SPO leader criticizes Kosovo resolution

Right On Mr Draskovic. Kosovo is free and Serbia should accept it.

Luckily for Serbia, the people long ago took proper measure of Vuk Draskovic as an unstable, unreliable and irrational jester on the political stage. His abject surrender to any and all foreign pressures is the best indicator of this man's lack of solidarity with his own people. Good riddance to an unelectable clown. Please re-categorize this story to the entertainment section.

John Bosnitch
Journalist

Mr. Drašković has forgotten the north of Kosovo:

The north of Kosovo cannot remain part of the Kosovo, whether the Kosovo is an autonomous region in the Republic of Serbia or an independent state.

The north of Kosovo is not subject to any compromise !

The north of Kosovo is Serbian !

John Bosnitch
Journalist
(John Bosnitch

John, we know by now that you are a journalist. Do you have to repeat it each time? It is not something like being the president of the USA. Also why write it twice. In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.

Not only does Draskovic make complete sense, but protecting significant sites and heritage is right and compelling. This is something Serbia can win on.

Draskovic has 2 percent of the votes in Serbia and is demanding this and that. Then again as an american lapdog he has no other choice then to obay his master and do as they tell him.

Good old Joe....he who frequently boasts about himself here calling out someone else - hypocritical Joe.

Just another of old Joe's many rude comments.

He is right. It's time to think about the long term. Why break international ties over something that you have no control over. Kosovo is gone, let it go, it's time to move on already.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
(John Bosnitch

John, we know by now that you are a journalist. Do you have to repeat it each time? It is not something like being the president of the USA. Also why write it twice. In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.
(Joe, 7 August 2010 14:54)

Joe, do you really think we care how many languages you speak or how many emails you send every day?? We don't. And according to you, since you love anything anti-Serbian, I then speak 6 languages - Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, English and French. Impressive eh??

John Bosnitch,
I couldn't agree more and keep on writing your excellent articles. Vuk has lost his marbles long ago and he and his wife should be ignored or sent to albania.
Cheers!!

I don't know much about Vuc but I previously thought he was in Kostunica's camp ..... maybe he WAS .... can someone clarify please? ....I wonder how much the West bribed him .....

I guess there are reasonable politicians in Serbia now days. They are Vuk Daskovic and Cedomir Jovanovic. What they are suggesting is that the current policies of the Serbian government are holding back not just Serbian people but the whole region. \

"Serbia was forced to pull out of Kosovo with the Kumanovo Agreement and the resolution of the Security Council,” Drašković said, adding that this is stated in the constitution as well, and cannot be changed.

How difficult is that to understand guys? How many times it is needed to explain to those whom don't want to understand?

Bravo Mr drasovic!
Finly someone Accept the Truth Others will follow you I am very sure. Peace to All
Serbs,Albaians Etc.

" - Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, English and French. Impressive eh?? "

Not really. Because of their very slight differences - like local dialects in some other countries - try to count Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin as one language. Otherwise because of your English and French - known as universal languages - I congratulate you.
(Joe, 8 August 2010 00:38)

My point exactly Joe. I am glad that you agree there there are no such languages as Bosnian, Montenegrin, or Croatian. They are all made up languages, and do not exist. It is all Serbian, they all speak Serbian! These people are in denial. I am glad you agree with me Joe. :))

Cheers!!

Joe,

You actually speak five languages! Besides Hungarian, Enlish (or do you call it American?) I guess you may also speak Hebrew and Russian. The fifth one you are actually very good at and it is called BS.

If you don't like to hear it from Vuk Draskovic, how about listening to a sweet-faced Russian grandmother who heads some institute for the study of Balkan politics - http://www.danas.rs/danasrs/politika/promenom_pitanja_medjunarodni_sud_pravde_izbegao_sustinu_.56.html?news_id=196644

Serbia's case before the ICJ has made everything more complicated for everyone else, she says, without improving Serbia's position. There's little chance of winning at the GA with the current resolution, and what if Serbia loses? (Russians really don't like to be on the losing side - notice how she focuses on the truly irrelevant omission of the word "unilateral" in the ICJ opinion: define the opinion out of existence, and it doesn't matter any more.) "Serbia should have known, it's all Serbia's fault ..."

With friends like this ... you need some new friends.

"John Bosnitch
Journalist
(John Bosnitch

John, we know by now that you are a journalist. Do you have to repeat it each time? It is not something like being the president of the USA. Also why write it twice. In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.
(Joe, 7 August 2010 14:54)"

Joe,

You comment on John's posting tells more about yourself than about John. At least it is good that you are not trying to hide your degrading attitude. I think it is extremely arrogant that you, as a self-proclaimed business person, thinks that you can give a professional journalist advice about real journalism. In addition, you try to oversell your smartness with your comment about the four languages your claim to know. Writing a dozen business e-mails a day means nothing. We have no way to check them to judge their real level of quality. So unless we have a chance to check your claims personally and objectively you should refraim from making all kinds of glorifying comments. A real business person would be more careful, but then on the otherhand you are more American than your hero GWB and in the US only one thing matters: just sell even if the quality is junk.

Why brag that you, supposedly, speak 4 languages, Joe? Isn't it enough that you are ridiculing someone here for no reason, nothing to do with the topic, but you have to throw in that you are a polyglot. Many John is a really nice guy. Are you just offended by him because you disagree with him? Anyway, Kosovo will always be Serbia's. It is it's very soul, and no one can take that away. People have tried for centuries and failed. Understand?

"thinks that you can give a professional journalist advice about real journalism"
milan

There are categories of journalists. The writer of my local paper is a journalist and the editorialists of the New York Times or Figaro also.

An invisible man trying to make a headline.

Just a note to Joe...

I sign my name once; the B92 programming adds it a second time.

The reason I sign my full, real name is because anonymous talk is often cheap and I want to those who take the time to read my remarks to know that I stand behind every word that I say.

I am indeed a journalist and I covered the Balkans from the front lines and across all of the former Yugoslav republics for more than a decade.

I welcome your comments, Joe, and consider them to be just as good a reflection of you as my words are of me.

I always add my e-mail address so that anyone who might wish to contact me to collaborate, or to debate things further, may do so without disrupting this comments section.

Best regards to all,

John Bosnitch

Sorry but I beat you on that one. I speak, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Serbo Croatian and English.
Who is smarter now? You should bow to me.
(Peggy, 8 August 2010 02:12)

I hate to tell you Peeggy that you actually speak 2 languages. Every language that you mentioned here is Serbo - Croatian except for English.

Peggy,

What happened to Albanian language!/ why you never made an attempt to lear it?

" - Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, English and French. Impressive eh?? "

Not really. Because of their very slight differences - like local dialects in some other countries - try to count Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin as one language. Otherwise because of your English and French - known as universal languages - I congratulate you.

In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.
(Joe, 7 August 2010 14:54)"
==================

Sorry but I beat you on that one. I speak, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Serbo Croatian and English.
Who is smarter now? You should bow to me.

I hate to tell you Peeggy that you actually speak 2 languages. Every language that you mentioned here is Serbo - Croatian except for English.
(kosovaman, 8 August 2010 14:22)
======================

I know exactly how many languages I speak but it seems some people can't tell when they are being made fun of.

There are no strict bounderies between languages, ‘literary norms” and “dialects”, or “dialect continuums”. Scientifically the South Slavic dialects at least partially mutually understandable between the Alps and the Black Sea could be divided into three continuums: Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian and Bulgarian. (the latter being the most distinctive with its different grammar – with no inclination but with article.) The Slovenian, although covering the smallest area is more diversive. The difference between the different Slovenian dialects is grater than those between Serbian and Croatian. Yet it is considered to be one language. The Bulgarian dialect continuum was divided onto two languages – Bulgarian and Macedonian. The Serbo-Croatian into four (so far): Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin (in process of creation). As they say, the difference between a language and a dialect is the possession of a flag and am army!

"You actually speak five languages! Besides Hungarian, Enlish (or do you call it American?) I guess you may also speak Hebrew and Russian."
Milan

Do I notice an antisemitic allusion? Sorry, I have to deceive you, I am not Jewish.
So please replace Hebrew by German. As for my Russian it is limited and I don't count it just as I don't count my limited Spanish. Currently I try to enhance my Russian. I also enjoy songs like Kathyusa, Kalinka, etc.

Dragan

So what if all those languages are Croatian and not Serbian as you say?
Give me some facts.

Milan,

In my previous comment please include French, the language of Moliere, Victot Hugo, Balzac, Baudelaire, Voltaire,etc.

Don't know much about Jovanovic but I think I remember this guy Draskovic. Correct me people if I am wrong but wasn't he the one who split the Serbian opposition when they could have thrown down Milosevic back in the 90's? When Milosevic lost the elections? Was it 1997? If this is him, then he is responsible for keeping Milosevic in power. And indirectly for what followed.

But now he is saying the right words. But what is the value of the right words for the wrong reasons? Can one be a hypocrite while telling the truth? Very interesting.

"Milan,

In my previous comment please include French, the language of Moliere, Victor Hugo, Balzac, Baudelaire, Voltaire,etc.
(Joe, 8 August 2010 01:32)"

I am not anti-Jewish so do not try to use that to label me. You once overestimate yourself by listing great French. Why not list Philippe Pétain, Napoleon, Sarkozy? There are indeed different levels of journalism (just like almost anything else) and you not fall belong in any category (and neither do I). John showed so my much grace, dignity, and tollerance in his comment to you and maybe you should learn something from him.

ahhhh yes old guy old thinking....if the city of moscow was a country in eu not russia just moscow it would be in top 5 largest economies of eu..bet u didnt know that mr draskovic bet u didnt .....serbia has been 10-20 yrs behind in its thinking of the world since 1990..thinking russia was way more powerful then it really was in 1990's and now thinking its way less powerful then it really is ..its our chance to get it right ... a fluid world we live in today

Must have been a long lunch!

John Bosnitch
Journalist
(John Bosnitch

John, we know by now that you are a journalist. Do you have to repeat it each time? It is not something like being the president of the USA. Also why write it twice. In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.

"thinks that you can give a professional journalist advice about real journalism"
milan

There are categories of journalists. The writer of my local paper is a journalist and the editorialists of the New York Times or Figaro also.

Mr. Drašković has forgotten the north of Kosovo:

The north of Kosovo cannot remain part of the Kosovo, whether the Kosovo is an autonomous region in the Republic of Serbia or an independent state.

The north of Kosovo is not subject to any compromise !

The north of Kosovo is Serbian !

Draskovic has 2 percent of the votes in Serbia and is demanding this and that. Then again as an american lapdog he has no other choice then to obay his master and do as they tell him.

Luckily for Serbia, the people long ago took proper measure of Vuk Draskovic as an unstable, unreliable and irrational jester on the political stage. His abject surrender to any and all foreign pressures is the best indicator of this man's lack of solidarity with his own people. Good riddance to an unelectable clown. Please re-categorize this story to the entertainment section.

John Bosnitch
Journalist

Right On Mr Draskovic. Kosovo is free and Serbia should accept it.

I don't know much about Vuc but I previously thought he was in Kostunica's camp ..... maybe he WAS .... can someone clarify please? ....I wonder how much the West bribed him .....

Milan,

In my previous comment please include French, the language of Moliere, Victot Hugo, Balzac, Baudelaire, Voltaire,etc.

"You actually speak five languages! Besides Hungarian, Enlish (or do you call it American?) I guess you may also speak Hebrew and Russian."
Milan

Do I notice an antisemitic allusion? Sorry, I have to deceive you, I am not Jewish.
So please replace Hebrew by German. As for my Russian it is limited and I don't count it just as I don't count my limited Spanish. Currently I try to enhance my Russian. I also enjoy songs like Kathyusa, Kalinka, etc.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
(John Bosnitch

John, we know by now that you are a journalist. Do you have to repeat it each time? It is not something like being the president of the USA. Also why write it twice. In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.
(Joe, 7 August 2010 14:54)

Joe, do you really think we care how many languages you speak or how many emails you send every day?? We don't. And according to you, since you love anything anti-Serbian, I then speak 6 languages - Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, English and French. Impressive eh??

John Bosnitch,
I couldn't agree more and keep on writing your excellent articles. Vuk has lost his marbles long ago and he and his wife should be ignored or sent to albania.
Cheers!!

Why brag that you, supposedly, speak 4 languages, Joe? Isn't it enough that you are ridiculing someone here for no reason, nothing to do with the topic, but you have to throw in that you are a polyglot. Many John is a really nice guy. Are you just offended by him because you disagree with him? Anyway, Kosovo will always be Serbia's. It is it's very soul, and no one can take that away. People have tried for centuries and failed. Understand?

Joe,

You actually speak five languages! Besides Hungarian, Enlish (or do you call it American?) I guess you may also speak Hebrew and Russian. The fifth one you are actually very good at and it is called BS.

Bravo Mr drasovic!
Finly someone Accept the Truth Others will follow you I am very sure. Peace to All
Serbs,Albaians Etc.

" - Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, English and French. Impressive eh?? "

Not really. Because of their very slight differences - like local dialects in some other countries - try to count Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin as one language. Otherwise because of your English and French - known as universal languages - I congratulate you.

Good old Joe....he who frequently boasts about himself here calling out someone else - hypocritical Joe.

Just another of old Joe's many rude comments.

"John Bosnitch
Journalist
(John Bosnitch

John, we know by now that you are a journalist. Do you have to repeat it each time? It is not something like being the president of the USA. Also why write it twice. In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.
(Joe, 7 August 2010 14:54)"

Joe,

You comment on John's posting tells more about yourself than about John. At least it is good that you are not trying to hide your degrading attitude. I think it is extremely arrogant that you, as a self-proclaimed business person, thinks that you can give a professional journalist advice about real journalism. In addition, you try to oversell your smartness with your comment about the four languages your claim to know. Writing a dozen business e-mails a day means nothing. We have no way to check them to judge their real level of quality. So unless we have a chance to check your claims personally and objectively you should refraim from making all kinds of glorifying comments. A real business person would be more careful, but then on the otherhand you are more American than your hero GWB and in the US only one thing matters: just sell even if the quality is junk.

Not only does Draskovic make complete sense, but protecting significant sites and heritage is right and compelling. This is something Serbia can win on.

ahhhh yes old guy old thinking....if the city of moscow was a country in eu not russia just moscow it would be in top 5 largest economies of eu..bet u didnt know that mr draskovic bet u didnt .....serbia has been 10-20 yrs behind in its thinking of the world since 1990..thinking russia was way more powerful then it really was in 1990's and now thinking its way less powerful then it really is ..its our chance to get it right ... a fluid world we live in today

"Serbia was forced to pull out of Kosovo with the Kumanovo Agreement and the resolution of the Security Council,” Drašković said, adding that this is stated in the constitution as well, and cannot be changed.

How difficult is that to understand guys? How many times it is needed to explain to those whom don't want to understand?

An invisible man trying to make a headline.

I guess there are reasonable politicians in Serbia now days. They are Vuk Daskovic and Cedomir Jovanovic. What they are suggesting is that the current policies of the Serbian government are holding back not just Serbian people but the whole region. \

He is right. It's time to think about the long term. Why break international ties over something that you have no control over. Kosovo is gone, let it go, it's time to move on already.

In real journalism people are not repeating things unnecesserly. In business life I learned to write a dozen e-mails per day in a concise way even though English is only my fourth language.
(Joe, 7 August 2010 14:54)"
==================

Sorry but I beat you on that one. I speak, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Serbo Croatian and English.
Who is smarter now? You should bow to me.

Peggy,

What happened to Albanian language!/ why you never made an attempt to lear it?

" - Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, English and French. Impressive eh?? "

Not really. Because of their very slight differences - like local dialects in some other countries - try to count Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin as one language. Otherwise because of your English and French - known as universal languages - I congratulate you.
(Joe, 8 August 2010 00:38)

My point exactly Joe. I am glad that you agree there there are no such languages as Bosnian, Montenegrin, or Croatian. They are all made up languages, and do not exist. It is all Serbian, they all speak Serbian! These people are in denial. I am glad you agree with me Joe. :))

Cheers!!

"Milan,

In my previous comment please include French, the language of Moliere, Victor Hugo, Balzac, Baudelaire, Voltaire,etc.
(Joe, 8 August 2010 01:32)"

I am not anti-Jewish so do not try to use that to label me. You once overestimate yourself by listing great French. Why not list Philippe Pétain, Napoleon, Sarkozy? There are indeed different levels of journalism (just like almost anything else) and you not fall belong in any category (and neither do I). John showed so my much grace, dignity, and tollerance in his comment to you and maybe you should learn something from him.

Don't know much about Jovanovic but I think I remember this guy Draskovic. Correct me people if I am wrong but wasn't he the one who split the Serbian opposition when they could have thrown down Milosevic back in the 90's? When Milosevic lost the elections? Was it 1997? If this is him, then he is responsible for keeping Milosevic in power. And indirectly for what followed.

But now he is saying the right words. But what is the value of the right words for the wrong reasons? Can one be a hypocrite while telling the truth? Very interesting.

If you don't like to hear it from Vuk Draskovic, how about listening to a sweet-faced Russian grandmother who heads some institute for the study of Balkan politics - http://www.danas.rs/danasrs/politika/promenom_pitanja_medjunarodni_sud_pravde_izbegao_sustinu_.56.html?news_id=196644

Serbia's case before the ICJ has made everything more complicated for everyone else, she says, without improving Serbia's position. There's little chance of winning at the GA with the current resolution, and what if Serbia loses? (Russians really don't like to be on the losing side - notice how she focuses on the truly irrelevant omission of the word "unilateral" in the ICJ opinion: define the opinion out of existence, and it doesn't matter any more.) "Serbia should have known, it's all Serbia's fault ..."

With friends like this ... you need some new friends.

I hate to tell you Peeggy that you actually speak 2 languages. Every language that you mentioned here is Serbo - Croatian except for English.
(kosovaman, 8 August 2010 14:22)
======================

I know exactly how many languages I speak but it seems some people can't tell when they are being made fun of.

Dragan

So what if all those languages are Croatian and not Serbian as you say?
Give me some facts.

Sorry but I beat you on that one. I speak, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Serbo Croatian and English.
Who is smarter now? You should bow to me.
(Peggy, 8 August 2010 02:12)

I hate to tell you Peeggy that you actually speak 2 languages. Every language that you mentioned here is Serbo - Croatian except for English.

Must have been a long lunch!

Just a note to Joe...

I sign my name once; the B92 programming adds it a second time.

The reason I sign my full, real name is because anonymous talk is often cheap and I want to those who take the time to read my remarks to know that I stand behind every word that I say.

I am indeed a journalist and I covered the Balkans from the front lines and across all of the former Yugoslav republics for more than a decade.

I welcome your comments, Joe, and consider them to be just as good a reflection of you as my words are of me.

I always add my e-mail address so that anyone who might wish to contact me to collaborate, or to debate things further, may do so without disrupting this comments section.

Best regards to all,

John Bosnitch

There are no strict bounderies between languages, ‘literary norms” and “dialects”, or “dialect continuums”. Scientifically the South Slavic dialects at least partially mutually understandable between the Alps and the Black Sea could be divided into three continuums: Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian and Bulgarian. (the latter being the most distinctive with its different grammar – with no inclination but with article.) The Slovenian, although covering the smallest area is more diversive. The difference between the different Slovenian dialects is grater than those between Serbian and Croatian. Yet it is considered to be one language. The Bulgarian dialect continuum was divided onto two languages – Bulgarian and Macedonian. The Serbo-Croatian into four (so far): Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin (in process of creation). As they say, the difference between a language and a dialect is the possession of a flag and am army!