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Tuesday, 02.11.2010.

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"EULEX will not take north by force"

EULEX head Xavier Bout de Marnhac has said that the EU mission in Kosovo does not plan to take control over northern Kosovo by force.

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care

pre 13 godina

Surely you jest Znaj. And Serb Goodness is an oxymoron. Look it up in Oxford's.
(Zoti, 4 November 2010 21:31)

If that's true, you've survived thanks to an oxymoron.

SRBIN 100%

pre 13 godina

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.

LOL!And again LOL!!!If you know the facts Serb didnt loose any war in Croatia there were not even 1% of our army forces if they were we will still have Krajina,if you are maybe talking about 1999 we won war against Albanians no doubt there but we couldnt compete with whole NATO without any modern weapons even than we gave them fight which they didnt expect

Zoti

pre 13 godina

You survived thanks to uninteresting Geo and Serb goodness trough the centuries.
(ZNAJ, 4 November 2010 18:30)

Surely you jest Znaj. And Serb Goodness is an oxymoron. Look it up in Oxford's.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

When it comes to Serbian Army vs Albanian men the Serbs will surely win but when it comes to men vs men the Serbs have fared much worse.
(Zoti, 4 November 2010 14:33)


You survived thanks to uninteresting Geo and Serb goodness trough the centuries.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

The fact remains that albanians have not nor cannot face Serbia alone. man on man. Without US/NATO intervention...you LOOSE. (michael, 2 November 2010)

Of course Albanians civlians will lose against a state apparatus and a massive army hellbent on exterminating them. However judging by the past history Albanians fared very well against the Serbian "men" kicking them back to where they came from.
When it comes to Serbian Army vs Albanian men the Serbs will surely win but when it comes to men vs men the Serbs have fared much worse.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...
(Ron, 3 November 2010)

(1)Kosova has been independent for almost 3 years now. I'm sure you country's government disagrees with you Ron.

(2)There's no double standard at all. Kosova gave up unification with Albania for reassuances by the West that the North would be incorporated into the new state. If the North were to go then there's nothing to preclude Kosovars from joining Albania along with the Valley Albanians in Southern Serbia.
(3)As a Westerner you bear the blame for this mess to begin with. Kosova should have never been incorporated into Serbia after the fall of the Ottoman empire but to placte the Russians and their Slav allies in the region YOU decided to carve up the Albanian territories. You are simply reaping what you sowed 100 years ago. It's the same thing YOU didi in Africa and the middle East where you created new states with total disregard to ethnic makeup of those states and as a result those regions have been mired in violent conclict for decades.
Another thing I've learnt from the Westerners is that they never give you anything for free, there's a price to pay and I hope ours won't be too high.

sj

pre 13 godina

Tha time will tell. If we going to be left high and dry because of Russia, so be it. We like to have no relation at all with sllavs for the next 200 years. By the way, from you're long unswer it looks like you still have hell of the job ahead of corving you're borders. good luck with that.
(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 16:53)


Unfortunately I try and explain my statements unlike some that make a silly comment and thinks that’s the end. Serbia’s borders have not changed and Kosovo has not moved one inch since 1999. Even you stupid allies, the US, are now asking for more Russian help in their war in Afghanistan. Once NATO leaves it will be reorganised into a new organisation with Russia part of it.

Ron

pre 13 godina

(3) Considering Hollands contribution to the UN budget and the size of Holland if you send me your address I will reimburse your approximate $2 contribution, so you can move on to other issues.
(pss, 3 November 2010 09:48)

Relatively Holland is paying A LOT to UN and EU. But fine with us.
Please work on the prosperity of your own province! Good luck!

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

With the Russians arriving and power changing your Albanians are going to be left high and dry.
(sj, 3 November 2010 12:58)

Tha time will tell. If we going to be left high and dry because of Russia, so be it. We like to have no relation at all with sllavs for the next 200 years. By the way, from you're long unswer it looks like you still have hell of the job ahead of corving you're borders. good luck with that.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

Hey Jugoslavija, sorry to break it up to you man. But you are dead already 20 years ago. That is why you talk no sense at all.
(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 01:57)

So is Belushi....

sj

pre 13 godina

(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 01:53)

Krajina is one of several issues that Croatia has to resolve and its going to be the most expensive to bring to finality. Simply put all property has to be returned to their owners and compensation paid which would run into the billions of Euros – Croatia does not have these financial resources and in the end territory will have to be traded.
Kosovo stood still in 1999 and the same in 2010. Your allies should have resolved this in the early years and closed this chapter, but they were too busy gloating over the so called victory; 11 years later the world has changed and they no longer have the power to do that.
When Slovenia left the old Yugo it was financially supported by the Austrian banking system otherwise they would have lasted about 6 months and now it lives off the EU like a lot of these smaller states. Considering that Slovenia suffered neither war nor sanctions it should in theory be on par with say Swtizerland, but it’s not even close. Slovenia’s main source of income is tourism; there is very little manufacturing and what is left has or will move to Serbia – look at Gorenje, its production is in Serbia i.e. Serbs being employed not Slovenes.
The GFC has caused the EU to drastically reduce its budget so EU assistance to Slovenia has been slashed to the point that the national Slovenian budget has to reduced drastically. In the historical books I have read I have never heard of a nation’s army threatening to go on strike – Slovenia’s has done just that and all due to budget cuts.
Croatia is turning into a basket case – its various levels of political corruption where even HTV only reports of moneys being misappropriated by various politicians and governments. Croatia is in desperate need of economic cooperation with Serbia.
Montenegro was prior to the GFC 80% live on or below the poverty line. I can only imagine the conditions now. Selling real estate is not the way to a sustainable economy. It now wants some form of economic cooperation with Serbia.
Don’t just look at GDP figures because these are being inflated to maintain the illusion of prosperity. Look at the US; they are up to their necks in debt but every official source maintains the illusion of normality.
Serbia suffered 20 years sanctions so the west ruined its economy, but you see its industries have started to function and in another 10 years it will be in an even better position than ever in its history. With the Russians arriving and power changing your Albanians are going to be left high and dry.
The EU now wants the new parts of the old Yug to economically function as one so it will be Serbia on top – where do your Albos think they are going to find work? The EU, wants to return 200 000 to Kosovo so if you said Serbia then you’re right.
These so called talks are at the start of the long road to re integration. First step is to remove Thaci and his government and that’s on the way right now through another election which was ordered by the EU.

pss

pre 13 godina

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...
(Ron, 3 November 2010 06:20)
(1) Your own country begs to differ with your own opinion-how is that so hard to understand?
(2) That part may be subject to some type of negotiability.
(3) Considering Hollands contribution to the UN budget and the size of Holland if you send me your address I will reimburse your approximate $2 contribution, so you can move on to other issues.

Ron

pre 13 godina

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40)

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

but Serbia carved out its own territory and if you open your eyes you’ll find that they are the best parts of the old Yugo anyway.
(sj, 2 November 2010 22:50)

Oh sorry I did not know Serbia carved Krajina and Kosova out with their own desire. And just out of youre courosity I did open my eyes and what I see? Sllovenia very prosper and in UE. Croatia almost there and very prosper. So is Montenegro. I see east Serbia very dark and grasping for air and running so hard to reach the train that they lost.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

True, that is why he died of a cocaine drug overdose.
(Jugoslavija, 2 November 2010 21:42)

Hey Jugoslavija, sorry to break it up to you man. But you are dead already 20 years ago. That is why you talk no sense at all.

sj

pre 13 godina

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha, 2 November 2010 19:50)

I don’t know what planet you’re living on, but Serbia carved out its own territory and if you open your eyes you’ll find that they are the best parts of the old Yugo anyway. If it did not fight it would have nothing.

Serbia plus RS are the best parts of the old Yugo, mate. The rest is not worth much. As far as you Albos fighting, well that’s a laugh. You had to have NATO come in on your side and even then they could not defeat the Serbs considering the amount of arms and equipment that was withdrawn after a negotiated settlement. Even today the so called independent Kosovo cant move without Serbia, so who won again?

12 years on and the staus quo continues – so much for the Albanians winning.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha, 2 November 2010 19:50)

RE: True of False

The KLA was soundly defeated in Kosovo by the Serbian army.

TRUE.

Many took the UCK uniform and insignia off and shamelessly hid with the refugees.


The JNA was order by Crotian Vice President Markovic to secure the border of Slovenia.

TRUE

Milosevic lost and started four wars?

FALSE

He was not the President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia when the war's started in Slovenia, Crotian and Bosnia Herzegovina.

He was the President of the Republic of Serbia.

John Belushi had a Albanian background?

True, that is why he died of a cocaine drug overdose.

michael

pre 13 godina

Now we hear the threat of force by albanian thugs which is certainly amusing for not only Serbs, but for the various neighbors in our region.

The fact remains that albanians have not nor cannot face Serbia alone. man on man. Without US/NATO intervention...you LOOSE. Your hired gun will soon fade and then you will have to face your superior neighbor once again...alone. By then, you'll probably have to go at it against Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and Greece.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

Not to mention March 2004
(lowe, 2 November 2010 17:40)

If we want to get technical, the ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo began in 1942 when the Nazi's occupied Yugoslavia and allowed the ethnic Albanians to start cleansing the Serbs in Kosovo. This continued under Tito's policies until today where the Serb population has dropped to less than 3% in Kosovo when it was close to 50% before WWII.

The Albanians have the nerve to say Serbs cleansed them in 1999; they are incapable of liberating themselves and were always on the shoulder of the Ottoman empire, Nazi Germany, Fasciist Italy and now the crumbling American empire.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.
(Michael Thomas, 2 November 2010 13:29)

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha)
-
WOW !! Where have you been the past 20 years?

Croatia, Bosnia, Maceodnia and Serbia all together lost when Yugoslavia was lost.

You didnt have an army in kosovo? Thaci would be disapointed to hear this. Not only were you terrorizing Serbs with the KLA, havesting their organs and mass murdering them, but the USA, along with Eu and NATO all were bombing Serbia at the same time. What was gained? Poverty to the max? enemployment below the ground leading to criminalism? It is time to stop choosing ignorance over reason.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.
(Michael Thomas, 2 November 2010 13:29)

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.

johny

pre 13 godina

Nothing will happen in N. Mitro. Things will remain as they've been in the last decade. It'd be suicidal for anyone be Serb, Albanian or even EULEX if they attempted to use violence against one specific group. 1999 should have been enough of a lesson.

Chuck

pre 13 godina

It would seem, after the recent international corruptions report by the German NGO Transparency International, that the general's time would be better spent in Southern Kosovo. The EU's effort to portray Serbs as villains in the Balkans is but a smokescreen for the continued US, NATO, and EU colonizing of Eastern Europe.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40) "

I see ..... your idea of "responsibilities" towards your K-Serbs citizens is to use force on them against their will, eh? Very democratic, very into respect for freedom of choice and human rights I must say!

But I bet you wouldn't dare do it! Because your new masters EU will come down on you like a ton of bricks should the big lie about how K-Serbs are enjoying the multiethnic paradise of "Kosova" is exposed before the entire world!

self defence

pre 13 godina

Their man in Beograd, Tadic invited this trojan horse, now threatening with occupation and boasting it´s capabilities, who would have guessed?. Yes we saw some of that when you so heroically bombed us with atomic waste from 30000 feet & above. Try to kill serbs as real men instead and no puppet regime of yours in the world would help you...

KOSO

pre 13 godina

". If they want to exterminate the few Serbs who live in their ancestral homes" - Michael

Do a google search...I'd also recommend you search "slavic migration".

Michael Thomas

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is occupied by the NATO Pact. If they want to exterminate the few Serbs who live in their ancestral homes, then there is little that Serbia can do to stop them.

Talk of Albanians sending their small-time crooks, pimps and people-traffickers to attack Serbian areas is laughable. If all they had to fight against were the heroic Albanians, then Serbia’s forces would capture Pristina in a couple of days.

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.

Le roi Jenkins

pre 13 godina

I agree with that.

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40)

Unless EULEX is in agreement no KPS special police will go North of the IBAR. If you believe PRN please send me some of the stuff you are smoking.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"EULEX will not take north by force"

I agree with that.

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.

Michael Thomas

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is occupied by the NATO Pact. If they want to exterminate the few Serbs who live in their ancestral homes, then there is little that Serbia can do to stop them.

Talk of Albanians sending their small-time crooks, pimps and people-traffickers to attack Serbian areas is laughable. If all they had to fight against were the heroic Albanians, then Serbia’s forces would capture Pristina in a couple of days.

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.

Le roi Jenkins

pre 13 godina

I agree with that.

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40)

Unless EULEX is in agreement no KPS special police will go North of the IBAR. If you believe PRN please send me some of the stuff you are smoking.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40) "

I see ..... your idea of "responsibilities" towards your K-Serbs citizens is to use force on them against their will, eh? Very democratic, very into respect for freedom of choice and human rights I must say!

But I bet you wouldn't dare do it! Because your new masters EU will come down on you like a ton of bricks should the big lie about how K-Serbs are enjoying the multiethnic paradise of "Kosova" is exposed before the entire world!

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

Not to mention March 2004
(lowe, 2 November 2010 17:40)

If we want to get technical, the ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo began in 1942 when the Nazi's occupied Yugoslavia and allowed the ethnic Albanians to start cleansing the Serbs in Kosovo. This continued under Tito's policies until today where the Serb population has dropped to less than 3% in Kosovo when it was close to 50% before WWII.

The Albanians have the nerve to say Serbs cleansed them in 1999; they are incapable of liberating themselves and were always on the shoulder of the Ottoman empire, Nazi Germany, Fasciist Italy and now the crumbling American empire.

Chuck

pre 13 godina

It would seem, after the recent international corruptions report by the German NGO Transparency International, that the general's time would be better spent in Southern Kosovo. The EU's effort to portray Serbs as villains in the Balkans is but a smokescreen for the continued US, NATO, and EU colonizing of Eastern Europe.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha, 2 November 2010 19:50)

RE: True of False

The KLA was soundly defeated in Kosovo by the Serbian army.

TRUE.

Many took the UCK uniform and insignia off and shamelessly hid with the refugees.


The JNA was order by Crotian Vice President Markovic to secure the border of Slovenia.

TRUE

Milosevic lost and started four wars?

FALSE

He was not the President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia when the war's started in Slovenia, Crotian and Bosnia Herzegovina.

He was the President of the Republic of Serbia.

John Belushi had a Albanian background?

True, that is why he died of a cocaine drug overdose.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"EULEX will not take north by force"

I agree with that.

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.

self defence

pre 13 godina

Their man in Beograd, Tadic invited this trojan horse, now threatening with occupation and boasting it´s capabilities, who would have guessed?. Yes we saw some of that when you so heroically bombed us with atomic waste from 30000 feet & above. Try to kill serbs as real men instead and no puppet regime of yours in the world would help you...

sj

pre 13 godina

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha, 2 November 2010 19:50)

I don’t know what planet you’re living on, but Serbia carved out its own territory and if you open your eyes you’ll find that they are the best parts of the old Yugo anyway. If it did not fight it would have nothing.

Serbia plus RS are the best parts of the old Yugo, mate. The rest is not worth much. As far as you Albos fighting, well that’s a laugh. You had to have NATO come in on your side and even then they could not defeat the Serbs considering the amount of arms and equipment that was withdrawn after a negotiated settlement. Even today the so called independent Kosovo cant move without Serbia, so who won again?

12 years on and the staus quo continues – so much for the Albanians winning.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.
(Michael Thomas, 2 November 2010 13:29)

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha)
-
WOW !! Where have you been the past 20 years?

Croatia, Bosnia, Maceodnia and Serbia all together lost when Yugoslavia was lost.

You didnt have an army in kosovo? Thaci would be disapointed to hear this. Not only were you terrorizing Serbs with the KLA, havesting their organs and mass murdering them, but the USA, along with Eu and NATO all were bombing Serbia at the same time. What was gained? Poverty to the max? enemployment below the ground leading to criminalism? It is time to stop choosing ignorance over reason.

michael

pre 13 godina

Now we hear the threat of force by albanian thugs which is certainly amusing for not only Serbs, but for the various neighbors in our region.

The fact remains that albanians have not nor cannot face Serbia alone. man on man. Without US/NATO intervention...you LOOSE. Your hired gun will soon fade and then you will have to face your superior neighbor once again...alone. By then, you'll probably have to go at it against Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and Greece.

Ron

pre 13 godina

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40)

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...

sj

pre 13 godina

(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 01:53)

Krajina is one of several issues that Croatia has to resolve and its going to be the most expensive to bring to finality. Simply put all property has to be returned to their owners and compensation paid which would run into the billions of Euros – Croatia does not have these financial resources and in the end territory will have to be traded.
Kosovo stood still in 1999 and the same in 2010. Your allies should have resolved this in the early years and closed this chapter, but they were too busy gloating over the so called victory; 11 years later the world has changed and they no longer have the power to do that.
When Slovenia left the old Yugo it was financially supported by the Austrian banking system otherwise they would have lasted about 6 months and now it lives off the EU like a lot of these smaller states. Considering that Slovenia suffered neither war nor sanctions it should in theory be on par with say Swtizerland, but it’s not even close. Slovenia’s main source of income is tourism; there is very little manufacturing and what is left has or will move to Serbia – look at Gorenje, its production is in Serbia i.e. Serbs being employed not Slovenes.
The GFC has caused the EU to drastically reduce its budget so EU assistance to Slovenia has been slashed to the point that the national Slovenian budget has to reduced drastically. In the historical books I have read I have never heard of a nation’s army threatening to go on strike – Slovenia’s has done just that and all due to budget cuts.
Croatia is turning into a basket case – its various levels of political corruption where even HTV only reports of moneys being misappropriated by various politicians and governments. Croatia is in desperate need of economic cooperation with Serbia.
Montenegro was prior to the GFC 80% live on or below the poverty line. I can only imagine the conditions now. Selling real estate is not the way to a sustainable economy. It now wants some form of economic cooperation with Serbia.
Don’t just look at GDP figures because these are being inflated to maintain the illusion of prosperity. Look at the US; they are up to their necks in debt but every official source maintains the illusion of normality.
Serbia suffered 20 years sanctions so the west ruined its economy, but you see its industries have started to function and in another 10 years it will be in an even better position than ever in its history. With the Russians arriving and power changing your Albanians are going to be left high and dry.
The EU now wants the new parts of the old Yug to economically function as one so it will be Serbia on top – where do your Albos think they are going to find work? The EU, wants to return 200 000 to Kosovo so if you said Serbia then you’re right.
These so called talks are at the start of the long road to re integration. First step is to remove Thaci and his government and that’s on the way right now through another election which was ordered by the EU.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

". If they want to exterminate the few Serbs who live in their ancestral homes" - Michael

Do a google search...I'd also recommend you search "slavic migration".

johny

pre 13 godina

Nothing will happen in N. Mitro. Things will remain as they've been in the last decade. It'd be suicidal for anyone be Serb, Albanian or even EULEX if they attempted to use violence against one specific group. 1999 should have been enough of a lesson.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

Hey Jugoslavija, sorry to break it up to you man. But you are dead already 20 years ago. That is why you talk no sense at all.
(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 01:57)

So is Belushi....

Ron

pre 13 godina

(3) Considering Hollands contribution to the UN budget and the size of Holland if you send me your address I will reimburse your approximate $2 contribution, so you can move on to other issues.
(pss, 3 November 2010 09:48)

Relatively Holland is paying A LOT to UN and EU. But fine with us.
Please work on the prosperity of your own province! Good luck!

pss

pre 13 godina

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...
(Ron, 3 November 2010 06:20)
(1) Your own country begs to differ with your own opinion-how is that so hard to understand?
(2) That part may be subject to some type of negotiability.
(3) Considering Hollands contribution to the UN budget and the size of Holland if you send me your address I will reimburse your approximate $2 contribution, so you can move on to other issues.

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

When it comes to Serbian Army vs Albanian men the Serbs will surely win but when it comes to men vs men the Serbs have fared much worse.
(Zoti, 4 November 2010 14:33)


You survived thanks to uninteresting Geo and Serb goodness trough the centuries.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.
(Michael Thomas, 2 November 2010 13:29)

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.

sj

pre 13 godina

Tha time will tell. If we going to be left high and dry because of Russia, so be it. We like to have no relation at all with sllavs for the next 200 years. By the way, from you're long unswer it looks like you still have hell of the job ahead of corving you're borders. good luck with that.
(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 16:53)


Unfortunately I try and explain my statements unlike some that make a silly comment and thinks that’s the end. Serbia’s borders have not changed and Kosovo has not moved one inch since 1999. Even you stupid allies, the US, are now asking for more Russian help in their war in Afghanistan. Once NATO leaves it will be reorganised into a new organisation with Russia part of it.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

but Serbia carved out its own territory and if you open your eyes you’ll find that they are the best parts of the old Yugo anyway.
(sj, 2 November 2010 22:50)

Oh sorry I did not know Serbia carved Krajina and Kosova out with their own desire. And just out of youre courosity I did open my eyes and what I see? Sllovenia very prosper and in UE. Croatia almost there and very prosper. So is Montenegro. I see east Serbia very dark and grasping for air and running so hard to reach the train that they lost.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

True, that is why he died of a cocaine drug overdose.
(Jugoslavija, 2 November 2010 21:42)

Hey Jugoslavija, sorry to break it up to you man. But you are dead already 20 years ago. That is why you talk no sense at all.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

The fact remains that albanians have not nor cannot face Serbia alone. man on man. Without US/NATO intervention...you LOOSE. (michael, 2 November 2010)

Of course Albanians civlians will lose against a state apparatus and a massive army hellbent on exterminating them. However judging by the past history Albanians fared very well against the Serbian "men" kicking them back to where they came from.
When it comes to Serbian Army vs Albanian men the Serbs will surely win but when it comes to men vs men the Serbs have fared much worse.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...
(Ron, 3 November 2010)

(1)Kosova has been independent for almost 3 years now. I'm sure you country's government disagrees with you Ron.

(2)There's no double standard at all. Kosova gave up unification with Albania for reassuances by the West that the North would be incorporated into the new state. If the North were to go then there's nothing to preclude Kosovars from joining Albania along with the Valley Albanians in Southern Serbia.
(3)As a Westerner you bear the blame for this mess to begin with. Kosova should have never been incorporated into Serbia after the fall of the Ottoman empire but to placte the Russians and their Slav allies in the region YOU decided to carve up the Albanian territories. You are simply reaping what you sowed 100 years ago. It's the same thing YOU didi in Africa and the middle East where you created new states with total disregard to ethnic makeup of those states and as a result those regions have been mired in violent conclict for decades.
Another thing I've learnt from the Westerners is that they never give you anything for free, there's a price to pay and I hope ours won't be too high.

SRBIN 100%

pre 13 godina

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.

LOL!And again LOL!!!If you know the facts Serb didnt loose any war in Croatia there were not even 1% of our army forces if they were we will still have Krajina,if you are maybe talking about 1999 we won war against Albanians no doubt there but we couldnt compete with whole NATO without any modern weapons even than we gave them fight which they didnt expect

care

pre 13 godina

Surely you jest Znaj. And Serb Goodness is an oxymoron. Look it up in Oxford's.
(Zoti, 4 November 2010 21:31)

If that's true, you've survived thanks to an oxymoron.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

With the Russians arriving and power changing your Albanians are going to be left high and dry.
(sj, 3 November 2010 12:58)

Tha time will tell. If we going to be left high and dry because of Russia, so be it. We like to have no relation at all with sllavs for the next 200 years. By the way, from you're long unswer it looks like you still have hell of the job ahead of corving you're borders. good luck with that.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

You survived thanks to uninteresting Geo and Serb goodness trough the centuries.
(ZNAJ, 4 November 2010 18:30)

Surely you jest Znaj. And Serb Goodness is an oxymoron. Look it up in Oxford's.

PRN

pre 13 godina

"EULEX will not take north by force"

I agree with that.

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.

KOSO

pre 13 godina

". If they want to exterminate the few Serbs who live in their ancestral homes" - Michael

Do a google search...I'd also recommend you search "slavic migration".

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.
(Michael Thomas, 2 November 2010 13:29)

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.

Michael Thomas

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is occupied by the NATO Pact. If they want to exterminate the few Serbs who live in their ancestral homes, then there is little that Serbia can do to stop them.

Talk of Albanians sending their small-time crooks, pimps and people-traffickers to attack Serbian areas is laughable. If all they had to fight against were the heroic Albanians, then Serbia’s forces would capture Pristina in a couple of days.

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.

self defence

pre 13 godina

Their man in Beograd, Tadic invited this trojan horse, now threatening with occupation and boasting it´s capabilities, who would have guessed?. Yes we saw some of that when you so heroically bombed us with atomic waste from 30000 feet & above. Try to kill serbs as real men instead and no puppet regime of yours in the world would help you...

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

True, that is why he died of a cocaine drug overdose.
(Jugoslavija, 2 November 2010 21:42)

Hey Jugoslavija, sorry to break it up to you man. But you are dead already 20 years ago. That is why you talk no sense at all.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

With the Russians arriving and power changing your Albanians are going to be left high and dry.
(sj, 3 November 2010 12:58)

Tha time will tell. If we going to be left high and dry because of Russia, so be it. We like to have no relation at all with sllavs for the next 200 years. By the way, from you're long unswer it looks like you still have hell of the job ahead of corving you're borders. good luck with that.

Le roi Jenkins

pre 13 godina

I agree with that.

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40)

Unless EULEX is in agreement no KPS special police will go North of the IBAR. If you believe PRN please send me some of the stuff you are smoking.

GjonFusha

pre 13 godina

but Serbia carved out its own territory and if you open your eyes you’ll find that they are the best parts of the old Yugo anyway.
(sj, 2 November 2010 22:50)

Oh sorry I did not know Serbia carved Krajina and Kosova out with their own desire. And just out of youre courosity I did open my eyes and what I see? Sllovenia very prosper and in UE. Croatia almost there and very prosper. So is Montenegro. I see east Serbia very dark and grasping for air and running so hard to reach the train that they lost.

pss

pre 13 godina

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...
(Ron, 3 November 2010 06:20)
(1) Your own country begs to differ with your own opinion-how is that so hard to understand?
(2) That part may be subject to some type of negotiability.
(3) Considering Hollands contribution to the UN budget and the size of Holland if you send me your address I will reimburse your approximate $2 contribution, so you can move on to other issues.

johny

pre 13 godina

Nothing will happen in N. Mitro. Things will remain as they've been in the last decade. It'd be suicidal for anyone be Serb, Albanian or even EULEX if they attempted to use violence against one specific group. 1999 should have been enough of a lesson.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40) "

I see ..... your idea of "responsibilities" towards your K-Serbs citizens is to use force on them against their will, eh? Very democratic, very into respect for freedom of choice and human rights I must say!

But I bet you wouldn't dare do it! Because your new masters EU will come down on you like a ton of bricks should the big lie about how K-Serbs are enjoying the multiethnic paradise of "Kosova" is exposed before the entire world!

Chuck

pre 13 godina

It would seem, after the recent international corruptions report by the German NGO Transparency International, that the general's time would be better spent in Southern Kosovo. The EU's effort to portray Serbs as villains in the Balkans is but a smokescreen for the continued US, NATO, and EU colonizing of Eastern Europe.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

Not to mention March 2004
(lowe, 2 November 2010 17:40)

If we want to get technical, the ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo began in 1942 when the Nazi's occupied Yugoslavia and allowed the ethnic Albanians to start cleansing the Serbs in Kosovo. This continued under Tito's policies until today where the Serb population has dropped to less than 3% in Kosovo when it was close to 50% before WWII.

The Albanians have the nerve to say Serbs cleansed them in 1999; they are incapable of liberating themselves and were always on the shoulder of the Ottoman empire, Nazi Germany, Fasciist Italy and now the crumbling American empire.

michael

pre 13 godina

Now we hear the threat of force by albanian thugs which is certainly amusing for not only Serbs, but for the various neighbors in our region.

The fact remains that albanians have not nor cannot face Serbia alone. man on man. Without US/NATO intervention...you LOOSE. Your hired gun will soon fade and then you will have to face your superior neighbor once again...alone. By then, you'll probably have to go at it against Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and Greece.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha, 2 November 2010 19:50)

RE: True of False

The KLA was soundly defeated in Kosovo by the Serbian army.

TRUE.

Many took the UCK uniform and insignia off and shamelessly hid with the refugees.


The JNA was order by Crotian Vice President Markovic to secure the border of Slovenia.

TRUE

Milosevic lost and started four wars?

FALSE

He was not the President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia when the war's started in Slovenia, Crotian and Bosnia Herzegovina.

He was the President of the Republic of Serbia.

John Belushi had a Albanian background?

True, that is why he died of a cocaine drug overdose.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Although enfeebled by economic sanctions and hamstrung by its Quisling leadership, Serbia remains the only nation in south-east Europe with muscles.
(Michael Thomas, 2 November 2010 13:29)

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha)
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WOW !! Where have you been the past 20 years?

Croatia, Bosnia, Maceodnia and Serbia all together lost when Yugoslavia was lost.

You didnt have an army in kosovo? Thaci would be disapointed to hear this. Not only were you terrorizing Serbs with the KLA, havesting their organs and mass murdering them, but the USA, along with Eu and NATO all were bombing Serbia at the same time. What was gained? Poverty to the max? enemployment below the ground leading to criminalism? It is time to stop choosing ignorance over reason.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

The fact remains that albanians have not nor cannot face Serbia alone. man on man. Without US/NATO intervention...you LOOSE. (michael, 2 November 2010)

Of course Albanians civlians will lose against a state apparatus and a massive army hellbent on exterminating them. However judging by the past history Albanians fared very well against the Serbian "men" kicking them back to where they came from.
When it comes to Serbian Army vs Albanian men the Serbs will surely win but when it comes to men vs men the Serbs have fared much worse.

sj

pre 13 godina

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.
(GjonFusha, 2 November 2010 19:50)

I don’t know what planet you’re living on, but Serbia carved out its own territory and if you open your eyes you’ll find that they are the best parts of the old Yugo anyway. If it did not fight it would have nothing.

Serbia plus RS are the best parts of the old Yugo, mate. The rest is not worth much. As far as you Albos fighting, well that’s a laugh. You had to have NATO come in on your side and even then they could not defeat the Serbs considering the amount of arms and equipment that was withdrawn after a negotiated settlement. Even today the so called independent Kosovo cant move without Serbia, so who won again?

12 years on and the staus quo continues – so much for the Albanians winning.

Ron

pre 13 godina

ONLY Kosovo (Special) police/army will do the dirty job this time if required. We thank our Western friends and allies on liberation, but now as an independent country we have other responsibilities towards all thre citizens regardless nationality.
(PRN, 2 November 2010 11:40)

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...

Zoti

pre 13 godina

(1) Kosovo is not an independent state. It is a province. Is that so hard to understand?

(2) Even if Kosovo was a state: then I guess if you do not want to be part of Serbia you respect the Northen part of Kosovo not wanting to be part of Kosovo?
I mean: no double standards!

(3) I am from the West so I pay for your UN governed province...
(Ron, 3 November 2010)

(1)Kosova has been independent for almost 3 years now. I'm sure you country's government disagrees with you Ron.

(2)There's no double standard at all. Kosova gave up unification with Albania for reassuances by the West that the North would be incorporated into the new state. If the North were to go then there's nothing to preclude Kosovars from joining Albania along with the Valley Albanians in Southern Serbia.
(3)As a Westerner you bear the blame for this mess to begin with. Kosova should have never been incorporated into Serbia after the fall of the Ottoman empire but to placte the Russians and their Slav allies in the region YOU decided to carve up the Albanian territories. You are simply reaping what you sowed 100 years ago. It's the same thing YOU didi in Africa and the middle East where you created new states with total disregard to ethnic makeup of those states and as a result those regions have been mired in violent conclict for decades.
Another thing I've learnt from the Westerners is that they never give you anything for free, there's a price to pay and I hope ours won't be too high.

Zoti

pre 13 godina

You survived thanks to uninteresting Geo and Serb goodness trough the centuries.
(ZNAJ, 4 November 2010 18:30)

Surely you jest Znaj. And Serb Goodness is an oxymoron. Look it up in Oxford's.

Jugoslavija

pre 13 godina

Hey Jugoslavija, sorry to break it up to you man. But you are dead already 20 years ago. That is why you talk no sense at all.
(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 01:57)

So is Belushi....

sj

pre 13 godina

Tha time will tell. If we going to be left high and dry because of Russia, so be it. We like to have no relation at all with sllavs for the next 200 years. By the way, from you're long unswer it looks like you still have hell of the job ahead of corving you're borders. good luck with that.
(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 16:53)


Unfortunately I try and explain my statements unlike some that make a silly comment and thinks that’s the end. Serbia’s borders have not changed and Kosovo has not moved one inch since 1999. Even you stupid allies, the US, are now asking for more Russian help in their war in Afghanistan. Once NATO leaves it will be reorganised into a new organisation with Russia part of it.

sj

pre 13 godina

(GjonFusha, 3 November 2010 01:53)

Krajina is one of several issues that Croatia has to resolve and its going to be the most expensive to bring to finality. Simply put all property has to be returned to their owners and compensation paid which would run into the billions of Euros – Croatia does not have these financial resources and in the end territory will have to be traded.
Kosovo stood still in 1999 and the same in 2010. Your allies should have resolved this in the early years and closed this chapter, but they were too busy gloating over the so called victory; 11 years later the world has changed and they no longer have the power to do that.
When Slovenia left the old Yugo it was financially supported by the Austrian banking system otherwise they would have lasted about 6 months and now it lives off the EU like a lot of these smaller states. Considering that Slovenia suffered neither war nor sanctions it should in theory be on par with say Swtizerland, but it’s not even close. Slovenia’s main source of income is tourism; there is very little manufacturing and what is left has or will move to Serbia – look at Gorenje, its production is in Serbia i.e. Serbs being employed not Slovenes.
The GFC has caused the EU to drastically reduce its budget so EU assistance to Slovenia has been slashed to the point that the national Slovenian budget has to reduced drastically. In the historical books I have read I have never heard of a nation’s army threatening to go on strike – Slovenia’s has done just that and all due to budget cuts.
Croatia is turning into a basket case – its various levels of political corruption where even HTV only reports of moneys being misappropriated by various politicians and governments. Croatia is in desperate need of economic cooperation with Serbia.
Montenegro was prior to the GFC 80% live on or below the poverty line. I can only imagine the conditions now. Selling real estate is not the way to a sustainable economy. It now wants some form of economic cooperation with Serbia.
Don’t just look at GDP figures because these are being inflated to maintain the illusion of prosperity. Look at the US; they are up to their necks in debt but every official source maintains the illusion of normality.
Serbia suffered 20 years sanctions so the west ruined its economy, but you see its industries have started to function and in another 10 years it will be in an even better position than ever in its history. With the Russians arriving and power changing your Albanians are going to be left high and dry.
The EU now wants the new parts of the old Yug to economically function as one so it will be Serbia on top – where do your Albos think they are going to find work? The EU, wants to return 200 000 to Kosovo so if you said Serbia then you’re right.
These so called talks are at the start of the long road to re integration. First step is to remove Thaci and his government and that’s on the way right now through another election which was ordered by the EU.

Ron

pre 13 godina

(3) Considering Hollands contribution to the UN budget and the size of Holland if you send me your address I will reimburse your approximate $2 contribution, so you can move on to other issues.
(pss, 3 November 2010 09:48)

Relatively Holland is paying A LOT to UN and EU. But fine with us.
Please work on the prosperity of your own province! Good luck!

ZMAJ

pre 13 godina

When it comes to Serbian Army vs Albanian men the Serbs will surely win but when it comes to men vs men the Serbs have fared much worse.
(Zoti, 4 November 2010 14:33)


You survived thanks to uninteresting Geo and Serb goodness trough the centuries.

SRBIN 100%

pre 13 godina

Since Serbia is so powerfull as you claim, than how come you guys started four wars and lost all of them? Even against albanians in Kosova with no army at all.

LOL!And again LOL!!!If you know the facts Serb didnt loose any war in Croatia there were not even 1% of our army forces if they were we will still have Krajina,if you are maybe talking about 1999 we won war against Albanians no doubt there but we couldnt compete with whole NATO without any modern weapons even than we gave them fight which they didnt expect

care

pre 13 godina

Surely you jest Znaj. And Serb Goodness is an oxymoron. Look it up in Oxford's.
(Zoti, 4 November 2010 21:31)

If that's true, you've survived thanks to an oxymoron.