Serbia looks to freeze recognitions

Did Tadic or the rest of his cabinet hear the word "summer pause"? Ok, Tadice, enjoy your recognition-less summer. However, September and the UN GA are coming soon.

Romanian will not change its already well known stand after the opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), Baconschi said.
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Thank you Romania. This is a nice holiday destination. I am particularly impressed with the Black Sea resort. The water is surprisingly warm and the fascilities are great. Why travel to Croatia when Romania has so much more to offer at much cheaper prices?

I don't understand serbs.I think they are still living in 1989.They still are talking as albanians don't exist in Kosova.
They want to ofer albanians authonomy???Did albanians have the authonomy at 1989 and was striped in 5 sec by Milosevic and his bodies?Does the authonomy means that albanians will be represented by Jeremic in UN?Does the authonomy means that Serbia can allow Russia to build military bases in Kosovo,since albanians don't have defence minister?
Does the authonomy means that 70 countries that alreay have recognised Kosova including USA and all western democracies,to retreat the recognition?Does the authomomy means that 15 thousand albanians why were killed in 1999 are forgotten?Does the authonomy means that 1999 war was for nothing?Does the authonomy offer means that serbs think that albanians are fool,since they are offering something that they can strip tomorrow?Do you really think that albanians are so fool and stupid to accept authonomy after what have been through?
Do you really believe that albanians will be under your boot again?
Wake up serbian people we are living in 2010 not in 1989.Albanians are there in Kosova and they are smart not fools.Sonner you accept this new reality the better is for Serbia and region.
Btw,I am orthodox albanian and I support my albanian brothers in Kosova.

"The ICJ did not rule on the right to secession and self-determination."

Since you didn't ask that question.

However, as the chief of your legal team said: do not be naive: any other question would have had same answer.

For more details of what answer would get the question "The ICJ did not rule on the right to secession and self-determination": see the report of the BRAZILIAN judge.

You will block only those recognitions that have some dirty clothes in their wardrobe.

Who is clean has already recognized Kosova or will recognize it very soon.

Serbia; have a nice time with crooks and dictators where you are in good company.

The free world has spoken: Kosova is independent- as it is her moral, divine and since 3 weeks also the international legal right to be independent.

"You will block only those recognitions that have some dirty clothes in their wardrobe.
Who is clean has already recognized Kosova or will recognize it very soon."

So, Ben, you are already dividing countries and peoples by the "clean" and "dirty", based on their approach on Kosovo UDI...

Well, you really give substance to that famous saying, "those you help in saving them, will come back later to spit you in the face".

Thank you for your enlightning post.

Belgrade daily Večernje Novosti writes today that this "diplomatic campaign" is already bearing fruit.


I wonder who will have the last laugh???

As a matter of fact you already have my “poor comment” as well as all Albanians will pay me with the same coin. Yet I have to agree with your “Wake up Serbian people we are living in 2010 not in 1989 ” call. Unfortunately my brothers keep on making strategic mistakes. They strive to enter the same waters twice and lean on their overseas defeaters. They are always late with good ideas and they choose the wrong guys. Besides if someone asks them if they want to live with the Albanians in one state they will definitely say “No” cause it will be a real nightmare for the both sides.

But the disgusting and coward way you’ve stolen their lands and gained your de facto independence from Serbia justifies their radicalism. I don’t know if US protectorate is something better than Serbian autonomy but you and your children should be ready for a long run. And the more other people will learn you the worse for you. The weaker is the US influence in the world the worse for you. So your critics of the Serbs is correct only in a small part while you too need a good glance in the mirror if only you have one.

"I wonder who will have the last laugh???" (Kosova-USA)

-- No one because Kosovo looks increasingly likely to be a frozen conflict. Belgrade's got its gang. Pristina's got theirs. Neither gang can uproot the other, and neither gang is interested in doing such. Kosovo has become a barganing chip for greater powers.

"why is this big effort to prevent further recognitions when according to Serbs it does not matter how many countries recognize Kosovo as long as one country, Russia is holding out? I find it pretty contradictory." (Joe)

-- Because it was never just about Russia. Russia can only block Kosovo in the UN. It can't do a damn thing about the EU or NATO. Moreover, Belgrade needs to show it's got more support than just Moscow, which ultimately is looking out for itself instead of Belgrade. By showing they have the support of the insurgent economic powers (BRIC), the NAM, and enough doubt in the EU, Belgrade can force the issue to the negotiating table and extract enough concessions even if status is ultimately no longer an issue.

Zoran

every time a country says it will not support Kosovos UDI you say that you will be going on holiday in that country, like there lives depend on your visits,

wait and see till the holidays are over and then we can talk.

regards

First of all, if the US is still wasting time, effort, and money pressuring countries that have repeatedly said they will *not* recognize Kosovo, I'm not that worried about Washington's initiative since it seems to be either repetitive and worn out, or just half-hearted for the sake of making the news.

Secondly, and more importantly, I wonder what Pristina's Baghdad Bob is doing other than giving vague references to "promises" he received (probably by way of Washington). If Tadic is sending out representatives on a diplomatic blitz, the smartest thing for Pristina to do would be to shadow these guys: either get to their counterparts before or after the Serb officials do.

Third, we'll only know afterwards if this was a successful gambit by Belgrade. If they're able to muster support, we can praise them for their diplomatic and strategic accumen. If they fail, well I guess we can laugh at was ended up being a futile attempt.

"You will block only those recognitions that have some dirty clothes in their wardrobe.
Who is clean has already recognized Kosova or will recognize it very soon." (ben)

-- Which makes one wonder at the motives behind Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia.

"Third, we'll only know afterwards if this was a successful gambit by Belgrade. If they're able to muster support, we can praise them for their diplomatic and strategic accumen. If they fail, well I guess we can laugh at was ended up being a futile attempt.
Mike

I agree. And just to add a question: why is this big effort to prevent further recognitions when according to Serbs it does not matter how many countries recognize Kosovo as long as one country, Russia is holding out? I find it pretty contradictory.

"What the newspaper refers to as the "shuttle diplomacy" is directed as those countries that are under great pressure to recognize Kosovo, while Tadić's letter explains Belgrade's position after the ICJ advisory opinion and calls on these states not to change their stance on Kosovo."

Great pressure? Maybe some banana republics can be "pressured", all serious countries have their own stand and reasons to recognize Kosovo or not. The 5 EU members clearly stated that they won't recognize Kosovo.

The ICJ ruling which only said that the UDI was legal has no influence on it, as everyone can see by the fact that there have been no new recognitions since then.

"as the chief of your legal team said: do not be naive: any other question would have had same answer."

Yes, he did say that. Pity it doesn't support your argument one bit - as you would have known if you had bothered to listen to the TV interviews he gave, he was insinuating that judges from recogniser countries voted on those lines in the ICJ judgment, and that they outnumbered judges from non-recognisers.

There seems to be more Albanainas participating on B-92 chats than actually live in Kosovo. I guess Albanians cant live without Serbs afterall! Kosovo will never be an independent state simply because the UN security council will never recognize them-and still today the majority of the worlds nations have not recognized them. But dont worry my Albanian friends, youll always have independent B-92 to spout your vitriolic anti serbian propoganda.

The Kosovo status issue is not about laughs, Kosova. The people in KiM need peace and a promising future. For armchair warriors like you, KiM may be the equivilent of a video game, but it's not. Real lives are at stake. BTW, why don't you turn your efforts to improving the USA, where you live, the people of KiM will do a lot better without childish remarks like yours.

Well. If you give the "vlahs" in Timoc Valley the right to have schools in "vlah" and if you allow them to be part of which church they choose, we will not recognize Kosovo.
If not..Try it out.

"And the motives of Slovakia with 550,000 Hungarians to not recognize it?" (Joe)

-- Understandable.

(Joe, 13 August 2010 17:53)

well done Joe.

You just highlighted one of many hypocrisies of Serbia towards Kosova.

Fighting for year infront of UN GA to secure the majority for to go to ICJ.

Then fighting for 2 years for wining in ICJ.

And in the end say well it wasn't importnat at all, let's prettend that nothing happened. ICJ didn't answer the question that wasn't asked. And all this is normal for them.

But the greatest hypocrisy is that they pretend that it is in their right to have Kosova beside the fact that over 90% of the people of Kosova are going mad on the sole idea let alone to make them really live under Serbia.

And they just don't care: they still speak about moral and democracy.

Unbelievable but true; this is the people with who we are dealing.


3.5 Million Albania has sent 2 million of his people to colonise the "heart" of a 12 million Serbian nation all this during the time when Serbia had the full solidarity and effective control of 25 million Yugoslavia. And this is taken as absolutely normal factual evidence in Serbia. This logic would not be bought even from an 11 year old kid but in Serbia this is known as historical fact. Unbelievable but unfortunately true.

P.S. regarding the division of contries... they divide themselves.

Canada is a mature democracy and althugh there are tensions in Quebec they have not a single problem in recognising Kosova.

Spain is immature democracy and for her internal fears refuses to recognise Kosova beside the fact that Kosova's UDI was judged by the ICJ beaing in line with the international law.

Slovakia, Romania- need to talk...???

This whole political war reminds me of the '90s when Croatia declared its independence.

At first Vuk said 40 countries are going to recognize, PM Thaci & FM Hyseni are promising recognitions, now Tadic is urgently sending aides to 55 countries (40 --> 55). Clearly, there seems to be a major flow of recognitions about to come soon.

Now from what I'm reading, QUINT is threatening Belgrade to overthrow the government if they don't start behaving. The more Vuk runs his mouth, the more unified EU stance you'll have in regards to Kosovo.

The Albanian Foreign Minister was reported yesterday (Express) as having said during a press conference after his return from Cyprus (among other places) that Cyprus now agrees that Kosovo's case is unique, with no implications for any other attempted secession.

Then we read here that "President Boris Tadić has sent 55 of his personal emissaries to as many countries, pleading that they do not recognize Kosovo."

It sounds like some countries may have come around to recognizing Kosovo (if Cyprus goes, can Greece be far behind?), but have taken pity on Jeremic and have agreed to give him a chance to present his case before the GA before finally calling an end to it all.

This may lead to the clearest outcome - the longer Serbia persists, the less likely they are going to get any goodies in the form of a "South Tyrol" solution. Giving Serbia even indirect control over part of Kosovo will lead to nothing but on-going problems, for the inhabitants, for the two states themselves, and for the international community.

"-- Which makes one wonder at the motives behind Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia.
Mike

And the motives of Slovakia with 550,000 Hungarians to not recognize it?

Serbia looks to freeze recognitions

Serbia can look all it wants but cannot freeze anything. The majority of the countries that haven't recognized Kosovo have done so because they are indiferent towards Kosovo and Serbia. The more Serbia makes noise about it and annoys the US and EU the more the countries that haven't recognized will be pressured into recognizing. But Kosovo recognition shuldn't be a problem of concern for the Serbian diplomacy since Serbs claim that Russia will veto a Kosovo UN membership anytime.

The new powers, China, Brazil, India and Russia are refusing to recognize Kosovo:
How long will it take for the US to become bankrupt? Well here is some more information that is now official and in the press - memo from the IMF to the World Bank:
“The US fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates. Closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14% of US GDP”.
The IMF is saying that the US needs to run surplus budgets for the next two decades just to bring the debt under control and not to pay it off. In fact the Congressional Budget Office released its report in June 2010 stating that the problem is even worse than realised by the IMF or World Bank. When taking into account projected US debt for Medicare and Social Security (pensions) and current debt it totals $202 TRILLION. This is 15 times than the current debt.
In July 2010, the IMF has technically pronounced the US as BANKRUPT – not my words but straight from that much loved western institution called the IMF. The US defence budget alone has to be reduced by 40% by 2012 to fend off total financial collapse – yes that’s true and not a mistake. What it means is that there will be hundreds of military bases closed. Ever wonder why there is a huge rush to implement the “surge” in Afghanistan. It’s to give them an excuse to leave – the money is fast running out.
Considering that I have posted warnings that this was the case on this website since October 2009 and have been howled down by Croats and Albanians; well now it’s all available for all to read.
Back to the recognitions of Kosovo; the rest of the world can recognize Kosovo and all the goats in Albania plus give them not one seat but 71 seats in the UN and still the status quo will remain because Belgrade will not allow any changes and they are backed by Russia and China, ha, ha, ha. Get used to the words VETO, VETO, VETO and VETO in the UN.
What the Albos don’t realize is that the US/EU are playing them for fools and that all of this business of going to the ICJ and then UN is just going around and around in circles. When the UN business is finished there will be other action by Serbia and so it goes on and on. It’s a game that you stretch out.
Have you people ever asked yourself why the US is just talking and not using NATO to forces Serbia to recognize Kosovo? Answer; they can’t because apart from being broke, once NATO leaves Afghanistan it’s finished and will be reorganized with, wait for it, Russia having a very major say in the running of the new organization.
Now who is going keep paying for the upkeep of Kosovo? Not the EU.

yes,and Albania will unfreze them, that's really new trend nowadays.

Now from what I'm reading, QUINT is threatening Belgrade to overthrow the government if they don't start behaving. The more Vuk runs his mouth, the more unified EU stance you'll have in regards to Kosovo.
(RKS, 13 August 2010 23:53)
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Overthrowing a democratically elected governments is what the US does best.
How undemocratic for a "democratic" country like the US. We all know who's behind all the threats and killings.

Why spend so much money and effort, if Serbia believes that ; no matter how many countries recognize Kosova, still it will not be an Independent country???

Where is the logic here?

"The Albanian Foreign Minister was reported yesterday (Express) as having said during a press conference after his return from Cyprus (among other places) that Cyprus now agrees that Kosovo's case is unique, with no implications for any other attempted secession.

(Amer, 13 August 2010 20:07)"

Cyrpus only NOW agrees??? I thought this has been Cyprus' view all along. For example, see http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-07/23/c_13411281.htm

Anyway "Kosova" will remain in limbo as it is unable to convince Russia and China. And here there is nothing its Western masters can do to help.

Why spend so much money and effort, if Serbia believes that ; no matter how many countries recognize Kosova, still it will not be an Independent country???

Where is the logic here?
(Kosova-USA, 14 August 2010 18:35)

It’s an old Serbian saying – ZA INAT.

(sj, 14 August 2010 03:31) -

Thank you for your concern. Obviously we're going to have to raise taxes after those irresponsible cuts by Bush as well as reduce spending. Increasing the revenue side will make a big difference in those "projections."
(Amer, 14 August 2010 14:22)

It’s not that simple, it should be but it’s not. Here is the problem – the US is in a Depression and not a Recession. This is a fact not just my opinion with most financial institutions privately agreeing. The issue is how and when you can raise these taxes considering the delicate situation. If raised at the wrong time it could deepen the depression and cause deflation, which I have been told could already be on its way.
Your problem started with Ronald Regan, who wanted to deregulate everything in sight and continued with all your Presidents and George Bush finally put the US out of its misery by bringing it to its knees.
You might ask Secretary Geithner his involvement in the destruction of the US economy – it’s quite interesting.

I hope hope Kosovo becomes a conflict between US+EU vs. Russia (not sure china since they are not involved at all, india they said they are reviewing) but ok last time this happened we have the model East and west Germany and look who ended up poor and backwards.

I hope it freezes and we shall see, please please Serbia make a Russian Base like Ukraine and make it for for 50years.

(sj, 14 August 2010 03:31) -

Thank you for your concern. Obviously we're going to have to raise taxes after those irresponsible cuts by Bush as well as reduce spending. Increasing the revenue side will make a big difference in those "projections."

(sj, 14 August 2010 03:31)

Good analysis. This is why I persistantly advocate Serbia should stop putting all it's eggs in the Eu basket (which will for Serbia be a mostly import orientaded economy) and make a huge effort into relations and deep economic ties with BRIC and central Asia, that is the future. Serbia has an advantage in Indian relations being close non-aligned countries, it's economy is rising heavily and will rival China's GDP a huge export potential for Serbian commodoties.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/guild/india-is-booming

I hope the next ruling political party in Serbia comes with that outlook. China is already moving to create a replacement even for the IMF in the Asean region such is the strength of the Chinese economy. Australia outperformed all other developed economies during the GFC due to the positive surpluss trade with the Chinese, Serbia should take that road too.

http://www.financialsensearchive.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2009/0402.html

Soon it will be harder to borrow for the US as yeilds look to be close to 0% for it's bonds and should interest rates rise which they look innevitably to do soon that will be the squeeze that makes the US economy pop.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/barry-ferguson/why-us-treasuries-will-eventually-yield-nothing

In a recent G20 meeting all the Europeans wanted immediate budget targets and fiscal sustainability, Obama pushed that aside and wants that to be a medium term goal years down the track.
The US will not last too long which is why countries are no longer talking about replacing US dollars as standard in trading, but implementing alternative methods so they don't get burned ie Iran's 25% gold replacement for the petrodollar, China-Argentina currency swaps etc. They cannot fix it even with the drastic cuts the IMF prescibes, serious economies have lost confidence in the US, a difficulty factor to huge for the US to get over. The US dollar will get dumped hyperinflation will kick in and force interest up.

Thank you for your concern. Obviously we're going to have to raise taxes after those irresponsible cuts by Bush as well as reduce spending. Increasing the revenue side will make a big difference in those "projections."
(Amer, 14 August 2010 14:22)
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Better hope they don't reduce spending in the military for Bondsteel will be gone and your "Kosova" with it.

I hope it freezes and we shall see, please please Serbia make a Russian Base like Ukraine and make it for for 50years.
(Allez, 14 August 2010 09:25)
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A change of government will be needed for that to happen because Tadic has said that there will be no foreign bases on Serbian soil. Of course he forgot that Bondsteel is in Kosovo which made his announcement quite ridiculous.

"The ICJ did not rule on the right to secession and self-determination."

Since you didn't ask that question.

However, as the chief of your legal team said: do not be naive: any other question would have had same answer.

For more details of what answer would get the question "The ICJ did not rule on the right to secession and self-determination": see the report of the BRAZILIAN judge.

You will block only those recognitions that have some dirty clothes in their wardrobe.

Who is clean has already recognized Kosova or will recognize it very soon.

Serbia; have a nice time with crooks and dictators where you are in good company.

The free world has spoken: Kosova is independent- as it is her moral, divine and since 3 weeks also the international legal right to be independent.

Romanian will not change its already well known stand after the opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), Baconschi said.
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Thank you Romania. This is a nice holiday destination. I am particularly impressed with the Black Sea resort. The water is surprisingly warm and the fascilities are great. Why travel to Croatia when Romania has so much more to offer at much cheaper prices?

Did Tadic or the rest of his cabinet hear the word "summer pause"? Ok, Tadice, enjoy your recognition-less summer. However, September and the UN GA are coming soon.

"You will block only those recognitions that have some dirty clothes in their wardrobe.
Who is clean has already recognized Kosova or will recognize it very soon."

So, Ben, you are already dividing countries and peoples by the "clean" and "dirty", based on their approach on Kosovo UDI...

Well, you really give substance to that famous saying, "those you help in saving them, will come back later to spit you in the face".

Thank you for your enlightning post.

(Joe, 13 August 2010 17:53)

well done Joe.

You just highlighted one of many hypocrisies of Serbia towards Kosova.

Fighting for year infront of UN GA to secure the majority for to go to ICJ.

Then fighting for 2 years for wining in ICJ.

And in the end say well it wasn't importnat at all, let's prettend that nothing happened. ICJ didn't answer the question that wasn't asked. And all this is normal for them.

But the greatest hypocrisy is that they pretend that it is in their right to have Kosova beside the fact that over 90% of the people of Kosova are going mad on the sole idea let alone to make them really live under Serbia.

And they just don't care: they still speak about moral and democracy.

Unbelievable but true; this is the people with who we are dealing.


3.5 Million Albania has sent 2 million of his people to colonise the "heart" of a 12 million Serbian nation all this during the time when Serbia had the full solidarity and effective control of 25 million Yugoslavia. And this is taken as absolutely normal factual evidence in Serbia. This logic would not be bought even from an 11 year old kid but in Serbia this is known as historical fact. Unbelievable but unfortunately true.

P.S. regarding the division of contries... they divide themselves.

Canada is a mature democracy and althugh there are tensions in Quebec they have not a single problem in recognising Kosova.

Spain is immature democracy and for her internal fears refuses to recognise Kosova beside the fact that Kosova's UDI was judged by the ICJ beaing in line with the international law.

Slovakia, Romania- need to talk...???

I don't understand serbs.I think they are still living in 1989.They still are talking as albanians don't exist in Kosova.
They want to ofer albanians authonomy???Did albanians have the authonomy at 1989 and was striped in 5 sec by Milosevic and his bodies?Does the authonomy means that albanians will be represented by Jeremic in UN?Does the authonomy means that Serbia can allow Russia to build military bases in Kosovo,since albanians don't have defence minister?
Does the authonomy means that 70 countries that alreay have recognised Kosova including USA and all western democracies,to retreat the recognition?Does the authomomy means that 15 thousand albanians why were killed in 1999 are forgotten?Does the authonomy means that 1999 war was for nothing?Does the authonomy offer means that serbs think that albanians are fool,since they are offering something that they can strip tomorrow?Do you really think that albanians are so fool and stupid to accept authonomy after what have been through?
Do you really believe that albanians will be under your boot again?
Wake up serbian people we are living in 2010 not in 1989.Albanians are there in Kosova and they are smart not fools.Sonner you accept this new reality the better is for Serbia and region.
Btw,I am orthodox albanian and I support my albanian brothers in Kosova.

Zoran

every time a country says it will not support Kosovos UDI you say that you will be going on holiday in that country, like there lives depend on your visits,

wait and see till the holidays are over and then we can talk.

regards

Belgrade daily Večernje Novosti writes today that this "diplomatic campaign" is already bearing fruit.


I wonder who will have the last laugh???

The Albanian Foreign Minister was reported yesterday (Express) as having said during a press conference after his return from Cyprus (among other places) that Cyprus now agrees that Kosovo's case is unique, with no implications for any other attempted secession.

Then we read here that "President Boris Tadić has sent 55 of his personal emissaries to as many countries, pleading that they do not recognize Kosovo."

It sounds like some countries may have come around to recognizing Kosovo (if Cyprus goes, can Greece be far behind?), but have taken pity on Jeremic and have agreed to give him a chance to present his case before the GA before finally calling an end to it all.

This may lead to the clearest outcome - the longer Serbia persists, the less likely they are going to get any goodies in the form of a "South Tyrol" solution. Giving Serbia even indirect control over part of Kosovo will lead to nothing but on-going problems, for the inhabitants, for the two states themselves, and for the international community.

yes,and Albania will unfreze them, that's really new trend nowadays.

"You will block only those recognitions that have some dirty clothes in their wardrobe.
Who is clean has already recognized Kosova or will recognize it very soon." (ben)

-- Which makes one wonder at the motives behind Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia.

Serbia looks to freeze recognitions

Serbia can look all it wants but cannot freeze anything. The majority of the countries that haven't recognized Kosovo have done so because they are indiferent towards Kosovo and Serbia. The more Serbia makes noise about it and annoys the US and EU the more the countries that haven't recognized will be pressured into recognizing. But Kosovo recognition shuldn't be a problem of concern for the Serbian diplomacy since Serbs claim that Russia will veto a Kosovo UN membership anytime.

This whole political war reminds me of the '90s when Croatia declared its independence.

At first Vuk said 40 countries are going to recognize, PM Thaci & FM Hyseni are promising recognitions, now Tadic is urgently sending aides to 55 countries (40 --> 55). Clearly, there seems to be a major flow of recognitions about to come soon.

Now from what I'm reading, QUINT is threatening Belgrade to overthrow the government if they don't start behaving. The more Vuk runs his mouth, the more unified EU stance you'll have in regards to Kosovo.

"Third, we'll only know afterwards if this was a successful gambit by Belgrade. If they're able to muster support, we can praise them for their diplomatic and strategic accumen. If they fail, well I guess we can laugh at was ended up being a futile attempt.
Mike

I agree. And just to add a question: why is this big effort to prevent further recognitions when according to Serbs it does not matter how many countries recognize Kosovo as long as one country, Russia is holding out? I find it pretty contradictory.

There seems to be more Albanainas participating on B-92 chats than actually live in Kosovo. I guess Albanians cant live without Serbs afterall! Kosovo will never be an independent state simply because the UN security council will never recognize them-and still today the majority of the worlds nations have not recognized them. But dont worry my Albanian friends, youll always have independent B-92 to spout your vitriolic anti serbian propoganda.

"What the newspaper refers to as the "shuttle diplomacy" is directed as those countries that are under great pressure to recognize Kosovo, while Tadić's letter explains Belgrade's position after the ICJ advisory opinion and calls on these states not to change their stance on Kosovo."

Great pressure? Maybe some banana republics can be "pressured", all serious countries have their own stand and reasons to recognize Kosovo or not. The 5 EU members clearly stated that they won't recognize Kosovo.

The ICJ ruling which only said that the UDI was legal has no influence on it, as everyone can see by the fact that there have been no new recognitions since then.

First of all, if the US is still wasting time, effort, and money pressuring countries that have repeatedly said they will *not* recognize Kosovo, I'm not that worried about Washington's initiative since it seems to be either repetitive and worn out, or just half-hearted for the sake of making the news.

Secondly, and more importantly, I wonder what Pristina's Baghdad Bob is doing other than giving vague references to "promises" he received (probably by way of Washington). If Tadic is sending out representatives on a diplomatic blitz, the smartest thing for Pristina to do would be to shadow these guys: either get to their counterparts before or after the Serb officials do.

Third, we'll only know afterwards if this was a successful gambit by Belgrade. If they're able to muster support, we can praise them for their diplomatic and strategic accumen. If they fail, well I guess we can laugh at was ended up being a futile attempt.

"-- Which makes one wonder at the motives behind Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia.
Mike

And the motives of Slovakia with 550,000 Hungarians to not recognize it?

"as the chief of your legal team said: do not be naive: any other question would have had same answer."

Yes, he did say that. Pity it doesn't support your argument one bit - as you would have known if you had bothered to listen to the TV interviews he gave, he was insinuating that judges from recogniser countries voted on those lines in the ICJ judgment, and that they outnumbered judges from non-recognisers.

As a matter of fact you already have my “poor comment” as well as all Albanians will pay me with the same coin. Yet I have to agree with your “Wake up Serbian people we are living in 2010 not in 1989 ” call. Unfortunately my brothers keep on making strategic mistakes. They strive to enter the same waters twice and lean on their overseas defeaters. They are always late with good ideas and they choose the wrong guys. Besides if someone asks them if they want to live with the Albanians in one state they will definitely say “No” cause it will be a real nightmare for the both sides.

But the disgusting and coward way you’ve stolen their lands and gained your de facto independence from Serbia justifies their radicalism. I don’t know if US protectorate is something better than Serbian autonomy but you and your children should be ready for a long run. And the more other people will learn you the worse for you. The weaker is the US influence in the world the worse for you. So your critics of the Serbs is correct only in a small part while you too need a good glance in the mirror if only you have one.

Well. If you give the "vlahs" in Timoc Valley the right to have schools in "vlah" and if you allow them to be part of which church they choose, we will not recognize Kosovo.
If not..Try it out.

The Kosovo status issue is not about laughs, Kosova. The people in KiM need peace and a promising future. For armchair warriors like you, KiM may be the equivilent of a video game, but it's not. Real lives are at stake. BTW, why don't you turn your efforts to improving the USA, where you live, the people of KiM will do a lot better without childish remarks like yours.

"I wonder who will have the last laugh???" (Kosova-USA)

-- No one because Kosovo looks increasingly likely to be a frozen conflict. Belgrade's got its gang. Pristina's got theirs. Neither gang can uproot the other, and neither gang is interested in doing such. Kosovo has become a barganing chip for greater powers.

"why is this big effort to prevent further recognitions when according to Serbs it does not matter how many countries recognize Kosovo as long as one country, Russia is holding out? I find it pretty contradictory." (Joe)

-- Because it was never just about Russia. Russia can only block Kosovo in the UN. It can't do a damn thing about the EU or NATO. Moreover, Belgrade needs to show it's got more support than just Moscow, which ultimately is looking out for itself instead of Belgrade. By showing they have the support of the insurgent economic powers (BRIC), the NAM, and enough doubt in the EU, Belgrade can force the issue to the negotiating table and extract enough concessions even if status is ultimately no longer an issue.

"The Albanian Foreign Minister was reported yesterday (Express) as having said during a press conference after his return from Cyprus (among other places) that Cyprus now agrees that Kosovo's case is unique, with no implications for any other attempted secession.

(Amer, 13 August 2010 20:07)"

Cyrpus only NOW agrees??? I thought this has been Cyprus' view all along. For example, see http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-07/23/c_13411281.htm

Anyway "Kosova" will remain in limbo as it is unable to convince Russia and China. And here there is nothing its Western masters can do to help.

The new powers, China, Brazil, India and Russia are refusing to recognize Kosovo:
How long will it take for the US to become bankrupt? Well here is some more information that is now official and in the press - memo from the IMF to the World Bank:
“The US fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates. Closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14% of US GDP”.
The IMF is saying that the US needs to run surplus budgets for the next two decades just to bring the debt under control and not to pay it off. In fact the Congressional Budget Office released its report in June 2010 stating that the problem is even worse than realised by the IMF or World Bank. When taking into account projected US debt for Medicare and Social Security (pensions) and current debt it totals $202 TRILLION. This is 15 times than the current debt.
In July 2010, the IMF has technically pronounced the US as BANKRUPT – not my words but straight from that much loved western institution called the IMF. The US defence budget alone has to be reduced by 40% by 2012 to fend off total financial collapse – yes that’s true and not a mistake. What it means is that there will be hundreds of military bases closed. Ever wonder why there is a huge rush to implement the “surge” in Afghanistan. It’s to give them an excuse to leave – the money is fast running out.
Considering that I have posted warnings that this was the case on this website since October 2009 and have been howled down by Croats and Albanians; well now it’s all available for all to read.
Back to the recognitions of Kosovo; the rest of the world can recognize Kosovo and all the goats in Albania plus give them not one seat but 71 seats in the UN and still the status quo will remain because Belgrade will not allow any changes and they are backed by Russia and China, ha, ha, ha. Get used to the words VETO, VETO, VETO and VETO in the UN.
What the Albos don’t realize is that the US/EU are playing them for fools and that all of this business of going to the ICJ and then UN is just going around and around in circles. When the UN business is finished there will be other action by Serbia and so it goes on and on. It’s a game that you stretch out.
Have you people ever asked yourself why the US is just talking and not using NATO to forces Serbia to recognize Kosovo? Answer; they can’t because apart from being broke, once NATO leaves Afghanistan it’s finished and will be reorganized with, wait for it, Russia having a very major say in the running of the new organization.
Now who is going keep paying for the upkeep of Kosovo? Not the EU.

Now from what I'm reading, QUINT is threatening Belgrade to overthrow the government if they don't start behaving. The more Vuk runs his mouth, the more unified EU stance you'll have in regards to Kosovo.
(RKS, 13 August 2010 23:53)
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Overthrowing a democratically elected governments is what the US does best.
How undemocratic for a "democratic" country like the US. We all know who's behind all the threats and killings.

I hope hope Kosovo becomes a conflict between US+EU vs. Russia (not sure china since they are not involved at all, india they said they are reviewing) but ok last time this happened we have the model East and west Germany and look who ended up poor and backwards.

I hope it freezes and we shall see, please please Serbia make a Russian Base like Ukraine and make it for for 50years.

Why spend so much money and effort, if Serbia believes that ; no matter how many countries recognize Kosova, still it will not be an Independent country???

Where is the logic here?

"And the motives of Slovakia with 550,000 Hungarians to not recognize it?" (Joe)

-- Understandable.

(sj, 14 August 2010 03:31) -

Thank you for your concern. Obviously we're going to have to raise taxes after those irresponsible cuts by Bush as well as reduce spending. Increasing the revenue side will make a big difference in those "projections."

Why spend so much money and effort, if Serbia believes that ; no matter how many countries recognize Kosova, still it will not be an Independent country???

Where is the logic here?
(Kosova-USA, 14 August 2010 18:35)

It’s an old Serbian saying – ZA INAT.

(sj, 14 August 2010 03:31) -

Thank you for your concern. Obviously we're going to have to raise taxes after those irresponsible cuts by Bush as well as reduce spending. Increasing the revenue side will make a big difference in those "projections."
(Amer, 14 August 2010 14:22)

It’s not that simple, it should be but it’s not. Here is the problem – the US is in a Depression and not a Recession. This is a fact not just my opinion with most financial institutions privately agreeing. The issue is how and when you can raise these taxes considering the delicate situation. If raised at the wrong time it could deepen the depression and cause deflation, which I have been told could already be on its way.
Your problem started with Ronald Regan, who wanted to deregulate everything in sight and continued with all your Presidents and George Bush finally put the US out of its misery by bringing it to its knees.
You might ask Secretary Geithner his involvement in the destruction of the US economy – it’s quite interesting.

(sj, 14 August 2010 03:31)

Good analysis. This is why I persistantly advocate Serbia should stop putting all it's eggs in the Eu basket (which will for Serbia be a mostly import orientaded economy) and make a huge effort into relations and deep economic ties with BRIC and central Asia, that is the future. Serbia has an advantage in Indian relations being close non-aligned countries, it's economy is rising heavily and will rival China's GDP a huge export potential for Serbian commodoties.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/guild/india-is-booming

I hope the next ruling political party in Serbia comes with that outlook. China is already moving to create a replacement even for the IMF in the Asean region such is the strength of the Chinese economy. Australia outperformed all other developed economies during the GFC due to the positive surpluss trade with the Chinese, Serbia should take that road too.

http://www.financialsensearchive.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2009/0402.html

Soon it will be harder to borrow for the US as yeilds look to be close to 0% for it's bonds and should interest rates rise which they look innevitably to do soon that will be the squeeze that makes the US economy pop.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/barry-ferguson/why-us-treasuries-will-eventually-yield-nothing

In a recent G20 meeting all the Europeans wanted immediate budget targets and fiscal sustainability, Obama pushed that aside and wants that to be a medium term goal years down the track.
The US will not last too long which is why countries are no longer talking about replacing US dollars as standard in trading, but implementing alternative methods so they don't get burned ie Iran's 25% gold replacement for the petrodollar, China-Argentina currency swaps etc. They cannot fix it even with the drastic cuts the IMF prescibes, serious economies have lost confidence in the US, a difficulty factor to huge for the US to get over. The US dollar will get dumped hyperinflation will kick in and force interest up.

Thank you for your concern. Obviously we're going to have to raise taxes after those irresponsible cuts by Bush as well as reduce spending. Increasing the revenue side will make a big difference in those "projections."
(Amer, 14 August 2010 14:22)
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Better hope they don't reduce spending in the military for Bondsteel will be gone and your "Kosova" with it.

I hope it freezes and we shall see, please please Serbia make a Russian Base like Ukraine and make it for for 50years.
(Allez, 14 August 2010 09:25)
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A change of government will be needed for that to happen because Tadic has said that there will be no foreign bases on Serbian soil. Of course he forgot that Bondsteel is in Kosovo which made his announcement quite ridiculous.