Amazing. No matter how many times you are told that Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia you keep repeating the same old rubbish.
(Peggy, 25 August 2010 01:00)
"I'm sorry to dissapoint some Serbian bloggers here that your churches are in great hands. KP is garding them and nobody cares to damage or destroy them. War is over. "
=======================
War was well and truly over in 2004 but that's when the greatest destruction happened.
Care to explain?
" The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 12:55) "
=======================
Amazing. No matter how many times you are told that Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia you keep repeating the same old rubbish.
I have a "private security firm" to guard the monasteries. The company is called MUP, Inc.
(JohnBoy, 24 August 2010 17:46)
I'm convinced by your statement. They sure do act like a private security firm. Remember all the massacres they did in 1998 and 1999 in Kosovo and dumped the bodies in Batajnica. But I will give you some news: They are banned from Kosovo.
"To comment on the "lowe's" post, Union of Serbia and Montenegro formed on 2003 not 1999.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 16:42) "
You are so wrong again! 1999 Yugoslavia was RENAMED Serbia & Montenegro in 2003. ie. Both Serbia and Montenegro were already together as one country in 1999. They changed the country's name in 2003 under EU's brokerage from Yugoslavia to Serbia & Montenegro, that's all!
For Westerners, a Kosovo, that is not part of Serbia, is a Third World country
(I know this sounds arrogant, but it´s the truth).
Kosovo Albanians, you have no future, if you do not find a compromise with Serbia !
(I know that you will never expressly admit this fact. But you know it.)
(dht, 24 August 2010 15:08)
And by rejoining Serbia the people of Kosovo could be oppressed 2nd class citizens of a 2nd world country, I guess that should cause them to come running back, right?
But as far as Kosovo joining the EU, it will in some fashion and there is zero chance Serbia will join and Kosovo left outside.
You know the only ones advocating sending in Serbian police are the nationalists posting here. Notice you have not heard Tadic or Jeremic utter anything of the kind.
While we don't know the exact composition of the KPS contingent guarding Gracanica (if Gracanica needs guarding in the center of the largest Serb enclave south of the Ibar), I think we can surmise the bulk of the unit will be local Serbs. If there is one or two token Albanians for the sake of multiethnic show, I daresay they're going to do anything stupid in a community of 10,000 Serbs.
To all of you that responded on my post, I would like to point out that those members of Kosovo Police that are responsible for the security of these sites are mostly of Serbian nationality. Another thing to point out is that KP's are not actually staying on site, but they are patroling just like any other part of the city. Another thing I would like to suggest to the churches: If you don't feel safe enough, you are more than welcome to hire private security firms to guard the sites. To comment on the "lowe's" post, Union of Serbia and Montenegro formed on 2003 not 1999.
Under the UN SC Resolution 1244 such agreement (about the number of Serbian personnel maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites) shall be made between Serbia and KFOR.
However, in my opinion, the Kosovo Albanians could become party of such agreement, too, and the presence mentioned in the Resolution could be a joint one.
In general, in this conflict, the Kosovo Albanians are the party with the greatest interest in finding a solution by negotiation and agreement with Serbia.
I know that you, the Kosovo Albanians, believe you could one day join the European Union and that this would solve your grave social problems.
I am living in an EU member state and I´ve discussed the issue of "Kosova" joining the EU with many other citizens here (including those who still believe in KLA´s lie that Serbs commited ethnic cleansing and genocide against Kosovo Albanians):
Every citizen says "No" to the question, whether "Kosova"
could join the EU (and these "no´s" are "don´t even think about it!"-no´s).
You shouldn´t mix up support of Albanians by NATO/KFOR with the opportunity to join EU.
For Westerners, a Kosovo, that is not part of Serbia, is a Third World country
(I know this sounds arrogant, but it´s the truth).
Kosovo Albanians, you have no future, if you do not find a compromise with Serbia !
(I know that you will never expressly admit this fact. But you know it.)
Strange as you really are with your psychotherapy and your one side suitable conclusions. Are you trying to persuade the Serbs or it’s your own Complex Of Inferiority ? Would you like your mosques to be guarded by the Israelites ? Then why do you think your police is something different for the Serbs ? Or do you believe they are so short of memory that they have already forgot what you have done to the monasteries and the churches you are going to guard ? Maximum one can talk about is joint guarding when Albanian police will guard the monasteries from their wild compatriots and the Serbs will guard the monasteries from the Albanian police.
" The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 12:55) "
You are so wrong. 1999 Yugoslavia then was Serbia and Montenegro. When Montenegro became independent in 2006, Serbia became the sole successor to Yugoslavia. That's why Serbia inherited the 2006 UN seat while Montenegro had to reapply as a new member.
"The decision, however, does not apply to the Patriarchate of Peć and the monasteries of Visoki Dečani and St. Archangels, which will remain under KFOR's protection."
Does this indicate strongly KFOR's lack of trust in the KPS? I think so.
"6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel
will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international
security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings."
See:
[link]
(page 6 of the pdf-file)
(dht, 24 August 2010 10:15)
I'm sorry to dissapoint some Serbian bloggers here that your churches are in great hands. KP is garding them and nobody cares to damage or destroy them. War is over. There is no need to send the Serbian soldiers here and there is no agreement to send them over. The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
There is NOTHING in Resolution 1244 which states that KP can guard Serbian churches and monasteries.
Actually the resolution mentions that Serbian security will be guarding them.
Violation of UN resolution again and they think they will get away with it.
This is a clear provocation designed to draw Serbia into some sort of a conflict thus enabling NATO to strike again.
Problem is that NATO will not strike again no matter how much Albanians provoke the Serbs.
Tadic must insist on Resolution 1244 being adhered to or they can all leave.
"6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel
will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international
security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings."
"6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel
will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international
security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings."
There is NOTHING in Resolution 1244 which states that KP can guard Serbian churches and monasteries.
Actually the resolution mentions that Serbian security will be guarding them.
Violation of UN resolution again and they think they will get away with it.
This is a clear provocation designed to draw Serbia into some sort of a conflict thus enabling NATO to strike again.
Problem is that NATO will not strike again no matter how much Albanians provoke the Serbs.
Tadic must insist on Resolution 1244 being adhered to or they can all leave.
I'm sorry to dissapoint some Serbian bloggers here that your churches are in great hands. KP is garding them and nobody cares to damage or destroy them. War is over. There is no need to send the Serbian soldiers here and there is no agreement to send them over. The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
"The decision, however, does not apply to the Patriarchate of Peć and the monasteries of Visoki Dečani and St. Archangels, which will remain under KFOR's protection."
Does this indicate strongly KFOR's lack of trust in the KPS? I think so.
" The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 12:55) "
You are so wrong. 1999 Yugoslavia then was Serbia and Montenegro. When Montenegro became independent in 2006, Serbia became the sole successor to Yugoslavia. That's why Serbia inherited the 2006 UN seat while Montenegro had to reapply as a new member.
Strange as you really are with your psychotherapy and your one side suitable conclusions. Are you trying to persuade the Serbs or it’s your own Complex Of Inferiority ? Would you like your mosques to be guarded by the Israelites ? Then why do you think your police is something different for the Serbs ? Or do you believe they are so short of memory that they have already forgot what you have done to the monasteries and the churches you are going to guard ? Maximum one can talk about is joint guarding when Albanian police will guard the monasteries from their wild compatriots and the Serbs will guard the monasteries from the Albanian police.
While we don't know the exact composition of the KPS contingent guarding Gracanica (if Gracanica needs guarding in the center of the largest Serb enclave south of the Ibar), I think we can surmise the bulk of the unit will be local Serbs. If there is one or two token Albanians for the sake of multiethnic show, I daresay they're going to do anything stupid in a community of 10,000 Serbs.
"6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel
will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international
security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings."
See:
[link]
(page 6 of the pdf-file)
(dht, 24 August 2010 10:15)
Under the UN SC Resolution 1244 such agreement (about the number of Serbian personnel maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites) shall be made between Serbia and KFOR.
However, in my opinion, the Kosovo Albanians could become party of such agreement, too, and the presence mentioned in the Resolution could be a joint one.
In general, in this conflict, the Kosovo Albanians are the party with the greatest interest in finding a solution by negotiation and agreement with Serbia.
I know that you, the Kosovo Albanians, believe you could one day join the European Union and that this would solve your grave social problems.
I am living in an EU member state and I´ve discussed the issue of "Kosova" joining the EU with many other citizens here (including those who still believe in KLA´s lie that Serbs commited ethnic cleansing and genocide against Kosovo Albanians):
Every citizen says "No" to the question, whether "Kosova"
could join the EU (and these "no´s" are "don´t even think about it!"-no´s).
You shouldn´t mix up support of Albanians by NATO/KFOR with the opportunity to join EU.
For Westerners, a Kosovo, that is not part of Serbia, is a Third World country
(I know this sounds arrogant, but it´s the truth).
Kosovo Albanians, you have no future, if you do not find a compromise with Serbia !
(I know that you will never expressly admit this fact. But you know it.)
To all of you that responded on my post, I would like to point out that those members of Kosovo Police that are responsible for the security of these sites are mostly of Serbian nationality. Another thing to point out is that KP's are not actually staying on site, but they are patroling just like any other part of the city. Another thing I would like to suggest to the churches: If you don't feel safe enough, you are more than welcome to hire private security firms to guard the sites. To comment on the "lowe's" post, Union of Serbia and Montenegro formed on 2003 not 1999.
"To comment on the "lowe's" post, Union of Serbia and Montenegro formed on 2003 not 1999.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 16:42) "
You are so wrong again! 1999 Yugoslavia was RENAMED Serbia & Montenegro in 2003. ie. Both Serbia and Montenegro were already together as one country in 1999. They changed the country's name in 2003 under EU's brokerage from Yugoslavia to Serbia & Montenegro, that's all!
" The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 12:55) "
=======================
Amazing. No matter how many times you are told that Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia you keep repeating the same old rubbish.
"I'm sorry to dissapoint some Serbian bloggers here that your churches are in great hands. KP is garding them and nobody cares to damage or destroy them. War is over. "
=======================
War was well and truly over in 2004 but that's when the greatest destruction happened.
Care to explain?
You know the only ones advocating sending in Serbian police are the nationalists posting here. Notice you have not heard Tadic or Jeremic utter anything of the kind.
For Westerners, a Kosovo, that is not part of Serbia, is a Third World country
(I know this sounds arrogant, but it´s the truth).
Kosovo Albanians, you have no future, if you do not find a compromise with Serbia !
(I know that you will never expressly admit this fact. But you know it.)
(dht, 24 August 2010 15:08)
And by rejoining Serbia the people of Kosovo could be oppressed 2nd class citizens of a 2nd world country, I guess that should cause them to come running back, right?
But as far as Kosovo joining the EU, it will in some fashion and there is zero chance Serbia will join and Kosovo left outside.
I have a "private security firm" to guard the monasteries. The company is called MUP, Inc.
(JohnBoy, 24 August 2010 17:46)
I'm convinced by your statement. They sure do act like a private security firm. Remember all the massacres they did in 1998 and 1999 in Kosovo and dumped the bodies in Batajnica. But I will give you some news: They are banned from Kosovo.
Amazing. No matter how many times you are told that Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia you keep repeating the same old rubbish.
(Peggy, 25 August 2010 01:00)
I'm sorry to dissapoint some Serbian bloggers here that your churches are in great hands. KP is garding them and nobody cares to damage or destroy them. War is over. There is no need to send the Serbian soldiers here and there is no agreement to send them over. The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
There is NOTHING in Resolution 1244 which states that KP can guard Serbian churches and monasteries.
Actually the resolution mentions that Serbian security will be guarding them.
Violation of UN resolution again and they think they will get away with it.
This is a clear provocation designed to draw Serbia into some sort of a conflict thus enabling NATO to strike again.
Problem is that NATO will not strike again no matter how much Albanians provoke the Serbs.
Tadic must insist on Resolution 1244 being adhered to or they can all leave.
"6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel
will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international
security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings."
"6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel
will be permitted to return to perform the following functions:
- Liaison with the international civil mission and the international
security presence;
- Marking/clearing minefields;
- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites;
- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings."
See:
[link]
(page 6 of the pdf-file)
(dht, 24 August 2010 10:15)
"The decision, however, does not apply to the Patriarchate of Peć and the monasteries of Visoki Dečani and St. Archangels, which will remain under KFOR's protection."
Does this indicate strongly KFOR's lack of trust in the KPS? I think so.
You know the only ones advocating sending in Serbian police are the nationalists posting here. Notice you have not heard Tadic or Jeremic utter anything of the kind.
I have a "private security firm" to guard the monasteries. The company is called MUP, Inc.
(JohnBoy, 24 August 2010 17:46)
I'm convinced by your statement. They sure do act like a private security firm. Remember all the massacres they did in 1998 and 1999 in Kosovo and dumped the bodies in Batajnica. But I will give you some news: They are banned from Kosovo.
To all of you that responded on my post, I would like to point out that those members of Kosovo Police that are responsible for the security of these sites are mostly of Serbian nationality. Another thing to point out is that KP's are not actually staying on site, but they are patroling just like any other part of the city. Another thing I would like to suggest to the churches: If you don't feel safe enough, you are more than welcome to hire private security firms to guard the sites. To comment on the "lowe's" post, Union of Serbia and Montenegro formed on 2003 not 1999.
For Westerners, a Kosovo, that is not part of Serbia, is a Third World country
(I know this sounds arrogant, but it´s the truth).
Kosovo Albanians, you have no future, if you do not find a compromise with Serbia !
(I know that you will never expressly admit this fact. But you know it.)
(dht, 24 August 2010 15:08)
And by rejoining Serbia the people of Kosovo could be oppressed 2nd class citizens of a 2nd world country, I guess that should cause them to come running back, right?
But as far as Kosovo joining the EU, it will in some fashion and there is zero chance Serbia will join and Kosovo left outside.
" The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 12:55) "
You are so wrong. 1999 Yugoslavia then was Serbia and Montenegro. When Montenegro became independent in 2006, Serbia became the sole successor to Yugoslavia. That's why Serbia inherited the 2006 UN seat while Montenegro had to reapply as a new member.
Strange as you really are with your psychotherapy and your one side suitable conclusions. Are you trying to persuade the Serbs or it’s your own Complex Of Inferiority ? Would you like your mosques to be guarded by the Israelites ? Then why do you think your police is something different for the Serbs ? Or do you believe they are so short of memory that they have already forgot what you have done to the monasteries and the churches you are going to guard ? Maximum one can talk about is joint guarding when Albanian police will guard the monasteries from their wild compatriots and the Serbs will guard the monasteries from the Albanian police.
Under the UN SC Resolution 1244 such agreement (about the number of Serbian personnel maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites) shall be made between Serbia and KFOR.
However, in my opinion, the Kosovo Albanians could become party of such agreement, too, and the presence mentioned in the Resolution could be a joint one.
In general, in this conflict, the Kosovo Albanians are the party with the greatest interest in finding a solution by negotiation and agreement with Serbia.
I know that you, the Kosovo Albanians, believe you could one day join the European Union and that this would solve your grave social problems.
I am living in an EU member state and I´ve discussed the issue of "Kosova" joining the EU with many other citizens here (including those who still believe in KLA´s lie that Serbs commited ethnic cleansing and genocide against Kosovo Albanians):
Every citizen says "No" to the question, whether "Kosova"
could join the EU (and these "no´s" are "don´t even think about it!"-no´s).
You shouldn´t mix up support of Albanians by NATO/KFOR with the opportunity to join EU.
For Westerners, a Kosovo, that is not part of Serbia, is a Third World country
(I know this sounds arrogant, but it´s the truth).
Kosovo Albanians, you have no future, if you do not find a compromise with Serbia !
(I know that you will never expressly admit this fact. But you know it.)
While we don't know the exact composition of the KPS contingent guarding Gracanica (if Gracanica needs guarding in the center of the largest Serb enclave south of the Ibar), I think we can surmise the bulk of the unit will be local Serbs. If there is one or two token Albanians for the sake of multiethnic show, I daresay they're going to do anything stupid in a community of 10,000 Serbs.
" The agreement took place between Yugoslavia and Nato, however Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, so the agreement is void by default.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 12:55) "
=======================
Amazing. No matter how many times you are told that Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia you keep repeating the same old rubbish.
"I'm sorry to dissapoint some Serbian bloggers here that your churches are in great hands. KP is garding them and nobody cares to damage or destroy them. War is over. "
=======================
War was well and truly over in 2004 but that's when the greatest destruction happened.
Care to explain?
"To comment on the "lowe's" post, Union of Serbia and Montenegro formed on 2003 not 1999.
(kosovaman, 24 August 2010 16:42) "
You are so wrong again! 1999 Yugoslavia was RENAMED Serbia & Montenegro in 2003. ie. Both Serbia and Montenegro were already together as one country in 1999. They changed the country's name in 2003 under EU's brokerage from Yugoslavia to Serbia & Montenegro, that's all!
Amazing. No matter how many times you are told that Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia you keep repeating the same old rubbish.
(Peggy, 25 August 2010 01:00)
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