India won’t recognize Kosovo

To all the Albanian 'experts' here who were saying that India would recognise your little parastate, well folks New Delhi has given its firm answer. A big fat NO.

Thank you India :)

Oh dear, oh dear.....looks like the flood of recognitions hasn't transpired :) I'm sure the albanian posters will no doubt say they don't care about India as it's a poor country. However, keep in mind that Britain has gone cap in hand to India to beg for business. Enjoy your "independence" while it lasts.

India will probably be the next permanent member of the UN Security Council... so, it will be very interesting to see half of the UN member not recognising the illegal republic of Kosovo. Kosovo will simply never be a proper country. Because the way it was "created" is a total shame for world politics and international legality. You cannot create a country by having others "steal" the land for you. Kosovo is part of Serbia and it will always be. As Northern Epirus is a part of Greece....

Time is Serbia’s side; Look at the future world powers that will not recognize Kosovo:
1. China
2. Russia
3. India
4. Brazil
The rest are of little to no consequence starting with the US of A. To the Albanian readers, if the US could use NATO at this very moment to force Serbia to recognize Kosovo it would not hesitate for a micro second, but like all spent powers it’s all talk and BS. The US did not tell its people the reasons why its navy did not hold exercises in the Yellow sea near North Korea – China told them to pack up and leave ha, ha,.
Like all good stews Kosovo is better left to bubble slowly over a low heat and watch the EU/US burn their little fingers over the Kosovo pot.
The more things change the more they stay the same.

USA with 69 recognitions against the rest of the world with 131.

Yes, clearly Kosovo is recognized as an independent state.

Thank you India. I'm glad Serbia has all of the emerging powers on our side. The West is just about to face its second economic shock during this collapse.

The manipulated ICJ decision has done nothing for "Kosova". That demonstrates greatly how weak this independence movement really is. I also demostrates how the West has lost much of its influence.

Greetings from Romania

They will recognise Kosovo and how.

Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. BTW they are not Serbia, as t hey have at least some dignity.

Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37)
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I am guessing little voices are telling you all this.
What violation of international law are you talking about? The fact that they won't recognise you is not a violation of international law and the ICJ only said that saying you are independent does not violate the law but didn't say anything about actual secession itself. They hand balled that one to the UN.

Good news! India is the second largest country in the world (population) and with China, that's a lot of people. At any rate, India and China are two up and coming super powers that I'm sure Kosovo would love to have back their UDI. Instead, they are both working together with Serbia and investing in Serbia's future. Forget the EU and stick with these countries. Yes, the EU will continue to be a nice place to vacation with its nice ski resorts and quaint villages, but the real money and power will be east. Kosovo, though, could get into these countries good graces if it's Albanian leadership would sit down at the negotiating table with Serbia and hammer out a solution that is acceptable to all sides. Then everyone in the Balkans would do well. What a wonderful world it would be. I guess I can dream.

"BTW they are not Serbia, as t hey have at least some dignity.

Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37) "


PRN! why this bitterness in your post...???

do you feel nervous? well, let´s say you have reason to be nervous, if you are one of these naive independence-supporters - but on the other side you have no reason to be nervous, since Serbia will prevail.

and, you know it´s like when Serbia returned to KiM after the Ottomans were forced to retreat: with the Serbs there came modern water supply and electricity...

the next time it will also be an improvement for you. you only cannot understand that yet.

last but not least, why are you mentioning dignity when you are not only whining in order to get others to fight for you ad anfterwards even are not ashamed of living of permanent foreign support?

so, talking about dignity in your case sounds pretty weird.

Country after country confirm
the kangaroo self-ordained ICG has neither advisory nor legal juristiction over the affairs of a sovereign nation.

It is just a political extension of Western clubs such as EU & Nato and its sole purpose is to legitimatise the illegal actions of those clubs.

Therefore,entrenched positions will remain in place for the forseeable future as well as their implications.

Hmmmm...so nice to see that the largest democracy in the world (population wise) is sticking to it's guns. My country cannot paint this picture as ex-communist versus democracies with India in the picture as it is nowadays. My country cannot afford to piss India off, after all that's where half of our jobs have been sent. Oh, how I yearn for the day when the American people get sick and tired of our wayward government. It's already starting to happen with the tea parties. Our founding fathers would never approve of the way my country has proceeded to stick it's nose everywhere in the world, they would be appalled at the belligerance my country has shown to those who don't "do as we say", like a small child lashing out when it doesn't get it's way. The media in my country never showed us the other side of the story, never told us the types we sided with (Nazi sympathizers) during those tumultuous times, never told us the whole truth behind what happened in the Balkans. Americans are shocked when I tell them the WHOLE story, not just the one-sided crapfest the western media spoonfed them. Eventually, all of this will come out, it always does, the truth cannot be contained, it always finds it's way into the light. Until then Serbia needs to buy time, continue to do as it is doing and wait for the ethnic Albanians to show their true colors. I just hope it doesn't cost more Serbs their lives when it happens.

Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. (...)
Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37)

Is this only pure wishfull thinking? Or does it involves too much beer? Or even some rakia? Hm, doesn't mather. It is always funny to find people who have no clue about your people& country (Romania) but they are very sure what your people&country will do regarding this or that...

From Northern Romania, close to the border with Moldavia Republic :)
Alexandru

All future powers are on our side.
Time is def on our side... we should just drag this a bit longer and wait till America collapses econmically.

Well I guess in the absence of any unified international forum and the ICJ ruling being "advisory" only, states are left to decide for themselves what to do. In the absence of negotiations and dialogue, this looks increasingly like a frozen conflict.

"Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. "
Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37)

Yes, wait and see. But maybe you should have noticed in the meanwhile that each and every of these 5 EU members already announced that their stance hasn't changed and they WON'T recognize Kosovo.

And no, after this ICJ ruling, the countries have all the choice - the UDI wasn't againt international law, and it was NOTHING said about the legality of a secession.

Now every non-recognition is celebrated, which is as stupid as to celebrate every new recognition.

For me it was clear that after a ICJ ruling like this, nothing will change. So: Where are the dozens of new recognition which some people predicted and announced to follow? There wasn't even one!

The only way BRIC will recognize Kosovo is, ahh, heck, never.

No wave of recognitions after ICJ decision???
I´m afraid the positions are fixed for both sides until there is a diplomatic solution.
That means until then there will be no real progress towards the future on balkan.

of course they don't recognize Kosovo because they have to deal with Kashmir

They will recognise Kosovo and how.

Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. BTW they are not Serbia, as t hey have at least some dignity.

Wait and see.

'The Albanians can wait this out without any hurry. Even when it takes years, decades, whatever,'

Actually John C this is a mistaken belief. Kosovo Albanian patience for improvment in living standards and the economy is not everlasting. Nor is the patience to be able to govern ones own affairs.

To be clear that if things continue at the current rate - ie progress is very limited to small urban areas, whilst things remain the same for all other citizens. And if there is seen to be a 'democratic deficit' ie that Kosovo Albanian media decide that the internationals are occupiers in the same way the Serbian government was, then civil unrest is a very real possilibity.

What the internationals need more than ever is some evidence of progress to both present to their leaders and to present to the Kosovo Albanian population.

Therefore your welcoming of the current situation is very foolhardy.

Sadly the ICJ decision has made no impact and things are just as bad as they were...

Not a single new recognition since the ICJ verdict for Kosovo. Albanians and their wish for 100 recognitions will reamain....a wish.
There is no exchange with Kosovo so there is no real reason to recognize. Albanians continue to live in the dark. No schengen, no jobs, nothing...

I hereby formally announce my petition. A petition to enable PRN to be Serbia's "national comedian". We can use his quotes on all media outlets. Hell, we could even get him a tv spot - the more tv slots the merrier. Fellow Serbs, never mind the dire state of the economy or the fight in the UN over Kosovo, but just remember to tune into the daily dose of "PRN Today" for an uplifting laugh and "alternative view" of international law and order and international politics.

And PRN, may I take this opportunity to express my desire to offer my services as your manager. I'm sure we could make you a global phenomenon and imagine all the money we could generate with pay per view on the internet and cable tv. You could actually earn a good living - honestly for a change. We could even donate some of the proceeds to a new charity - "Former UCK United"

Serbian supporters,

Serbia is brought in her knees but they need be completely destroyed in order for Balkans to get the final peace.

After all, we do not care whether India or Brazil or any non-Western country recognise Kosovo. We are free and liberated after more than 6 century of occupation and nobody cares why Serbia aimes at destroying itself for TOTALLY NONSENSE claim about Kosovo.

This is the same as Albanians saying part of Scandinavia is Albanian. No-one will heed us on that and no-one is heeding serbia anynmore on Kosovo.

For me it was clear that after a ICJ ruling like this, nothing will change. So: Where are the dozens of new recognition which some people predicted and announced to follow? There wasn't even one!
(Top, 10 August 2010 13:43)

And where are the 10-15 countries recinding recognition? Didnt Team Serbia constantly "assure" that Serbia is going to win the ICJ case? Now you celebrate that (so far) no further country didnt recognize, completely blanking out what have been said before the 22th July. And we even didn`t have the UN GA yet.

The Albanians can wait this out without any hurry. Even when it takes years, decades, whatever, and for sure, the first new recognitions will come soon. 100%

"And where are the 10-15 countries recinding recognition? Didnt Team Serbia constantly "assure" that Serbia is going to win the ICJ case? Now you celebrate that (so far) no further country didnt recognize, completely blanking out what have been said before the 22th July. And we even didn`t have the UN GA yet. "
(JohnC., 10 August 2010 15:10)

For me, after I read that ICJ (non-)ruling, it was immediately clear that it doesn't have any influence on states to change their opinion. Why should they?

Well, if the ruling would have been "the UDI was illegal", maybe there would have been some countries rescinding their recognition. But only maybe. If the ruling would have been "Kosovo Albanians have the very right to secede and create an own state after their human rights have been violated by Serbia before 1999", then I'm sure some more countries would have recognized Kosovo by now.

So what? Even when India`s stance would not change (btw. according the text there are still examining the ICJ decision) what would it change in EUROPE? India is far away, and 99.99999% of the population have different concerns then supporting Serbia. This news is only to cheer up a hopeless situation. Not more. Wait for the UN GA.

Country after country confirm
the kangaroo self-ordained ICG has neither advisory nor legal juristiction over the affairs of a sovereign nation.
Leonidas.
As much as you Serbo-Greeco philes want to discredit the ICJ reputation doesn't mean that u will, there's the question, why did Serbia ask the ICJ if they didn't believe in the independence and fairnes of this institution?? or is it that Serbs are obsesed with lost batles, please let's be honest for once, all this article says is that India hasn't change it's stance and it's rewieuing the ICJ opinion, I did not see anywhere in the article that it will not or never, they their own problems and have to be careful, it is not that they are suporting Serbia or defending any international law because when it get to that neither Serbia nor India give a hut for int law.
And by the way dear Serbs get ready for another celebration of the UN defeat in september, think of an exscuse or something to spin it in glory.

India not recognizing UDI is contrary to the declaration of the FM of Kosova (Skender Hyseni) that more recognitions are coming after ICJ ruling. While this is certainly a set back it has also to be taken as a lesson that a change is needed in the corrupt government of Kosova because our representatives do not care they go to official visits only to do business for themselves.

Seems like Serbia still has most of the Non-Aligned Movement eating out of its hands. The truth is becoming clear that most countries and people of the world will never respect an American puppet state. If only western recognitions matter, look forward to never being a UN member.

I came across this article during lunch from a former Indian intelligance officer and now security analyst who has had extensive experience in Sikkim, Punjab and Kashmir. http://sify.com/news/Why-India-must-oppose-Kosovo-s-independence-news-News-kgdjT7jejhf.html?sifyoutbrainnewsrecco=obinsite

It gives the reader a good explanation on why New Delhi is supporting Belgrade and how many in the Indian poilitical establishment are thinking on the Kosovo issue.

Of course that India is worried and it will be partitioned in some other parts, since minorities in India are being burned alive and killed often by majority during the year (sikhs, muslim, christians).

``India won’t recognize Kosovo``

who cares ... lol

But.. but... but... I read in Koha Ditore that India would recognize "Kosova" soon, how could this be???
It has to be serbian propaganda from the BLGD regime?

We have to punish Serbia for spreading this lies about India? We all know that India will recognize "Kosova" soon, just as Russia will, isn't that what the Snake said? And he would never lie, right?

"Mr. Droutsas: ....and allow me to say at this point that this opinion (ICJ opinion) contains very interesting information, positive data, very positive data, I would say, regarding the Cyprus issue, the Republic of Cyprus, where this opinion says in a very clear manner that the Turkish invasion was a flagrant violation of international law, and, as a result of this invasion – the violation of international law – the unilateral declaration of independence of the pseudo-state (North Cyprus) was made.
...........................
Mr. Droutsas: It isn’t very widely known that the ICJ opinion on Kosovo has very positive ramifications with regard to Cyprus. "


Very interesting and at the same time funny on how Greece justifies the ICJ ruling in favor of Cyprus cause. We all know what this means in a near future. We also have learned a thing or two on how politics work.

Maybe they will not recognise Kosova, maybe this area will be for a long time a non secure area and a eternal dispute between serbs and albanians, but no one can deny any more Kosova as a regional, political and historical reality. And this is not any more an albanian problem, but a serbian one. Balkans can not afford once again to become a line between East and West.

If you read the transcript it says nothing that they wont recognise. It says that they are aware of the decision and are evaluating it. So please just cool your horses everyone. More recognitions are coming. Jeremic's envoy in the Carabeian begged to just have enough time to introduce the Un GA bill. I know that he was told OK but we are not supporting it and we are gone recognise right after it . How I know this... It is good to be the King.....

How terrible...Serbia needs to be completely destroyed? My readings of history tell me that Serbia was against Nazis and Hitler while the Albanians were saluting Hitler. Now think about it... Perhaps he would prefer to live under the Nazis.

Why am I always right?

Indians (Gypsis) support they own brothers.Thumb up !

(Kathryn, 11 August 2010 05:08)

You have some probloems with the history my dear.

For me, after I read that ICJ (non-)ruling, it was immediately clear that it doesn't have any influence on states to change their opinion. Why should they?

Well, if the ruling would have been "the UDI was illegal", maybe there would have been some countries rescinding their recognition. But only maybe. If the ruling would have been "Kosovo Albanians have the very right to secede and create an own state after their human rights have been violated by Serbia before 1999", then I'm sure some more countries would have recognized Kosovo by now.
(Top, 10 August 2010 16:51)
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Thats because serbia gov asked an opinion for UDI not seccesion, so how do serb gov spin this?
Even though UDI decleration was not illegal they didnt say anything about seccesion which they didnt ask for in the first place,

now who can serb gov blame for asking the wrong question? Certanly not themselves they are not used to it

I wounder who they will blame for the upcoming UN GA when their resoulution gets scraped,
maybe blame theselves for once.

btw, its their last diplomatic chance, and wining it look like mission impossible.

india has not... at the moment... changed its position, but no matter how Serb media would like to portray it, they certainly have not said "never" ...and in fact you can watch as Indias for the first time ...uses terms like "study" and "evolving" bit by bit softening its language regarding kosovo.

Yes, Serb apologist desperately try to portray these countries who are on the fence as somehow being die hard loving friends and supporters .... but grasping at propaganda wont help a bit.

Serbia may wish to convince these folks that the sky is falling, but so long as the process of recognition solidifies kosovo's case as unique, it will easily satisfy these countries own fears that parallels will be drawn to their internal issues.

As long as Serbia refuses to adopt a European perspective, she will continue to remain on the outside looking in. It is Serbia's choice.

Perhaps it is time for another great Serb migration! India seems to be an appropriate destination.

Serbia is brought in her knees but they need be completely destroyed in order for Balkans to get the final peace.

After all, we do not care whether India or Brazil or any non-Western country recognise Kosovo. We are free and liberated after more than 6 century of occupation and nobody cares why Serbia aimes at destroying itself for TOTALLY NONSENSE claim about Kosovo.

This is the same as Albanians saying part of Scandinavia is Albanian. No-one will heed us on that and no-one is heeding serbia anynmore on Kosovo.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 14:55)


Ha, ha, ha. When your great grandfather comes back from the dead will the west try that one again, ha, ha, ha. Do you think for a moment that the west would not use force against Serbia if it could? THEY CANNOT!

Brazil, China, India and Russia are the next superpowers of this planet – that’s why it matters. The Albanian empire slipping through your fingers eh? Your guys picked the losing side; again.

Indians (Gypsis) support they own brothers.Thumb up !
(BENI, 11 August 2010 15:02)
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You're obviously belittling gypsies here. This just goes to show how racist and narror minded you and all who think like you are. Insulting a group of people by implying that they are low is totally unacceptable but doing it to a group of people who have nothing to do with this situation is deservig of contempt. You have just disqualified yourself to discuss anything to do with human dignity.

The Albanian empire slipping through your fingers eh? Your guys picked the losing side; again.
(sj, 12 August 2010 07:05)

They always have those top of the range Uncle Enver brand bunkers to retreat to in case things get a bit tough :)

All yours for €29.99. Get one now before he is completley sold out.

I am an Indian and I recognize Kosovo. A country's official position is often constrained by local geopolitical concerns. But I can assure you, if most of my fellow countrymen actually knew what happened in Kosovo and what Serbia did to both Kosovo and Srebrenica, they would whole heartedly recognize and sympathize with Kosovo. Cheers!

They will recognise Kosovo and how.

Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. BTW they are not Serbia, as t hey have at least some dignity.

Wait and see.

Serbian supporters,

Serbia is brought in her knees but they need be completely destroyed in order for Balkans to get the final peace.

After all, we do not care whether India or Brazil or any non-Western country recognise Kosovo. We are free and liberated after more than 6 century of occupation and nobody cares why Serbia aimes at destroying itself for TOTALLY NONSENSE claim about Kosovo.

This is the same as Albanians saying part of Scandinavia is Albanian. No-one will heed us on that and no-one is heeding serbia anynmore on Kosovo.

So what? Even when India`s stance would not change (btw. according the text there are still examining the ICJ decision) what would it change in EUROPE? India is far away, and 99.99999% of the population have different concerns then supporting Serbia. This news is only to cheer up a hopeless situation. Not more. Wait for the UN GA.

Indians (Gypsis) support they own brothers.Thumb up !

For me it was clear that after a ICJ ruling like this, nothing will change. So: Where are the dozens of new recognition which some people predicted and announced to follow? There wasn't even one!
(Top, 10 August 2010 13:43)

And where are the 10-15 countries recinding recognition? Didnt Team Serbia constantly "assure" that Serbia is going to win the ICJ case? Now you celebrate that (so far) no further country didnt recognize, completely blanking out what have been said before the 22th July. And we even didn`t have the UN GA yet.

The Albanians can wait this out without any hurry. Even when it takes years, decades, whatever, and for sure, the first new recognitions will come soon. 100%

"Mr. Droutsas: ....and allow me to say at this point that this opinion (ICJ opinion) contains very interesting information, positive data, very positive data, I would say, regarding the Cyprus issue, the Republic of Cyprus, where this opinion says in a very clear manner that the Turkish invasion was a flagrant violation of international law, and, as a result of this invasion – the violation of international law – the unilateral declaration of independence of the pseudo-state (North Cyprus) was made.
...........................
Mr. Droutsas: It isn’t very widely known that the ICJ opinion on Kosovo has very positive ramifications with regard to Cyprus. "


Very interesting and at the same time funny on how Greece justifies the ICJ ruling in favor of Cyprus cause. We all know what this means in a near future. We also have learned a thing or two on how politics work.

Time is Serbia’s side; Look at the future world powers that will not recognize Kosovo:
1. China
2. Russia
3. India
4. Brazil
The rest are of little to no consequence starting with the US of A. To the Albanian readers, if the US could use NATO at this very moment to force Serbia to recognize Kosovo it would not hesitate for a micro second, but like all spent powers it’s all talk and BS. The US did not tell its people the reasons why its navy did not hold exercises in the Yellow sea near North Korea – China told them to pack up and leave ha, ha,.
Like all good stews Kosovo is better left to bubble slowly over a low heat and watch the EU/US burn their little fingers over the Kosovo pot.
The more things change the more they stay the same.

``India won’t recognize Kosovo``

who cares ... lol

India will probably be the next permanent member of the UN Security Council... so, it will be very interesting to see half of the UN member not recognising the illegal republic of Kosovo. Kosovo will simply never be a proper country. Because the way it was "created" is a total shame for world politics and international legality. You cannot create a country by having others "steal" the land for you. Kosovo is part of Serbia and it will always be. As Northern Epirus is a part of Greece....

Thank you India. I'm glad Serbia has all of the emerging powers on our side. The West is just about to face its second economic shock during this collapse.

The manipulated ICJ decision has done nothing for "Kosova". That demonstrates greatly how weak this independence movement really is. I also demostrates how the West has lost much of its influence.

Greetings from Romania

USA with 69 recognitions against the rest of the world with 131.

Yes, clearly Kosovo is recognized as an independent state.

To all the Albanian 'experts' here who were saying that India would recognise your little parastate, well folks New Delhi has given its firm answer. A big fat NO.

Thank you India :)

If you read the transcript it says nothing that they wont recognise. It says that they are aware of the decision and are evaluating it. So please just cool your horses everyone. More recognitions are coming. Jeremic's envoy in the Carabeian begged to just have enough time to introduce the Un GA bill. I know that he was told OK but we are not supporting it and we are gone recognise right after it . How I know this... It is good to be the King.....

Oh dear, oh dear.....looks like the flood of recognitions hasn't transpired :) I'm sure the albanian posters will no doubt say they don't care about India as it's a poor country. However, keep in mind that Britain has gone cap in hand to India to beg for business. Enjoy your "independence" while it lasts.

Country after country confirm
the kangaroo self-ordained ICG has neither advisory nor legal juristiction over the affairs of a sovereign nation.

It is just a political extension of Western clubs such as EU & Nato and its sole purpose is to legitimatise the illegal actions of those clubs.

Therefore,entrenched positions will remain in place for the forseeable future as well as their implications.

Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. (...)
Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37)

Is this only pure wishfull thinking? Or does it involves too much beer? Or even some rakia? Hm, doesn't mather. It is always funny to find people who have no clue about your people& country (Romania) but they are very sure what your people&country will do regarding this or that...

From Northern Romania, close to the border with Moldavia Republic :)
Alexandru

Of course that India is worried and it will be partitioned in some other parts, since minorities in India are being burned alive and killed often by majority during the year (sikhs, muslim, christians).

Country after country confirm
the kangaroo self-ordained ICG has neither advisory nor legal juristiction over the affairs of a sovereign nation.
Leonidas.
As much as you Serbo-Greeco philes want to discredit the ICJ reputation doesn't mean that u will, there's the question, why did Serbia ask the ICJ if they didn't believe in the independence and fairnes of this institution?? or is it that Serbs are obsesed with lost batles, please let's be honest for once, all this article says is that India hasn't change it's stance and it's rewieuing the ICJ opinion, I did not see anywhere in the article that it will not or never, they their own problems and have to be careful, it is not that they are suporting Serbia or defending any international law because when it get to that neither Serbia nor India give a hut for int law.
And by the way dear Serbs get ready for another celebration of the UN defeat in september, think of an exscuse or something to spin it in glory.

Maybe they will not recognise Kosova, maybe this area will be for a long time a non secure area and a eternal dispute between serbs and albanians, but no one can deny any more Kosova as a regional, political and historical reality. And this is not any more an albanian problem, but a serbian one. Balkans can not afford once again to become a line between East and West.

Good news! India is the second largest country in the world (population) and with China, that's a lot of people. At any rate, India and China are two up and coming super powers that I'm sure Kosovo would love to have back their UDI. Instead, they are both working together with Serbia and investing in Serbia's future. Forget the EU and stick with these countries. Yes, the EU will continue to be a nice place to vacation with its nice ski resorts and quaint villages, but the real money and power will be east. Kosovo, though, could get into these countries good graces if it's Albanian leadership would sit down at the negotiating table with Serbia and hammer out a solution that is acceptable to all sides. Then everyone in the Balkans would do well. What a wonderful world it would be. I guess I can dream.

All future powers are on our side.
Time is def on our side... we should just drag this a bit longer and wait till America collapses econmically.

Not a single new recognition since the ICJ verdict for Kosovo. Albanians and their wish for 100 recognitions will reamain....a wish.
There is no exchange with Kosovo so there is no real reason to recognize. Albanians continue to live in the dark. No schengen, no jobs, nothing...

The only way BRIC will recognize Kosovo is, ahh, heck, never.

Hmmmm...so nice to see that the largest democracy in the world (population wise) is sticking to it's guns. My country cannot paint this picture as ex-communist versus democracies with India in the picture as it is nowadays. My country cannot afford to piss India off, after all that's where half of our jobs have been sent. Oh, how I yearn for the day when the American people get sick and tired of our wayward government. It's already starting to happen with the tea parties. Our founding fathers would never approve of the way my country has proceeded to stick it's nose everywhere in the world, they would be appalled at the belligerance my country has shown to those who don't "do as we say", like a small child lashing out when it doesn't get it's way. The media in my country never showed us the other side of the story, never told us the types we sided with (Nazi sympathizers) during those tumultuous times, never told us the whole truth behind what happened in the Balkans. Americans are shocked when I tell them the WHOLE story, not just the one-sided crapfest the western media spoonfed them. Eventually, all of this will come out, it always does, the truth cannot be contained, it always finds it's way into the light. Until then Serbia needs to buy time, continue to do as it is doing and wait for the ethnic Albanians to show their true colors. I just hope it doesn't cost more Serbs their lives when it happens.

Why am I always right?

of course they don't recognize Kosovo because they have to deal with Kashmir

"Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. "
Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37)

Yes, wait and see. But maybe you should have noticed in the meanwhile that each and every of these 5 EU members already announced that their stance hasn't changed and they WON'T recognize Kosovo.

And no, after this ICJ ruling, the countries have all the choice - the UDI wasn't againt international law, and it was NOTHING said about the legality of a secession.

For me, after I read that ICJ (non-)ruling, it was immediately clear that it doesn't have any influence on states to change their opinion. Why should they?

Well, if the ruling would have been "the UDI was illegal", maybe there would have been some countries rescinding their recognition. But only maybe. If the ruling would have been "Kosovo Albanians have the very right to secede and create an own state after their human rights have been violated by Serbia before 1999", then I'm sure some more countries would have recognized Kosovo by now.
(Top, 10 August 2010 16:51)
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Thats because serbia gov asked an opinion for UDI not seccesion, so how do serb gov spin this?
Even though UDI decleration was not illegal they didnt say anything about seccesion which they didnt ask for in the first place,

now who can serb gov blame for asking the wrong question? Certanly not themselves they are not used to it

I wounder who they will blame for the upcoming UN GA when their resoulution gets scraped,
maybe blame theselves for once.

btw, its their last diplomatic chance, and wining it look like mission impossible.

"BTW they are not Serbia, as t hey have at least some dignity.

Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37) "


PRN! why this bitterness in your post...???

do you feel nervous? well, let´s say you have reason to be nervous, if you are one of these naive independence-supporters - but on the other side you have no reason to be nervous, since Serbia will prevail.

and, you know it´s like when Serbia returned to KiM after the Ottomans were forced to retreat: with the Serbs there came modern water supply and electricity...

the next time it will also be an improvement for you. you only cannot understand that yet.

last but not least, why are you mentioning dignity when you are not only whining in order to get others to fight for you ad anfterwards even are not ashamed of living of permanent foreign support?

so, talking about dignity in your case sounds pretty weird.

india has not... at the moment... changed its position, but no matter how Serb media would like to portray it, they certainly have not said "never" ...and in fact you can watch as Indias for the first time ...uses terms like "study" and "evolving" bit by bit softening its language regarding kosovo.

Yes, Serb apologist desperately try to portray these countries who are on the fence as somehow being die hard loving friends and supporters .... but grasping at propaganda wont help a bit.

Serbia may wish to convince these folks that the sky is falling, but so long as the process of recognition solidifies kosovo's case as unique, it will easily satisfy these countries own fears that parallels will be drawn to their internal issues.

No wave of recognitions after ICJ decision???
I´m afraid the positions are fixed for both sides until there is a diplomatic solution.
That means until then there will be no real progress towards the future on balkan.

As long as Serbia refuses to adopt a European perspective, she will continue to remain on the outside looking in. It is Serbia's choice.

Perhaps it is time for another great Serb migration! India seems to be an appropriate destination.

How terrible...Serbia needs to be completely destroyed? My readings of history tell me that Serbia was against Nazis and Hitler while the Albanians were saluting Hitler. Now think about it... Perhaps he would prefer to live under the Nazis.

They will recognise Kosovo and how.

Just like the remaning 5 EU members who will have no choice BUT to respect the ICJ opinion because on the contrary it can be interpret it as acting against international law. BTW they are not Serbia, as t hey have at least some dignity.

Wait and see.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 09:37)
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I am guessing little voices are telling you all this.
What violation of international law are you talking about? The fact that they won't recognise you is not a violation of international law and the ICJ only said that saying you are independent does not violate the law but didn't say anything about actual secession itself. They hand balled that one to the UN.

Now every non-recognition is celebrated, which is as stupid as to celebrate every new recognition.

For me it was clear that after a ICJ ruling like this, nothing will change. So: Where are the dozens of new recognition which some people predicted and announced to follow? There wasn't even one!

Well I guess in the absence of any unified international forum and the ICJ ruling being "advisory" only, states are left to decide for themselves what to do. In the absence of negotiations and dialogue, this looks increasingly like a frozen conflict.

I hereby formally announce my petition. A petition to enable PRN to be Serbia's "national comedian". We can use his quotes on all media outlets. Hell, we could even get him a tv spot - the more tv slots the merrier. Fellow Serbs, never mind the dire state of the economy or the fight in the UN over Kosovo, but just remember to tune into the daily dose of "PRN Today" for an uplifting laugh and "alternative view" of international law and order and international politics.

And PRN, may I take this opportunity to express my desire to offer my services as your manager. I'm sure we could make you a global phenomenon and imagine all the money we could generate with pay per view on the internet and cable tv. You could actually earn a good living - honestly for a change. We could even donate some of the proceeds to a new charity - "Former UCK United"

India not recognizing UDI is contrary to the declaration of the FM of Kosova (Skender Hyseni) that more recognitions are coming after ICJ ruling. While this is certainly a set back it has also to be taken as a lesson that a change is needed in the corrupt government of Kosova because our representatives do not care they go to official visits only to do business for themselves.

But.. but... but... I read in Koha Ditore that India would recognize "Kosova" soon, how could this be???
It has to be serbian propaganda from the BLGD regime?

We have to punish Serbia for spreading this lies about India? We all know that India will recognize "Kosova" soon, just as Russia will, isn't that what the Snake said? And he would never lie, right?

I came across this article during lunch from a former Indian intelligance officer and now security analyst who has had extensive experience in Sikkim, Punjab and Kashmir. http://sify.com/news/Why-India-must-oppose-Kosovo-s-independence-news-News-kgdjT7jejhf.html?sifyoutbrainnewsrecco=obinsite

It gives the reader a good explanation on why New Delhi is supporting Belgrade and how many in the Indian poilitical establishment are thinking on the Kosovo issue.

Serbia is brought in her knees but they need be completely destroyed in order for Balkans to get the final peace.

After all, we do not care whether India or Brazil or any non-Western country recognise Kosovo. We are free and liberated after more than 6 century of occupation and nobody cares why Serbia aimes at destroying itself for TOTALLY NONSENSE claim about Kosovo.

This is the same as Albanians saying part of Scandinavia is Albanian. No-one will heed us on that and no-one is heeding serbia anynmore on Kosovo.
(PRN, 10 August 2010 14:55)


Ha, ha, ha. When your great grandfather comes back from the dead will the west try that one again, ha, ha, ha. Do you think for a moment that the west would not use force against Serbia if it could? THEY CANNOT!

Brazil, China, India and Russia are the next superpowers of this planet – that’s why it matters. The Albanian empire slipping through your fingers eh? Your guys picked the losing side; again.

'The Albanians can wait this out without any hurry. Even when it takes years, decades, whatever,'

Actually John C this is a mistaken belief. Kosovo Albanian patience for improvment in living standards and the economy is not everlasting. Nor is the patience to be able to govern ones own affairs.

To be clear that if things continue at the current rate - ie progress is very limited to small urban areas, whilst things remain the same for all other citizens. And if there is seen to be a 'democratic deficit' ie that Kosovo Albanian media decide that the internationals are occupiers in the same way the Serbian government was, then civil unrest is a very real possilibity.

What the internationals need more than ever is some evidence of progress to both present to their leaders and to present to the Kosovo Albanian population.

Therefore your welcoming of the current situation is very foolhardy.

Sadly the ICJ decision has made no impact and things are just as bad as they were...

(Kathryn, 11 August 2010 05:08)

You have some probloems with the history my dear.

Indians (Gypsis) support they own brothers.Thumb up !
(BENI, 11 August 2010 15:02)
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You're obviously belittling gypsies here. This just goes to show how racist and narror minded you and all who think like you are. Insulting a group of people by implying that they are low is totally unacceptable but doing it to a group of people who have nothing to do with this situation is deservig of contempt. You have just disqualified yourself to discuss anything to do with human dignity.

The Albanian empire slipping through your fingers eh? Your guys picked the losing side; again.
(sj, 12 August 2010 07:05)

They always have those top of the range Uncle Enver brand bunkers to retreat to in case things get a bit tough :)

All yours for €29.99. Get one now before he is completley sold out.

"And where are the 10-15 countries recinding recognition? Didnt Team Serbia constantly "assure" that Serbia is going to win the ICJ case? Now you celebrate that (so far) no further country didnt recognize, completely blanking out what have been said before the 22th July. And we even didn`t have the UN GA yet. "
(JohnC., 10 August 2010 15:10)

For me, after I read that ICJ (non-)ruling, it was immediately clear that it doesn't have any influence on states to change their opinion. Why should they?

Well, if the ruling would have been "the UDI was illegal", maybe there would have been some countries rescinding their recognition. But only maybe. If the ruling would have been "Kosovo Albanians have the very right to secede and create an own state after their human rights have been violated by Serbia before 1999", then I'm sure some more countries would have recognized Kosovo by now.

Seems like Serbia still has most of the Non-Aligned Movement eating out of its hands. The truth is becoming clear that most countries and people of the world will never respect an American puppet state. If only western recognitions matter, look forward to never being a UN member.

I am an Indian and I recognize Kosovo. A country's official position is often constrained by local geopolitical concerns. But I can assure you, if most of my fellow countrymen actually knew what happened in Kosovo and what Serbia did to both Kosovo and Srebrenica, they would whole heartedly recognize and sympathize with Kosovo. Cheers!