"Serbs shouldn't boycott Kosovo elections"

"The fact is that we do not have government in Kosovo, nor do we control the situation, and what it's final status will be will not depend on when and how we use terms southern Serb province, territory under temporary government of Priština, neighbor. This is playing around with virtual reality in which in fact the very process of Serbia joining the EU is attempted to be denied," he said.


At leats there is someone out there from Serbia that sees the world for what it is. Thumbs up to this gentelman, for speaking the truth.

But as far as I know - nothing was done officially. Unofficially, quite a percentage of cars in Pristina still (seen in April 2010) have "PR" plates. That does not seem to bother KPS, probably few Euros can buy that they close the eye.

Looks for me that who really need - they can bribe their way through either side. Who does not need - don't care. Can it be done better?
(Ataman, 31 October 2010 16:12)

ej, I agree with you and I have seen myself here and there some old Ladas driving with old Pr. plates. But, have you paid attention who the drivers and passengers are? I did, and they are old people that look like they have not had any food for long time, let alone to dish out money to bribe KP. Get of the subject man, when was your last time you have been in Kosova???
p.s. I f I was a cop, and see an elderly couple driving a beat up car even without plates, I will let them go.

I feel bad saying this...but WE TOLD YOU!!

We're your neighbor, Serbia's control over Kosovo ended in 1999, a new political reality was officially set on 17 Feb 2008.

Recognize and move on.

I feel bad saying this...but WE TOLD YOU!!

We're your neighbor, Serbia's control over Kosovo ended in 1999, a new political reality was officially set on 17 Feb 2008.

Recognize and move on.
(KOSO)-
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What are we negotiating then? We all know Serbia can never recognize you.

Game over! This person obviously has been read the riot act along with many other Serbian political officials from various parties. Now it is up to these politicians to convince people like the highduke and winston that their habitual rants are doing nothing but keeping Serbia from advancing and becoming part of the New Europe.

DONT BELIEVE THIS. These comments are a ploy to get the Abanians back into negotiations. It's part of psych-warfare. We saw it before when Jeremic said 50 recognitions would follow immediately after the ICJ rulling. We saw it when Tadic said less than 2 months ago 'all options were open' for talks but has since said otherwise many times.

What are we negotiating then? We all know Serbia can never recognize you.
(trudsaam, 31 October 2010 18:31)

To me it seems that time is being given to the Serbs to get out of the corner they've put themselves in with extreme provisions such as their constitution, the ICJ filing, the countless resolution attempts, or silly ideas such their game of inequalities which they envision for the future of Albanians (more than this but less than that) . It seems as time is being given to the Serbs to cool off their heads, and get out of the bitterness and quite frankly hatred they shelter towards the West and Albanians. They've been asking to act normal (normalize relation with us); and finally if they're smart enough sometime in the future, maybe in the next decade, they can enter the EU after a deal over the exchange such as N. Mitro for recognition and UN membership of Kosova is sealed. It seems to me that this seems to be the path things are going towards. First they spank you, than they give you candy, then they tie your hands, then they cool you off, then they tell you to act normal, then they tell you what you will take and accept. If not you're off from their wallets.

regarding normalizing it is correct.
Example: Dacic promised during his interview with Jeta Xharra that he will take care about the license plate problem and as I recall even gave a deadline. We are now one year behind the deadline. Is it THAT hard?

The solution isn't that tough. For instance, let people buy temporary plates (or - even better - regular plates) at the border. Serbian "borderline" insurance policies can be purchased on admin. crossings since 1999.

But as far as I know - nothing was done officially. Unofficially, quite a percentage of cars in Pristina still (seen in April 2010) have "PR" plates. That does not seem to bother KPS, probably few Euros can buy that they close the eye.

Looks for me that who really need - they can bribe their way through either side. Who does not need - don't care. Can it be done better?

What are we negotiating then? We all know Serbia can never recognize you.
(trudsaam, 31 October 2010 18:31)

Good question. The only thing I have heard from both camps is-
--Serbs: NO independence
--Kosovars: NO Serb rule (of ANY sort)
Maybe both have good intentions ,maybe both are only doing this for their own political purposes , but one thing is certain , nature taking the path of least resistence , it doesnt look good for any deal.The status quo is far more palitable than what is being offered by the other side.

What are we negotiating then?
(trudsaam, 31 October 2010 18:31)

Nothing. The talks between Pristina - Belgrade are about good neighborly relations in everyday issues (border, crime, missing, etc). I don't understand where you got the idea that there will be any negotiating.

Kosovo is independent.

Serbia has NO AUTHORITY in kosovo. Go ahead and mention 1244...that is what confirmed it.

There will only come acceptance of reality from Serbia. Wrapped up and packaged in that special way that Serbs leadership know how to feed its populace.

Get ready for the evolution of language from the govt. of Serbia, all the rights, powers,representation, decentralization of local govt. that kosovo happily giftwraps for its serbian citizens gives plenty of room to AID Serbia in saving face.

re-organizing and renaming the same rights, powers, representation, and decentralized local govt. that stays inline with the Constitution of Kosovo will give Serbia the bragging rights it needs about what they have "accomplished" for kosovo Serbs.

say hello to the compromise coming your way, because the "status of kosovo Serbs" is all that Serbia can pretend to be able to influence.

We have had many of these western-paid politicians open their mouths talking about Kosovo in one form or fashion, but before you Albos hyperventilate I’d await for the official recognition from the Serbian Government of the “independence of Kosova”.

You guys spend too much time trying to convince the Serbs it’s a done deal. Sorry to disappoint but it’s a “long, long road to Tipperary”. You would get a better result from reading the entrails of a goat than listening to Dragoljub Mićunović. All this guy is concerned about is the EU so naturally he is going to play up to his pay masters.

The situation in KiM is very difficult, the is not future by maintaining the status quo. The albs need to realize recognition is not going to happen but belgrade needs to realize that getting a negotiated solution won't be a walk in the park either since it has little leverage with the narco-mafia running the place.

RE: EU Facade

Until Serbia realizes that the EU an organization that holds no real benefit for joining, the better. Serbia has no real comparitive advantage in prodution, goods or services to join such an organization.

Serbia does not need to be blakmailed to recognize the fake state of Kosovo. Kosovo will never enter the UN or other interntational organizations, it will remain a pariah state in the middle of Europe.

In fact, better for Serbia not to pump more funds in the black hole and let the EU dump the money this time.

Hachim Thaci will ensure victory at the elections with US support. He will intimidate other parties as this is not real democratic process as shown by attempts to assasinate rival Albanian politicians during the civil s war in Kosovo.

It would be the biggest mistake for Serbs to boycott the next election, since this is a real chance for Serbs to set the biggest parliamentary party. The turnout among Albanians with be extremely low. Currently, Albanians disdain all Albanian parties. The parties themselves are falling out. The people of Kosovo feel mugged and humiliated by lies and corruption. Imagine this situation, which is absolutely likely if Serbs vote united: The strongest parliamentary party (serbian) is needed to form a government. This power has to participate at the negotiations with Belgrade about Kosovos future! How would the agenda look like then?

"Serbs should boycott Kosovo elections"

Serbs should boycott it's puppet parliament as well.

The statement of this traitor is no different than that of any other "Democrat." Accepting "realities on the ground" simply acquiesces to the demands of the US and EU. The recent Wikileaks release should be enough to show all Serbs that the US and EU are no friend to Serbia. To them, Serbia is just a tool to extend their evil hegemony where it is isn't wanted. Treason has only one remedy!

I feel bad saying this...but WE TOLD YOU!!

We're your neighbor, Serbia's control over Kosovo ended in 1999, a new political reality was officially set on 17 Feb 2008.

Recognize and move on.

regarding normalizing it is correct.
Example: Dacic promised during his interview with Jeta Xharra that he will take care about the license plate problem and as I recall even gave a deadline. We are now one year behind the deadline. Is it THAT hard?

The solution isn't that tough. For instance, let people buy temporary plates (or - even better - regular plates) at the border. Serbian "borderline" insurance policies can be purchased on admin. crossings since 1999.

But as far as I know - nothing was done officially. Unofficially, quite a percentage of cars in Pristina still (seen in April 2010) have "PR" plates. That does not seem to bother KPS, probably few Euros can buy that they close the eye.

Looks for me that who really need - they can bribe their way through either side. Who does not need - don't care. Can it be done better?

I feel bad saying this...but WE TOLD YOU!!

We're your neighbor, Serbia's control over Kosovo ended in 1999, a new political reality was officially set on 17 Feb 2008.

Recognize and move on.
(KOSO)-
-
What are we negotiating then? We all know Serbia can never recognize you.

DONT BELIEVE THIS. These comments are a ploy to get the Abanians back into negotiations. It's part of psych-warfare. We saw it before when Jeremic said 50 recognitions would follow immediately after the ICJ rulling. We saw it when Tadic said less than 2 months ago 'all options were open' for talks but has since said otherwise many times.

"The fact is that we do not have government in Kosovo, nor do we control the situation, and what it's final status will be will not depend on when and how we use terms southern Serb province, territory under temporary government of Priština, neighbor. This is playing around with virtual reality in which in fact the very process of Serbia joining the EU is attempted to be denied," he said.


At leats there is someone out there from Serbia that sees the world for what it is. Thumbs up to this gentelman, for speaking the truth.

Game over! This person obviously has been read the riot act along with many other Serbian political officials from various parties. Now it is up to these politicians to convince people like the highduke and winston that their habitual rants are doing nothing but keeping Serbia from advancing and becoming part of the New Europe.

But as far as I know - nothing was done officially. Unofficially, quite a percentage of cars in Pristina still (seen in April 2010) have "PR" plates. That does not seem to bother KPS, probably few Euros can buy that they close the eye.

Looks for me that who really need - they can bribe their way through either side. Who does not need - don't care. Can it be done better?
(Ataman, 31 October 2010 16:12)

ej, I agree with you and I have seen myself here and there some old Ladas driving with old Pr. plates. But, have you paid attention who the drivers and passengers are? I did, and they are old people that look like they have not had any food for long time, let alone to dish out money to bribe KP. Get of the subject man, when was your last time you have been in Kosova???
p.s. I f I was a cop, and see an elderly couple driving a beat up car even without plates, I will let them go.

The situation in KiM is very difficult, the is not future by maintaining the status quo. The albs need to realize recognition is not going to happen but belgrade needs to realize that getting a negotiated solution won't be a walk in the park either since it has little leverage with the narco-mafia running the place.

Kosovo is independent.

Serbia has NO AUTHORITY in kosovo. Go ahead and mention 1244...that is what confirmed it.

There will only come acceptance of reality from Serbia. Wrapped up and packaged in that special way that Serbs leadership know how to feed its populace.

Get ready for the evolution of language from the govt. of Serbia, all the rights, powers,representation, decentralization of local govt. that kosovo happily giftwraps for its serbian citizens gives plenty of room to AID Serbia in saving face.

re-organizing and renaming the same rights, powers, representation, and decentralized local govt. that stays inline with the Constitution of Kosovo will give Serbia the bragging rights it needs about what they have "accomplished" for kosovo Serbs.

say hello to the compromise coming your way, because the "status of kosovo Serbs" is all that Serbia can pretend to be able to influence.

What are we negotiating then?
(trudsaam, 31 October 2010 18:31)

Nothing. The talks between Pristina - Belgrade are about good neighborly relations in everyday issues (border, crime, missing, etc). I don't understand where you got the idea that there will be any negotiating.

We have had many of these western-paid politicians open their mouths talking about Kosovo in one form or fashion, but before you Albos hyperventilate I’d await for the official recognition from the Serbian Government of the “independence of Kosova”.

You guys spend too much time trying to convince the Serbs it’s a done deal. Sorry to disappoint but it’s a “long, long road to Tipperary”. You would get a better result from reading the entrails of a goat than listening to Dragoljub Mićunović. All this guy is concerned about is the EU so naturally he is going to play up to his pay masters.

What are we negotiating then? We all know Serbia can never recognize you.
(trudsaam, 31 October 2010 18:31)

To me it seems that time is being given to the Serbs to get out of the corner they've put themselves in with extreme provisions such as their constitution, the ICJ filing, the countless resolution attempts, or silly ideas such their game of inequalities which they envision for the future of Albanians (more than this but less than that) . It seems as time is being given to the Serbs to cool off their heads, and get out of the bitterness and quite frankly hatred they shelter towards the West and Albanians. They've been asking to act normal (normalize relation with us); and finally if they're smart enough sometime in the future, maybe in the next decade, they can enter the EU after a deal over the exchange such as N. Mitro for recognition and UN membership of Kosova is sealed. It seems to me that this seems to be the path things are going towards. First they spank you, than they give you candy, then they tie your hands, then they cool you off, then they tell you to act normal, then they tell you what you will take and accept. If not you're off from their wallets.

RE: EU Facade

Until Serbia realizes that the EU an organization that holds no real benefit for joining, the better. Serbia has no real comparitive advantage in prodution, goods or services to join such an organization.

Serbia does not need to be blakmailed to recognize the fake state of Kosovo. Kosovo will never enter the UN or other interntational organizations, it will remain a pariah state in the middle of Europe.

In fact, better for Serbia not to pump more funds in the black hole and let the EU dump the money this time.

Hachim Thaci will ensure victory at the elections with US support. He will intimidate other parties as this is not real democratic process as shown by attempts to assasinate rival Albanian politicians during the civil s war in Kosovo.

What are we negotiating then? We all know Serbia can never recognize you.
(trudsaam, 31 October 2010 18:31)

Good question. The only thing I have heard from both camps is-
--Serbs: NO independence
--Kosovars: NO Serb rule (of ANY sort)
Maybe both have good intentions ,maybe both are only doing this for their own political purposes , but one thing is certain , nature taking the path of least resistence , it doesnt look good for any deal.The status quo is far more palitable than what is being offered by the other side.

"Serbs should boycott Kosovo elections"

Serbs should boycott it's puppet parliament as well.

It would be the biggest mistake for Serbs to boycott the next election, since this is a real chance for Serbs to set the biggest parliamentary party. The turnout among Albanians with be extremely low. Currently, Albanians disdain all Albanian parties. The parties themselves are falling out. The people of Kosovo feel mugged and humiliated by lies and corruption. Imagine this situation, which is absolutely likely if Serbs vote united: The strongest parliamentary party (serbian) is needed to form a government. This power has to participate at the negotiations with Belgrade about Kosovos future! How would the agenda look like then?

The statement of this traitor is no different than that of any other "Democrat." Accepting "realities on the ground" simply acquiesces to the demands of the US and EU. The recent Wikileaks release should be enough to show all Serbs that the US and EU are no friend to Serbia. To them, Serbia is just a tool to extend their evil hegemony where it is isn't wanted. Treason has only one remedy!