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Friday, 10.09.2010.

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Dispute delayed UN session two hours

Vuk Jeremić says that the UN General Assembly session was delayedbecause Kosovo Albanians showed up in the hall despite the fact that they were not invited.

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Peggy

pre 13 godina

Also understandable that as a non-member they wouldn't have seat with the other members.
(JohnnyC, 11 September 2010 09:05)
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Yep, agree but only if they are invited which they were not initially, putting their 'friends' in an awkward position.

What do we call uninvited guests again?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

@Roberto,

"the blgd regime isn't proud -- it is arrogant, it is belligerent, it is unrepentant. it also does not know how to behave in a civilized way even at the UN, which is saying a lot!"
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At least they don't go where they are not invited, unlike your lot.
Pretty low thing to do to come univited and put your 'friends' in an awkward position having to invite you then and there.
Do you think that this is a civilised way to behave?
Serbia had every right to object. Nothing uncivilised about that.
Roberto, get ready for a lot more of these episodes. "Kosova" will always have to be invited there because they will never have a seat and even if they manage to get invitations every time what good is that? They cannot participate anyway.
It's like going to court to observe the trial which you have no input in at all. It gets a bit boring in the end.

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Funny, though, in the UN headquarters where Serbia is a full fledged member, they were powerless to have the Kosovo authorities removed.
Now explain why being a UN member should be so important that Kosovo should give up their stance on independence!
(pss)
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The "Kosovo authorities" were not present at the UN, FYI. Albanian observers were present.

pss

pre 13 godina

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what happened here. The Kosovo Albanians violated the rules and they had to suffer the consequences, plain and simple. Once they were invited, the problem was solved. Funny, though, that the UN office is in New York, USA, and the Albanians couldn't get in!
(Daniel, 11 September 2010 12:10
Ironic you read the same news as everyone else and come away with a totally different story.
The Kosovo representatives were in, legally, but Serbia made a show and had to be shown that they were there legally and they were allowed to stay.
Funny, though, in the UN headquarters where Serbia is a full fledged member, they were powerless to have the Kosovo authorities removed.
Now explain why being a UN member should be so important that Kosovo should give up their stance on independence!

Danilo

pre 13 godina

"It's ironic that some posters here who are calling for negotiations are insulting the same people they want to negotiate with. "


This is the saddest thing about all this. What's wrong with someone when they're shouting for negotiations and insulting the people they want to negotiate with in the same breath.

remarkable stupidity, arrogance and, frankly, childishness.

Amer

pre 13 godina

I read a a story about Pacolli at the UN session mostly about his being miffed that the official delegation didn't coordinate its lobbying efforts with his team's) where he says there was an informal vote taken to allow the (official) Kosovo delegation to be present in the hall. Russia and other members of the SC had agreed to Kosovo being present, which made Jeremic "nervous." The seats the Kosovo officials were in had been assigned under UN protocol, so what Jeremic hoped to accomplish with his stalk-out is unclear. Maybe it was more important to impress people in Belgrade than the representatives of the world who had to wait over two hours for the session to start?

Colin

pre 13 godina

Oh lookey...

Here is Mr Black and White of the Balkans again. Roberto.

"All serbs are bad. Everybody else is good.

All Serb war crimes are bad and evil. Any other atrocities seen or found should be ignored until every evil Serb is punished."

This was your intent in a recent thread, and I'm sure your intent here is similar.

You sir, are a pathetic individual...

Daniel

pre 13 godina

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what happened here. The Kosovo Albanians violated the rules and they had to suffer the consequences, plain and simple. Once they were invited, the problem was solved. Funny, though, that the UN office is in New York, USA, and the Albanians couldn't get in!

JohnnyC

pre 13 godina

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.
(Peggy, 10 September 2010 15:32)

So what? The resolution was so watered down as to be meaningless, not the tough statement that was initially intended. Understandable that the Pristina government should be there. Also understandable that as a non-member they wouldn't have seat with the other members.

t

pre 13 godina

-"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."
(doodah, 10 September 2010 13:40)
===…==

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.
(Peggy-

At the end of the day Serbia capitulated and Kosovo left the room with more than what they entered with.

It's ironic that some posters here who are calling for negotiations are insulting the same people they want to negotiate with.

Indicative of your leadership.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-Hyseni told Priština-based RTV 21 that he had explicitly informed UN General Assembly Chairman Ali Abdussalam Treki of Libya about the Kosovo delegation’s position that they would not leave the seats which they had been given in accordance with the UN's protocol.

He also said that Treki had expressed understanding for such a position. The Kosovo FM said that the behavior of the Serbian representatives was a “diplomatic scandal” reminiscent of those occuring during the Cold War. --

just when you think the blgd regime couldn't get lower (right?) comes along this harvard?! graduate to prove us wrong.

the blgd regime isn't proud -- it is arrogant, it is belligerent, it is unrepentant. it also does not know how to behave in a civilized way even at the UN, which is saying a lot!

the cold war -- yes, the worst idiocy of the cold war.
and yes, i did live thru a (good) part of it, and it ain't worth repeating, esp.ly w/this cheap-o version.

then they yap on and on about the need for "talks and negotiations" btwn the sides, but they don't have the first CLUE about dealing with the representatives of kosova with even a modicum of respect or decency.

that's the "moderate" serbian leaders. thank you.

roberto
frisco

arti

pre 13 godina

Little boys sit in a small room-while big boys hold a stick. albanian officials again show how patetic they are.
(lids, 10 September 2010 16:40)
You right about the stick, however you or serb camp want's to spin it Kosova Albanians were the ines that got their time worthy there.

Amer

pre 13 godina

'What a pity! Had taken the official route like Slovakia!
(Ron, 10 September 2010 16:30)'

If they had wanted to separate from the Czechs they would have.

KU

pre 13 godina

"Actually I think you will find that K Albanianss policy is lets talk and negotiate as long as we can dictate what is talked about. If you want to talk about the real issues that effect Serbia then we will not sit down with you."
(UK, 10 September 2010 15:55)

I think that you got it wrong. The Albanians are dictating only what NOT to talk about. Everything else is open to discussion from who came first, the chicken or the egg, to the meaning of liff, the universe and everything. I did not understand the last sentence of your comment. Does it mean that you will sit down with the Albanians only if they want to talk about the fake issues that affect Serbia?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci, Skender Hyseni and Fatmir Sejdiu, were seated in the gallery, in seats reserved for guests and observers.
=====================

And I sit as an observer at the Australian Open but I will never be Ivanovic.
Don't you think that there is a huge difference between being a performer from observer?

From Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 13 godina

I must credit the Kosovar delegation for being defiant to Vuc Jeremic's demands that the Kosovar delegation not be invited to the UN assembly. Besides Jeremic has to learn that not everyone shall defer to him.

rolerkoster

pre 13 godina

What a progress in relations between Serbia and Kosovo ... for me as an EU citizen it looks exactly like Serbia is navigating it's own negotiation position towards the a no-win-situation which has finally resulted in Kosovo's declaration of independence.

Jim

pre 13 godina

Anyone can watch the play from the gallery, but don't forget that you are not an actor until you are on the stage. Still, I hope they enjoyed the performance. The UNGA is quite a spectacle!

CLP

pre 13 godina

have said it a hundred times here, Belgrade will not talk with a war criminal like Thaci, who 10 years ago was murdering Serbs in Kosovo. Belgrade wants him to face a criminal court, not sit across from him at a table. Would the Albanians ever have shook hands and sat down to have talks with Milosevic?
(winston, 10 September 2010 15:45)

Winston we actually tried Rugova did try many years peaceful way and asked for being treated like humans but no Milosevic said no he had other plans.

Serbia calls for negotiations but does not want to talk with Albanians ok so with who then. Sorry but they have to do this with Albanians and for now Thaqi is one who represents them. True maybe not best person but better than Harajdinaj (let Albanians choose their leaders)

INDEPENDANCE GRANTED

pre 13 godina

Vuk Jeremic wants to assure this Council that Serbia stands ready to flexibly engage in all SINCERITY, for our intent is neither to freeze the conflict, nor to triumph or to SUBJUGATE,"

Really?

Where’s your sincerity Vuk?
The flexibility YOU often talk about?

Here’s an attempt at quite the opposite.............. for the world to see.......... Let me remind you all what SUBJUGATE really means: to bring under complete control or subjection; conquer; master to make submissive or subservient; enslave.

Example being what are you elected officials doing here? Leave the hall you’re not invited.

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

In English, "Silent but Deadly" refers to abdominal gas, Observer. Are you sure you want to label the Albanian delegation that? In any case, not a surprise that Pristina's thugs would force their way into the UNGA, their method has always been force, they cannot help themselves. Soon, these ex-KLA'ers will have to go, and Pristina will need find some more respectable representation.

Staff

pre 13 godina

Fact is they are the winners from international gathering.
(Observer, 10 September 2010 16:34)

Hold your horses now buddy...Winner of WHAT?? Winner that the whole international community is getting fed up with Kosovo? We see no-one else winner here except Serbia itself. Serbia wanted to come back to negotiation table and they got it. May be that they had to take away some text but what the heck, absolutely nothing, and I say it again NOTHING has changed. According to 2/3 of the world countries and about 90% of world population, Kosovo is a Serbian southern province. Serbia has de fact full control oven 35% of the territory, Eulex decides for the rest under 1244 and Unmik. And now for the grand final of my text: The K Albanians dont see that they have been fooled to keep quiet, travel back to thier beloved home and stay there. Because as all readers here may have noticed. Since Serbia changed their text of this famous resolution, UNGA did not take up ANYTHING about resolution 1244 that is Allah, God and father of Kosovo and very much in full force. I mean, hey, all congratulations to Serbia, their people and last but not least, Serbias paid international experts and counsellors. Extremely well played. It seems like you are going to get this Kosovo-deal into goal. We will see.

Skifteri

pre 13 godina

What are the Albanians crying about? Kosovo is, according to the vast majority on earth, a Serbian province and not an own country. Therefore it is of course not, and can not be, a UN member. I cant help smiling a bit when one see the Albanian delegation like small boys that do not understand anything among all the real politicians. It looks like they have just fell from a tractor and grumbles "Where is US to help us". And then US steps in and say "Well, you can sit here as a visitor". Then Hyseini sits there and thinks "Oh my God how big this arena is, wonder if they sell popcorn here" So funny I must say.
(Staff, 10 September 2010 14:45)


What is funny is you famous prediction for guaranteed ICJ victory, you would make a swell oracle of B92 readers.

quasistate

pre 13 godina

Jut another display of Albanian classless arrogance. They are dying to get into the UN, just dying, that they force their way into a chamber where they have no right to be. And as usual, to save face, mama America saves its little kid.

Observer

pre 13 godina

Silent but deadly. Who cares whether they spoke or not, or where they where sitting. Fact is they are the winners from international gathering.

Ron

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is not a member of the UN. And it will not be one...

It will not be a member of EU.

What a pity! Had taken the official route like Slovakia!

Bob the Builder

pre 13 godina

That chap Skender Hyseni reminds me of Saddam Hussein's propaganda spokesman "Comical Ali". Does he really believe that anybody, other than Albanian nationalists, think a word he utters has any relevence,accuracy or credibility?

I mean, he accuses the Serbs of a "diplomatic scandal" when it was he and his 2 muckers that were participating in a political 'sit-in' and refusal to budge at a meeting to which they had no right to attend. It is they who held up proceeding of the UNGA whilst they pulled their silly political stunt. Pathetic.

No surprise that some of the supporters of the breakaway of the Serbian province think this farce should be applauded.

winston

pre 13 godina

I have said it a hundred times here, Belgrade will not talk with a war criminal like Thaci, who 10 years ago was murdering Serbs in Kosovo. Belgrade wants him to face a criminal court, not sit across from him at a table. Would the Albanians ever have shook hands and sat down to have talks with Milosevic?

UK

pre 13 godina

Serbia's policies: Let's talk and negotiate, but I don't want you in the same room with me.
(KU, 10 September 2010 14:07)

Actually I think you will find that K Albanianss policy is lets talk and negotiate as long as we can dictate what is talked about. If you want to talk about the real issues that effect Serbia then we will not sit down with you.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."
(doodah, 10 September 2010 13:40)
==================

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci, Skender Hyseni and Fatmir Sejdiu, were seated in the gallery, in seats reserved for guests and observers.
--
Well that says it all really. All representitives of real countries sit in their offical seats and all others sit in the visitors' seats - but don't forget your invitation!

Staff

pre 13 godina

What are the Albanians crying about? Kosovo is, according to the vast majority on earth, a Serbian province and not an own country. Therefore it is of course not, and can not be, a UN member. I cant help smiling a bit when one see the Albanian delegation like small boys that do not understand anything among all the real politicians. It looks like they have just fell from a tractor and grumbles "Where is US to help us". And then US steps in and say "Well, you can sit here as a visitor". Then Hyseini sits there and thinks "Oh my God how big this arena is, wonder if they sell popcorn here" So funny I must say.

Top

pre 13 godina

Where's the problem? Kosovo is not an UN member state, so they can only show up as guests/visitors. And visitors have to be invited and cannot show up on their own. Why didn't Hyseini and his mates care for getting an invitation before they showed up? And how could they enter the hall at all? Isn't there any security at the UN Headquarters who grants access only to allowed persons? A big security risk if any person can show up there without being legitimated.

Babaj Bokes

pre 13 godina

How in gods name do you want to negotiate a settlement with party that you refuse to sit down with on the same room. Mr. Jeremic's behaviour is outrageous. His arrogance is something that I can not find words powerfull enough to describe.

Have you ever thought Mr. Minister of trying being a gentlemen and shaking hands and saying to Kosovo delegation: Gentlemen we have a lot of ground to cover so lets start on the right foot. Its very unfortunate but the Serbian side lacks a good will gesture. For any person to achieve a good outcome there has to be good intentions otherwise everything from the outset is doomed for failure.

With Serbia's FM constantly planting obstacles along the way I really dont see how both sides can reach a satisfying outcome.

Mike

pre 13 godina

The fact that at the end they were put in the observers' gallery shows where they're really been all along in the process over Kosovo - as observers not policymakers.

doodah

pre 13 godina

at the end of the day, the K-albanians had to take seat as visitors.
(Jovan, 10 September 2010 12:51)
They entered as guests, remained as guests, and left as guests.
"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

The provincial governement of Kosovo needs to get used to these kind of incidents. After all, they are not a country, not a memeber of UN and should be treated as such, they can be present as VISITORS

UK

pre 13 godina

It seems the K Albs are never content. They get the ammended resolution that they wanted and still have to cause a stir by entering where they were not invited then demanding that they will stay despite it being against the UN protocols! But, instead of upholding the rules of the GA, the US and UK amongst others support the K Albs by "inviting them to stay as guests"!
I cant help but think back to situations when Serbia tried to exercise her legiytimate rights, as in the detail of the draft resolution, and she is threatened and bullied until she withdraws her request to have fair and open talks. How the world appears to treat some more equally than others!

Jovan

pre 13 godina

these rather stupid attempts to sneak into UNGA-sessions are just embarrassing.

these sessions are sessions for real states.


those "inviting" countries have harmed themselves with that "invitation".

at the end of the day, the K-albanians had to take seat as visitors.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

The Kosovo Government officials have the right to be invited and observe something as important as this resolution because it strongly affects them and deeply involves them.

kim Rules

pre 13 godina

your FM V. Jerimic has a very good reason why he does this silly request:

Namely, he hasn't forgotten that FM Mr Hyseni send his boss, president B. Tadic, a few weeks ago away from the Assembly at UN. And he is afraid the same will happen to him.

The best regards
Kim

Babaj Bokes

pre 13 godina

How in gods name do you want to negotiate a settlement with party that you refuse to sit down with on the same room. Mr. Jeremic's behaviour is outrageous. His arrogance is something that I can not find words powerfull enough to describe.

Have you ever thought Mr. Minister of trying being a gentlemen and shaking hands and saying to Kosovo delegation: Gentlemen we have a lot of ground to cover so lets start on the right foot. Its very unfortunate but the Serbian side lacks a good will gesture. For any person to achieve a good outcome there has to be good intentions otherwise everything from the outset is doomed for failure.

With Serbia's FM constantly planting obstacles along the way I really dont see how both sides can reach a satisfying outcome.

doodah

pre 13 godina

at the end of the day, the K-albanians had to take seat as visitors.
(Jovan, 10 September 2010 12:51)
They entered as guests, remained as guests, and left as guests.
"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."

Staff

pre 13 godina

What are the Albanians crying about? Kosovo is, according to the vast majority on earth, a Serbian province and not an own country. Therefore it is of course not, and can not be, a UN member. I cant help smiling a bit when one see the Albanian delegation like small boys that do not understand anything among all the real politicians. It looks like they have just fell from a tractor and grumbles "Where is US to help us". And then US steps in and say "Well, you can sit here as a visitor". Then Hyseini sits there and thinks "Oh my God how big this arena is, wonder if they sell popcorn here" So funny I must say.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

The Kosovo Government officials have the right to be invited and observe something as important as this resolution because it strongly affects them and deeply involves them.

kim Rules

pre 13 godina

your FM V. Jerimic has a very good reason why he does this silly request:

Namely, he hasn't forgotten that FM Mr Hyseni send his boss, president B. Tadic, a few weeks ago away from the Assembly at UN. And he is afraid the same will happen to him.

The best regards
Kim

Top

pre 13 godina

Where's the problem? Kosovo is not an UN member state, so they can only show up as guests/visitors. And visitors have to be invited and cannot show up on their own. Why didn't Hyseini and his mates care for getting an invitation before they showed up? And how could they enter the hall at all? Isn't there any security at the UN Headquarters who grants access only to allowed persons? A big security risk if any person can show up there without being legitimated.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

these rather stupid attempts to sneak into UNGA-sessions are just embarrassing.

these sessions are sessions for real states.


those "inviting" countries have harmed themselves with that "invitation".

at the end of the day, the K-albanians had to take seat as visitors.

Ron

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is not a member of the UN. And it will not be one...

It will not be a member of EU.

What a pity! Had taken the official route like Slovakia!

Observer

pre 13 godina

Silent but deadly. Who cares whether they spoke or not, or where they where sitting. Fact is they are the winners from international gathering.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."
(doodah, 10 September 2010 13:40)
==================

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.

UK

pre 13 godina

It seems the K Albs are never content. They get the ammended resolution that they wanted and still have to cause a stir by entering where they were not invited then demanding that they will stay despite it being against the UN protocols! But, instead of upholding the rules of the GA, the US and UK amongst others support the K Albs by "inviting them to stay as guests"!
I cant help but think back to situations when Serbia tried to exercise her legiytimate rights, as in the detail of the draft resolution, and she is threatened and bullied until she withdraws her request to have fair and open talks. How the world appears to treat some more equally than others!

Mike

pre 13 godina

The fact that at the end they were put in the observers' gallery shows where they're really been all along in the process over Kosovo - as observers not policymakers.

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci, Skender Hyseni and Fatmir Sejdiu, were seated in the gallery, in seats reserved for guests and observers.
--
Well that says it all really. All representitives of real countries sit in their offical seats and all others sit in the visitors' seats - but don't forget your invitation!

winston

pre 13 godina

I have said it a hundred times here, Belgrade will not talk with a war criminal like Thaci, who 10 years ago was murdering Serbs in Kosovo. Belgrade wants him to face a criminal court, not sit across from him at a table. Would the Albanians ever have shook hands and sat down to have talks with Milosevic?

Bob the Builder

pre 13 godina

That chap Skender Hyseni reminds me of Saddam Hussein's propaganda spokesman "Comical Ali". Does he really believe that anybody, other than Albanian nationalists, think a word he utters has any relevence,accuracy or credibility?

I mean, he accuses the Serbs of a "diplomatic scandal" when it was he and his 2 muckers that were participating in a political 'sit-in' and refusal to budge at a meeting to which they had no right to attend. It is they who held up proceeding of the UNGA whilst they pulled their silly political stunt. Pathetic.

No surprise that some of the supporters of the breakaway of the Serbian province think this farce should be applauded.

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

The provincial governement of Kosovo needs to get used to these kind of incidents. After all, they are not a country, not a memeber of UN and should be treated as such, they can be present as VISITORS

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

In English, "Silent but Deadly" refers to abdominal gas, Observer. Are you sure you want to label the Albanian delegation that? In any case, not a surprise that Pristina's thugs would force their way into the UNGA, their method has always been force, they cannot help themselves. Soon, these ex-KLA'ers will have to go, and Pristina will need find some more respectable representation.

UK

pre 13 godina

Serbia's policies: Let's talk and negotiate, but I don't want you in the same room with me.
(KU, 10 September 2010 14:07)

Actually I think you will find that K Albanianss policy is lets talk and negotiate as long as we can dictate what is talked about. If you want to talk about the real issues that effect Serbia then we will not sit down with you.

Staff

pre 13 godina

Fact is they are the winners from international gathering.
(Observer, 10 September 2010 16:34)

Hold your horses now buddy...Winner of WHAT?? Winner that the whole international community is getting fed up with Kosovo? We see no-one else winner here except Serbia itself. Serbia wanted to come back to negotiation table and they got it. May be that they had to take away some text but what the heck, absolutely nothing, and I say it again NOTHING has changed. According to 2/3 of the world countries and about 90% of world population, Kosovo is a Serbian southern province. Serbia has de fact full control oven 35% of the territory, Eulex decides for the rest under 1244 and Unmik. And now for the grand final of my text: The K Albanians dont see that they have been fooled to keep quiet, travel back to thier beloved home and stay there. Because as all readers here may have noticed. Since Serbia changed their text of this famous resolution, UNGA did not take up ANYTHING about resolution 1244 that is Allah, God and father of Kosovo and very much in full force. I mean, hey, all congratulations to Serbia, their people and last but not least, Serbias paid international experts and counsellors. Extremely well played. It seems like you are going to get this Kosovo-deal into goal. We will see.

quasistate

pre 13 godina

Jut another display of Albanian classless arrogance. They are dying to get into the UN, just dying, that they force their way into a chamber where they have no right to be. And as usual, to save face, mama America saves its little kid.

Jim

pre 13 godina

Anyone can watch the play from the gallery, but don't forget that you are not an actor until you are on the stage. Still, I hope they enjoyed the performance. The UNGA is quite a spectacle!

Skifteri

pre 13 godina

What are the Albanians crying about? Kosovo is, according to the vast majority on earth, a Serbian province and not an own country. Therefore it is of course not, and can not be, a UN member. I cant help smiling a bit when one see the Albanian delegation like small boys that do not understand anything among all the real politicians. It looks like they have just fell from a tractor and grumbles "Where is US to help us". And then US steps in and say "Well, you can sit here as a visitor". Then Hyseini sits there and thinks "Oh my God how big this arena is, wonder if they sell popcorn here" So funny I must say.
(Staff, 10 September 2010 14:45)


What is funny is you famous prediction for guaranteed ICJ victory, you would make a swell oracle of B92 readers.

CLP

pre 13 godina

have said it a hundred times here, Belgrade will not talk with a war criminal like Thaci, who 10 years ago was murdering Serbs in Kosovo. Belgrade wants him to face a criminal court, not sit across from him at a table. Would the Albanians ever have shook hands and sat down to have talks with Milosevic?
(winston, 10 September 2010 15:45)

Winston we actually tried Rugova did try many years peaceful way and asked for being treated like humans but no Milosevic said no he had other plans.

Serbia calls for negotiations but does not want to talk with Albanians ok so with who then. Sorry but they have to do this with Albanians and for now Thaqi is one who represents them. True maybe not best person but better than Harajdinaj (let Albanians choose their leaders)

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci, Skender Hyseni and Fatmir Sejdiu, were seated in the gallery, in seats reserved for guests and observers.
=====================

And I sit as an observer at the Australian Open but I will never be Ivanovic.
Don't you think that there is a huge difference between being a performer from observer?

Colin

pre 13 godina

Oh lookey...

Here is Mr Black and White of the Balkans again. Roberto.

"All serbs are bad. Everybody else is good.

All Serb war crimes are bad and evil. Any other atrocities seen or found should be ignored until every evil Serb is punished."

This was your intent in a recent thread, and I'm sure your intent here is similar.

You sir, are a pathetic individual...

roberto

pre 13 godina

-Hyseni told Priština-based RTV 21 that he had explicitly informed UN General Assembly Chairman Ali Abdussalam Treki of Libya about the Kosovo delegation’s position that they would not leave the seats which they had been given in accordance with the UN's protocol.

He also said that Treki had expressed understanding for such a position. The Kosovo FM said that the behavior of the Serbian representatives was a “diplomatic scandal” reminiscent of those occuring during the Cold War. --

just when you think the blgd regime couldn't get lower (right?) comes along this harvard?! graduate to prove us wrong.

the blgd regime isn't proud -- it is arrogant, it is belligerent, it is unrepentant. it also does not know how to behave in a civilized way even at the UN, which is saying a lot!

the cold war -- yes, the worst idiocy of the cold war.
and yes, i did live thru a (good) part of it, and it ain't worth repeating, esp.ly w/this cheap-o version.

then they yap on and on about the need for "talks and negotiations" btwn the sides, but they don't have the first CLUE about dealing with the representatives of kosova with even a modicum of respect or decency.

that's the "moderate" serbian leaders. thank you.

roberto
frisco

rolerkoster

pre 13 godina

What a progress in relations between Serbia and Kosovo ... for me as an EU citizen it looks exactly like Serbia is navigating it's own negotiation position towards the a no-win-situation which has finally resulted in Kosovo's declaration of independence.

t

pre 13 godina

-"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."
(doodah, 10 September 2010 13:40)
===…==

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.
(Peggy-

At the end of the day Serbia capitulated and Kosovo left the room with more than what they entered with.

It's ironic that some posters here who are calling for negotiations are insulting the same people they want to negotiate with.

Indicative of your leadership.

KU

pre 13 godina

"Actually I think you will find that K Albanianss policy is lets talk and negotiate as long as we can dictate what is talked about. If you want to talk about the real issues that effect Serbia then we will not sit down with you."
(UK, 10 September 2010 15:55)

I think that you got it wrong. The Albanians are dictating only what NOT to talk about. Everything else is open to discussion from who came first, the chicken or the egg, to the meaning of liff, the universe and everything. I did not understand the last sentence of your comment. Does it mean that you will sit down with the Albanians only if they want to talk about the fake issues that affect Serbia?

pss

pre 13 godina

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what happened here. The Kosovo Albanians violated the rules and they had to suffer the consequences, plain and simple. Once they were invited, the problem was solved. Funny, though, that the UN office is in New York, USA, and the Albanians couldn't get in!
(Daniel, 11 September 2010 12:10
Ironic you read the same news as everyone else and come away with a totally different story.
The Kosovo representatives were in, legally, but Serbia made a show and had to be shown that they were there legally and they were allowed to stay.
Funny, though, in the UN headquarters where Serbia is a full fledged member, they were powerless to have the Kosovo authorities removed.
Now explain why being a UN member should be so important that Kosovo should give up their stance on independence!

Amer

pre 13 godina

'What a pity! Had taken the official route like Slovakia!
(Ron, 10 September 2010 16:30)'

If they had wanted to separate from the Czechs they would have.

INDEPENDANCE GRANTED

pre 13 godina

Vuk Jeremic wants to assure this Council that Serbia stands ready to flexibly engage in all SINCERITY, for our intent is neither to freeze the conflict, nor to triumph or to SUBJUGATE,"

Really?

Where’s your sincerity Vuk?
The flexibility YOU often talk about?

Here’s an attempt at quite the opposite.............. for the world to see.......... Let me remind you all what SUBJUGATE really means: to bring under complete control or subjection; conquer; master to make submissive or subservient; enslave.

Example being what are you elected officials doing here? Leave the hall you’re not invited.

arti

pre 13 godina

Little boys sit in a small room-while big boys hold a stick. albanian officials again show how patetic they are.
(lids, 10 September 2010 16:40)
You right about the stick, however you or serb camp want's to spin it Kosova Albanians were the ines that got their time worthy there.

JohnnyC

pre 13 godina

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.
(Peggy, 10 September 2010 15:32)

So what? The resolution was so watered down as to be meaningless, not the tough statement that was initially intended. Understandable that the Pristina government should be there. Also understandable that as a non-member they wouldn't have seat with the other members.

Daniel

pre 13 godina

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what happened here. The Kosovo Albanians violated the rules and they had to suffer the consequences, plain and simple. Once they were invited, the problem was solved. Funny, though, that the UN office is in New York, USA, and the Albanians couldn't get in!

Danilo

pre 13 godina

"It's ironic that some posters here who are calling for negotiations are insulting the same people they want to negotiate with. "


This is the saddest thing about all this. What's wrong with someone when they're shouting for negotiations and insulting the people they want to negotiate with in the same breath.

remarkable stupidity, arrogance and, frankly, childishness.

Amer

pre 13 godina

I read a a story about Pacolli at the UN session mostly about his being miffed that the official delegation didn't coordinate its lobbying efforts with his team's) where he says there was an informal vote taken to allow the (official) Kosovo delegation to be present in the hall. Russia and other members of the SC had agreed to Kosovo being present, which made Jeremic "nervous." The seats the Kosovo officials were in had been assigned under UN protocol, so what Jeremic hoped to accomplish with his stalk-out is unclear. Maybe it was more important to impress people in Belgrade than the representatives of the world who had to wait over two hours for the session to start?

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Funny, though, in the UN headquarters where Serbia is a full fledged member, they were powerless to have the Kosovo authorities removed.
Now explain why being a UN member should be so important that Kosovo should give up their stance on independence!
(pss)
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The "Kosovo authorities" were not present at the UN, FYI. Albanian observers were present.

From Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 13 godina

I must credit the Kosovar delegation for being defiant to Vuc Jeremic's demands that the Kosovar delegation not be invited to the UN assembly. Besides Jeremic has to learn that not everyone shall defer to him.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Also understandable that as a non-member they wouldn't have seat with the other members.
(JohnnyC, 11 September 2010 09:05)
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Yep, agree but only if they are invited which they were not initially, putting their 'friends' in an awkward position.

What do we call uninvited guests again?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

@Roberto,

"the blgd regime isn't proud -- it is arrogant, it is belligerent, it is unrepentant. it also does not know how to behave in a civilized way even at the UN, which is saying a lot!"
======================

At least they don't go where they are not invited, unlike your lot.
Pretty low thing to do to come univited and put your 'friends' in an awkward position having to invite you then and there.
Do you think that this is a civilised way to behave?
Serbia had every right to object. Nothing uncivilised about that.
Roberto, get ready for a lot more of these episodes. "Kosova" will always have to be invited there because they will never have a seat and even if they manage to get invitations every time what good is that? They cannot participate anyway.
It's like going to court to observe the trial which you have no input in at all. It gets a bit boring in the end.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

these rather stupid attempts to sneak into UNGA-sessions are just embarrassing.

these sessions are sessions for real states.


those "inviting" countries have harmed themselves with that "invitation".

at the end of the day, the K-albanians had to take seat as visitors.

winston

pre 13 godina

I have said it a hundred times here, Belgrade will not talk with a war criminal like Thaci, who 10 years ago was murdering Serbs in Kosovo. Belgrade wants him to face a criminal court, not sit across from him at a table. Would the Albanians ever have shook hands and sat down to have talks with Milosevic?

Srboslav

pre 13 godina

The provincial governement of Kosovo needs to get used to these kind of incidents. After all, they are not a country, not a memeber of UN and should be treated as such, they can be present as VISITORS

Staff

pre 13 godina

What are the Albanians crying about? Kosovo is, according to the vast majority on earth, a Serbian province and not an own country. Therefore it is of course not, and can not be, a UN member. I cant help smiling a bit when one see the Albanian delegation like small boys that do not understand anything among all the real politicians. It looks like they have just fell from a tractor and grumbles "Where is US to help us". And then US steps in and say "Well, you can sit here as a visitor". Then Hyseini sits there and thinks "Oh my God how big this arena is, wonder if they sell popcorn here" So funny I must say.

Bob the Builder

pre 13 godina

That chap Skender Hyseni reminds me of Saddam Hussein's propaganda spokesman "Comical Ali". Does he really believe that anybody, other than Albanian nationalists, think a word he utters has any relevence,accuracy or credibility?

I mean, he accuses the Serbs of a "diplomatic scandal" when it was he and his 2 muckers that were participating in a political 'sit-in' and refusal to budge at a meeting to which they had no right to attend. It is they who held up proceeding of the UNGA whilst they pulled their silly political stunt. Pathetic.

No surprise that some of the supporters of the breakaway of the Serbian province think this farce should be applauded.

Top

pre 13 godina

Where's the problem? Kosovo is not an UN member state, so they can only show up as guests/visitors. And visitors have to be invited and cannot show up on their own. Why didn't Hyseini and his mates care for getting an invitation before they showed up? And how could they enter the hall at all? Isn't there any security at the UN Headquarters who grants access only to allowed persons? A big security risk if any person can show up there without being legitimated.

UK

pre 13 godina

It seems the K Albs are never content. They get the ammended resolution that they wanted and still have to cause a stir by entering where they were not invited then demanding that they will stay despite it being against the UN protocols! But, instead of upholding the rules of the GA, the US and UK amongst others support the K Albs by "inviting them to stay as guests"!
I cant help but think back to situations when Serbia tried to exercise her legiytimate rights, as in the detail of the draft resolution, and she is threatened and bullied until she withdraws her request to have fair and open talks. How the world appears to treat some more equally than others!

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

The Kosovo Government officials have the right to be invited and observe something as important as this resolution because it strongly affects them and deeply involves them.

Mike

pre 13 godina

The fact that at the end they were put in the observers' gallery shows where they're really been all along in the process over Kosovo - as observers not policymakers.

Observer

pre 13 godina

Silent but deadly. Who cares whether they spoke or not, or where they where sitting. Fact is they are the winners from international gathering.

roberto

pre 13 godina

-Hyseni told Priština-based RTV 21 that he had explicitly informed UN General Assembly Chairman Ali Abdussalam Treki of Libya about the Kosovo delegation’s position that they would not leave the seats which they had been given in accordance with the UN's protocol.

He also said that Treki had expressed understanding for such a position. The Kosovo FM said that the behavior of the Serbian representatives was a “diplomatic scandal” reminiscent of those occuring during the Cold War. --

just when you think the blgd regime couldn't get lower (right?) comes along this harvard?! graduate to prove us wrong.

the blgd regime isn't proud -- it is arrogant, it is belligerent, it is unrepentant. it also does not know how to behave in a civilized way even at the UN, which is saying a lot!

the cold war -- yes, the worst idiocy of the cold war.
and yes, i did live thru a (good) part of it, and it ain't worth repeating, esp.ly w/this cheap-o version.

then they yap on and on about the need for "talks and negotiations" btwn the sides, but they don't have the first CLUE about dealing with the representatives of kosova with even a modicum of respect or decency.

that's the "moderate" serbian leaders. thank you.

roberto
frisco

Peggy

pre 13 godina

"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."
(doodah, 10 September 2010 13:40)
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At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.

kim Rules

pre 13 godina

your FM V. Jerimic has a very good reason why he does this silly request:

Namely, he hasn't forgotten that FM Mr Hyseni send his boss, president B. Tadic, a few weeks ago away from the Assembly at UN. And he is afraid the same will happen to him.

The best regards
Kim

Babaj Bokes

pre 13 godina

How in gods name do you want to negotiate a settlement with party that you refuse to sit down with on the same room. Mr. Jeremic's behaviour is outrageous. His arrogance is something that I can not find words powerfull enough to describe.

Have you ever thought Mr. Minister of trying being a gentlemen and shaking hands and saying to Kosovo delegation: Gentlemen we have a lot of ground to cover so lets start on the right foot. Its very unfortunate but the Serbian side lacks a good will gesture. For any person to achieve a good outcome there has to be good intentions otherwise everything from the outset is doomed for failure.

With Serbia's FM constantly planting obstacles along the way I really dont see how both sides can reach a satisfying outcome.

Ron

pre 13 godina

Kosovo is not a member of the UN. And it will not be one...

It will not be a member of EU.

What a pity! Had taken the official route like Slovakia!

Zoran

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci, Skender Hyseni and Fatmir Sejdiu, were seated in the gallery, in seats reserved for guests and observers.
--
Well that says it all really. All representitives of real countries sit in their offical seats and all others sit in the visitors' seats - but don't forget your invitation!

UK

pre 13 godina

Serbia's policies: Let's talk and negotiate, but I don't want you in the same room with me.
(KU, 10 September 2010 14:07)

Actually I think you will find that K Albanianss policy is lets talk and negotiate as long as we can dictate what is talked about. If you want to talk about the real issues that effect Serbia then we will not sit down with you.

doodah

pre 13 godina

at the end of the day, the K-albanians had to take seat as visitors.
(Jovan, 10 September 2010 12:51)
They entered as guests, remained as guests, and left as guests.
"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."

INDEPENDANCE GRANTED

pre 13 godina

Vuk Jeremic wants to assure this Council that Serbia stands ready to flexibly engage in all SINCERITY, for our intent is neither to freeze the conflict, nor to triumph or to SUBJUGATE,"

Really?

Where’s your sincerity Vuk?
The flexibility YOU often talk about?

Here’s an attempt at quite the opposite.............. for the world to see.......... Let me remind you all what SUBJUGATE really means: to bring under complete control or subjection; conquer; master to make submissive or subservient; enslave.

Example being what are you elected officials doing here? Leave the hall you’re not invited.

Staff

pre 13 godina

Fact is they are the winners from international gathering.
(Observer, 10 September 2010 16:34)

Hold your horses now buddy...Winner of WHAT?? Winner that the whole international community is getting fed up with Kosovo? We see no-one else winner here except Serbia itself. Serbia wanted to come back to negotiation table and they got it. May be that they had to take away some text but what the heck, absolutely nothing, and I say it again NOTHING has changed. According to 2/3 of the world countries and about 90% of world population, Kosovo is a Serbian southern province. Serbia has de fact full control oven 35% of the territory, Eulex decides for the rest under 1244 and Unmik. And now for the grand final of my text: The K Albanians dont see that they have been fooled to keep quiet, travel back to thier beloved home and stay there. Because as all readers here may have noticed. Since Serbia changed their text of this famous resolution, UNGA did not take up ANYTHING about resolution 1244 that is Allah, God and father of Kosovo and very much in full force. I mean, hey, all congratulations to Serbia, their people and last but not least, Serbias paid international experts and counsellors. Extremely well played. It seems like you are going to get this Kosovo-deal into goal. We will see.

From Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 13 godina

I must credit the Kosovar delegation for being defiant to Vuc Jeremic's demands that the Kosovar delegation not be invited to the UN assembly. Besides Jeremic has to learn that not everyone shall defer to him.

t

pre 13 godina

-"At the end of the day, Serbia could not have them removed from the assembly hall."
(doodah, 10 September 2010 13:40)
===…==

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.
(Peggy-

At the end of the day Serbia capitulated and Kosovo left the room with more than what they entered with.

It's ironic that some posters here who are calling for negotiations are insulting the same people they want to negotiate with.

Indicative of your leadership.

quasistate

pre 13 godina

Jut another display of Albanian classless arrogance. They are dying to get into the UN, just dying, that they force their way into a chamber where they have no right to be. And as usual, to save face, mama America saves its little kid.

CLP

pre 13 godina

have said it a hundred times here, Belgrade will not talk with a war criminal like Thaci, who 10 years ago was murdering Serbs in Kosovo. Belgrade wants him to face a criminal court, not sit across from him at a table. Would the Albanians ever have shook hands and sat down to have talks with Milosevic?
(winston, 10 September 2010 15:45)

Winston we actually tried Rugova did try many years peaceful way and asked for being treated like humans but no Milosevic said no he had other plans.

Serbia calls for negotiations but does not want to talk with Albanians ok so with who then. Sorry but they have to do this with Albanians and for now Thaqi is one who represents them. True maybe not best person but better than Harajdinaj (let Albanians choose their leaders)

KU

pre 13 godina

"Actually I think you will find that K Albanianss policy is lets talk and negotiate as long as we can dictate what is talked about. If you want to talk about the real issues that effect Serbia then we will not sit down with you."
(UK, 10 September 2010 15:55)

I think that you got it wrong. The Albanians are dictating only what NOT to talk about. Everything else is open to discussion from who came first, the chicken or the egg, to the meaning of liff, the universe and everything. I did not understand the last sentence of your comment. Does it mean that you will sit down with the Albanians only if they want to talk about the fake issues that affect Serbia?

Daniel

pre 13 godina

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what happened here. The Kosovo Albanians violated the rules and they had to suffer the consequences, plain and simple. Once they were invited, the problem was solved. Funny, though, that the UN office is in New York, USA, and the Albanians couldn't get in!

Skifteri

pre 13 godina

What are the Albanians crying about? Kosovo is, according to the vast majority on earth, a Serbian province and not an own country. Therefore it is of course not, and can not be, a UN member. I cant help smiling a bit when one see the Albanian delegation like small boys that do not understand anything among all the real politicians. It looks like they have just fell from a tractor and grumbles "Where is US to help us". And then US steps in and say "Well, you can sit here as a visitor". Then Hyseini sits there and thinks "Oh my God how big this arena is, wonder if they sell popcorn here" So funny I must say.
(Staff, 10 September 2010 14:45)


What is funny is you famous prediction for guaranteed ICJ victory, you would make a swell oracle of B92 readers.

arti

pre 13 godina

Little boys sit in a small room-while big boys hold a stick. albanian officials again show how patetic they are.
(lids, 10 September 2010 16:40)
You right about the stick, however you or serb camp want's to spin it Kosova Albanians were the ines that got their time worthy there.

rolerkoster

pre 13 godina

What a progress in relations between Serbia and Kosovo ... for me as an EU citizen it looks exactly like Serbia is navigating it's own negotiation position towards the a no-win-situation which has finally resulted in Kosovo's declaration of independence.

karlsdad

pre 13 godina

In English, "Silent but Deadly" refers to abdominal gas, Observer. Are you sure you want to label the Albanian delegation that? In any case, not a surprise that Pristina's thugs would force their way into the UNGA, their method has always been force, they cannot help themselves. Soon, these ex-KLA'ers will have to go, and Pristina will need find some more respectable representation.

Danilo

pre 13 godina

"It's ironic that some posters here who are calling for negotiations are insulting the same people they want to negotiate with. "


This is the saddest thing about all this. What's wrong with someone when they're shouting for negotiations and insulting the people they want to negotiate with in the same breath.

remarkable stupidity, arrogance and, frankly, childishness.

Jim

pre 13 godina

Anyone can watch the play from the gallery, but don't forget that you are not an actor until you are on the stage. Still, I hope they enjoyed the performance. The UNGA is quite a spectacle!

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Hashim Thaci, Skender Hyseni and Fatmir Sejdiu, were seated in the gallery, in seats reserved for guests and observers.
=====================

And I sit as an observer at the Australian Open but I will never be Ivanovic.
Don't you think that there is a huge difference between being a performer from observer?

Amer

pre 13 godina

'What a pity! Had taken the official route like Slovakia!
(Ron, 10 September 2010 16:30)'

If they had wanted to separate from the Czechs they would have.

pss

pre 13 godina

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what happened here. The Kosovo Albanians violated the rules and they had to suffer the consequences, plain and simple. Once they were invited, the problem was solved. Funny, though, that the UN office is in New York, USA, and the Albanians couldn't get in!
(Daniel, 11 September 2010 12:10
Ironic you read the same news as everyone else and come away with a totally different story.
The Kosovo representatives were in, legally, but Serbia made a show and had to be shown that they were there legally and they were allowed to stay.
Funny, though, in the UN headquarters where Serbia is a full fledged member, they were powerless to have the Kosovo authorities removed.
Now explain why being a UN member should be so important that Kosovo should give up their stance on independence!

Amer

pre 13 godina

I read a a story about Pacolli at the UN session mostly about his being miffed that the official delegation didn't coordinate its lobbying efforts with his team's) where he says there was an informal vote taken to allow the (official) Kosovo delegation to be present in the hall. Russia and other members of the SC had agreed to Kosovo being present, which made Jeremic "nervous." The seats the Kosovo officials were in had been assigned under UN protocol, so what Jeremic hoped to accomplish with his stalk-out is unclear. Maybe it was more important to impress people in Belgrade than the representatives of the world who had to wait over two hours for the session to start?

JohnnyC

pre 13 godina

At the end of the day the had to sit there silent and will always sit there silent because they don't have right to speak. Observe, yes, if invited but not to participate.
(Peggy, 10 September 2010 15:32)

So what? The resolution was so watered down as to be meaningless, not the tough statement that was initially intended. Understandable that the Pristina government should be there. Also understandable that as a non-member they wouldn't have seat with the other members.

Colin

pre 13 godina

Oh lookey...

Here is Mr Black and White of the Balkans again. Roberto.

"All serbs are bad. Everybody else is good.

All Serb war crimes are bad and evil. Any other atrocities seen or found should be ignored until every evil Serb is punished."

This was your intent in a recent thread, and I'm sure your intent here is similar.

You sir, are a pathetic individual...

trudsaam

pre 13 godina

Funny, though, in the UN headquarters where Serbia is a full fledged member, they were powerless to have the Kosovo authorities removed.
Now explain why being a UN member should be so important that Kosovo should give up their stance on independence!
(pss)
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The "Kosovo authorities" were not present at the UN, FYI. Albanian observers were present.

Peggy

pre 13 godina

Also understandable that as a non-member they wouldn't have seat with the other members.
(JohnnyC, 11 September 2010 09:05)
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Yep, agree but only if they are invited which they were not initially, putting their 'friends' in an awkward position.

What do we call uninvited guests again?

Peggy

pre 13 godina

@Roberto,

"the blgd regime isn't proud -- it is arrogant, it is belligerent, it is unrepentant. it also does not know how to behave in a civilized way even at the UN, which is saying a lot!"
======================

At least they don't go where they are not invited, unlike your lot.
Pretty low thing to do to come univited and put your 'friends' in an awkward position having to invite you then and there.
Do you think that this is a civilised way to behave?
Serbia had every right to object. Nothing uncivilised about that.
Roberto, get ready for a lot more of these episodes. "Kosova" will always have to be invited there because they will never have a seat and even if they manage to get invitations every time what good is that? They cannot participate anyway.
It's like going to court to observe the trial which you have no input in at all. It gets a bit boring in the end.