China's Kosovo stance unchanged

China will probably obtain EU candidate status in the spring of 2012 at the earliest or before the parliamentary elections in Bhutan 2016

So the Albanian president wasted his time pleading with his Chinese guests to recognize "Kosova"! http://www.b92.net/eng/news/in_focus.php?id=91&start=75&nav_id=69407

We pursue a defensive policy and do not present a military threat to any country and will never try to dominate the world", Wei said. This is counter to the so-called "democratic western powers", that can only operate by presenting military threats and trying to dominate the world. Wonder if this is what the Greeks wanted, when they established democracy?

That's a quarter of the world. Plus India, another quarter. Plus other BRIC & Non-Alligned states, another quarter. 3/4 of HUMANITY IS ANTI-UDI including half of the EU bureaucracy judging by how they covertly strung along the narco-politicians in Pristina into re-integration talks tandem with Serbia. It was a good summer, no?

Wow Mircea, finally you starting to make sense....

I know that the mighty Borg collective EUSSR doesn´t know it´s boundaries, wether it ends in Georgia and other vassals in the Kaukasus or beyond the Urals, but China?

The Chinese ambassador in Albanian said exactely the same recently pointing out the good historic relationship between Albanian and China. He didn't talk about any sovereignity of Serbia over Kosovo and do you know why? Because he CAN NOT be more Serb than the Serbs themselves. There are some political caricatura up there that want to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves when it comes to Kosovo. There are based in Cyprus, Romania, China...))
(EA)
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Why would China talk about Kosovo in Albania? lol. Get your argument straight mate.

no, Mark, Serbia has not lost...

it´s you ( I guess you´re just another one of these helpless k-albanian kiddies, who pretend to be westerners being interested in "Kosovaah" ) who is gonna lose!

not only because you are quite weak without US-american support, ..but also because there is nothing that would support your irrational claims towards southern serbian territory.

it was never yours, and it will never be yours, since Serbia won´t retreat.

and last but not least, don´t you forget that you do not have any moral or legal right to claim KiM yours, since there is NOTHING, but really NOTHING that connects Albanians to KiM! no historical facts, no archeological artifacts, no indication that Albanians are in any way connected to KiM at all.

so, the real fact, as you used to put it, is that some you K-albanians are reduced to mere terror, threats and lies, in order to raise claims that are not only shameful but also immoral.

and as history has shown, every political entity that has relied on brutal force, threats and terror, have vanished.

you will join them, sooner or later.

I am not a China fan. But China is right on this. No UDIs please!

Sorry, but Kosovo is a province not a state.

"No, because it still showed to China that for Kosovo China is an important country (regardless of whether Kosovo authorities really believe that or not).

Kosovo is not making the same error that Kostunica's government made in the 2-3 years prior to Kosovo's UDI, when it ignored Europe believing that Russia's support was all it needed.

What is the point of telling China "I don't care about you" (even if you think it) ? You only do that if you have foreign policy driven by fanatism (like Serbia did) rather than realpolitik.
(icj1, 19 September 2010 18:30) "

I was referring to the results. Tirana asked the Chinese to recognize "Kosova". The Chinese didn't.

The Chinese ambassador in Albanian said exactely the same recently pointing out the good historic relationship between Albanian and China. He didn't talk about any sovereignity of Serbia over Kosovo and do you know why? Because he CAN NOT be more Serb than the Serbs themselves. There are some political caricatura up there that want to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves when it comes to Kosovo. There are based in Cyprus, Romania, China...))
(EA, 19 September 2010 16:30)


China has always said that they would not recognise Kosovo nor allow it to get a seat on the UN. I’m not sure what you expected the Chinese ambassador to Albania to say. I don’t know how many times they have to repeat that Kosovo is part of Serbia; for me it is only once but for you it seems the Chinese must wear a placard with that statement all the time. The Albanian President pleaded with China for recognition, but with no success.

I would not break out the bubbly stuff out yet; Kosovo is a very long long way from being “free” as you Albanians keep on repeating.

The Chinese ambassador in Albanian said exactely the same recently pointing out the good historic relationship between Albanian and China. He didn't talk about any sovereignity of Serbia over Kosovo and do you know why? Because he CAN NOT be more Serb than the Serbs themselves. There are some political caricatura up there that want to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves when it comes to Kosovo. There are based in Cyprus, Romania, China...))

So the Albanian president wasted his time pleading with his Chinese guests to recognize "Kosova"!
(lowe, 19 September 2010 14:57)

No, because it still showed to China that for Kosovo China is an important country (regardless of whether Kosovo authorities really believe that or not).

Kosovo is not making the same error that Kostunica's government made in the 2-3 years prior to Kosovo's UDI, when it ignored Europe believing that Russia's support was all it needed.

What is the point of telling China "I don't care about you" (even if you think it) ? You only do that if you have foreign policy driven by fanatism (like Serbia did) rather than realpolitik.

That's a quarter of the world. Plus India, another quarter. Plus other BRIC & Non-Alligned states, another quarter. 3/4 of HUMANITY IS ANTI-UDI including half of the EU bureaucracy judging by how they covertly strung along the narco-politicians in Pristina into re-integration talks tandem with Serbia. It was a good summer, no?
(highduke, 19 September 2010 16:23)

Dude, where do you get all those quarters :), let alone about that ridiculous thing regarding the EU bureaucracy ?!!!

China is 1/5 by population, not a quarter. India is a little bit more than 1/6, not a quarter. The rest of the BRIC (i.e. the B and the R) are 1/20 of the world by population. “Non-Aligned” has lost relevance after the cold war. Get the facts straight first and then come here and post.

Now let’s go to the real facts. More than 70% of world’s nominal GDP has recognized Kosovo. 109 countries are not anti-UDI since they voted that Kosovo is a country and could join WB and IMF. There is no evidence that 3/4 of humanity is anti-UDI, but even if it were, it is the part that does not count, the poor, the part that generates less than 1/3 of the worlds income. If Serbia is happy with that, Kosovo is certainly happy with Serbia.

Kosovo certainly would prefer US vs China’s recognition; Germany’s vs India’s, UK’s vs. Russia’s, France’s vs. Brazil’s, and so on. The reason is simple' Kosovo is in Europe, so it’s Europe that counts. If you go and ask the humans in China, India or Brazil, I seriously doubt they would have ever heard about Serbia & Kosovo, let alone to know where they are located or what the issue is. That's the thing that Serbia failed to understand, and that's why lost.

and as history has shown, every political entity that has relied on brutal force, threats and terror, have vanished.

you will join them, sooner or later.
(Jovan, 20 September 2010 15:12)
Are you speaking of the Yugoslavia of the 90's here?

I agree with Jovan. If there was any historical connection in Southern Serbia to any Albanians, then there would be some form of documentation at the very least. This isn't so in Southern Serbia, it only relates to the Serbian people. That is a fact as if this fact had any form of lies, the western powers would have indicated otherwise.

The truth is what hurts, no facts, no western directive. The western powers have played the arm wrestling game to achieve what they want. Have a look at what the English empire did to the India/pakistan areas

That's a quarter of the world. Plus India, another quarter. Plus other BRIC & Non-Alligned states, another quarter. 3/4 of HUMANITY IS ANTI-UDI including half of the EU bureaucracy judging by how they covertly strung along the narco-politicians in Pristina into re-integration talks tandem with Serbia. It was a good summer, no?
(highduke, 19 September 2010 16:23)
Your comment makes no sense. 90% of those 3/4 of the world probably do not know that Serbia is a country little on the issues with Kosovo.
You are inferring that because those govts do not support an independent Kosovo none of the people in it do. Which would mean that since UK, Australia, and Switzerland support an indpendent Kosovo all their citizens do also. I think kate, peggy, and Ron would strongly disagree with your logic.
Of course the "reintegration talks" is beneath response.

Why would China talk about Kosovo in Albania? lol. Get your argument straight mate.
(trudsaam, 19 September 2010 21:21)"

Because there are more than two million Albanians and only a handful of Serbs living in Kosovo and the FACT is that Kosovo is closer to Albania than Serbia. Isn't that a FACT mate? When you will wake up you will find out these FACTS!

Why would China talk about Kosovo in Albania? lol. Get your argument straight mate.
(trudsaam, 19 September 2010 21:21)"

Because there are more than two million Albanians and only a handful of Serbs living in Kosovo and the FACT is that Kosovo is closer to Albania than Serbia. Isn't that a FACT mate? When you will wake up you will find out these FACTS!
(EA)
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Well the FACTs mate, as you like to call it is as such; Kosovo Is Serbia. China, Russia and India are the future World Leaders in both economics and industry. These 3 nations have all stated on NUMEROUS occasions, that THEY WILL NOT RECOGNIZE YOU QUASI-DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE.

This being said; The conclusion will remain as such; Kosovo's institutions will always be in limbo untill they recognize they're parliament in Belgrade. As for the rest of the free-world, Kosovo is Serbia.

The Chinese ambassador in Albanian said exactely the same recently pointing out the good historic relationship between Albanian and China. He didn't talk about any sovereignity of Serbia over Kosovo and do you know why? Because he CAN NOT be more Serb than the Serbs themselves. There are some political caricatura up there that want to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves when it comes to Kosovo. There are based in Cyprus, Romania, China...))

So the Albanian president wasted his time pleading with his Chinese guests to recognize "Kosova"!
(lowe, 19 September 2010 14:57)

No, because it still showed to China that for Kosovo China is an important country (regardless of whether Kosovo authorities really believe that or not).

Kosovo is not making the same error that Kostunica's government made in the 2-3 years prior to Kosovo's UDI, when it ignored Europe believing that Russia's support was all it needed.

What is the point of telling China "I don't care about you" (even if you think it) ? You only do that if you have foreign policy driven by fanatism (like Serbia did) rather than realpolitik.

That's a quarter of the world. Plus India, another quarter. Plus other BRIC & Non-Alligned states, another quarter. 3/4 of HUMANITY IS ANTI-UDI including half of the EU bureaucracy judging by how they covertly strung along the narco-politicians in Pristina into re-integration talks tandem with Serbia. It was a good summer, no?
(highduke, 19 September 2010 16:23)

Dude, where do you get all those quarters :), let alone about that ridiculous thing regarding the EU bureaucracy ?!!!

China is 1/5 by population, not a quarter. India is a little bit more than 1/6, not a quarter. The rest of the BRIC (i.e. the B and the R) are 1/20 of the world by population. “Non-Aligned” has lost relevance after the cold war. Get the facts straight first and then come here and post.

Now let’s go to the real facts. More than 70% of world’s nominal GDP has recognized Kosovo. 109 countries are not anti-UDI since they voted that Kosovo is a country and could join WB and IMF. There is no evidence that 3/4 of humanity is anti-UDI, but even if it were, it is the part that does not count, the poor, the part that generates less than 1/3 of the worlds income. If Serbia is happy with that, Kosovo is certainly happy with Serbia.

Kosovo certainly would prefer US vs China’s recognition; Germany’s vs India’s, UK’s vs. Russia’s, France’s vs. Brazil’s, and so on. The reason is simple' Kosovo is in Europe, so it’s Europe that counts. If you go and ask the humans in China, India or Brazil, I seriously doubt they would have ever heard about Serbia & Kosovo, let alone to know where they are located or what the issue is. That's the thing that Serbia failed to understand, and that's why lost.

Why would China talk about Kosovo in Albania? lol. Get your argument straight mate.
(trudsaam, 19 September 2010 21:21)"

Because there are more than two million Albanians and only a handful of Serbs living in Kosovo and the FACT is that Kosovo is closer to Albania than Serbia. Isn't that a FACT mate? When you will wake up you will find out these FACTS!

China will probably obtain EU candidate status in the spring of 2012 at the earliest or before the parliamentary elections in Bhutan 2016

That's a quarter of the world. Plus India, another quarter. Plus other BRIC & Non-Alligned states, another quarter. 3/4 of HUMANITY IS ANTI-UDI including half of the EU bureaucracy judging by how they covertly strung along the narco-politicians in Pristina into re-integration talks tandem with Serbia. It was a good summer, no?

So the Albanian president wasted his time pleading with his Chinese guests to recognize "Kosova"! http://www.b92.net/eng/news/in_focus.php?id=91&start=75&nav_id=69407

and as history has shown, every political entity that has relied on brutal force, threats and terror, have vanished.

you will join them, sooner or later.
(Jovan, 20 September 2010 15:12)
Are you speaking of the Yugoslavia of the 90's here?

That's a quarter of the world. Plus India, another quarter. Plus other BRIC & Non-Alligned states, another quarter. 3/4 of HUMANITY IS ANTI-UDI including half of the EU bureaucracy judging by how they covertly strung along the narco-politicians in Pristina into re-integration talks tandem with Serbia. It was a good summer, no?
(highduke, 19 September 2010 16:23)
Your comment makes no sense. 90% of those 3/4 of the world probably do not know that Serbia is a country little on the issues with Kosovo.
You are inferring that because those govts do not support an independent Kosovo none of the people in it do. Which would mean that since UK, Australia, and Switzerland support an indpendent Kosovo all their citizens do also. I think kate, peggy, and Ron would strongly disagree with your logic.
Of course the "reintegration talks" is beneath response.

We pursue a defensive policy and do not present a military threat to any country and will never try to dominate the world", Wei said. This is counter to the so-called "democratic western powers", that can only operate by presenting military threats and trying to dominate the world. Wonder if this is what the Greeks wanted, when they established democracy?

Wow Mircea, finally you starting to make sense....

I know that the mighty Borg collective EUSSR doesn´t know it´s boundaries, wether it ends in Georgia and other vassals in the Kaukasus or beyond the Urals, but China?

The Chinese ambassador in Albanian said exactely the same recently pointing out the good historic relationship between Albanian and China. He didn't talk about any sovereignity of Serbia over Kosovo and do you know why? Because he CAN NOT be more Serb than the Serbs themselves. There are some political caricatura up there that want to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves when it comes to Kosovo. There are based in Cyprus, Romania, China...))
(EA)
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Why would China talk about Kosovo in Albania? lol. Get your argument straight mate.

I am not a China fan. But China is right on this. No UDIs please!

Sorry, but Kosovo is a province not a state.

The Chinese ambassador in Albanian said exactely the same recently pointing out the good historic relationship between Albanian and China. He didn't talk about any sovereignity of Serbia over Kosovo and do you know why? Because he CAN NOT be more Serb than the Serbs themselves. There are some political caricatura up there that want to show themselves more Serbs than the Serbs themselves when it comes to Kosovo. There are based in Cyprus, Romania, China...))
(EA, 19 September 2010 16:30)


China has always said that they would not recognise Kosovo nor allow it to get a seat on the UN. I’m not sure what you expected the Chinese ambassador to Albania to say. I don’t know how many times they have to repeat that Kosovo is part of Serbia; for me it is only once but for you it seems the Chinese must wear a placard with that statement all the time. The Albanian President pleaded with China for recognition, but with no success.

I would not break out the bubbly stuff out yet; Kosovo is a very long long way from being “free” as you Albanians keep on repeating.

no, Mark, Serbia has not lost...

it´s you ( I guess you´re just another one of these helpless k-albanian kiddies, who pretend to be westerners being interested in "Kosovaah" ) who is gonna lose!

not only because you are quite weak without US-american support, ..but also because there is nothing that would support your irrational claims towards southern serbian territory.

it was never yours, and it will never be yours, since Serbia won´t retreat.

and last but not least, don´t you forget that you do not have any moral or legal right to claim KiM yours, since there is NOTHING, but really NOTHING that connects Albanians to KiM! no historical facts, no archeological artifacts, no indication that Albanians are in any way connected to KiM at all.

so, the real fact, as you used to put it, is that some you K-albanians are reduced to mere terror, threats and lies, in order to raise claims that are not only shameful but also immoral.

and as history has shown, every political entity that has relied on brutal force, threats and terror, have vanished.

you will join them, sooner or later.

"No, because it still showed to China that for Kosovo China is an important country (regardless of whether Kosovo authorities really believe that or not).

Kosovo is not making the same error that Kostunica's government made in the 2-3 years prior to Kosovo's UDI, when it ignored Europe believing that Russia's support was all it needed.

What is the point of telling China "I don't care about you" (even if you think it) ? You only do that if you have foreign policy driven by fanatism (like Serbia did) rather than realpolitik.
(icj1, 19 September 2010 18:30) "

I was referring to the results. Tirana asked the Chinese to recognize "Kosova". The Chinese didn't.

I agree with Jovan. If there was any historical connection in Southern Serbia to any Albanians, then there would be some form of documentation at the very least. This isn't so in Southern Serbia, it only relates to the Serbian people. That is a fact as if this fact had any form of lies, the western powers would have indicated otherwise.

The truth is what hurts, no facts, no western directive. The western powers have played the arm wrestling game to achieve what they want. Have a look at what the English empire did to the India/pakistan areas

Why would China talk about Kosovo in Albania? lol. Get your argument straight mate.
(trudsaam, 19 September 2010 21:21)"

Because there are more than two million Albanians and only a handful of Serbs living in Kosovo and the FACT is that Kosovo is closer to Albania than Serbia. Isn't that a FACT mate? When you will wake up you will find out these FACTS!
(EA)
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Well the FACTs mate, as you like to call it is as such; Kosovo Is Serbia. China, Russia and India are the future World Leaders in both economics and industry. These 3 nations have all stated on NUMEROUS occasions, that THEY WILL NOT RECOGNIZE YOU QUASI-DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE.

This being said; The conclusion will remain as such; Kosovo's institutions will always be in limbo untill they recognize they're parliament in Belgrade. As for the rest of the free-world, Kosovo is Serbia.