Govt. backs “loyalty to Jewish state” law

"But right-wing Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said: “Will we be a Jewish and Zionist state or will we become a state of all its citizens? Anyway, my party supports this approach presented today to the cabinet.”"

Zionism isn't Judaism, Zionism is Racism.

Zionism is based on historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel.

The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood.

Ian your remarks belong in the UN dustbin.

"Will we be a Jewish and Zionist state or will we become a state of all its citizens?"

--Interesting question. I understand it to mean that a state of all its citizens means equality for all even non Jews at least in terms of law and representation. A Jewish state from my understanding seems to be a whole different matter; more of a theocracy rather than a democracy. It seems like it is now lawful to discriminate on certain citizens if they see it as a state of all its citizens rather than the state of only the Jews. That is messed up.

Zionism is based on historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel.

The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood.

Ian your remarks belong in the UN dustbin.
(mark, 11 October 2010 17:54)

There is no such thing as a "Jewish people" aka a Jewish race. Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that the Jews in Russia, Britain, Spain and Ethiopia are of the same ethnicity? They're all of very different ethnicities and besides women can marry into Judaism, no matter of what their race is; therefore I class your argument about a "Jewish people" as null and void. Also by the way the original Jews were ethnic Arabs, as was this apparent Jesus bloke, thus the natives to Palestine are Arabs regardless if their ancestors changed their religion or not. Judaism is a religion, Zionism is racism.

Also please look at the pre-WW2 definition of "Anti-Semitism" aka before the Zionists hijacked the term. Before WW2 it meant "against Semitic people" aka the opposition to Arabs, Hebrews etc. In the later 20th and current 21st century it means "Anti-Jewish"; the term has been hijacked by Zionists. Zionism is a form of racism, Judaism is a religion.

Genetic studies indicate various lineages found in modern Jewish populations; however, most of these populations share a lineage in common, traceable to an ancient population that underwent geographic branching and subsequent independent evolutions. While DNA tests have demonstrated inter-marriage in all of the various Jewish ethnic divisions over the last 3,000 years, it was substantially less than in other populations. The findings lend support to traditional Jewish accounts accrediting their founding to exiled Israelite populations, and counters theories that many or most of the world's Jewish populations were founded entirely by local populations that adopted the Jewish religion, devoid of any actual Israelite genetic input.

Ian i dont need to beleive zhe world knows.

This is nothing special.

Name me one country that doesn't require it's new citizens to swear an oath of loyalty.
(Danilo, 12 October 2010 01:04)

-- Sure they do require an oath of loyalty but not an oath of loyalty to a specific religion. By swearing an oath of loyalty to a JEWISH state you're essentially requiring people to be loyal to judaism in Israel even if you're an atheist, catholic, protestant, muslim, Budhist etc. This is totaly different from requiring an oath of loyalty towards the State of Israel. The equvalent of swearing an oath to a Jewish state is swearing an oath to say a Muslim state. That means anything regarded as not being in accordance tho the laws of Judaism is grounds for removal of your citizenship. So instead of going by the constitution they're going by the Torah. That is very very wrong.

This is nothing special.

Name me one country that doesn't require it's new citizens to swear an oath of loyalty.

So, what is it, Ian?

Jews aren't in any way a race, but Zionism is racism?

There's something about Jews that make some people go a little koo-koo.

"But right-wing Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said: “Will we be a Jewish and Zionist state or will we become a state of all its citizens? Anyway, my party supports this approach presented today to the cabinet.”"

Zionism isn't Judaism, Zionism is Racism.

Zionism is based on historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel.

The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood.

Ian your remarks belong in the UN dustbin.

"Will we be a Jewish and Zionist state or will we become a state of all its citizens?"

--Interesting question. I understand it to mean that a state of all its citizens means equality for all even non Jews at least in terms of law and representation. A Jewish state from my understanding seems to be a whole different matter; more of a theocracy rather than a democracy. It seems like it is now lawful to discriminate on certain citizens if they see it as a state of all its citizens rather than the state of only the Jews. That is messed up.

Zionism is based on historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel.

The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood.

Ian your remarks belong in the UN dustbin.
(mark, 11 October 2010 17:54)

There is no such thing as a "Jewish people" aka a Jewish race. Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that the Jews in Russia, Britain, Spain and Ethiopia are of the same ethnicity? They're all of very different ethnicities and besides women can marry into Judaism, no matter of what their race is; therefore I class your argument about a "Jewish people" as null and void. Also by the way the original Jews were ethnic Arabs, as was this apparent Jesus bloke, thus the natives to Palestine are Arabs regardless if their ancestors changed their religion or not. Judaism is a religion, Zionism is racism.

Also please look at the pre-WW2 definition of "Anti-Semitism" aka before the Zionists hijacked the term. Before WW2 it meant "against Semitic people" aka the opposition to Arabs, Hebrews etc. In the later 20th and current 21st century it means "Anti-Jewish"; the term has been hijacked by Zionists. Zionism is a form of racism, Judaism is a religion.

Genetic studies indicate various lineages found in modern Jewish populations; however, most of these populations share a lineage in common, traceable to an ancient population that underwent geographic branching and subsequent independent evolutions. While DNA tests have demonstrated inter-marriage in all of the various Jewish ethnic divisions over the last 3,000 years, it was substantially less than in other populations. The findings lend support to traditional Jewish accounts accrediting their founding to exiled Israelite populations, and counters theories that many or most of the world's Jewish populations were founded entirely by local populations that adopted the Jewish religion, devoid of any actual Israelite genetic input.

Ian i dont need to beleive zhe world knows.

This is nothing special.

Name me one country that doesn't require it's new citizens to swear an oath of loyalty.

So, what is it, Ian?

Jews aren't in any way a race, but Zionism is racism?

There's something about Jews that make some people go a little koo-koo.

This is nothing special.

Name me one country that doesn't require it's new citizens to swear an oath of loyalty.
(Danilo, 12 October 2010 01:04)

-- Sure they do require an oath of loyalty but not an oath of loyalty to a specific religion. By swearing an oath of loyalty to a JEWISH state you're essentially requiring people to be loyal to judaism in Israel even if you're an atheist, catholic, protestant, muslim, Budhist etc. This is totaly different from requiring an oath of loyalty towards the State of Israel. The equvalent of swearing an oath to a Jewish state is swearing an oath to say a Muslim state. That means anything regarded as not being in accordance tho the laws of Judaism is grounds for removal of your citizenship. So instead of going by the constitution they're going by the Torah. That is very very wrong.