“Long process of normalization”

He must refer to the current generation of Kosovo politians, with a lot of them being former KLA fighters. As long as Kosovo doesn't clean itself from those people, the negotiations will be hard.
(Top, 28 September 2010 11:05)

Top, it takes two to tango.
Until Serbia keeps the same attitude towards Kosovo, the “nationalists” will be governing Kosovo (be it former KLA fighters or not).
What I am trying to say (I know that you will most likely disagree, but hey this is what democracy is about) is that no matter who leads Kosovo, the attitude (hostility) that Serbia shows (has done and still does) towards Kosovo will “force” our leaders to become “nationalists”.
B.T.W. Top, as far as I know neither the late Rugova nor Fatmir Sejdiu were linked to KLA.
It is as simple as that Top.
Change your attitude we’ll change ours.
Don’t interfere with our internal issues, don’t try to sabotage our work, don’t put fuel on a fire that we are trying to put down … and well stop being a thorn in your eye.
You want to help Serbs in Kosovo, talk to Kosovo Albanians.
You don’t want to help Serbs in Kosovo, keep on doing what you have been doing so far (continue Milosevic's path).
History will prove one of us right.
One mote note Top.
You say that the present Serbian leadership is different!!!
Sorry Top, does not look like that from where I’m standing.
It is the continuation of the same nationalist politic that Milosevic had.
It is the same politics that brought mayhem in Kosovo (and YU).
It is the same politics that brought the independent Kosovo as the only solution.
The only difference between Tadic and Milosevic is that Tadic does not have the military power threat that Milosevic had.
So Top, Tadic is simply a Milosevic with teeth filed a bit (no real bite but still rabid).

To my best knowledge, Kosovo will be a full EU-member by 2012 the 11th of July at precise 12:00 hours (a few showers otherwize nice wheater). Romania will be out and have most of her citizens in the EU repatriated and Serbia will abandon "the only way" for better alliances further east.

Bla bla bla and bla! Nothing but rubish from yet another rebel albanian.

Kosovo may participate in the London olympics under a pirat flag.

I truly hope Kosovo remains isolated for a long long time.

'Kosovo' wants to participate in the 2012 Olympic games!?

When did human trafficking and heroin smuggling become Olympic events?

KLA was a popular movement. If you can't talk with those that were in the KLA you cannot talk with us; any of us. Each one of us had family members in the KLA. If you can't do that then you are going to have a big problem for a long time. If you can't accept that fact you're gonna be doing a lot of talking to yourselves. We chose our representatives not you.

“If this generation of politicians does not solve the issue of relations between Serbia and Kosovo, the next one will have to solve it because the negotiations that the dialogue is beginning with will have to set foundations of a normalization process that will last at least ten years,” Surroi explained.

He must refer to the current generation of Kosovo politians, with a lot of them being former KLA fighters. As long as Kosovo doesn't clean itself from those people, the negotiations will be hard. Of course, in Serbia there are some people of yesterday, too. But in general, Serbia already had the change, with politicians like Tadic, who have not been in any way envolved in the evil deeds happened in the past.

“Here’s an example that could be quickly solved, for example if Belgrade agreed to let Kosovo participate in the Olympic Games in London in 2012, at least under the Olympic flag,” Surroi pointed out.

What will Kosovo offer Belgrade in return?

What "normalization"? Serbia will continue to dispute the self declared independence of Kosovo, some countries will recognize it and other countries will not. Ultimately, Belgrade and Pristina will just agree to disagree, Serbia will refuse to engage in any trade and Kosovo will have to look elsewhere for support. Serbia will continue to increase trade with other nations. Will be interesting to see how far Pristina will "negotiate" to prevent this potentially unpleasant future from happening.

Surroi stated that now former Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci had a right to attend enthronement of the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Irinej in Peć
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Thaci should really be behind bars for acts of terrorism and the destruction of Serbian Orthodox churches. He belongs nowhere near the enthronement.

Now replace the current criminals in Pristina with fresh, cool headed and non-criminal politicians then we can talk about attending religious events. Thaci and the gang will slow the whole negotiation process down. It's time to give them the boot.

Thaci attending the Serbian patriarch's enthronement in Kosovo would be a sacrilege. He has absolutely no business at this sacred Serbian event. The snake was murdering Serbs in Kosovo not too long ago, remember?

Surroi defined northern Kosovo, where majority of population is Serb, as Kosovo's issue “just like Northern Cyprus is Cyprus' issue“.
--
More accurately, KiM to Serbia is just like Northern Cyprus to Cyprus. Even Cyprus supports Serbia on this one.

Unless you get those 45 recognitions, then 'normalization' can only mean RE-INTEGRATION bc normal relations between an unrecognized province & a recognized state are centralized to some degree

I have stated many times on this sight, there is no way that Belgrade will sit down with a KLA terrorist, to negotiate anything. Serbia has an arrest warrant out for Thaci, among others, for war crimes. He was terrorizing, torturing, and murdering Serbs a decade ago - does anyone in their right mind think that Belgrade will sit at the same table with this butcher? Would the K Albanians ever have sat down and talked with Milosevic?

If they were in power in Belgrade today, would you sit at the same table as Arkan's Tigers, or Seselj's White Eagles? You guys need better popular movements.
(Mike, 28 September 2010 20:56)

Since I forgot to write it earlier.

Mike we did sit at the same table with those. Your memory seems to be short. Prior to '99 Rrugova was begging Milosevic to restore autonomy and sit on the table with him. Not only that; you had the prime minister of Albania doing the same thing and sitting on the table with Milosevic in Athens while he had sent in troops and was killing our people. He not only begged for autonomy but declared that the capital of Kosova is Belgrade. You guys have wasted so many chances, because you always overdo, overreact, and of course neglect those you deem inferior. The point is that the people who beg for talks are not in a position to pick who they talk to. You talk with the people who lead the other side. That is why through Rrugova and through Nano we talked to Milosevic even though we knew that he and Seselj sent troops to kill our people. Refresh your memory a little bit. Get out of Belgrade's grip a little bit.

"if Belgrade agreed to let Kosovo participate in the Olympic Games in London in 2012, at least under the Olympic flag,”
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That is pretty much an admission that "Kosova" is not independent. Only non-states participate under the Olympic flag, however, they need Serbia's permission to do so.

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Surroi stated that now former Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci had a right to attend enthronement of the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Irinej in Pec on October 3.
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It is so arrogant that this Surroi makes such a statement, but not surprising. Why would people who destroyed Serbian Orthodox Churches, killed Serbs, and stole Serbian land have any right to attend the enthronement of a Serbian Orthodox Patriarch.

It is one thing to suggest that the Orthodox church should allow them to attend, but to say that it is their right is ludicrous. When I say it is one thing to suggest that they should be allowed, I don't actually think that those theives and murderers should be allowed, I am just saying that it wouldn't be such a ludicrous statement for him to say that. But to say it is their right makes no sense at all.

Their arrogance is just ridiculous. They have such delusions of grandeur for people that would not have had even the slightest hope in stealing Serbian land without the help of foreign oppressors.

"Top, it takes two to tango. Until Serbia keeps the same attitude towards Kosovo, the “nationalists” will be governing Kosovo (be it former KLA fighters or not). What I am trying to say (I know that you will most likely disagree, but hey this is what democracy is about) is that no matter who leads Kosovo, the attitude (hostility) that Serbia shows (has done and still does) towards Kosovo will “force” our leaders to become “nationalists”."
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 September 2010 12:51)

No, I totally agree with you that it takes two. And I agree, too, that hostility leads to nationalism. But that's mutual. Do you think that, for example, it's helpful to destroy Telekom infrastructure in Serb populated areas just before negotiations are scheduled? It only sparks new toruble and hostility.

"B.T.W. Top, as far as I know neither the late Rugova nor Fatmir Sejdiu were linked to KLA."
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 September 2010 12:51)
I know, and I wished Kosovo had more politicians like these (an less Thacis, Haridinajs, Kurtis...)

You say that the present Serbian leadership is different!!! Sorry Top, does not look like that from where I’m standing. It is the continuation of the same nationalist politic that Milosevic had.
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 September 2010 12:51)

I don't agree to that, at all, the current (and previous) Serbian government cannot compared to Milosevic at all. They even extradited him to the Hague. How more can the political leadership distance themselves from that era and persons? On the other hand, I just read that some Kosovo party wants to collect money for the "defense" of Haradinaj, the Kosovarian "hero" (who is, for me, as much a "hero" as Milosevic was)

"KLA was a popular movement. If you can't talk with those that were in the KLA you cannot talk with us" (johny)

-- If they were in power in Belgrade today, would you sit at the same table as Arkan's Tigers, or Seselj's White Eagles? You guys need better popular movements.

--It is the continuation of the same nationalist politic that Milosevic had.
It is the same politics that brought mayhem in Kosovo (and YU).
It is the same politics that brought the independent Kosovo as the only solution.
The only difference between Tadic and Milosevic is that Tadic does not have the military power threat that Milosevic had.
So Top, Tadic is simply a Milosevic with teeth filed a bit (no real bite but still rabid).
Gjergj Fishta--

thanks Gjergj, i agree with you 100%, as i have explained when allowed.

and i like and respect surroi, if from afar (haven't met him yet.) my good frnd (k-albanian) says that surroi does not hold the support of most of the people of kosova but i still admire him, and would like to see him as a VERY capable FM. more than a match for u no who. and i do feel he would have some more credibility with with non-albanians in kosova as well.

but as for thaci (and co), he was not and is not indicted by the hague, so that evidence for war crimes is not there. unlike mladic and co -- all well known, and the blgd regime harbors them. with a certain pride i might add. so which is the pro war-criminal regime? not to mention the thousands of "little" war criminals walking free and ez on the streets of blgd.

the biggest crime, as far as the other side is concerned, is the kla's fight for liberation ag. the serbia. i'm sure many britts felt the same way about our george washington, thomas paine, etc -- the "rebels" -- the "terrorists"... we felt/feel differently.

at any rate, glad to see that surroi is still out and about, and i wish him continued success.

roberto
frisco

I truly hope Kosovo remains isolated for a long long time.
(Mikael C, 28 September 2010 16:45)

In that case Serbs (and many others) will see no reason to remain there.

"KLA was a popular movement. If you can't talk with those that were in the KLA you cannot talk with us; any of us. Each one of us had family members in the KLA. (johny, 28 September 2010 18:46)

So much about distancing themselves from criminals. Well, a lot of Serbs are still proud to have supported and voted for Milosevic, too.

If it’ going to take “20 years to “normalise” relations then the Albos have nothing to celebrate at all. There is an old saying “one week is along time in politics” let alone 20 years.

I have written on numerous occasions of the impending crises in both the EU and US and was told its all in my imagination; I then quoted people that actually work in the major financial institutions and again told it was all nonsense. Now we have the EU turning to austerity measures to save themselves from bankruptcy and there are no guarantees that the EU will even survive and if it does it will certainly not be in this form. Initially the US would not change course until 2012, but that’s has also changed. The US has an even bigger problem than the EU.

20 years is too long for Kosovo to become truly independent – in fact the wheels will start to fall of by mid 2011 – money is the issue and there is no more of that left and with Kosovo having 97% unemployment and no prospects on the horizon for improvement; it does not take an average person to work out where its all heading to.

Let me say this; if Kosovo is to become independent then it has to happen in the next 12 months, maximum and that’s not going to happen. Time is running out fast for the Albos.

"Surroi defined northern Kosovo, where majority of population is Serb, as Kosovo's issue “just like Northern Cyprus is Cyprus' issue“.
--
"More accurately, KiM to Serbia is just like Northern Cyprus to Cyprus.
(Zoran, 28 September 2010 15:36)"

No Zoran, in fact, regardless of what may be lopsided "legalities" etc, Surroi is exactly correct with this parallel.

And while I happen to think that right is nore generally with the governments of Kosovo and of Cyprus, that should not be understood as condemning either of the northern statelets (of Serbs and of Turks) outright; on the contrary, there are clear historical reasons for their existence, and both suffered, even if again I happen to think the states that sponsored them (Serbia and Turkey) were responsible for a lot more suffering of the other majority pop'n in both cases (just my perspective).

Ultimately, whether or not you happen to agree with my perspective, however, the fact remains that in neither case can the statelet evolve into a full independent state, for the simple reason that the populations are not spread that way (or were not). Therefore, the solution in both cases is an independent bi-zonal, bi-communal federation (of Kosovo/a and of Cyprus), each representing the two historic nations present, in whatever numbers. Google 'Annan Plan for Cyprus' to read the solution for Kosovo/a.

“Here’s an example that could be quickly solved, for example if Belgrade agreed to let Kosovo participate in the Olympic Games in London in 2012, at least under the Olympic flag,” Surroi pointed out.
=====================
An idependent country does not ask for permission from another to participate in anything.
Next you will be asking Serbia to permit you to play in the World Soccer games.
Next will be Eurovision. The favours will never end.
How about "Kosova" just sit down and seriously negotiate with Serbia instead of playing silly games like vandalizing Telekom equipment, Serbian cemeteries and anything Serbian?
In other words, extend the hand of frienship and you might be pleasantly surprised.

To my best knowledge, Kosovo will be a full EU-member by 2012 the 11th of July at precise 12:00 hours (a few showers otherwize nice wheater). Romania will be out and have most of her citizens in the EU repatriated and Serbia will abandon "the only way" for better alliances further east.
(Mircea, 28 September 2010 13:49)


From your mouth to the God's ears inshalla :))

Let me say this; if Kosovo is to become independent then it has to happen in the next 12 months, maximum and that’s not going to happen. Time is running out fast for the Albos.
(sj, 29 September 2010 04:53)

If had a dime for everytime we have heard from Serbia and Serbs what we can't do, or will never do, cause you will not allow it, I would have really been a milionare.

20 yrs ago no one could believe that Kosovo would have been completely out of Serbian control and recognized as an independent state by some 70 countries...

If the time is running out for us, than why do u worry so much, I guess it is us that will pay for it....

One thing is for sure, we will never be ruled by Serbia again.

Bla bla bla and bla! Nothing but rubish from yet another rebel albanian.

Kosovo may participate in the London olympics under a pirat flag.

I truly hope Kosovo remains isolated for a long long time.

“If this generation of politicians does not solve the issue of relations between Serbia and Kosovo, the next one will have to solve it because the negotiations that the dialogue is beginning with will have to set foundations of a normalization process that will last at least ten years,” Surroi explained.

He must refer to the current generation of Kosovo politians, with a lot of them being former KLA fighters. As long as Kosovo doesn't clean itself from those people, the negotiations will be hard. Of course, in Serbia there are some people of yesterday, too. But in general, Serbia already had the change, with politicians like Tadic, who have not been in any way envolved in the evil deeds happened in the past.

He must refer to the current generation of Kosovo politians, with a lot of them being former KLA fighters. As long as Kosovo doesn't clean itself from those people, the negotiations will be hard.
(Top, 28 September 2010 11:05)

Top, it takes two to tango.
Until Serbia keeps the same attitude towards Kosovo, the “nationalists” will be governing Kosovo (be it former KLA fighters or not).
What I am trying to say (I know that you will most likely disagree, but hey this is what democracy is about) is that no matter who leads Kosovo, the attitude (hostility) that Serbia shows (has done and still does) towards Kosovo will “force” our leaders to become “nationalists”.
B.T.W. Top, as far as I know neither the late Rugova nor Fatmir Sejdiu were linked to KLA.
It is as simple as that Top.
Change your attitude we’ll change ours.
Don’t interfere with our internal issues, don’t try to sabotage our work, don’t put fuel on a fire that we are trying to put down … and well stop being a thorn in your eye.
You want to help Serbs in Kosovo, talk to Kosovo Albanians.
You don’t want to help Serbs in Kosovo, keep on doing what you have been doing so far (continue Milosevic's path).
History will prove one of us right.
One mote note Top.
You say that the present Serbian leadership is different!!!
Sorry Top, does not look like that from where I’m standing.
It is the continuation of the same nationalist politic that Milosevic had.
It is the same politics that brought mayhem in Kosovo (and YU).
It is the same politics that brought the independent Kosovo as the only solution.
The only difference between Tadic and Milosevic is that Tadic does not have the military power threat that Milosevic had.
So Top, Tadic is simply a Milosevic with teeth filed a bit (no real bite but still rabid).

Unless you get those 45 recognitions, then 'normalization' can only mean RE-INTEGRATION bc normal relations between an unrecognized province & a recognized state are centralized to some degree

Surroi stated that now former Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci had a right to attend enthronement of the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Irinej in Peć
--
Thaci should really be behind bars for acts of terrorism and the destruction of Serbian Orthodox churches. He belongs nowhere near the enthronement.

Now replace the current criminals in Pristina with fresh, cool headed and non-criminal politicians then we can talk about attending religious events. Thaci and the gang will slow the whole negotiation process down. It's time to give them the boot.

"Top, it takes two to tango. Until Serbia keeps the same attitude towards Kosovo, the “nationalists” will be governing Kosovo (be it former KLA fighters or not). What I am trying to say (I know that you will most likely disagree, but hey this is what democracy is about) is that no matter who leads Kosovo, the attitude (hostility) that Serbia shows (has done and still does) towards Kosovo will “force” our leaders to become “nationalists”."
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 September 2010 12:51)

No, I totally agree with you that it takes two. And I agree, too, that hostility leads to nationalism. But that's mutual. Do you think that, for example, it's helpful to destroy Telekom infrastructure in Serb populated areas just before negotiations are scheduled? It only sparks new toruble and hostility.

"B.T.W. Top, as far as I know neither the late Rugova nor Fatmir Sejdiu were linked to KLA."
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 September 2010 12:51)
I know, and I wished Kosovo had more politicians like these (an less Thacis, Haridinajs, Kurtis...)

You say that the present Serbian leadership is different!!! Sorry Top, does not look like that from where I’m standing. It is the continuation of the same nationalist politic that Milosevic had.
(Gjergj Fishta, 28 September 2010 12:51)

I don't agree to that, at all, the current (and previous) Serbian government cannot compared to Milosevic at all. They even extradited him to the Hague. How more can the political leadership distance themselves from that era and persons? On the other hand, I just read that some Kosovo party wants to collect money for the "defense" of Haradinaj, the Kosovarian "hero" (who is, for me, as much a "hero" as Milosevic was)

KLA was a popular movement. If you can't talk with those that were in the KLA you cannot talk with us; any of us. Each one of us had family members in the KLA. If you can't do that then you are going to have a big problem for a long time. If you can't accept that fact you're gonna be doing a lot of talking to yourselves. We chose our representatives not you.

I have stated many times on this sight, there is no way that Belgrade will sit down with a KLA terrorist, to negotiate anything. Serbia has an arrest warrant out for Thaci, among others, for war crimes. He was terrorizing, torturing, and murdering Serbs a decade ago - does anyone in their right mind think that Belgrade will sit at the same table with this butcher? Would the K Albanians ever have sat down and talked with Milosevic?

Surroi defined northern Kosovo, where majority of population is Serb, as Kosovo's issue “just like Northern Cyprus is Cyprus' issue“.
--
More accurately, KiM to Serbia is just like Northern Cyprus to Cyprus. Even Cyprus supports Serbia on this one.

'Kosovo' wants to participate in the 2012 Olympic games!?

When did human trafficking and heroin smuggling become Olympic events?

Thaci attending the Serbian patriarch's enthronement in Kosovo would be a sacrilege. He has absolutely no business at this sacred Serbian event. The snake was murdering Serbs in Kosovo not too long ago, remember?

“Here’s an example that could be quickly solved, for example if Belgrade agreed to let Kosovo participate in the Olympic Games in London in 2012, at least under the Olympic flag,” Surroi pointed out.

What will Kosovo offer Belgrade in return?

What "normalization"? Serbia will continue to dispute the self declared independence of Kosovo, some countries will recognize it and other countries will not. Ultimately, Belgrade and Pristina will just agree to disagree, Serbia will refuse to engage in any trade and Kosovo will have to look elsewhere for support. Serbia will continue to increase trade with other nations. Will be interesting to see how far Pristina will "negotiate" to prevent this potentially unpleasant future from happening.

"if Belgrade agreed to let Kosovo participate in the Olympic Games in London in 2012, at least under the Olympic flag,”
--
That is pretty much an admission that "Kosova" is not independent. Only non-states participate under the Olympic flag, however, they need Serbia's permission to do so.

--It is the continuation of the same nationalist politic that Milosevic had.
It is the same politics that brought mayhem in Kosovo (and YU).
It is the same politics that brought the independent Kosovo as the only solution.
The only difference between Tadic and Milosevic is that Tadic does not have the military power threat that Milosevic had.
So Top, Tadic is simply a Milosevic with teeth filed a bit (no real bite but still rabid).
Gjergj Fishta--

thanks Gjergj, i agree with you 100%, as i have explained when allowed.

and i like and respect surroi, if from afar (haven't met him yet.) my good frnd (k-albanian) says that surroi does not hold the support of most of the people of kosova but i still admire him, and would like to see him as a VERY capable FM. more than a match for u no who. and i do feel he would have some more credibility with with non-albanians in kosova as well.

but as for thaci (and co), he was not and is not indicted by the hague, so that evidence for war crimes is not there. unlike mladic and co -- all well known, and the blgd regime harbors them. with a certain pride i might add. so which is the pro war-criminal regime? not to mention the thousands of "little" war criminals walking free and ez on the streets of blgd.

the biggest crime, as far as the other side is concerned, is the kla's fight for liberation ag. the serbia. i'm sure many britts felt the same way about our george washington, thomas paine, etc -- the "rebels" -- the "terrorists"... we felt/feel differently.

at any rate, glad to see that surroi is still out and about, and i wish him continued success.

roberto
frisco

"KLA was a popular movement. If you can't talk with those that were in the KLA you cannot talk with us" (johny)

-- If they were in power in Belgrade today, would you sit at the same table as Arkan's Tigers, or Seselj's White Eagles? You guys need better popular movements.

To my best knowledge, Kosovo will be a full EU-member by 2012 the 11th of July at precise 12:00 hours (a few showers otherwize nice wheater). Romania will be out and have most of her citizens in the EU repatriated and Serbia will abandon "the only way" for better alliances further east.

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Surroi stated that now former Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu and PM Hashim Thaci had a right to attend enthronement of the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Irinej in Pec on October 3.
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It is so arrogant that this Surroi makes such a statement, but not surprising. Why would people who destroyed Serbian Orthodox Churches, killed Serbs, and stole Serbian land have any right to attend the enthronement of a Serbian Orthodox Patriarch.

It is one thing to suggest that the Orthodox church should allow them to attend, but to say that it is their right is ludicrous. When I say it is one thing to suggest that they should be allowed, I don't actually think that those theives and murderers should be allowed, I am just saying that it wouldn't be such a ludicrous statement for him to say that. But to say it is their right makes no sense at all.

Their arrogance is just ridiculous. They have such delusions of grandeur for people that would not have had even the slightest hope in stealing Serbian land without the help of foreign oppressors.

"KLA was a popular movement. If you can't talk with those that were in the KLA you cannot talk with us; any of us. Each one of us had family members in the KLA. (johny, 28 September 2010 18:46)

So much about distancing themselves from criminals. Well, a lot of Serbs are still proud to have supported and voted for Milosevic, too.

I truly hope Kosovo remains isolated for a long long time.
(Mikael C, 28 September 2010 16:45)

In that case Serbs (and many others) will see no reason to remain there.

"Surroi defined northern Kosovo, where majority of population is Serb, as Kosovo's issue “just like Northern Cyprus is Cyprus' issue“.
--
"More accurately, KiM to Serbia is just like Northern Cyprus to Cyprus.
(Zoran, 28 September 2010 15:36)"

No Zoran, in fact, regardless of what may be lopsided "legalities" etc, Surroi is exactly correct with this parallel.

And while I happen to think that right is nore generally with the governments of Kosovo and of Cyprus, that should not be understood as condemning either of the northern statelets (of Serbs and of Turks) outright; on the contrary, there are clear historical reasons for their existence, and both suffered, even if again I happen to think the states that sponsored them (Serbia and Turkey) were responsible for a lot more suffering of the other majority pop'n in both cases (just my perspective).

Ultimately, whether or not you happen to agree with my perspective, however, the fact remains that in neither case can the statelet evolve into a full independent state, for the simple reason that the populations are not spread that way (or were not). Therefore, the solution in both cases is an independent bi-zonal, bi-communal federation (of Kosovo/a and of Cyprus), each representing the two historic nations present, in whatever numbers. Google 'Annan Plan for Cyprus' to read the solution for Kosovo/a.

“Here’s an example that could be quickly solved, for example if Belgrade agreed to let Kosovo participate in the Olympic Games in London in 2012, at least under the Olympic flag,” Surroi pointed out.
=====================
An idependent country does not ask for permission from another to participate in anything.
Next you will be asking Serbia to permit you to play in the World Soccer games.
Next will be Eurovision. The favours will never end.
How about "Kosova" just sit down and seriously negotiate with Serbia instead of playing silly games like vandalizing Telekom equipment, Serbian cemeteries and anything Serbian?
In other words, extend the hand of frienship and you might be pleasantly surprised.

If it’ going to take “20 years to “normalise” relations then the Albos have nothing to celebrate at all. There is an old saying “one week is along time in politics” let alone 20 years.

I have written on numerous occasions of the impending crises in both the EU and US and was told its all in my imagination; I then quoted people that actually work in the major financial institutions and again told it was all nonsense. Now we have the EU turning to austerity measures to save themselves from bankruptcy and there are no guarantees that the EU will even survive and if it does it will certainly not be in this form. Initially the US would not change course until 2012, but that’s has also changed. The US has an even bigger problem than the EU.

20 years is too long for Kosovo to become truly independent – in fact the wheels will start to fall of by mid 2011 – money is the issue and there is no more of that left and with Kosovo having 97% unemployment and no prospects on the horizon for improvement; it does not take an average person to work out where its all heading to.

Let me say this; if Kosovo is to become independent then it has to happen in the next 12 months, maximum and that’s not going to happen. Time is running out fast for the Albos.

If they were in power in Belgrade today, would you sit at the same table as Arkan's Tigers, or Seselj's White Eagles? You guys need better popular movements.
(Mike, 28 September 2010 20:56)

Since I forgot to write it earlier.

Mike we did sit at the same table with those. Your memory seems to be short. Prior to '99 Rrugova was begging Milosevic to restore autonomy and sit on the table with him. Not only that; you had the prime minister of Albania doing the same thing and sitting on the table with Milosevic in Athens while he had sent in troops and was killing our people. He not only begged for autonomy but declared that the capital of Kosova is Belgrade. You guys have wasted so many chances, because you always overdo, overreact, and of course neglect those you deem inferior. The point is that the people who beg for talks are not in a position to pick who they talk to. You talk with the people who lead the other side. That is why through Rrugova and through Nano we talked to Milosevic even though we knew that he and Seselj sent troops to kill our people. Refresh your memory a little bit. Get out of Belgrade's grip a little bit.

To my best knowledge, Kosovo will be a full EU-member by 2012 the 11th of July at precise 12:00 hours (a few showers otherwize nice wheater). Romania will be out and have most of her citizens in the EU repatriated and Serbia will abandon "the only way" for better alliances further east.
(Mircea, 28 September 2010 13:49)


From your mouth to the God's ears inshalla :))

Let me say this; if Kosovo is to become independent then it has to happen in the next 12 months, maximum and that’s not going to happen. Time is running out fast for the Albos.
(sj, 29 September 2010 04:53)

If had a dime for everytime we have heard from Serbia and Serbs what we can't do, or will never do, cause you will not allow it, I would have really been a milionare.

20 yrs ago no one could believe that Kosovo would have been completely out of Serbian control and recognized as an independent state by some 70 countries...

If the time is running out for us, than why do u worry so much, I guess it is us that will pay for it....

One thing is for sure, we will never be ruled by Serbia again.