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Wednesday, 03.11.2010.

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Republicans take House of Representatives

A victorious Republican Party has swept President Obama’s Democrats out of the House of Representatives, euronews reports.

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Joe A

pre 13 godina

(Kapetan Amerika, 5 November 2010 15:00)

I see as a true American you take pride and pleasure out of bombing a place. Like in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo (depleted uranium), what have you not bombed the last 50 years?

Oh yes, you have free speech. Won't serve you any good when your economy will hit rock bottom pretty soon.
See where your precious declaration of independence will get you then.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"You must have forgotten that america is full of first or second generation Immigrants.

(Je¿ amerykanski, 5 November 2010 13:05) "

This is an enormous advantage for the country - for example, 2nd-3rd generation Vietnamese are currently setting up businesses in Vietnam and utilizing their contacts in the US to make money. And, incidentally, improve relations between the countries in a way that diplomats never could.

On the other hand, having native-speakers available for almost any language-intensive work (e.g., translating) means that kids don't see any value in learning a foreign language. And then, there's always the problem of "which foreign language?" Now, in Prague, for example, it's a different case entirely. Anyone with any ambition at all has to know English, if only because it's the official language of the EU. Also, using it makes it possible to communicate with Latvians, Dutchmen, Albanians, etc. on the foreign trips people seem addicted to. So it's not uncommon at all to see people on the Metro with a grammar book open. The payoff is simply much greater for the speakers of a small country to learn English than for Americans to learn some other language. It makes an interesting hobby, but that's about it. Škoda (it's a pity).

Kapetan Amerika

pre 13 godina

"most Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?" (JOE)


We did very good at finding targets during the 1998-90. LOL. Also, the rights to express yourself IN ANY WAY you desire hold true in America as part of Persuit of Happines enshrined on Declaration of Independence.


To all:
I'm astounded to see most of commentators here affraid/happy with the change in the house of representatives in Washington. This is not news people, it happens all the time. Almost every two years. Nothing will change in general policies.

Bad Economics started with Clinton continued with Bush and no change with Obama.

Clinton (first a democratic majority in congress then with a republican congress) did his wars. Bush (with a republican first and then a democratic congress) did his wars. Obama has Afghanistan.

I remember when Bush beat Gore, Serbs celebrating all over Serbia. I remember Kosovars complaing about Bush. I even remember Albanians considering Bush the Kosovo Father of the nation. I remember Serbs happy to have Bush gone, then came Clintonka.

You see nothing changes, America is America. The Romarican Empire I call it. Like it or not.

Je¿ amerykanski

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 4 November 2010 18:08)
"Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European".
Hahaha, if there are simplistic people in this world then it's the Americans.
At least the guy knows Enlgish. The whole world knows English and other languages as well. Tell me, how many Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?
You are simplistic. Democrat, Republican, is is all the same. They both are in the pockets of big business. America is going down the drain. The rest of the world doesn't buy your toxic debt anymore, dumps the dollar and goes for gold.
(Joe A, 5 November 2010 09:38)

Well in fact the so called average Joe is very simple everywhere weather it is Burma,US or Russia for that matter.When you say that democrats and republicans are all the same you yourself prove to be very simple-minded.If america really went down the drain she would drag the other parts of the world because of her powerful and influential position,so do not be so happy.Otherwise there are enough good brains in US who can solve very critical situations.AS to English well it is spoken all over the world only due to economic influance of USA.So you shuold not brag about this fact while you parallely are critical of America.Your statement is full of contradictions.Otherwise there are many multilingual people in US as well.You must have forgotten that america is full of first or second generation Immigrants.Joe (that one without A or W after hs name I mean our one and only dear original Joe)himself speaks four languages and currently learns russian from lovely Irina.Most europeans are not good at geography either.Some weeks ago I played a quiz game together with my friends and two guys from sweden could not find Malmö on the map as opposed to my friend Gazsi who origines from India.So much about bright europeans.

jla

pre 13 godina

BTW, the Republican expected to head the investigative committee of the House has said he intends to go back and look at the Bush years - how did things go so bad? The Democrats (well, Obama) decided to focus on the current situation and the future, and gave Bush a pass. Things could get interesting, although I have an idea they'll try to cast as much blame on the then out-of-power Dems as possible. Could be interesting.
(Amer, 4 November 2010 18:29)

I wasn't suggesting that the recent elections were to cause our destruction. No, I just believe were toast regardless.

And as for your investigations, when I see a few tens of thousands of wall street bankers doing a perp walk along with their government approved enablers at the SEC and ratings agencies I might believe they're serious.

Until then I'll then I'm resigned to the reality that both parties are deeply involved in the biggest cover up and public fleecing the world has ever seen.

Joe A

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 4 November 2010 18:08)
"Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European".
Hahaha, if there are simplistic people in this world then it's the Americans.
At least the guy knows Enlgish. The whole world knows English and other languages as well. Tell me, how many Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?
You are simplistic. Democrat, Republican, is is all the same. They both are in the pockets of big business. America is going down the drain. The rest of the world doesn't buy your toxic debt anymore, dumps the dollar and goes for gold.

je¿ ungaropolski

pre 13 godina

seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century
(je¿ ungaropolski, 4 November 2010 15:22)

A hedgehog huffs and puffs. And bites. But is probably a harmless guy.

See here:

[link]

And after I burned my butt once real good with the "Henel" thing, I feel some guilt, too.
(Je¿ ¿idowski, 4 November 2010 17:20)

Well in fact the bitten person in this video tells the hedhog"Tutaj,teraz tu"(Here now here in polish)which makes me belive that this is an agressive polski je¿.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"No, we're past the point where this can be resolve at the ballet box ...

(jla, 4 November 2010 13:05) "

So you suggest ...? Some people really take losing an election poorly.

The coalition of parties known as "the Republican party" won big against the coalition of parties known as "the Democratic party." This has happened before, and we've survived. The country seems a little more ungovernable than before because now there are actually three approximately equal groups: Repubs, Dems, and "Independents." The I's (the Impatients? Immediate-Gratificationists?) don't have any real political philosophy. They vote emotionally, and when things are bad, they vote against the party in power. So, even though the approval ratings of the R's and D's are about equally bad, the I's are unhappy about the economy, and out go the D's. (Except in Massachusetts! And California, but the R candidates were so bad it's hard to tell what happened there.)

BTW, the Republican expected to head the investigative committee of the House has said he intends to go back and look at the Bush years - how did things go so bad? The Democrats (well, Obama) decided to focus on the current situation and the future, and gave Bush a pass. Things could get interesting, although I have an idea they'll try to cast as much blame on the then out-of-power Dems as possible. Could be interesting.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"THe US no longer has a middle class, the Republicans destroyed it."
Stanko

You attribute much too much power to the Republicans. Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European, who doesn't know the true situation in the US.
First of all the notion of belonging to the middle class is such an important thing in the American mentality that even people, who are not part of it feel that they belong to. The wide majority of Americans are considered middle class more than people in European countries, where the class mentality is still very acute and where it is still much harder to move from one class to a higher class.
As for the Republicans they were always considered more business freindly. It is the Democrates who like to increase taxes, what is not "middle class friendly".
It would be also important to distinguish between upper middle class and lower middle class. As for the lower middle class it did tremendeous self destruction in the last 10-20 years by living way above their means. They did it childishly by purchasing on credit cards forgetting that those debts have to be repayed. The other major sin was the real estate speculation, buy more than one property and flip it over after a short time with a profit. This worked for a short time but became a catastrophic strategy lately. And it will get worse for a while.
And lastly if the Republicans "destroyed" the middle class how do you esplain that they gained so much 2 days ago? If you would be here and speak to people you would hear an awful lot of complains about the Democrats, your apparent heros.

Je¿ ¿idowski

pre 13 godina

seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century
(je¿ ungaropolski, 4 November 2010 15:22)

A hedgehog huffs and puffs. And bites. But is probably a harmless guy.

See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8viO8R-Kz4

And after I burned my butt once real good with the "Henel" thing, I feel some guilt, too.

je¿ ungaropolski

pre 13 godina

Sorry for the off-top.
(Je¿ Albanski, 4 November 2010 00:58)
While hedgehogs are not native to america (This fact I learned from you)seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century:However getting into new environment seems to have done a lot of harm to them especially on mental and moral levels.We shoul do our best to save these lost souls.Poor little animals.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"it's true that most of my fellow citizens are confounded"
jla

You seem to be confused even more. By the way who is that old man...your superhero?

jla

pre 13 godina

"However, what amazes me is just how brainwashed the average Joe is in the US. A report came over the radio from the US stating that people were dissatisfied with Obama but they elected the same group that had brought the US to its knees. Has it ever occurred to these simpletons to elect some other party? Who cares what party but get rid of this dinosaur of a system that they have the hide to call democratic then you might have real democracy."


While it's true that most of my fellow citizens are confounded by the constant stream of propaganda from all sides, it is also quite obvious that many a Serbian poster have succumbed to the same.

I'm 45 years old and never in my lifetime has my Country been governed from the right.

Reagan tried and got a bullet for his effort. Bush the lesser campaigned largely on non-interventionism and smaller government we see where that left us.

In our last presidential election we had but one man who espoused the notion that we are bankrupted, that our monetary policy ensured our enslavement and that imperialism is incompatible with small limited government. He got tarred an feathered by both sides of the ruling bi-factional elite and their willing accomplices in the media.

What a coincidence it was when shortly after he conceded the primary his prediction came to fruition and the economy collapsed, yet to this day I have not heard an apology from those who taunted him. Quite the contrary, they still mock him as a crazy old man.

As for your 'real democracy' when has it ever worked? Universal suffrage and the direct election of Senators have destroyed this Republic by allowing those who have no skin in the game an equal voice with the productive.

No, we're past the point where this can be resolve at the ballet box, as the number of those who either work for the government or depend on it has eclipsed that of those who actually produce wealth...and they ain't about to vote against what they are told is in their interest.

massimo

pre 13 godina

Poor Ian (UK)!!! It seems to me that you are a not a friend of free election systems. As many leftists in every country you insult democracy when the majority of the people do not share your political point of view. By citing George Orwell's 1984, you remind me of a "socing" fan...Actually you should be a UK socialist (happily, nowadays, a little bit out of fashion). Bear in mind that we are living the 2010 AD. Have you missed the last 30-40 years?

Ataman

pre 13 godina

I was not surprised with the other guy quoting Julia Gorin but I cannot believe you would hold her as an authority on anything.
I think the Kosovo issue is the common thread among alot of people here esp Mike, an American and myself, an American.
(pss, 3 November 2010 21:22)

OK, explanation. The "other" guy is also me, LOL, just this time with absolutely no intent to tease Joe (the Hungarian Unitarian). I rather tease (mildly) someone else from our "gang". Hope he does not mind. Julia Gorin was carefully chosen as an example, my "target" knows precisely why. I do not agree obviously with many things she writes (see Obama, for instance) and some other things, too. But hey - this is America and as Republican she needs to say bold things to her peers "just in face".

I agree with her judgement about KLA, Thaçi and the circle around Joe DioGuardi.

What Joe DioGuardi does is very easy to explain psychologically. He is from a "double-trouble" background - not just son of an underdog Italian immigrant, but in addition to that we are talking about a minority within Italy with a disadvantage. He is of course American... but at one point he was probably "born again" as an Arbëreshë.

As much as this this could be sympathetic to Albanians... God should save us from any "born-again" nuts.

As I seen on a T-shirt: "I was born kinda OK the first and only time".

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

You obviously have no idea what Socialism is.
Ian, UK

Paradise on earth like Cuba or Venezuela, not to mention North-Korea. You definitely s/b in one of them.
(Joe, 3 November 2010 21:21)

You also obviously have no idea what socialism is and your comment proves that.

Je¿ Albanski

pre 13 godina

(Je¿ Jevrejski, 3 November 2010 18:42)
Julia Gorin? for real? hahahahahhahhaha
(pss, 3 November 2010 21:07)

Hmm.... Joe DioGuardi? for real? hahahahahhahhaha
One is for sure tough - Joe DioGuardi is definitely an "Albanski" Ёжи / Józsi ( = "Joe").

@Joe, the Unitarian: this time the hedgehog series of nicknames are totally unrelated to you, just wanted to bring some sour smiles.

And apropos, Ёж / Je¿ / hedgehog: not sure, why - but B92 missed a very sad news. On October 26 Paul died :(( May he land up in eternal coral fields of octopus paradise.

I also use this opportunity to remind - most octopuses we eat usually die in the process what I wold describe as first-degree animal cruelty. I would give few year term to the captors to build railroads in Siberia. Paul and few of his colleagues in zoos are the lucky few. In Chinese food stores of Bay Area I did see some pretty sickening scenes.

Can't understand the Chinese - with an animal kept and slaughtered so cruelly they essentially eat all the bad chemistry and bad karma they believe so much into. Not very logical.

Sorry for the off-top.

sj

pre 13 godina

With the Tea party these elections are a repeat of the days of Ross Perot. Then as now the general populace was dissatisfied with both parties but to stop the existing system falling apar, out of the forest came Ross Perot and his party. It’s all a means of trying to keep the 220 year old system from falling apart – one party with 2 conservative branches.

However, what amazes me is just how brainwashed the average Joe is in the US. A report came over the radio from the US stating that people were dissatisfied with Obama but they elected the same group that had brought the US to its knees. Has it ever occurred to these simpletons to elect some other party? Who cares what party but get rid of this dinosaur of a system that they have the hide to call democratic then you might have real democracy.

In the west we now have a system where in opposition say anything to get elected but in Government you continue as the previous administration. I recall Richard Perle being interviewd staright after Obama won. He said that “nothing would change during Obam’s first term of office – in fact it will look like George Bushes third term as President.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Joe, and ur point is ?? U were talking abt my country, so was my answer, but it looks like u can't get much out of ur box...
But yes, right u are all around, including in ur beloved Russia :) but not in Iran where u are bound to use...Switzerland's voice :)

pss

pre 13 godina

Let the Kosovo rest with that, please. No need to pull that "Kosovo" string on every possible and impossible occasion. It is not the center of the world and certainly not in this topic.
(Ataman, 3 November 2010 18:27)
I was not talking about 100% of the people but the overall policies of the parties. You do not find many topics that the majority of each party does support but the Kosovo issue is one of them.
I was not surprised with the other guy quoting Julia Gorin but I cannot believe you would hold her as an authority on anything.
I think the Kosovo issue is the common thread among alot of people here esp Mike, an American and myself, an American.

Joe

pre 13 godina

You obviously have no idea what Socialism is.
Ian, UK

Paradise on earth like Cuba or Venezuela, not to mention North-Korea. You definitely s/b in one of them.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

RE; Worse Elements of Society



As founder and president of the Albanian American Civic League, DioGuardi has been lobbying Capitol Hill since the 1980s to promote the Greater Albania agenda, starting with the “liberation” of Kosovo. A Feb. 1998 statement on the AACL website reads: “The Civic League issues a public declaration, ‘In Defense of the Albanian National Cause,’ in which it announces its support for the Kosova Liberation Army….”

The KLA is a narco-terrorist crime syndicate that traffics internationally in heroin, humans, weapons, cars, etc. — and has ties to a slew of garden-variety terrorists and radicals. A month after the “Kosovars” unilaterally declared Kosovo theirs in Feb. 2008, a Washington Times editorial titled “Europe’s New Jihadist Statelet?” reminded readers, “The KLA was among the first international terrorist groups linked to al Qaeda in the late 1990s.” It’s a warning bell that was sounded in the months after 9/11 by Wall St. Journal-Europe, in a piece titled “Al Qaeda’s Balkan Links.”

The equation is simple. Joe DioGuardi supports the KLA. The KLA is a criminal and terrorist organization. Therefore, Joe DioGuardi supports crime and terror. There is no easy way around it.

In May 1999, at the height of our bombing Europe on the KLA’s behalf, former counter-narcotics agent Michael Levine made the following comments in an interview with The New American magazine’s William Norman Grigg:

Backing the KLA is simply insane. My contacts within the DEA are quite frankly terrified, but there’s not much they can say without risking their jobs. These guys [the KLA] have a network that’s active on the streets of this country. The Albanian mob is a scary operation. In fact, the Mafia relied on Albanian hit-men to carry out a lot of their contracts. They’re the worst elements of society that you can imagine, and now, according to my sources in drug enforcement, they are politically protected.

It’s the same old story. Ten years ago we were arming and equipping the worst elements of the mujahideen in Afghanistan — drug traffickers, arms smugglers, anti-American terrorists. We later paid the price when the World Trade Center was bombed, and we learned that some of those responsible had been trained by us. Now we’re doing the same thing with the KLA, which is tied in with every known Middle and Far Eastern drug cartel. Interpol, Europol, and nearly every European intelligence and counter-narcotics agency has files open on drug syndicates that lead right to the KLA, and right to Albanian gangs in this country.


The artical failed to mention that the leadersip of Kosovo , namely Thaci and most of his followers are from the KLA, a terrorist organization.

bganon

pre 13 godina

Everytime I see those hillarious soccer mum style leaders of the tea party interviewed on any issue where the brain must be engaged I end up laughing my head off.

Take a look for yourselves on youtube. The tea party are a joke on the one hand and on the other a danger, they have already been co-opted by big business.

What they represent now (they used to represent something like libertariansim) is big business threatening the republicans that unless they make even more concessions to big conglomerates those same conglomerates will abandon the Republicans and support the tea party. We have already seen this with Fox. So either the Republicans are swallowed by their TP monster (and the US is in serious trouble) or the Republicans eventually manage to beat them down - having sold what remains of their integrity to big business. Great choice!

Its no wonder there is so much voter apathy in the US. Talk about a sick system that is poisoned by money, money, money...

Je¿ Jevrejski

pre 13 godina

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.
(pss, 3 November 2010 17:19)

OK, could not resist to post an article written by a well-known Republican Jew.

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2490

As she writes:

"The equation is simple. Joe DioGuardi supports the KLA. The KLA is a criminal and terrorist organization. Therefore, Joe DioGuardi supports crime and terror. There is no easy way around it."

Amen and thumbs-up to that. But I would not call it "support", at least not the way you understand.

johny

pre 13 godina

the Tea Baggers are already lining themselves up to run on separate tickets in 2012 if the rest of the GOP doesn't march in step with them. Splitting the party may be the best long-term strategy since it gets rid of the crazy FOX-News kooks while allowing the GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.
(Mike, 3 November 2010 15:06)

Agreed; although with the likes of Boehner and Cantor I wouldn't count too much on it.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.
(pss, 3 November 2010 17:19)

The people are divided regarding Kosovo question in each party - provided they do care. See the proof among Republicans, pro-Serbian Democrats are also known.

http://www.juliagorin.com

Let the Kosovo rest with that, please. No need to pull that "Kosovo" string on every possible and impossible occasion. It is not the center of the world and certainly not in this topic.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?
Ataman "

They don't cross themselves (Unitarians barely pray - they're the thinking man's religion).

Anyway - the whole Tea Party movement got its first impetus when Scott Brown won the special election in Massachusetts to replace Ted Kennedy. This was the end of the Democrats super-majority in the Senate, slowly everything down, painfully. The People, supposedly, had Sent a Message to Washington: just stop it! Yesterday, the People in Massachusetts seem to have experienced buyer's remorse. Last night they returned an all-Democratic congressional delegation to the House, re-elected a Democratic governor (the one I left to go vote for yesterday) and Democrats up and down the state administration. Even the candidate who lost to Brown in the Senate race won reelection as Attorney General. Brown (and Romney) were waltzing around the state for weeks if not months, campaigning for Republicans and TP supporters. All to no avail. So - this election may very well be an aberration. Obama showed himself during the presidential campaign to be a fast learner: he was not the best campaigner by far at the beginning, but he learned from his mistakes. So, it's possible we'll have nothing but gridlock for the next two years, but it's not inevitable.

Anyway, Governor Moonbeam won. Jerry Brown of California, who used to speak wildly of the possibilities of things like communication satellites and computers - back in the 1970s, when it was enough to brand him as a nut-job. Unlike Obama, he has more experience in government than almost anyone in the country - now, that will be a change we should be able to believe in.

pss

pre 13 godina

GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.
(Mike, 3 November 2010 15:06)
A moderate conservative party would be good, a moderate liberal party would be almost as good.
We have too many that have aligned along the poles which is a dangerous place to be. People were scared of the far right corner Bush was pushing the country, which is why they went so far to the left. Hopefully that pendulum will rest somewhere in the middle.

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?
Ataman

Left-to-right. The Orthodox...if I am correct...do it right-to-left.

winston

pre 13 godina

Ian UK, the Democrats lost because they imposed unpopular legislation on the American people - plain and simple. They did not listen to what Americans were saying, but proceeded to ram through their socialist ideology at all costs. Obama, a junior senator with 1/2 term experience, promised to change the way government worked, but turned out to be another "business as usual politician", the transparency he promised was a lie. He is more concerned about his ideology, legacy, and the way he envisions America, than what is the most important right now for the US - economy, jobs, debt. Instead of tackling those things, he went on a spending spree that way never be paid off. He, and his administration deserved this setback. The election was not about a new found love for Republicans, it was a referendum on Mr. Obama and his unpopular agenda. We shall see where the US goes from here, but in any case, it is always good when there is a balance of power in DC. On a personal note, congratulations to Kristen Gillibrand in her NY senate victory. I am not a democrat, but thank God that scum, corrupt, litte dirt bag DioGuardi lost.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"By the way, do you know how many american banks, companies we have in Switzerland? "
The Swiss

Rielly??? What a revelation!
But I have to bring you down to earth: American banks and companies are all over the world.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Was interesting to see two essentially failed businesswoman to be "recycled": Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina. We can say some "pro" but much more "contra" about Meg Whitman - however, the entire HP cheered as Carly Fiorina was fired. She was universally hated in the Silicon Valley.

@Joe: we called Fiorina "finom p*na" (no Serbian translation!). Not sure about being "finom" ( = "tasty"), thank God, did not try it (crossing myself both Orthodox and Catholic way, just to keep the harm away). But I stand firm with the rest. Stand?? OMG, I shouldn't say that.

Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?

Mike

pre 13 godina

So my country made a concerted lurch towards the populist right. Wonderful. The possible saving grace is that the Republicans risk standing divided between the GOP establishment and the newer Tea Party populism led by such visionaries as Caribou Barbie. While I feel little simpathy for the GOP in creating what amounts to an angry white reactionary movement, the Tea Baggers are already lining themselves up to run on separate tickets in 2012 if the rest of the GOP doesn't march in step with them. Splitting the party may be the best long-term strategy since it gets rid of the crazy FOX-News kooks while allowing the GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Did we impose anything on Switzerland so far? Oh yes, on your banks. It was time.
(Joe, 3 November 2010 13:47)

The old good Joe... Ever heard of Delaware offshore zone...., yes, Iforgot it, we just annexed it. Your ignorance is appealing. By the way, do you know how many american banks, companies we have in Switzerland? Wonder why...
I suggest you lauch a petition to fordid any of those to work in my country... Really appealing ignorance!!

Dave

pre 13 godina

So when did the Tea Party activists challenged Bush's financial policy which allowed the banks to destroy the global money markets?
(Leonidas, 3 November 2010 12:31)

The Tea Party's origins are precisely in this period. They certainly are/were not pro-Bush - their ideals lie closer to the militia movement than to neo-conservatism. They're also more isolationist - for long a strong tendency in American politics - than pro-war. If they can be co-opted then, as someone else has pointed out, they'll be "useful fools" for big business, but the individuals who make up the movement are so wild that it could go anywhere. Fascinating and, yet again, I am profoundly glad not to be an American.

Milan

pre 13 godina

Ian seems you are brainwashed by Gordon brown elitists. American media is 90% commu-liberal. Also the tea party are people that are angry at bush and Obama policies. This wasn't a republican vote. Plus the only real tea party candidate was Rand Paul. I'm sure communism in your eyes would be better. I know there are 500 million people that loved it (killed by communist policies). How about go to lewrockwell.com and read up om what a real capitalist society is. Not the social welfare warfare state america is.

Nenad

pre 13 godina

Can't wait to see how the Tea B*ggers will view the Boehner and the Republicans after they do nothing to improve the economy they're mostly responsible for wrecking, creating even more job loss. And when the Tea B*ggers are out of work and no longer have health insurance because of a Republican repeal, they'll wish they'd stuck with Obama and the Dems. Idiots.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"The Democrats lost for all the wrong reasons, Republican media spin, mass brainwashing, propaganda etc. It is pathetic!
Ian, UK

What is really pathetic is your total ignorance of the situation in the US.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Looks like the world will become a much more dangerous place. Tadic is now aligned with the far right so that is bad news for him. Having said that, I also believe it will accelerate the demise of the US. The world has had enough of US hegemony.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

There was better news for the Democrats in the Senate where the Republicans made only moderate gains, although including Tea Party candidates for the first time. But the Republicans have failed to take the 10 seats they needed to gain control of that chamber.

B92

Tea Party is quite an appropriate term in a Lewis Carroll sort of way for this bunch of mad people like Rick Santelli of the CNN and Fox news.Here's the summary from Wikipedia:

"A disillusioned group of U.S. citizens that blindly oppose whatever legislative and/or government policy they perceive as being leftist, but said legislation/policy is actually in their own best interest. 2. Unknowing puppets of capitalist corporations and their congressional silent partners used to derail any progressive movement in the US government and/or society".

So when did the Tea Party activists challenged Bush's financial policy which allowed the banks to destroy the global money markets? At what point did they challenged the Republicans' decision to enter the illegal wars in Iraq and Afganistan that has so far cost the US taxpayer trillions of dollars that could have been spent on domestic investment?

The Tea party is just another capitalist mouthpiece rewriting history to suit their own mentally-distotred view of the world.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Change course, which one this time, attack Iran, North Korea, install a star war 'defense' system at the doors of Russia, what else are they going to change to make this world unsafer.
The best change would be that you finally stop imposing your imperialism and pseudo democracy around the world !!

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

There was better news for the Democrats in the Senate where the Republicans made only moderate gains, although including Tea Party candidates for the first time. But the Republicans have failed to take the 10 seats they needed to gain control of that chamber.

B92

Tea Party is quite an appropriate term in a Lewis Carroll sort of way for this bunch of mad people like Rick Santelli of the CNN and Fox news.Here's the summary from Wikipedia:

"A disillusioned group of U.S. citizens that blindly oppose whatever legislative and/or government policy they perceive as being leftist, but said legislation/policy is actually in their own best interest. 2. Unknowing puppets of capitalist corporations and their congressional silent partners used to derail any progressive movement in the US government and/or society".

So when did the Tea Party activists challenged Bush's financial policy which allowed the banks to destroy the global money markets? At what point did they challenged the Republicans' decision to enter the illegal wars in Iraq and Afganistan that has so far cost the US taxpayer trillions of dollars that could have been spent on domestic investment?

The Tea party is just another capitalist mouthpiece rewriting history to suit their own mentally-distotred view of the world.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Change course, which one this time, attack Iran, North Korea, install a star war 'defense' system at the doors of Russia, what else are they going to change to make this world unsafer.
The best change would be that you finally stop imposing your imperialism and pseudo democracy around the world !!

Milan

pre 13 godina

Ian seems you are brainwashed by Gordon brown elitists. American media is 90% commu-liberal. Also the tea party are people that are angry at bush and Obama policies. This wasn't a republican vote. Plus the only real tea party candidate was Rand Paul. I'm sure communism in your eyes would be better. I know there are 500 million people that loved it (killed by communist policies). How about go to lewrockwell.com and read up om what a real capitalist society is. Not the social welfare warfare state america is.

Nenad

pre 13 godina

Can't wait to see how the Tea B*ggers will view the Boehner and the Republicans after they do nothing to improve the economy they're mostly responsible for wrecking, creating even more job loss. And when the Tea B*ggers are out of work and no longer have health insurance because of a Republican repeal, they'll wish they'd stuck with Obama and the Dems. Idiots.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"The Democrats lost for all the wrong reasons, Republican media spin, mass brainwashing, propaganda etc. It is pathetic!
Ian, UK

What is really pathetic is your total ignorance of the situation in the US.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Looks like the world will become a much more dangerous place. Tadic is now aligned with the far right so that is bad news for him. Having said that, I also believe it will accelerate the demise of the US. The world has had enough of US hegemony.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Did we impose anything on Switzerland so far? Oh yes, on your banks. It was time.
(Joe, 3 November 2010 13:47)

The old good Joe... Ever heard of Delaware offshore zone...., yes, Iforgot it, we just annexed it. Your ignorance is appealing. By the way, do you know how many american banks, companies we have in Switzerland? Wonder why...
I suggest you lauch a petition to fordid any of those to work in my country... Really appealing ignorance!!

Dave

pre 13 godina

So when did the Tea Party activists challenged Bush's financial policy which allowed the banks to destroy the global money markets?
(Leonidas, 3 November 2010 12:31)

The Tea Party's origins are precisely in this period. They certainly are/were not pro-Bush - their ideals lie closer to the militia movement than to neo-conservatism. They're also more isolationist - for long a strong tendency in American politics - than pro-war. If they can be co-opted then, as someone else has pointed out, they'll be "useful fools" for big business, but the individuals who make up the movement are so wild that it could go anywhere. Fascinating and, yet again, I am profoundly glad not to be an American.

sj

pre 13 godina

With the Tea party these elections are a repeat of the days of Ross Perot. Then as now the general populace was dissatisfied with both parties but to stop the existing system falling apar, out of the forest came Ross Perot and his party. It’s all a means of trying to keep the 220 year old system from falling apart – one party with 2 conservative branches.

However, what amazes me is just how brainwashed the average Joe is in the US. A report came over the radio from the US stating that people were dissatisfied with Obama but they elected the same group that had brought the US to its knees. Has it ever occurred to these simpletons to elect some other party? Who cares what party but get rid of this dinosaur of a system that they have the hide to call democratic then you might have real democracy.

In the west we now have a system where in opposition say anything to get elected but in Government you continue as the previous administration. I recall Richard Perle being interviewd staright after Obama won. He said that “nothing would change during Obam’s first term of office – in fact it will look like George Bushes third term as President.

Mike

pre 13 godina

So my country made a concerted lurch towards the populist right. Wonderful. The possible saving grace is that the Republicans risk standing divided between the GOP establishment and the newer Tea Party populism led by such visionaries as Caribou Barbie. While I feel little simpathy for the GOP in creating what amounts to an angry white reactionary movement, the Tea Baggers are already lining themselves up to run on separate tickets in 2012 if the rest of the GOP doesn't march in step with them. Splitting the party may be the best long-term strategy since it gets rid of the crazy FOX-News kooks while allowing the GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"By the way, do you know how many american banks, companies we have in Switzerland? "
The Swiss

Rielly??? What a revelation!
But I have to bring you down to earth: American banks and companies are all over the world.

pss

pre 13 godina

GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.
(Mike, 3 November 2010 15:06)
A moderate conservative party would be good, a moderate liberal party would be almost as good.
We have too many that have aligned along the poles which is a dangerous place to be. People were scared of the far right corner Bush was pushing the country, which is why they went so far to the left. Hopefully that pendulum will rest somewhere in the middle.

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

RE; Worse Elements of Society



As founder and president of the Albanian American Civic League, DioGuardi has been lobbying Capitol Hill since the 1980s to promote the Greater Albania agenda, starting with the “liberation” of Kosovo. A Feb. 1998 statement on the AACL website reads: “The Civic League issues a public declaration, ‘In Defense of the Albanian National Cause,’ in which it announces its support for the Kosova Liberation Army….”

The KLA is a narco-terrorist crime syndicate that traffics internationally in heroin, humans, weapons, cars, etc. — and has ties to a slew of garden-variety terrorists and radicals. A month after the “Kosovars” unilaterally declared Kosovo theirs in Feb. 2008, a Washington Times editorial titled “Europe’s New Jihadist Statelet?” reminded readers, “The KLA was among the first international terrorist groups linked to al Qaeda in the late 1990s.” It’s a warning bell that was sounded in the months after 9/11 by Wall St. Journal-Europe, in a piece titled “Al Qaeda’s Balkan Links.”

The equation is simple. Joe DioGuardi supports the KLA. The KLA is a criminal and terrorist organization. Therefore, Joe DioGuardi supports crime and terror. There is no easy way around it.

In May 1999, at the height of our bombing Europe on the KLA’s behalf, former counter-narcotics agent Michael Levine made the following comments in an interview with The New American magazine’s William Norman Grigg:

Backing the KLA is simply insane. My contacts within the DEA are quite frankly terrified, but there’s not much they can say without risking their jobs. These guys [the KLA] have a network that’s active on the streets of this country. The Albanian mob is a scary operation. In fact, the Mafia relied on Albanian hit-men to carry out a lot of their contracts. They’re the worst elements of society that you can imagine, and now, according to my sources in drug enforcement, they are politically protected.

It’s the same old story. Ten years ago we were arming and equipping the worst elements of the mujahideen in Afghanistan — drug traffickers, arms smugglers, anti-American terrorists. We later paid the price when the World Trade Center was bombed, and we learned that some of those responsible had been trained by us. Now we’re doing the same thing with the KLA, which is tied in with every known Middle and Far Eastern drug cartel. Interpol, Europol, and nearly every European intelligence and counter-narcotics agency has files open on drug syndicates that lead right to the KLA, and right to Albanian gangs in this country.


The artical failed to mention that the leadersip of Kosovo , namely Thaci and most of his followers are from the KLA, a terrorist organization.

winston

pre 13 godina

Ian UK, the Democrats lost because they imposed unpopular legislation on the American people - plain and simple. They did not listen to what Americans were saying, but proceeded to ram through their socialist ideology at all costs. Obama, a junior senator with 1/2 term experience, promised to change the way government worked, but turned out to be another "business as usual politician", the transparency he promised was a lie. He is more concerned about his ideology, legacy, and the way he envisions America, than what is the most important right now for the US - economy, jobs, debt. Instead of tackling those things, he went on a spending spree that way never be paid off. He, and his administration deserved this setback. The election was not about a new found love for Republicans, it was a referendum on Mr. Obama and his unpopular agenda. We shall see where the US goes from here, but in any case, it is always good when there is a balance of power in DC. On a personal note, congratulations to Kristen Gillibrand in her NY senate victory. I am not a democrat, but thank God that scum, corrupt, litte dirt bag DioGuardi lost.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

You obviously have no idea what Socialism is.
Ian, UK

Paradise on earth like Cuba or Venezuela, not to mention North-Korea. You definitely s/b in one of them.
(Joe, 3 November 2010 21:21)

You also obviously have no idea what socialism is and your comment proves that.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Was interesting to see two essentially failed businesswoman to be "recycled": Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina. We can say some "pro" but much more "contra" about Meg Whitman - however, the entire HP cheered as Carly Fiorina was fired. She was universally hated in the Silicon Valley.

@Joe: we called Fiorina "finom p*na" (no Serbian translation!). Not sure about being "finom" ( = "tasty"), thank God, did not try it (crossing myself both Orthodox and Catholic way, just to keep the harm away). But I stand firm with the rest. Stand?? OMG, I shouldn't say that.

Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?

bganon

pre 13 godina

Everytime I see those hillarious soccer mum style leaders of the tea party interviewed on any issue where the brain must be engaged I end up laughing my head off.

Take a look for yourselves on youtube. The tea party are a joke on the one hand and on the other a danger, they have already been co-opted by big business.

What they represent now (they used to represent something like libertariansim) is big business threatening the republicans that unless they make even more concessions to big conglomerates those same conglomerates will abandon the Republicans and support the tea party. We have already seen this with Fox. So either the Republicans are swallowed by their TP monster (and the US is in serious trouble) or the Republicans eventually manage to beat them down - having sold what remains of their integrity to big business. Great choice!

Its no wonder there is so much voter apathy in the US. Talk about a sick system that is poisoned by money, money, money...

Joe

pre 13 godina

You obviously have no idea what Socialism is.
Ian, UK

Paradise on earth like Cuba or Venezuela, not to mention North-Korea. You definitely s/b in one of them.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Joe, and ur point is ?? U were talking abt my country, so was my answer, but it looks like u can't get much out of ur box...
But yes, right u are all around, including in ur beloved Russia :) but not in Iran where u are bound to use...Switzerland's voice :)

Je¿ Jevrejski

pre 13 godina

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.
(pss, 3 November 2010 17:19)

OK, could not resist to post an article written by a well-known Republican Jew.

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2490

As she writes:

"The equation is simple. Joe DioGuardi supports the KLA. The KLA is a criminal and terrorist organization. Therefore, Joe DioGuardi supports crime and terror. There is no easy way around it."

Amen and thumbs-up to that. But I would not call it "support", at least not the way you understand.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

I was not surprised with the other guy quoting Julia Gorin but I cannot believe you would hold her as an authority on anything.
I think the Kosovo issue is the common thread among alot of people here esp Mike, an American and myself, an American.
(pss, 3 November 2010 21:22)

OK, explanation. The "other" guy is also me, LOL, just this time with absolutely no intent to tease Joe (the Hungarian Unitarian). I rather tease (mildly) someone else from our "gang". Hope he does not mind. Julia Gorin was carefully chosen as an example, my "target" knows precisely why. I do not agree obviously with many things she writes (see Obama, for instance) and some other things, too. But hey - this is America and as Republican she needs to say bold things to her peers "just in face".

I agree with her judgement about KLA, Thaçi and the circle around Joe DioGuardi.

What Joe DioGuardi does is very easy to explain psychologically. He is from a "double-trouble" background - not just son of an underdog Italian immigrant, but in addition to that we are talking about a minority within Italy with a disadvantage. He is of course American... but at one point he was probably "born again" as an Arbëreshë.

As much as this this could be sympathetic to Albanians... God should save us from any "born-again" nuts.

As I seen on a T-shirt: "I was born kinda OK the first and only time".

jla

pre 13 godina

"However, what amazes me is just how brainwashed the average Joe is in the US. A report came over the radio from the US stating that people were dissatisfied with Obama but they elected the same group that had brought the US to its knees. Has it ever occurred to these simpletons to elect some other party? Who cares what party but get rid of this dinosaur of a system that they have the hide to call democratic then you might have real democracy."


While it's true that most of my fellow citizens are confounded by the constant stream of propaganda from all sides, it is also quite obvious that many a Serbian poster have succumbed to the same.

I'm 45 years old and never in my lifetime has my Country been governed from the right.

Reagan tried and got a bullet for his effort. Bush the lesser campaigned largely on non-interventionism and smaller government we see where that left us.

In our last presidential election we had but one man who espoused the notion that we are bankrupted, that our monetary policy ensured our enslavement and that imperialism is incompatible with small limited government. He got tarred an feathered by both sides of the ruling bi-factional elite and their willing accomplices in the media.

What a coincidence it was when shortly after he conceded the primary his prediction came to fruition and the economy collapsed, yet to this day I have not heard an apology from those who taunted him. Quite the contrary, they still mock him as a crazy old man.

As for your 'real democracy' when has it ever worked? Universal suffrage and the direct election of Senators have destroyed this Republic by allowing those who have no skin in the game an equal voice with the productive.

No, we're past the point where this can be resolve at the ballet box, as the number of those who either work for the government or depend on it has eclipsed that of those who actually produce wealth...and they ain't about to vote against what they are told is in their interest.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.
(pss, 3 November 2010 17:19)

The people are divided regarding Kosovo question in each party - provided they do care. See the proof among Republicans, pro-Serbian Democrats are also known.

http://www.juliagorin.com

Let the Kosovo rest with that, please. No need to pull that "Kosovo" string on every possible and impossible occasion. It is not the center of the world and certainly not in this topic.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?
Ataman "

They don't cross themselves (Unitarians barely pray - they're the thinking man's religion).

Anyway - the whole Tea Party movement got its first impetus when Scott Brown won the special election in Massachusetts to replace Ted Kennedy. This was the end of the Democrats super-majority in the Senate, slowly everything down, painfully. The People, supposedly, had Sent a Message to Washington: just stop it! Yesterday, the People in Massachusetts seem to have experienced buyer's remorse. Last night they returned an all-Democratic congressional delegation to the House, re-elected a Democratic governor (the one I left to go vote for yesterday) and Democrats up and down the state administration. Even the candidate who lost to Brown in the Senate race won reelection as Attorney General. Brown (and Romney) were waltzing around the state for weeks if not months, campaigning for Republicans and TP supporters. All to no avail. So - this election may very well be an aberration. Obama showed himself during the presidential campaign to be a fast learner: he was not the best campaigner by far at the beginning, but he learned from his mistakes. So, it's possible we'll have nothing but gridlock for the next two years, but it's not inevitable.

Anyway, Governor Moonbeam won. Jerry Brown of California, who used to speak wildly of the possibilities of things like communication satellites and computers - back in the 1970s, when it was enough to brand him as a nut-job. Unlike Obama, he has more experience in government than almost anyone in the country - now, that will be a change we should be able to believe in.

massimo

pre 13 godina

Poor Ian (UK)!!! It seems to me that you are a not a friend of free election systems. As many leftists in every country you insult democracy when the majority of the people do not share your political point of view. By citing George Orwell's 1984, you remind me of a "socing" fan...Actually you should be a UK socialist (happily, nowadays, a little bit out of fashion). Bear in mind that we are living the 2010 AD. Have you missed the last 30-40 years?

Joe

pre 13 godina

"it's true that most of my fellow citizens are confounded"
jla

You seem to be confused even more. By the way who is that old man...your superhero?

pss

pre 13 godina

Let the Kosovo rest with that, please. No need to pull that "Kosovo" string on every possible and impossible occasion. It is not the center of the world and certainly not in this topic.
(Ataman, 3 November 2010 18:27)
I was not talking about 100% of the people but the overall policies of the parties. You do not find many topics that the majority of each party does support but the Kosovo issue is one of them.
I was not surprised with the other guy quoting Julia Gorin but I cannot believe you would hold her as an authority on anything.
I think the Kosovo issue is the common thread among alot of people here esp Mike, an American and myself, an American.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"THe US no longer has a middle class, the Republicans destroyed it."
Stanko

You attribute much too much power to the Republicans. Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European, who doesn't know the true situation in the US.
First of all the notion of belonging to the middle class is such an important thing in the American mentality that even people, who are not part of it feel that they belong to. The wide majority of Americans are considered middle class more than people in European countries, where the class mentality is still very acute and where it is still much harder to move from one class to a higher class.
As for the Republicans they were always considered more business freindly. It is the Democrates who like to increase taxes, what is not "middle class friendly".
It would be also important to distinguish between upper middle class and lower middle class. As for the lower middle class it did tremendeous self destruction in the last 10-20 years by living way above their means. They did it childishly by purchasing on credit cards forgetting that those debts have to be repayed. The other major sin was the real estate speculation, buy more than one property and flip it over after a short time with a profit. This worked for a short time but became a catastrophic strategy lately. And it will get worse for a while.
And lastly if the Republicans "destroyed" the middle class how do you esplain that they gained so much 2 days ago? If you would be here and speak to people you would hear an awful lot of complains about the Democrats, your apparent heros.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"No, we're past the point where this can be resolve at the ballet box ...

(jla, 4 November 2010 13:05) "

So you suggest ...? Some people really take losing an election poorly.

The coalition of parties known as "the Republican party" won big against the coalition of parties known as "the Democratic party." This has happened before, and we've survived. The country seems a little more ungovernable than before because now there are actually three approximately equal groups: Repubs, Dems, and "Independents." The I's (the Impatients? Immediate-Gratificationists?) don't have any real political philosophy. They vote emotionally, and when things are bad, they vote against the party in power. So, even though the approval ratings of the R's and D's are about equally bad, the I's are unhappy about the economy, and out go the D's. (Except in Massachusetts! And California, but the R candidates were so bad it's hard to tell what happened there.)

BTW, the Republican expected to head the investigative committee of the House has said he intends to go back and look at the Bush years - how did things go so bad? The Democrats (well, Obama) decided to focus on the current situation and the future, and gave Bush a pass. Things could get interesting, although I have an idea they'll try to cast as much blame on the then out-of-power Dems as possible. Could be interesting.

johny

pre 13 godina

the Tea Baggers are already lining themselves up to run on separate tickets in 2012 if the rest of the GOP doesn't march in step with them. Splitting the party may be the best long-term strategy since it gets rid of the crazy FOX-News kooks while allowing the GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.
(Mike, 3 November 2010 15:06)

Agreed; although with the likes of Boehner and Cantor I wouldn't count too much on it.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?
Ataman

Left-to-right. The Orthodox...if I am correct...do it right-to-left.

Je¿ Albanski

pre 13 godina

(Je¿ Jevrejski, 3 November 2010 18:42)
Julia Gorin? for real? hahahahahhahhaha
(pss, 3 November 2010 21:07)

Hmm.... Joe DioGuardi? for real? hahahahahhahhaha
One is for sure tough - Joe DioGuardi is definitely an "Albanski" Ёжи / Józsi ( = "Joe").

@Joe, the Unitarian: this time the hedgehog series of nicknames are totally unrelated to you, just wanted to bring some sour smiles.

And apropos, Ёж / Je¿ / hedgehog: not sure, why - but B92 missed a very sad news. On October 26 Paul died :(( May he land up in eternal coral fields of octopus paradise.

I also use this opportunity to remind - most octopuses we eat usually die in the process what I wold describe as first-degree animal cruelty. I would give few year term to the captors to build railroads in Siberia. Paul and few of his colleagues in zoos are the lucky few. In Chinese food stores of Bay Area I did see some pretty sickening scenes.

Can't understand the Chinese - with an animal kept and slaughtered so cruelly they essentially eat all the bad chemistry and bad karma they believe so much into. Not very logical.

Sorry for the off-top.

je¿ ungaropolski

pre 13 godina

Sorry for the off-top.
(Je¿ Albanski, 4 November 2010 00:58)
While hedgehogs are not native to america (This fact I learned from you)seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century:However getting into new environment seems to have done a lot of harm to them especially on mental and moral levels.We shoul do our best to save these lost souls.Poor little animals.

je¿ ungaropolski

pre 13 godina

seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century
(je¿ ungaropolski, 4 November 2010 15:22)

A hedgehog huffs and puffs. And bites. But is probably a harmless guy.

See here:

[link]

And after I burned my butt once real good with the "Henel" thing, I feel some guilt, too.
(Je¿ ¿idowski, 4 November 2010 17:20)

Well in fact the bitten person in this video tells the hedhog"Tutaj,teraz tu"(Here now here in polish)which makes me belive that this is an agressive polski je¿.

jla

pre 13 godina

BTW, the Republican expected to head the investigative committee of the House has said he intends to go back and look at the Bush years - how did things go so bad? The Democrats (well, Obama) decided to focus on the current situation and the future, and gave Bush a pass. Things could get interesting, although I have an idea they'll try to cast as much blame on the then out-of-power Dems as possible. Could be interesting.
(Amer, 4 November 2010 18:29)

I wasn't suggesting that the recent elections were to cause our destruction. No, I just believe were toast regardless.

And as for your investigations, when I see a few tens of thousands of wall street bankers doing a perp walk along with their government approved enablers at the SEC and ratings agencies I might believe they're serious.

Until then I'll then I'm resigned to the reality that both parties are deeply involved in the biggest cover up and public fleecing the world has ever seen.

Je¿ amerykanski

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 4 November 2010 18:08)
"Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European".
Hahaha, if there are simplistic people in this world then it's the Americans.
At least the guy knows Enlgish. The whole world knows English and other languages as well. Tell me, how many Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?
You are simplistic. Democrat, Republican, is is all the same. They both are in the pockets of big business. America is going down the drain. The rest of the world doesn't buy your toxic debt anymore, dumps the dollar and goes for gold.
(Joe A, 5 November 2010 09:38)

Well in fact the so called average Joe is very simple everywhere weather it is Burma,US or Russia for that matter.When you say that democrats and republicans are all the same you yourself prove to be very simple-minded.If america really went down the drain she would drag the other parts of the world because of her powerful and influential position,so do not be so happy.Otherwise there are enough good brains in US who can solve very critical situations.AS to English well it is spoken all over the world only due to economic influance of USA.So you shuold not brag about this fact while you parallely are critical of America.Your statement is full of contradictions.Otherwise there are many multilingual people in US as well.You must have forgotten that america is full of first or second generation Immigrants.Joe (that one without A or W after hs name I mean our one and only dear original Joe)himself speaks four languages and currently learns russian from lovely Irina.Most europeans are not good at geography either.Some weeks ago I played a quiz game together with my friends and two guys from sweden could not find Malmö on the map as opposed to my friend Gazsi who origines from India.So much about bright europeans.

Kapetan Amerika

pre 13 godina

"most Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?" (JOE)


We did very good at finding targets during the 1998-90. LOL. Also, the rights to express yourself IN ANY WAY you desire hold true in America as part of Persuit of Happines enshrined on Declaration of Independence.


To all:
I'm astounded to see most of commentators here affraid/happy with the change in the house of representatives in Washington. This is not news people, it happens all the time. Almost every two years. Nothing will change in general policies.

Bad Economics started with Clinton continued with Bush and no change with Obama.

Clinton (first a democratic majority in congress then with a republican congress) did his wars. Bush (with a republican first and then a democratic congress) did his wars. Obama has Afghanistan.

I remember when Bush beat Gore, Serbs celebrating all over Serbia. I remember Kosovars complaing about Bush. I even remember Albanians considering Bush the Kosovo Father of the nation. I remember Serbs happy to have Bush gone, then came Clintonka.

You see nothing changes, America is America. The Romarican Empire I call it. Like it or not.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"You must have forgotten that america is full of first or second generation Immigrants.

(Je¿ amerykanski, 5 November 2010 13:05) "

This is an enormous advantage for the country - for example, 2nd-3rd generation Vietnamese are currently setting up businesses in Vietnam and utilizing their contacts in the US to make money. And, incidentally, improve relations between the countries in a way that diplomats never could.

On the other hand, having native-speakers available for almost any language-intensive work (e.g., translating) means that kids don't see any value in learning a foreign language. And then, there's always the problem of "which foreign language?" Now, in Prague, for example, it's a different case entirely. Anyone with any ambition at all has to know English, if only because it's the official language of the EU. Also, using it makes it possible to communicate with Latvians, Dutchmen, Albanians, etc. on the foreign trips people seem addicted to. So it's not uncommon at all to see people on the Metro with a grammar book open. The payoff is simply much greater for the speakers of a small country to learn English than for Americans to learn some other language. It makes an interesting hobby, but that's about it. Škoda (it's a pity).

Je¿ ¿idowski

pre 13 godina

seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century
(je¿ ungaropolski, 4 November 2010 15:22)

A hedgehog huffs and puffs. And bites. But is probably a harmless guy.

See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8viO8R-Kz4

And after I burned my butt once real good with the "Henel" thing, I feel some guilt, too.

Joe A

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 4 November 2010 18:08)
"Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European".
Hahaha, if there are simplistic people in this world then it's the Americans.
At least the guy knows Enlgish. The whole world knows English and other languages as well. Tell me, how many Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?
You are simplistic. Democrat, Republican, is is all the same. They both are in the pockets of big business. America is going down the drain. The rest of the world doesn't buy your toxic debt anymore, dumps the dollar and goes for gold.

Joe A

pre 13 godina

(Kapetan Amerika, 5 November 2010 15:00)

I see as a true American you take pride and pleasure out of bombing a place. Like in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo (depleted uranium), what have you not bombed the last 50 years?

Oh yes, you have free speech. Won't serve you any good when your economy will hit rock bottom pretty soon.
See where your precious declaration of independence will get you then.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"The Democrats lost for all the wrong reasons, Republican media spin, mass brainwashing, propaganda etc. It is pathetic!
Ian, UK

What is really pathetic is your total ignorance of the situation in the US.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Change course, which one this time, attack Iran, North Korea, install a star war 'defense' system at the doors of Russia, what else are they going to change to make this world unsafer.
The best change would be that you finally stop imposing your imperialism and pseudo democracy around the world !!

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

There was better news for the Democrats in the Senate where the Republicans made only moderate gains, although including Tea Party candidates for the first time. But the Republicans have failed to take the 10 seats they needed to gain control of that chamber.

B92

Tea Party is quite an appropriate term in a Lewis Carroll sort of way for this bunch of mad people like Rick Santelli of the CNN and Fox news.Here's the summary from Wikipedia:

"A disillusioned group of U.S. citizens that blindly oppose whatever legislative and/or government policy they perceive as being leftist, but said legislation/policy is actually in their own best interest. 2. Unknowing puppets of capitalist corporations and their congressional silent partners used to derail any progressive movement in the US government and/or society".

So when did the Tea Party activists challenged Bush's financial policy which allowed the banks to destroy the global money markets? At what point did they challenged the Republicans' decision to enter the illegal wars in Iraq and Afganistan that has so far cost the US taxpayer trillions of dollars that could have been spent on domestic investment?

The Tea party is just another capitalist mouthpiece rewriting history to suit their own mentally-distotred view of the world.

Nenad

pre 13 godina

Can't wait to see how the Tea B*ggers will view the Boehner and the Republicans after they do nothing to improve the economy they're mostly responsible for wrecking, creating even more job loss. And when the Tea B*ggers are out of work and no longer have health insurance because of a Republican repeal, they'll wish they'd stuck with Obama and the Dems. Idiots.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"By the way, do you know how many american banks, companies we have in Switzerland? "
The Swiss

Rielly??? What a revelation!
But I have to bring you down to earth: American banks and companies are all over the world.

Dave

pre 13 godina

So when did the Tea Party activists challenged Bush's financial policy which allowed the banks to destroy the global money markets?
(Leonidas, 3 November 2010 12:31)

The Tea Party's origins are precisely in this period. They certainly are/were not pro-Bush - their ideals lie closer to the militia movement than to neo-conservatism. They're also more isolationist - for long a strong tendency in American politics - than pro-war. If they can be co-opted then, as someone else has pointed out, they'll be "useful fools" for big business, but the individuals who make up the movement are so wild that it could go anywhere. Fascinating and, yet again, I am profoundly glad not to be an American.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?
Ataman

Left-to-right. The Orthodox...if I am correct...do it right-to-left.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Did we impose anything on Switzerland so far? Oh yes, on your banks. It was time.
(Joe, 3 November 2010 13:47)

The old good Joe... Ever heard of Delaware offshore zone...., yes, Iforgot it, we just annexed it. Your ignorance is appealing. By the way, do you know how many american banks, companies we have in Switzerland? Wonder why...
I suggest you lauch a petition to fordid any of those to work in my country... Really appealing ignorance!!

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Looks like the world will become a much more dangerous place. Tadic is now aligned with the far right so that is bad news for him. Having said that, I also believe it will accelerate the demise of the US. The world has had enough of US hegemony.

Milan

pre 13 godina

Ian seems you are brainwashed by Gordon brown elitists. American media is 90% commu-liberal. Also the tea party are people that are angry at bush and Obama policies. This wasn't a republican vote. Plus the only real tea party candidate was Rand Paul. I'm sure communism in your eyes would be better. I know there are 500 million people that loved it (killed by communist policies). How about go to lewrockwell.com and read up om what a real capitalist society is. Not the social welfare warfare state america is.

Joe

pre 13 godina

"THe US no longer has a middle class, the Republicans destroyed it."
Stanko

You attribute much too much power to the Republicans. Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European, who doesn't know the true situation in the US.
First of all the notion of belonging to the middle class is such an important thing in the American mentality that even people, who are not part of it feel that they belong to. The wide majority of Americans are considered middle class more than people in European countries, where the class mentality is still very acute and where it is still much harder to move from one class to a higher class.
As for the Republicans they were always considered more business freindly. It is the Democrates who like to increase taxes, what is not "middle class friendly".
It would be also important to distinguish between upper middle class and lower middle class. As for the lower middle class it did tremendeous self destruction in the last 10-20 years by living way above their means. They did it childishly by purchasing on credit cards forgetting that those debts have to be repayed. The other major sin was the real estate speculation, buy more than one property and flip it over after a short time with a profit. This worked for a short time but became a catastrophic strategy lately. And it will get worse for a while.
And lastly if the Republicans "destroyed" the middle class how do you esplain that they gained so much 2 days ago? If you would be here and speak to people you would hear an awful lot of complains about the Democrats, your apparent heros.

Joe

pre 13 godina

You obviously have no idea what Socialism is.
Ian, UK

Paradise on earth like Cuba or Venezuela, not to mention North-Korea. You definitely s/b in one of them.

winston

pre 13 godina

Ian UK, the Democrats lost because they imposed unpopular legislation on the American people - plain and simple. They did not listen to what Americans were saying, but proceeded to ram through their socialist ideology at all costs. Obama, a junior senator with 1/2 term experience, promised to change the way government worked, but turned out to be another "business as usual politician", the transparency he promised was a lie. He is more concerned about his ideology, legacy, and the way he envisions America, than what is the most important right now for the US - economy, jobs, debt. Instead of tackling those things, he went on a spending spree that way never be paid off. He, and his administration deserved this setback. The election was not about a new found love for Republicans, it was a referendum on Mr. Obama and his unpopular agenda. We shall see where the US goes from here, but in any case, it is always good when there is a balance of power in DC. On a personal note, congratulations to Kristen Gillibrand in her NY senate victory. I am not a democrat, but thank God that scum, corrupt, litte dirt bag DioGuardi lost.

Je¿ Jevrejski

pre 13 godina

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.
(pss, 3 November 2010 17:19)

OK, could not resist to post an article written by a well-known Republican Jew.

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2490

As she writes:

"The equation is simple. Joe DioGuardi supports the KLA. The KLA is a criminal and terrorist organization. Therefore, Joe DioGuardi supports crime and terror. There is no easy way around it."

Amen and thumbs-up to that. But I would not call it "support", at least not the way you understand.

Jugolsavija

pre 13 godina

RE; Worse Elements of Society



As founder and president of the Albanian American Civic League, DioGuardi has been lobbying Capitol Hill since the 1980s to promote the Greater Albania agenda, starting with the “liberation” of Kosovo. A Feb. 1998 statement on the AACL website reads: “The Civic League issues a public declaration, ‘In Defense of the Albanian National Cause,’ in which it announces its support for the Kosova Liberation Army….”

The KLA is a narco-terrorist crime syndicate that traffics internationally in heroin, humans, weapons, cars, etc. — and has ties to a slew of garden-variety terrorists and radicals. A month after the “Kosovars” unilaterally declared Kosovo theirs in Feb. 2008, a Washington Times editorial titled “Europe’s New Jihadist Statelet?” reminded readers, “The KLA was among the first international terrorist groups linked to al Qaeda in the late 1990s.” It’s a warning bell that was sounded in the months after 9/11 by Wall St. Journal-Europe, in a piece titled “Al Qaeda’s Balkan Links.”

The equation is simple. Joe DioGuardi supports the KLA. The KLA is a criminal and terrorist organization. Therefore, Joe DioGuardi supports crime and terror. There is no easy way around it.

In May 1999, at the height of our bombing Europe on the KLA’s behalf, former counter-narcotics agent Michael Levine made the following comments in an interview with The New American magazine’s William Norman Grigg:

Backing the KLA is simply insane. My contacts within the DEA are quite frankly terrified, but there’s not much they can say without risking their jobs. These guys [the KLA] have a network that’s active on the streets of this country. The Albanian mob is a scary operation. In fact, the Mafia relied on Albanian hit-men to carry out a lot of their contracts. They’re the worst elements of society that you can imagine, and now, according to my sources in drug enforcement, they are politically protected.

It’s the same old story. Ten years ago we were arming and equipping the worst elements of the mujahideen in Afghanistan — drug traffickers, arms smugglers, anti-American terrorists. We later paid the price when the World Trade Center was bombed, and we learned that some of those responsible had been trained by us. Now we’re doing the same thing with the KLA, which is tied in with every known Middle and Far Eastern drug cartel. Interpol, Europol, and nearly every European intelligence and counter-narcotics agency has files open on drug syndicates that lead right to the KLA, and right to Albanian gangs in this country.


The artical failed to mention that the leadersip of Kosovo , namely Thaci and most of his followers are from the KLA, a terrorist organization.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

You obviously have no idea what Socialism is.
Ian, UK

Paradise on earth like Cuba or Venezuela, not to mention North-Korea. You definitely s/b in one of them.
(Joe, 3 November 2010 21:21)

You also obviously have no idea what socialism is and your comment proves that.

The Swiss

pre 13 godina

Joe, and ur point is ?? U were talking abt my country, so was my answer, but it looks like u can't get much out of ur box...
But yes, right u are all around, including in ur beloved Russia :) but not in Iran where u are bound to use...Switzerland's voice :)

Joe

pre 13 godina

"it's true that most of my fellow citizens are confounded"
jla

You seem to be confused even more. By the way who is that old man...your superhero?

jla

pre 13 godina

"However, what amazes me is just how brainwashed the average Joe is in the US. A report came over the radio from the US stating that people were dissatisfied with Obama but they elected the same group that had brought the US to its knees. Has it ever occurred to these simpletons to elect some other party? Who cares what party but get rid of this dinosaur of a system that they have the hide to call democratic then you might have real democracy."


While it's true that most of my fellow citizens are confounded by the constant stream of propaganda from all sides, it is also quite obvious that many a Serbian poster have succumbed to the same.

I'm 45 years old and never in my lifetime has my Country been governed from the right.

Reagan tried and got a bullet for his effort. Bush the lesser campaigned largely on non-interventionism and smaller government we see where that left us.

In our last presidential election we had but one man who espoused the notion that we are bankrupted, that our monetary policy ensured our enslavement and that imperialism is incompatible with small limited government. He got tarred an feathered by both sides of the ruling bi-factional elite and their willing accomplices in the media.

What a coincidence it was when shortly after he conceded the primary his prediction came to fruition and the economy collapsed, yet to this day I have not heard an apology from those who taunted him. Quite the contrary, they still mock him as a crazy old man.

As for your 'real democracy' when has it ever worked? Universal suffrage and the direct election of Senators have destroyed this Republic by allowing those who have no skin in the game an equal voice with the productive.

No, we're past the point where this can be resolve at the ballet box, as the number of those who either work for the government or depend on it has eclipsed that of those who actually produce wealth...and they ain't about to vote against what they are told is in their interest.

Mike

pre 13 godina

So my country made a concerted lurch towards the populist right. Wonderful. The possible saving grace is that the Republicans risk standing divided between the GOP establishment and the newer Tea Party populism led by such visionaries as Caribou Barbie. While I feel little simpathy for the GOP in creating what amounts to an angry white reactionary movement, the Tea Baggers are already lining themselves up to run on separate tickets in 2012 if the rest of the GOP doesn't march in step with them. Splitting the party may be the best long-term strategy since it gets rid of the crazy FOX-News kooks while allowing the GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

Was interesting to see two essentially failed businesswoman to be "recycled": Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina. We can say some "pro" but much more "contra" about Meg Whitman - however, the entire HP cheered as Carly Fiorina was fired. She was universally hated in the Silicon Valley.

@Joe: we called Fiorina "finom p*na" (no Serbian translation!). Not sure about being "finom" ( = "tasty"), thank God, did not try it (crossing myself both Orthodox and Catholic way, just to keep the harm away). But I stand firm with the rest. Stand?? OMG, I shouldn't say that.

Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?

pss

pre 13 godina

GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.
(Mike, 3 November 2010 15:06)
A moderate conservative party would be good, a moderate liberal party would be almost as good.
We have too many that have aligned along the poles which is a dangerous place to be. People were scared of the far right corner Bush was pushing the country, which is why they went so far to the left. Hopefully that pendulum will rest somewhere in the middle.

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.

pss

pre 13 godina

Let the Kosovo rest with that, please. No need to pull that "Kosovo" string on every possible and impossible occasion. It is not the center of the world and certainly not in this topic.
(Ataman, 3 November 2010 18:27)
I was not talking about 100% of the people but the overall policies of the parties. You do not find many topics that the majority of each party does support but the Kosovo issue is one of them.
I was not surprised with the other guy quoting Julia Gorin but I cannot believe you would hold her as an authority on anything.
I think the Kosovo issue is the common thread among alot of people here esp Mike, an American and myself, an American.

sj

pre 13 godina

With the Tea party these elections are a repeat of the days of Ross Perot. Then as now the general populace was dissatisfied with both parties but to stop the existing system falling apar, out of the forest came Ross Perot and his party. It’s all a means of trying to keep the 220 year old system from falling apart – one party with 2 conservative branches.

However, what amazes me is just how brainwashed the average Joe is in the US. A report came over the radio from the US stating that people were dissatisfied with Obama but they elected the same group that had brought the US to its knees. Has it ever occurred to these simpletons to elect some other party? Who cares what party but get rid of this dinosaur of a system that they have the hide to call democratic then you might have real democracy.

In the west we now have a system where in opposition say anything to get elected but in Government you continue as the previous administration. I recall Richard Perle being interviewd staright after Obama won. He said that “nothing would change during Obam’s first term of office – in fact it will look like George Bushes third term as President.

massimo

pre 13 godina

Poor Ian (UK)!!! It seems to me that you are a not a friend of free election systems. As many leftists in every country you insult democracy when the majority of the people do not share your political point of view. By citing George Orwell's 1984, you remind me of a "socing" fan...Actually you should be a UK socialist (happily, nowadays, a little bit out of fashion). Bear in mind that we are living the 2010 AD. Have you missed the last 30-40 years?

Ataman

pre 13 godina

However which ever side is in power the support for Kosovo has been there.
(pss, 3 November 2010 17:19)

The people are divided regarding Kosovo question in each party - provided they do care. See the proof among Republicans, pro-Serbian Democrats are also known.

http://www.juliagorin.com

Let the Kosovo rest with that, please. No need to pull that "Kosovo" string on every possible and impossible occasion. It is not the center of the world and certainly not in this topic.

bganon

pre 13 godina

Everytime I see those hillarious soccer mum style leaders of the tea party interviewed on any issue where the brain must be engaged I end up laughing my head off.

Take a look for yourselves on youtube. The tea party are a joke on the one hand and on the other a danger, they have already been co-opted by big business.

What they represent now (they used to represent something like libertariansim) is big business threatening the republicans that unless they make even more concessions to big conglomerates those same conglomerates will abandon the Republicans and support the tea party. We have already seen this with Fox. So either the Republicans are swallowed by their TP monster (and the US is in serious trouble) or the Republicans eventually manage to beat them down - having sold what remains of their integrity to big business. Great choice!

Its no wonder there is so much voter apathy in the US. Talk about a sick system that is poisoned by money, money, money...

Je¿ Albanski

pre 13 godina

(Je¿ Jevrejski, 3 November 2010 18:42)
Julia Gorin? for real? hahahahahhahhaha
(pss, 3 November 2010 21:07)

Hmm.... Joe DioGuardi? for real? hahahahahhahhaha
One is for sure tough - Joe DioGuardi is definitely an "Albanski" Ёжи / Józsi ( = "Joe").

@Joe, the Unitarian: this time the hedgehog series of nicknames are totally unrelated to you, just wanted to bring some sour smiles.

And apropos, Ёж / Je¿ / hedgehog: not sure, why - but B92 missed a very sad news. On October 26 Paul died :(( May he land up in eternal coral fields of octopus paradise.

I also use this opportunity to remind - most octopuses we eat usually die in the process what I wold describe as first-degree animal cruelty. I would give few year term to the captors to build railroads in Siberia. Paul and few of his colleagues in zoos are the lucky few. In Chinese food stores of Bay Area I did see some pretty sickening scenes.

Can't understand the Chinese - with an animal kept and slaughtered so cruelly they essentially eat all the bad chemistry and bad karma they believe so much into. Not very logical.

Sorry for the off-top.

Ataman

pre 13 godina

I was not surprised with the other guy quoting Julia Gorin but I cannot believe you would hold her as an authority on anything.
I think the Kosovo issue is the common thread among alot of people here esp Mike, an American and myself, an American.
(pss, 3 November 2010 21:22)

OK, explanation. The "other" guy is also me, LOL, just this time with absolutely no intent to tease Joe (the Hungarian Unitarian). I rather tease (mildly) someone else from our "gang". Hope he does not mind. Julia Gorin was carefully chosen as an example, my "target" knows precisely why. I do not agree obviously with many things she writes (see Obama, for instance) and some other things, too. But hey - this is America and as Republican she needs to say bold things to her peers "just in face".

I agree with her judgement about KLA, Thaçi and the circle around Joe DioGuardi.

What Joe DioGuardi does is very easy to explain psychologically. He is from a "double-trouble" background - not just son of an underdog Italian immigrant, but in addition to that we are talking about a minority within Italy with a disadvantage. He is of course American... but at one point he was probably "born again" as an Arbëreshë.

As much as this this could be sympathetic to Albanians... God should save us from any "born-again" nuts.

As I seen on a T-shirt: "I was born kinda OK the first and only time".

Je¿ amerykanski

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 4 November 2010 18:08)
"Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European".
Hahaha, if there are simplistic people in this world then it's the Americans.
At least the guy knows Enlgish. The whole world knows English and other languages as well. Tell me, how many Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?
You are simplistic. Democrat, Republican, is is all the same. They both are in the pockets of big business. America is going down the drain. The rest of the world doesn't buy your toxic debt anymore, dumps the dollar and goes for gold.
(Joe A, 5 November 2010 09:38)

Well in fact the so called average Joe is very simple everywhere weather it is Burma,US or Russia for that matter.When you say that democrats and republicans are all the same you yourself prove to be very simple-minded.If america really went down the drain she would drag the other parts of the world because of her powerful and influential position,so do not be so happy.Otherwise there are enough good brains in US who can solve very critical situations.AS to English well it is spoken all over the world only due to economic influance of USA.So you shuold not brag about this fact while you parallely are critical of America.Your statement is full of contradictions.Otherwise there are many multilingual people in US as well.You must have forgotten that america is full of first or second generation Immigrants.Joe (that one without A or W after hs name I mean our one and only dear original Joe)himself speaks four languages and currently learns russian from lovely Irina.Most europeans are not good at geography either.Some weeks ago I played a quiz game together with my friends and two guys from sweden could not find Malmö on the map as opposed to my friend Gazsi who origines from India.So much about bright europeans.

johny

pre 13 godina

the Tea Baggers are already lining themselves up to run on separate tickets in 2012 if the rest of the GOP doesn't march in step with them. Splitting the party may be the best long-term strategy since it gets rid of the crazy FOX-News kooks while allowing the GOP to re-establish itself as moderate Conservative party.
(Mike, 3 November 2010 15:06)

Agreed; although with the likes of Boehner and Cantor I wouldn't count too much on it.

Kapetan Amerika

pre 13 godina

"most Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?" (JOE)


We did very good at finding targets during the 1998-90. LOL. Also, the rights to express yourself IN ANY WAY you desire hold true in America as part of Persuit of Happines enshrined on Declaration of Independence.


To all:
I'm astounded to see most of commentators here affraid/happy with the change in the house of representatives in Washington. This is not news people, it happens all the time. Almost every two years. Nothing will change in general policies.

Bad Economics started with Clinton continued with Bush and no change with Obama.

Clinton (first a democratic majority in congress then with a republican congress) did his wars. Bush (with a republican first and then a democratic congress) did his wars. Obama has Afghanistan.

I remember when Bush beat Gore, Serbs celebrating all over Serbia. I remember Kosovars complaing about Bush. I even remember Albanians considering Bush the Kosovo Father of the nation. I remember Serbs happy to have Bush gone, then came Clintonka.

You see nothing changes, America is America. The Romarican Empire I call it. Like it or not.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"Philosophic question: how Unitarians do cross? Left-to-right or right-to-left?
Ataman "

They don't cross themselves (Unitarians barely pray - they're the thinking man's religion).

Anyway - the whole Tea Party movement got its first impetus when Scott Brown won the special election in Massachusetts to replace Ted Kennedy. This was the end of the Democrats super-majority in the Senate, slowly everything down, painfully. The People, supposedly, had Sent a Message to Washington: just stop it! Yesterday, the People in Massachusetts seem to have experienced buyer's remorse. Last night they returned an all-Democratic congressional delegation to the House, re-elected a Democratic governor (the one I left to go vote for yesterday) and Democrats up and down the state administration. Even the candidate who lost to Brown in the Senate race won reelection as Attorney General. Brown (and Romney) were waltzing around the state for weeks if not months, campaigning for Republicans and TP supporters. All to no avail. So - this election may very well be an aberration. Obama showed himself during the presidential campaign to be a fast learner: he was not the best campaigner by far at the beginning, but he learned from his mistakes. So, it's possible we'll have nothing but gridlock for the next two years, but it's not inevitable.

Anyway, Governor Moonbeam won. Jerry Brown of California, who used to speak wildly of the possibilities of things like communication satellites and computers - back in the 1970s, when it was enough to brand him as a nut-job. Unlike Obama, he has more experience in government than almost anyone in the country - now, that will be a change we should be able to believe in.

je¿ ungaropolski

pre 13 godina

Sorry for the off-top.
(Je¿ Albanski, 4 November 2010 00:58)
While hedgehogs are not native to america (This fact I learned from you)seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century:However getting into new environment seems to have done a lot of harm to them especially on mental and moral levels.We shoul do our best to save these lost souls.Poor little animals.

Je¿ ¿idowski

pre 13 godina

seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century
(je¿ ungaropolski, 4 November 2010 15:22)

A hedgehog huffs and puffs. And bites. But is probably a harmless guy.

See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8viO8R-Kz4

And after I burned my butt once real good with the "Henel" thing, I feel some guilt, too.

je¿ ungaropolski

pre 13 godina

seems that a lot of them have been imported during the last century
(je¿ ungaropolski, 4 November 2010 15:22)

A hedgehog huffs and puffs. And bites. But is probably a harmless guy.

See here:

[link]

And after I burned my butt once real good with the "Henel" thing, I feel some guilt, too.
(Je¿ ¿idowski, 4 November 2010 17:20)

Well in fact the bitten person in this video tells the hedhog"Tutaj,teraz tu"(Here now here in polish)which makes me belive that this is an agressive polski je¿.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"No, we're past the point where this can be resolve at the ballet box ...

(jla, 4 November 2010 13:05) "

So you suggest ...? Some people really take losing an election poorly.

The coalition of parties known as "the Republican party" won big against the coalition of parties known as "the Democratic party." This has happened before, and we've survived. The country seems a little more ungovernable than before because now there are actually three approximately equal groups: Repubs, Dems, and "Independents." The I's (the Impatients? Immediate-Gratificationists?) don't have any real political philosophy. They vote emotionally, and when things are bad, they vote against the party in power. So, even though the approval ratings of the R's and D's are about equally bad, the I's are unhappy about the economy, and out go the D's. (Except in Massachusetts! And California, but the R candidates were so bad it's hard to tell what happened there.)

BTW, the Republican expected to head the investigative committee of the House has said he intends to go back and look at the Bush years - how did things go so bad? The Democrats (well, Obama) decided to focus on the current situation and the future, and gave Bush a pass. Things could get interesting, although I have an idea they'll try to cast as much blame on the then out-of-power Dems as possible. Could be interesting.

Joe A

pre 13 godina

(Joe, 4 November 2010 18:08)
"Jugging your simplistic comment you must be a European".
Hahaha, if there are simplistic people in this world then it's the Americans.
At least the guy knows Enlgish. The whole world knows English and other languages as well. Tell me, how many Americans speak another language, let alone know how to find their country on the map?
You are simplistic. Democrat, Republican, is is all the same. They both are in the pockets of big business. America is going down the drain. The rest of the world doesn't buy your toxic debt anymore, dumps the dollar and goes for gold.

jla

pre 13 godina

BTW, the Republican expected to head the investigative committee of the House has said he intends to go back and look at the Bush years - how did things go so bad? The Democrats (well, Obama) decided to focus on the current situation and the future, and gave Bush a pass. Things could get interesting, although I have an idea they'll try to cast as much blame on the then out-of-power Dems as possible. Could be interesting.
(Amer, 4 November 2010 18:29)

I wasn't suggesting that the recent elections were to cause our destruction. No, I just believe were toast regardless.

And as for your investigations, when I see a few tens of thousands of wall street bankers doing a perp walk along with their government approved enablers at the SEC and ratings agencies I might believe they're serious.

Until then I'll then I'm resigned to the reality that both parties are deeply involved in the biggest cover up and public fleecing the world has ever seen.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"You must have forgotten that america is full of first or second generation Immigrants.

(Je¿ amerykanski, 5 November 2010 13:05) "

This is an enormous advantage for the country - for example, 2nd-3rd generation Vietnamese are currently setting up businesses in Vietnam and utilizing their contacts in the US to make money. And, incidentally, improve relations between the countries in a way that diplomats never could.

On the other hand, having native-speakers available for almost any language-intensive work (e.g., translating) means that kids don't see any value in learning a foreign language. And then, there's always the problem of "which foreign language?" Now, in Prague, for example, it's a different case entirely. Anyone with any ambition at all has to know English, if only because it's the official language of the EU. Also, using it makes it possible to communicate with Latvians, Dutchmen, Albanians, etc. on the foreign trips people seem addicted to. So it's not uncommon at all to see people on the Metro with a grammar book open. The payoff is simply much greater for the speakers of a small country to learn English than for Americans to learn some other language. It makes an interesting hobby, but that's about it. Škoda (it's a pity).

Joe A

pre 13 godina

(Kapetan Amerika, 5 November 2010 15:00)

I see as a true American you take pride and pleasure out of bombing a place. Like in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo (depleted uranium), what have you not bombed the last 50 years?

Oh yes, you have free speech. Won't serve you any good when your economy will hit rock bottom pretty soon.
See where your precious declaration of independence will get you then.