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Friday, 06.08.2010.

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TV crew, Serbs targeted in Croatia

Incidents were reported as fans of a controversial Croat singer gathered on Thursday to celebrate the <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=08&dd=06&nav_id=68908" class="text-link" target= "_blank">anniversary of Operation Storm</a>.

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Zeka

pre 13 godina

And they wondered why Serbs were unhappy at the prospect of being governed by theses people (HDZ and Ustasha, not all Croats by any means)

sj

pre 13 godina

My many thanks to the Croats, please keep it up. What these knuckleheads don’t understand is that the EU is watching their every move. There are also many EU counties that are fed up to the back teeth with Croats. What kind of messages are being sent to Josipovic now through diplomatic channels? Ha, ha, ha. Not even Germany can protect you from this especially with their history of their special treatment of “sub humans” during WW2.
Please keep up the excellent work boys, ha, ha.

ida

pre 13 godina

This middle-aged man,
"Thompson", really stirs up the hate and gets the Croats riled. Croats are riled easily and go into a hate trance and thus are compelled to attack Serbs.

Bora77

pre 13 godina

Can't we all just get Along?
I have an idea. Lets ban all religions in South East Europe and see what happens? A thousand years of prosperity.. Or maybe it's in our genes to seek conflict?

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

Damir, give Dalmatia back to the Italians, they were there first. Do you see how ridiculous your bigoted statements are?
(karlsdad, 6 August 2010 17:38)

Damir is as "Croatian" as I am a Zulu shaman. It's another alias for P(ristina)R(idiculous)N(obody).

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

Somehow I agree with King Damir
(PRN, 6 August 2010 17:00)

No wonder, it was probably you anyway.
But we can do a business (don't be upset, just teasing, that's a payback):

1) You vacate Rigómezö. I can't say you "give it back" because Rigómezö or in Serbian "Kosovo" is not yours anyway and you can't give what is not yours.
2) We allow you back to Carpathian mountains in safety - that's where the majority of Albanians probably came from.

Yes, you lived for a while in Balkans - at least Ghegs longer than anyone. The problem: where they originate from is NOT Kosovo.

Don't say, I am not fair... At least, "Rigómezö" is a native Hungarian name for Kosovo i Metohija. That proves, it was more Hungarian in last 2000 years than Albanian because Hungarians do have own name for it but Albanians don't.

But maybe the idea is pretty stupid... Imagine few million Albanians somewhere around Brasov or Predeal... Or even worse, around Moldovita monastery. Just remembering 2004 pogroms and what was done with Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren.

I would feel very worried for that church...

http://tinyurl.com/24mqtg7

So better stay where you are and no pretending to be King Damirs and no pogroms please. Remember, you are guests in that "Rigómezö" so behave like nice guests should, not like thieves.

Skif

pre 13 godina

Damir, give Dalmatia back to the Italians, they were there first. Do you see how ridiculous your bigoted statements are?
(karlsdad, 6 August 2010 17:38)


Italians? They were there first?

you mean they there the first invaders in the balkans then yes i agree.

gajo

pre 13 godina

It's time for serbia to make ammends for the crimes and destruction during the war. Some people obviously can't let it go. There has to be some closure or incidents like this will spring up here and there at different times. It's time to pay up, it's gone too long. Instead of Tadic's words of apology which really aren't strong enough because there's always this underlying theme that every side did something wrong and that these were individual crimes committed, and it really wasn't the serbs as a whole that committed these crimes. That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land. You've got plenty of it and a lot of it historically belongs to Croatia, everything west of Novi Sad and Belgrade. Also, you can help with negotiating to get Bosnia back in to Croatia and maybe talk to Montenegro to help get Kotor back for us. I think this will make ammends and really it doesn't cost you anything because it all really belongs to Croatia anyway. We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.
(King Damir, 6 August 2010 14:19)


to bad you did nothing in the war you ran for 5 years and yet the croatians had 500,000 people against a mere 60,000 Serbs who were just fighting for their lands of krajina because that is Serbian land and not croatian just like the coast is italian and not croatian. if you really want to know croatia was just zagreb and little surroundings in history that's it and you got the worlds help in the 5th year and your storm was nothing in reality because the serb fighters left because of world pressure not YOUR croats.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

So Serbia should give back land for starting the wars. Let's say for arguments sake that Serbia did start the wars in the 90s. Why hasn't Croatia given land to Serbs for the Ustasha regime and its attrocities during WW2? Have they paid retribution to the families of the 800.000 killed in Jasenovac and other concentration camps? Why hasn't Kosovo albanians given up land for siding with the nazis during WW2? It pointless to have a normal and honest disscusion with croats, albanians and muslims. You are such hypocrites.
As long as there is a Serbia there will be jellous neighbours trying to destroy it. All Serbs are blamed for Milosevic but no croats and no albanians are guilty for what their leaders have done. I guess its more convenient that way. Blame all the Serbs for all the evils in the Balkans and perhaps you can get away with killing and stealing territory that belongs to the Serbian nation.

Peace to all my Serbian brothers and sisters.

Mike

pre 13 godina

Pro-Ustashe people are some of the stupidest people one could find. And considering all types of nationalistic groups in the Balkans, that's saying a lot.

A group of people that glorify a government that not only was Hitler's biggest ass kissers, but was a completely inept state propped up by both Germany and Italy *after* the latter two took what they wanted in Croatia, leaving the NDH to lick its wounded pride in Bosnia targeting all non-Croats; as if to pathetically win approval of Germany for its tenacity for killing: "Look Adolf, I can kill too! Please take me seriously! See? I made an Auschwitz just like you guys!"

That most of Dalmatia remained under Italian rule and enough sensible Croats joined the Partisans, today we actually have Croats that glorify such an embarrasment? A good deal of that blame has to lie with Tudjman and his HDZ revisionists for attempting to rehabilitate this as another "example" at achieving Croatian statehood. So stupid.

PRN

pre 13 godina

Somehow I agree with King Damir, especially when he says

"That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land [that never belong to them]."

Unoftunately or fortunately this says it ALL.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

Dragan,
you say that USA/UK should be ashamed that betrayed their old friends from WWII, that they have been endorsing the ustasha and the mudjahedins who allied with the NAZIs, that they were bullied by Germany to recognize Croatia, etc...

LET ME TELL YOU THIS.

USA/UK dont get bullied by none!
They *DESIGNED* from day 1, and they put Germany play their game.
THEY AND ONLY THEY.

The fact that a general sentiment that it was Germany's initiative to destroy ex-yu was also left in the air by USA/UK.

PS
needless to say, they know better than you and me *everything* about WWII.

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

But hey they're on the cusp of joining the EU, so they must be cultured and civilised right?
(Pete, 6 August 2010 15:39)

No more or less than other Europeans... There are Hitler-followers even in Russia, Serbia, Israel. Brain damage knows no borders - but like three countries I just mentioned Croatian politicians should be clear and openly call it "brain damage".

And if major of Zagreb celebrates in the middle of nazi crowd - than he has to be offered a fine and a resignation. What a loser...

Colin

pre 13 godina

No King Damir,

Nobody owes you anything.

However it is you who owe others alot. That is the problem with the whole unjust system of distribution which has sought to vilify all the actions of one party (the Serbs) and sought to cleanse the actions of all others (Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians).

This lie has gone on for too long.

You are a mean-spirited person to come here all self-righteous and peddle your lies here.

Prijatno...

Colin

Jovan

pre 13 godina

this "king damir" made my day! =)

if it was not about alleged "croatian land", this could also have been written by one of our dear k-albanian friends!

the level of absurdity is quite the same.

but what I find quite interesting, ...there are Croatians stoning the croation media...

so much for freedom of speech or a free press in that country!

those kids still have to learn a lot, if they want to get closer to "european values" =)

Pete

pre 13 godina

It's a pity that the tourists who flock to that blood stained little banana republic, are oblivious to what took place only a few miles over the mountains both recently, and in 1941. It would be a sobering experience for them. The hatchet happy maniacs celebrating their western sponsored 'victory'in their poisonous hercegovinian villages, would give them a wild time and probably show them a few wartime snaps of their achievements. But hey they're on the cusp of joining the EU, so they must be cultured and civilised right?

Dragan

pre 13 godina

'The crowd, said to have been 60,000 people strong, sang Ustasha songs, and Zagreb Mayor Milan Bandić was among those seen in Čavoglave on the Operation Storm anniversary.

Police in the nearby town of Zadar who last night showed up to "rescue" the HRT crew, said this morning that they did not see any persons wearing Ustasha uniforms or insignia, and for that reason did not detain anyone.'

Oh really, they sang Nazi Ustasha songs and police did not see one Nazi Ustasha uniform?? The police were probably whooping it up, partying with the crowd in fact. Let me remind everyone what these kinds of Nazi Ustashe 'get togethers' look like.
http://de-construct.net/?p=739

To the Americans and Brits on this site, let me remind you that THIS is the country you armed and supported, THIS is the country you still support today, THIS is the country that Germany has bullied you into recognizing and allowing them into the EU. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, for you have received your history lessons from CNN and expensive PR firms funded by Croats/Bosnian Muslims/albanians, you have ignored truth, and you have forgotten the Serbian victims and Serbian sacrifice to stop Nazism and extremism in Europe.

Bryan

pre 13 godina

King Damir,

First, you should be ashamed to write the non-sense that you have written. You yourself no that what you have written is completley fabricated and not true.

Anyway, and this is how Croatia expects to get into the EU. Good Luck! This behaviour will get them no where. However, this is what we have come to expect from Croatia. They have behaved in this manner ever since they aligned forces with nazi Germany and murdered millions of Serbs, Jews and Romas. They have been all but proud to have been aligned with Hitler and his nazi brigade. History repeats itself once again as they have ethnically cleansed over 300,000 Serbs from Krajna and Knin with again the help of another Super Power the USA. Instead of crawling into a hole and keeping quiet Croatians all over the world continue to embarass themselves. Being proud to be an Ustasha is a joke and shameful. Without the help of Nazi Germany and the USA this puppet nation wouldn't even exist. Serbs have only made one mistake and that is they are a proud nation and back down to no one. Maybe they should have followed in the footsteps of the Croations and Bosnian Muslims and became puppets of the US and the rest of the World. But be clear on this, times are slowly changing ones the USA gets what they want from the balkans they will leave and Serbia will once again rise from the ashes.

CG

pre 13 godina

No Damir,it is time for Serbia to stop selling Serbian companies to Croats and ban their products from entering our markets.
They have been killing and going after their Serb minority ever since without our idiotic elites punishing them after their defeats in 1918 and 1945,harassing Serb tourists etc.
Just imagine Israelis in 1955 buying Daimler cars,drinking German beer and usingh Cyclone B to desinfect their toilets...
Sometimes I really have to wonder what is going on with Serbs,do this people have any self esteem or pride...
Thanks god we Montenegrins seperated from you guys,I really despise your pacifist mentality

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.
(King Damir, 6 August 2010 14:19)

Yeah, after Huns and Avars called that city "Zágráb" you appeared few hundred years later and happily re-named it... gee.... didn't you realize, two "á" vowels make it sound better?

"Re-named" is a little understatement. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice. Why don't you give Zágráb back to whom it belongs, hmmmm....?

Dragan

pre 13 godina

King Damir,

Sadly you've had brains replaced from different skin suits, yet your dreams are wider than any of Walt Disney's...
This is fascist inspired EU candidate and NATO member is just a sad reminder of World War 2 at its heyday...

King Damir

pre 13 godina

It's time for serbia to make ammends for the crimes and destruction during the war. Some people obviously can't let it go. There has to be some closure or incidents like this will spring up here and there at different times. It's time to pay up, it's gone too long. Instead of Tadic's words of apology which really aren't strong enough because there's always this underlying theme that every side did something wrong and that these were individual crimes committed, and it really wasn't the serbs as a whole that committed these crimes. That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land. You've got plenty of it and a lot of it historically belongs to Croatia, everything west of Novi Sad and Belgrade. Also, you can help with negotiating to get Bosnia back in to Croatia and maybe talk to Montenegro to help get Kotor back for us. I think this will make ammends and really it doesn't cost you anything because it all really belongs to Croatia anyway. We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.

Bryan

pre 13 godina

King Damir,

First, you should be ashamed to write the non-sense that you have written. You yourself no that what you have written is completley fabricated and not true.

Anyway, and this is how Croatia expects to get into the EU. Good Luck! This behaviour will get them no where. However, this is what we have come to expect from Croatia. They have behaved in this manner ever since they aligned forces with nazi Germany and murdered millions of Serbs, Jews and Romas. They have been all but proud to have been aligned with Hitler and his nazi brigade. History repeats itself once again as they have ethnically cleansed over 300,000 Serbs from Krajna and Knin with again the help of another Super Power the USA. Instead of crawling into a hole and keeping quiet Croatians all over the world continue to embarass themselves. Being proud to be an Ustasha is a joke and shameful. Without the help of Nazi Germany and the USA this puppet nation wouldn't even exist. Serbs have only made one mistake and that is they are a proud nation and back down to no one. Maybe they should have followed in the footsteps of the Croations and Bosnian Muslims and became puppets of the US and the rest of the World. But be clear on this, times are slowly changing ones the USA gets what they want from the balkans they will leave and Serbia will once again rise from the ashes.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

'The crowd, said to have been 60,000 people strong, sang Ustasha songs, and Zagreb Mayor Milan Bandić was among those seen in Čavoglave on the Operation Storm anniversary.

Police in the nearby town of Zadar who last night showed up to "rescue" the HRT crew, said this morning that they did not see any persons wearing Ustasha uniforms or insignia, and for that reason did not detain anyone.'

Oh really, they sang Nazi Ustasha songs and police did not see one Nazi Ustasha uniform?? The police were probably whooping it up, partying with the crowd in fact. Let me remind everyone what these kinds of Nazi Ustashe 'get togethers' look like.
http://de-construct.net/?p=739

To the Americans and Brits on this site, let me remind you that THIS is the country you armed and supported, THIS is the country you still support today, THIS is the country that Germany has bullied you into recognizing and allowing them into the EU. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, for you have received your history lessons from CNN and expensive PR firms funded by Croats/Bosnian Muslims/albanians, you have ignored truth, and you have forgotten the Serbian victims and Serbian sacrifice to stop Nazism and extremism in Europe.

Pete

pre 13 godina

It's a pity that the tourists who flock to that blood stained little banana republic, are oblivious to what took place only a few miles over the mountains both recently, and in 1941. It would be a sobering experience for them. The hatchet happy maniacs celebrating their western sponsored 'victory'in their poisonous hercegovinian villages, would give them a wild time and probably show them a few wartime snaps of their achievements. But hey they're on the cusp of joining the EU, so they must be cultured and civilised right?

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.
(King Damir, 6 August 2010 14:19)

Yeah, after Huns and Avars called that city "Zágráb" you appeared few hundred years later and happily re-named it... gee.... didn't you realize, two "á" vowels make it sound better?

"Re-named" is a little understatement. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice. Why don't you give Zágráb back to whom it belongs, hmmmm....?

Mike

pre 13 godina

Pro-Ustashe people are some of the stupidest people one could find. And considering all types of nationalistic groups in the Balkans, that's saying a lot.

A group of people that glorify a government that not only was Hitler's biggest ass kissers, but was a completely inept state propped up by both Germany and Italy *after* the latter two took what they wanted in Croatia, leaving the NDH to lick its wounded pride in Bosnia targeting all non-Croats; as if to pathetically win approval of Germany for its tenacity for killing: "Look Adolf, I can kill too! Please take me seriously! See? I made an Auschwitz just like you guys!"

That most of Dalmatia remained under Italian rule and enough sensible Croats joined the Partisans, today we actually have Croats that glorify such an embarrasment? A good deal of that blame has to lie with Tudjman and his HDZ revisionists for attempting to rehabilitate this as another "example" at achieving Croatian statehood. So stupid.

Colin

pre 13 godina

No King Damir,

Nobody owes you anything.

However it is you who owe others alot. That is the problem with the whole unjust system of distribution which has sought to vilify all the actions of one party (the Serbs) and sought to cleanse the actions of all others (Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians).

This lie has gone on for too long.

You are a mean-spirited person to come here all self-righteous and peddle your lies here.

Prijatno...

Colin

Dragan

pre 13 godina

King Damir,

Sadly you've had brains replaced from different skin suits, yet your dreams are wider than any of Walt Disney's...
This is fascist inspired EU candidate and NATO member is just a sad reminder of World War 2 at its heyday...

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

But hey they're on the cusp of joining the EU, so they must be cultured and civilised right?
(Pete, 6 August 2010 15:39)

No more or less than other Europeans... There are Hitler-followers even in Russia, Serbia, Israel. Brain damage knows no borders - but like three countries I just mentioned Croatian politicians should be clear and openly call it "brain damage".

And if major of Zagreb celebrates in the middle of nazi crowd - than he has to be offered a fine and a resignation. What a loser...

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

So Serbia should give back land for starting the wars. Let's say for arguments sake that Serbia did start the wars in the 90s. Why hasn't Croatia given land to Serbs for the Ustasha regime and its attrocities during WW2? Have they paid retribution to the families of the 800.000 killed in Jasenovac and other concentration camps? Why hasn't Kosovo albanians given up land for siding with the nazis during WW2? It pointless to have a normal and honest disscusion with croats, albanians and muslims. You are such hypocrites.
As long as there is a Serbia there will be jellous neighbours trying to destroy it. All Serbs are blamed for Milosevic but no croats and no albanians are guilty for what their leaders have done. I guess its more convenient that way. Blame all the Serbs for all the evils in the Balkans and perhaps you can get away with killing and stealing territory that belongs to the Serbian nation.

Peace to all my Serbian brothers and sisters.

Jovan

pre 13 godina

this "king damir" made my day! =)

if it was not about alleged "croatian land", this could also have been written by one of our dear k-albanian friends!

the level of absurdity is quite the same.

but what I find quite interesting, ...there are Croatians stoning the croation media...

so much for freedom of speech or a free press in that country!

those kids still have to learn a lot, if they want to get closer to "european values" =)

CG

pre 13 godina

No Damir,it is time for Serbia to stop selling Serbian companies to Croats and ban their products from entering our markets.
They have been killing and going after their Serb minority ever since without our idiotic elites punishing them after their defeats in 1918 and 1945,harassing Serb tourists etc.
Just imagine Israelis in 1955 buying Daimler cars,drinking German beer and usingh Cyclone B to desinfect their toilets...
Sometimes I really have to wonder what is going on with Serbs,do this people have any self esteem or pride...
Thanks god we Montenegrins seperated from you guys,I really despise your pacifist mentality

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

Damir, give Dalmatia back to the Italians, they were there first. Do you see how ridiculous your bigoted statements are?
(karlsdad, 6 August 2010 17:38)

Damir is as "Croatian" as I am a Zulu shaman. It's another alias for P(ristina)R(idiculous)N(obody).

King Damir

pre 13 godina

It's time for serbia to make ammends for the crimes and destruction during the war. Some people obviously can't let it go. There has to be some closure or incidents like this will spring up here and there at different times. It's time to pay up, it's gone too long. Instead of Tadic's words of apology which really aren't strong enough because there's always this underlying theme that every side did something wrong and that these were individual crimes committed, and it really wasn't the serbs as a whole that committed these crimes. That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land. You've got plenty of it and a lot of it historically belongs to Croatia, everything west of Novi Sad and Belgrade. Also, you can help with negotiating to get Bosnia back in to Croatia and maybe talk to Montenegro to help get Kotor back for us. I think this will make ammends and really it doesn't cost you anything because it all really belongs to Croatia anyway. We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.

gajo

pre 13 godina

It's time for serbia to make ammends for the crimes and destruction during the war. Some people obviously can't let it go. There has to be some closure or incidents like this will spring up here and there at different times. It's time to pay up, it's gone too long. Instead of Tadic's words of apology which really aren't strong enough because there's always this underlying theme that every side did something wrong and that these were individual crimes committed, and it really wasn't the serbs as a whole that committed these crimes. That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land. You've got plenty of it and a lot of it historically belongs to Croatia, everything west of Novi Sad and Belgrade. Also, you can help with negotiating to get Bosnia back in to Croatia and maybe talk to Montenegro to help get Kotor back for us. I think this will make ammends and really it doesn't cost you anything because it all really belongs to Croatia anyway. We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.
(King Damir, 6 August 2010 14:19)


to bad you did nothing in the war you ran for 5 years and yet the croatians had 500,000 people against a mere 60,000 Serbs who were just fighting for their lands of krajina because that is Serbian land and not croatian just like the coast is italian and not croatian. if you really want to know croatia was just zagreb and little surroundings in history that's it and you got the worlds help in the 5th year and your storm was nothing in reality because the serb fighters left because of world pressure not YOUR croats.

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

Somehow I agree with King Damir
(PRN, 6 August 2010 17:00)

No wonder, it was probably you anyway.
But we can do a business (don't be upset, just teasing, that's a payback):

1) You vacate Rigómezö. I can't say you "give it back" because Rigómezö or in Serbian "Kosovo" is not yours anyway and you can't give what is not yours.
2) We allow you back to Carpathian mountains in safety - that's where the majority of Albanians probably came from.

Yes, you lived for a while in Balkans - at least Ghegs longer than anyone. The problem: where they originate from is NOT Kosovo.

Don't say, I am not fair... At least, "Rigómezö" is a native Hungarian name for Kosovo i Metohija. That proves, it was more Hungarian in last 2000 years than Albanian because Hungarians do have own name for it but Albanians don't.

But maybe the idea is pretty stupid... Imagine few million Albanians somewhere around Brasov or Predeal... Or even worse, around Moldovita monastery. Just remembering 2004 pogroms and what was done with Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren.

I would feel very worried for that church...

http://tinyurl.com/24mqtg7

So better stay where you are and no pretending to be King Damirs and no pogroms please. Remember, you are guests in that "Rigómezö" so behave like nice guests should, not like thieves.

Skif

pre 13 godina

Damir, give Dalmatia back to the Italians, they were there first. Do you see how ridiculous your bigoted statements are?
(karlsdad, 6 August 2010 17:38)


Italians? They were there first?

you mean they there the first invaders in the balkans then yes i agree.

pyrros

pre 13 godina

Dragan,
you say that USA/UK should be ashamed that betrayed their old friends from WWII, that they have been endorsing the ustasha and the mudjahedins who allied with the NAZIs, that they were bullied by Germany to recognize Croatia, etc...

LET ME TELL YOU THIS.

USA/UK dont get bullied by none!
They *DESIGNED* from day 1, and they put Germany play their game.
THEY AND ONLY THEY.

The fact that a general sentiment that it was Germany's initiative to destroy ex-yu was also left in the air by USA/UK.

PS
needless to say, they know better than you and me *everything* about WWII.

PRN

pre 13 godina

Somehow I agree with King Damir, especially when he says

"That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land [that never belong to them]."

Unoftunately or fortunately this says it ALL.

ida

pre 13 godina

This middle-aged man,
"Thompson", really stirs up the hate and gets the Croats riled. Croats are riled easily and go into a hate trance and thus are compelled to attack Serbs.

sj

pre 13 godina

My many thanks to the Croats, please keep it up. What these knuckleheads don’t understand is that the EU is watching their every move. There are also many EU counties that are fed up to the back teeth with Croats. What kind of messages are being sent to Josipovic now through diplomatic channels? Ha, ha, ha. Not even Germany can protect you from this especially with their history of their special treatment of “sub humans” during WW2.
Please keep up the excellent work boys, ha, ha.

Zeka

pre 13 godina

And they wondered why Serbs were unhappy at the prospect of being governed by theses people (HDZ and Ustasha, not all Croats by any means)

Bora77

pre 13 godina

Can't we all just get Along?
I have an idea. Lets ban all religions in South East Europe and see what happens? A thousand years of prosperity.. Or maybe it's in our genes to seek conflict?

King Damir

pre 13 godina

It's time for serbia to make ammends for the crimes and destruction during the war. Some people obviously can't let it go. There has to be some closure or incidents like this will spring up here and there at different times. It's time to pay up, it's gone too long. Instead of Tadic's words of apology which really aren't strong enough because there's always this underlying theme that every side did something wrong and that these were individual crimes committed, and it really wasn't the serbs as a whole that committed these crimes. That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land. You've got plenty of it and a lot of it historically belongs to Croatia, everything west of Novi Sad and Belgrade. Also, you can help with negotiating to get Bosnia back in to Croatia and maybe talk to Montenegro to help get Kotor back for us. I think this will make ammends and really it doesn't cost you anything because it all really belongs to Croatia anyway. We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.

PRN

pre 13 godina

Somehow I agree with King Damir, especially when he says

"That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land [that never belong to them]."

Unoftunately or fortunately this says it ALL.

Colin

pre 13 godina

No King Damir,

Nobody owes you anything.

However it is you who owe others alot. That is the problem with the whole unjust system of distribution which has sought to vilify all the actions of one party (the Serbs) and sought to cleanse the actions of all others (Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians).

This lie has gone on for too long.

You are a mean-spirited person to come here all self-righteous and peddle your lies here.

Prijatno...

Colin

CG

pre 13 godina

No Damir,it is time for Serbia to stop selling Serbian companies to Croats and ban their products from entering our markets.
They have been killing and going after their Serb minority ever since without our idiotic elites punishing them after their defeats in 1918 and 1945,harassing Serb tourists etc.
Just imagine Israelis in 1955 buying Daimler cars,drinking German beer and usingh Cyclone B to desinfect their toilets...
Sometimes I really have to wonder what is going on with Serbs,do this people have any self esteem or pride...
Thanks god we Montenegrins seperated from you guys,I really despise your pacifist mentality

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.
(King Damir, 6 August 2010 14:19)

Yeah, after Huns and Avars called that city "Zágráb" you appeared few hundred years later and happily re-named it... gee.... didn't you realize, two "á" vowels make it sound better?

"Re-named" is a little understatement. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice. Why don't you give Zágráb back to whom it belongs, hmmmm....?

Skif

pre 13 godina

Damir, give Dalmatia back to the Italians, they were there first. Do you see how ridiculous your bigoted statements are?
(karlsdad, 6 August 2010 17:38)


Italians? They were there first?

you mean they there the first invaders in the balkans then yes i agree.

Bryan

pre 13 godina

King Damir,

First, you should be ashamed to write the non-sense that you have written. You yourself no that what you have written is completley fabricated and not true.

Anyway, and this is how Croatia expects to get into the EU. Good Luck! This behaviour will get them no where. However, this is what we have come to expect from Croatia. They have behaved in this manner ever since they aligned forces with nazi Germany and murdered millions of Serbs, Jews and Romas. They have been all but proud to have been aligned with Hitler and his nazi brigade. History repeats itself once again as they have ethnically cleansed over 300,000 Serbs from Krajna and Knin with again the help of another Super Power the USA. Instead of crawling into a hole and keeping quiet Croatians all over the world continue to embarass themselves. Being proud to be an Ustasha is a joke and shameful. Without the help of Nazi Germany and the USA this puppet nation wouldn't even exist. Serbs have only made one mistake and that is they are a proud nation and back down to no one. Maybe they should have followed in the footsteps of the Croations and Bosnian Muslims and became puppets of the US and the rest of the World. But be clear on this, times are slowly changing ones the USA gets what they want from the balkans they will leave and Serbia will once again rise from the ashes.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

'The crowd, said to have been 60,000 people strong, sang Ustasha songs, and Zagreb Mayor Milan Bandić was among those seen in Čavoglave on the Operation Storm anniversary.

Police in the nearby town of Zadar who last night showed up to "rescue" the HRT crew, said this morning that they did not see any persons wearing Ustasha uniforms or insignia, and for that reason did not detain anyone.'

Oh really, they sang Nazi Ustasha songs and police did not see one Nazi Ustasha uniform?? The police were probably whooping it up, partying with the crowd in fact. Let me remind everyone what these kinds of Nazi Ustashe 'get togethers' look like.
http://de-construct.net/?p=739

To the Americans and Brits on this site, let me remind you that THIS is the country you armed and supported, THIS is the country you still support today, THIS is the country that Germany has bullied you into recognizing and allowing them into the EU. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, for you have received your history lessons from CNN and expensive PR firms funded by Croats/Bosnian Muslims/albanians, you have ignored truth, and you have forgotten the Serbian victims and Serbian sacrifice to stop Nazism and extremism in Europe.

gajo

pre 13 godina

It's time for serbia to make ammends for the crimes and destruction during the war. Some people obviously can't let it go. There has to be some closure or incidents like this will spring up here and there at different times. It's time to pay up, it's gone too long. Instead of Tadic's words of apology which really aren't strong enough because there's always this underlying theme that every side did something wrong and that these were individual crimes committed, and it really wasn't the serbs as a whole that committed these crimes. That really waters down the truth. Just admit it was all the serb people who followed milosevic and serbia as a country is completely responsible for starting the wars and commiting the first atrocities that set the rules of the game. If serbia can't pay back with cash, then give land. You've got plenty of it and a lot of it historically belongs to Croatia, everything west of Novi Sad and Belgrade. Also, you can help with negotiating to get Bosnia back in to Croatia and maybe talk to Montenegro to help get Kotor back for us. I think this will make ammends and really it doesn't cost you anything because it all really belongs to Croatia anyway. We were there first. You just borrowed it for a little while. Actually, you stole it. I was trying to be nice.
(King Damir, 6 August 2010 14:19)


to bad you did nothing in the war you ran for 5 years and yet the croatians had 500,000 people against a mere 60,000 Serbs who were just fighting for their lands of krajina because that is Serbian land and not croatian just like the coast is italian and not croatian. if you really want to know croatia was just zagreb and little surroundings in history that's it and you got the worlds help in the 5th year and your storm was nothing in reality because the serb fighters left because of world pressure not YOUR croats.

Bora77

pre 13 godina

Can't we all just get Along?
I have an idea. Lets ban all religions in South East Europe and see what happens? A thousand years of prosperity.. Or maybe it's in our genes to seek conflict?

Pete

pre 13 godina

It's a pity that the tourists who flock to that blood stained little banana republic, are oblivious to what took place only a few miles over the mountains both recently, and in 1941. It would be a sobering experience for them. The hatchet happy maniacs celebrating their western sponsored 'victory'in their poisonous hercegovinian villages, would give them a wild time and probably show them a few wartime snaps of their achievements. But hey they're on the cusp of joining the EU, so they must be cultured and civilised right?

pyrros

pre 13 godina

Dragan,
you say that USA/UK should be ashamed that betrayed their old friends from WWII, that they have been endorsing the ustasha and the mudjahedins who allied with the NAZIs, that they were bullied by Germany to recognize Croatia, etc...

LET ME TELL YOU THIS.

USA/UK dont get bullied by none!
They *DESIGNED* from day 1, and they put Germany play their game.
THEY AND ONLY THEY.

The fact that a general sentiment that it was Germany's initiative to destroy ex-yu was also left in the air by USA/UK.

PS
needless to say, they know better than you and me *everything* about WWII.

Mikael C

pre 13 godina

So Serbia should give back land for starting the wars. Let's say for arguments sake that Serbia did start the wars in the 90s. Why hasn't Croatia given land to Serbs for the Ustasha regime and its attrocities during WW2? Have they paid retribution to the families of the 800.000 killed in Jasenovac and other concentration camps? Why hasn't Kosovo albanians given up land for siding with the nazis during WW2? It pointless to have a normal and honest disscusion with croats, albanians and muslims. You are such hypocrites.
As long as there is a Serbia there will be jellous neighbours trying to destroy it. All Serbs are blamed for Milosevic but no croats and no albanians are guilty for what their leaders have done. I guess its more convenient that way. Blame all the Serbs for all the evils in the Balkans and perhaps you can get away with killing and stealing territory that belongs to the Serbian nation.

Peace to all my Serbian brothers and sisters.

Dragan

pre 13 godina

King Damir,

Sadly you've had brains replaced from different skin suits, yet your dreams are wider than any of Walt Disney's...
This is fascist inspired EU candidate and NATO member is just a sad reminder of World War 2 at its heyday...

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

Somehow I agree with King Damir
(PRN, 6 August 2010 17:00)

No wonder, it was probably you anyway.
But we can do a business (don't be upset, just teasing, that's a payback):

1) You vacate Rigómezö. I can't say you "give it back" because Rigómezö or in Serbian "Kosovo" is not yours anyway and you can't give what is not yours.
2) We allow you back to Carpathian mountains in safety - that's where the majority of Albanians probably came from.

Yes, you lived for a while in Balkans - at least Ghegs longer than anyone. The problem: where they originate from is NOT Kosovo.

Don't say, I am not fair... At least, "Rigómezö" is a native Hungarian name for Kosovo i Metohija. That proves, it was more Hungarian in last 2000 years than Albanian because Hungarians do have own name for it but Albanians don't.

But maybe the idea is pretty stupid... Imagine few million Albanians somewhere around Brasov or Predeal... Or even worse, around Moldovita monastery. Just remembering 2004 pogroms and what was done with Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren.

I would feel very worried for that church...

http://tinyurl.com/24mqtg7

So better stay where you are and no pretending to be King Damirs and no pogroms please. Remember, you are guests in that "Rigómezö" so behave like nice guests should, not like thieves.

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

Damir, give Dalmatia back to the Italians, they were there first. Do you see how ridiculous your bigoted statements are?
(karlsdad, 6 August 2010 17:38)

Damir is as "Croatian" as I am a Zulu shaman. It's another alias for P(ristina)R(idiculous)N(obody).

USB 3.0 man

pre 13 godina

But hey they're on the cusp of joining the EU, so they must be cultured and civilised right?
(Pete, 6 August 2010 15:39)

No more or less than other Europeans... There are Hitler-followers even in Russia, Serbia, Israel. Brain damage knows no borders - but like three countries I just mentioned Croatian politicians should be clear and openly call it "brain damage".

And if major of Zagreb celebrates in the middle of nazi crowd - than he has to be offered a fine and a resignation. What a loser...

Jovan

pre 13 godina

this "king damir" made my day! =)

if it was not about alleged "croatian land", this could also have been written by one of our dear k-albanian friends!

the level of absurdity is quite the same.

but what I find quite interesting, ...there are Croatians stoning the croation media...

so much for freedom of speech or a free press in that country!

those kids still have to learn a lot, if they want to get closer to "european values" =)

Mike

pre 13 godina

Pro-Ustashe people are some of the stupidest people one could find. And considering all types of nationalistic groups in the Balkans, that's saying a lot.

A group of people that glorify a government that not only was Hitler's biggest ass kissers, but was a completely inept state propped up by both Germany and Italy *after* the latter two took what they wanted in Croatia, leaving the NDH to lick its wounded pride in Bosnia targeting all non-Croats; as if to pathetically win approval of Germany for its tenacity for killing: "Look Adolf, I can kill too! Please take me seriously! See? I made an Auschwitz just like you guys!"

That most of Dalmatia remained under Italian rule and enough sensible Croats joined the Partisans, today we actually have Croats that glorify such an embarrasment? A good deal of that blame has to lie with Tudjman and his HDZ revisionists for attempting to rehabilitate this as another "example" at achieving Croatian statehood. So stupid.

sj

pre 13 godina

My many thanks to the Croats, please keep it up. What these knuckleheads don’t understand is that the EU is watching their every move. There are also many EU counties that are fed up to the back teeth with Croats. What kind of messages are being sent to Josipovic now through diplomatic channels? Ha, ha, ha. Not even Germany can protect you from this especially with their history of their special treatment of “sub humans” during WW2.
Please keep up the excellent work boys, ha, ha.

ida

pre 13 godina

This middle-aged man,
"Thompson", really stirs up the hate and gets the Croats riled. Croats are riled easily and go into a hate trance and thus are compelled to attack Serbs.

Zeka

pre 13 godina

And they wondered why Serbs were unhappy at the prospect of being governed by theses people (HDZ and Ustasha, not all Croats by any means)