President: New provocation from Priština

"Serbian President Boris Tadić called the destruction of the Telekom Srbija's property in Kosovo 'a new kind of provocation'."

-- While I agree with Tadic that this unnecessary act will complicate, if not altogether postpone, the upcoming talks, this is just the statement Pristina wants to hear to they can accuse him of "politicizing" the situation, and even possibly scuttling the upcoming talks that they seem unprepared for.

However at the same time, if Tadic also says

“We are convinced that the state-owned carrier has all the rights and licenses necessary for its operation, properly obtained in the second half of the nineties",

then he needs to show immediate proof that

a) a license exists, and
b) said lisence is in order within some acceptible legal framework.

If not, as much as I'd like to believe him, it's Belgrade's word against Pristina's, and right now, Pristina's the one doing the damage.

Is the ITU an agency of the UN? Yes.

Is Serbia a member of the ITU? Yes.

Is Kosovo a member of the ITU? Never.

These instances of telecommunication equipment destruction is an internal matter of Serbia that must be administered by the UN/EULEX properly or those agencies will be found in dereliction of their duties.

Serbia can probably initiate arbitration between it and EULEX under ITU statutes.

“We are convinced that the state-owned carrier has all the rights and licenses necessary for its operation, properly obtained in the second half of the nineties", Tadić told reporters during his visit to Sombor.


"second half of the nineties"
I assume he is talking about 1995-98. Does Tadic beleive his own words about this?

I assume Tadic and SuNATOvac had to harmonise these statements with the EU before releasing them. That explains the delay.

"...licences properly obtained in the second half of the nineties".

Who gave the licences? Were these licences eternal? It is all a joke to get political credits from Serbian side. I don't believe in any real talks with Serbia unless it recognises Kosovo first.

What has Kosovo become? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11417814.

How many are actually working in Kosovo, and what are they doing? All signs are pointing to the fact that Belgrade will be regaining control of Kosovo-Pristina. All in which is starting now.

No one has ever cared for the people of Kosovo, whether your Serb, Serb of (albanian-decent) or Roma.

"The authorities do not have the funding, capacity, resources or political will to ensure a sustainable return for returnees”

End Quote Sian Jones Amnesty International's expert on Kosovo-
-
Kosovo doesnt have enough funding/political will OR even the ABILITY to help their own, nevermind Romas coming from EU.

Looks like to me EU is using Kosovo as a "dump" for unwanted migrants in their nations. Good Job my fellow Serbo-albano brothers and sisters, look at what you have done to this beautiful land.

no talks.. no settlement of the status or "technical issues" has served the k albanian people well..how else you gonna get the money, sympathy, empathy and attention from the west?

OF course they will make every effort to keep tensions high and keep the status quo as is.

it will soon be up to k albanians to show leadership and teach the serbian language in all kosovo schools ..make every effort to bring back the 225,000 serbs who fled, offer serbian tv-radio and newspapers to everyone in kosovo and prove to the world kosovo is as much serbian as it is albanian...we will be waiting !!

this was a practice run by albanian irregular forces in kosovo to see how fast they can severe communication lines with the serbian majority regions. it was also to some degree a test of the reaction of the serbian authorities, the reaction was as expected-the serbian armed forces will not react and serbias ruling elite will do nothing.

the telecommunications lines will be restrored very quickly, but the next time they are severed the remaining serbs in kosovo will be under assault.

If you want to operate in another country you must have a license.Serbian Telekom must have license issued by Kosova,it is very simple.
Want to do bussines in Kosovo?Get a license from Kosovo authorities.The same for kosovars who want to do bussines in Serbia.
Fair Play!

I don't believe in any real talks with Serbia unless it recognises Kosovo first.
(EA, 28 September 2010 22:05)

So Georgia must recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia first before talks can occur?

"If you want to operate in another country you must have a license.Serbian Telekom must have license issued by Kosova,it is very simple. Fair Play!
(Mirel from Albania, 28 September 2010 23:19)

You are right. The only problem is the status of Kosovo being a country. That's the problem: Is Kosovo "another country" or not?

"...licences properly obtained in the second half of the nineties".

The 90s..really? I'm sure that license was given by Yugoslavia (now defunct).

O hey guys, I'm not going to pay my taxes, because that one time 20 years ago I paid X & Y like 5 bucks. Thanks.

If Telecom Srbja wants to operate they have to be licensed by Tele. Regulation Agency (TRA). Full stop.

"Today we are making every attempt to prevent such provocations and to re-enable telecommunication systems so that telephone signal could reach all citizens living in Kosovo, regardless of ethnicity", Tadić said.

-- Where do you live sir. There is telephone signal that does reach all of the citizens living in Kosova. This has nothing to do with the existence of telephone signal. What you mean is signal from one specific company. That's a different matter.

On the license issue here that Tadic says they have it because they obtained in the second half of the 90's.

That is indicative that they have no licence. They gave themselves a licence in the second half of the 90's, cutting Kosova into pieces and giving some of those pieces to FYROM, sending tanks, airplanes, army, police units, and state-uniformed prisoners. Things have changed radically since the mid 90's. Whatever permission you gave yourselves is no longer valid. There are new sheriffs in town. Until you come to grips with that fact, a Belgrade address and a permission given to yourself which is no even worth the paper its printed on are no longer a free pass to do whatever you want in Kosova. Get with a program. You sign a contract (which doesn't necessarily have to involve money exchange) you can operate. If you do not want to do that, then complain all you want. Simple as that.

Any license obtained in the 90's would have been invalidated with Res 1244. UNMIK has already stated that they were operating illegally in Kosovo prior to DOI.

The point here is that Tadic is incapable in responding in any way apart from pleas to the west and pious words.
Capitulation occured a few weeks ago.He is now in their pockets.Shame that a once proud people are led by this rabble..
They continue to cover their tracks but the game will be up soon when status talks will not take place.
Tadic is craven weak and not being honest with the Serb people.
When the pograms start in Mitrovica he will again appeal for dialogue and seek the assistance of countries who not only don't care but will turn a blind eye.
It's a shorter distance from Mitrovica and the north to Serbia than Krajina was.God help those Serbs in the south!

You are right. The only problem is the status of Kosovo being a country. That's the problem: Is Kosovo "another country" or not?
(Top, 29 September 2010 11:24)

That is not a problem at all. If your goal is to have signal, you enter into a contract with the regulating agency in Kosova. It doesn't necessarily mean now you think Kosova is a country, especially since you're a company and not a government. If your goal is to make sure you prove a political point; well then you have no signal. Simple. The choice is between politics or signal. Serbia has chosen politics. Well keep it, then.

"...licences properly obtained in the second half of the nineties".

Who gave the licences? Were these licences eternal? It is all a joke to get political credits from Serbian side. I don't believe in any real talks with Serbia unless it recognises Kosovo first.

no talks.. no settlement of the status or "technical issues" has served the k albanian people well..how else you gonna get the money, sympathy, empathy and attention from the west?

OF course they will make every effort to keep tensions high and keep the status quo as is.

it will soon be up to k albanians to show leadership and teach the serbian language in all kosovo schools ..make every effort to bring back the 225,000 serbs who fled, offer serbian tv-radio and newspapers to everyone in kosovo and prove to the world kosovo is as much serbian as it is albanian...we will be waiting !!

“We are convinced that the state-owned carrier has all the rights and licenses necessary for its operation, properly obtained in the second half of the nineties", Tadić told reporters during his visit to Sombor.


"second half of the nineties"
I assume he is talking about 1995-98. Does Tadic beleive his own words about this?

What has Kosovo become? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11417814.

How many are actually working in Kosovo, and what are they doing? All signs are pointing to the fact that Belgrade will be regaining control of Kosovo-Pristina. All in which is starting now.

No one has ever cared for the people of Kosovo, whether your Serb, Serb of (albanian-decent) or Roma.

"The authorities do not have the funding, capacity, resources or political will to ensure a sustainable return for returnees”

End Quote Sian Jones Amnesty International's expert on Kosovo-
-
Kosovo doesnt have enough funding/political will OR even the ABILITY to help their own, nevermind Romas coming from EU.

Looks like to me EU is using Kosovo as a "dump" for unwanted migrants in their nations. Good Job my fellow Serbo-albano brothers and sisters, look at what you have done to this beautiful land.

Is the ITU an agency of the UN? Yes.

Is Serbia a member of the ITU? Yes.

Is Kosovo a member of the ITU? Never.

These instances of telecommunication equipment destruction is an internal matter of Serbia that must be administered by the UN/EULEX properly or those agencies will be found in dereliction of their duties.

Serbia can probably initiate arbitration between it and EULEX under ITU statutes.

I assume Tadic and SuNATOvac had to harmonise these statements with the EU before releasing them. That explains the delay.

"Today we are making every attempt to prevent such provocations and to re-enable telecommunication systems so that telephone signal could reach all citizens living in Kosovo, regardless of ethnicity", Tadić said.

-- Where do you live sir. There is telephone signal that does reach all of the citizens living in Kosova. This has nothing to do with the existence of telephone signal. What you mean is signal from one specific company. That's a different matter.

On the license issue here that Tadic says they have it because they obtained in the second half of the 90's.

That is indicative that they have no licence. They gave themselves a licence in the second half of the 90's, cutting Kosova into pieces and giving some of those pieces to FYROM, sending tanks, airplanes, army, police units, and state-uniformed prisoners. Things have changed radically since the mid 90's. Whatever permission you gave yourselves is no longer valid. There are new sheriffs in town. Until you come to grips with that fact, a Belgrade address and a permission given to yourself which is no even worth the paper its printed on are no longer a free pass to do whatever you want in Kosova. Get with a program. You sign a contract (which doesn't necessarily have to involve money exchange) you can operate. If you do not want to do that, then complain all you want. Simple as that.

"...licences properly obtained in the second half of the nineties".

The 90s..really? I'm sure that license was given by Yugoslavia (now defunct).

O hey guys, I'm not going to pay my taxes, because that one time 20 years ago I paid X & Y like 5 bucks. Thanks.

If Telecom Srbja wants to operate they have to be licensed by Tele. Regulation Agency (TRA). Full stop.

I don't believe in any real talks with Serbia unless it recognises Kosovo first.
(EA, 28 September 2010 22:05)

So Georgia must recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia first before talks can occur?

Any license obtained in the 90's would have been invalidated with Res 1244. UNMIK has already stated that they were operating illegally in Kosovo prior to DOI.

"Serbian President Boris Tadić called the destruction of the Telekom Srbija's property in Kosovo 'a new kind of provocation'."

-- While I agree with Tadic that this unnecessary act will complicate, if not altogether postpone, the upcoming talks, this is just the statement Pristina wants to hear to they can accuse him of "politicizing" the situation, and even possibly scuttling the upcoming talks that they seem unprepared for.

However at the same time, if Tadic also says

“We are convinced that the state-owned carrier has all the rights and licenses necessary for its operation, properly obtained in the second half of the nineties",

then he needs to show immediate proof that

a) a license exists, and
b) said lisence is in order within some acceptible legal framework.

If not, as much as I'd like to believe him, it's Belgrade's word against Pristina's, and right now, Pristina's the one doing the damage.

If you want to operate in another country you must have a license.Serbian Telekom must have license issued by Kosova,it is very simple.
Want to do bussines in Kosovo?Get a license from Kosovo authorities.The same for kosovars who want to do bussines in Serbia.
Fair Play!

this was a practice run by albanian irregular forces in kosovo to see how fast they can severe communication lines with the serbian majority regions. it was also to some degree a test of the reaction of the serbian authorities, the reaction was as expected-the serbian armed forces will not react and serbias ruling elite will do nothing.

the telecommunications lines will be restrored very quickly, but the next time they are severed the remaining serbs in kosovo will be under assault.

You are right. The only problem is the status of Kosovo being a country. That's the problem: Is Kosovo "another country" or not?
(Top, 29 September 2010 11:24)

That is not a problem at all. If your goal is to have signal, you enter into a contract with the regulating agency in Kosova. It doesn't necessarily mean now you think Kosova is a country, especially since you're a company and not a government. If your goal is to make sure you prove a political point; well then you have no signal. Simple. The choice is between politics or signal. Serbia has chosen politics. Well keep it, then.

"If you want to operate in another country you must have a license.Serbian Telekom must have license issued by Kosova,it is very simple. Fair Play!
(Mirel from Albania, 28 September 2010 23:19)

You are right. The only problem is the status of Kosovo being a country. That's the problem: Is Kosovo "another country" or not?

The point here is that Tadic is incapable in responding in any way apart from pleas to the west and pious words.
Capitulation occured a few weeks ago.He is now in their pockets.Shame that a once proud people are led by this rabble..
They continue to cover their tracks but the game will be up soon when status talks will not take place.
Tadic is craven weak and not being honest with the Serb people.
When the pograms start in Mitrovica he will again appeal for dialogue and seek the assistance of countries who not only don't care but will turn a blind eye.
It's a shorter distance from Mitrovica and the north to Serbia than Krajina was.God help those Serbs in the south!