Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2010 18:41)
So says you? Oh the irony! You never post anything to show you have the slightest understanding of these geopolitical scenarios, instead opting to write nonsense that is completely wrong or patently inflammatory in an an attempt to start an argument.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
(Luigi, 14 October 2010 16:32)
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2010 18:41)
Both of you need to do some research. Firstly financing South stream comes from the Russians borrowing from overseas banks. However, if the west destroys the pipeline the debt does not vanish – it is still a debt - so that is why the Ruskies want to establish a base in RS to protect their assists.
(DimTuc, 14 October 2010 18:48)
How are the Bosniaks going to “take their territory back”? NATO did not intervene; NATO came after the DAYTON ACCORD was signed and Serbs were withdrawing to the agreed lines. NATO was trying to make it relevant by carrying out bombing raids, but beyond agreed lines. Get your facts right.
The Bosniaks held 20% of territory and you recon they were on a roll; remember the Sarajevo offensive; even the US told them not to launch one but 3000 dead later withdrew back to Sarajevo.
As far as Posava is concerned I believe that Stipe Mesic is still getting fit and Croatia has not withdrawn their 600 professional army for Afghanistan. I can assure you that if they could they definitely would take Posavina back.
I would not rely on US support because they are even bigger Islamophobes than anyone else; look at the civilian toll in Afghanistan, but you keep on dreaming.
We hold 50% of Bosnia and no one will take that away. However, I like to see the Bosniaks try
@dimtruc
You don't get the point, all people in Bosnia are the same with religious differences.
1. Because of the Ottoman Turks.
2. 19th century Vatican influence.
Bosnia was always Serbian land and its people are Serbs who think they are different.
P.S. The best option would have been no war and Yu stayed as 1 country or Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia/Mne as 1 country.
unfortunately its separate country's , everyone is different and we have Bosnia in 2 halves. Stupid politics!
Luigi, you dont understand: the S. Stream is only a pretext for military presence, which amounts to a psychological advantage over friend & enemy, hence why the US has its military world-wide. Read On War by Clausewitz, it's still studied in military academies worldwide.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
(Luigi, 14 October 2010 16:32)
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
"Russia believes it is necessary to end the mandate of international high representative"
Good. That way there'll be noone to stop Bosnia taking back its territory, which it was so rudely stopped from doing by NATO intervention in 1995 - interventiuon right at the point that the Bosnians were finally on the offensive for the first time in the war - and the imposition of the infamous Dayton accord giving half of Bosnia to the Serb 30% of the population, recognsing ethnic cleansing.
Bosnia should begin with the Posavina corridor (nearly all Croat and Bosniak pre-war), cutting off the Banja Luka region from Serbia, and then retake most of East Bosnia/Drina Valley (overwhelmingly Bosniak pre-war). Especially Srebrenica, of course. The only part of current RS that would remain bordering Serbia would be East Herzegovina, which along with the greater Banja Luka region would constitute RS, about 25-30% of Bosnia, not 50%.
East Herzegovina could then join Serbia in exchange for Sanzak. Banja Luka could then make its own decision whether it wanted to follow suit, being without border with Serbia, or whether it wanted to do the more sensible thing and remain as a reduced RS in a federaton with their Bosnian neighbours.
If the Croat nationalists get uppity, tell them OK you can have West Herzegovina, absolutely nomore than 10% of Bosnia.
With 60-65% of Bosnia plus Sanzak, I imagine the Bosniaks would be satisfied to allow these crazed Serb and Croat secessionists and Islamophobes go away somewhere to the "fatherland", that primitive concept that brought so much interesting "culture" (Mladic, Karadzic, Seselj, Arkan etc) to the Balkans last decade.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
"Russia believes it is necessary to end the mandate of international high representative"
Good. That way there'll be noone to stop Bosnia taking back its territory, which it was so rudely stopped from doing by NATO intervention in 1995 - interventiuon right at the point that the Bosnians were finally on the offensive for the first time in the war - and the imposition of the infamous Dayton accord giving half of Bosnia to the Serb 30% of the population, recognsing ethnic cleansing.
Bosnia should begin with the Posavina corridor (nearly all Croat and Bosniak pre-war), cutting off the Banja Luka region from Serbia, and then retake most of East Bosnia/Drina Valley (overwhelmingly Bosniak pre-war). Especially Srebrenica, of course. The only part of current RS that would remain bordering Serbia would be East Herzegovina, which along with the greater Banja Luka region would constitute RS, about 25-30% of Bosnia, not 50%.
East Herzegovina could then join Serbia in exchange for Sanzak. Banja Luka could then make its own decision whether it wanted to follow suit, being without border with Serbia, or whether it wanted to do the more sensible thing and remain as a reduced RS in a federaton with their Bosnian neighbours.
If the Croat nationalists get uppity, tell them OK you can have West Herzegovina, absolutely nomore than 10% of Bosnia.
With 60-65% of Bosnia plus Sanzak, I imagine the Bosniaks would be satisfied to allow these crazed Serb and Croat secessionists and Islamophobes go away somewhere to the "fatherland", that primitive concept that brought so much interesting "culture" (Mladic, Karadzic, Seselj, Arkan etc) to the Balkans last decade.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
(Luigi, 14 October 2010 16:32)
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
(Luigi, 14 October 2010 16:32)
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2010 18:41)
Both of you need to do some research. Firstly financing South stream comes from the Russians borrowing from overseas banks. However, if the west destroys the pipeline the debt does not vanish – it is still a debt - so that is why the Ruskies want to establish a base in RS to protect their assists.
(DimTuc, 14 October 2010 18:48)
How are the Bosniaks going to “take their territory back”? NATO did not intervene; NATO came after the DAYTON ACCORD was signed and Serbs were withdrawing to the agreed lines. NATO was trying to make it relevant by carrying out bombing raids, but beyond agreed lines. Get your facts right.
The Bosniaks held 20% of territory and you recon they were on a roll; remember the Sarajevo offensive; even the US told them not to launch one but 3000 dead later withdrew back to Sarajevo.
As far as Posava is concerned I believe that Stipe Mesic is still getting fit and Croatia has not withdrawn their 600 professional army for Afghanistan. I can assure you that if they could they definitely would take Posavina back.
I would not rely on US support because they are even bigger Islamophobes than anyone else; look at the civilian toll in Afghanistan, but you keep on dreaming.
We hold 50% of Bosnia and no one will take that away. However, I like to see the Bosniaks try
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
Luigi, you dont understand: the S. Stream is only a pretext for military presence, which amounts to a psychological advantage over friend & enemy, hence why the US has its military world-wide. Read On War by Clausewitz, it's still studied in military academies worldwide.
@dimtruc
You don't get the point, all people in Bosnia are the same with religious differences.
1. Because of the Ottoman Turks.
2. 19th century Vatican influence.
Bosnia was always Serbian land and its people are Serbs who think they are different.
P.S. The best option would have been no war and Yu stayed as 1 country or Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia/Mne as 1 country.
unfortunately its separate country's , everyone is different and we have Bosnia in 2 halves. Stupid politics!
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2010 18:41)
So says you? Oh the irony! You never post anything to show you have the slightest understanding of these geopolitical scenarios, instead opting to write nonsense that is completely wrong or patently inflammatory in an an attempt to start an argument.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
(Luigi, 14 October 2010 16:32)
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
"Russia believes it is necessary to end the mandate of international high representative"
Good. That way there'll be noone to stop Bosnia taking back its territory, which it was so rudely stopped from doing by NATO intervention in 1995 - interventiuon right at the point that the Bosnians were finally on the offensive for the first time in the war - and the imposition of the infamous Dayton accord giving half of Bosnia to the Serb 30% of the population, recognsing ethnic cleansing.
Bosnia should begin with the Posavina corridor (nearly all Croat and Bosniak pre-war), cutting off the Banja Luka region from Serbia, and then retake most of East Bosnia/Drina Valley (overwhelmingly Bosniak pre-war). Especially Srebrenica, of course. The only part of current RS that would remain bordering Serbia would be East Herzegovina, which along with the greater Banja Luka region would constitute RS, about 25-30% of Bosnia, not 50%.
East Herzegovina could then join Serbia in exchange for Sanzak. Banja Luka could then make its own decision whether it wanted to follow suit, being without border with Serbia, or whether it wanted to do the more sensible thing and remain as a reduced RS in a federaton with their Bosnian neighbours.
If the Croat nationalists get uppity, tell them OK you can have West Herzegovina, absolutely nomore than 10% of Bosnia.
With 60-65% of Bosnia plus Sanzak, I imagine the Bosniaks would be satisfied to allow these crazed Serb and Croat secessionists and Islamophobes go away somewhere to the "fatherland", that primitive concept that brought so much interesting "culture" (Mladic, Karadzic, Seselj, Arkan etc) to the Balkans last decade.
@dimtruc
You don't get the point, all people in Bosnia are the same with religious differences.
1. Because of the Ottoman Turks.
2. 19th century Vatican influence.
Bosnia was always Serbian land and its people are Serbs who think they are different.
P.S. The best option would have been no war and Yu stayed as 1 country or Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia/Mne as 1 country.
unfortunately its separate country's , everyone is different and we have Bosnia in 2 halves. Stupid politics!
Luigi, you dont understand: the S. Stream is only a pretext for military presence, which amounts to a psychological advantage over friend & enemy, hence why the US has its military world-wide. Read On War by Clausewitz, it's still studied in military academies worldwide.
Sometimes some comment here are above the decency..Protect South Stream ? but do you know with whom is patner Gazprom in all this project? do you know where come the banks that will lend the money ?
(Luigi, 14 October 2010 16:32)
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2010 18:41)
Both of you need to do some research. Firstly financing South stream comes from the Russians borrowing from overseas banks. However, if the west destroys the pipeline the debt does not vanish – it is still a debt - so that is why the Ruskies want to establish a base in RS to protect their assists.
(DimTuc, 14 October 2010 18:48)
How are the Bosniaks going to “take their territory back”? NATO did not intervene; NATO came after the DAYTON ACCORD was signed and Serbs were withdrawing to the agreed lines. NATO was trying to make it relevant by carrying out bombing raids, but beyond agreed lines. Get your facts right.
The Bosniaks held 20% of territory and you recon they were on a roll; remember the Sarajevo offensive; even the US told them not to launch one but 3000 dead later withdrew back to Sarajevo.
As far as Posava is concerned I believe that Stipe Mesic is still getting fit and Croatia has not withdrawn their 600 professional army for Afghanistan. I can assure you that if they could they definitely would take Posavina back.
I would not rely on US support because they are even bigger Islamophobes than anyone else; look at the civilian toll in Afghanistan, but you keep on dreaming.
We hold 50% of Bosnia and no one will take that away. However, I like to see the Bosniaks try
Absolutally Luigi, but Hajduke forgot to do some reaserch before he posted his own coment.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2010 18:41)
So says you? Oh the irony! You never post anything to show you have the slightest understanding of these geopolitical scenarios, instead opting to write nonsense that is completely wrong or patently inflammatory in an an attempt to start an argument.
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