"If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
(nikshala, 30 September 2010 16:59)"
I must have missed the list of compromises somewhere. Please enlighten all of us. What has Pristina given up so far?
(Patrik)
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Don't expect an answer, her foot will remain in the mouth.
funny to have you dealing with our politicians!
Thaci was elected by the people of kosovo,and you have no say here§
As for Surroi,he is,for us albanians, a pur product of serbian state,so do not even try to say he is bright or suitable for our state:he is suitable for your state,taht makes quite a difference!The time of what we in kosovo,call the titists is gonewith you!
as for this news,it's just a serbian provocation to create troubles in kosovo!But no chance,we do know where we are going ,and certainly not toward serbia!
all this "stepping down" talk is evidence that k albanians never imagined they would be talking to serbia without the US present speaking on behalf of the k albanians.
fear and confusion has set in and no one wants to take credit for the consessions k albanians will be required to give.
practice makes perfect!! lets face it k albanians have not negotiated for themselves re: kosovo in a long time. just the thought of these guys sitting across from boris and vuk keeps fatmir and thaci awake all night...lets go boys ..man up!!
(By comparison, Republika Srpska is performing phenomenally!)
LOOOL, yeah I heard the European Commission is gathering urgently to try containing this emerging industrial Superpower whose sole economy consist of Dodik's corrupted family mafia firms....
"It is in Serbia's interest to keep Kosovo leaders as hardline and nationalist as possible, this makes Serbs look like the nice guys, willing to talk, cooperate etc while pointing the fingers at K-Albs for being stubborn.
(DJ MeHighLow, 30 September 2010 22:49)
I agree, but don't forget one thing: It's the people of Kosovo who have to elect their leaders. Let's see if they will vote for similar persons (or even for more nationalistic ones) and drive themselves into international isolation.
So I guess it's a matter of taste whether it is more embarassing to have two little paranoid potatoes at the helm of a country, or an organized mafia, but I go for number two personally.
(Peter Sudyka, 1 October 2010 09:06)
Excellent sources! Thanks for providing this.
Nobody knows what will happen. However, US history has many examples of puppet leaders who've been forced out of power by the US. Noriega in Panama is an excellent example of one such leader who ended up in UP prison after being on the US payroll. Thaci and Sedju (spelling?) are US puppets. The US helped write the Kosovo constitution. Kosovo is no more than a US puppet state. It does what its lords tell it to do. There are no surprises or autonomous decisions when it comes to a puppet state. There are no accidents here. These two must have been doing something the US didn't like and now they are being forced into early retirement. They should consider themselves lucky if they don't follow Noreiga's fate.
I'll grant you that, the Xerox brothers were truly a massive embarassment for Poland in terms of many things, but at least they don't have any criminal activities behind their name, such as stated in the following articles regarding Hashim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and other prominent mobsters, their links with other mobsters and their activities:
So I guess it's a matter of taste whether it is more embarassing to have two little paranoid potatoes at the helm of a country, or an organized mafia, but I go for number two personally.
Denis, already answered to u once to ur heidi story and my view on the snake and the albanians, u have a poor short memory...
PS, a hint for u:
my parents' neibghour is an albanian family, we have very often coffee together, guess why...
My uncle legaly employs albanians, guess why...
I have a lot of diplomats friends, guess why...
Now b my guest and make ur Heidi story !!
Hence, the USA/NWO aren't empowering anyone, they're just creating more slaves, and there's nothing "Independent"
about that.
(Rod, 30 September 2010 18:51)
Rod,
So eloquently written. When put in this context it is so easy to see the failures of this band of rogues, (Blair, Bush, Clinton, Merkel & Co.
I have to stand back a minute and carefully interpret this a little more analytically assuming the news are true and Thaci really is resigning.
For Serbs this could actually be a bad thing as far as defence of Kosovo is concerned. If Kosovo were to get a more legitimate leader(s) (i.e. no KLA connections, no blood on their hands, no nationalist) then this will look good in the eyes of the int. community so more recognitions may come as well as investment. Such a leader would be more willing to negotiate but only on technical issues, which will eventually "water down" the whole status issue over time. This will not be good for Serbia. I can't say how easy or even possible it is to find such a leader in Kosovo though.
On the other hand if another nationalist wins then this will be good for Serbia as it will make Kosovo still remain a state in the "not ready" mode. It will keep slowing down recognitions and investment and will eventually have the K-Albs turn against US as their promised new born state will be in ruin.
It is in Serbia's interest to keep Kosovo leaders as hardline and nationalist as possible, this makes Serbs look like the nice guys, willing to talk, cooperate etc while pointing the fingers at K-Albs for being stubborn. Whoever is elected though will no doubt be a US/EULEX puppet so no changes there as well as in the standards of living for the people of Kosovo.
Well my first response at reading this is: "hit the road Jack, and don't come back." But this is immediately followed by another set of questions:
Like everything that's been going on in Kosovo this week, why now? Why resign now? Is the EULEX corruption sweep THAT effective?
And I completely agree with nikshala when he says that Thaci would not resign unless it suited his interests. Who will replace him? Another crony? We can cheer for Surroi, but he's unfortunately a marginal figure in Kosovo's politics.
Yes, the question is who will come after, the same thugs with another blood teinted suit or finally some decent politicians that will put the well being of their people before their own grid...
In any case, good to see that this criminal will eventualy disappear from the front scene..
(The Swiss, 30 September 2010 18:22)
And you know all this stuff about criminals .... how exactly? I think the Hague has never accused Thaci of anything, or are we to trust your gut feelings over the opinion of Hague tribunal. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of criminals in kosovo, and I have no simpathy for Thaci, yet seems like your intentions are sinister towards Albanians in general rather then Thaci.
Are you one of those swiss who along with Heidi stories also likes the tails of everything Serbian media/propaganda has to say. I mean they were talking about terrorists 10 yrs ago, but guess who digged the mass graves and did the mass murdering, expulsions, and burning in Kosovo??..... yeah I know what u are thinking .... NATO did....lol
I'd say Veton Surroi is just about to get a boost. He is the only person I can think of being suitable considering his father was the Yugoslav ambassador to Spain (and some Latin American countries). He is fluent in Serbian also (but so are many other Kosovo Albanians).
(Zoran, 30 September 2010 16:24)
Surroi is a bright individual, but he is no diffrerent from other politicians in Kosovo when it comes to Independence.
Serbia simply just has build no credit in that place. It has been such a negative force for K-Albanians, that literaly no K-Alb supports a return under Serbian rule/border, even those who did well in the times of Yugoslavia and were integrated into serbian society, like Surroi, or Pacolli, and other successful businessmen. I think that everyone agrees, if Milo wouldn't have revoked autonomy in 1989 Kosovo had no chance to go this far.
Surroi indeed has been one of the best proponents of independence and one of the most effective ones.
I think you should only blame urselves, you had a great chance to build a bridge of peace and stability with Albanians through Kosovo, where Serbs and Albanians were good neigbors, allies and economic partners, but Serbia preferred to serve its nationalistic passions more than it's regional coperation needs/interests.
These joke, so-called, "politicians" are literally the laughing stock of European politics.
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Naturally this must be true since it's coming from the premier political scientist of this forum.
Btw...speaking of laughing stock, I'm willing to bet that many Poles would probably agree that your ex-prime minister was far more ridiculous and embarrassing than Thaci & Co. could ever manage to be.
In Iraq: After holding elections (6) months ago, they've been unable to form a government there since. The country is in chaos!
In Afghanistan: They just held elections mired w/ widespread fraud, where nearly 1/4 of the polling stations were closed, while less than 30% of the registered voters voted.
Afghanistan is in Chaos, even more so than Iraq.
In Bosnia: the existing BH Federation Gov't is bankrupt & falling apart, and the upcoming scheduled elections are expected to change nothing. (By comparison, Republika Srpska is performing phenomenally!)
In Kosovo: the interim Albanian NWO puppet Gov't is verging on collapse, while the economy there is virtually non-existent (the biggest export is scrap metal for gods sake!).
What do all of these places have in common? They all represent failed USA/NWO attempts at "democratic nation building". It seems that the only thing America is capable of building in these places are Welfare-Dependent-Ghettoized-Societies, whose inhabitants are easily controlled, and administered by utter incompetents. This is especially true in Kosovo: as I understand it, Hashim Thaci didn't even graduate
High School!
Hence, the USA/NWO aren't empowering anyone, they're just creating more slaves, and there's nothing "Independent"
about that.
"The same sources said Thaci met with ambassadors of the so-called Quint today"
-- B92 what do you mean the so-called Quint? There are 5 countries so it is a quint. This is not something disputable. Its a fact. You can't put your bias everywhere.
Also nice to see the usual bitterness of the Serbs. Its short lived however. If new elections where to be held withing a month or two that would secure Thaci another term since neither of the other parties are prepared for elections and are in disarray at this moment. It would be an easy victory for Thaci.
Yes written from a member of the new dream state. I hope you have a problem with that.
Yes, the question is who will come after, the same thugs with another blood teinted suit or finally some decent politicians that will put the well being of their people before their own grid...
In any case, good to see that this criminal will eventualy disappear from the front scene..
"If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
(nikshala, 30 September 2010 16:59)"
I must have missed the list of compromises somewhere. Please enlighten all of us. What has Pristina given up so far?
Who will follow? Based on the current popularity of certain parties in Kosovo, it will likely be somebody ever worse. And I wonder if the resignations were done so this other party can be elected and do the dirty work that the other parties want to do, but don't want to be seen doing.
It is pretty amusing to see the serb camp cheering on the news about Thaci's possible resignation without understanding the implications.
If there is a resignation it will only be for the purpose of having quick elecations so Thaci can win again whilst the opposition is weak!
Another point - if you think that by having an elecation the Kosovan population will vote for a type of leader that will negotiate with Serbia and accept something less than independence - then you are seriously misinformed and have no understanding of the situation in Kosovo whatsoever. If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
I'd say Veton Surroi is just about to get a boost. He is the only person I can think of being suitable considering his father was the Yugoslav ambassador to Spain (and some Latin American countries). He is fluent in Serbian also (but so are many other Kosovo Albanians).
As I said in another post before reading this article. "time to pay the piper". The west expects real compromise. Tadic realized that. If Thaci won't do it, someone else will step in.
Goodness me, first the "president" and now the "prime minister"? Things are just not going too well for "the world's newest state" are they?
When is someone going to finally break the news to the people of Kosovo that the party is over? These joke, so-called, "politicians" are literally the laughing stock of European politics.
You guys have no idea about the Kosovo politics (particularly you Winston). Anyway, good that you express. But please let aside the hatred language. It does not help to anyone.
Looks like The Snake will be getting his retirement watch earlier than he thought, maybe the one they stole from Bush? The Pristina politicos are dropping like flies, and the US/EU are holding the swatter. What an interesting turn of events.
As I have posted numerous times, until the KLA'ers in Pristina, that know only how to act with force and or corruption, are gone, and more educated and politically knowledgeable representatives replace them, the deadlock in Kosovo will remain. I believe the West has realized this too, and has given Seidju and Thaci walking papers. Two top officials resigning in Pristina in less than a week, sounds a little fishy to me. In any case, this is the best possible thing to happen for the Kosovo Albanians. We all know that the US/EU does the talking and bidding for Pristina. Many compromises will have to be made by the Albanians during negotiations, maybe even status, and these resignations will save face for these KLA heros. As for who will replace them, no, not Kurti, it will be some unknowns that Eulex can completely control. Just think about it, Haradinaj in the Hague, Seidju had a constitutional conflict, Thaci resigns over the handling over the handling of the phone service, and last I read, Ceku was in Massachusetts, pleading for money from the Albanian diaspora. Good luck Kosovo, you will need it, but remember, your so-called independence was made possible by America, they controlled it from the start, and they will control it till the end. But it looks like Tadic has become their new golden boy.
Something is boiling down the surface but we don't know yet. If early elections are to be held what's the difference? If their resignation has been one of Serbia's conditions for the talks than who would Serbia rather talk to? Kurti?!
Thaci will only resign if it suits his political career and interests of PDK - i.e. early elections within next couple of months might be exactly what PDK needs because Haradinaj is still in Hague and Albin Kurti's fast growing support is not to the level required to win an election. LDK are all over the place as well.
Having an election before negotations with the serbs beging means that their popularity will not be damaged by further concessions to Serbia which are bound to happen with the current leadership.
This way, they get to ensure that they can stay in power for another 5 years (albeit in a coalition).
I think the west wants Thaci to remain in power because in my opinion he is their pawn and listens to them. Most current PDK - LDK policiants in power are corrupt and thus easily manipulated by the internationals. This means that they put their own interests before that of the general population.
I cannot wait to see the back of the current ruling parties and I will vote for anyone but the current thiefs.
Thaci resigning? Not a big loss. But indeed, who will follow him? There's a huge lack of reputable politicians in the independent dream state of Kosovo.
As I have posted numerous times, until the KLA'ers in Pristina, that know only how to act with force and or corruption, are gone, and more educated and politically knowledgeable representatives replace them, the deadlock in Kosovo will remain. I believe the West has realized this too, and has given Seidju and Thaci walking papers. Two top officials resigning in Pristina in less than a week, sounds a little fishy to me. In any case, this is the best possible thing to happen for the Kosovo Albanians. We all know that the US/EU does the talking and bidding for Pristina. Many compromises will have to be made by the Albanians during negotiations, maybe even status, and these resignations will save face for these KLA heros. As for who will replace them, no, not Kurti, it will be some unknowns that Eulex can completely control. Just think about it, Haradinaj in the Hague, Seidju had a constitutional conflict, Thaci resigns over the handling over the handling of the phone service, and last I read, Ceku was in Massachusetts, pleading for money from the Albanian diaspora. Good luck Kosovo, you will need it, but remember, your so-called independence was made possible by America, they controlled it from the start, and they will control it till the end. But it looks like Tadic has become their new golden boy.
Thaci resigning? Not a big loss. But indeed, who will follow him? There's a huge lack of reputable politicians in the independent dream state of Kosovo.
Goodness me, first the "president" and now the "prime minister"? Things are just not going too well for "the world's newest state" are they?
When is someone going to finally break the news to the people of Kosovo that the party is over? These joke, so-called, "politicians" are literally the laughing stock of European politics.
Looks like The Snake will be getting his retirement watch earlier than he thought, maybe the one they stole from Bush? The Pristina politicos are dropping like flies, and the US/EU are holding the swatter. What an interesting turn of events.
It is pretty amusing to see the serb camp cheering on the news about Thaci's possible resignation without understanding the implications.
If there is a resignation it will only be for the purpose of having quick elecations so Thaci can win again whilst the opposition is weak!
Another point - if you think that by having an elecation the Kosovan population will vote for a type of leader that will negotiate with Serbia and accept something less than independence - then you are seriously misinformed and have no understanding of the situation in Kosovo whatsoever. If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
As I said in another post before reading this article. "time to pay the piper". The west expects real compromise. Tadic realized that. If Thaci won't do it, someone else will step in.
Something is boiling down the surface but we don't know yet. If early elections are to be held what's the difference? If their resignation has been one of Serbia's conditions for the talks than who would Serbia rather talk to? Kurti?!
In Iraq: After holding elections (6) months ago, they've been unable to form a government there since. The country is in chaos!
In Afghanistan: They just held elections mired w/ widespread fraud, where nearly 1/4 of the polling stations were closed, while less than 30% of the registered voters voted.
Afghanistan is in Chaos, even more so than Iraq.
In Bosnia: the existing BH Federation Gov't is bankrupt & falling apart, and the upcoming scheduled elections are expected to change nothing. (By comparison, Republika Srpska is performing phenomenally!)
In Kosovo: the interim Albanian NWO puppet Gov't is verging on collapse, while the economy there is virtually non-existent (the biggest export is scrap metal for gods sake!).
What do all of these places have in common? They all represent failed USA/NWO attempts at "democratic nation building". It seems that the only thing America is capable of building in these places are Welfare-Dependent-Ghettoized-Societies, whose inhabitants are easily controlled, and administered by utter incompetents. This is especially true in Kosovo: as I understand it, Hashim Thaci didn't even graduate
High School!
Hence, the USA/NWO aren't empowering anyone, they're just creating more slaves, and there's nothing "Independent"
about that.
I'd say Veton Surroi is just about to get a boost. He is the only person I can think of being suitable considering his father was the Yugoslav ambassador to Spain (and some Latin American countries). He is fluent in Serbian also (but so are many other Kosovo Albanians).
Thaci will only resign if it suits his political career and interests of PDK - i.e. early elections within next couple of months might be exactly what PDK needs because Haradinaj is still in Hague and Albin Kurti's fast growing support is not to the level required to win an election. LDK are all over the place as well.
Having an election before negotations with the serbs beging means that their popularity will not be damaged by further concessions to Serbia which are bound to happen with the current leadership.
This way, they get to ensure that they can stay in power for another 5 years (albeit in a coalition).
I think the west wants Thaci to remain in power because in my opinion he is their pawn and listens to them. Most current PDK - LDK policiants in power are corrupt and thus easily manipulated by the internationals. This means that they put their own interests before that of the general population.
I cannot wait to see the back of the current ruling parties and I will vote for anyone but the current thiefs.
You guys have no idea about the Kosovo politics (particularly you Winston). Anyway, good that you express. But please let aside the hatred language. It does not help to anyone.
Well my first response at reading this is: "hit the road Jack, and don't come back." But this is immediately followed by another set of questions:
Like everything that's been going on in Kosovo this week, why now? Why resign now? Is the EULEX corruption sweep THAT effective?
And I completely agree with nikshala when he says that Thaci would not resign unless it suited his interests. Who will replace him? Another crony? We can cheer for Surroi, but he's unfortunately a marginal figure in Kosovo's politics.
Who will follow? Based on the current popularity of certain parties in Kosovo, it will likely be somebody ever worse. And I wonder if the resignations were done so this other party can be elected and do the dirty work that the other parties want to do, but don't want to be seen doing.
Hence, the USA/NWO aren't empowering anyone, they're just creating more slaves, and there's nothing "Independent"
about that.
(Rod, 30 September 2010 18:51)
Rod,
So eloquently written. When put in this context it is so easy to see the failures of this band of rogues, (Blair, Bush, Clinton, Merkel & Co.
I have to stand back a minute and carefully interpret this a little more analytically assuming the news are true and Thaci really is resigning.
For Serbs this could actually be a bad thing as far as defence of Kosovo is concerned. If Kosovo were to get a more legitimate leader(s) (i.e. no KLA connections, no blood on their hands, no nationalist) then this will look good in the eyes of the int. community so more recognitions may come as well as investment. Such a leader would be more willing to negotiate but only on technical issues, which will eventually "water down" the whole status issue over time. This will not be good for Serbia. I can't say how easy or even possible it is to find such a leader in Kosovo though.
On the other hand if another nationalist wins then this will be good for Serbia as it will make Kosovo still remain a state in the "not ready" mode. It will keep slowing down recognitions and investment and will eventually have the K-Albs turn against US as their promised new born state will be in ruin.
It is in Serbia's interest to keep Kosovo leaders as hardline and nationalist as possible, this makes Serbs look like the nice guys, willing to talk, cooperate etc while pointing the fingers at K-Albs for being stubborn. Whoever is elected though will no doubt be a US/EULEX puppet so no changes there as well as in the standards of living for the people of Kosovo.
"If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
(nikshala, 30 September 2010 16:59)"
I must have missed the list of compromises somewhere. Please enlighten all of us. What has Pristina given up so far?
Yes, the question is who will come after, the same thugs with another blood teinted suit or finally some decent politicians that will put the well being of their people before their own grid...
In any case, good to see that this criminal will eventualy disappear from the front scene..
I'd say Veton Surroi is just about to get a boost. He is the only person I can think of being suitable considering his father was the Yugoslav ambassador to Spain (and some Latin American countries). He is fluent in Serbian also (but so are many other Kosovo Albanians).
(Zoran, 30 September 2010 16:24)
Surroi is a bright individual, but he is no diffrerent from other politicians in Kosovo when it comes to Independence.
Serbia simply just has build no credit in that place. It has been such a negative force for K-Albanians, that literaly no K-Alb supports a return under Serbian rule/border, even those who did well in the times of Yugoslavia and were integrated into serbian society, like Surroi, or Pacolli, and other successful businessmen. I think that everyone agrees, if Milo wouldn't have revoked autonomy in 1989 Kosovo had no chance to go this far.
Surroi indeed has been one of the best proponents of independence and one of the most effective ones.
I think you should only blame urselves, you had a great chance to build a bridge of peace and stability with Albanians through Kosovo, where Serbs and Albanians were good neigbors, allies and economic partners, but Serbia preferred to serve its nationalistic passions more than it's regional coperation needs/interests.
These joke, so-called, "politicians" are literally the laughing stock of European politics.
===============
Naturally this must be true since it's coming from the premier political scientist of this forum.
Btw...speaking of laughing stock, I'm willing to bet that many Poles would probably agree that your ex-prime minister was far more ridiculous and embarrassing than Thaci & Co. could ever manage to be.
Yes, the question is who will come after, the same thugs with another blood teinted suit or finally some decent politicians that will put the well being of their people before their own grid...
In any case, good to see that this criminal will eventualy disappear from the front scene..
(The Swiss, 30 September 2010 18:22)
And you know all this stuff about criminals .... how exactly? I think the Hague has never accused Thaci of anything, or are we to trust your gut feelings over the opinion of Hague tribunal. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of criminals in kosovo, and I have no simpathy for Thaci, yet seems like your intentions are sinister towards Albanians in general rather then Thaci.
Are you one of those swiss who along with Heidi stories also likes the tails of everything Serbian media/propaganda has to say. I mean they were talking about terrorists 10 yrs ago, but guess who digged the mass graves and did the mass murdering, expulsions, and burning in Kosovo??..... yeah I know what u are thinking .... NATO did....lol
So I guess it's a matter of taste whether it is more embarassing to have two little paranoid potatoes at the helm of a country, or an organized mafia, but I go for number two personally.
(Peter Sudyka, 1 October 2010 09:06)
Excellent sources! Thanks for providing this.
Nobody knows what will happen. However, US history has many examples of puppet leaders who've been forced out of power by the US. Noriega in Panama is an excellent example of one such leader who ended up in UP prison after being on the US payroll. Thaci and Sedju (spelling?) are US puppets. The US helped write the Kosovo constitution. Kosovo is no more than a US puppet state. It does what its lords tell it to do. There are no surprises or autonomous decisions when it comes to a puppet state. There are no accidents here. These two must have been doing something the US didn't like and now they are being forced into early retirement. They should consider themselves lucky if they don't follow Noreiga's fate.
"It is in Serbia's interest to keep Kosovo leaders as hardline and nationalist as possible, this makes Serbs look like the nice guys, willing to talk, cooperate etc while pointing the fingers at K-Albs for being stubborn.
(DJ MeHighLow, 30 September 2010 22:49)
I agree, but don't forget one thing: It's the people of Kosovo who have to elect their leaders. Let's see if they will vote for similar persons (or even for more nationalistic ones) and drive themselves into international isolation.
I'll grant you that, the Xerox brothers were truly a massive embarassment for Poland in terms of many things, but at least they don't have any criminal activities behind their name, such as stated in the following articles regarding Hashim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and other prominent mobsters, their links with other mobsters and their activities:
So I guess it's a matter of taste whether it is more embarassing to have two little paranoid potatoes at the helm of a country, or an organized mafia, but I go for number two personally.
(By comparison, Republika Srpska is performing phenomenally!)
LOOOL, yeah I heard the European Commission is gathering urgently to try containing this emerging industrial Superpower whose sole economy consist of Dodik's corrupted family mafia firms....
"The same sources said Thaci met with ambassadors of the so-called Quint today"
-- B92 what do you mean the so-called Quint? There are 5 countries so it is a quint. This is not something disputable. Its a fact. You can't put your bias everywhere.
Also nice to see the usual bitterness of the Serbs. Its short lived however. If new elections where to be held withing a month or two that would secure Thaci another term since neither of the other parties are prepared for elections and are in disarray at this moment. It would be an easy victory for Thaci.
Yes written from a member of the new dream state. I hope you have a problem with that.
Denis, already answered to u once to ur heidi story and my view on the snake and the albanians, u have a poor short memory...
PS, a hint for u:
my parents' neibghour is an albanian family, we have very often coffee together, guess why...
My uncle legaly employs albanians, guess why...
I have a lot of diplomats friends, guess why...
Now b my guest and make ur Heidi story !!
all this "stepping down" talk is evidence that k albanians never imagined they would be talking to serbia without the US present speaking on behalf of the k albanians.
fear and confusion has set in and no one wants to take credit for the consessions k albanians will be required to give.
practice makes perfect!! lets face it k albanians have not negotiated for themselves re: kosovo in a long time. just the thought of these guys sitting across from boris and vuk keeps fatmir and thaci awake all night...lets go boys ..man up!!
"If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
(nikshala, 30 September 2010 16:59)"
I must have missed the list of compromises somewhere. Please enlighten all of us. What has Pristina given up so far?
(Patrik)
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Don't expect an answer, her foot will remain in the mouth.
funny to have you dealing with our politicians!
Thaci was elected by the people of kosovo,and you have no say here§
As for Surroi,he is,for us albanians, a pur product of serbian state,so do not even try to say he is bright or suitable for our state:he is suitable for your state,taht makes quite a difference!The time of what we in kosovo,call the titists is gonewith you!
as for this news,it's just a serbian provocation to create troubles in kosovo!But no chance,we do know where we are going ,and certainly not toward serbia!
As I have posted numerous times, until the KLA'ers in Pristina, that know only how to act with force and or corruption, are gone, and more educated and politically knowledgeable representatives replace them, the deadlock in Kosovo will remain. I believe the West has realized this too, and has given Seidju and Thaci walking papers. Two top officials resigning in Pristina in less than a week, sounds a little fishy to me. In any case, this is the best possible thing to happen for the Kosovo Albanians. We all know that the US/EU does the talking and bidding for Pristina. Many compromises will have to be made by the Albanians during negotiations, maybe even status, and these resignations will save face for these KLA heros. As for who will replace them, no, not Kurti, it will be some unknowns that Eulex can completely control. Just think about it, Haradinaj in the Hague, Seidju had a constitutional conflict, Thaci resigns over the handling over the handling of the phone service, and last I read, Ceku was in Massachusetts, pleading for money from the Albanian diaspora. Good luck Kosovo, you will need it, but remember, your so-called independence was made possible by America, they controlled it from the start, and they will control it till the end. But it looks like Tadic has become their new golden boy.
Looks like The Snake will be getting his retirement watch earlier than he thought, maybe the one they stole from Bush? The Pristina politicos are dropping like flies, and the US/EU are holding the swatter. What an interesting turn of events.
Thaci resigning? Not a big loss. But indeed, who will follow him? There's a huge lack of reputable politicians in the independent dream state of Kosovo.
It is pretty amusing to see the serb camp cheering on the news about Thaci's possible resignation without understanding the implications.
If there is a resignation it will only be for the purpose of having quick elecations so Thaci can win again whilst the opposition is weak!
Another point - if you think that by having an elecation the Kosovan population will vote for a type of leader that will negotiate with Serbia and accept something less than independence - then you are seriously misinformed and have no understanding of the situation in Kosovo whatsoever. If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
You guys have no idea about the Kosovo politics (particularly you Winston). Anyway, good that you express. But please let aside the hatred language. It does not help to anyone.
Goodness me, first the "president" and now the "prime minister"? Things are just not going too well for "the world's newest state" are they?
When is someone going to finally break the news to the people of Kosovo that the party is over? These joke, so-called, "politicians" are literally the laughing stock of European politics.
Something is boiling down the surface but we don't know yet. If early elections are to be held what's the difference? If their resignation has been one of Serbia's conditions for the talks than who would Serbia rather talk to? Kurti?!
Yes, the question is who will come after, the same thugs with another blood teinted suit or finally some decent politicians that will put the well being of their people before their own grid...
In any case, good to see that this criminal will eventualy disappear from the front scene..
(The Swiss, 30 September 2010 18:22)
And you know all this stuff about criminals .... how exactly? I think the Hague has never accused Thaci of anything, or are we to trust your gut feelings over the opinion of Hague tribunal. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of criminals in kosovo, and I have no simpathy for Thaci, yet seems like your intentions are sinister towards Albanians in general rather then Thaci.
Are you one of those swiss who along with Heidi stories also likes the tails of everything Serbian media/propaganda has to say. I mean they were talking about terrorists 10 yrs ago, but guess who digged the mass graves and did the mass murdering, expulsions, and burning in Kosovo??..... yeah I know what u are thinking .... NATO did....lol
"The same sources said Thaci met with ambassadors of the so-called Quint today"
-- B92 what do you mean the so-called Quint? There are 5 countries so it is a quint. This is not something disputable. Its a fact. You can't put your bias everywhere.
Also nice to see the usual bitterness of the Serbs. Its short lived however. If new elections where to be held withing a month or two that would secure Thaci another term since neither of the other parties are prepared for elections and are in disarray at this moment. It would be an easy victory for Thaci.
Yes written from a member of the new dream state. I hope you have a problem with that.
These joke, so-called, "politicians" are literally the laughing stock of European politics.
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Naturally this must be true since it's coming from the premier political scientist of this forum.
Btw...speaking of laughing stock, I'm willing to bet that many Poles would probably agree that your ex-prime minister was far more ridiculous and embarrassing than Thaci & Co. could ever manage to be.
I'd say Veton Surroi is just about to get a boost. He is the only person I can think of being suitable considering his father was the Yugoslav ambassador to Spain (and some Latin American countries). He is fluent in Serbian also (but so are many other Kosovo Albanians).
(Zoran, 30 September 2010 16:24)
Surroi is a bright individual, but he is no diffrerent from other politicians in Kosovo when it comes to Independence.
Serbia simply just has build no credit in that place. It has been such a negative force for K-Albanians, that literaly no K-Alb supports a return under Serbian rule/border, even those who did well in the times of Yugoslavia and were integrated into serbian society, like Surroi, or Pacolli, and other successful businessmen. I think that everyone agrees, if Milo wouldn't have revoked autonomy in 1989 Kosovo had no chance to go this far.
Surroi indeed has been one of the best proponents of independence and one of the most effective ones.
I think you should only blame urselves, you had a great chance to build a bridge of peace and stability with Albanians through Kosovo, where Serbs and Albanians were good neigbors, allies and economic partners, but Serbia preferred to serve its nationalistic passions more than it's regional coperation needs/interests.
Thaci will only resign if it suits his political career and interests of PDK - i.e. early elections within next couple of months might be exactly what PDK needs because Haradinaj is still in Hague and Albin Kurti's fast growing support is not to the level required to win an election. LDK are all over the place as well.
Having an election before negotations with the serbs beging means that their popularity will not be damaged by further concessions to Serbia which are bound to happen with the current leadership.
This way, they get to ensure that they can stay in power for another 5 years (albeit in a coalition).
I think the west wants Thaci to remain in power because in my opinion he is their pawn and listens to them. Most current PDK - LDK policiants in power are corrupt and thus easily manipulated by the internationals. This means that they put their own interests before that of the general population.
I cannot wait to see the back of the current ruling parties and I will vote for anyone but the current thiefs.
Who will follow? Based on the current popularity of certain parties in Kosovo, it will likely be somebody ever worse. And I wonder if the resignations were done so this other party can be elected and do the dirty work that the other parties want to do, but don't want to be seen doing.
(By comparison, Republika Srpska is performing phenomenally!)
LOOOL, yeah I heard the European Commission is gathering urgently to try containing this emerging industrial Superpower whose sole economy consist of Dodik's corrupted family mafia firms....
I'd say Veton Surroi is just about to get a boost. He is the only person I can think of being suitable considering his father was the Yugoslav ambassador to Spain (and some Latin American countries). He is fluent in Serbian also (but so are many other Kosovo Albanians).
In Iraq: After holding elections (6) months ago, they've been unable to form a government there since. The country is in chaos!
In Afghanistan: They just held elections mired w/ widespread fraud, where nearly 1/4 of the polling stations were closed, while less than 30% of the registered voters voted.
Afghanistan is in Chaos, even more so than Iraq.
In Bosnia: the existing BH Federation Gov't is bankrupt & falling apart, and the upcoming scheduled elections are expected to change nothing. (By comparison, Republika Srpska is performing phenomenally!)
In Kosovo: the interim Albanian NWO puppet Gov't is verging on collapse, while the economy there is virtually non-existent (the biggest export is scrap metal for gods sake!).
What do all of these places have in common? They all represent failed USA/NWO attempts at "democratic nation building". It seems that the only thing America is capable of building in these places are Welfare-Dependent-Ghettoized-Societies, whose inhabitants are easily controlled, and administered by utter incompetents. This is especially true in Kosovo: as I understand it, Hashim Thaci didn't even graduate
High School!
Hence, the USA/NWO aren't empowering anyone, they're just creating more slaves, and there's nothing "Independent"
about that.
"If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
(nikshala, 30 September 2010 16:59)"
I must have missed the list of compromises somewhere. Please enlighten all of us. What has Pristina given up so far?
Yes, the question is who will come after, the same thugs with another blood teinted suit or finally some decent politicians that will put the well being of their people before their own grid...
In any case, good to see that this criminal will eventualy disappear from the front scene..
As I said in another post before reading this article. "time to pay the piper". The west expects real compromise. Tadic realized that. If Thaci won't do it, someone else will step in.
I have to stand back a minute and carefully interpret this a little more analytically assuming the news are true and Thaci really is resigning.
For Serbs this could actually be a bad thing as far as defence of Kosovo is concerned. If Kosovo were to get a more legitimate leader(s) (i.e. no KLA connections, no blood on their hands, no nationalist) then this will look good in the eyes of the int. community so more recognitions may come as well as investment. Such a leader would be more willing to negotiate but only on technical issues, which will eventually "water down" the whole status issue over time. This will not be good for Serbia. I can't say how easy or even possible it is to find such a leader in Kosovo though.
On the other hand if another nationalist wins then this will be good for Serbia as it will make Kosovo still remain a state in the "not ready" mode. It will keep slowing down recognitions and investment and will eventually have the K-Albs turn against US as their promised new born state will be in ruin.
It is in Serbia's interest to keep Kosovo leaders as hardline and nationalist as possible, this makes Serbs look like the nice guys, willing to talk, cooperate etc while pointing the fingers at K-Albs for being stubborn. Whoever is elected though will no doubt be a US/EULEX puppet so no changes there as well as in the standards of living for the people of Kosovo.
funny to have you dealing with our politicians!
Thaci was elected by the people of kosovo,and you have no say here§
As for Surroi,he is,for us albanians, a pur product of serbian state,so do not even try to say he is bright or suitable for our state:he is suitable for your state,taht makes quite a difference!The time of what we in kosovo,call the titists is gonewith you!
as for this news,it's just a serbian provocation to create troubles in kosovo!But no chance,we do know where we are going ,and certainly not toward serbia!
I'll grant you that, the Xerox brothers were truly a massive embarassment for Poland in terms of many things, but at least they don't have any criminal activities behind their name, such as stated in the following articles regarding Hashim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and other prominent mobsters, their links with other mobsters and their activities:
So I guess it's a matter of taste whether it is more embarassing to have two little paranoid potatoes at the helm of a country, or an organized mafia, but I go for number two personally.
Well my first response at reading this is: "hit the road Jack, and don't come back." But this is immediately followed by another set of questions:
Like everything that's been going on in Kosovo this week, why now? Why resign now? Is the EULEX corruption sweep THAT effective?
And I completely agree with nikshala when he says that Thaci would not resign unless it suited his interests. Who will replace him? Another crony? We can cheer for Surroi, but he's unfortunately a marginal figure in Kosovo's politics.
all this "stepping down" talk is evidence that k albanians never imagined they would be talking to serbia without the US present speaking on behalf of the k albanians.
fear and confusion has set in and no one wants to take credit for the consessions k albanians will be required to give.
practice makes perfect!! lets face it k albanians have not negotiated for themselves re: kosovo in a long time. just the thought of these guys sitting across from boris and vuk keeps fatmir and thaci awake all night...lets go boys ..man up!!
Hence, the USA/NWO aren't empowering anyone, they're just creating more slaves, and there's nothing "Independent"
about that.
(Rod, 30 September 2010 18:51)
Rod,
So eloquently written. When put in this context it is so easy to see the failures of this band of rogues, (Blair, Bush, Clinton, Merkel & Co.
Denis, already answered to u once to ur heidi story and my view on the snake and the albanians, u have a poor short memory...
PS, a hint for u:
my parents' neibghour is an albanian family, we have very often coffee together, guess why...
My uncle legaly employs albanians, guess why...
I have a lot of diplomats friends, guess why...
Now b my guest and make ur Heidi story !!
So I guess it's a matter of taste whether it is more embarassing to have two little paranoid potatoes at the helm of a country, or an organized mafia, but I go for number two personally.
(Peter Sudyka, 1 October 2010 09:06)
Excellent sources! Thanks for providing this.
Nobody knows what will happen. However, US history has many examples of puppet leaders who've been forced out of power by the US. Noriega in Panama is an excellent example of one such leader who ended up in UP prison after being on the US payroll. Thaci and Sedju (spelling?) are US puppets. The US helped write the Kosovo constitution. Kosovo is no more than a US puppet state. It does what its lords tell it to do. There are no surprises or autonomous decisions when it comes to a puppet state. There are no accidents here. These two must have been doing something the US didn't like and now they are being forced into early retirement. They should consider themselves lucky if they don't follow Noreiga's fate.
"It is in Serbia's interest to keep Kosovo leaders as hardline and nationalist as possible, this makes Serbs look like the nice guys, willing to talk, cooperate etc while pointing the fingers at K-Albs for being stubborn.
(DJ MeHighLow, 30 September 2010 22:49)
I agree, but don't forget one thing: It's the people of Kosovo who have to elect their leaders. Let's see if they will vote for similar persons (or even for more nationalistic ones) and drive themselves into international isolation.
"If anything, the general feeling is that our leaders have compromised way more than they should have and they have been pretty poor at standing up to Serbia.
(nikshala, 30 September 2010 16:59)"
I must have missed the list of compromises somewhere. Please enlighten all of us. What has Pristina given up so far?
(Patrik)
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