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Tuesday, 12.10.2010.

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"Kosovo talks maybe in March 2011"

The Belgrade-Priština dialogue will begin only after the new Kosovo government takes office after the elections, possibly in late March of next year.

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benzo

pre 13 godina

you are kidding youself if you think k albanians will talk anytime soon. they know status quo is best for now.. excuse after excuse is what we'll get over next year..oh also a lotta games trying to get serbia to react..in hopes of more excuses!!

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Wow!

viewing a film that does not have to debate to make. you know what I can show you thousands of images of massacres children, older people simply civilians. I do not sympathize with the movie that you showed. but do not show a movie and then think that it will conjure up what the Albanians did.
(Boki, 14 October 2010 13:35) "

Why don't you stop boasting for once and put your money where your mouth is?

You claimed to have many links that disproved Kate's points. As it turned out, you had zero. Zilch.

And now you claimed to have "thousands of images". Okay, lets see them! Show them instead of just boasting empty talks!

Boki

pre 13 godina

Your gays can move about freely without fear in Kosovo? Then I must say they far better off than the K-Serbs! [link]
(lowe, 14 October 2010 12:09)

Wow!

viewing a film that does not have to debate to make. you know what I can show you thousands of images of massacres children, older people simply civilians. I do not sympathize with the movie that you showed. but do not show a movie and then think that it will conjure up what the Albanians did.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens."

Your gays can move about freely without fear in Kosovo? Then I must say they far better off than the K-Serbs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P423409BrqU

boki

pre 13 godina

Only someone who has never been to Kosovo would say such a thing. There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens.
(JohnnyC, 14 October 2010 08:14)

That´s Right!

JohnnyC

pre 13 godina

"But wait, homosexuality is non-existence in Muslim countries (not that Kosovo is a country) and anybody who would dare to show up in that fairy tale parade would for sure not live the next day."

Only someone who has never been to Kosovo would say such a thing. There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"kate, the three articles which I Found believe are the three articles you mentioned. 2 articles from 2007 and from 2009 came up with something that is relevant. and you lowe I can not produce other articles than the three articals your journalist raised.
(Boki, 13 October 2010 16:15) "

I thought you criticized Kate for those 3 articles? And yet you are using them now yourself????

Is this the Twilight Zone or what?

Boki

pre 13 godina

kate, the three articles which I Found believe are the three articles you mentioned. 2 articles from 2007 and from 2009 came up with something that is relevant. and you lowe I can not produce other articles than the three articals your journalist raised.

kate

pre 13 godina

"I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay."

Such liberal attitudes - it's like visiting cyber Soho! Are you sure you meant 'feel'?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I don't have to go and search for sources Buddy, If i go and search all i find is 3 articals to rest on, like your buddys did
(Boki, 13 October 2010 13:32):"

So you are really in no position to criticize Kate for having "only" 3 sources since you are not able to produce more than 3 yourself.

Why don't you post the links to your 3 sources and let us decide how credible they are?

Boki

pre 13 godina

I asked you whether you have any reliable source to back your statement that gays are welcomed in Kosovo. I didn't ask for your assurance that they are welcomed there.

And you don't be a journalist to be able to quote sources, assuming you have any to begin with. Which I seriously doubt.
(lowe, 13 October 2010 12:13)

I don't have to go and search for sources Buddy, If i go and search all i find is 3 articals to rest on, like your buddys did

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay. and They Live In The Middle of Prishtina and the Other Cities in Kosovo! and I have not heard that they have been mistreated in any way. and what is more serious is that it will now be debating gay inncidenten in Belgrade in the government so it certain that one can not organize gay parade in Belgrade. think about it instead of getting me to play "Mr. Journalist"
(Boki, 13 October 2010 03:12) "

I asked you whether you have any reliable source to back your statement that gays are welcomed in Kosovo. I didn't ask for your assurance that they are welcomed there.

And you don't be a journalist to be able to quote sources, assuming you have any to begin with. Which I seriously doubt.

Boki

pre 13 godina

You embarrassed yourself, Boki. Kate had some links to back her post, but you have just your own words, you lose. Anyway, we all know Albanians are big-time homophobes, and actually beat gays in Albanian Kosovo society, we have seen links to news stories here tonight to prove that. Albanians, you have zero rights to criticize the Serbs, on any issue. Clean yourselves up first, before you try and dirty others, Albos. That will never happen.
(papajohn, 13 October 2010 01:31)

You are ashamed of what happened in Belgrade's gay parade and is now trying to play Larry King by saying a few Albanians have been assaulted.

Boki

pre 13 godina

In my opinion, 3 articles as evidence more than proves her point unless it can be shown that her links are unreliable. How many do you want? 100? 1000? I noted that you yourself have not provided even 1 link to support your point that Kosovo welcomes gays -- do you have any by the way?
(lowe, 13 October 2010 01:30)


I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay. and They Live In The Middle of Prishtina and the Other Cities in Kosovo! and I have not heard that they have been mistreated in any way. and what is more serious is that it will now be debating gay inncidenten in Belgrade in the government so it certain that one can not organize gay parade in Belgrade. think about it instead of getting me to play "Mr. Journalist"

Boki

pre 13 godina

"prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92." (boki)

-- Most rational people would conclude she did. People seeking asylum and receiving death threats for being gay in Kosovo? Pretty straightforward if you ask me. So unless attitudes in Kosovo have drastically changed in the last 2 - 3 years, congratulations you people are homophobic. Just like everyone else.
(Mike, 13 October 2010 01:35)


how can you say that Albanians are against gay people? all you have is three articles to rest on buddy!

5 000 -10 000 Serbian Nationalists, skin heads, assorted ruffians and other riff raff was against the parade
What is the out come of this?
Over 80 police men injured!!

Kosovo never had Any Gay parade in kosovo. And if they had it's not going to end like this one in Belgrad !!

I rest on news that come from Live Tv picture's
You rest on 3 articals.

C'MON SON

papajohn

pre 13 godina

You embarrassed yourself, Boki. Kate had some links to back her post, but you have just your own words, you lose. Anyway, we all know Albanians are big-time homophobes, and actually beat gays in Albanian Kosovo society, we have seen links to news stories here tonight to prove that. Albanians, you have zero rights to criticize the Serbs, on any issue. Clean yourselves up first, before you try and dirty others, Albos. That will never happen.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Please Albanians, before you hit the send button next time you want to trash something Serbian, examine what is going on in your own backward society. The Belgrade government just supported a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade, now it's Pristina's turn."
(winston, 12 October 2010 18:50)

What do you want to say? That's there a similar amount of homophobic violent rioters amongst Serbs and Albanians, but that at least the Serbian government supports human minority rights?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92. you brought up two articles from 2007. I stand by what I say and that is that people who are gay may have better security in Kosovo if they have a parade. in Belgrade, it was almost civil war. so my journalist prove everything! 3 articles? you embarrass yourself buddy
(Boki, 12 October 2010 23:48)
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She just proved it by posting links.
When is Pristina going to host it?

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Time is on our side, all we have to do is wait out the thugs in Belgrade...sooner or later they're all going out." (KOSO)

-- Really? Time is on your side? I don't recall Pristina being all that keen in these upcoming talks as Belgrade seems. I also don't recall Pristina being flexible on negotiations. All we hear is what they don't want to talk about.

And I also don't recall the Belgrade government in a state of collapse. Pristina's government on the other hand seems to be in need of buying time since most EU powers are in favor of starting these talks immediately.

"prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92." (boki)

-- Most rational people would conclude she did. People seeking asylum and receiving death threats for being gay in Kosovo? Pretty straightforward if you ask me. So unless attitudes in Kosovo have drastically changed in the last 2 - 3 years, congratulations you people are homophobic. Just like everyone else.

Top

pre 13 godina

Is there agreement on the size and shape of the negotiating table?
(JohnBoy, 12 October 2010 17:49)

Not to forget the agreement on the name of the countries written on the name signs of the participants ;-)

lowe

pre 13 godina

In my opinion, 3 articles as evidence more than proves her point unless it can be shown that her links are unreliable. How many do you want? 100? 1000? I noted that you yourself have not provided even 1 link to support your point that Kosovo welcomes gays -- do you have any by the way?

Boki

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

"Gay man from Kosovo granted political asylum in the U.S." ( [link] ), "Gay, Lesbian Youth Leaders Under Serious Death Threats" ( [link] ), "The Secret Life of Kosovo’s Gay Community" ( [link] ) ... the list is endless.

People in glass houses...
(kate, 12 October 2010 16:38)

prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92. you brought up two articles from 2007. I stand by what I say and that is that people who are gay may have better security in Kosovo if they have a parade. in Belgrade, it was almost civil war. so my journalist prove everything! 3 articles? you embarrass yourself buddy

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Talks MAYBE in March...maybe not. Time is on our side, all we have to do is wait out the thugs in Belgrade...sooner or later they're all going out.

winston

pre 13 godina

Good post, Kate. Your post should silence the Albanian homophobes, that only know to point fingers at the Serbs, but never, never, look at themselves. Please Albanians, before you hit the send button next time you want to trash something Serbian, examine what is going on in your own backward society. The Belgrade government just supported a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade, now it's Pristina's turn. Maybe goddess klintonka will propose that idea. I would to see the Snake's face on that idea.

winston

pre 13 godina

Yes, JohnBoy, the table top will be a replica of the Euro - as both the Serb politicians, and Albanian politicians, only see this as incentive. Any news on the date of that first Gay Pride parade in Pristina? How do you think the citizens of Albanian Kosovo will react to that?

miri

pre 13 godina

They will be told what to say by the EU/US, so why this election BS?
(winston, 12 October 2010 15:14)

As long as our interests are in line with theirs (US, EU) we don't have a problem with that. What is your problem though? Why do you care who tell what to who? How is that changing the outcome of the reality?

kate

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

"Gay man from Kosovo granted political asylum in the U.S." ( http://www.metroweekly.com/news/?ak=2706 ), "Gay, Lesbian Youth Leaders Under Serious Death Threats" ( http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/07/May/2403.htm ), "The Secret Life of Kosovo’s Gay Community" ( http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2009/09/secret-life-of-kosovos-gay-community.html ) ... the list is endless.

People in glass houses...

Milan

pre 13 godina

"highduke:
We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

Boki,

I dare the thug institutions in Pristina to organize a gay parade. But wait, homosexuality is non-existence in Muslim countries (not that Kosovo is a country) and anybody who would dare to show up in that fairy tale parade would for sure not live the next day. Do not criticize other people's dirty laundry while your own laundry is even dirtier.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Boki, dont be shocked if pro-Kurti elements in the temp. inst. that haven't yet been removed try to organize a Gay parade in a last-ditch effort to gain support. It's a long shot but they're getting desperate. I agree that homosexuality would be warmly accepted among Albanians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Pederasty

winston

pre 13 godina

Rasnici said "the Albanians will announce the exact start date of the talks, after we check with Clintonka", now that's an independent country for you. Waiting to start these talks till the Albanians elect new leaders, there are few to choose in Kosovo, by the way, is a delay tactic, because the Albanians have no one of their own to represent them. They will be told what to say by the EU/US, so why this election BS?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

well, the way you guys behaved in March 2004 could have fooled me! And you did much more than just threw rocks then!

wtf

pre 13 godina

Send in the clowns!

A half-naked, rubber-dressed Tadic should walk in front of a hugh gay-parade marching to Pristina, im sure NED & Soros will provide whatever they need and the albanians will shower them with flowers..

highduke

pre 13 godina

Anti-negotiation anti-EULEX Albin Kurti would do well in Albanian elections in KiM considering the majority support he has down there. These talks will either lead to elements within the temp. inst. working with Serbia after re-integration to avoid endimtp t like Haradinaj or even worse OR they will only stall an inevitable Somalia-type scenario against KFOR led by Kurti with 1 000 000 angry Albanians

Milan

pre 13 godina

"highduke:
We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

Boki,

I dare the thug institutions in Pristina to organize a gay parade. But wait, homosexuality is non-existence in Muslim countries (not that Kosovo is a country) and anybody who would dare to show up in that fairy tale parade would for sure not live the next day. Do not criticize other people's dirty laundry while your own laundry is even dirtier.

wtf

pre 13 godina

Send in the clowns!

A half-naked, rubber-dressed Tadic should walk in front of a hugh gay-parade marching to Pristina, im sure NED & Soros will provide whatever they need and the albanians will shower them with flowers..

highduke

pre 13 godina

Anti-negotiation anti-EULEX Albin Kurti would do well in Albanian elections in KiM considering the majority support he has down there. These talks will either lead to elements within the temp. inst. working with Serbia after re-integration to avoid endimtp t like Haradinaj or even worse OR they will only stall an inevitable Somalia-type scenario against KFOR led by Kurti with 1 000 000 angry Albanians

lowe

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

well, the way you guys behaved in March 2004 could have fooled me! And you did much more than just threw rocks then!

highduke

pre 13 godina

Boki, dont be shocked if pro-Kurti elements in the temp. inst. that haven't yet been removed try to organize a Gay parade in a last-ditch effort to gain support. It's a long shot but they're getting desperate. I agree that homosexuality would be warmly accepted among Albanians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Pederasty

kate

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

"Gay man from Kosovo granted political asylum in the U.S." ( http://www.metroweekly.com/news/?ak=2706 ), "Gay, Lesbian Youth Leaders Under Serious Death Threats" ( http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/07/May/2403.htm ), "The Secret Life of Kosovo’s Gay Community" ( http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2009/09/secret-life-of-kosovos-gay-community.html ) ... the list is endless.

People in glass houses...

winston

pre 13 godina

Rasnici said "the Albanians will announce the exact start date of the talks, after we check with Clintonka", now that's an independent country for you. Waiting to start these talks till the Albanians elect new leaders, there are few to choose in Kosovo, by the way, is a delay tactic, because the Albanians have no one of their own to represent them. They will be told what to say by the EU/US, so why this election BS?

winston

pre 13 godina

Good post, Kate. Your post should silence the Albanian homophobes, that only know to point fingers at the Serbs, but never, never, look at themselves. Please Albanians, before you hit the send button next time you want to trash something Serbian, examine what is going on in your own backward society. The Belgrade government just supported a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade, now it's Pristina's turn. Maybe goddess klintonka will propose that idea. I would to see the Snake's face on that idea.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92. you brought up two articles from 2007. I stand by what I say and that is that people who are gay may have better security in Kosovo if they have a parade. in Belgrade, it was almost civil war. so my journalist prove everything! 3 articles? you embarrass yourself buddy
(Boki, 12 October 2010 23:48)
===================
She just proved it by posting links.
When is Pristina going to host it?

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Time is on our side, all we have to do is wait out the thugs in Belgrade...sooner or later they're all going out." (KOSO)

-- Really? Time is on your side? I don't recall Pristina being all that keen in these upcoming talks as Belgrade seems. I also don't recall Pristina being flexible on negotiations. All we hear is what they don't want to talk about.

And I also don't recall the Belgrade government in a state of collapse. Pristina's government on the other hand seems to be in need of buying time since most EU powers are in favor of starting these talks immediately.

"prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92." (boki)

-- Most rational people would conclude she did. People seeking asylum and receiving death threats for being gay in Kosovo? Pretty straightforward if you ask me. So unless attitudes in Kosovo have drastically changed in the last 2 - 3 years, congratulations you people are homophobic. Just like everyone else.

papajohn

pre 13 godina

You embarrassed yourself, Boki. Kate had some links to back her post, but you have just your own words, you lose. Anyway, we all know Albanians are big-time homophobes, and actually beat gays in Albanian Kosovo society, we have seen links to news stories here tonight to prove that. Albanians, you have zero rights to criticize the Serbs, on any issue. Clean yourselves up first, before you try and dirty others, Albos. That will never happen.

lowe

pre 13 godina

In my opinion, 3 articles as evidence more than proves her point unless it can be shown that her links are unreliable. How many do you want? 100? 1000? I noted that you yourself have not provided even 1 link to support your point that Kosovo welcomes gays -- do you have any by the way?

winston

pre 13 godina

Yes, JohnBoy, the table top will be a replica of the Euro - as both the Serb politicians, and Albanian politicians, only see this as incentive. Any news on the date of that first Gay Pride parade in Pristina? How do you think the citizens of Albanian Kosovo will react to that?

miri

pre 13 godina

They will be told what to say by the EU/US, so why this election BS?
(winston, 12 October 2010 15:14)

As long as our interests are in line with theirs (US, EU) we don't have a problem with that. What is your problem though? Why do you care who tell what to who? How is that changing the outcome of the reality?

Top

pre 13 godina

"Please Albanians, before you hit the send button next time you want to trash something Serbian, examine what is going on in your own backward society. The Belgrade government just supported a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade, now it's Pristina's turn."
(winston, 12 October 2010 18:50)

What do you want to say? That's there a similar amount of homophobic violent rioters amongst Serbs and Albanians, but that at least the Serbian government supports human minority rights?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay. and They Live In The Middle of Prishtina and the Other Cities in Kosovo! and I have not heard that they have been mistreated in any way. and what is more serious is that it will now be debating gay inncidenten in Belgrade in the government so it certain that one can not organize gay parade in Belgrade. think about it instead of getting me to play "Mr. Journalist"
(Boki, 13 October 2010 03:12) "

I asked you whether you have any reliable source to back your statement that gays are welcomed in Kosovo. I didn't ask for your assurance that they are welcomed there.

And you don't be a journalist to be able to quote sources, assuming you have any to begin with. Which I seriously doubt.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I don't have to go and search for sources Buddy, If i go and search all i find is 3 articals to rest on, like your buddys did
(Boki, 13 October 2010 13:32):"

So you are really in no position to criticize Kate for having "only" 3 sources since you are not able to produce more than 3 yourself.

Why don't you post the links to your 3 sources and let us decide how credible they are?

kate

pre 13 godina

"I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay."

Such liberal attitudes - it's like visiting cyber Soho! Are you sure you meant 'feel'?

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Talks MAYBE in March...maybe not. Time is on our side, all we have to do is wait out the thugs in Belgrade...sooner or later they're all going out.

lowe

pre 13 godina

"kate, the three articles which I Found believe are the three articles you mentioned. 2 articles from 2007 and from 2009 came up with something that is relevant. and you lowe I can not produce other articles than the three articals your journalist raised.
(Boki, 13 October 2010 16:15) "

I thought you criticized Kate for those 3 articles? And yet you are using them now yourself????

Is this the Twilight Zone or what?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Wow!

viewing a film that does not have to debate to make. you know what I can show you thousands of images of massacres children, older people simply civilians. I do not sympathize with the movie that you showed. but do not show a movie and then think that it will conjure up what the Albanians did.
(Boki, 14 October 2010 13:35) "

Why don't you stop boasting for once and put your money where your mouth is?

You claimed to have many links that disproved Kate's points. As it turned out, you had zero. Zilch.

And now you claimed to have "thousands of images". Okay, lets see them! Show them instead of just boasting empty talks!

Top

pre 13 godina

Is there agreement on the size and shape of the negotiating table?
(JohnBoy, 12 October 2010 17:49)

Not to forget the agreement on the name of the countries written on the name signs of the participants ;-)

Boki

pre 13 godina

In my opinion, 3 articles as evidence more than proves her point unless it can be shown that her links are unreliable. How many do you want? 100? 1000? I noted that you yourself have not provided even 1 link to support your point that Kosovo welcomes gays -- do you have any by the way?
(lowe, 13 October 2010 01:30)


I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay. and They Live In The Middle of Prishtina and the Other Cities in Kosovo! and I have not heard that they have been mistreated in any way. and what is more serious is that it will now be debating gay inncidenten in Belgrade in the government so it certain that one can not organize gay parade in Belgrade. think about it instead of getting me to play "Mr. Journalist"

lowe

pre 13 godina

"There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens."

Your gays can move about freely without fear in Kosovo? Then I must say they far better off than the K-Serbs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P423409BrqU

Boki

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

"Gay man from Kosovo granted political asylum in the U.S." ( [link] ), "Gay, Lesbian Youth Leaders Under Serious Death Threats" ( [link] ), "The Secret Life of Kosovo’s Gay Community" ( [link] ) ... the list is endless.

People in glass houses...
(kate, 12 October 2010 16:38)

prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92. you brought up two articles from 2007. I stand by what I say and that is that people who are gay may have better security in Kosovo if they have a parade. in Belgrade, it was almost civil war. so my journalist prove everything! 3 articles? you embarrass yourself buddy

Boki

pre 13 godina

"prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92." (boki)

-- Most rational people would conclude she did. People seeking asylum and receiving death threats for being gay in Kosovo? Pretty straightforward if you ask me. So unless attitudes in Kosovo have drastically changed in the last 2 - 3 years, congratulations you people are homophobic. Just like everyone else.
(Mike, 13 October 2010 01:35)


how can you say that Albanians are against gay people? all you have is three articles to rest on buddy!

5 000 -10 000 Serbian Nationalists, skin heads, assorted ruffians and other riff raff was against the parade
What is the out come of this?
Over 80 police men injured!!

Kosovo never had Any Gay parade in kosovo. And if they had it's not going to end like this one in Belgrad !!

I rest on news that come from Live Tv picture's
You rest on 3 articals.

C'MON SON

Boki

pre 13 godina

You embarrassed yourself, Boki. Kate had some links to back her post, but you have just your own words, you lose. Anyway, we all know Albanians are big-time homophobes, and actually beat gays in Albanian Kosovo society, we have seen links to news stories here tonight to prove that. Albanians, you have zero rights to criticize the Serbs, on any issue. Clean yourselves up first, before you try and dirty others, Albos. That will never happen.
(papajohn, 13 October 2010 01:31)

You are ashamed of what happened in Belgrade's gay parade and is now trying to play Larry King by saying a few Albanians have been assaulted.

Boki

pre 13 godina

I asked you whether you have any reliable source to back your statement that gays are welcomed in Kosovo. I didn't ask for your assurance that they are welcomed there.

And you don't be a journalist to be able to quote sources, assuming you have any to begin with. Which I seriously doubt.
(lowe, 13 October 2010 12:13)

I don't have to go and search for sources Buddy, If i go and search all i find is 3 articals to rest on, like your buddys did

Boki

pre 13 godina

kate, the three articles which I Found believe are the three articles you mentioned. 2 articles from 2007 and from 2009 came up with something that is relevant. and you lowe I can not produce other articles than the three articals your journalist raised.

benzo

pre 13 godina

you are kidding youself if you think k albanians will talk anytime soon. they know status quo is best for now.. excuse after excuse is what we'll get over next year..oh also a lotta games trying to get serbia to react..in hopes of more excuses!!

JohnnyC

pre 13 godina

"But wait, homosexuality is non-existence in Muslim countries (not that Kosovo is a country) and anybody who would dare to show up in that fairy tale parade would for sure not live the next day."

Only someone who has never been to Kosovo would say such a thing. There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens.

boki

pre 13 godina

Only someone who has never been to Kosovo would say such a thing. There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens.
(JohnnyC, 14 October 2010 08:14)

That´s Right!

Boki

pre 13 godina

Your gays can move about freely without fear in Kosovo? Then I must say they far better off than the K-Serbs! [link]
(lowe, 14 October 2010 12:09)

Wow!

viewing a film that does not have to debate to make. you know what I can show you thousands of images of massacres children, older people simply civilians. I do not sympathize with the movie that you showed. but do not show a movie and then think that it will conjure up what the Albanians did.

Milan

pre 13 godina

"highduke:
We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

Boki,

I dare the thug institutions in Pristina to organize a gay parade. But wait, homosexuality is non-existence in Muslim countries (not that Kosovo is a country) and anybody who would dare to show up in that fairy tale parade would for sure not live the next day. Do not criticize other people's dirty laundry while your own laundry is even dirtier.

Boki

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

"Gay man from Kosovo granted political asylum in the U.S." ( [link] ), "Gay, Lesbian Youth Leaders Under Serious Death Threats" ( [link] ), "The Secret Life of Kosovo’s Gay Community" ( [link] ) ... the list is endless.

People in glass houses...
(kate, 12 October 2010 16:38)

prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92. you brought up two articles from 2007. I stand by what I say and that is that people who are gay may have better security in Kosovo if they have a parade. in Belgrade, it was almost civil war. so my journalist prove everything! 3 articles? you embarrass yourself buddy

wtf

pre 13 godina

Send in the clowns!

A half-naked, rubber-dressed Tadic should walk in front of a hugh gay-parade marching to Pristina, im sure NED & Soros will provide whatever they need and the albanians will shower them with flowers..

lowe

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

well, the way you guys behaved in March 2004 could have fooled me! And you did much more than just threw rocks then!

KOSO

pre 13 godina

Talks MAYBE in March...maybe not. Time is on our side, all we have to do is wait out the thugs in Belgrade...sooner or later they're all going out.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Anti-negotiation anti-EULEX Albin Kurti would do well in Albanian elections in KiM considering the majority support he has down there. These talks will either lead to elements within the temp. inst. working with Serbia after re-integration to avoid endimtp t like Haradinaj or even worse OR they will only stall an inevitable Somalia-type scenario against KFOR led by Kurti with 1 000 000 angry Albanians

winston

pre 13 godina

Rasnici said "the Albanians will announce the exact start date of the talks, after we check with Clintonka", now that's an independent country for you. Waiting to start these talks till the Albanians elect new leaders, there are few to choose in Kosovo, by the way, is a delay tactic, because the Albanians have no one of their own to represent them. They will be told what to say by the EU/US, so why this election BS?

miri

pre 13 godina

They will be told what to say by the EU/US, so why this election BS?
(winston, 12 October 2010 15:14)

As long as our interests are in line with theirs (US, EU) we don't have a problem with that. What is your problem though? Why do you care who tell what to who? How is that changing the outcome of the reality?

kate

pre 13 godina

"We don't have Amy gay parade in Kosovo. And if We had We don't throw rocks at them, like they Did in Belgrad.
(Boki, 12 October 2010 13:36)"

"Gay man from Kosovo granted political asylum in the U.S." ( http://www.metroweekly.com/news/?ak=2706 ), "Gay, Lesbian Youth Leaders Under Serious Death Threats" ( http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/07/May/2403.htm ), "The Secret Life of Kosovo’s Gay Community" ( http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2009/09/secret-life-of-kosovos-gay-community.html ) ... the list is endless.

People in glass houses...

winston

pre 13 godina

Good post, Kate. Your post should silence the Albanian homophobes, that only know to point fingers at the Serbs, but never, never, look at themselves. Please Albanians, before you hit the send button next time you want to trash something Serbian, examine what is going on in your own backward society. The Belgrade government just supported a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade, now it's Pristina's turn. Maybe goddess klintonka will propose that idea. I would to see the Snake's face on that idea.

highduke

pre 13 godina

Boki, dont be shocked if pro-Kurti elements in the temp. inst. that haven't yet been removed try to organize a Gay parade in a last-ditch effort to gain support. It's a long shot but they're getting desperate. I agree that homosexuality would be warmly accepted among Albanians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Pederasty

papajohn

pre 13 godina

You embarrassed yourself, Boki. Kate had some links to back her post, but you have just your own words, you lose. Anyway, we all know Albanians are big-time homophobes, and actually beat gays in Albanian Kosovo society, we have seen links to news stories here tonight to prove that. Albanians, you have zero rights to criticize the Serbs, on any issue. Clean yourselves up first, before you try and dirty others, Albos. That will never happen.

winston

pre 13 godina

Yes, JohnBoy, the table top will be a replica of the Euro - as both the Serb politicians, and Albanian politicians, only see this as incentive. Any news on the date of that first Gay Pride parade in Pristina? How do you think the citizens of Albanian Kosovo will react to that?

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Time is on our side, all we have to do is wait out the thugs in Belgrade...sooner or later they're all going out." (KOSO)

-- Really? Time is on your side? I don't recall Pristina being all that keen in these upcoming talks as Belgrade seems. I also don't recall Pristina being flexible on negotiations. All we hear is what they don't want to talk about.

And I also don't recall the Belgrade government in a state of collapse. Pristina's government on the other hand seems to be in need of buying time since most EU powers are in favor of starting these talks immediately.

"prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92." (boki)

-- Most rational people would conclude she did. People seeking asylum and receiving death threats for being gay in Kosovo? Pretty straightforward if you ask me. So unless attitudes in Kosovo have drastically changed in the last 2 - 3 years, congratulations you people are homophobic. Just like everyone else.

Boki

pre 13 godina

"prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92." (boki)

-- Most rational people would conclude she did. People seeking asylum and receiving death threats for being gay in Kosovo? Pretty straightforward if you ask me. So unless attitudes in Kosovo have drastically changed in the last 2 - 3 years, congratulations you people are homophobic. Just like everyone else.
(Mike, 13 October 2010 01:35)


how can you say that Albanians are against gay people? all you have is three articles to rest on buddy!

5 000 -10 000 Serbian Nationalists, skin heads, assorted ruffians and other riff raff was against the parade
What is the out come of this?
Over 80 police men injured!!

Kosovo never had Any Gay parade in kosovo. And if they had it's not going to end like this one in Belgrad !!

I rest on news that come from Live Tv picture's
You rest on 3 articals.

C'MON SON

Boki

pre 13 godina

You embarrassed yourself, Boki. Kate had some links to back her post, but you have just your own words, you lose. Anyway, we all know Albanians are big-time homophobes, and actually beat gays in Albanian Kosovo society, we have seen links to news stories here tonight to prove that. Albanians, you have zero rights to criticize the Serbs, on any issue. Clean yourselves up first, before you try and dirty others, Albos. That will never happen.
(papajohn, 13 October 2010 01:31)

You are ashamed of what happened in Belgrade's gay parade and is now trying to play Larry King by saying a few Albanians have been assaulted.

Boki

pre 13 godina

In my opinion, 3 articles as evidence more than proves her point unless it can be shown that her links are unreliable. How many do you want? 100? 1000? I noted that you yourself have not provided even 1 link to support your point that Kosovo welcomes gays -- do you have any by the way?
(lowe, 13 October 2010 01:30)


I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay. and They Live In The Middle of Prishtina and the Other Cities in Kosovo! and I have not heard that they have been mistreated in any way. and what is more serious is that it will now be debating gay inncidenten in Belgrade in the government so it certain that one can not organize gay parade in Belgrade. think about it instead of getting me to play "Mr. Journalist"

Boki

pre 13 godina

kate, the three articles which I Found believe are the three articles you mentioned. 2 articles from 2007 and from 2009 came up with something that is relevant. and you lowe I can not produce other articles than the three articals your journalist raised.

JohnnyC

pre 13 godina

"But wait, homosexuality is non-existence in Muslim countries (not that Kosovo is a country) and anybody who would dare to show up in that fairy tale parade would for sure not live the next day."

Only someone who has never been to Kosovo would say such a thing. There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens.

Boki

pre 13 godina

Your gays can move about freely without fear in Kosovo? Then I must say they far better off than the K-Serbs! [link]
(lowe, 14 October 2010 12:09)

Wow!

viewing a film that does not have to debate to make. you know what I can show you thousands of images of massacres children, older people simply civilians. I do not sympathize with the movie that you showed. but do not show a movie and then think that it will conjure up what the Albanians did.

Top

pre 13 godina

"Please Albanians, before you hit the send button next time you want to trash something Serbian, examine what is going on in your own backward society. The Belgrade government just supported a Gay Pride parade in Belgrade, now it's Pristina's turn."
(winston, 12 October 2010 18:50)

What do you want to say? That's there a similar amount of homophobic violent rioters amongst Serbs and Albanians, but that at least the Serbian government supports human minority rights?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay. and They Live In The Middle of Prishtina and the Other Cities in Kosovo! and I have not heard that they have been mistreated in any way. and what is more serious is that it will now be debating gay inncidenten in Belgrade in the government so it certain that one can not organize gay parade in Belgrade. think about it instead of getting me to play "Mr. Journalist"
(Boki, 13 October 2010 03:12) "

I asked you whether you have any reliable source to back your statement that gays are welcomed in Kosovo. I didn't ask for your assurance that they are welcomed there.

And you don't be a journalist to be able to quote sources, assuming you have any to begin with. Which I seriously doubt.

Boki

pre 13 godina

I asked you whether you have any reliable source to back your statement that gays are welcomed in Kosovo. I didn't ask for your assurance that they are welcomed there.

And you don't be a journalist to be able to quote sources, assuming you have any to begin with. Which I seriously doubt.
(lowe, 13 October 2010 12:13)

I don't have to go and search for sources Buddy, If i go and search all i find is 3 articals to rest on, like your buddys did

boki

pre 13 godina

Only someone who has never been to Kosovo would say such a thing. There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens.
(JohnnyC, 14 October 2010 08:14)

That´s Right!

lowe

pre 13 godina

In my opinion, 3 articles as evidence more than proves her point unless it can be shown that her links are unreliable. How many do you want? 100? 1000? I noted that you yourself have not provided even 1 link to support your point that Kosovo welcomes gays -- do you have any by the way?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

prove all the facts you have when you play as a journalist here at B92. you brought up two articles from 2007. I stand by what I say and that is that people who are gay may have better security in Kosovo if they have a parade. in Belgrade, it was almost civil war. so my journalist prove everything! 3 articles? you embarrass yourself buddy
(Boki, 12 October 2010 23:48)
===================
She just proved it by posting links.
When is Pristina going to host it?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"I don't have to go and search for sources Buddy, If i go and search all i find is 3 articals to rest on, like your buddys did
(Boki, 13 October 2010 13:32):"

So you are really in no position to criticize Kate for having "only" 3 sources since you are not able to produce more than 3 yourself.

Why don't you post the links to your 3 sources and let us decide how credible they are?

kate

pre 13 godina

"I'm albanian, and frankly, I Feel Many Albanians Who Are Gay."

Such liberal attitudes - it's like visiting cyber Soho! Are you sure you meant 'feel'?

Top

pre 13 godina

Is there agreement on the size and shape of the negotiating table?
(JohnBoy, 12 October 2010 17:49)

Not to forget the agreement on the name of the countries written on the name signs of the participants ;-)

lowe

pre 13 godina

"kate, the three articles which I Found believe are the three articles you mentioned. 2 articles from 2007 and from 2009 came up with something that is relevant. and you lowe I can not produce other articles than the three articals your journalist raised.
(Boki, 13 October 2010 16:15) "

I thought you criticized Kate for those 3 articles? And yet you are using them now yourself????

Is this the Twilight Zone or what?

lowe

pre 13 godina

"There are openly Gay and Lesbian citizens walking the streets in Kosovo every day. I can't attest to their quality of life as I don't know them that well, but they certainly aren't living in fear for their lives from the other Kosovo citizens."

Your gays can move about freely without fear in Kosovo? Then I must say they far better off than the K-Serbs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P423409BrqU

lowe

pre 13 godina

"Wow!

viewing a film that does not have to debate to make. you know what I can show you thousands of images of massacres children, older people simply civilians. I do not sympathize with the movie that you showed. but do not show a movie and then think that it will conjure up what the Albanians did.
(Boki, 14 October 2010 13:35) "

Why don't you stop boasting for once and put your money where your mouth is?

You claimed to have many links that disproved Kate's points. As it turned out, you had zero. Zilch.

And now you claimed to have "thousands of images". Okay, lets see them! Show them instead of just boasting empty talks!

benzo

pre 13 godina

you are kidding youself if you think k albanians will talk anytime soon. they know status quo is best for now.. excuse after excuse is what we'll get over next year..oh also a lotta games trying to get serbia to react..in hopes of more excuses!!