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Tuesday, 24.08.2010.

10:06

"Turkey has hidden Balkan agenda"

RS PM Milorad Dodik has stated that Serbia does not have a mandate to solve political issues on behalf of the Bosnian Serb entity.

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pyrros

pre 13 godina

about my ethnicity, i am born greek, but later developed pro-slav feelings, as far as albanian-ism is concerned, i never had any affiliation with this "sport".

sj

pre 13 godina

beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.
(HB, 25 August 2010 11:50)

Who has a professional army? Croatia has 600 professional soldiers and Albanian; well there must be hundreds of professional goats. It people like you that are so deluded that think that Croatia or Albania will start a war and NATO will come to the rescue.

Read my lips carefully, NATO will NEVER allow; let me repeat that for you in case you have a problem with hearing; NATO will NEVER allow third class so called armies to start a bar room brawl let alone a war.

“. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'. I love theses statements! I’m sure that Dodik is shivering in his boots at this very moment.

Two things you have to get used to; first, this is not the 1990s and secondly Serbs have not finished with Croatia yet. In fact the EU is doing our job for us right now and here is the big secret. Croatia either repair Serbs houses and pay compensation for any use of their lands (this is not a joke or made up either) or if Serbs are afraid to return they must be payed out in full with interest starting from the early 1990s by the Croatian government.

Here is the real clincher – if they cannot do this and it is common knowledge that Croatia is BROKE then they will have to trade land to Serbia so that these people can be resettled on new serb territory. You guys should listen to your Ustashi radio programs – they reveal much more than the Croatian government.

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'." (HB)

-- No one is going to fight the war you envision. At worst, RS will be diplomatically isolated. At best it will be a quasi-legal parastate like Kosovo. Your lust for destruction is troubling, but indicative of someone who probably spends too much time playing video games.

Milan

pre 13 godina

"I beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.
(HB, 25 August 2010 11:50)"

HB,

It is very unhealthy to carry so much hate and anger with you. You are just another computer warrior who anonymously can find the courage to make some threats. Please explain to me why RS cannot declare independence from BiH? Is it because of Dayton? What is the legal difference between Dayton and UNSC 1244? Who are going to level Banja Luka? NATO? Croatia? Turkey? How do you know for sure that Serbia will look the other way?

The Greek

pre 13 godina

LMAO with the Greek...
he is the most amusing poster .... by far!
(pyrros, 25 August 2010 11:31)

It is interesting to get compliments, by Albanians who live permanently in Greece (like Pyrros) and hide their true Albanian identity...

HB

pre 13 godina

I beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.

The Greek

pre 13 godina

To method:

Having the most powerful military forces in the region (by far), and having the most developed economy in the region (by far) and having the most strategic location in the region (by far), my solution for my country is to get EU loans (whenever I need to) and continue be like that (by far). Because unlike your little country, my country might be a large-dept country (a little more than US or Italy) but it is trully not a weak country. So you better not compare the uncomparable... I know the truth hearts but it still the truth.

sj

pre 13 godina

The only one who has (more or less) a hidden agenda is the RS-Serbs who want to secede from Bosnia and try to obstruct Bosnia wherever it is possible in order to accomplish that goal. But they will not suceed. Bosnia will prevail and if somebody tries to challange that just expediate its own demise. Turkey and Croatia will make sure that RS will never ever will become independent.
(JohnC., 24 August 2010 10:25)


Turkey and Croatia; give me strength to read this nonsensical rubbish. What is Turkey going to do? Flood the Balkans with canned Okra? Oh you might think that Turkey has the largest army in NATO. There is no point in having a large army when you cannot fight 1 kilometre outside your borders – as has been proven with the Kurds. In fact the Kurds have whipped the Turks to a standstill in northern Iraq. Turkey has lost dozens and dozens of troops to Kurd insurgents. What is Turkey going to use to transport troops to the Balkans? Canoes?

Turkey has too many problems in its backyard to worry about the Bosniaks except to pay lip service at best.

Now to Croatia; it has a standing military of 30,000 of which 600 are professional soldiers. Currently there are 500 in Afghanistan. The Croatian army is only capable of crowd control let alone invading RS. However, I understand that Stipe Mesic has a personal trainer to get fit to lead the invasion party, ha, ha, ha.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

JohnC

I recomend you read the following article by Matthew Parish:

"Republika Srpska: After Independence"

"... The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration..."
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/comment/23797/

Remember, Republika Srpska is a special case : )

Matthew

pre 13 godina

JohnC,

Aren't you being a tad naive?

The Croatians want their part of Bosnia as much as the Serbs do. At least the Croatian political parties in Bosnia claim that.

Don't you even remember all the secret meetings and agreements between Milosevic and Tudjman?

Mike

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” [Dodik] pointed out.

-- Which will completely undermine Bosnia's multiethnic character, so I fail to see how this is helpful. Such a case of re-Ottomanizing Bosnia only pushes RS further away and galvanizes the Croatian separatist movement. If people keep saying Bosnia was the heart of Yugoslavia and is itself a "mini Yugoslavia", it needs to act like Yugoslavia instead of Siladzic's cadre looking like a bunch of Milosevic-era centrists.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

no one of us (i am non-yugoslav myself) will ever understand how really close all those peoples are... (Croats/Serbs/Muslim-Slavs/FYROM-Slavs)
(pyrros, 24 August 2010 14:41

The article is about Turkey's interference in Bosnia's internal affairs and not about Yugoslavia.

We all remember when Karadzic was arrested the streets of sarajevo were filled with people waving turkish flags-although the turks had nothing to do with his arrest.This was a clear message by the Bosnians about their allegiance to Turkey.

I agree with the Greek's posting regarding Turkey's problems with the Kurds.
But I think Turkey's biggest problem is creeping Islamization and, unfortunately, the Turkish military, which used to be the arbiter of such things has also, to a large degree, also been Islamized with many dissenting officers either expelled from the army or imprisoned.

However,Islamization will destroy Turkey's wealth as Islamization has destroyed the wealth of Iran; the Islamist simply cannot fathom the connection between the personal freedom of a Republic and the wealth it creates.

With regard to Bosnia turkey will continue with its plans to establish a firm base of influence in a balkan country.

Lets not forget that turkey has already got strong links with Albania and Kosovo not to mention fyrom with whom has established lobby groups both in US and Australia trying to counteract the influence of the Greek lobbies.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

Johnc, The Greek, Leonidas

when no-yugoslavs stop interfering with things they dont understand, the whole region will be in a better shape.

no one of us (i am non-yugoslav myself) will ever understand how really close all those peoples are... (Croats/Serbs/Muslim-Slavs/FYROM-Slavs)

TP

pre 13 godina

‘Bosnia will prevail...’
(JohnC)

Prevail as what?

Bosnia-Herzegovina is, in my view, one thing and one thing only – the natural heart of Yugoslavia.

Look at a map. It even looks like a heart!

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Croatia needs just 24h to get to Banja Luka if necessary. The only thing what stopped Croatia back in 1995 was the Dayton agreement. Funny, that Serbs try to erode now the only thing which saved their rears, but just give it a try again you will see how fast we are back to Summer 1995, if Serbs vulnerate the peace treat, along with Turkish NATO forces. They will/would finish the job, mercilessly, and Bosnia will function.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” he pointed out.
B92

I totally agree with this statement.

Turkey's plans in Bosnia are to consolidate the gains the Islamists and their sponsors achieved with the wars in the 1990s.

Unlike the lies,propaganda and spin of the Clinton mafia
about their liberal humanitarian intervention in Bosnia the foreign jihadists had an entirely different vision than Clinton which was
a clearly islamic state in Europe to be used in their future campaigns not only against other balkan countries but also core EU countries.

In the words of Turkey's foreign minister Ahmed Davutoglou" Turkey's foreign policy will be aiming at re-establishing its spheres of influence which she exercised under the Ottoman empire".

The Greek

pre 13 godina

First of all, Croatia is incapable of "making sure" anything. A small, weak country, that nobody asks about anything.

Turkey of course has her own politicies - relating to Bosnia. And a united muslim Bosnia inside the Balkans and Europe of course is benefiting Turkey's policy.

But Turkey has so many problems to solve - relating her own internal policy matters - that a small diplomatic "reaction" by Serbia would definetely let her stay behind.

Right now in Turkey, the Kurdish separatists are totally out of control - achieving victories one after the other in Turkey. Turkey is terrified about her eastern territories, due to her total incapability to defeat the Kurds militarily after 30 years. And right now, the Kurds are even openly attacking Turkish military camps - killing dozens of soldiers at one hit. Turkey has secretally started negotiations with the jailed Kurdish leader, to finish the war as soon as possible. So don't be afraid of Turkey, she has much more important issues to solve. Bosnia is a Serb backyard, and with small moves by Serbia it can be controlled totally.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” he pointed out.

There is nothing "hidden" when both, Turkey and Croatia say that they will uphold the Dayton peace treaty, making sure that nobody can back out.

The only one who has (more or less) a hidden agenda is the RS-Serbs who want to secede from Bosnia and try to obstruct Bosnia wherever it is possible in order to accomplish that goal. But they will not suceed. Bosnia will prevail and if somebody tries to challange that just expediate its own demise. Turkey and Croatia will make sure that RS will never ever will become independent.

The Greek

pre 13 godina

First of all, Croatia is incapable of "making sure" anything. A small, weak country, that nobody asks about anything.

Turkey of course has her own politicies - relating to Bosnia. And a united muslim Bosnia inside the Balkans and Europe of course is benefiting Turkey's policy.

But Turkey has so many problems to solve - relating her own internal policy matters - that a small diplomatic "reaction" by Serbia would definetely let her stay behind.

Right now in Turkey, the Kurdish separatists are totally out of control - achieving victories one after the other in Turkey. Turkey is terrified about her eastern territories, due to her total incapability to defeat the Kurds militarily after 30 years. And right now, the Kurds are even openly attacking Turkish military camps - killing dozens of soldiers at one hit. Turkey has secretally started negotiations with the jailed Kurdish leader, to finish the war as soon as possible. So don't be afraid of Turkey, she has much more important issues to solve. Bosnia is a Serb backyard, and with small moves by Serbia it can be controlled totally.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” he pointed out.

There is nothing "hidden" when both, Turkey and Croatia say that they will uphold the Dayton peace treaty, making sure that nobody can back out.

The only one who has (more or less) a hidden agenda is the RS-Serbs who want to secede from Bosnia and try to obstruct Bosnia wherever it is possible in order to accomplish that goal. But they will not suceed. Bosnia will prevail and if somebody tries to challange that just expediate its own demise. Turkey and Croatia will make sure that RS will never ever will become independent.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” he pointed out.
B92

I totally agree with this statement.

Turkey's plans in Bosnia are to consolidate the gains the Islamists and their sponsors achieved with the wars in the 1990s.

Unlike the lies,propaganda and spin of the Clinton mafia
about their liberal humanitarian intervention in Bosnia the foreign jihadists had an entirely different vision than Clinton which was
a clearly islamic state in Europe to be used in their future campaigns not only against other balkan countries but also core EU countries.

In the words of Turkey's foreign minister Ahmed Davutoglou" Turkey's foreign policy will be aiming at re-establishing its spheres of influence which she exercised under the Ottoman empire".

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Croatia needs just 24h to get to Banja Luka if necessary. The only thing what stopped Croatia back in 1995 was the Dayton agreement. Funny, that Serbs try to erode now the only thing which saved their rears, but just give it a try again you will see how fast we are back to Summer 1995, if Serbs vulnerate the peace treat, along with Turkish NATO forces. They will/would finish the job, mercilessly, and Bosnia will function.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

no one of us (i am non-yugoslav myself) will ever understand how really close all those peoples are... (Croats/Serbs/Muslim-Slavs/FYROM-Slavs)
(pyrros, 24 August 2010 14:41

The article is about Turkey's interference in Bosnia's internal affairs and not about Yugoslavia.

We all remember when Karadzic was arrested the streets of sarajevo were filled with people waving turkish flags-although the turks had nothing to do with his arrest.This was a clear message by the Bosnians about their allegiance to Turkey.

I agree with the Greek's posting regarding Turkey's problems with the Kurds.
But I think Turkey's biggest problem is creeping Islamization and, unfortunately, the Turkish military, which used to be the arbiter of such things has also, to a large degree, also been Islamized with many dissenting officers either expelled from the army or imprisoned.

However,Islamization will destroy Turkey's wealth as Islamization has destroyed the wealth of Iran; the Islamist simply cannot fathom the connection between the personal freedom of a Republic and the wealth it creates.

With regard to Bosnia turkey will continue with its plans to establish a firm base of influence in a balkan country.

Lets not forget that turkey has already got strong links with Albania and Kosovo not to mention fyrom with whom has established lobby groups both in US and Australia trying to counteract the influence of the Greek lobbies.

The Greek

pre 13 godina

To method:

Having the most powerful military forces in the region (by far), and having the most developed economy in the region (by far) and having the most strategic location in the region (by far), my solution for my country is to get EU loans (whenever I need to) and continue be like that (by far). Because unlike your little country, my country might be a large-dept country (a little more than US or Italy) but it is trully not a weak country. So you better not compare the uncomparable... I know the truth hearts but it still the truth.

Matthew

pre 13 godina

JohnC,

Aren't you being a tad naive?

The Croatians want their part of Bosnia as much as the Serbs do. At least the Croatian political parties in Bosnia claim that.

Don't you even remember all the secret meetings and agreements between Milosevic and Tudjman?

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

JohnC

I recomend you read the following article by Matthew Parish:

"Republika Srpska: After Independence"

"... The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration..."
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/comment/23797/

Remember, Republika Srpska is a special case : )

The Greek

pre 13 godina

LMAO with the Greek...
he is the most amusing poster .... by far!
(pyrros, 25 August 2010 11:31)

It is interesting to get compliments, by Albanians who live permanently in Greece (like Pyrros) and hide their true Albanian identity...

sj

pre 13 godina

The only one who has (more or less) a hidden agenda is the RS-Serbs who want to secede from Bosnia and try to obstruct Bosnia wherever it is possible in order to accomplish that goal. But they will not suceed. Bosnia will prevail and if somebody tries to challange that just expediate its own demise. Turkey and Croatia will make sure that RS will never ever will become independent.
(JohnC., 24 August 2010 10:25)


Turkey and Croatia; give me strength to read this nonsensical rubbish. What is Turkey going to do? Flood the Balkans with canned Okra? Oh you might think that Turkey has the largest army in NATO. There is no point in having a large army when you cannot fight 1 kilometre outside your borders – as has been proven with the Kurds. In fact the Kurds have whipped the Turks to a standstill in northern Iraq. Turkey has lost dozens and dozens of troops to Kurd insurgents. What is Turkey going to use to transport troops to the Balkans? Canoes?

Turkey has too many problems in its backyard to worry about the Bosniaks except to pay lip service at best.

Now to Croatia; it has a standing military of 30,000 of which 600 are professional soldiers. Currently there are 500 in Afghanistan. The Croatian army is only capable of crowd control let alone invading RS. However, I understand that Stipe Mesic has a personal trainer to get fit to lead the invasion party, ha, ha, ha.

TP

pre 13 godina

‘Bosnia will prevail...’
(JohnC)

Prevail as what?

Bosnia-Herzegovina is, in my view, one thing and one thing only – the natural heart of Yugoslavia.

Look at a map. It even looks like a heart!

Mike

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” [Dodik] pointed out.

-- Which will completely undermine Bosnia's multiethnic character, so I fail to see how this is helpful. Such a case of re-Ottomanizing Bosnia only pushes RS further away and galvanizes the Croatian separatist movement. If people keep saying Bosnia was the heart of Yugoslavia and is itself a "mini Yugoslavia", it needs to act like Yugoslavia instead of Siladzic's cadre looking like a bunch of Milosevic-era centrists.

HB

pre 13 godina

I beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

Johnc, The Greek, Leonidas

when no-yugoslavs stop interfering with things they dont understand, the whole region will be in a better shape.

no one of us (i am non-yugoslav myself) will ever understand how really close all those peoples are... (Croats/Serbs/Muslim-Slavs/FYROM-Slavs)

Milan

pre 13 godina

"I beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.
(HB, 25 August 2010 11:50)"

HB,

It is very unhealthy to carry so much hate and anger with you. You are just another computer warrior who anonymously can find the courage to make some threats. Please explain to me why RS cannot declare independence from BiH? Is it because of Dayton? What is the legal difference between Dayton and UNSC 1244? Who are going to level Banja Luka? NATO? Croatia? Turkey? How do you know for sure that Serbia will look the other way?

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'." (HB)

-- No one is going to fight the war you envision. At worst, RS will be diplomatically isolated. At best it will be a quasi-legal parastate like Kosovo. Your lust for destruction is troubling, but indicative of someone who probably spends too much time playing video games.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

about my ethnicity, i am born greek, but later developed pro-slav feelings, as far as albanian-ism is concerned, i never had any affiliation with this "sport".

sj

pre 13 godina

beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.
(HB, 25 August 2010 11:50)

Who has a professional army? Croatia has 600 professional soldiers and Albanian; well there must be hundreds of professional goats. It people like you that are so deluded that think that Croatia or Albania will start a war and NATO will come to the rescue.

Read my lips carefully, NATO will NEVER allow; let me repeat that for you in case you have a problem with hearing; NATO will NEVER allow third class so called armies to start a bar room brawl let alone a war.

“. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'. I love theses statements! I’m sure that Dodik is shivering in his boots at this very moment.

Two things you have to get used to; first, this is not the 1990s and secondly Serbs have not finished with Croatia yet. In fact the EU is doing our job for us right now and here is the big secret. Croatia either repair Serbs houses and pay compensation for any use of their lands (this is not a joke or made up either) or if Serbs are afraid to return they must be payed out in full with interest starting from the early 1990s by the Croatian government.

Here is the real clincher – if they cannot do this and it is common knowledge that Croatia is BROKE then they will have to trade land to Serbia so that these people can be resettled on new serb territory. You guys should listen to your Ustashi radio programs – they reveal much more than the Croatian government.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” he pointed out.

There is nothing "hidden" when both, Turkey and Croatia say that they will uphold the Dayton peace treaty, making sure that nobody can back out.

The only one who has (more or less) a hidden agenda is the RS-Serbs who want to secede from Bosnia and try to obstruct Bosnia wherever it is possible in order to accomplish that goal. But they will not suceed. Bosnia will prevail and if somebody tries to challange that just expediate its own demise. Turkey and Croatia will make sure that RS will never ever will become independent.

The Greek

pre 13 godina

First of all, Croatia is incapable of "making sure" anything. A small, weak country, that nobody asks about anything.

Turkey of course has her own politicies - relating to Bosnia. And a united muslim Bosnia inside the Balkans and Europe of course is benefiting Turkey's policy.

But Turkey has so many problems to solve - relating her own internal policy matters - that a small diplomatic "reaction" by Serbia would definetely let her stay behind.

Right now in Turkey, the Kurdish separatists are totally out of control - achieving victories one after the other in Turkey. Turkey is terrified about her eastern territories, due to her total incapability to defeat the Kurds militarily after 30 years. And right now, the Kurds are even openly attacking Turkish military camps - killing dozens of soldiers at one hit. Turkey has secretally started negotiations with the jailed Kurdish leader, to finish the war as soon as possible. So don't be afraid of Turkey, she has much more important issues to solve. Bosnia is a Serb backyard, and with small moves by Serbia it can be controlled totally.

JohnC.

pre 13 godina

Croatia needs just 24h to get to Banja Luka if necessary. The only thing what stopped Croatia back in 1995 was the Dayton agreement. Funny, that Serbs try to erode now the only thing which saved their rears, but just give it a try again you will see how fast we are back to Summer 1995, if Serbs vulnerate the peace treat, along with Turkish NATO forces. They will/would finish the job, mercilessly, and Bosnia will function.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

Johnc, The Greek, Leonidas

when no-yugoslavs stop interfering with things they dont understand, the whole region will be in a better shape.

no one of us (i am non-yugoslav myself) will ever understand how really close all those peoples are... (Croats/Serbs/Muslim-Slavs/FYROM-Slavs)

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” he pointed out.
B92

I totally agree with this statement.

Turkey's plans in Bosnia are to consolidate the gains the Islamists and their sponsors achieved with the wars in the 1990s.

Unlike the lies,propaganda and spin of the Clinton mafia
about their liberal humanitarian intervention in Bosnia the foreign jihadists had an entirely different vision than Clinton which was
a clearly islamic state in Europe to be used in their future campaigns not only against other balkan countries but also core EU countries.

In the words of Turkey's foreign minister Ahmed Davutoglou" Turkey's foreign policy will be aiming at re-establishing its spheres of influence which she exercised under the Ottoman empire".

Matthew

pre 13 godina

JohnC,

Aren't you being a tad naive?

The Croatians want their part of Bosnia as much as the Serbs do. At least the Croatian political parties in Bosnia claim that.

Don't you even remember all the secret meetings and agreements between Milosevic and Tudjman?

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

JohnC

I recomend you read the following article by Matthew Parish:

"Republika Srpska: After Independence"

"... The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration..."
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/comment/23797/

Remember, Republika Srpska is a special case : )

Mike

pre 13 godina

“Turkey has a hidden goal – to create Bosnia to fit the Bosniaks and support Haris Silajdžić and Reis Mustafa Cerić’s concept according to which Bosnia-Herzegovina is a land of Bosniaks,” [Dodik] pointed out.

-- Which will completely undermine Bosnia's multiethnic character, so I fail to see how this is helpful. Such a case of re-Ottomanizing Bosnia only pushes RS further away and galvanizes the Croatian separatist movement. If people keep saying Bosnia was the heart of Yugoslavia and is itself a "mini Yugoslavia", it needs to act like Yugoslavia instead of Siladzic's cadre looking like a bunch of Milosevic-era centrists.

sj

pre 13 godina

The only one who has (more or less) a hidden agenda is the RS-Serbs who want to secede from Bosnia and try to obstruct Bosnia wherever it is possible in order to accomplish that goal. But they will not suceed. Bosnia will prevail and if somebody tries to challange that just expediate its own demise. Turkey and Croatia will make sure that RS will never ever will become independent.
(JohnC., 24 August 2010 10:25)


Turkey and Croatia; give me strength to read this nonsensical rubbish. What is Turkey going to do? Flood the Balkans with canned Okra? Oh you might think that Turkey has the largest army in NATO. There is no point in having a large army when you cannot fight 1 kilometre outside your borders – as has been proven with the Kurds. In fact the Kurds have whipped the Turks to a standstill in northern Iraq. Turkey has lost dozens and dozens of troops to Kurd insurgents. What is Turkey going to use to transport troops to the Balkans? Canoes?

Turkey has too many problems in its backyard to worry about the Bosniaks except to pay lip service at best.

Now to Croatia; it has a standing military of 30,000 of which 600 are professional soldiers. Currently there are 500 in Afghanistan. The Croatian army is only capable of crowd control let alone invading RS. However, I understand that Stipe Mesic has a personal trainer to get fit to lead the invasion party, ha, ha, ha.

Milan

pre 13 godina

"I beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.
(HB, 25 August 2010 11:50)"

HB,

It is very unhealthy to carry so much hate and anger with you. You are just another computer warrior who anonymously can find the courage to make some threats. Please explain to me why RS cannot declare independence from BiH? Is it because of Dayton? What is the legal difference between Dayton and UNSC 1244? Who are going to level Banja Luka? NATO? Croatia? Turkey? How do you know for sure that Serbia will look the other way?

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

no one of us (i am non-yugoslav myself) will ever understand how really close all those peoples are... (Croats/Serbs/Muslim-Slavs/FYROM-Slavs)
(pyrros, 24 August 2010 14:41

The article is about Turkey's interference in Bosnia's internal affairs and not about Yugoslavia.

We all remember when Karadzic was arrested the streets of sarajevo were filled with people waving turkish flags-although the turks had nothing to do with his arrest.This was a clear message by the Bosnians about their allegiance to Turkey.

I agree with the Greek's posting regarding Turkey's problems with the Kurds.
But I think Turkey's biggest problem is creeping Islamization and, unfortunately, the Turkish military, which used to be the arbiter of such things has also, to a large degree, also been Islamized with many dissenting officers either expelled from the army or imprisoned.

However,Islamization will destroy Turkey's wealth as Islamization has destroyed the wealth of Iran; the Islamist simply cannot fathom the connection between the personal freedom of a Republic and the wealth it creates.

With regard to Bosnia turkey will continue with its plans to establish a firm base of influence in a balkan country.

Lets not forget that turkey has already got strong links with Albania and Kosovo not to mention fyrom with whom has established lobby groups both in US and Australia trying to counteract the influence of the Greek lobbies.

HB

pre 13 godina

I beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.

TP

pre 13 godina

‘Bosnia will prevail...’
(JohnC)

Prevail as what?

Bosnia-Herzegovina is, in my view, one thing and one thing only – the natural heart of Yugoslavia.

Look at a map. It even looks like a heart!

Mike

pre 13 godina

"Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'." (HB)

-- No one is going to fight the war you envision. At worst, RS will be diplomatically isolated. At best it will be a quasi-legal parastate like Kosovo. Your lust for destruction is troubling, but indicative of someone who probably spends too much time playing video games.

The Greek

pre 13 godina

To method:

Having the most powerful military forces in the region (by far), and having the most developed economy in the region (by far) and having the most strategic location in the region (by far), my solution for my country is to get EU loans (whenever I need to) and continue be like that (by far). Because unlike your little country, my country might be a large-dept country (a little more than US or Italy) but it is trully not a weak country. So you better not compare the uncomparable... I know the truth hearts but it still the truth.

The Greek

pre 13 godina

LMAO with the Greek...
he is the most amusing poster .... by far!
(pyrros, 25 August 2010 11:31)

It is interesting to get compliments, by Albanians who live permanently in Greece (like Pyrros) and hide their true Albanian identity...

sj

pre 13 godina

beg you Mr. DODIK to declare RS an Independent State. The day that happens your beloved Banja Luka will be leveled to such an extent that you wont know what hit you. You and your RS so called police force are minnows compared to your neighbours who have a professional NATO backed army / airforce. Serbia proper would not come to your aid just as they couldn't be bothered with Martic's Krajina. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'.
(HB, 25 August 2010 11:50)

Who has a professional army? Croatia has 600 professional soldiers and Albanian; well there must be hundreds of professional goats. It people like you that are so deluded that think that Croatia or Albania will start a war and NATO will come to the rescue.

Read my lips carefully, NATO will NEVER allow; let me repeat that for you in case you have a problem with hearing; NATO will NEVER allow third class so called armies to start a bar room brawl let alone a war.

“. Please take note Mr. DODIK you have been 'WARNED'. I love theses statements! I’m sure that Dodik is shivering in his boots at this very moment.

Two things you have to get used to; first, this is not the 1990s and secondly Serbs have not finished with Croatia yet. In fact the EU is doing our job for us right now and here is the big secret. Croatia either repair Serbs houses and pay compensation for any use of their lands (this is not a joke or made up either) or if Serbs are afraid to return they must be payed out in full with interest starting from the early 1990s by the Croatian government.

Here is the real clincher – if they cannot do this and it is common knowledge that Croatia is BROKE then they will have to trade land to Serbia so that these people can be resettled on new serb territory. You guys should listen to your Ustashi radio programs – they reveal much more than the Croatian government.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

about my ethnicity, i am born greek, but later developed pro-slav feelings, as far as albanian-ism is concerned, i never had any affiliation with this "sport".