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Sunday, 24.10.2010.

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“U.S. supports Serbia’s EU bid”

U.S. has supported Serbia’s candidacy bid ahead of the EU decision on Monday, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Thomas Countryman told B92.

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DimTuc

pre 13 godina

The bodycount figures are absolute minimums, based on when the actual name, place and means of killing can be established. In a war zone real figures are next to impossible.

The reputable British medical journal the Lancet some years ago did a thorough study of "excess deaths" in Iraq which showed a million had died.

Now before pro-US Albanians jump on the Lancet, and before anti-Albanian Serbs jump to defend it, and for all those preferring double standards, here's the rub: the exact same Lancet also did an excellent study that showed that excess deaths of *Albanians* in Kosova in 1999 was some 12,000, with another 2000 missing. Take your pick, anyone that wants to defend barbarism.

I think both studies were right on target.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"The 100,000 figure included all deaths in IRAQ - US, UK military, security services from everywhere, Iraqi military and police, Al-Qaeda, and Iraqi civilians. Civilian deaths were around 67,000 - IED's, car-bombs, suicide bombers, death squads, etc. Most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis.

In Afghanistan there are far fewer civilian deaths - there's not a 3-way civil war going on there, for one thing. In 2009, the worst year so far, 2419 civilians were killed (UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan); they attributed 2/3 of those to "anti-government forces" and 596 to American-led forces, with 359 of these being due to US/Nato airstrikes. [link] That's 359 too many, of course, but then, it isn't 100,000, either.

The numbers through July 2010 are here: [link]
(Amer, 24 October 2010 23:01)"

Your figures are official figures which were probably released to the UN and the internatinal community by the Yankees and Nato themselves.

The watchdog WikiLeaks' recently released figures that stated which mentioned OVER 100,000 IRAQI CIVILIANS deaths arising from the war. There is no denying that had the Yankees not invaded Iraq, most of these 100,000 Iraqi civilian dead would have been alive today.

Same logic applies to Afghanistan. Had the US not invaded and prolonged their stay there to this day, the ever civilian carnage would have been avoided.

What's the use of trumpeting human rights and freedom and democracy to the dead?

Aleks

pre 13 godina

U.S. Whatever. They are only protecting their own investments (for example the us funding of Belgrade airports modernization and expansion) and future markets.

On the death toll front, let us not forget the 500,000 deaths attributable to a decades worth of sanction on Iraq, but hey, maybe they don't count because it wasn't a war? Albright thought it was worth it.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"I am referring to the way they organized their criminal air strikes and military attacks in places like Afghanistan and the resultant more than 100,000 civilian casualties."

The 100,000 figure included all deaths in IRAQ - US, UK military, security services from everywhere, Iraqi military and police, Al-Qaeda, and Iraqi civilians. Civilian deaths were around 67,000 - IED's, car-bombs, suicide bombers, death squads, etc. Most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis.

In Afghanistan there are far fewer civilian deaths - there's not a 3-way civil war going on there, for one thing. In 2009, the worst year so far, 2419 civilians were killed (UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan); they attributed 2/3 of those to "anti-government forces" and 596 to American-led forces, with 359 of these being due to US/Nato airstrikes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29 That's 359 too many, of course, but then, it isn't 100,000, either.

The numbers through July 2010 are here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/aug/10/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-statistics

Joe A

pre 13 godina

He said that every country has hooligans. Yes, in the US they are called the pentagon.
So, the US gave their blessing? Now the EU can roll over and give paws.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"He says that one of the obstacles on Serbia’s road toward the EU is organized crime."

Methinks the Yankees are in fact the worst perpetrators of "organized crime" -- I am referring to the way they organized their criminal air strikes and military attacks in places like Afghanistan and the resultant more than 100,000 civilian casualties.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"He says that one of the obstacles on Serbia’s road toward the EU is organized crime."

Methinks the Yankees are in fact the worst perpetrators of "organized crime" -- I am referring to the way they organized their criminal air strikes and military attacks in places like Afghanistan and the resultant more than 100,000 civilian casualties.

Joe A

pre 13 godina

He said that every country has hooligans. Yes, in the US they are called the pentagon.
So, the US gave their blessing? Now the EU can roll over and give paws.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"The 100,000 figure included all deaths in IRAQ - US, UK military, security services from everywhere, Iraqi military and police, Al-Qaeda, and Iraqi civilians. Civilian deaths were around 67,000 - IED's, car-bombs, suicide bombers, death squads, etc. Most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis.

In Afghanistan there are far fewer civilian deaths - there's not a 3-way civil war going on there, for one thing. In 2009, the worst year so far, 2419 civilians were killed (UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan); they attributed 2/3 of those to "anti-government forces" and 596 to American-led forces, with 359 of these being due to US/Nato airstrikes. [link] That's 359 too many, of course, but then, it isn't 100,000, either.

The numbers through July 2010 are here: [link]
(Amer, 24 October 2010 23:01)"

Your figures are official figures which were probably released to the UN and the internatinal community by the Yankees and Nato themselves.

The watchdog WikiLeaks' recently released figures that stated which mentioned OVER 100,000 IRAQI CIVILIANS deaths arising from the war. There is no denying that had the Yankees not invaded Iraq, most of these 100,000 Iraqi civilian dead would have been alive today.

Same logic applies to Afghanistan. Had the US not invaded and prolonged their stay there to this day, the ever civilian carnage would have been avoided.

What's the use of trumpeting human rights and freedom and democracy to the dead?

Aleks

pre 13 godina

U.S. Whatever. They are only protecting their own investments (for example the us funding of Belgrade airports modernization and expansion) and future markets.

On the death toll front, let us not forget the 500,000 deaths attributable to a decades worth of sanction on Iraq, but hey, maybe they don't count because it wasn't a war? Albright thought it was worth it.

DimTuc

pre 13 godina

The bodycount figures are absolute minimums, based on when the actual name, place and means of killing can be established. In a war zone real figures are next to impossible.

The reputable British medical journal the Lancet some years ago did a thorough study of "excess deaths" in Iraq which showed a million had died.

Now before pro-US Albanians jump on the Lancet, and before anti-Albanian Serbs jump to defend it, and for all those preferring double standards, here's the rub: the exact same Lancet also did an excellent study that showed that excess deaths of *Albanians* in Kosova in 1999 was some 12,000, with another 2000 missing. Take your pick, anyone that wants to defend barbarism.

I think both studies were right on target.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"I am referring to the way they organized their criminal air strikes and military attacks in places like Afghanistan and the resultant more than 100,000 civilian casualties."

The 100,000 figure included all deaths in IRAQ - US, UK military, security services from everywhere, Iraqi military and police, Al-Qaeda, and Iraqi civilians. Civilian deaths were around 67,000 - IED's, car-bombs, suicide bombers, death squads, etc. Most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis.

In Afghanistan there are far fewer civilian deaths - there's not a 3-way civil war going on there, for one thing. In 2009, the worst year so far, 2419 civilians were killed (UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan); they attributed 2/3 of those to "anti-government forces" and 596 to American-led forces, with 359 of these being due to US/Nato airstrikes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29 That's 359 too many, of course, but then, it isn't 100,000, either.

The numbers through July 2010 are here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/aug/10/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-statistics

lowe

pre 13 godina

"He says that one of the obstacles on Serbia’s road toward the EU is organized crime."

Methinks the Yankees are in fact the worst perpetrators of "organized crime" -- I am referring to the way they organized their criminal air strikes and military attacks in places like Afghanistan and the resultant more than 100,000 civilian casualties.

Joe A

pre 13 godina

He said that every country has hooligans. Yes, in the US they are called the pentagon.
So, the US gave their blessing? Now the EU can roll over and give paws.

Amer

pre 13 godina

"I am referring to the way they organized their criminal air strikes and military attacks in places like Afghanistan and the resultant more than 100,000 civilian casualties."

The 100,000 figure included all deaths in IRAQ - US, UK military, security services from everywhere, Iraqi military and police, Al-Qaeda, and Iraqi civilians. Civilian deaths were around 67,000 - IED's, car-bombs, suicide bombers, death squads, etc. Most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis.

In Afghanistan there are far fewer civilian deaths - there's not a 3-way civil war going on there, for one thing. In 2009, the worst year so far, 2419 civilians were killed (UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan); they attributed 2/3 of those to "anti-government forces" and 596 to American-led forces, with 359 of these being due to US/Nato airstrikes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29 That's 359 too many, of course, but then, it isn't 100,000, either.

The numbers through July 2010 are here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/aug/10/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-statistics

DimTuc

pre 13 godina

The bodycount figures are absolute minimums, based on when the actual name, place and means of killing can be established. In a war zone real figures are next to impossible.

The reputable British medical journal the Lancet some years ago did a thorough study of "excess deaths" in Iraq which showed a million had died.

Now before pro-US Albanians jump on the Lancet, and before anti-Albanian Serbs jump to defend it, and for all those preferring double standards, here's the rub: the exact same Lancet also did an excellent study that showed that excess deaths of *Albanians* in Kosova in 1999 was some 12,000, with another 2000 missing. Take your pick, anyone that wants to defend barbarism.

I think both studies were right on target.

Aleks

pre 13 godina

U.S. Whatever. They are only protecting their own investments (for example the us funding of Belgrade airports modernization and expansion) and future markets.

On the death toll front, let us not forget the 500,000 deaths attributable to a decades worth of sanction on Iraq, but hey, maybe they don't count because it wasn't a war? Albright thought it was worth it.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"The 100,000 figure included all deaths in IRAQ - US, UK military, security services from everywhere, Iraqi military and police, Al-Qaeda, and Iraqi civilians. Civilian deaths were around 67,000 - IED's, car-bombs, suicide bombers, death squads, etc. Most Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis.

In Afghanistan there are far fewer civilian deaths - there's not a 3-way civil war going on there, for one thing. In 2009, the worst year so far, 2419 civilians were killed (UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan); they attributed 2/3 of those to "anti-government forces" and 596 to American-led forces, with 359 of these being due to US/Nato airstrikes. [link] That's 359 too many, of course, but then, it isn't 100,000, either.

The numbers through July 2010 are here: [link]
(Amer, 24 October 2010 23:01)"

Your figures are official figures which were probably released to the UN and the internatinal community by the Yankees and Nato themselves.

The watchdog WikiLeaks' recently released figures that stated which mentioned OVER 100,000 IRAQI CIVILIANS deaths arising from the war. There is no denying that had the Yankees not invaded Iraq, most of these 100,000 Iraqi civilian dead would have been alive today.

Same logic applies to Afghanistan. Had the US not invaded and prolonged their stay there to this day, the ever civilian carnage would have been avoided.

What's the use of trumpeting human rights and freedom and democracy to the dead?