macedonia.
It certainly does not. It represents the opinion of the age groups surveyed in that particular region.
If I surveyed 1000 people in Belgrade and asked them how they feel about EU then do you think their opinions represent the opinion of the entire country? Or if I asked the same question to 1000 villagers somewhere in Serbia?
"A telephone survey was carried out on a sample of 1,094 respondents, aged 35 to 54, 65,8 percent of whom were Macedonians, 24,7 Albanians, and the rest Serbs, Turks, Roma, Bosniaks, Aromanians and members of other national minority groups."B92
There's 37% non "Macedonian" population, actually (all together). If you exlude Serbs and Albanians then you'll have rough 8% of Turks, Roma etc...
ANYWAY, it comes that rough 90% of "Macedonians" are YU nostalgic, actually.
Am I wrong?
PS. If I was counting them as a Euros, Dollars or any such a candies I'd deffinitely not ask that.
Similar surveys in eastern Germany show a significant number of persons who miss the good old "German Democratic Republic". They felt safer there, had a job, and so on. Of course the surveys don't include questions like "Do you prefer to wait 15 years for a Trabant, or to buy a VW immediately" or "Do you prefer to spend the salary of one full year for buying a color TV or getting a huge flatscreen for €500"
(Top, 26 November 2010 11:08)
Right, if about cars.. When it comes to general stuff- real life, survival or basic food the things are totaly different.
One thing is critical for survey (especially this one)and that's mentioned before- the age of the participants. We speak about very critical subject for all "Macedonian" citizens.
If you ask only FYROM teenagers, the answer would be 95% - NO. I believe that.
To Yugo-nostalgics - get over it.
Serbs, for one, would never again want to live in any Yugoslavia.
Nik said that Macedonians of today would want Serbs to return. Are yhou Macedonian?
Serbs aren't coming back. We don't have intrst in Macedona.
Any control we had is been transferd to Bulgaria even as we loose money.
2 yrs ago Macedon Airspace control is been transferd from Belgrade to Bulgarian air trafic authority. NOw they make money of any flight over Macedonia.
But,is best for us. What is our intrst in Macedonia?
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