B92 investigates links between right-wingers and Church

These days, if you believe in God, defend your national interests and don't want to live in the eu paradise, you're considered a right-wing extremist.

Gays, drugs,the destruction of family values - this is what an "honest, normal individual" means.

No wonder b92 joined the western-american propaganda chorus...

There's a b92 in a every eastern european country. Hang on serbs! They only want your economic independence.

Congratulations, B92! That's how investigative journalism should be done!

Let's hope that many Serbs will watch the program when it's aired.

This is great and important journalistic work.

Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.

Several Dveri members have been employed at the SPC patriarchate for the past few years, and Metropolitan Amfilohije Radović often takes part in their forums, while Dveri receives funding from ministries of the Serbia government and the Serbian Orthodox Church eparchies


I am glad the truth is coming on surface about the Serb church role in vilent activities.

I can see why the Otpor left overs are jumping up and down for this one.

Anglo-american propaganda on a daily basis, Promotions of sodomy and drug liberalism and now peddling of hate articles against the Serbian orthodox church and christianity, can´t say im surprised....

Dver of Serbia and the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard" of Iran.Same people same mentality.

Dver of Serbia and the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard" of Iran.Same people same mentality.
(Mark, 15 November 2010 18:15)
I think you may have forgotten about the champions of religiuos extremism namely the ultra ortodox jewish land grabbing settlers.

"Anglo-american propaganda on a daily basis, Promotions of sodomy and drug liberalism and now peddling of hate articles against the Serbian orthodox church and christianity, can´t say im surprised...."
(excor, 15 November 2010 16:34)
Yeah, sure, investigative journalism is propaganda, and discovering connections with violent right extremist groups and the SPC is writing "hate articles". Some people seem to want back the good old times, where Milosevic's state TV was broadcasting the one and only truth, against all the EVIL WEST and their lies :-)

This is not surprising, as all groups in all societies tend to gravitiate to those they think share their values.
But one should be carefull not to paint the entire Orthodox Church with the same brush. We have seen on this site that those who want to glorify serbia have in fact praised right wingers and extremists , but that in no way represents the Serbians that I have met or deal with and who are nothing like these primitives.

Excor I couldn't agree more alcoholism and nicotine addiction is a blight on our society!

But seriously, this comes as no surprise to those in Serbia. And I'm not surprised B92 is doing a programme on it. The thing is that time and time against this lobby attacks B92 when they would be better off leaving them alone because B92 has an annoying habit of striking back. And the end result is usually public pressure leading to arrests of those groups and organisations.

@Peggy

I don't think investigating any religious institution should be taboo.
(Danilo, 16 November 2010 00:38)
Recommend (+4)Poor comment (-1)What's this
Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.
(Danilo, 15 November 2010 16:17)
===…==

Anyone involved in shady things would be investigated no matter who they are but do you feel the same about investigating other religious groups or is it only the Serbian church and would you believe anything negative about your own religious institutions?
(Peggy, 15 November 2010 23:15)
==================

I never said it was. Please read my comment again and stop putting words in my mouth.
If you don't want to reply sensibly then I would appreciate you don't reply at all.

Now, please answer my question if you want but stay away from distorting what I actually said.

Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.
(Danilo, 15 November 2010 16:17)
====================

Anyone involved in shady things would be investigated no matter who they are but do you feel the same about investigating other religious groups or is it only the Serbian church and would you believe anything negative about your own religious institutions?

@ highduke

Could you please clarify what you mean by "traditional values"? This is an investigation into violent groups (and their possible connection to the SOC).

Are you suggesting that violence is somehow a Serbian tradition and value?

The thing is that time and time against this lobby attacks B92 when they would be better off leaving them alone because B92 has an annoying habit of striking back.
(bganon, 15 November 2010 17:08)
--
So much for impartial journalism right? Well, we all know there's no such thing. It's all a bit childish really. B92 attacks the Serbian church and then we get the repercussions. The so-called "right" in turn attack B92 journalists or buses with B92 advertising. We do expect reporting of such issues but when a media outlet gets personally involved then it's not surprising the childish behaviour continues.

The scary things is, when you do your research, B92, Tadic and the so-called lefties in Serbia are in fact aligned with the western right. This is quite shameful considering Serbia gets it true support from the global left movement.

Dver of Serbia and the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard" of Iran.Same people same mentality.
(Mark, 15 November 2010 18:15)
I think you may have forgotten about the champions of religiuos extremism namely the ultra ortodox jewish land grabbing settlers.
(szemi, 15 November 2010 19:52)

The comparison still stands. Talking about land grabbing jews and their Jerusalem. Tell me who calls Kosovo Serbia's Jerusalem?

"This is great and important journalistic work.

Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.
(Danilo"

judging by the ratings, the propaganda youth does not want you to know the truth Serbia

@Peggy

I don't think investigating any religious institution should be taboo.

Amazing that any news organization should be sniping at an unjustly persecuted church like the Serbian Orthodox Church when unrepetent blood soaked Catholics and Muslims are lavished with attention and favors right next door. When is anyone going to be embarrased by the connection between Croation and Muslim thugs and their religious authorities? The Serbian right is innocent, they are on the defensive and rightly so. Serbian spirituality is only concerned with Serbs, their Catholic and Muslim neighbors are the troublemakers.

I think you may have forgotten about the champions of religiuos extremism namely the ultra ortodox jewish land grabbing settlers.
(szemi, 15 November 2010 19:52)

That's a total mix-up. The ultra orthodox live mostly in Jerusalem and are a country within a country. Many completely refuse any kind of cooperation with any state. Also surprisingly a large number have no direct link to Jewish history at all. In America we have all kind of born-again insanity: there are born-again Albanians (see Józsi, the DioGuardi), born-again Christians, born-again Moslems... so why not born-again Jews?

The best way to prevent the "land-grab" is simply recognize Israel as a country and the right of Jews not to be exterminated. It's that simple - see the history of Israeli-Egyptian conflict.

Precisely that is what against the interest of the biggest land-grabber of all: mullahs. They need the conflict.

BTW, Szemi - we got an Albanian hedgehog who has visions to be Hungarian-Polish one... but poor thing does not know the word "wêgierski", see "je¿ ungaropolski". I was ROFL.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=70920

Otherwise - like my "Japanese"(he-he-he) alterego did say: your idea who the Orthodox Jews are is 100% incorrect. Think marginal, unimportant nut cases with more American background than anything else. Born again nuts... God save us from anyone, who was born more, than once.

It seems that DS and B-92 have similar agendae: They want to outlaw those who disagree with their view of Serbia's future. Prostate before the murderous European Union/NATO combine and their American masters, DS and B-92 rail against all things Serb. They fail to see they are doing there best to destroy the soul of Serbia. Do the lines from the English poem "Lay of the Last Minstrel" have no meaning for people like this who hate Serbia: "Lives there the man with soul so dead who never to himself hath said, This is my own, my native land." Does Serb Blood not flow in their veins? The answer would seem no.

God save us from anyone, who was born more, than once.
(Je¿ japoñski, 16 November 2010 20:58)

He can get away with that on a technicality but that can bring down religious dogmas that about 3 billion sheeple follow. That's a very risky prayer that might not pass through the firewalls of your religion unless you rephrase it; as it risks their destruction. Perhaps you want him to save you from those who were born more than once and have't died at least once.

@Peggy.

My answer is in the post you quoted.

If this is the same Serb nation that overwhelmingly rejected Gayness, then they will reject this investigative pseudo-journalism as another attack on traditional values, so B92 is discrditing themselves in front of the mainstream.

(Imagawa Yózsidómoto, 16 November 2010 05:51)
Recommend (0) Poor comment (-1)

Would be interesting to know, what the "-1" does object.

#1: that DioGuardi is a "Józsi" ( = Joe )

#2: that DioGuardi is a nut case

#3: that DioGuardi is a born-again Albanian

#4: that Jews have right to live on Planet Earth and don't need to be exterminated

#5: that some mullahs aren't up for land-grabbing and spreading THEIR version of Islam, no matter what.

#6: all of this. ( Hint: http://tinyurl.com/356hjzp )

I can see why the Otpor left overs are jumping up and down for this one.

Anglo-american propaganda on a daily basis, Promotions of sodomy and drug liberalism and now peddling of hate articles against the Serbian orthodox church and christianity, can´t say im surprised....

Several Dveri members have been employed at the SPC patriarchate for the past few years, and Metropolitan Amfilohije Radović often takes part in their forums, while Dveri receives funding from ministries of the Serbia government and the Serbian Orthodox Church eparchies


I am glad the truth is coming on surface about the Serb church role in vilent activities.

Excor I couldn't agree more alcoholism and nicotine addiction is a blight on our society!

But seriously, this comes as no surprise to those in Serbia. And I'm not surprised B92 is doing a programme on it. The thing is that time and time against this lobby attacks B92 when they would be better off leaving them alone because B92 has an annoying habit of striking back. And the end result is usually public pressure leading to arrests of those groups and organisations.

This is great and important journalistic work.

Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.

Congratulations, B92! That's how investigative journalism should be done!

Let's hope that many Serbs will watch the program when it's aired.

God save us from anyone, who was born more, than once.
(Je¿ japoñski, 16 November 2010 20:58)

He can get away with that on a technicality but that can bring down religious dogmas that about 3 billion sheeple follow. That's a very risky prayer that might not pass through the firewalls of your religion unless you rephrase it; as it risks their destruction. Perhaps you want him to save you from those who were born more than once and have't died at least once.

The thing is that time and time against this lobby attacks B92 when they would be better off leaving them alone because B92 has an annoying habit of striking back.
(bganon, 15 November 2010 17:08)
--
So much for impartial journalism right? Well, we all know there's no such thing. It's all a bit childish really. B92 attacks the Serbian church and then we get the repercussions. The so-called "right" in turn attack B92 journalists or buses with B92 advertising. We do expect reporting of such issues but when a media outlet gets personally involved then it's not surprising the childish behaviour continues.

The scary things is, when you do your research, B92, Tadic and the so-called lefties in Serbia are in fact aligned with the western right. This is quite shameful considering Serbia gets it true support from the global left movement.

Amazing that any news organization should be sniping at an unjustly persecuted church like the Serbian Orthodox Church when unrepetent blood soaked Catholics and Muslims are lavished with attention and favors right next door. When is anyone going to be embarrased by the connection between Croation and Muslim thugs and their religious authorities? The Serbian right is innocent, they are on the defensive and rightly so. Serbian spirituality is only concerned with Serbs, their Catholic and Muslim neighbors are the troublemakers.

"Anglo-american propaganda on a daily basis, Promotions of sodomy and drug liberalism and now peddling of hate articles against the Serbian orthodox church and christianity, can´t say im surprised...."
(excor, 15 November 2010 16:34)
Yeah, sure, investigative journalism is propaganda, and discovering connections with violent right extremist groups and the SPC is writing "hate articles". Some people seem to want back the good old times, where Milosevic's state TV was broadcasting the one and only truth, against all the EVIL WEST and their lies :-)

If this is the same Serb nation that overwhelmingly rejected Gayness, then they will reject this investigative pseudo-journalism as another attack on traditional values, so B92 is discrditing themselves in front of the mainstream.

Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.
(Danilo, 15 November 2010 16:17)
====================

Anyone involved in shady things would be investigated no matter who they are but do you feel the same about investigating other religious groups or is it only the Serbian church and would you believe anything negative about your own religious institutions?

Dver of Serbia and the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard" of Iran.Same people same mentality.
(Mark, 15 November 2010 18:15)
I think you may have forgotten about the champions of religiuos extremism namely the ultra ortodox jewish land grabbing settlers.
(szemi, 15 November 2010 19:52)

The comparison still stands. Talking about land grabbing jews and their Jerusalem. Tell me who calls Kosovo Serbia's Jerusalem?

Dver of Serbia and the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard" of Iran.Same people same mentality.

It seems that DS and B-92 have similar agendae: They want to outlaw those who disagree with their view of Serbia's future. Prostate before the murderous European Union/NATO combine and their American masters, DS and B-92 rail against all things Serb. They fail to see they are doing there best to destroy the soul of Serbia. Do the lines from the English poem "Lay of the Last Minstrel" have no meaning for people like this who hate Serbia: "Lives there the man with soul so dead who never to himself hath said, This is my own, my native land." Does Serb Blood not flow in their veins? The answer would seem no.

Dver of Serbia and the "Islamic Revolutionary Guard" of Iran.Same people same mentality.
(Mark, 15 November 2010 18:15)
I think you may have forgotten about the champions of religiuos extremism namely the ultra ortodox jewish land grabbing settlers.

"This is great and important journalistic work.

Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.
(Danilo"

judging by the ratings, the propaganda youth does not want you to know the truth Serbia

This is not surprising, as all groups in all societies tend to gravitiate to those they think share their values.
But one should be carefull not to paint the entire Orthodox Church with the same brush. We have seen on this site that those who want to glorify serbia have in fact praised right wingers and extremists , but that in no way represents the Serbians that I have met or deal with and who are nothing like these primitives.

I think you may have forgotten about the champions of religiuos extremism namely the ultra ortodox jewish land grabbing settlers.
(szemi, 15 November 2010 19:52)

That's a total mix-up. The ultra orthodox live mostly in Jerusalem and are a country within a country. Many completely refuse any kind of cooperation with any state. Also surprisingly a large number have no direct link to Jewish history at all. In America we have all kind of born-again insanity: there are born-again Albanians (see Józsi, the DioGuardi), born-again Christians, born-again Moslems... so why not born-again Jews?

The best way to prevent the "land-grab" is simply recognize Israel as a country and the right of Jews not to be exterminated. It's that simple - see the history of Israeli-Egyptian conflict.

Precisely that is what against the interest of the biggest land-grabber of all: mullahs. They need the conflict.

(Imagawa Yózsidómoto, 16 November 2010 05:51)
Recommend (0) Poor comment (-1)

Would be interesting to know, what the "-1" does object.

#1: that DioGuardi is a "Józsi" ( = Joe )

#2: that DioGuardi is a nut case

#3: that DioGuardi is a born-again Albanian

#4: that Jews have right to live on Planet Earth and don't need to be exterminated

#5: that some mullahs aren't up for land-grabbing and spreading THEIR version of Islam, no matter what.

#6: all of this. ( Hint: http://tinyurl.com/356hjzp )

@ highduke

Could you please clarify what you mean by "traditional values"? This is an investigation into violent groups (and their possible connection to the SOC).

Are you suggesting that violence is somehow a Serbian tradition and value?

@Peggy

I don't think investigating any religious institution should be taboo.
(Danilo, 16 November 2010 00:38)
Recommend (+4)Poor comment (-1)What's this
Investigating the Serbian Church should not be a taboo in any way, shape or form.
(Danilo, 15 November 2010 16:17)
===…==

Anyone involved in shady things would be investigated no matter who they are but do you feel the same about investigating other religious groups or is it only the Serbian church and would you believe anything negative about your own religious institutions?
(Peggy, 15 November 2010 23:15)
==================

I never said it was. Please read my comment again and stop putting words in my mouth.
If you don't want to reply sensibly then I would appreciate you don't reply at all.

Now, please answer my question if you want but stay away from distorting what I actually said.

These days, if you believe in God, defend your national interests and don't want to live in the eu paradise, you're considered a right-wing extremist.

Gays, drugs,the destruction of family values - this is what an "honest, normal individual" means.

No wonder b92 joined the western-american propaganda chorus...

There's a b92 in a every eastern european country. Hang on serbs! They only want your economic independence.

@Peggy

I don't think investigating any religious institution should be taboo.

BTW, Szemi - we got an Albanian hedgehog who has visions to be Hungarian-Polish one... but poor thing does not know the word "wêgierski", see "je¿ ungaropolski". I was ROFL.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=70920

Otherwise - like my "Japanese"(he-he-he) alterego did say: your idea who the Orthodox Jews are is 100% incorrect. Think marginal, unimportant nut cases with more American background than anything else. Born again nuts... God save us from anyone, who was born more, than once.

@Peggy.

My answer is in the post you quoted.