Ambassador confirms China's Kosovo stance

? Albanians know Chinese very well. Once upon a time we were "brothers" and Albanian support to China in the UN was crutial.
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I don't even know where to begin on this one.
The word "brothers" got me laughing so much I couldn't see straight. Then I read how Albania was crucial to China. I am still getting my bearings.

might is right?


If that is the case, Taiwan would have been under Bejing boot long ago. ps, I forgot that Bejing can never take Taiwan with conventional means, unless it uses nukes to level the Island.
No guts, no glory.

"China does not support Serbia out of friendship alone, but also because this principle of one of the most important elements of its foreign policy."

The Chinese ambassador is not living in the real world. What principles is he referring to? Communist principles? Comrade Mao Ce Dung and Ten Sia Ping? Albanians know Chinese very well. Once upon a time we were "brothers" and Albanian support to China in the UN was crutial. It is funny to see how some foreign diplomats trying to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves. What is China doing about its territorial and soverignity over Taiwan even they speak the same language. Clean your house first ambassador!

Amb. Wei stressed that respect of a country's sovereignty and territorial integrity is still one of the key principles of international order. If the rest of the world, i.e., US/EU did the same, we would not have frozen conflicts, and the establishment of black holes, like an attempted "Kosova". The imperialists will never learn, until they go bankrupt, and are unable to pursue their nation building projects anymore. Thank you, Kina.
(winston, 10 November 2010 16:57)

I think everytbody is respecting the territorial integrity of Serbia and Kosovo, including US/EU... not sure where you found that they are not respecting it.

China's house is just fine, EA. Why do you have a hard time accepting that not everyone (nation) supports the KiM Albanian's attempted land grab? They are taking a principled stance on respect of territorial integrity - what principled stance did America take, might is right?

"China does not support Serbia out of friendship alone, but also because this principle of one of the most important elements of its foreign policy."

"...and also because we don't wanna set a precedent for our own minorities (Tibet) or giving an implicit green light for our breakaway province (Taiwan)." (he forgot to say that)

Amb. Wei stressed that respect of a country's sovereignty and territorial integrity is still one of the key principles of international order. If the rest of the world, i.e., US/EU did the same, we would not have frozen conflicts, and the establishment of black holes, like an attempted "Kosova". The imperialists will never learn, until they go bankrupt, and are unable to pursue their nation building projects anymore. Thank you, Kina.

Now there is left Spain to finish the 5th round of who is against Kosovas independence. After Spain there will start the 6th round Romania, Slovakia, Grece, Qipro, Spain, + China and Russia and on and on and on. Maybe some time in 2000 years from now Albanians may change their mind, who knows?

Anybody spending their vacations in China then?

This means NO UN Seat for the Kosovo Albanian Separatists.

Thanks to Russia and China

"Anybody spending their vacations in China then?
(miri, 10 November 2010 22:17)"

Why not? The country is even larger than the US. Besides breathtaking sceneries, they also have thousand-year-old cultural monuments that you don't see in Yankee Land.

Anybody spending their vacations in China then?
(miri, 10 November 2010 22:17)
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Actually I was over at the Chinese consulate yesterday for a visa application and yes, plenty of people there for the same thing.
Well, I can only speak for Australians applying for visas but I am guessing there would be a similar situation over there too.

…... What is China doing about its territorial and soverignity over Taiwan even they speak the same language. Clean your house first ambassador!
(EA, 10 November 2010 16:57)


If that is the case, Taiwan would have been under Bejing boot long ago. ps, I forgot that Bejing can never take Taiwan with conventional means, unless it uses nukes to level the Island.
No guts, no glory.
(Agim Kelmendi, 10 November 2010 19:33)


For the exceptionally ignorant, here is the very latest news from that region. China has BOOTED the US out of the South China Sea and there is nothing stopping it from taking Taiwan by force if so wished. But the Chinese are smart and will allow a slow integration with the mainland. Taiwan is to the Chinese’s what Kosovo is to the Serbs so they are not going to bomb their own people and destroy an economy that’s vibrant.

Your delightful US is now grovelling to Australia to establish friendly ports and allow access to some military facilities, but should the Chinese wish to scuttle that plan they can by simply saying we will not buy anymore of your resources and that’s that. If Australia refuses to cooperate, then its economy will plummet and unemployment soar – it’s the only western country that is not in a recession thanks to Bejing.

"It is funny to see how some foreign diplomats trying to show themselves more
Serbs than the Serbs themselves. What is China doing about its territorial and
soverignity over Taiwan even they speak the same language. Clean your house
first ambassador!
(EA, 10 November 2010 16:57) "

You say it is funny, but I would bet you really don't find the Chinese blocking
of "Kosova" funny in the least. More likely you are livid to the core.

As for sovereignty over Taiwan and your advice to the Chinese to clean their own house first, well, why else do you think Beijing has adopted an avowedly
anti-"Kosova" stance? They will not recognize Pristina (including UN entry
should the latter dare to apply) precisely because of the implications not only
for Taiwan but also for Tibet and Xinjiang. Which works to Serbia's advantage.

The number of more than 2 million people boycotting sandals "Made in China" puts even the strongest economy to their knees!
(Hashim, 11 November 2010 11:45)

Nominated for the best joke of the millenium! :)

With your "outstanding intelligence" how did you get to the above conclusion?

Tell us your tricks please!. It is an well know fact that Taiwanese are Chinese which if you like paralelism Kosovo Albanians and Albanians in Albania are ONE NATION. It would be understandble if Albanians in Albania would claim Kosovo. Serbia hasn't got the slightest chance to return its sovereignity/territorial integrity over Kosovo. Claiming the oposite means INSANITY.
(EA, 11 November 2010 14:30

Yes, Taiwanese are ethnic Chinese, but so are the Vietnamese people. The point is that Taiwan is Chinese territory just like Hong Kong and both are very dear to China. In fact China waited 99 years to get Hong Kong back and there were protests against this, but China got its way.
As I said before, Kosovo has NOTHING to bargain with – it has no minerals or water resources, no industry; just a small subsistence farming “economy” with the main source of “income” from EU aid. These “talks” are taking place so that the financial burden can be lifted from the EU by allowing Albos to leave their paradise and to seek work in Serbia proper. Kosovo has nothing to trade unless you mean contraband substances.
What does that tell you? Do I have to paint you a picture? If you think that these talks are about Serbia recognizing an independent Kosovo then you are living in fantasyland.
What no comment about the US being given the boot out of the south china sea? This must really hurt to know that the United States of Windbags is coming apart, but there is more. After the printing presses are stopped and the $600 billion is spent and the economy has not kicked started then its bye, bye time.

There is no need for priting presses as investors are fighting to lend money to the US.
(icj1, 12 November 2010 04:37)

That was the case a long time back, but not today. The vast majority of lenders are reducing their exposure and risk to the US and its dollars. Many Asian counties are now putting aside gold just in case. For that matter Russia has stashed huge amounts of reserves in Swiss banks for this very reason.
The $600 billion the US is about to release to kick start the economy is PRINTED money only and not backed by invested funds from overseas/lenders. When you start printing money it like a heroin addict; you don’t stop there you have to print more and more.

(EA, 12 November 2010 01:04)

Your posting is absolutely correct.
Serbia will not recognize an independent Kosovo and your suggestion that the talks are a smoke screen to completely stifle “outside interference” is correct. On the issue of further recognition, when you get small and impoverished pacific islands recognizing you then you are starting to “scrap the bottom of the barrel” so to speak. These talks are designed to go around and around in circles, but what I said about the EU and money is also true – it’s running out and there are too many mouths to feed. 30 years ago there were 15 EU states and only two or three received assistance, today there are more with their hand out then there are creating wealth to have money to hand out.
Let’s be honest, Kosovo is an impoverished region; it has nothing of value otherwise the US/EU would have opened industry there. The only thing they have opened is Camp Bondsteel.
You’re correct again when you say that Serbia wanted these talks, but it is also common knowledge that the US did not. This changed with the UN Resolution being altered - compromises on all sides. The US could not rig the numbers in the UN and could not take the risk of the Resolution being passed and being humiliated on the world stage by a small country and it’s not to Serbia’s advantage to do something like that. The US is still a large and powerful country compared to Serbia.
Time is what Serbia is playing for because there will be enormous changes are in the wind in the next year or two.

With your "outstanding intelligence" how did you get to the above conclusion?

Tell us your tricks please!. It is an well know fact that Taiwanese are Chinese which if you like paralelism Kosovo Albanians and Albanians in Albania are ONE NATION. It would be understandble if Albanians in Albania would claim Kosovo. Serbia hasn't got the slightest chance to return its sovereignity/territorial integrity over Kosovo. Claiming the oposite means INSANITY.
(EA, 11 November 2010 14:30)

EA, you are claiming someone is not intelligent? That is really funny. I've been amused by your "comments" for a long time and let me tell you, they couldn't be further from what is conventionally known as intelligent. Your comments are emotionally driven and are ripe with schemas of analogy and other egocentric processes. You can only see things from Albanian eyes. To be intelligent one must eschew schematic thinking and be a global thinker. China's support is huge for Serbia and any sane Albanian would love to have China's support. International politics and pizza don't mix!

Anybody spending their vacations in China then?
(miri, 10 November 2010 22:17)

As a matter of fact, miri, yes we are. Not only are we spending our holiday, but some of us actually live here.

You should try it. I have grew up in the UK, lived Canada, studied in America and was frequent in France, but China has to be one of the best places I have ever lived. I loved living in Serbia very much, as well.

Take that as you wish. A whole lot of westerners here will undoubtedly concur with me.

People Republic of China reps used Albanian seat to represend themselves in the UN for a while before they were recognized under this name.....

So please spare us your "laughing", since you have no clue of this matter.
(Denis, 11 November 2010 21:56)
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So without Albania there would be no China.
I am still laughing.
How the brotherhood working out for you?

"If you think that these talks are about Serbia recognizing an independent Kosovo then you are living in fantasyland."

sj,

To me me these talks very likely will be a waste of time until Serbia recognises Kosovo independence. Coming back to your point whether Kosovo Albanians are thinking that the talks are about Serbia recognition of Kosovo independence do you think that these talks are about Serbia re-establishment of sovereignity and territorial integrity over Kosovo? If your answer is a yes I have very great concerns about the political INSANITY. Remember that it has been Serbia who demanded these talks. I haven't got the slightest doubt that Serbia's aim is to slow down further Kosovo recognition and frustate the public opinion.

A broken old record, turning and turning again and again. Why do Romania, China, Cyprus and Greece take turns every week to reaffirm their stance as a champions of democracy and keepers of international law?

I don't even know where to begin on this one.
The word "brothers" got me laughing so much I couldn't see straight. Then I read how Albania was crucial to China. I am still getting my bearings.
(Peggy, 10 November 2010 20:48)

The People's Republic of China, is known today in the UN (thus in the world) under this name due to the Albanian sponsored UN resolution 2758.

People Republic of China reps used Albanian seat to represend themselves in the UN for a while before they were recognized under this name.....

So please spare us your "laughing", since you have no clue of this matter.

Thats great news for Kosovo. We thank China for considering the recognition of Kosovo asap! These serbs have no idea what diplomatic language really means an interpret it wrongly. The number of more than 2 million people boycotting sandals "Made in China" puts even the strongest economy to their knees!

"Taiwan is to the Chinese’s what Kosovo is to the Serbs"

(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

sj,

With your "outstanding intelligence" how did you get to the above conclusion?

Tell us your tricks please!. It is an well know fact that Taiwanese are Chinese which if you like paralelism Kosovo Albanians and Albanians in Albania are ONE NATION. It would be understandble if Albanians in Albania would claim Kosovo. Serbia hasn't got the slightest chance to return its sovereignity/territorial integrity over Kosovo. Claiming the oposite means INSANITY.

For the exceptionally ignorant, here is the very latest news from that region. China has BOOTED the US out of the South China Sea
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Sorry, I am exceptionally ignorant and missed this… where did you see this? pleeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase illuminate us. This is huge. I'm sure after this divine news we are going to see thousands or millions of people running to immigrate in the Chinese paradise.


and there is nothing stopping it from taking Taiwan by force if so wished.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Yeah.... when was the last time you checked the military resources each side has available ?


But the Chinese are smart and will allow a slow integration with the mainland. Taiwan is to the Chinese’s what Kosovo is to the Serbs so they are not going to bomb their own people and destroy an economy that’s vibrant.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Here you got it correct. They are not idiots to do what you suggested above. Taiwan integrated or not integrated, China is a great nation that does not go to adventures like Serbia did in the past.


Your delightful US is now grovelling to Australia to establish friendly ports and allow access to some military facilities, but should the Chinese wish to scuttle that plan they can by simply saying we will not buy anymore of your resources and that’s that.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Why should the Chinese do that ? To please you and damage themselves ? China is a rational player and bases policies on pragmatism, not fanaticism like Serbia does even to the cost of hurting themselves without any gain.


If Australia refuses to cooperate, then its economy will plummet and unemployment soar – it’s the only western country that is not in a recession thanks to Bejing.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

China is going to force Australia to cooperate ?!!!! ha, ha,ha...

There is enough demand from others and Australia has a well diversified economy. Don't worry about the other side of the globe. There are enough issues in the Balkans for you to deal with China and Australia.

After the printing presses are stopped and the $600 billion is spent and the economy has not kicked started then its bye, bye time.
(sj, 11 November 2010 21:24)

There is no need for priting presses as investors are fighting to lend money to the US.

Let’s be honest, Kosovo is an impoverished region; it has nothing of value otherwise the US/EU would have opened industry there. The only thing they have opened is Camp Bondsteel.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

You are fully correct… that’s why EU/US could not support the idea of endless talks on Kosovo status which would have required them to keep tens of thousands of soldiers on the ground for something like the above. So between forcing 2,000,000 people to live under Serbia or forcing 100,000 people to live under Kosovo, of course no rational mind that cares about resources would have chosen the first, just to please Serbia’s ego.


You’re correct again when you say that Serbia wanted these talks, but it is also common knowledge that the US did not.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

Yes, it’s common knowledge that US did not and still does not want talks about status. So everything else will be discussed except status.


This changed with the UN Resolution being altered - compromises on all sides. The US could not rig the numbers in the UN and could not take the risk of the Resolution being passed and being humiliated on the world stage by a small country and it’s not to Serbia’s advantage to do something like that.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

Not sure what “rig the numbers in the UN” mean ?

In any case you got it the wrong way. US/EU gave Serbia an honorable exit vs. the humiliation of the defeat. It was Serbia's resolution that was watered down, not the other way around. For sure both sides knew what the vote’s result would have been for Serbia’s original resolution (they had more than a month to unofficially poll UN members). As the result of the vote for WB and IMF showed, there are 109 countries which support Kosovo. So the vote of Serbia’s original resolution was a foregone conclusion that only irrational people like Vuk would not accept. But Serbia was lucky that Tadic took over to prevent in the last minute another adventure like the one at the ICJ.


The US is still a large and powerful country compared to Serbia. Time is what Serbia is playing for because there will be enormous changes are in the wind in the next year or two.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

What does your crystal ball say ?

Amb. Wei stressed that respect of a country's sovereignty and territorial integrity is still one of the key principles of international order. If the rest of the world, i.e., US/EU did the same, we would not have frozen conflicts, and the establishment of black holes, like an attempted "Kosova". The imperialists will never learn, until they go bankrupt, and are unable to pursue their nation building projects anymore. Thank you, Kina.

China's house is just fine, EA. Why do you have a hard time accepting that not everyone (nation) supports the KiM Albanian's attempted land grab? They are taking a principled stance on respect of territorial integrity - what principled stance did America take, might is right?

? Albanians know Chinese very well. Once upon a time we were "brothers" and Albanian support to China in the UN was crutial.
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I don't even know where to begin on this one.
The word "brothers" got me laughing so much I couldn't see straight. Then I read how Albania was crucial to China. I am still getting my bearings.

Anybody spending their vacations in China then?

"China does not support Serbia out of friendship alone, but also because this principle of one of the most important elements of its foreign policy."

The Chinese ambassador is not living in the real world. What principles is he referring to? Communist principles? Comrade Mao Ce Dung and Ten Sia Ping? Albanians know Chinese very well. Once upon a time we were "brothers" and Albanian support to China in the UN was crutial. It is funny to see how some foreign diplomats trying to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves. What is China doing about its territorial and soverignity over Taiwan even they speak the same language. Clean your house first ambassador!

"China does not support Serbia out of friendship alone, but also because this principle of one of the most important elements of its foreign policy."

"...and also because we don't wanna set a precedent for our own minorities (Tibet) or giving an implicit green light for our breakaway province (Taiwan)." (he forgot to say that)

Now there is left Spain to finish the 5th round of who is against Kosovas independence. After Spain there will start the 6th round Romania, Slovakia, Grece, Qipro, Spain, + China and Russia and on and on and on. Maybe some time in 2000 years from now Albanians may change their mind, who knows?

might is right?


If that is the case, Taiwan would have been under Bejing boot long ago. ps, I forgot that Bejing can never take Taiwan with conventional means, unless it uses nukes to level the Island.
No guts, no glory.

Amb. Wei stressed that respect of a country's sovereignty and territorial integrity is still one of the key principles of international order. If the rest of the world, i.e., US/EU did the same, we would not have frozen conflicts, and the establishment of black holes, like an attempted "Kosova". The imperialists will never learn, until they go bankrupt, and are unable to pursue their nation building projects anymore. Thank you, Kina.
(winston, 10 November 2010 16:57)

I think everytbody is respecting the territorial integrity of Serbia and Kosovo, including US/EU... not sure where you found that they are not respecting it.

Thats great news for Kosovo. We thank China for considering the recognition of Kosovo asap! These serbs have no idea what diplomatic language really means an interpret it wrongly. The number of more than 2 million people boycotting sandals "Made in China" puts even the strongest economy to their knees!

"Taiwan is to the Chinese’s what Kosovo is to the Serbs"

(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

sj,

With your "outstanding intelligence" how did you get to the above conclusion?

Tell us your tricks please!. It is an well know fact that Taiwanese are Chinese which if you like paralelism Kosovo Albanians and Albanians in Albania are ONE NATION. It would be understandble if Albanians in Albania would claim Kosovo. Serbia hasn't got the slightest chance to return its sovereignity/territorial integrity over Kosovo. Claiming the oposite means INSANITY.

I don't even know where to begin on this one.
The word "brothers" got me laughing so much I couldn't see straight. Then I read how Albania was crucial to China. I am still getting my bearings.
(Peggy, 10 November 2010 20:48)

The People's Republic of China, is known today in the UN (thus in the world) under this name due to the Albanian sponsored UN resolution 2758.

People Republic of China reps used Albanian seat to represend themselves in the UN for a while before they were recognized under this name.....

So please spare us your "laughing", since you have no clue of this matter.

After the printing presses are stopped and the $600 billion is spent and the economy has not kicked started then its bye, bye time.
(sj, 11 November 2010 21:24)

There is no need for priting presses as investors are fighting to lend money to the US.

"If you think that these talks are about Serbia recognizing an independent Kosovo then you are living in fantasyland."

sj,

To me me these talks very likely will be a waste of time until Serbia recognises Kosovo independence. Coming back to your point whether Kosovo Albanians are thinking that the talks are about Serbia recognition of Kosovo independence do you think that these talks are about Serbia re-establishment of sovereignity and territorial integrity over Kosovo? If your answer is a yes I have very great concerns about the political INSANITY. Remember that it has been Serbia who demanded these talks. I haven't got the slightest doubt that Serbia's aim is to slow down further Kosovo recognition and frustate the public opinion.

There is no need for priting presses as investors are fighting to lend money to the US.
(icj1, 12 November 2010 04:37)

That was the case a long time back, but not today. The vast majority of lenders are reducing their exposure and risk to the US and its dollars. Many Asian counties are now putting aside gold just in case. For that matter Russia has stashed huge amounts of reserves in Swiss banks for this very reason.
The $600 billion the US is about to release to kick start the economy is PRINTED money only and not backed by invested funds from overseas/lenders. When you start printing money it like a heroin addict; you don’t stop there you have to print more and more.

(EA, 12 November 2010 01:04)

Your posting is absolutely correct.
Serbia will not recognize an independent Kosovo and your suggestion that the talks are a smoke screen to completely stifle “outside interference” is correct. On the issue of further recognition, when you get small and impoverished pacific islands recognizing you then you are starting to “scrap the bottom of the barrel” so to speak. These talks are designed to go around and around in circles, but what I said about the EU and money is also true – it’s running out and there are too many mouths to feed. 30 years ago there were 15 EU states and only two or three received assistance, today there are more with their hand out then there are creating wealth to have money to hand out.
Let’s be honest, Kosovo is an impoverished region; it has nothing of value otherwise the US/EU would have opened industry there. The only thing they have opened is Camp Bondsteel.
You’re correct again when you say that Serbia wanted these talks, but it is also common knowledge that the US did not. This changed with the UN Resolution being altered - compromises on all sides. The US could not rig the numbers in the UN and could not take the risk of the Resolution being passed and being humiliated on the world stage by a small country and it’s not to Serbia’s advantage to do something like that. The US is still a large and powerful country compared to Serbia.
Time is what Serbia is playing for because there will be enormous changes are in the wind in the next year or two.

…... What is China doing about its territorial and soverignity over Taiwan even they speak the same language. Clean your house first ambassador!
(EA, 10 November 2010 16:57)


If that is the case, Taiwan would have been under Bejing boot long ago. ps, I forgot that Bejing can never take Taiwan with conventional means, unless it uses nukes to level the Island.
No guts, no glory.
(Agim Kelmendi, 10 November 2010 19:33)


For the exceptionally ignorant, here is the very latest news from that region. China has BOOTED the US out of the South China Sea and there is nothing stopping it from taking Taiwan by force if so wished. But the Chinese are smart and will allow a slow integration with the mainland. Taiwan is to the Chinese’s what Kosovo is to the Serbs so they are not going to bomb their own people and destroy an economy that’s vibrant.

Your delightful US is now grovelling to Australia to establish friendly ports and allow access to some military facilities, but should the Chinese wish to scuttle that plan they can by simply saying we will not buy anymore of your resources and that’s that. If Australia refuses to cooperate, then its economy will plummet and unemployment soar – it’s the only western country that is not in a recession thanks to Bejing.

"It is funny to see how some foreign diplomats trying to show themselves more
Serbs than the Serbs themselves. What is China doing about its territorial and
soverignity over Taiwan even they speak the same language. Clean your house
first ambassador!
(EA, 10 November 2010 16:57) "

You say it is funny, but I would bet you really don't find the Chinese blocking
of "Kosova" funny in the least. More likely you are livid to the core.

As for sovereignty over Taiwan and your advice to the Chinese to clean their own house first, well, why else do you think Beijing has adopted an avowedly
anti-"Kosova" stance? They will not recognize Pristina (including UN entry
should the latter dare to apply) precisely because of the implications not only
for Taiwan but also for Tibet and Xinjiang. Which works to Serbia's advantage.

This means NO UN Seat for the Kosovo Albanian Separatists.

Thanks to Russia and China

"Anybody spending their vacations in China then?
(miri, 10 November 2010 22:17)"

Why not? The country is even larger than the US. Besides breathtaking sceneries, they also have thousand-year-old cultural monuments that you don't see in Yankee Land.

For the exceptionally ignorant, here is the very latest news from that region. China has BOOTED the US out of the South China Sea
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Sorry, I am exceptionally ignorant and missed this… where did you see this? pleeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase illuminate us. This is huge. I'm sure after this divine news we are going to see thousands or millions of people running to immigrate in the Chinese paradise.


and there is nothing stopping it from taking Taiwan by force if so wished.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Yeah.... when was the last time you checked the military resources each side has available ?


But the Chinese are smart and will allow a slow integration with the mainland. Taiwan is to the Chinese’s what Kosovo is to the Serbs so they are not going to bomb their own people and destroy an economy that’s vibrant.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Here you got it correct. They are not idiots to do what you suggested above. Taiwan integrated or not integrated, China is a great nation that does not go to adventures like Serbia did in the past.


Your delightful US is now grovelling to Australia to establish friendly ports and allow access to some military facilities, but should the Chinese wish to scuttle that plan they can by simply saying we will not buy anymore of your resources and that’s that.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

Why should the Chinese do that ? To please you and damage themselves ? China is a rational player and bases policies on pragmatism, not fanaticism like Serbia does even to the cost of hurting themselves without any gain.


If Australia refuses to cooperate, then its economy will plummet and unemployment soar – it’s the only western country that is not in a recession thanks to Bejing.
(sj, 10 November 2010 22:52)

China is going to force Australia to cooperate ?!!!! ha, ha,ha...

There is enough demand from others and Australia has a well diversified economy. Don't worry about the other side of the globe. There are enough issues in the Balkans for you to deal with China and Australia.

Anybody spending their vacations in China then?
(miri, 10 November 2010 22:17)
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Actually I was over at the Chinese consulate yesterday for a visa application and yes, plenty of people there for the same thing.
Well, I can only speak for Australians applying for visas but I am guessing there would be a similar situation over there too.

People Republic of China reps used Albanian seat to represend themselves in the UN for a while before they were recognized under this name.....

So please spare us your "laughing", since you have no clue of this matter.
(Denis, 11 November 2010 21:56)
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So without Albania there would be no China.
I am still laughing.
How the brotherhood working out for you?

A broken old record, turning and turning again and again. Why do Romania, China, Cyprus and Greece take turns every week to reaffirm their stance as a champions of democracy and keepers of international law?

The number of more than 2 million people boycotting sandals "Made in China" puts even the strongest economy to their knees!
(Hashim, 11 November 2010 11:45)

Nominated for the best joke of the millenium! :)

With your "outstanding intelligence" how did you get to the above conclusion?

Tell us your tricks please!. It is an well know fact that Taiwanese are Chinese which if you like paralelism Kosovo Albanians and Albanians in Albania are ONE NATION. It would be understandble if Albanians in Albania would claim Kosovo. Serbia hasn't got the slightest chance to return its sovereignity/territorial integrity over Kosovo. Claiming the oposite means INSANITY.
(EA, 11 November 2010 14:30

Yes, Taiwanese are ethnic Chinese, but so are the Vietnamese people. The point is that Taiwan is Chinese territory just like Hong Kong and both are very dear to China. In fact China waited 99 years to get Hong Kong back and there were protests against this, but China got its way.
As I said before, Kosovo has NOTHING to bargain with – it has no minerals or water resources, no industry; just a small subsistence farming “economy” with the main source of “income” from EU aid. These “talks” are taking place so that the financial burden can be lifted from the EU by allowing Albos to leave their paradise and to seek work in Serbia proper. Kosovo has nothing to trade unless you mean contraband substances.
What does that tell you? Do I have to paint you a picture? If you think that these talks are about Serbia recognizing an independent Kosovo then you are living in fantasyland.
What no comment about the US being given the boot out of the south china sea? This must really hurt to know that the United States of Windbags is coming apart, but there is more. After the printing presses are stopped and the $600 billion is spent and the economy has not kicked started then its bye, bye time.

With your "outstanding intelligence" how did you get to the above conclusion?

Tell us your tricks please!. It is an well know fact that Taiwanese are Chinese which if you like paralelism Kosovo Albanians and Albanians in Albania are ONE NATION. It would be understandble if Albanians in Albania would claim Kosovo. Serbia hasn't got the slightest chance to return its sovereignity/territorial integrity over Kosovo. Claiming the oposite means INSANITY.
(EA, 11 November 2010 14:30)

EA, you are claiming someone is not intelligent? That is really funny. I've been amused by your "comments" for a long time and let me tell you, they couldn't be further from what is conventionally known as intelligent. Your comments are emotionally driven and are ripe with schemas of analogy and other egocentric processes. You can only see things from Albanian eyes. To be intelligent one must eschew schematic thinking and be a global thinker. China's support is huge for Serbia and any sane Albanian would love to have China's support. International politics and pizza don't mix!

Anybody spending their vacations in China then?
(miri, 10 November 2010 22:17)

As a matter of fact, miri, yes we are. Not only are we spending our holiday, but some of us actually live here.

You should try it. I have grew up in the UK, lived Canada, studied in America and was frequent in France, but China has to be one of the best places I have ever lived. I loved living in Serbia very much, as well.

Take that as you wish. A whole lot of westerners here will undoubtedly concur with me.

Let’s be honest, Kosovo is an impoverished region; it has nothing of value otherwise the US/EU would have opened industry there. The only thing they have opened is Camp Bondsteel.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

You are fully correct… that’s why EU/US could not support the idea of endless talks on Kosovo status which would have required them to keep tens of thousands of soldiers on the ground for something like the above. So between forcing 2,000,000 people to live under Serbia or forcing 100,000 people to live under Kosovo, of course no rational mind that cares about resources would have chosen the first, just to please Serbia’s ego.


You’re correct again when you say that Serbia wanted these talks, but it is also common knowledge that the US did not.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

Yes, it’s common knowledge that US did not and still does not want talks about status. So everything else will be discussed except status.


This changed with the UN Resolution being altered - compromises on all sides. The US could not rig the numbers in the UN and could not take the risk of the Resolution being passed and being humiliated on the world stage by a small country and it’s not to Serbia’s advantage to do something like that.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

Not sure what “rig the numbers in the UN” mean ?

In any case you got it the wrong way. US/EU gave Serbia an honorable exit vs. the humiliation of the defeat. It was Serbia's resolution that was watered down, not the other way around. For sure both sides knew what the vote’s result would have been for Serbia’s original resolution (they had more than a month to unofficially poll UN members). As the result of the vote for WB and IMF showed, there are 109 countries which support Kosovo. So the vote of Serbia’s original resolution was a foregone conclusion that only irrational people like Vuk would not accept. But Serbia was lucky that Tadic took over to prevent in the last minute another adventure like the one at the ICJ.


The US is still a large and powerful country compared to Serbia. Time is what Serbia is playing for because there will be enormous changes are in the wind in the next year or two.
(sj, 12 November 2010 10:26)

What does your crystal ball say ?