Despite <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=10&dd=11&nav_id=70208" class="text-link" target= "_blank"> several hours of rioting</a> in Belgrade, organizers of the Belgrade Pride gay parade believe that they accomplished their goals.
It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
You know this will never happen. If there is onething upon which Albanians and Serbs can agree, it is that behaviour has no place in our societies. Such a parade as the Serbs have allowed would never be permitted to take place in Kosova.
# Heartfelt congratulations to our brave brothers and sisters in Belgrade for making this event happen. It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
Yo, bro, lemme know what we can do to help out. great to hear from you, your courage and faith...
Lazar, I heard there was some small parade yesterday in Belgrade. Unfortunately, it was so protected by police, and sealed off from the public, that no one saw it. Is there any proof that this parade happened? Are there any pictures? I haven't seen any, besides some people holding a banner "Together we Can", which could have been staged in Novi Beograd on any day of the year. But if you think you succeeded at improving minority rights in Serbia, especially when everyone knew of the reactions your parade would cause, the toll on the police, and the destruction of the city, then I guess the Pride parade was a success for you. You must be Proud today.
Not sure if this "parade" has really helped your cause and favors a better integration of homosexuals in Serbian society.
On the contrary, I think that all this media uprising prior to the event has awakened reject feelings from people who otherwise would have been just indifferent.
Was it really worth 158 injured to please those 1000 participants and some European apparatchiks?
I think it wasn't and even though having absolutely no homophobic feelings, I would not recommend to repeat the same event next year.
It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
At least from published pictures of the parade: it was a "normal" parade, with people holding hands and with rainbow flags. Nothing wrong with that, it wasn't the kind of parade I would basically object.
It did satisfy TWO out of my THREE criteria:
1) It was tasteful (at least according pictures). No gyrating half-naked guys imitating sex with each other (like in the Sates). Just normally dressed people marching with flags.
2) I did not see much of commercialization.
But: it was obviously a strong foreign (western) presence (speakers, etc). This is unacceptable. The only acceptable foreign presence for me would be from countries of Yugoslavia.
But as "bganon" wrote - the name like "human rights parade" or "freedom of lifestyle parade" would fit the purpose better. Probably remember the OK parade in Zagreb last year when a very horrible and provocative slogan ("Croatia can swallow") was chosen by some idiots - but the parade itself wasn't provocative.
If you can keep 1) + 2) in Pristina and the only foreigners with high visibility would be from YU and AL - than why not? And maybe chose a more generic name ("human rights parade" or "freedom of lifestyle parade").
My generally negative stance towards such parades softened a bit today after the mindless violence of hooligans. Thumbs down for hooligans, hope the cameras in BG worked well and hope the judges won't be soft.
"Pravda za Urosha" - yes, he GOT his "pravda", as deserved. Same wish for the perpetrators from yesterday.
Indeed, now go on you brave freedom fighters™ go on to Pristina and Tirana, what are you waiting for?.
Wake up the Otpor™ sleeping cells and go right on to Saudi Arabia and beyond to Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Show us how brave you are and let these friends and vassals of USA feel the freedom!
Heartfelt congratulations to our brave brothers and sisters in Belgrade for making this event happen. It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
Indeed, now go on you brave freedom fighters™ go on to Pristina and Tirana, what are you waiting for?.
Wake up the Otpor™ sleeping cells and go right on to Saudi Arabia and beyond to Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Show us how brave you are and let these friends and vassals of USA feel the freedom!
Heartfelt congratulations to our brave brothers and sisters in Belgrade for making this event happen. It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
Not sure if this "parade" has really helped your cause and favors a better integration of homosexuals in Serbian society.
On the contrary, I think that all this media uprising prior to the event has awakened reject feelings from people who otherwise would have been just indifferent.
Was it really worth 158 injured to please those 1000 participants and some European apparatchiks?
I think it wasn't and even though having absolutely no homophobic feelings, I would not recommend to repeat the same event next year.
It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
At least from published pictures of the parade: it was a "normal" parade, with people holding hands and with rainbow flags. Nothing wrong with that, it wasn't the kind of parade I would basically object.
It did satisfy TWO out of my THREE criteria:
1) It was tasteful (at least according pictures). No gyrating half-naked guys imitating sex with each other (like in the Sates). Just normally dressed people marching with flags.
2) I did not see much of commercialization.
But: it was obviously a strong foreign (western) presence (speakers, etc). This is unacceptable. The only acceptable foreign presence for me would be from countries of Yugoslavia.
But as "bganon" wrote - the name like "human rights parade" or "freedom of lifestyle parade" would fit the purpose better. Probably remember the OK parade in Zagreb last year when a very horrible and provocative slogan ("Croatia can swallow") was chosen by some idiots - but the parade itself wasn't provocative.
If you can keep 1) + 2) in Pristina and the only foreigners with high visibility would be from YU and AL - than why not? And maybe chose a more generic name ("human rights parade" or "freedom of lifestyle parade").
My generally negative stance towards such parades softened a bit today after the mindless violence of hooligans. Thumbs down for hooligans, hope the cameras in BG worked well and hope the judges won't be soft.
"Pravda za Urosha" - yes, he GOT his "pravda", as deserved. Same wish for the perpetrators from yesterday.
Lazar, I heard there was some small parade yesterday in Belgrade. Unfortunately, it was so protected by police, and sealed off from the public, that no one saw it. Is there any proof that this parade happened? Are there any pictures? I haven't seen any, besides some people holding a banner "Together we Can", which could have been staged in Novi Beograd on any day of the year. But if you think you succeeded at improving minority rights in Serbia, especially when everyone knew of the reactions your parade would cause, the toll on the police, and the destruction of the city, then I guess the Pride parade was a success for you. You must be Proud today.
# Heartfelt congratulations to our brave brothers and sisters in Belgrade for making this event happen. It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
Yo, bro, lemme know what we can do to help out. great to hear from you, your courage and faith...
It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
You know this will never happen. If there is onething upon which Albanians and Serbs can agree, it is that behaviour has no place in our societies. Such a parade as the Serbs have allowed would never be permitted to take place in Kosova.
Heartfelt congratulations to our brave brothers and sisters in Belgrade for making this event happen. It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
At least from published pictures of the parade: it was a "normal" parade, with people holding hands and with rainbow flags. Nothing wrong with that, it wasn't the kind of parade I would basically object.
It did satisfy TWO out of my THREE criteria:
1) It was tasteful (at least according pictures). No gyrating half-naked guys imitating sex with each other (like in the Sates). Just normally dressed people marching with flags.
2) I did not see much of commercialization.
But: it was obviously a strong foreign (western) presence (speakers, etc). This is unacceptable. The only acceptable foreign presence for me would be from countries of Yugoslavia.
But as "bganon" wrote - the name like "human rights parade" or "freedom of lifestyle parade" would fit the purpose better. Probably remember the OK parade in Zagreb last year when a very horrible and provocative slogan ("Croatia can swallow") was chosen by some idiots - but the parade itself wasn't provocative.
If you can keep 1) + 2) in Pristina and the only foreigners with high visibility would be from YU and AL - than why not? And maybe chose a more generic name ("human rights parade" or "freedom of lifestyle parade").
My generally negative stance towards such parades softened a bit today after the mindless violence of hooligans. Thumbs down for hooligans, hope the cameras in BG worked well and hope the judges won't be soft.
"Pravda za Urosha" - yes, he GOT his "pravda", as deserved. Same wish for the perpetrators from yesterday.
Indeed, now go on you brave freedom fighters™ go on to Pristina and Tirana, what are you waiting for?.
Wake up the Otpor™ sleeping cells and go right on to Saudi Arabia and beyond to Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Show us how brave you are and let these friends and vassals of USA feel the freedom!
Lazar, I heard there was some small parade yesterday in Belgrade. Unfortunately, it was so protected by police, and sealed off from the public, that no one saw it. Is there any proof that this parade happened? Are there any pictures? I haven't seen any, besides some people holding a banner "Together we Can", which could have been staged in Novi Beograd on any day of the year. But if you think you succeeded at improving minority rights in Serbia, especially when everyone knew of the reactions your parade would cause, the toll on the police, and the destruction of the city, then I guess the Pride parade was a success for you. You must be Proud today.
Not sure if this "parade" has really helped your cause and favors a better integration of homosexuals in Serbian society.
On the contrary, I think that all this media uprising prior to the event has awakened reject feelings from people who otherwise would have been just indifferent.
Was it really worth 158 injured to please those 1000 participants and some European apparatchiks?
I think it wasn't and even though having absolutely no homophobic feelings, I would not recommend to repeat the same event next year.
It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
You know this will never happen. If there is onething upon which Albanians and Serbs can agree, it is that behaviour has no place in our societies. Such a parade as the Serbs have allowed would never be permitted to take place in Kosova.
# Heartfelt congratulations to our brave brothers and sisters in Belgrade for making this event happen. It is essential now that we have Pride in Prishtina. Kosova cannot be seen to be lagging behind Serbia in tolerance and embracing civilised values.
(Uranik, 11 October 2010 12:02)
Yo, bro, lemme know what we can do to help out. great to hear from you, your courage and faith...
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