Gunmen torch NATO trucks in Pakistan

If not the Talaban (or their allies) who else could done this? (lowe, 20 November 2010 15:41)

CIA?

"No one claimed responsibility for the attack, but suspicion fell on Taliban militants, who have in the past targeted supplies trucked through Pakistan for coalition forces in landlocked Afghanistan. "

If not the Talaban (or their allies) who else could done this? Santa Claus? Anyway talk about sitting ducks!

..Georgian route that Saakashvili keeps offering.
(Amer, 21 November 2010 16:43)

Micheil Saakashvili has some route? To escape?

Saakashvili torch NATO trucks in Pakistan!! To ensure route! So the Russia can use route to buy all US hi-tech weapons and save the empire from bankrupt!!

"THE ROUTE"
-empire vs empire-

Actors:

Empire: Barack Hussein Obama

Pimp: Micheil Saakashvili

Buyer: Vladimir Putin

Director: Emir Kusturica

Pakistan Film Production 2011.

"From the Nato-Russia talks in Lisbon:

"The route from Europe to Afghanistan via Russia and Central Asia serves as an alternative to the ambush-prone logistics link through Pakistan. The new accord enhances that by allowing for heavy equipment such as armored vehicles to be hauled, as well as goods and materials to go in both directions. "
(Amer, 20 November 2010 17:59) "

A route which will only remain open at Russia's pleasure.

CIA?
(ZMAJ, 20 November 2010 16:01)"

You mean they are actually bright enough to do that?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 05:57)

Modified:

You mean they are actually STILL bright enough to do that?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 05:57)

Yes., unfortunately- yes.

"CIA?
(ZMAJ, 20 November 2010 16:01)"

You mean they are actually bright enough to do that?

"Yes., unfortunately- yes.
(ZMAJ, 21 November 2010 10:05) "

Oops! Silly me to forget that making war on others is the Yankees' specialty!

Oops! Silly me to forget that making war on others is the Yankees' specialty!
(lowe, 21 November 2010 11:59)

You forgot? You're too good than necessary.

Come on Amer, be serious!

To ensure or participate in such a serious concept you must be able to "swallow and push". Saakashvili's dreamland of second capital, returning Ossetia, major NATO role or economy concept are West's "pain in the ass" any more. He's just desperate and marginal president with a stupid route to offer. This route is impossible to be sufficient or safe due to geographic configuration problems. It's just a new try to revive or make stronger ties with his "protectors" (no one care). Link? Take this one: http://www.messenger.com.ge/issues/2223_october_28_2010/2223_edit.html

“Russia wants the flow of heroin out of Afghanistan stopped - it has an interest in Nato not simply pulling out. It also needs Western technology to upgrade its military - so Russia has a lot to lose by getting cute. But if it does, there's always the Georgian route that Saakashvili keeps offering.
(Amer, 21 November 2010 16:43)”

Russia needs Nato to stop the heroin destined mainly for WESTERN markets and is unable patrol her own borders? Ya sure! And she is crying for the latest Western military technology? Ya sure, like as if the West are about to give her all their high tech secrets!

Georgian route?????? I didn’t know Georgia is anywhere near Afghanistan much less share any border with that country! And why have those Yankees not taken up the offer to date if it is indeed that feasible?

The list of CIA failures from attempts to remove Hugo Chaves to its activities in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Korean peninsula is simply breath taking to say the least.
Let’s take one of the more recent disasters the CIA undertook. The South Korean ship allegedly sunk by the North Koreans. They enlisted so called experts from around the world and they could not convince anyone in Asia or for that matter the rest of the world – the vast majority believe that those incompetents sunk the ship to blame the North Koreans.
How dumb are they to try a “weapons of mass destruction” trick so soon after Iraq?
The CIA is now too busy with affirmative action plans, policy and is not capable of performing at a desired level.

"See [link] and [link], for example.
(Amer, 22 November 2010 10:00) "

Thanks for your links. I noted however that they are quite dated -- Jan and Feb this year -- I'm sure the Yankees must have already concluded by now that the Georgian route is not feasible due to poor infrastructure and high transportation costs as mentioned in one of these articles. Besides, a check with the map shows that another country Turmenistan would have to give consent for its territory to be as enroute to Afghanistan -- I can't imagine Iran giving its consent!

From the Nato-Russia talks in Lisbon:

"The route from Europe to Afghanistan via Russia and Central Asia serves as an alternative to the ambush-prone logistics link through Pakistan. The new accord enhances that by allowing for heavy equipment such as armored vehicles to be hauled, as well as goods and materials to go in both directions. "

"A route which will only remain open at Russia's pleasure.
(lowe, 21 November 2010 05:52)"

Russia wants the flow of heroin out of Afghanistan stopped - it has an interest in Nato not simply pulling out. It also needs Western technology to upgrade its military - so Russia has a lot to lose by getting cute. But if it does, there's always the Georgian route that Saakashvili keeps offering.

"Georgian route?????? I didn’t know Georgia is anywhere near Afghanistan much less share any border with that country! And why have those Yankees not taken up the offer to date if it is indeed that feasible?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 20:47) "

See http://www.cacianalyst.org/?q=node/5272 and http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-46368920100222, for example.

"Thanks for your links. I noted however that they are quite dated -- Jan and Feb this year -- ..."

Yes, I was trying to find something I read just recently - maybe in a Stratfor report - that said Saakashvili had recently reiterated the idea during some meeting. But Obama is staking everything on improving relations with Russia, and the route through Georgia idea is most likely going nowhere. Unless the Russians break O's heart and his hopes for a major foreign policy breakthrough. It's a highly theoretical possibility, but it's there.

Georgian route?????? I didn’t know Georgia is anywhere near Afghanistan much less share any border with that country! And why have those Yankees not taken up the offer to date if it is indeed that feasible?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 20:47)

See http://www.cacianalyst.org/?q=node/5272

If not the Talaban (or their allies) who else could done this? (lowe, 20 November 2010 15:41)

CIA?

"No one claimed responsibility for the attack, but suspicion fell on Taliban militants, who have in the past targeted supplies trucked through Pakistan for coalition forces in landlocked Afghanistan. "

If not the Talaban (or their allies) who else could done this? Santa Claus? Anyway talk about sitting ducks!

"A route which will only remain open at Russia's pleasure.
(lowe, 21 November 2010 05:52)"

Russia wants the flow of heroin out of Afghanistan stopped - it has an interest in Nato not simply pulling out. It also needs Western technology to upgrade its military - so Russia has a lot to lose by getting cute. But if it does, there's always the Georgian route that Saakashvili keeps offering.

The list of CIA failures from attempts to remove Hugo Chaves to its activities in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Korean peninsula is simply breath taking to say the least.
Let’s take one of the more recent disasters the CIA undertook. The South Korean ship allegedly sunk by the North Koreans. They enlisted so called experts from around the world and they could not convince anyone in Asia or for that matter the rest of the world – the vast majority believe that those incompetents sunk the ship to blame the North Koreans.
How dumb are they to try a “weapons of mass destruction” trick so soon after Iraq?
The CIA is now too busy with affirmative action plans, policy and is not capable of performing at a desired level.

From the Nato-Russia talks in Lisbon:

"The route from Europe to Afghanistan via Russia and Central Asia serves as an alternative to the ambush-prone logistics link through Pakistan. The new accord enhances that by allowing for heavy equipment such as armored vehicles to be hauled, as well as goods and materials to go in both directions. "

"CIA?
(ZMAJ, 20 November 2010 16:01)"

You mean they are actually bright enough to do that?

"Yes., unfortunately- yes.
(ZMAJ, 21 November 2010 10:05) "

Oops! Silly me to forget that making war on others is the Yankees' specialty!

Georgian route?????? I didn’t know Georgia is anywhere near Afghanistan much less share any border with that country! And why have those Yankees not taken up the offer to date if it is indeed that feasible?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 20:47)

See http://www.cacianalyst.org/?q=node/5272

"From the Nato-Russia talks in Lisbon:

"The route from Europe to Afghanistan via Russia and Central Asia serves as an alternative to the ambush-prone logistics link through Pakistan. The new accord enhances that by allowing for heavy equipment such as armored vehicles to be hauled, as well as goods and materials to go in both directions. "
(Amer, 20 November 2010 17:59) "

A route which will only remain open at Russia's pleasure.

CIA?
(ZMAJ, 20 November 2010 16:01)"

You mean they are actually bright enough to do that?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 05:57)

Modified:

You mean they are actually STILL bright enough to do that?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 05:57)

Yes., unfortunately- yes.

Oops! Silly me to forget that making war on others is the Yankees' specialty!
(lowe, 21 November 2010 11:59)

You forgot? You're too good than necessary.

“Russia wants the flow of heroin out of Afghanistan stopped - it has an interest in Nato not simply pulling out. It also needs Western technology to upgrade its military - so Russia has a lot to lose by getting cute. But if it does, there's always the Georgian route that Saakashvili keeps offering.
(Amer, 21 November 2010 16:43)”

Russia needs Nato to stop the heroin destined mainly for WESTERN markets and is unable patrol her own borders? Ya sure! And she is crying for the latest Western military technology? Ya sure, like as if the West are about to give her all their high tech secrets!

Georgian route?????? I didn’t know Georgia is anywhere near Afghanistan much less share any border with that country! And why have those Yankees not taken up the offer to date if it is indeed that feasible?

..Georgian route that Saakashvili keeps offering.
(Amer, 21 November 2010 16:43)

Micheil Saakashvili has some route? To escape?

Saakashvili torch NATO trucks in Pakistan!! To ensure route! So the Russia can use route to buy all US hi-tech weapons and save the empire from bankrupt!!

"THE ROUTE"
-empire vs empire-

Actors:

Empire: Barack Hussein Obama

Pimp: Micheil Saakashvili

Buyer: Vladimir Putin

Director: Emir Kusturica

Pakistan Film Production 2011.

"Georgian route?????? I didn’t know Georgia is anywhere near Afghanistan much less share any border with that country! And why have those Yankees not taken up the offer to date if it is indeed that feasible?
(lowe, 21 November 2010 20:47) "

See http://www.cacianalyst.org/?q=node/5272 and http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-46368920100222, for example.

Come on Amer, be serious!

To ensure or participate in such a serious concept you must be able to "swallow and push". Saakashvili's dreamland of second capital, returning Ossetia, major NATO role or economy concept are West's "pain in the ass" any more. He's just desperate and marginal president with a stupid route to offer. This route is impossible to be sufficient or safe due to geographic configuration problems. It's just a new try to revive or make stronger ties with his "protectors" (no one care). Link? Take this one: http://www.messenger.com.ge/issues/2223_october_28_2010/2223_edit.html

"See [link] and [link], for example.
(Amer, 22 November 2010 10:00) "

Thanks for your links. I noted however that they are quite dated -- Jan and Feb this year -- I'm sure the Yankees must have already concluded by now that the Georgian route is not feasible due to poor infrastructure and high transportation costs as mentioned in one of these articles. Besides, a check with the map shows that another country Turmenistan would have to give consent for its territory to be as enroute to Afghanistan -- I can't imagine Iran giving its consent!

"Thanks for your links. I noted however that they are quite dated -- Jan and Feb this year -- ..."

Yes, I was trying to find something I read just recently - maybe in a Stratfor report - that said Saakashvili had recently reiterated the idea during some meeting. But Obama is staking everything on improving relations with Russia, and the route through Georgia idea is most likely going nowhere. Unless the Russians break O's heart and his hopes for a major foreign policy breakthrough. It's a highly theoretical possibility, but it's there.