Mladic will die in his own bed and be remembered as a warrior for his people. Tadic will die in poverty and exile in New York and no one will remember him. Dodik will die in Banja Luka, a city in Serbia.
For all those that see the ICJFY as a real court I have some news for them. A prominent jurist and former Governor General of Australia, Sir Ninian Stephens, was the first to join this newly established organization and he lasted 12 months before he realized that this was not a court of justice but a “political court. He abandoned it immediately and never mentioned it in any of his subsequent speeches. Sir Ninian is a world renowned jurist whose judgments are even studied in the US.
The milosevic trial never ended - your judgement of it therefore is not based on the outcome.
There is a political angle to all law -particularly when you have such vicious abuse of the norms as happened in Bosnia. The Hague was set up under the rules of international law to which Jugoslavia was a signatory. It gives a much fairer trail than Mladic gave to his victims.
In the case of Kosovo, my point is that Milosevic blew it politically - he (and the kind of arguement you use) ensured the loss of Kosovo. Very inept.
Serbia lost any sympathy because of the war crimes - and as a consequence lost control of Kosovo. That was an outcome of bad politics on the part of nationalists and Milosevic in particular.
Any accused General should face trial, not hide away.
If he has a case, let him make it.
(Bob, 21 October 2010 02:24)
Reality is far different than justice; the Hague Tribunal is not a court of law but a political court.
The case against Milosevic was not proved and was a farce; the Hague Tribunal still saw it fit to convict General Pavkovic, Nikola Sainovic General Lacerevic with without any proof of "war crimes" as defined by the Geneva and other war conventions.
Albanian propoganda continues to paint the hollywood pictures of mass genocide, absolutely no proof exists, picture or otherwise of a mass exodus of 1 Mil people from Kosovo, In fact, more proof exists that NATO bombed Kosovo to a pulp and is responible for war reperations to the Republic of Serbia and Kosovo citizens.
Agim, The quote I posted was from this very B92 article. It was the article that quoted Blic. If there is some other quote in this article that you are referring to, let me know what the quote is, because I can't find it.
i don't necessarily believe in collective responsibility. but -- where is the outcry from the common people of serbia to send these war criminals to the hague?
that's what i thought.
thanks, danilo. chvala mnoga.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 21 October 2010 05:31)
==================
Where's the outcry in Sarajevo about Oric and the like facing justice?
That's what I thought.
Where's your outcry for Oric, Haradinaj, Ceku, Thaci and Gotovina to face justice?
That's what I thought.
Oh Roberto, you are so biased. Please just stop. I can't take the crap any longer.
# Mladic is being hidden by his roommates...
(Danilo, 20 October 2010 20:35)
Danilo -- you are the real mc coy! so to speak. i played the whole link/show -- biting dark humor, to say the least.
personally i don't find anything about mass murder and genocide to be funny. but we've long used satire to deal with bizarre and unpleasant realities. and what is less pleasant and more bizarre than a country that holds its mass murderers as beloved national heroes?
i don't necessarily believe in collective responsibility. but -- where is the outcry from the common people of serbia to send these war criminals to the hague?
Do posters on this site really defend these war crimes? I don't see how you can - it is a very introverted view of reality.
It would be better for everyone if he gave himself up. Including him.
I hope that Tadic has not avoided arresting Mladic for political reasons - that would be treachery against law, humanity and Serbia.
No one who arrests Mladic is a traitor. War criminals have tainted Serbia's reputation in the world. If you support war criminals then you damage Serbia.
Criminals are people who break the rules of war. Soldiers should fight with an amount of honour - that was sadly lacking in Bosnia.
I believe Kosovo should be part of Serbia - I also believe that Mladic should answer his accusers.
Serbia lost any sympathy because of the war crimes - and as a consequence lost control of Kosovo. That was an outcome of bad politics on the part of nationalists and Milosevic in particular.
Any accused General should face trial, not hide away.
--That is very convenient seeing that time is a subjective thing. It could be a matter of time now or it could be a matter of time a decade later; you know like it was a decade earlier. Tadic basically made a word salad that says nothing.
He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that he would not "make a prognosis" as to when exactly the arrest would happen, but added he hoped it would be "in the foreseeable future".
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He stated that he doesn't know when the arrest will happen, but he HOPED it would be in the foreseeable future. So where did your "ONLY few days" come from PRN, and where did your "the arest will happen in near future" come from Kosova-USA
(Ark I, 20 October 2010 17:58)
you are quoting daily blic, yet I am ghoing by what i am reading in b92. worlds apart , my friend.
Lenard, what do you propose Serbia do with RS, which is a sovereign country? Should Tadic go to Banja Luka and demand from Dodik that he surrender all power to the Muslims in Sarajevo? What is going on in your brains, folks? How about RS splits from BiH, becomes independent, and the Muslims and Croats can then live in harmony, ever after?
(winston, 20 October 2010 14:11) That is a good one winston Srpska a entity a sovereign country. Serbian President Boris Tadić should go to Banja Luka and tell Dodo to knock it off. That Bosnia is their country in no uncertain terms and also for Belgrade stop using subterfuge in Bosnia. Get on building a common future in Bosnia just like the Croatian presidents said and are saying. Have you heard of Democracy the Muslims do not make the majority Croatians and Serbs can out vote them. But all citizens of Bosnia will vote if things make sense and is for the good of all. Instead of going for each others throats and mutual destruction time to turn to a new different way. The way things are in a holding pattern its only matter of time that it will lead to more deadly conflict.
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Tadic needs ONLY few days to send him to the Hague.
(PRN, 20 October 2010 14:12)
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Very funny comment. On top of the article ,Tadic is saying that;the arest will happen in near future, yet as you get to the bottom of the article, he says that; even if Hague Tribunal shuts down we will still look for Mladic. wow, dn't know what to believe anymore!
(Kosova-USA, 20 October 2010 11:00)
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You guys are just displaying your lack of intelligence. Did you forget that the words of the article are right there for everybody to see?
Here is what he said,
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He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that he would not "make a prognosis" as to when exactly the arrest would happen, but added he hoped it would be "in the foreseeable future".
---
He stated that he doesn't know when the arrest will happen, but he HOPED it would be in the foreseeable future. So where did your "ONLY few days" come from PRN, and where did your "the arest will happen in near future" come from Kosova-USA
Yet still the most likely scenario may be to kill him (while pretending that he resisted) so that a significant (awful) chapter for Serbia may be somewhat fogy and to certain degree closed....PRN
Is that the way the Albanians would solve this matter, PRN? Maybe Mladic could have a deadly traffic accident, while driving himself to the Hague? See, I am starting to think like an Albanian.
No, Bryan, American politicians, and military, can kill with impunity. They are never held accountable for their war crimes, because they control the international courts. Aside from a show trial of some poor PFC killing some defenseless Muslim in a fit of rage. Why aren't Thaci and Ceku keeping Haradinaj company in Dutchland? Oh, right, the US impunity thing is in force there too.
The Serbian government has no stomach to arrest Ratko Mladic. It would be political suicide for any Serbian government to do it as it will result in accusations of treachery and Belgrade will be torn apart by rioting. The average Serbian citizen has been brainwashed into thinking that they are the victims from the wars in the former Yugoslavia and that sending troops led by Mladic into neighbouring countries was a justified "defensive" act. Tadic and Jeremic try desperatly to balance themselves between the far right and the pro-EU camp. Because Mladic is old they pray that he will die to save themselves the embarresment of having the truth exposed by Serbia's DIRECT involvement in the wars and have it documented in history.
Pristina, stop making foolish comments. Can you verify that Tadic is personally hiding Mladic? And, Lenard, what do you propose Serbia do with RS, which is a sovereign country? Should Tadic go to Banja Luka and demand from Dodik that he surrender all power to the Muslims in Sarajevo? What is going on in your brains, folks? How about RS splits from BiH, becomes independent, and the Muslims and Croats can then live in harmony, ever after?
Mladic was kept away from the ICTFY because Serbia was affraid that if they force him to the Hague he will tell the truth and that will cost Serbia (since Belgrade was didrectly involved) dearly with reparations to Croatia and Bosnia as well as a huge apology to the people of these two nations.
However since yesterday it was revealed that Mladic's diary CONFRIMS Serbia full involvement in wars in the 1990s Tadic needs ONLY few days to send him to the Hague.
I think this is pretty obvious as Serbia since yesterday has nothing more to lose.
Yet still the most likely scenario may be to kill him (while pretending that he resisted) so that a significant (awful) chapter for Serbia may be somewhat fogy and to certain degree closed.
I do not think that there is a will to go on with the arrest of Mladic, not more than with the arrest of 100s of war criminals in Serbia. Mladic could have been arrested easily years ago and the gov. made sure to let him go.
This is a sad day for Serbians all around the world. Mr. Tadic has betrayed his people in the most vial way. By handing over Milosevic, Karadzic and now coming out with a statement that he will arrest and hand over Ratko Mladic to the Hague is an act of treachery. These men fought to defend Serbia and its people. Do you think America would ever hand over Bush or Clinton. These are two of the biggest war criminals in the world?
Don´t look to hard to please your masters Tadic or you might upset Russia. You will rather end up in a (real) tribunal yourself accompanied by Saakashwili and his gang.
Very funny comment. On top of the article ,Tadic is saying that;the arest will happen in near future, yet as you get to the bottom of the article, he says that; even if Hague Tribunal shuts down we will still look for Mladic. wow, dn't know what to believe anymore!
The whole world knows that Mladic is Serbia's last card under their sleeve. He will be caught at the right moment when the last EU contry votes for Serbia's EU membership.
I want Serbia to be free from the weight of war criminals. Serbian President Boris Tadić do not forget also the horrendously criminally established so called Srpska. It will be that millstone around Serbias neck that dose in Serbia. Make a clean Sweep of Serbias criminality and start a fresh with your neighbours for the good of everyone.
This comment is not related to this piece of news, but i want to warn.
Spanish Prime Minister (jL R Zapatero) has just changed the current Foreing Minister (Moratinos). The new one is a lady named Trinidad Jimenez. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure that this will mean that Spain is going to recognise Kosovo very very soon... Hope I am wrong.
‘He also stated that the arrest of Mladić existed as the top state priority only starting 2008 - when the current government was formed.’
The top state priority should be preserving Serbia’s territorial integrity. Kosovo always comes in a poor second or third in this current government’s list of concerns.
This is a sad day for Serbians all around the world. Mr. Tadic has betrayed his people in the most vial way. By handing over Milosevic, Karadzic and now coming out with a statement that he will arrest and hand over Ratko Mladic to the Hague is an act of treachery. These men fought to defend Serbia and its people. Do you think America would ever hand over Bush or Clinton. These are two of the biggest war criminals in the world?
‘He also stated that the arrest of Mladić existed as the top state priority only starting 2008 - when the current government was formed.’
The top state priority should be preserving Serbia’s territorial integrity. Kosovo always comes in a poor second or third in this current government’s list of concerns.
Don´t look to hard to please your masters Tadic or you might upset Russia. You will rather end up in a (real) tribunal yourself accompanied by Saakashwili and his gang.
Pristina, stop making foolish comments. Can you verify that Tadic is personally hiding Mladic? And, Lenard, what do you propose Serbia do with RS, which is a sovereign country? Should Tadic go to Banja Luka and demand from Dodik that he surrender all power to the Muslims in Sarajevo? What is going on in your brains, folks? How about RS splits from BiH, becomes independent, and the Muslims and Croats can then live in harmony, ever after?
I want Serbia to be free from the weight of war criminals. Serbian President Boris Tadić do not forget also the horrendously criminally established so called Srpska. It will be that millstone around Serbias neck that dose in Serbia. Make a clean Sweep of Serbias criminality and start a fresh with your neighbours for the good of everyone.
Mladic was kept away from the ICTFY because Serbia was affraid that if they force him to the Hague he will tell the truth and that will cost Serbia (since Belgrade was didrectly involved) dearly with reparations to Croatia and Bosnia as well as a huge apology to the people of these two nations.
However since yesterday it was revealed that Mladic's diary CONFRIMS Serbia full involvement in wars in the 1990s Tadic needs ONLY few days to send him to the Hague.
I think this is pretty obvious as Serbia since yesterday has nothing more to lose.
Yet still the most likely scenario may be to kill him (while pretending that he resisted) so that a significant (awful) chapter for Serbia may be somewhat fogy and to certain degree closed.
Very funny comment. On top of the article ,Tadic is saying that;the arest will happen in near future, yet as you get to the bottom of the article, he says that; even if Hague Tribunal shuts down we will still look for Mladic. wow, dn't know what to believe anymore!
The Serbian government has no stomach to arrest Ratko Mladic. It would be political suicide for any Serbian government to do it as it will result in accusations of treachery and Belgrade will be torn apart by rioting. The average Serbian citizen has been brainwashed into thinking that they are the victims from the wars in the former Yugoslavia and that sending troops led by Mladic into neighbouring countries was a justified "defensive" act. Tadic and Jeremic try desperatly to balance themselves between the far right and the pro-EU camp. Because Mladic is old they pray that he will die to save themselves the embarresment of having the truth exposed by Serbia's DIRECT involvement in the wars and have it documented in history.
Lenard, what do you propose Serbia do with RS, which is a sovereign country? Should Tadic go to Banja Luka and demand from Dodik that he surrender all power to the Muslims in Sarajevo? What is going on in your brains, folks? How about RS splits from BiH, becomes independent, and the Muslims and Croats can then live in harmony, ever after?
(winston, 20 October 2010 14:11) That is a good one winston Srpska a entity a sovereign country. Serbian President Boris Tadić should go to Banja Luka and tell Dodo to knock it off. That Bosnia is their country in no uncertain terms and also for Belgrade stop using subterfuge in Bosnia. Get on building a common future in Bosnia just like the Croatian presidents said and are saying. Have you heard of Democracy the Muslims do not make the majority Croatians and Serbs can out vote them. But all citizens of Bosnia will vote if things make sense and is for the good of all. Instead of going for each others throats and mutual destruction time to turn to a new different way. The way things are in a holding pattern its only matter of time that it will lead to more deadly conflict.
The whole world knows that Mladic is Serbia's last card under their sleeve. He will be caught at the right moment when the last EU contry votes for Serbia's EU membership.
I do not think that there is a will to go on with the arrest of Mladic, not more than with the arrest of 100s of war criminals in Serbia. Mladic could have been arrested easily years ago and the gov. made sure to let him go.
The milosevic trial never ended - your judgement of it therefore is not based on the outcome.
There is a political angle to all law -particularly when you have such vicious abuse of the norms as happened in Bosnia. The Hague was set up under the rules of international law to which Jugoslavia was a signatory. It gives a much fairer trail than Mladic gave to his victims.
In the case of Kosovo, my point is that Milosevic blew it politically - he (and the kind of arguement you use) ensured the loss of Kosovo. Very inept.
This comment is not related to this piece of news, but i want to warn.
Spanish Prime Minister (jL R Zapatero) has just changed the current Foreing Minister (Moratinos). The new one is a lady named Trinidad Jimenez. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure that this will mean that Spain is going to recognise Kosovo very very soon... Hope I am wrong.
Yet still the most likely scenario may be to kill him (while pretending that he resisted) so that a significant (awful) chapter for Serbia may be somewhat fogy and to certain degree closed....PRN
Is that the way the Albanians would solve this matter, PRN? Maybe Mladic could have a deadly traffic accident, while driving himself to the Hague? See, I am starting to think like an Albanian.
No, Bryan, American politicians, and military, can kill with impunity. They are never held accountable for their war crimes, because they control the international courts. Aside from a show trial of some poor PFC killing some defenseless Muslim in a fit of rage. Why aren't Thaci and Ceku keeping Haradinaj company in Dutchland? Oh, right, the US impunity thing is in force there too.
i don't necessarily believe in collective responsibility. but -- where is the outcry from the common people of serbia to send these war criminals to the hague?
that's what i thought.
thanks, danilo. chvala mnoga.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 21 October 2010 05:31)
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Where's the outcry in Sarajevo about Oric and the like facing justice?
That's what I thought.
Where's your outcry for Oric, Haradinaj, Ceku, Thaci and Gotovina to face justice?
That's what I thought.
Oh Roberto, you are so biased. Please just stop. I can't take the crap any longer.
Do posters on this site really defend these war crimes? I don't see how you can - it is a very introverted view of reality.
It would be better for everyone if he gave himself up. Including him.
I hope that Tadic has not avoided arresting Mladic for political reasons - that would be treachery against law, humanity and Serbia.
No one who arrests Mladic is a traitor. War criminals have tainted Serbia's reputation in the world. If you support war criminals then you damage Serbia.
Criminals are people who break the rules of war. Soldiers should fight with an amount of honour - that was sadly lacking in Bosnia.
I believe Kosovo should be part of Serbia - I also believe that Mladic should answer his accusers.
Serbia lost any sympathy because of the war crimes - and as a consequence lost control of Kosovo. That was an outcome of bad politics on the part of nationalists and Milosevic in particular.
Any accused General should face trial, not hide away.
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Tadic needs ONLY few days to send him to the Hague.
(PRN, 20 October 2010 14:12)
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Very funny comment. On top of the article ,Tadic is saying that;the arest will happen in near future, yet as you get to the bottom of the article, he says that; even if Hague Tribunal shuts down we will still look for Mladic. wow, dn't know what to believe anymore!
(Kosova-USA, 20 October 2010 11:00)
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You guys are just displaying your lack of intelligence. Did you forget that the words of the article are right there for everybody to see?
Here is what he said,
---
He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that he would not "make a prognosis" as to when exactly the arrest would happen, but added he hoped it would be "in the foreseeable future".
---
He stated that he doesn't know when the arrest will happen, but he HOPED it would be in the foreseeable future. So where did your "ONLY few days" come from PRN, and where did your "the arest will happen in near future" come from Kosova-USA
Serbia lost any sympathy because of the war crimes - and as a consequence lost control of Kosovo. That was an outcome of bad politics on the part of nationalists and Milosevic in particular.
Any accused General should face trial, not hide away.
If he has a case, let him make it.
(Bob, 21 October 2010 02:24)
Reality is far different than justice; the Hague Tribunal is not a court of law but a political court.
The case against Milosevic was not proved and was a farce; the Hague Tribunal still saw it fit to convict General Pavkovic, Nikola Sainovic General Lacerevic with without any proof of "war crimes" as defined by the Geneva and other war conventions.
Albanian propoganda continues to paint the hollywood pictures of mass genocide, absolutely no proof exists, picture or otherwise of a mass exodus of 1 Mil people from Kosovo, In fact, more proof exists that NATO bombed Kosovo to a pulp and is responible for war reperations to the Republic of Serbia and Kosovo citizens.
Agim, The quote I posted was from this very B92 article. It was the article that quoted Blic. If there is some other quote in this article that you are referring to, let me know what the quote is, because I can't find it.
He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that he would not "make a prognosis" as to when exactly the arrest would happen, but added he hoped it would be "in the foreseeable future".
---
He stated that he doesn't know when the arrest will happen, but he HOPED it would be in the foreseeable future. So where did your "ONLY few days" come from PRN, and where did your "the arest will happen in near future" come from Kosova-USA
(Ark I, 20 October 2010 17:58)
you are quoting daily blic, yet I am ghoing by what i am reading in b92. worlds apart , my friend.
# Mladic is being hidden by his roommates...
(Danilo, 20 October 2010 20:35)
Danilo -- you are the real mc coy! so to speak. i played the whole link/show -- biting dark humor, to say the least.
personally i don't find anything about mass murder and genocide to be funny. but we've long used satire to deal with bizarre and unpleasant realities. and what is less pleasant and more bizarre than a country that holds its mass murderers as beloved national heroes?
i don't necessarily believe in collective responsibility. but -- where is the outcry from the common people of serbia to send these war criminals to the hague?
For all those that see the ICJFY as a real court I have some news for them. A prominent jurist and former Governor General of Australia, Sir Ninian Stephens, was the first to join this newly established organization and he lasted 12 months before he realized that this was not a court of justice but a “political court. He abandoned it immediately and never mentioned it in any of his subsequent speeches. Sir Ninian is a world renowned jurist whose judgments are even studied in the US.
Mladic will die in his own bed and be remembered as a warrior for his people. Tadic will die in poverty and exile in New York and no one will remember him. Dodik will die in Banja Luka, a city in Serbia.
--That is very convenient seeing that time is a subjective thing. It could be a matter of time now or it could be a matter of time a decade later; you know like it was a decade earlier. Tadic basically made a word salad that says nothing.
I want Serbia to be free from the weight of war criminals. Serbian President Boris Tadić do not forget also the horrendously criminally established so called Srpska. It will be that millstone around Serbias neck that dose in Serbia. Make a clean Sweep of Serbias criminality and start a fresh with your neighbours for the good of everyone.
This is a sad day for Serbians all around the world. Mr. Tadic has betrayed his people in the most vial way. By handing over Milosevic, Karadzic and now coming out with a statement that he will arrest and hand over Ratko Mladic to the Hague is an act of treachery. These men fought to defend Serbia and its people. Do you think America would ever hand over Bush or Clinton. These are two of the biggest war criminals in the world?
‘He also stated that the arrest of Mladić existed as the top state priority only starting 2008 - when the current government was formed.’
The top state priority should be preserving Serbia’s territorial integrity. Kosovo always comes in a poor second or third in this current government’s list of concerns.
Very funny comment. On top of the article ,Tadic is saying that;the arest will happen in near future, yet as you get to the bottom of the article, he says that; even if Hague Tribunal shuts down we will still look for Mladic. wow, dn't know what to believe anymore!
Don´t look to hard to please your masters Tadic or you might upset Russia. You will rather end up in a (real) tribunal yourself accompanied by Saakashwili and his gang.
Mladic was kept away from the ICTFY because Serbia was affraid that if they force him to the Hague he will tell the truth and that will cost Serbia (since Belgrade was didrectly involved) dearly with reparations to Croatia and Bosnia as well as a huge apology to the people of these two nations.
However since yesterday it was revealed that Mladic's diary CONFRIMS Serbia full involvement in wars in the 1990s Tadic needs ONLY few days to send him to the Hague.
I think this is pretty obvious as Serbia since yesterday has nothing more to lose.
Yet still the most likely scenario may be to kill him (while pretending that he resisted) so that a significant (awful) chapter for Serbia may be somewhat fogy and to certain degree closed.
The whole world knows that Mladic is Serbia's last card under their sleeve. He will be caught at the right moment when the last EU contry votes for Serbia's EU membership.
Pristina, stop making foolish comments. Can you verify that Tadic is personally hiding Mladic? And, Lenard, what do you propose Serbia do with RS, which is a sovereign country? Should Tadic go to Banja Luka and demand from Dodik that he surrender all power to the Muslims in Sarajevo? What is going on in your brains, folks? How about RS splits from BiH, becomes independent, and the Muslims and Croats can then live in harmony, ever after?
No, Bryan, American politicians, and military, can kill with impunity. They are never held accountable for their war crimes, because they control the international courts. Aside from a show trial of some poor PFC killing some defenseless Muslim in a fit of rage. Why aren't Thaci and Ceku keeping Haradinaj company in Dutchland? Oh, right, the US impunity thing is in force there too.
I do not think that there is a will to go on with the arrest of Mladic, not more than with the arrest of 100s of war criminals in Serbia. Mladic could have been arrested easily years ago and the gov. made sure to let him go.
# Mladic is being hidden by his roommates...
(Danilo, 20 October 2010 20:35)
Danilo -- you are the real mc coy! so to speak. i played the whole link/show -- biting dark humor, to say the least.
personally i don't find anything about mass murder and genocide to be funny. but we've long used satire to deal with bizarre and unpleasant realities. and what is less pleasant and more bizarre than a country that holds its mass murderers as beloved national heroes?
i don't necessarily believe in collective responsibility. but -- where is the outcry from the common people of serbia to send these war criminals to the hague?
Yet still the most likely scenario may be to kill him (while pretending that he resisted) so that a significant (awful) chapter for Serbia may be somewhat fogy and to certain degree closed....PRN
Is that the way the Albanians would solve this matter, PRN? Maybe Mladic could have a deadly traffic accident, while driving himself to the Hague? See, I am starting to think like an Albanian.
The Serbian government has no stomach to arrest Ratko Mladic. It would be political suicide for any Serbian government to do it as it will result in accusations of treachery and Belgrade will be torn apart by rioting. The average Serbian citizen has been brainwashed into thinking that they are the victims from the wars in the former Yugoslavia and that sending troops led by Mladic into neighbouring countries was a justified "defensive" act. Tadic and Jeremic try desperatly to balance themselves between the far right and the pro-EU camp. Because Mladic is old they pray that he will die to save themselves the embarresment of having the truth exposed by Serbia's DIRECT involvement in the wars and have it documented in history.
--That is very convenient seeing that time is a subjective thing. It could be a matter of time now or it could be a matter of time a decade later; you know like it was a decade earlier. Tadic basically made a word salad that says nothing.
Serbia lost any sympathy because of the war crimes - and as a consequence lost control of Kosovo. That was an outcome of bad politics on the part of nationalists and Milosevic in particular.
Any accused General should face trial, not hide away.
If he has a case, let him make it.
(Bob, 21 October 2010 02:24)
Reality is far different than justice; the Hague Tribunal is not a court of law but a political court.
The case against Milosevic was not proved and was a farce; the Hague Tribunal still saw it fit to convict General Pavkovic, Nikola Sainovic General Lacerevic with without any proof of "war crimes" as defined by the Geneva and other war conventions.
Albanian propoganda continues to paint the hollywood pictures of mass genocide, absolutely no proof exists, picture or otherwise of a mass exodus of 1 Mil people from Kosovo, In fact, more proof exists that NATO bombed Kosovo to a pulp and is responible for war reperations to the Republic of Serbia and Kosovo citizens.
Lenard, what do you propose Serbia do with RS, which is a sovereign country? Should Tadic go to Banja Luka and demand from Dodik that he surrender all power to the Muslims in Sarajevo? What is going on in your brains, folks? How about RS splits from BiH, becomes independent, and the Muslims and Croats can then live in harmony, ever after?
(winston, 20 October 2010 14:11) That is a good one winston Srpska a entity a sovereign country. Serbian President Boris Tadić should go to Banja Luka and tell Dodo to knock it off. That Bosnia is their country in no uncertain terms and also for Belgrade stop using subterfuge in Bosnia. Get on building a common future in Bosnia just like the Croatian presidents said and are saying. Have you heard of Democracy the Muslims do not make the majority Croatians and Serbs can out vote them. But all citizens of Bosnia will vote if things make sense and is for the good of all. Instead of going for each others throats and mutual destruction time to turn to a new different way. The way things are in a holding pattern its only matter of time that it will lead to more deadly conflict.
This comment is not related to this piece of news, but i want to warn.
Spanish Prime Minister (jL R Zapatero) has just changed the current Foreing Minister (Moratinos). The new one is a lady named Trinidad Jimenez. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure that this will mean that Spain is going to recognise Kosovo very very soon... Hope I am wrong.
Do posters on this site really defend these war crimes? I don't see how you can - it is a very introverted view of reality.
It would be better for everyone if he gave himself up. Including him.
I hope that Tadic has not avoided arresting Mladic for political reasons - that would be treachery against law, humanity and Serbia.
No one who arrests Mladic is a traitor. War criminals have tainted Serbia's reputation in the world. If you support war criminals then you damage Serbia.
Criminals are people who break the rules of war. Soldiers should fight with an amount of honour - that was sadly lacking in Bosnia.
I believe Kosovo should be part of Serbia - I also believe that Mladic should answer his accusers.
Serbia lost any sympathy because of the war crimes - and as a consequence lost control of Kosovo. That was an outcome of bad politics on the part of nationalists and Milosevic in particular.
Any accused General should face trial, not hide away.
---
Tadic needs ONLY few days to send him to the Hague.
(PRN, 20 October 2010 14:12)
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Very funny comment. On top of the article ,Tadic is saying that;the arest will happen in near future, yet as you get to the bottom of the article, he says that; even if Hague Tribunal shuts down we will still look for Mladic. wow, dn't know what to believe anymore!
(Kosova-USA, 20 October 2010 11:00)
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You guys are just displaying your lack of intelligence. Did you forget that the words of the article are right there for everybody to see?
Here is what he said,
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He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that he would not "make a prognosis" as to when exactly the arrest would happen, but added he hoped it would be "in the foreseeable future".
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He stated that he doesn't know when the arrest will happen, but he HOPED it would be in the foreseeable future. So where did your "ONLY few days" come from PRN, and where did your "the arest will happen in near future" come from Kosova-USA
i don't necessarily believe in collective responsibility. but -- where is the outcry from the common people of serbia to send these war criminals to the hague?
that's what i thought.
thanks, danilo. chvala mnoga.
roberto
frisco
(roberto, 21 October 2010 05:31)
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Where's the outcry in Sarajevo about Oric and the like facing justice?
That's what I thought.
Where's your outcry for Oric, Haradinaj, Ceku, Thaci and Gotovina to face justice?
That's what I thought.
Oh Roberto, you are so biased. Please just stop. I can't take the crap any longer.
The milosevic trial never ended - your judgement of it therefore is not based on the outcome.
There is a political angle to all law -particularly when you have such vicious abuse of the norms as happened in Bosnia. The Hague was set up under the rules of international law to which Jugoslavia was a signatory. It gives a much fairer trail than Mladic gave to his victims.
In the case of Kosovo, my point is that Milosevic blew it politically - he (and the kind of arguement you use) ensured the loss of Kosovo. Very inept.
He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that he would not "make a prognosis" as to when exactly the arrest would happen, but added he hoped it would be "in the foreseeable future".
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He stated that he doesn't know when the arrest will happen, but he HOPED it would be in the foreseeable future. So where did your "ONLY few days" come from PRN, and where did your "the arest will happen in near future" come from Kosova-USA
(Ark I, 20 October 2010 17:58)
you are quoting daily blic, yet I am ghoing by what i am reading in b92. worlds apart , my friend.
For all those that see the ICJFY as a real court I have some news for them. A prominent jurist and former Governor General of Australia, Sir Ninian Stephens, was the first to join this newly established organization and he lasted 12 months before he realized that this was not a court of justice but a “political court. He abandoned it immediately and never mentioned it in any of his subsequent speeches. Sir Ninian is a world renowned jurist whose judgments are even studied in the US.
Mladic will die in his own bed and be remembered as a warrior for his people. Tadic will die in poverty and exile in New York and no one will remember him. Dodik will die in Banja Luka, a city in Serbia.
Agim, The quote I posted was from this very B92 article. It was the article that quoted Blic. If there is some other quote in this article that you are referring to, let me know what the quote is, because I can't find it.
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