Albania won’t be submitting Kosovo resolution

Like the Albanian kids on this site, Sali does not understand the right to declare and the right to secede.

(winston, 6 September 2010, 15:27)

Winston, since you seem to be a “man of wisdom”, please segregate them for me!!
So from what I can understand from your posting is that the international law allowed us to declare independence but we need one more stamp (from you), that of secession.
Please Winston, find me a logical (albeit a very hypothetical – actually imaginary) example where you are allowed to declare independence but not secede. How are these two segregated (I guess they seem to be in your world)?

If Kosovo declared independence, confirmed not to be against the international rules what else is needed Winston?
Or isn’t it a simple a well tuned selective hearing that the pro-Serbian camp has.
You know: the simple, “If I don’t like that I’ll ignore that”.
I guess Winston, you and the pro-Serbian clan wish you never asked for ICJ opinion. But hey, you can’t blame us for that. It was Serbian leadership’s idea.
You asked for it, you got it, live with it.

Like the Albanian kids on this site, Sali does not understand the right to declare and the right to secede. Is this so difficult to understand? I say we start a collection here to get money to buy Pristina and Tirana a dictionary. But even then, they will interpret definitions the way it suits them. Anyway, nice to see that the Albanians in Albania are helping Albanians in Kosovo. Who says neighbors can't get along in the Balkans?

The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.

The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59)

Did Serbia asked the question the right to secede to the ICJ or it's Courts faults for not answering a question it was never asked? As far as Kosovo Albanians are concerned they have the right to declare independence and secede. Serbia contests that. Serbia addressed the matter into ICJ but forgot to ask for the right to secede. It's not K-Albanians fault that you have incompetent politicians!

A DECISIVE FAILURE for the temp. inst. in Pristina, also because Tirana's post-ICJ lobbying resulted only in recognition from a US bannana republic like Honduras.

"The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59) "

Why is it so hard to accept that the ICJ didn't rule secession was illegal, then? They essentially said, "the declaration is legal because there's no international law that says it's illegal." Why wouldn't the same reasoning apply to secession/independence itself?

The Serbian team spent most of its time arguing, in both the written and oral statements, that the secession itself is illegal, that the permission of the parent country is an absolute requirement for independence. There must have been some reason they didn't dare ask for a ruling on this essential point specifically, don't you think?

A DECISIVE FAILURE for the temp. inst. in Pristina, also because Tirana's post-ICJ lobbying resulted only in recognition from a US bannana republic like Honduras.
(highduke, 6 September 2010 15:44

You must have missed the bigger picture. Just last week Josefina Topalli (Albani House Speaker) received an official letter from the current president of CARICOM member countries, that they will recognize Kosova as a full package. Also, PM Thaci is in Qatar and the recognition it will be handed to him personally before he heads towards New York.

"The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59) "

Declaring independence and seceding goes hand in hand.
If declaring independence is not illegal, how can session be illegal?

The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59)

Yes Winston, where is the answer to the question which was never asked?

It would have helped if Serbia had actually asked the ICJ to rule on the secession as opposed to the declaration of independence. This is exactly what Serbia asked the ICJ "Accordance with international law of the unilateral declaration of independence in respect of Kosovo (Request for Advisory Opinion)" and that is precisely what the ICJ answered. The ICJ answered what it was asked; if Serbia asked the wrong question then only Serbia is to blame not the ICJ, who you seem to blaming.

"You must have missed the bigger picture. Just last week Josefina Topalli (Albani House Speaker) received an official letter from the current president of CARICOM member countries, that they will recognize Kosova as a full package.


(Kosova-USA, 6 September 2010 19:00) "

Kosovo really doesn't actually have to have the official documents in hand for anything - statements of intent to recognize ("the docs are in the mail!") will provide the extra credibility it needs for the assembly meeting.

I wonder if governments are beginning to break now (instead of waiting until after Sept. 9) as a way of telling Tadic resistance is futile, he should just put on a brave face and get on with things, to give him a chance for a more dignified ending of the struggle.

Someone needs to ask Sali Berisha if his country is closing down those terrorist training centers and death camps that his country maintained in the 90s.

Niko, no it is not your fault you have incompetent politicians, after all, they are former KLA terrorists. What kind of political skills could they posses?

Like the Albanian kids on this site, Sali does not understand the right to declare and the right to secede. Is this so difficult to understand? I say we start a collection here to get money to buy Pristina and Tirana a dictionary. But even then, they will interpret definitions the way it suits them. Anyway, nice to see that the Albanians in Albania are helping Albanians in Kosovo. Who says neighbors can't get along in the Balkans?

The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.

A DECISIVE FAILURE for the temp. inst. in Pristina, also because Tirana's post-ICJ lobbying resulted only in recognition from a US bannana republic like Honduras.

Like the Albanian kids on this site, Sali does not understand the right to declare and the right to secede.

(winston, 6 September 2010, 15:27)

Winston, since you seem to be a “man of wisdom”, please segregate them for me!!
So from what I can understand from your posting is that the international law allowed us to declare independence but we need one more stamp (from you), that of secession.
Please Winston, find me a logical (albeit a very hypothetical – actually imaginary) example where you are allowed to declare independence but not secede. How are these two segregated (I guess they seem to be in your world)?

If Kosovo declared independence, confirmed not to be against the international rules what else is needed Winston?
Or isn’t it a simple a well tuned selective hearing that the pro-Serbian camp has.
You know: the simple, “If I don’t like that I’ll ignore that”.
I guess Winston, you and the pro-Serbian clan wish you never asked for ICJ opinion. But hey, you can’t blame us for that. It was Serbian leadership’s idea.
You asked for it, you got it, live with it.

Someone needs to ask Sali Berisha if his country is closing down those terrorist training centers and death camps that his country maintained in the 90s.

Niko, no it is not your fault you have incompetent politicians, after all, they are former KLA terrorists. What kind of political skills could they posses?

"The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59) "

Why is it so hard to accept that the ICJ didn't rule secession was illegal, then? They essentially said, "the declaration is legal because there's no international law that says it's illegal." Why wouldn't the same reasoning apply to secession/independence itself?

The Serbian team spent most of its time arguing, in both the written and oral statements, that the secession itself is illegal, that the permission of the parent country is an absolute requirement for independence. There must have been some reason they didn't dare ask for a ruling on this essential point specifically, don't you think?

A DECISIVE FAILURE for the temp. inst. in Pristina, also because Tirana's post-ICJ lobbying resulted only in recognition from a US bannana republic like Honduras.
(highduke, 6 September 2010 15:44

You must have missed the bigger picture. Just last week Josefina Topalli (Albani House Speaker) received an official letter from the current president of CARICOM member countries, that they will recognize Kosova as a full package. Also, PM Thaci is in Qatar and the recognition it will be handed to him personally before he heads towards New York.

The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59)

Did Serbia asked the question the right to secede to the ICJ or it's Courts faults for not answering a question it was never asked? As far as Kosovo Albanians are concerned they have the right to declare independence and secede. Serbia contests that. Serbia addressed the matter into ICJ but forgot to ask for the right to secede. It's not K-Albanians fault that you have incompetent politicians!

The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59)

Yes Winston, where is the answer to the question which was never asked?

It would have helped if Serbia had actually asked the ICJ to rule on the secession as opposed to the declaration of independence. This is exactly what Serbia asked the ICJ "Accordance with international law of the unilateral declaration of independence in respect of Kosovo (Request for Advisory Opinion)" and that is precisely what the ICJ answered. The ICJ answered what it was asked; if Serbia asked the wrong question then only Serbia is to blame not the ICJ, who you seem to blaming.

"You must have missed the bigger picture. Just last week Josefina Topalli (Albani House Speaker) received an official letter from the current president of CARICOM member countries, that they will recognize Kosova as a full package.


(Kosova-USA, 6 September 2010 19:00) "

Kosovo really doesn't actually have to have the official documents in hand for anything - statements of intent to recognize ("the docs are in the mail!") will provide the extra credibility it needs for the assembly meeting.

I wonder if governments are beginning to break now (instead of waiting until after Sept. 9) as a way of telling Tadic resistance is futile, he should just put on a brave face and get on with things, to give him a chance for a more dignified ending of the struggle.

"The Kosovo Albanian DECLARATION was not illegal BUT, the ICJ did not give its opinion on whether the Albanian SECESSION is. Why is that so hard to accept? It's black and white. I did not make it up.
(winston, 6 September 2010 16:59) "

Declaring independence and seceding goes hand in hand.
If declaring independence is not illegal, how can session be illegal?